[00:03] <ScottK> Probably some local issue.
[00:05] <ScottK> Took the plunge.  -runtime uploaded.
[00:18] <ScottK> Meh.  Someone else's turn.
[00:18] <ScottK> Oh.  I know.
[00:22]  * ScottK tries again.
[00:30] <apachelogger> ScottK: I would hope so, I did not check
[00:34]  * ScottK gives up on -runtime for the night.
[00:34] <ScottK> Someone elses turn.
[00:35] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'll approve the FFe if you'll approve it.
[00:35] <ScottK> you'll upload it
[00:45]  * ScottK goes and reviews kgamma instead.
[01:01] <BarkingFish> right guys, I'm off. Bed beckons, and I'm answering the call!
[01:01] <BarkingFish> See ya
[01:08] <apachelogger> ScottK: I'll look at it tomorrow then
[01:08] <apachelogger> if I do not get interrupted by research again
[01:40] <ScottK> debfx: OK.  You win.  Please fix kde-runtime.
[01:41] <ScottK> (separate sources if you prefer, up to you as I give)
[01:42] <ScottK> btw, now doing kgamma.  Got distracted by ballet related sewing.
[03:28] <ScottK> Now kgeography.
[03:31] <ScottK> Now khangman.
[03:33] <valorie> you are my hero, ScottK
[03:34]  * valorie awards ScottK some voodoo donuts
[03:34] <ScottK> For the 4.7.1 uploading or the sewing?
[03:34] <valorie> both!
[03:34] <valorie> it's awesome when daddies do sewing
[03:34] <ScottK> :-)
[03:34] <valorie> my sewing machine needs some love
[03:34] <ScottK> It kind of blew  my daughter away that I was capable of it.
[03:35] <valorie> the navy teaches people to be capable!
[03:35] <valorie> my neighbor is home on leave
[03:35] <valorie> thus the voodoo donuts
[03:35] <valorie> boys brought a box of fresh, up from Portland
[03:36] <ScottK> First day at Officer Candidate School uniforms were issued with sewing kits and we were told to have them properly hemmed by morning.
[03:36] <ScottK> Nice.
[03:36] <ScottK> Now on kig
[03:39] <ScottK> kiten
[03:42] <ScottK> kmplot
[03:46] <ScottK> kolourpaint
[03:48] <ScottK> kruler
[03:52] <ScottK> ktouch
[03:55] <ScottK> rocs
[03:58] <ScottK> step
[04:08] <ScottK> kwordquiz
[04:13] <ScottK> There's a chance that (except for fixing -runtime, that's it.
[04:20] <ScottK> No, kwordquiz was already done, just Quintasan didn't tag it in bzr.
[07:04] <JabberwockyA19> Is it normal that oneiric is searching for i386 and amd64 apt lists? I am using amd64.
[07:08] <ScottK> JabberwockyA19: Yes.
[07:08] <ScottK> That's multi-arch.  You can now run i386 binaries on amd64.
[07:08] <ScottK> It's not handled very well in the package management U/I.
[07:08] <JabberwockyA19> ok I thought as much
[07:09] <JabberwockyA19> extra support for ia32libs
[07:09] <ScottK> The goal is to make it die.
[07:10] <JabberwockyA19> jockey-kde breaks because I don't have i386 lists in my local mirror (raise FetchFailedException(e))
[07:10] <ScottK> That's worth a bug.
[07:11] <JabberwockyA19> I see some bugs already reported against jockey-gtk
[07:13] <ScottK> Just mentioning it affects jockey-kde too might be enough.
[07:14] <ScottK> But it's 3AM here, and so I think I'll say good night.
[07:14] <ScottK> Good night.
[07:43] <JabberwockyA19> night
[09:38] <bambee> morning
[10:44]  * afiestas is starting to think that (k)ubuntu has a magic button for good intel performance
[10:45] <afiestas> or maybe is just because I'm usually running self-compiled master we'll see in a few minuts
[11:14] <apachelogger> oh
[11:14] <apachelogger> right
[11:14] <apachelogger> profiling
[11:14]  * apachelogger adds spec idea
[12:13] <apachelogger> afiestas: do we have the latest and greatest bluedevil yet?
[12:15] <afiestas> apachelogger: nope, afaik we were too late to put 1.2 so kubuntu will be shipping with 1.1
[12:15] <apachelogger> :O
[12:15] <apachelogger> this is an outrage
[12:15]  * apachelogger waves fist and all that
[12:16] <apachelogger> afiestas: 1.2 isn't released yet?
[12:16] <afiestas> apachelogger: it is
[12:16] <apachelogger> ah
[12:16] <apachelogger> then I really don't get it
[12:16] <afiestas> I haven't blog about it, but the tarbal is uploaded and tag is pushed
[12:16] <apachelogger> surely there is plenty of reasons why a feature freeze exception for 1.2 would be desirable, no?
[12:16] <afiestas> let me check 
[12:17] <apachelogger> ScottK: release team opinion plz ^
[12:17] <afiestas> Version: 1.1.1-0ubuntu1 
[12:17] <ScottK> apachelogger: We've had pretty good luck with bluedevil updates.  I'd be willing to consider it if it was packaged and someone tested it.
[12:18] <apachelogger> that implies I can find my bluetooh stick thing
[12:18] <apachelogger> :P
[12:18] <apachelogger> ScottK: qtwebkit-source will be in queue soonishy
[12:18] <apachelogger> i.e. in 1MiB :P
[12:18] <ScottK> Cool.
[12:19] <afiestas> ScottK: I will be more than glad to test it all
[12:19] <apachelogger> also I converted the tar to .xz
[12:19] <apachelogger> so I shall hope launchpad accepts .xz tars these days
[12:19] <afiestas> I'm using 1.2 now (with Kubuntu 11.10) so far so good
[12:19] <apachelogger> that knocked almost 10 MiB of the tarball size :D
[12:19] <apachelogger> <3 xz
[12:20] <apachelogger>   Uploading qtwebkit-source_2.2~2011week34-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[12:20] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[12:20] <apachelogger> ScottK: ^
[12:20] <ScottK> Cool.
[12:20]  * apachelogger hates it when there is no flipping watch file
[12:38]  * bulldog98 has a working main pc again
[12:38] <apachelogger> afiestas: where did you upload bluedevil?
[12:38] <apachelogger> cant find it on ftpmaster
[13:17]  * bulldog98 now has 8G of RAM -> I can build kdepim in tmpfs :)
[14:17] <afiestas> weird weird weird, Xorg crashes when enabling composite in KWin master
[14:25] <bulldog98> yofel_: digikam has a new release
[14:29] <apachelogger> afiestas: where to find the bluedevil 1.2 tar?
[14:30] <afiestas> downloads.kde.org.. let me check for the full url
[14:31] <afiestas> weird, it isn't there :s
[14:31] <afiestas> iirc sysadmins told me that it was moved, let me check...
[14:32] <apachelogger> they tend to move things into wrong dirs ^^
[14:32] <afiestas> fuck, seems that I forgot to make the final release somehow :s
[14:32] <afiestas> wtf...
[14:32] <apachelogger> :P
[14:33] <afiestas> apachelogger: can you use 1.2rc2? 1.2 final will be the same tarbal/tag
[14:41] <apachelogger> afiestas: no new libbluedevil, right?
[14:41] <afiestas> apachelogger: nope
[14:41] <apachelogger> perfecto
[14:50] <apachelogger> we shoudl transit our compression from lzma to x
[14:50] <apachelogger> z
[14:50] <apachelogger> lintian gets all cocky about the data.tar.lzma
[14:54] <debfx> yeah but not this cycle
[14:57]  * bulldog98 wishes to have debdelta and pdiffs, too
[15:00] <bulldog98> whom to poke about that
[15:40] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: rekonq doesn’t freeze if opening a build log
[16:19] <apachelogger> huh
[16:19] <apachelogger> afiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluedevil
[16:19] <apachelogger> you might want to look at this at some point
[16:20] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna, afiestas: bluedevil is now tracked by the kubuntu-bugs team
[16:28]  * ScottK stabs at -runtime again.
[17:07] <ScottK> Let the record show that debfx was right.  Separate source is needed.
[17:07] <ScottK> I think I got that managed from the same source package, so it's only annoying right now and not every time the package has to be updated.
[17:25] <apachelogger> afiestas: ping
[17:27] <afiestas> apachelogger: pong
[17:27] <apachelogger> afiestas: so, I installed bluedevil, plugged in a bluetooth usb adapter thing and bluedevil reports there is none :(
[17:28] <afiestas> apachelogger: hcitool scan?
[17:28] <apachelogger> syslog says the device is detected and initialized and all that
[17:28] <apachelogger> >>> hcitool scan
[17:28] <apachelogger> Device is not available: No such device
[17:28] <afiestas> qdbus --system org.bluez ?
[17:28] <apachelogger> >>> qdbus --system org.bluez
[17:28] <apachelogger> Service 'org.bluez' does not exist.
[17:28] <apachelogger> no bluez for me :(
[17:28] <afiestas> /etc/init.d/bluetooth start ?
[17:29] <apachelogger> eff
[17:29] <apachelogger> now it worx
[17:29] <apachelogger> so I guess the question is why the rubbish bluez of mine did not start automatically?
[17:29] <afiestas> apachelogger: iirc that's something that only happens in ubuntu but I may be wrong
[17:29] <afiestas> well ubuntu or debian based dunno
[17:30]  * apachelogger waves fist at ubuntu
[17:30] <afiestas> but I have received many reports with the same issue, all of them by Kubuntu users 
[17:30] <apachelogger> afiestas: maybe it does not start bluez when no adapter was detected at startup?
[17:30] <afiestas> I did some launchpad-fu to find a bug report and I did iirc but I don't remember the details
[17:30] <apachelogger> which I do consider a feature... though the bug is not starting it once a bluetooh device is detected
[17:30] <apachelogger> which I reckon is entirely possible using a udev config
[17:31] <afiestas> apachelogger: then that udev rule is missing
[17:31] <apachelogger> probably
[17:31] <apachelogger> though I am gussing blindly
[17:31] <apachelogger> so it might not be the case altogether
[17:33] <apachelogger> when I try to scan, the adaptor dies
[17:34] <afiestas> apachelogger: with hcitool ?
[17:34] <apachelogger> with bluedevilol
[17:35] <apachelogger> G
[17:35] <apachelogger> also when pairing
[17:35] <apachelogger> it falls over like a dead rabbit
[17:35] <apachelogger> ah
[17:35] <apachelogger> dead parrot :D
[17:36] <afiestas> apachelogger: Any good tv show to watch?
[17:36] <apachelogger> depends on what you have in mind
[17:36] <apachelogger> the new torchwood is rubbish
[17:37] <apachelogger> 'suits' seems rather good...
[17:37] <afiestas> apachelogger: just say a few
[17:37] <apachelogger> or I am biased due to hawt actors, dunno
[17:37] <apachelogger> game of thrones markey recommends very much
[17:37] <afiestas> already saw suits
[17:37] <apachelogger> then there is a new season of true blood coming along
[17:37] <apachelogger> same goes for futurama
[17:38] <apachelogger> shamelss is very recommendable (first season anyway)
[17:38] <afiestas> saw and saw
[17:38] <apachelogger> the UK version, not the US one!!!!!
[17:38] <afiestas> shameless ?
[17:38] <apachelogger> google it
[17:38] <apachelogger> story about a drunken father and his kids, living in the greater manchester area
[17:39] <afiestas> any more?
[17:39] <apachelogger> well, since I was talking about dead parrots
[17:39] <apachelogger> ALL OF MONTY PYTHON@!
[17:39] <apachelogger> also fawlty towers
[17:40] <apachelogger> I think this just about all I ever watched
[17:40]  * apachelogger aint much of an entertainment program person
[17:40]  * apachelogger checks his trash for other material
[17:40]  * afiestas just got lazy and decide to pass the rest of the day watching stuff
[17:40] <apachelogger> dexter
[17:40] <apachelogger> ohohohoh
[17:40] <apachelogger> ALL OF DOCTOR WHO!!$!
[17:41] <apachelogger> that will keep you busy for the next 5 years :P
[17:41] <afiestas> saw and saw
[17:41] <apachelogger> I MEAN ALLLLL
[17:41] <afiestas> SAW !
[17:41] <apachelogger> dude, like when did you ever do work :P
[17:41] <apachelogger> finding good versions of the really old series alone takes forever
[17:41] <afiestas> nah kidding :p 
[17:41]  * apachelogger refuses to watch the fake-color-versions
[17:42] <apachelogger> they make me go ewww
[17:42] <apachelogger> so
[17:42] <apachelogger> ...
[17:42] <apachelogger> glee
[17:42] <apachelogger> hellsing
[17:42] <apachelogger> hercule poirot \o/
[17:42] <apachelogger> little britain
[17:42] <apachelogger> kathy griffin
[17:42] <apachelogger> skins
[17:42] <apachelogger> TBBT
[17:42] <apachelogger> ah
[17:42] <apachelogger> epic
[17:42] <apachelogger> the golden girls :D
[17:43] <apachelogger> it crowd
[17:43] <apachelogger> campire diaries
[17:43] <apachelogger> the wire
[17:43] <afiestas> apachelogger: skins uk, right?
[17:43] <apachelogger> yus
[17:43] <ScottK> Hogan's Heroes
[17:43] <apachelogger> whenver there is UK vs. US, one shall click the UK link as the US one will likely be a bad rip off
[17:43] <apachelogger> although there have been good ones too 
[17:43] <apachelogger> like queer as folk
[17:44] <ScottK> The Young Ones (UK)
[17:44] <apachelogger> on a related note... RTD came up with queer as folk
[17:44] <apachelogger> oh ohoh
[17:44] <apachelogger> weeds
[17:45] <apachelogger> only yesterday a friend told me they apparently still produce that show
[17:45]  * apachelogger personally got bored after the first 1.5 seasons
[17:45]  * afiestas likes weeds and weed
[17:46] <apachelogger> afiestas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686480/
[17:46] <apachelogger> was running hcitool scan and kded went kaput
[17:47] <apachelogger> ehm
[17:47] <apachelogger> so
[17:47] <apachelogger> a) my device is broken
[17:47] <apachelogger> b) there is a kernel bug
[17:47] <apachelogger> c) something is wrong with my bluedevil pkg
[17:47] <apachelogger> oh and d) something is wrong with our bluez stack
[17:48] <apachelogger> at some point bluetoohd goes "HCI dev 0 down"
[17:50] <apachelogger> well
[17:50] <apachelogger> it does not work for me
[17:50] <apachelogger> amd64 available in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental
[17:50] <apachelogger> i386 should be soonish
[17:55] <afiestas> apachelogger: well I'm developing bluedevil in kubuntu now.. os bluez kinda works at least for me
[19:30] <apachelogger> afiestas: must be something on my system then
[19:30] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: qapt has no models?
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> nope
[19:32] <apachelogger> why nut :(
[19:32] <apachelogger> also qapt Package needs to grow properties
[19:33] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: so to get a list of packages I'd create a backend, init it and then call availablePackages?
[19:33] <JontheEchidna> yus
[19:35] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: are you looking at doing QML stuff? There is a package model in libmuonprivate
[19:35] <apachelogger> bleh
[19:35] <apachelogger> that should totally move to libqapt IMHO
[19:35]  * apachelogger should be able to do it with a list of packages for now
[19:35] <apachelogger> (or so I think)
[19:38] <apachelogger> oh, right, no properties and no q_invokables
[19:38] <apachelogger> that makes matters more complicated :S
[19:39] <JontheEchidna> would adding properties affect ABI?
[19:41] <apachelogger> nope, they are part of the MOC
[19:41] <apachelogger> oh lord
[19:41] <apachelogger> Package is not even a QObject
[19:41] <apachelogger> ewww
[19:41] <apachelogger> :S S:S :S:S
[19:41] <apachelogger> that is a major PITA
[19:42] <apachelogger> if you want to keep it a non-QObject we'll have to derive it into a QObject
[19:42] <apachelogger> PackageQObject or something
[19:42] <JontheEchidna> I did that to lower memory overhead, plus it wasn't using signals/slots anyway
[19:42] <apachelogger> have additional getters in the backend
[19:42] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: well, it would be using properties in qml :P
[19:43] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: are copy ctors implemented for package?
[19:43] <JontheEchidna> nope, but they only way you get them is in pointer form
[19:44] <apachelogger> that doesn't help the cause :P
[19:44] <apachelogger> so we'll have to have some sort of harness for qml
[19:44] <apachelogger> taking a pkg pointer and providing Q_PROPERTIES on it
[19:51] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://i.imgur.com/8K3Zb.png
[19:51] <JontheEchidna> :o
[19:52] <JontheEchidna> what if you had a .cpp object in the background that could mark a package from its model index?
[19:52] <apachelogger> what?
[19:52] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/120217/
[19:54] <ScottK> OK.  Another shot at -runtime uploaded.
[19:56] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: now I need a UI mock :P
[19:56] <JontheEchidna> :P
[19:57] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: as the style suggests I am thinking about deploying it for harmattan btw ;)
[19:57] <apachelogger> I have a feeling people will come up with shitty pkg managers again
[19:57] <JontheEchidna> maemo 6?
[19:58] <apachelogger> yus
[19:58] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Is the xapian-index problem fixed?
[19:58] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: upstream, yes. The 1.2.1 release is scheduled for tomorrow.
[19:58] <ScottK> Cool.
[19:59]  * apachelogger takes markey and dances
[19:59] <JontheEchidna> while it already could tell if an existing xapian index was out of date, it didn't detect the lack of one
[20:01] <apachelogger> bleh the listview in qml1 is so utter shite it makes me wanna barf all the time
[20:01] <apachelogger> you have to manually tell it to clip
[20:01] <apachelogger> also you have to wrap it in a super item or you'll get an uncontrollable white background
[20:02] <apachelogger> that thing has more pitfalls than java's string class
[20:05] <ScottK> 5 of the 11 armel builders are building qt or qtwebkit.  Pretty wild.
[20:06] <apachelogger> \o/
[20:06] <apachelogger> qt takes over the farm
[20:06] <ScottK> Mostly due to Qt security issues, but WTH.
[20:08] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I have been thinking about making a BackendInterface class that is basically a bunch of virtual functions for interacting with the QApt backend. (Pure virtual for the ones that really need a GUI, like warning or error reporting) Basically like MuonMainWindow is now, but without all the GUI stuff wired in.
[20:10] <apachelogger> tricky to not make assumptions about the UI there, but yeah, that'd make sense
[20:10] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: how do I get all packages in a group?
[20:11] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: master phonon, it seems that Muon is not mooing anymore. It's using this code with a filename that I know is correct: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686532/
[20:11] <JontheEchidna> uhh
[20:11] <apachelogger> I presume availableGroups returns sane groups
[20:11] <apachelogger> the API docs are not very useful there bTW
[20:12] <JontheEchidna> yeah, availableGroups returns a list of every group that has been found in the availablePackages
[20:12] <apachelogger> so how do I filter?
[20:12] <apachelogger> manually?
[20:12] <apachelogger> Oo
[20:12] <JontheEchidna> I used a QSortFilterProxyModel
[20:12] <apachelogger> ... exactly why there should be models in libqapt :P
[20:13] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: about the phonon issue... you are not runnning phonon from git by any chance?
[20:13] <JontheEchidna> nein
[20:13] <apachelogger> because I thought it to be an issue with the refactoring in pgst
[20:13] <apachelogger> no goody
[20:13] <CIA-130> [lp:~bulldog98/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk] Jonathan Kolberg * 131 * debian/rules Also install zsh completion files
[20:13] <CIA-130> [trunk] Jonathan Kolberg * bulldog98@kubuntu-de.org-20110910201342-ouwycuda47crfo9k * debian/rules Also install zsh completion files
[20:13] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/Phonon
[20:13] <JontheEchidna> I have 4:4.7.0really4.5.1-1ubuntu2
[20:13] <apachelogger> bulldog98++
[20:14] <bulldog98> apachelogger: thanks
[20:14] <bulldog98> why do I still have two of those commit messages?
[20:14] <apachelogger> cause ye broke it
[20:15] <bulldog98> how can you break it?
[20:15] <JontheEchidna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/686534/
[20:15] <apachelogger> dunno
[20:15] <apachelogger> well
[20:15] <apachelogger> it is clearly emitting two messages
[20:16] <apachelogger> one with weird path and one without
[20:16] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: most puzzling... also is your pulseaudio broken?
[20:16] <apachelogger> it appear syour pgst is using alsa directly
[20:17] <JontheEchidna> it is not installed, due to bug 591036
[20:17] <apachelogger> ah
[20:18] <apachelogger> might just be an alsa compat problem then
[20:18] <apachelogger> "just"
[20:18] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I think I found the problem
[20:18] <JontheEchidna> pgst works w/ dragon, though
[20:19] <markey> someone had pinged me?
[20:19] <markey> apachelogger you?
[20:19] <apachelogger> no, I touched you inappropriately
[20:19] <apachelogger> apparently you did not care :(
[20:19] <markey> oh dear
[20:20] <markey> you shall repent
[20:21] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna:     int state() const;
[20:21] <apachelogger> that is nothing short of horrifying TBH
[20:21] <apachelogger> markey: just don't tell my husband
[20:21] <apachelogger> he might want to kill us both
[20:23] <CIA-130> [lp:~bulldog98/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk] Jonathan Kolberg * 132 * debian/rules Cleaned up the rules
[20:23] <CIA-130> [trunk] Jonathan Kolberg * bulldog98@kubuntu-de.org-20110910202318-c9yur3hkv1xj13dg * debian/rules Cleaned up the rules
[20:23] <bulldog98> dam it
[20:24] <bulldog98> yofel: do you know what the problem could be?
[20:24] <ScottK> Heya BarkingFish.
[20:24] <BarkingFish> Hi ScottK 
[20:24] <yofel> bulldog98: remove the other hook? I'm not too familiar with bzr post commit hook invocation internals
[20:25] <BarkingFish> I'd been meaning to get a word to you, I'm not gonna be around for about a month, unless I can get my other PC loaded and working with Kubuntu on it.  I've got to lend my laptop to a friend, so I'm transferring all of my data off here and into one of my spare drives for now.
[20:25] <bulldog98> Riddell: how can I disable bzr plugins that are buildin and replace them, without deleting the file
[20:26] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://i.imgur.com/iuhih.png
[20:26] <JontheEchidna> :D
[20:26] <Riddell> bulldog98: how do you mean "buildin"?
[20:26] <BarkingFish> I don't know how my old PC will adapt with Kubuntu on it, it's only got 1GB of RAM, and a cruddy little P4 Xeon in it, so I hope it'll work
[20:27] <BarkingFish> That is, of course, assuming I can find my Kubuntu disc to install from :)
[20:27] <bulldog98> Riddell: I don’t want the stuff under /usr/share/pyshared/bzrlib/plugins/cia to be called, but the stuff in ~/.bazaar/plugins instead
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> brb
[20:28] <Riddell> you can use BZR_DISABLE_PLUGINS=cia
[20:29] <bulldog98> Riddell: where do I put that in? ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf?
[20:30] <Riddell> bulldog98: it's an environment variable
[20:30] <Riddell> see also http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-reference/configuration-help.html#bzr-plugin-path
[20:30] <Riddell> or point it directly at the plugin you want with http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-reference/configuration-help.html#bzr-plugins-at
[20:31] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: an news regarding Amarok 2.4.3 for Natty?
[20:31] <Riddell> BZR_PLUGINS_AT=myplugin@/home/me/bugfixes/123456-myplugin
[20:32]  * bulldog98 needs to logout and login again
[20:36] <ScottK> BarkingFish: It'll work, but you'll probably want to investigate apachelogger's kubuntu-lowfat package.
[20:37] <Riddell> bulldog98: why?
[20:37] <bulldog98> Riddell: cause I want to test it with your dolphin plugin :)
[20:37] <bulldog98> an ~/.kde/env is only parsed while login
[20:38] <BarkingFish> At the moment it looks like I'm gonna have to install it via a USB key, I just discovered my old DVD drive is borked.
[20:38] <JontheEchidna> back
[20:39] <ScottK> BarkingFish: That should be easy enough.
[20:39] <ScottK> As soon as this -runtime build finishes (one way or the other) I'm going to go collapse for awhile.
[20:40] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Use usb-creator-kde from your existing Kubuntu install and it's dead simple to put the install media on a USB stick.
[20:40] <BarkingFish> excellent
[20:40] <BarkingFish> Thanks
[20:48] <apachelogger> great
[20:48] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I refactored into brokeness :P
[20:53] <apachelogger> ah
[20:53] <apachelogger> fixed
[20:53] <apachelogger> yay
[20:54] <ScottK> Sigh.
[20:54] <ScottK> -runtime failed again.
[20:54] <ScottK> Builds on a PPA now.
[20:54] <ScottK> Not on buildd.
[20:54]  * ScottK goes for a rodrigo.
[21:00] <apachelogger> hf
[21:00] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://i.imgur.com/0NLVj.png
[21:01] <apachelogger> I really need some mockup
[21:01] <apachelogger> I am not meant to design guis
[21:02] <apachelogger> I am not even meant to design APIs and that is what I do most of the time :S
[21:03] <JontheEchidna> lol
[21:03] <JontheEchidna> looks cool
[21:03] <CIA-130> [lp:~bulldog98/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk] Jonathan Kolberg * 133 * zsh_completion/_kgetsource Made completion for kgetsource better
[21:03] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: commitChanges after having marked package for removal/install?
[21:04] <JontheEchidna> yus
[21:04] <apachelogger> ok, so I only needed to do that and have a working mobile package manager :P
[21:04] <JontheEchidna> then you'll need to listen for workerEvent, errorOcurred and warningOcurred
[21:04] <apachelogger>      * @see workerEvent()
[21:04] <apachelogger>      * @see commitProgress()
[21:04] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: docs need update I guess
[21:04]  * bulldog98 fixed that CIA think, kthx to Riddell for the pointer to the bzr setting
[21:05] <Riddell> bulldog98: what did you have to do?
[21:06] <bulldog98> Riddell: since I use yofel’s plugin and I have cia-plugins installed (they add a plugin to bzr) I had to set BZR_DISABLE_PLUGINS=cia
[21:06] <Riddell> yofel has a bzr plugin?
[21:06] <Riddell> to do what?
[21:07] <yofel> Riddell: it's a mod of jelmer's old one
[21:07] <yofel> since I couldn't get the one in the archive to work when I wanted one for neon
[21:07] <bulldog98> Riddell: to notify CIA-130 that there was a commit in the repro
[21:08] <yofel> also, the archive one shows junk as revno (revid I think)
[21:08] <bulldog98> yofel: maybe you should tell upstream to add your plugin
[21:09] <yofel> bulldog98: tell the LP devs to add cia support, that would be even better (there is a bug about that)
[21:10] <bulldog98> yofel: agreed, maybe we could add that in lp, but lp is a ugly moster, so only apachelogger could tame it :)
[21:10] <apachelogger> markey: y u not hanging?
[21:11] <markey> sec
[21:11] <apachelogger> bulldog98: I am not touching python, sir
[21:11] <yofel> bulldog98: well, and I don't really get how the cia plugin in the archive is designed, and no real intention to dig into it
[21:11]  * bulldog98 didn’t know lp was written in python
[21:12] <yofel> you never wondered why it was so slow? :P
[21:12] <markey> apachelogger: hanging out
[21:13] <bulldog98> but I could have guessed it nearly everything written within Canonical is written in python
[21:13] <apachelogger> markey: need to install plugin -.-
[21:13] <markey> k
[21:13] <markey> Mamarok: join us
[21:13] <bulldog98> yofel: I always thought it would be my connection :P
[21:13] <markey> Sput: you too?
[21:14] <yofel> bulldog98: your connection is hardly to blame if you get timeout errors :P
[21:14] <bulldog98> yofel: right :), maybe they should switch to assambly
[21:15] <yofel> that would go against the idea of being easy to contribute to...
[21:46] <BarkingFish> right guys, I'm off for the night.  I'll see you round, and hopefully my other PC by tomorrow will also be on kubuntu, so I don't have to quit while the laptop's gone :)
[21:46] <apachelogger>     void emitWorkerEvent(int event);
[21:46] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: int?
[21:46] <apachelogger> int!!!?????
[21:47] <apachelogger> why private to begin with, this is weird my friend
[21:47] <JontheEchidna> it sets d->state to the current event, and then emits workerEvent()
[21:48] <JontheEchidna> you dun need to worry about any of those private slots
[21:52] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: btw, http://api.kde.org/extragear-api/sysadmin-apidocs/libqapt/html/index.html
[21:52] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: it aint working
[21:52] <apachelogger> !!!!!
[21:52] <apachelogger> so toInstallCount is not null
[21:52] <apachelogger> but calling commitChanges does absolutely and entirely nothing
[21:54] <JontheEchidna> you should get a popup asking for a pass from polkit
[21:55] <apachelogger> I don't
[21:55] <JontheEchidna> :s
[21:55] <apachelogger> though, I think I do not even get it with qapt-whatever
[21:55] <apachelogger> another successful kitware
[21:55] <apachelogger> \o/
[21:56]  * apachelogger goes for a cig
[21:56] <JontheEchidna> you can also run as root to bypass the problem :P
[22:03] <apachelogger> ah
[22:03] <apachelogger> it werx
[22:03] <apachelogger> sorta
[22:03] <apachelogger> does osmething
[22:48]  * debfx prepares a kde-workspace upload with the kwin performance patch
[22:49] <debfx> ScottK: how is the kde-runtime situation?
[23:21] <ScottK> debfx: Still broken.
[23:22] <ScottK> I thought I had things all nicely separated and it built locally and in a PPA.
[23:22] <ScottK> It didn't, so I took a nap.
[23:22] <ScottK> I didn't have a chance yet to examine the debris and see why.
[23:25]  * valorie passes the coffee and another donut to ScottK
[23:26] <ScottK> Thanks.
[23:31] <markey> anyone wanna hang out on G+?
[23:31] <markey> apachelogger is there, and Mamarok, and Sput 
[23:32] <markey> and me
[23:45] <markey> apachelogger: invite me please
[23:45] <apachelogger> markey: done and done
[23:46] <markey> kk