[00:57] <pmatulis> anybody else stuck in the menu when installing 64bit server beta?  the main menu appears and you can't select anything, keep coming back to 'configure the clock'
[02:17] <BrandonBolton> Does the 11.10 installation normally start to hang? Like, keep the installation bar at the same spot for over 20 minutes?
[02:19] <Stanley00> BrandonBolton: Maybe, if you choose update while install or some thing like that
[02:20] <BrandonBolton> Stanley00: Sorry, right after I posted that the screen changed.
[02:21] <Stanley00> BrandonBolton: ;)
[02:33] <zHammeRz> upgraded to 11.10 - flash won't work in FF7..how to fix?
[02:33] <IdleOne> zHammeRz: add the sevenmachines PPA to your sources.
[02:38] <zHammeRz> how?
[02:40] <IdleOne> add to /etc/apt/sources.list the following two lines.
[02:40] <IdleOne> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu oneiric main
[02:40] <IdleOne> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu oneiric main
[02:41] <IdleOne> run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flash64-nonfree
[02:41] <IdleOne> I am assuming you installed 64bit
[02:41] <urlin2u> don't forget the key
[02:41] <IdleOne> yeah the key also
[02:41] <IdleOne> see: https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[02:42] <zHammeRz> naw, 32bit
[02:42] <urlin2u> zHammeRz, did you install the restricted-extras for your desktop?
[02:43] <urlin2u> what is the desktop?
[02:43] <zHammeRz> it was an upgrade from 11.04, everything else works fine except flash player in FF7
[02:43] <zHammeRz> 11.10 with Unity
[02:45] <urlin2u> zHammeRz, in the terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricte-extras     you need to check the /etc/apt/sources list first for any repos commented out due to the upgrade, and make sure any ppa's if there have oneiric
[02:45] <urlin2u> restricted*
[02:45] <urlin2u> /etc/apt/sources.list*
[02:46] <zHammeRz> Yea I have added those 2 sources already
[02:46] <urlin2u> zHammeRz, the sevenmachines are for 64 bit.
[02:47] <zHammeRz> Yea I see that
[02:47] <zHammeRz> How hard is it to go back to FF 6?  I only wanted to upgrade the operating system, not load every application up with some beta version
[02:47] <zHammeRz> kind of ticked me off
[02:48] <urlin2u> zHammeRz, flash works in FF7 I have that FF in naty and oneiric
[02:49] <zHammeRz> It worked fine for me in 11.04.  Just since the upgrade FF7 says missing plug ins, so I click the button and it says nothing found.  I try removing and adding it in the software center and it says the same thing
[02:49] <zHammeRz> FF7 seemed to work just like FF6, minus flash :)
[02:50] <urlin2u> zHammeRz, I have given you the answer bit you just ignore it, it is a waste of time helping you.
[02:50] <urlin2u> but*
[02:50] <zHammeRz> your answer doesn't apply since I am not running 64bit
[02:51] <urlin2u> zHammeRz, mine had nothing to do with 64 bit.
[02:54] <urlin2u> zHammeRz, none of this is 64 bit but both.  in the terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricte-extras     you need to check the /etc/apt/sources.list first for any repos commented out due to the upgrade, and make sure any ppa's if there have oneiric
[02:54] <basotl> When opening Synaptic I keep getting the following error: E: The value 'natty' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[02:54] <urlin2u> sorry ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:55] <urlin2u> basotl, do you have the update manager or software source open
[02:56] <basotl> urlin2u: No.
[02:56] <urlin2u> any refernce to dpkg -a
[02:56] <urlin2u> I had tyo actually install synaptic I believe.
[02:57] <basotl> After upgrading I did have to dpkg -a but I already ran that.
[02:58] <urlin2u> basotl, try this wont hurt anything and may fix it.   sudo apt-get -f install
[02:59] <urlin2u> basotl, actually if you have Oneiric it looks like you have Natty in the apt/sources.list take a look
[02:59] <basotl> I did and it's not listed anywhere. I purged my PPA's just in case I was going blind.
[03:00] <urlin2u> basotl, can you run a update in the terminal?
[03:01] <urlin2u> basotl, did you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for any extra ppa's
[03:01] <basotl> urlin2u: Yes. I have removed and installed programs from terminal.
[03:02] <urlin2u> did you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for any extra ppa's
[03:04] <basotl> urlin2u: None listing Natty. Removing all to see if that does anything.
[03:05] <urlin2u> basotl, removing all?
[03:05] <basotl> PPA I had added a couple back
[03:07] <urlin2u> basotl, here is a bug about this I believe. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/842179
[03:07] <basotl> Yeah... that bug looks like it. Subscribing.
[03:10] <basotl> I guess as long as it isn't just me. It seems the bug also causes the software center to crash. I wanted to check the new changes for it.
[03:10] <zHammeRz> Well, none of that worked...all it did was install some true type fonts.  So as a work around I installed chromium and enabled the html5 opt in for youtube
[03:10] <urlin2u> basotl, I see a reference to the proposed repos which are not open in development, you may have them open hard to say really>
[03:21] <basotl> urlin2u: I took proposed out of my sources list and still same issue. I'll just wait on it.
[03:21] <urlin2u> basotl, strange bug I haven't seen it
[03:23] <basotl> urlin2u: Yeah that bug report is the only mention I have found online. I looked through the forums but nothing like it. I normally run across others with similar bugs there.
[03:25] <urlin2u> basotl, if it was me if I couldn't get it to work I would do a fresh install, your wait may be along time if ever.
[03:26] <basotl> urlin2u: It's beta software. I've had many bugs fixed when I have tested through alpha's, ect. I can still use the terminal to install stuff so no huge issue yet.
[03:26] <urlin2u> basotl, brave user you are, I'm not that patient. :D
[03:31] <basotl> urlin2u: It's all part of the fun when testing the beta's.
[03:32] <urlin2u> :D
[04:13] <jeffrash> just upgraded to 11.10b1
[04:13] <jeffrash> need help with my software center icon
[04:13] <jeffrash> it's still showing up with the old icon in the panel
[04:14] <jeffrash> anyone have any ideas?
[04:14] <reya276> How can revert to the original installation graphics driver, the NVIDIA seems not to be working right?
[04:19] <reya276> How can revert to the original installation graphics driver? The Nvidia Driver does not seem to work properly
[04:20] <robin0800> jeffrash, yes its a bug if you look in applications you will see its the new one
[04:23] <robin0800> jeffrash, its obviously pointing to the wrong one
[04:26] <robin0800> reya276, nvidia-current works well try it if you haven't
[04:27] <reya276> robin0800, I have and it does not work well because I'm having all kinds of slow down and freezes
[04:28] <reya276> like stupid things when I click and hold a darn window it pauses then moves that is so Windows 95 man
[04:29] <reya276> Beta or not I expect something major to malfunction not something like that dude
[04:29] <reya276> And I got a damn good machine
[04:31] <reya276> So does anyone know how to revert back to the original install graphics driver, I want to remove all traces of the NVIDIA Proprietary Drivers
[04:36] <ChogyDan> reya276: I assume you can change it in xorg.conf
[04:36] <reya276> Actually I'm in the Additional Drivers section and I see something that says Nvidia Current
[04:38] <jeffrash> robin800, yes
[04:39] <reya276> This is my Current Graphics Card GeForce 6150SE nForce 430/PCI/SSE2
[04:39] <jeffrash> robin800, how do I fix it
[04:40] <reya276> No It seems that I can't revert nor change it as it keeps crashing
[04:41] <reya276> is there a way to do it from terminal, I have google it but nothing
[04:48] <ChogyDan> reya276: I think you can also just remove the nvidia-current package, or something like that.  I think the package name is a little different
[04:49] <reya276> right, I tried going into the stupid store and nothing it wont let me do it, I hate the fact that they removed synaptic damn it
[04:49] <reya276> I could easily have done it from there already
[04:50] <reya276> that was like my best friend :(
[04:50] <rww> so install Synaptic
[04:51] <reya276> I thought you could not do it in this version
[04:51] <rww> It's not installed by default. You can install it.
[04:51] <reya276> think this would work for Oneric http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/how-to-fix-the-plymouth-boot-screen-when-using-proprietary-graphics-drivers/
[04:52] <reya276> oops nevermind read that wrong
[04:54] <reya276> man I knew it, I had like 4 driver packages install, see that is why Synaptic is awesome
[05:35] <Crell> Hi folks.  I want to give the Kubuntu 11.10 beta a try on my laptop.  It doesn't appear to have a download ISO that I have found yet, though.  Is there one available, or should I install 11.04 and then upgrade?
[05:40] <rww> Crell: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 for the technical overview (which contains a known issues section, which you should read) and links to download pages (including Kubuntu)
[05:41] <Crell> Ah, gratzi.
[06:06] <reya276> How do you launch the Gnome Config tool(gconf)
[09:07] <os_> hi
[09:07] <os_> my ubuntu 11.10 doesn't work with kde
[09:20] <Lynoure> that's a wide complaint.
[09:20] <Lynoure> What do you mean by that?
[10:54] <trinikrono> just to be clear on something, if someone was using gnomepanel they would have to install it in oneiric? i noticed unity is the default
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:51] <Daekdroom> Is anyone else's Compiz behaving strangely?
[13:51] <Daekdroom> It seems I click through the window borders, so I can't use the mouse pointer to minimize/maximize/close windows.
[13:51] <jtaylor> yes I have that too
[13:54] <rigved> hi everyone. i'm using the latest beta. my laptop is able to connect to my bluetooth phone but i am unable to send or recieve files. can anyone help?
[14:00] <manish> anyone on oneiric and having problems with gnome-activity-journal? Anyone having this problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-activity-journal/+bug/831436
[14:16] <thebwt> does thunderbird background on close?
[14:23] <IdleOne> thebwt: how would I check that?
[14:24] <thebwt> I could just look at my running processes, and check. :p
[14:25] <thebwt> It doesn't, just like Evo didn't. But Evo did have a plugin that would make it background.
[14:25]  * thebwt will research later.
[14:28] <balo> hi
[14:29] <thebwt> hello
[14:45] <os__> hi
[14:45] <os__> kde doesn't work with me
[14:45] <penguin42> os__: What happens?
[14:46] <os__> simply .i have install it and doesn't work
[14:46] <os__> (my english isn't very good)
[14:46] <penguin42> os__: In which way doesn't it work ?
[14:46] <os__> it doesn't log in
[14:47] <penguin42> hmm
[14:47] <os__> x11 is restart
[14:47] <penguin42> os__: Did you install kubuntu or did you install kde on top of ubuntu, is this an upgrade from 11.04 or a fresh install?
[14:47] <os__> i have install pakage
[14:48] <os__> from packagre
[14:48] <os__> package
[14:48] <penguin42> how?
[14:48] <os__> how do i install kde
[14:48] <os__> or ubuntu 11.10?
[14:49] <penguin42> os__: Both
[14:49] <os__> ubuntu run in virtualbox
[14:49] <os__> clean install
[14:49] <os__> and kde
[14:50] <penguin42> os__: OK, how did you install kde - by installing kubuntu-desktop?
[14:50] <os__> no
[14:50] <os__> just a moment
[14:50] <os__> i am turn on the vBox
[14:56] <os__> i installed it form "plasma-desktop"
[14:58] <penguin42> os__: OK, I've never tried doing it like that - try installing the kubuntu-desktop package
[14:59] <os__> ok
[14:59] <os__> how can i add fall-back option to login menu?
[15:00] <penguin42> not sure
[15:01] <os__> it is installed??
[15:01] <os__> i insttalled it before
[15:01] <penguin42> ok; so the login screen comes up OK?
[15:02] <os__> splash??
[15:02] <os__> yes , it comes
[15:02] <penguin42> no, the login screen where it asks for your password
[15:02] <os__> yes
[15:02] <os__> i didn't chna
[15:02] <os__> change it to kdm
[15:02] <penguin42> and what happens when you put your password in?
[15:02] <os__> it login
[15:03] <os__> and the splash appeares
[15:03] <os__> it loading the hard ware
[15:03] <os__> and x11 crush!
[15:03] <penguin42> crash as in everything stops? Or it goes back to login screen?
[15:04] <os__> it back to login screen
[15:04] <penguin42> ok
[15:05] <penguin42> so if you look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old it might have some crash info from the X server - which graphics card do you use?
[15:05] <os__> that is work with vBox
[15:05] <penguin42> ah yeh vbox - sorry forgot
[15:06] <os__> it is ok
[15:06] <os__> gnome 3 shell is working well
[15:06] <penguin42> os__: OK, can you get to the text console and look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old to see if it ends in a crash?
[15:06] <os__> ok
[15:06] <penguin42> os__: It might be X server or might be KDE itself?
[15:07] <os__> it doesn't end with it
[15:08] <os__> did you want to try kde and then look?
[15:08] <os__> ok
[15:12] <os__> it is nessasary to be x.org.0?
[15:14] <penguin42> xorg.log.0 is the file from the previous or current run; when the next time it starts it moves it to .old
[15:15] <os__> i know
[15:15] <os__> i just suggest that i do a failure log in
[15:16] <os__> and get it from the recently file
[15:19] <os__> [  6388.532] (II) Unloading evdev
[15:19] <os__> [  6388.532] (II) (unnamed): Off.
[15:19] <os__> [  6388.589] (II) (unnamed): Close
[15:19] <os__> [  6388.589] (II) UnloadModule: "vboxmouse"
[15:19] <os__> [  6388.589] (II) Unloading vboxmouse
[15:19] <os__> [  6388.597] (II) VBoxVideo(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
[15:19] <os__> [  6388.597] (II) VBoxVideo(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xf8035000 at 0xb7757000
[15:19] <os__> [  6388.597] (II) VBoxVideo(0): [drm] Closed DRM master.
[15:19] <os__> [  6389.615]  ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log
[15:19] <penguin42> os__: Please use a pastebin!
[15:20] <os__> is it enough?
[15:20] <penguin42> no, please pastebin the whole file - what you need to do is login to KDE then when it fails it will be back at the login screen; the .old file should contain the interesting stuff
[15:22] <os__> i wil past x.org.1
[15:22] <os__> paste
[15:22] <penguin42> hmm, I'm not sure you want .1
[15:22] <penguin42> hmm 0.old is what I would expect
[15:22] <os__> ok
[15:22] <penguin42> what are the most recent /var/log/Xorg.*log* files ?
[15:22] <os__> x.org.1
[15:22] <os__> no just a moment
[15:24] <os__> it was xorg.0
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.447]
[15:24] <os__> X.Org X Server 1.10.2.902 (1.10.3 RC 2)
[15:24] <os__> Release Date: 2011-07-01
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.447] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.447] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-29-server i686 Ubuntu
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.447] Current Operating System: Linux os-VirtualBox 3.0.0-10-generic #16-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 2 18:38:35 UTC 2011 i686
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.447] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-10-generic root=UUID=d297965e-5e03-410a-8c4d-7aafabdaf6c4 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.449] Build Date: 13 July 2011  12:18:21AM
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.449] xorg-server 2:1.10.2.902-1ubuntu3 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.449] Current version of pixman: 0.22.2
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.449] 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
[15:24] <os__> 	to make sure that you have the latest version.
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.449] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
[15:24] <os__> 	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
[15:24] <os__> 	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.449] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Sep 10 18:11:45 2011
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.450] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.450] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.450] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.450] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.450] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.451] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
[15:24] <os__> 	Using a default monitor configuration.
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.451] (==) Automatically adding devices
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.451] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[15:24] <os__> [  1252.451] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[15:25] <penguin42> os__: Stop!
[15:25] <os__> [  1252.451] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[15:25] <penguin42> os__: Use a pastebin!
[15:25] <os__> [  1252.451] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not exist.
[15:25] <os__> [  1252.451] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[15:25] <os__> [  1252.451] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist.
[15:25] <os__> [  1252.451] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[15:25] <os__> [  1252.451] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" doe
[15:25] <os__> sorry
[15:25] <os__> can you explain
[15:25] <penguin42> os__: Install the package called pastebinit, it will put the file onto a webpage and give you a  URL you can give her
[15:25] <penguin42> e
[15:30] <os__> how to use pastebinit
[15:31] <penguin42> os__: pastebinit < filename
[15:31] <penguin42> (it might not need the < )
[15:32] <os__> filename = xorg log?
[15:32] <penguin42> yeh
[15:33] <os__> > or<
[15:34] <penguin42> <
[15:36] <os__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/686413
[15:37] <penguin42> os__: OK cool - was that Xorg.0.log or .old ?
[15:37] <os__> no
[15:37] <os__> just log
[15:37] <penguin42> ok, can we have .old ?
[15:37] <penguin42> that paste looks like it didn't crash
[15:37] <os__> so ?
[15:39] <os__> yes we have old
[15:40] <penguin42> can you pastebin the .old
[15:40] <os__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/686416
[15:41] <penguin42> ah good - that has a backtrace in
[15:43] <penguin42> os__: please file a bug for that by running      ubuntu-bug xorg     and explaining it happens when you start KDE; state what version of virtualbox you are using
[15:44] <os__> ok
[15:48] <os__> how to explain the problem ?
[15:48] <penguin42> os__: Description - X crashes on starting KDE
[15:49] <penguin42> os__: Then in the body give all the details you know - ubuntu-bug should include the logs; then tell us the bug number and I'll check it
[15:49] <os__> where i should type
[15:49] <penguin42> os__: What do you see?
[15:49] <os__> i uploaded the report
[15:50] <os__> but i didn't see any thing to write in
[15:50] <penguin42> have you got a bug number?
[15:50] <os__> no
[15:50] <balo> re
[15:51] <os__> but i have problems with launchpad site
[15:51] <penguin42> os__: What do you see?
[15:51] <balo> i have a problem with libglib2.0-0 package in oneiric (upgraded from natty)
[15:51] <os__> do you want to send report again?
[15:51] <os__> ok
[15:52] <balo> in this page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/i386/libglib2.0-0 the version is 2.29.90-0ubuntu1
[15:52] <os__> here i see a apport window
[15:53] <balo> $ apt-cache show libglib2.0-0 -> my version is  2.29.16-0ubuntu2
[15:53] <balo> after apt-get update / upgrade there's no new update
[15:53] <os__> ask me about the problem
[15:53] <os__> is it regression
[15:53] <penguin42> balo: Hmm - I have 2.29.90-0ubuntu1
[15:54] <os__> or ..etc
[15:54] <necreo> how can you modify the compiz plugins now? ccsm doesnt work at all
[15:54] <balo> i tried delete repo cache: $ sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[15:54] <penguin42> os__: Only say it's a regression if it used to work for you
[15:54] <os__> ok
[15:54] <balo> penguin42: yeah, i know, and there's in the repo what i'm using :( but it doesn't upgrade
[15:55] <os__> it ask me about additional deug
[15:56] <balo> after delete repo cache and update i checked the repo index in /var/lib/apt/lists/, searched for libglib2.0 and it equals with my version
[15:57] <balo> i'm using this repo, and the new version is there: http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.29.90-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[15:57] <balo> any idea? :/
[15:59] <balo> other hu.archive.ubuntu.com repo users don't experience the problem
[16:00] <necreo> how do you guys modify your compiz settings? ccsm doesnt do anything for me
[16:01] <balo> from my sources.list: "deb http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric main restricted"
[16:02] <lucas-arg> hey all what happened with screensaver in 11.10?
[16:02] <balo> i don't understand why can't see my os the new packages
[16:02] <os__> i can collaborate to the maximum extent
[16:03] <os__> so i chosse "yes what ever it takes to get this fixed in ubuntu"
[16:06] <necreo> does ccsm work for anyone??
[16:07] <penguin42> balo: You could pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0     and   apt-cache show libglib2.0-0   so we can compare it to what everyone else?
[16:08] <necreo> does ccsm work for anyone??
[16:08] <rigved> hi everyone. i cannot see any paid apps in my software center. are there some extra steps that i need to do before i can see and install them? using the latest beta...
[16:09] <rigved> necreo: yes, but it causes unity to crash as soon as i click on the preferences button.
[16:09] <rigved> otherwise, the plugins work.
[16:09] <necreo> mine used to, now it doesnt crash unity
[16:09] <necreo> it just does nothing
[16:09] <necreo> I can set it up all I want
[16:09] <necreo> doesnt do a thing
[16:12] <rigved> can anyone help me with my paid apps problem?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> rigved, paid apps?
[16:15] <balo> penguin42: http://pastebin.com/MWpZW49N thanks
[16:16] <penguin42> balo: Odd - do you get any errors if you do an apt-get update ?
[16:16] <rigved> BluesKaj: i cannot see any paid apps in my software center.
[16:17] <bullgard4> GNOME 3 sometimes does not show some rectangular portions of  a window. When hovering over them it will usually display them. Or I need to wait up to several minutes. Is this worth reporting to Launchpad?
[16:17] <penguin42> balo: Is what I see from the policy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686431/
[16:18] <penguin42> bullgard4: It's a bug - report it!
[16:18] <bullgard4> penguin42: hm
[16:18] <BluesKaj> rigved, dunno anything about paid apps
[16:19] <BluesKaj> rigved, afaik , there aren't any apps available to but from the reposy
[16:19] <BluesKaj> buy
[16:21] <balo> penguin42: just some "Ign" word before ".... TranslationIndex" and "... InRelease" lines
[16:21] <balo> but no errors (404, gpg or sg like that)
[16:21] <penguin42> balo: Have you tried flipping to a different mirror?
[16:21] <rigved> BluesKaj: ohh. ok. i thought that there was something wrong because i remember seeing a omgubuntu post showing paid apps in the software center on oneiric.
[16:22] <rigved> BluesKaj: anyways, thanks.
[16:22] <balo> penguin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686434/
[16:22] <balo> penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686434/
[16:23] <necreo> is there another way to set up compiz? I really miss its functionality? :(
[16:23] <balo> not yet, but other users using this repository not have this issue. but i'll try
[16:24] <penguin42> balo: My guess is that something in one of the other repositories/ppa's you have is stopping it
[16:24] <penguin42> balo: If you do   apt-get install libglib2.0-0=2.29.90-0ubuntu1 what happens?
[16:25] <Lynoure> I seem to have huge problems with my Amarok on Oneiric
[16:25] <bullgard4> penguin42: I have sent an error report to Launchpad.
[16:25] <Lynoure> It takes literally forever to start and bizarrely only starts after I do "killall amarok" getting something unstuck, I guess
[16:26] <penguin42> bullgard4: Good - I always think it's best to report bugs
[16:26] <penguin42> bullgard4: What bug number?
[16:27] <balo> penguin42: i change the mirror from Hungary to 'main' and it's solved the problem (i feel myself like a noob :D)
[16:27] <penguin42> balo: I'm not sure what the right way to report problems with mirrors is
[16:27] <balo> thanks anyway, but i don't understand what "sticked" w/ Hu. repository
[16:29] <lucas-arg> im having problems with cpu
[16:30] <lucas-arg> coolers go up high all time
[16:30] <balo> lucas-arg: what process use the CPU?
[16:31] <lucas-arg> balo, theres nothing using it... i dont seen anythin high in htop, its just the cooler...
[16:31] <lucas-arg> balo, in 11.04 it was ok
[16:32] <lucas-arg> balo, just yesterday i switched to 11.10 to test it ou
[16:32] <lucas-arg> t
[16:35] <balo> lucas-arg: are you see some strange value in `sensors`' output?
[16:35] <lucas-arg> balo, nop
[16:35] <lucas-arg> all temps are in 54 C
[16:37] <balo> is it doing this at boot or when you log in?
[16:39] <necreo> oneiric is working great for me here, just unable to set up compiz is a pita
[16:42] <BluesKaj> necreo, enable desktop effects is the next best
[16:42] <necreo> where do I do that
[16:43] <BluesKaj> penguin42, do you recall what the path to desktop effects is in gnome ?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> necreo, I'm no kde so the menus are differnt
[16:44] <necreo> using regular ubuntu with unity
[16:44] <BluesKaj> on kde
[16:44] <necreo> no
[16:44] <necreo> gnome
[16:44] <necreo> ubuntu, not kubuntu
[16:45] <BluesKaj> yeah, necreo that's why I asked penguin42
[16:46] <BluesKaj> I don't recall what the menu path for desktop effects is , but feel free to look around ..probly under admin
[16:48] <lucas-arg> my cooler is high all time, and i cant configure my sound cards properly yet
[16:50] <lucas-arg> only way i can configure my sound card poperly is using terminal and alsamixer...
[16:50] <BluesKaj> lucas-arg, that's the best method
[16:51] <lucas-arg> BluesKaj, will give some headaches to people who havent been that much time using linux...
[16:53] <jbicha> necreo: what desktop are you using?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> lucas-arg, well, if you're not familiar with linux enough to set up alsamixer, then running a Beta OS is beyond their scope, IMO
[16:53] <necreo> jbicha: ubuntu-desktop
[16:53] <jbicha> necreo: no, are you using Unity, Unity 2D, or what?
[16:54] <necreo> Unity
[16:54] <necreo> Ubuntu Gnome 3D Unity
[16:54] <jbicha> and what are you trying to do to Compiz? Unity already runs Compiz
[16:54] <necreo> I want to set up the plugins
[16:54] <necreo> like scale
[16:54] <jbicha> are you using GNOME Shell or Unity?
[16:54] <necreo> Unity
[16:54] <necreo> how many times man :D
[16:55] <jbicha> necreo: hey, you're the one that keeps saying Gnome... anyway, aren't you using ccsm?
[16:56] <necreo> Yes Im using ccsm, but it doesnt do anything
[16:56] <necreo> I can turn on plugins, set them up
[16:56] <necreo> but nothing happens
[16:56] <jbicha> well, messing with ccsm isn't really supported and I don't use it, sorry :-(
[16:58] <necreo> but how do you set up compiz then?
[16:58] <necreo> scale is like superusefull
[16:58] <jbicha> necreo: you shouldn't have to, it works out of the box
[16:59] <necreo> default alttab got no previews, no scale, no zoom, no expo
[17:00] <jbicha> necreo: did you try Win+W ?
[17:00] <s1gsegv> hi, i'm trying to get flash player installed on kubuntu. my system is 64-bit. i have flashplugin-installer installed but don't know what to do now
[17:00] <necreo> ah that will do for now, thanks jbicha
[17:00] <necreo> I usually bind that to my top right corner of the screen
[17:01] <jbicha> necreo: bottom right might be a better idea...
[17:01] <necreo> I use that one for show desktop
[17:01] <necreo> usually, not yet, think Ill have to wait until ccsm is fixed or smth
[17:06] <BluesKaj> ok s1gsegv , now that we know your OS status this can probly fix the flash problem https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[17:07] <bullgard4> penguin42: bug #846524
[17:22] <mongy> necreo, I have compiz setup on 11.10 unity with edges for scale/expo.  works fine.
[17:27] <necreo> really?
[17:27] <necreo> when mongy
[17:28] <necreo> I only installed yesterday
[17:28] <necreo> maybe an update broke it
[17:29] <mongy> installed beta1 and kept upto date since, last used it earlier today.
[17:31] <mongy> try a unity --reset or something, might fix something
[18:16] <sum1nil> hi all, I am having trouble compiling unity.
[18:16] <sum1nil> it's a missing header
[18:16] <sum1nil> #include <sigc++config.h>
[18:18] <rigved> sum1nil: use apt-file to serch for the package containing the missing files.
[18:18] <sum1nil> ok
[18:18] <trism> sum1nil: sudo apt-get build-dep unity;
[18:18] <sum1nil> thanks
[18:18] <rigved> sum1nil: yes, that should do it.
[18:25] <sum1nil> oh well Oneiric is looking pretty nice though; how can I tell exactly what revision I am at or does it work that way?
[18:41] <gnomie> whatever happened to 'sync this folder' option [with ubuntuone]? was expecting to just right click folder and see it there  :-/
[18:46] <gnomie> then again, i haven't updated in two days after all the unity selfdeletion deal  :-/
[18:49] <PerfieM> Oh, this is brilliant
[18:56]  * rww hums, ponders loading oneiric onto a LiveUSB and playing
[19:00] <PerfieM> This channel is just so interesting
[19:00] <PerfieM> I mean, Beta 1 RELEASED?!
[19:00] <PerfieM> NOO WAAY
[19:02] <PerfieM> Problem with the kick msg
[19:32] <Dalailamer> hi
[19:33] <Dalailamer> questionnn
[19:35] <Dalailamer> questionnn
[19:38] <penguin42> !ask
[19:39] <Dalailamer> wELL I installed kubuntu 11.10 but some crashed and so on
[19:39] <Dalailamer> wanted to ask if downgrade to 11.04
[19:42] <oCean> Dalailamer: no, downgrades are explicitly not supported
[19:42] <Dalailamer> YES i know
[19:42] <Dalailamer> i would reinstall
[19:42] <Dalailamer> but does it make sensse
[19:43] <oCean> what exactly?
[19:43] <Dalailamer> to downgrade to a stable version
[19:43] <Dalailamer> hehe
[19:44] <oCean> it all depends on what you want and need. If you need stable, then don't use beta
[19:44] <oCean> that makes a lot of sense
[19:44] <Dalailamer> yesm hate beta but my problemn is
[19:44] <Dalailamer> i installed about 5 times today, i do not want to crash my hdd
[19:49] <Dalailamer> i installed about 5 times today, i do not want to crash my hdd
[19:52] <bazhang> the compiz bug?
[19:53] <Dalailamer> no
[19:53] <Dalailamer> I isntalled often today 5 times
[19:54] <Dalailamer> and i do not want to crash my hdd
[19:54] <bazhang> why?
[19:54] <Dalailamer> because formatting
[19:54] <bazhang> give some actual error messages please
[19:54] <Dalailamer> no there are no errors
[19:54] <Dalailamer> i heard formatting is dangerous
[19:54] <bazhang> its not
[19:55] <Dalailamer> ok thx
[19:55] <bazhang> np
[19:55] <Dalailamer> yes its about the compiz bug some ideas if it would work on it
[19:55] <Dalailamer> ?
[19:55] <Dalailamer> #776435
[19:55] <Dalailamer> sorry i meant +#776435
[19:55] <penguin42> you mean bug 776435
[19:55] <Dalailamer> bug 776435
[19:55] <Dalailamer> ok
[19:55]  * penguin42 pats the bot
[19:56] <Dalailamer> i am waiting  since a year on it no fixes
[20:04] <gnomie> desktop is not filling screen 100%. there is about a milimeter gap on all sides. output is thru dvi so can't use monitor settings to correct display
[20:04] <Dalailamer> bug 776435
[20:05] <penguin42> gnomie: 1mm gap - that's odd - it's neither grossly wrong or exactly right!
[20:05] <gnomie> precisely
[20:06] <penguin42> gnomie: Has it always been like that or just with +1 ?
[20:06] <gnomie> just today after updates. i also see small artifacts over the panel corresponding each indicator..
[20:07] <penguin42> gnomie: No, I meant the gap
[20:07] <gnomie> just today after updates
[20:08] <gnomie> display settings seem normal too
[20:08] <gnomie> but they arent
[20:09] <penguin42> you could see if there is anything on /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:16] <gnomie> penguin42: no errors
[20:16] <penguin42> gnomie: I didn't actually expect errors for something as small an error like that - but maybe something wrong with the resolution/frequencies/modeline
[20:16] <gnomie> doesn't really bother me that much, but i did notice it though
[20:17] <penguin42> gnomie: Please report the bug - include model/make of monitor and exactly how it's wired
[20:19] <penguin42> gnomie: It's the type of thing which gets really interesting if lots of people find it; e.g. everyone with a certain type of card/monitor etc
[20:25] <gnomie> otherwise, colors look awesome. image is top notch with the opensource driver
[20:25] <gnomie> just that gap
[20:42] <gnomie> penguin42: check this: http://imagebin.org/171947  this screenshot isn't a correct representation of the issue but if you look closely, you will see the artifacts above the indicators at least.. the gap is wider, screenshot cant show it for obvious reasons [gap is beyond the desktop surface area]
[20:43] <penguin42> gnome: Hmm yeh some noticeable crud up there - not sure if that's the same reason as the gap though; have you got a digi camera?
[20:44] <gnomie> not at hand atm
[20:45] <penguin42> how about an 11.04 boot CD?
[20:47] <gnomie> i see .. i could give that a try.. i think i might have in my stash
[20:47] <penguin42> if you do then compare the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the 11.04 without the gap and to the current situation with the gap; or file a but from the current situation but then include the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the 11.04 boot CD if it doesn't have the gap
[20:49] <gnomie> right.. i follow
[20:49]  * gnomie nods
[20:52] <Kronsby> just upgraded to 11.10 and can not get the software center to install ndiswrapper any help?
[20:58] <Kronsby> :(
[21:00] <jbicha> Kronsby: try from the command line, did ndiswrapper work on 11.04?
[21:02] <Kronsby> ndiswrapper did indeed work on 11.04 and it does not work in the terminal... atleast the apt-get
[21:02] <Kronsby> how would you recommend installing from terminal
[21:03] <jbicha> "does not work" is awfully vague, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[21:04] <Kronsby> sorry...I have no internet. That is why I am trying to use this. It should not matter because the disk has the software on it.
[21:07] <jbicha> sorry, I haven't had to use ndiswrapper in years, I don't think it's needed for most hardware
[21:07] <Kronsby> i have a shitty dlink usb wireless adapter :( so it is needed
[21:08] <jbicha> I think we need a newer ndiswrapper, which would need a feature freeze exception
[21:09] <gnomie> penguin42: to be honest, i happened to notice more now 'cause i change brightness level. the edges have always been like that. what is new though, is the top edge artifacts.
[21:10] <Kronsby> jbicha, I agree!
[21:12] <gnomie> but, i predict they'll be gone before release day. might happen on next updates even. so i'll just give it time
[21:12] <gnomie> i deem it too insignicant of a bug to bother
[21:12] <gnomie> at least for now
[21:15] <gnomie> on the bright side, i got my wish granted. dash home button [unity-2d] is looking as presentable as the 3d counterpart
[21:15] <Cyrax5> So I tried to upgrade to 11.10 today but it kept freezing during the upgrade. Then later that day I attempt to reinstall unity as I had previously removed it. I installed the unity2d package for some reason. Now when I log on I'm faced with http://i.imgur.com/oZ5ln.png
[21:16] <Kronsby> the software center asks for my authentication and the progress bar shows up for half a second and then goes away and never installs ndiswrapper
[21:17] <gnomie>  file bug.
[21:17] <Cyrax5> ubuntu-desktop isn't installed but it fails to as xdiagnose won't install
[21:18] <gnomie> then try installing via terminal
[21:18] <gnomie> goes without saying, but.. i did
[21:18] <gnomie> :o
[21:21] <gnomie> if that also fails, you can try rebuild sources, Kronsby .. i forget the command. somehting with an -f.. am hungry..
[21:22] <gnomie> :(
[21:26] <gnomie> thinking about it, those artifacts might be unity-2d specific
[21:33] <gnomie> so, yeah.. unity3D didnt show artifacts  :-/
[21:36] <gnomie> unity3D looks visually stunning. had not logged into it in a few days, nice shock value there
[21:36] <gnomie> am kinda jealous
[21:38] <gnomie> i guess as a 'fallback' unity2D is fine.. :-/
[21:38] <gnomie> grr
[22:01] <xoomdev> Anybody know if there is some kind of workaround to updating to oneiric, getting http://pastebin.com/pqEPTJZG on upgrade
[22:04] <xoomdev> ok i guess ill check back later.
[22:06] <jfdr> why ubuntu iso doesn't fit on cd?
[22:12] <gnomie> ha! nautilus calculted my 11.10 disc to be 727.5mb
[22:13] <gnomie> s/calculted/calculated
[22:14] <gnomie> cd-r is labeled at 700mb though.. i don't even recall doing anything special to burn it
[22:15] <gnomie> i used k3b on a kubuntu machine
[22:17] <gnomie> k3b does have an overburn option though
[22:20] <aguitel> how upgrade to 11.10 from 11.04 ?
[22:21] <bazhang> !upgrade | aguitel
[22:24] <aguitel> bazhang, no specific information about upgrade to 11.10
[22:40] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades aguitel
[22:40] <bazhang> gah
[23:26] <BrandonBolton> I have a question. How come I can never adjust my screen brightness on my netbook? When I hit fn up or down on the D-Pad a bar fills up and decreases but nothing happens.
[23:27] <penguin42> BrandonBolton: Probably a bug
[23:28] <BrandonBolton> penguin42: That even happened on 11.04 before I decided to install 11.10. Do you know anyway to actually get it to work?
[23:29] <penguin42> BrandonBolton: No, but it's not something I've ever fought with; it's possibly something hardware specific
[23:31] <BrandonBolton> penguin42: Okay, thank you for your help. I will try and figure it out. It is more annoying than a struggle.
[23:31] <penguin42> BrandonBolton: Try: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[23:32] <BrandonBolton> penguin42: Thank you, I shall look into it.
[23:37] <penguin42> is anyone suffering from the mouse cursor disappearing at odd times?
[23:41] <BrandonBolton> penguin42: Yes, mine does every so often but I just move my finger around the mouse pad and it comes back.
[23:41] <jeffrash> 11.10 volume control in panel app not working.  Is this a know bug?
[23:41] <penguin42> BrandonBolton: In ay particular apps or generally?
[23:43] <BrandonBolton> penguin42: Just like in general. I only use this computer for Bluefish, Google Chrome, Firefox, Document Viewer, and sometimes Inkscape if that helps any.
[23:44] <penguin42> thanks
[23:44] <BrandonBolton> jeffrash: I had lots of things not work until I ran updates. I had to do it from command line to get all of the updates though. It didn't work for me until after I did that.
[23:47] <jeffrash> BrandonBolton, I'm completely updated on two systems and it still doesn't work.  However, the FN key volume control works fine on the laptop and the keyboard volume control works on the desktop.
[23:48] <jeffrash> BrandonBolton, the desktop is an upgrade from 11.04 and the laptop is a fresh install.
[23:51] <BrandonBolton> jeffrash: It just tried to test it out once again and it locked up my desktop. I had hit control alt F1 and ALT F7 to free it.
[23:51] <jeffrash> BrandonBolton, I've got the same issue
[23:52] <jeffrash> BrandonBolton, I'm sure that will get fixed
[23:53] <BrandonBolton> jeffrash: Yes, it was a reported bug already, I just checked.
[23:56] <necreo> how do I open a file with an application I specify?
[23:56] <mrdeb> have you tried the new ubuntu
[23:56] <mrdeb> is it looking good
[23:56] <necreo> there are only other apps listed, the one I want isnt in there
[23:56] <necreo> buggy
[23:56] <mrdeb> ok
[23:57] <jeffrash> BrandonBolton, what the link to the bug?
[23:58] <necreo> anyone??
[23:58] <BrandonBolton> jeffrash: This is the link to the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/840718
[23:58] <jeffrash> BrandonBolton, thanks
[23:58] <necreo> cant you specify an application to open files with?
[23:58] <necreo> how do I get this application "known" so it shows up in the list?
[23:59] <BrandonBolton> necreo: I just right click and hit 'open with' and just select the program.
[23:59] <necreo> the program isnt in there
[23:59] <necreo> that's my problem
[23:59] <necreo> what do you do then
[23:59] <necreo> where does it look for these programs? maybe I can create a symlink