[00:19] <Ooberbuntu> Is off topic chitchat allowed in this channel?
[00:20] <philipballew> Ooberbuntu, it really depends on the amount of trafic
[00:22] <Ooberbuntu>  Iam not seeing anyone asking any questins unless I don't see everything o nthe freenode.
[00:23] <philipballew> what do you want to talk about
[00:24] <holstein> Ooberbuntu: you can /join #ubuntu-beginners-team for OT
[00:25] <philipballew> probably better holstein :)
[00:25] <Ooberbuntu> I'd have to think of a worthwhile topic.
[00:26] <philipballew> haha. well have fun
[00:28] <Ooberbuntu> Like off topic and not even ubuntu topic. Like the fact that I have the sneaky suspicion that Ad-Aware is up to no good since I havn't used that program in 2-3 years and ......
[00:29] <iceflatline> no good?
[00:29] <Ooberbuntu> should have uninstalled it. It never had an auto-update that updated but the same day that they started to ask to update I get browser redirects and havn't  and don't get anything that irritating  but once every 3-4 years.
[00:30] <Ooberbuntu> I would bet money  on it and just kills me what some companies try to do.
[00:31] <Ooberbuntu> Thats on a windows maching of course
[00:32] <iceflatline> Interesting. Yeah, I haven't run that program for a few years.
[00:32] <iceflatline> Using Malwarebytes for the occasional spot clean :)
[00:33] <Ooberbuntu> It lost its flavour and usefullnes a few years ago wich is why I havn't used it iether.
[00:33] <iceflatline> Started to become really bloated as I recall.
[00:33] <Ooberbuntu> Interestig that Malwarebytes nor Spybot Serch and destroy would pick anything up.\
[00:33] <Ooberbuntu> So I am goin gto have to dig deeper.
[00:33] <iceflatline> Another I use is Superantispyware
[00:34] <iceflatline> Stupid name but is seems to catch a thing or two that MB misses.
[00:37] <Ooberbuntu> Just so, so irritating when you click on ubuntu.com and are taken t oa search page and page back and click on the same link and then go to the right site the second time.
[00:37] <holstein> Ooberbuntu: what link?.. what page?
[00:38] <Ooberbuntu> Was talking about browser redirect malware or virus or whatever it is.
[00:38] <Ooberbuntu> Clicking o na link i n a serch engine
[00:39] <Ooberbuntu> Going to a search page initially but the second time going to the intended page.
[00:39] <Ooberbuntu> could be any URL
[00:39] <holstein> when i ran windows i would just reinstall it every 6 months or a year
[00:40] <iceflatline> lol, that's what I'm doing as I type this :)
[00:40] <iceflatline> reinstall on my Lenovo t410
[00:40] <iceflatline> sux
[00:40] <Ooberbuntu> I should do that but when I first installed, never really made a propper image and it already got to the point to where I didn't want an image of what it became.
[00:41] <holstein> ive got windows 7 on this EEE for dual booting, but ive only booted in a couple times... im going to wipe it next time i do some maintenance
[00:41] <Ooberbuntu> Keep telling myself that I am goin gto reinstall fresh and then take a good image.
[00:41] <iceflatline> I need to for work, but yeah I dual boot too.
[00:41] <holstein> yeah, you could just image when life is good, and restore that image every now and then
[00:41] <iceflatline> Ooberbuntu: right, you have to do right off.
[00:42] <Ooberbuntu> iceflatline, is that a lenovo thing or just your model?
[00:43] <iceflatline> Wadda ya mean?
[00:44] <Ooberbuntu> Yo usaid is sucks reinstalling on yout T410. I have a T60
[00:44] <holstein> yeah, installing windows is a drag
[00:44] <holstein> dealing with the drivers and all that
[00:44] <iceflatline> Oh, no, I just mean the fact that I have to do it at all.
[00:45] <holstein> certain hardware can be painful with linux, but usually its all just out of the box easy :)
[00:45] <iceflatline> I didn't do an image when I got so now I have to a full factory reinstall
[00:45] <iceflatline> very time consuming.
[00:45] <Ooberbuntu> holstien, I take it you never use any defualt windows driver then?
[00:45] <holstein> sometimes, depends
[00:48] <Ooberbuntu> How many cows do you have?
[00:49] <Ooberbuntu> I never read up on reinstaling on an IBM/Lenovo laptop. I assume that a windows reinstall is easer than othre mashines since I hav't seen the stupid backup partitin that other manufactuers put  on theirs. Any comments?
[00:53] <holstein> i find the backup partitions to be easy.. or the maufacturer CD's
[00:53] <holstein> usually all the drivers are in place
[00:55] <Ooberbuntu> What about upgrading say from winXP to 7 with a backup partitino? Is that easy?
[00:56] <holstein> that wont ever come up
[00:56] <holstein> you have the backup partition to whatever OS came on the box
[00:56] <holstein> you get a newer OS, and you get a different CD or whatever
[00:57] <Ooberbuntu> I think yo have to mess around a bit and waste more precious time. You have to wype out the partition don't you?
[00:57] <holstein> its your machine
[00:58] <holstein> you might choose to, or the installer might try and force you to, but you dont *have* to
[00:58] <holstein> partitioning doesnt take much time
[00:59] <Ooberbuntu> I have heard, though never encountered becuase I have only had personal custom built boxes untill I bought a Lenovo laptop, that some OEM's becomeing proprietary, would put a little chip on the MB so that it would defualt to the backup partition on installs.
[00:59] <holstein> beats me...
[00:59] <holstein> nothing i own has that
[01:00] <urlin2u> Ooberbuntu, that is a myth. :D
[01:00] <holstein> i would imagine that would be something the hard drive could do that would make it seem like that is happening
[01:00] <Ooberbuntu> Me either. Just heard of others even buying new HDD's and even though they got rid of the partition. THe MB would look for it and cause probs since it wasn't there.
[01:01]  * holstein is skeptical
[01:01] <urlin2u> holstein, hey man sorry to interr. :Dupt
[01:01] <holstein> urlin2u: whats up?
[01:01] <Ooberbuntu> I thought htat would be redidculous.
[01:01] <urlin2u> interrupt doh
[01:01] <urlin2u> urlin2u, just lurking.
[01:02] <holstein> oh... hello :)
[01:02] <urlin2u> Ooberbuntu, you can have problems when you change a HD, but those can be worked out generally.
[01:03] <Ooberbuntu> Are you the 'Locating Uniform Resource Locator King"?
[01:03] <urlin2u> Ooberbuntu, no I'm a queen lol :D
[01:03] <Ooberbuntu> or your'Uniform Resource Locator in 2U'?
[01:04] <urlin2u> not really but it sounded funny.
[01:04] <Ooberbuntu> hmmm, queen could be a girl or a gay guy.
[01:04] <urlin2u> I'm neither
[01:05] <Ooberbuntu> hermaphrodyte, good. covers all the bases
[01:05] <urlin2u> I have vhelped a lot on the windows channel and see some of the problems you mentioned, they are the best resource if not here for Windows Myths.
[01:06] <urlin2u> holstein, gigs going good you mentioned more were on the table a short time ago?
[01:06] <holstein> yeah, its going well
[01:06] <Ooberbuntu> I don't have any of thos probs. Was just shit chaching. I don't own any of the rack systems unless sombody dumps one on my doorstep.
[01:06] <holstein> i have a few days off, and my bass is in the shop
[01:07] <urlin2u> holstein, what's the repair
[01:07] <holstein> no big deal.. wear and tear pretty much
[01:07] <Ooberbuntu> That was sopposed to be chit chatting
[01:08] <Ooberbuntu> (looking to see why the 's' is not even close to my'c' on my keyboard.)
[01:08] <urlin2u> figured as much I wish I was near a place you played to come see you live. :D
[01:08] <holstein> i streamed tuesday nite
[01:08] <holstein> i should link it in *-beginners-team
[01:09] <urlin2u> really, do you have a url to check for that?
[01:09] <holstein> not really... i just share on the IRC
[01:09] <holstein> i should
[01:09] <urlin2u> yeah, I wold be watching
[01:09] <holstein> i used to do it more often
[01:09] <urlin2u> would*
[01:09] <holstein> its just audio, not the video
[01:10] <holstein> i could use ustream though
[01:10] <urlin2u> holstein, you use a pickup, or just mic the bass?
[01:10] <Ooberbuntu> Hey, new topic for coment. What about that guy that had over 140 linux distros dual bootable on one maching? THen almost a year later in 2007 or 2008 he said he had over 200.
[01:10] <urlin2u> generally?
[01:11] <holstein> urlin2u: depends... i usually just use the bass acoustic, but i have an amp i can use with a pickup or a mic or both
[01:11] <urlin2u> Ooberbuntu, with a extended anything is possible.
[01:12] <urlin2u> holstein, I figured you were a straight acoustic unless otherwise needed, many players have gone back to that iot seems.
[01:12] <Ooberbuntu> I don't think he had an extended unless you mean partition then yes, he did. But that probably had to be what yo were refering to.
[01:12] <urlin2u> a lot
[01:12] <holstein> urlin2u: when theres drums around, or other amps ill use the amp
[01:13] <holstein> some drummers can play acoustic with me though
[01:13] <urlin2u> Ooberbuntu, only 4 primaries per HD or 3 and a extended are possible
[01:14] <urlin2u> holstein, your not a gut sting user I think I asked this before.
[01:14] <urlin2u> string
[01:14] <holstein> i have in the past... i like them
[01:14] <Ooberbuntu> I just remembe him telling someone the whole reason as to why he did it was just becuase he wanted to see how many he could do, the process, Then when asked why he kept them, 'becaus I wanted to maintain what I had'.
[01:14] <holstein> i use velvet blue gut-like core strings wrapped in bronze
[01:14] <urlin2u> holstein, yeah they have a unique sound
[01:14] <urlin2u> ah that makes sense.
[01:14] <Ooberbuntu> Not sure I would want to have to update or upgrade that many distros.
[01:15] <holstein> more bow-able, and easier to keep intune
[01:15] <holstein> no substitute for gut though...
[01:15] <urlin2u> Ooberbuntu, I have had about 7 as the max yeah updates are a chore.
[01:16] <urlin2u> holstein, are the gut strings a little more sensitive, so hard to bow basically.
[01:16] <urlin2u> harder accurately
[01:16] <holstein> just different
[01:16] <holstein> takes more effort to bow them
[01:16] <holstein> like twice as much work with the box
[01:16] <holstein> bow*
[01:17] <urlin2u> always played electric to frightened of the upright and no fret lines, I play fretless, but I jerked the frets.
[01:17] <Ooberbuntu> You two talking about violins?
[01:17] <Ooberbuntu> I thought you were first talking about guitars
[01:18] <holstein> its whatever you get used to... frets just annoy me
[01:18] <urlin2u> I don't like frets either, but am used to looking at the fretboard while playing
[01:19] <urlin2u> Ooberbuntu, upright bass is the main reference
[01:19] <holstein> Ooberbuntu: if you are interested http://www.mikeholstein.info/
[01:20] <holstein> shameless self promotion ;)
[01:20] <Ooberbuntu> I didn't think they had frets. Like a violin where the strings don't really run paralel lto the bridge.
[01:21] <Ooberbuntu> You shold play i ncleveland holstien center, since its named after you.
[01:22] <holstein> Ooberbuntu: if you type 'hol' and then hit the 'tab' key, it'll auto complete holstein :)
[01:23] <urlin2u> listening to sender excellent man great intonation. :D
[01:23] <Ooberbuntu> holstein: hey your right.
[01:23] <holstein> urlin2u: thanks :)
[01:24] <Ooberbuntu> holstein: I spelled it wrong I know
[01:24] <holstein> Ooberbuntu: no worries, just leting you know about the time saving auto-complete :)
[01:25] <Ooberbuntu> so there are bases with frets then? I didn't know this. Didn't have stings i nmy symphonic band in hich schol and didnt' take music in college
[01:25] <holstein> Ooberbuntu: my bass has no frets, but they make whatever you want :)
[01:26] <Ooberbuntu> Though some high schools now accross the country are introducing strings interestingly.
[01:26] <urlin2u> Ooberbuntu, electric basses generally
[01:27]  * pedro3005 waves
[01:28] <urlin2u> It is a shame to see music programs disappearing in general, there is proof through studies that a person who starts music at a young age has a different brain development that is a advantage
[01:29] <urlin2u> an*
[01:29] <Ooberbuntu> We had s liitle more wealthy cashinfluence I remember in my high school. We could afford a few things others didn't have. We were one of the few marching bands in ohio tha thad  realostrich plume in our hats.
[01:29] <Ooberbuntu> real ostrich plumes
[01:30] <urlin2u> Ooberbuntu, what did you play in marching band?
[01:30] <Ooberbuntu> couldn't wear them at rainy football games though. Would let us. They cost too much, didn't want to ruin them.
[01:30] <Ooberbuntu> T-bone
[01:31] <Ooberbuntu> First chair in Symph and seconf in jazz
[01:31] <Ooberbuntu> I wich I still messed around an need to get the chopps back in shape.
[01:32] <urlin2u> Ooberbuntu, ohh cool have you checked out Delfeayo Marsalis,I saw him with Elvin Jones waxed the whole band.
[01:32] <urlin2u> except Elvin off course.
[01:32] <urlin2u> of
[01:33] <urlin2u> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delfeayo_Marsalis
[01:33] <Ooberbuntu> I always wanted to get a trigger trombone and never did. Never too late I guess.
[01:34] <Ooberbuntu> Maybe even a vale bone
[01:36] <Ooberbuntu> No, not a vale bone. They are usually researver for trumpet migrants
[01:36] <urlin2u> one of my best friends growing up was a T-Bone player, more natural talent then I would have in 10 lifetimes, I have a great respect for trombone player not an asy instrument to master.
[01:36] <Ooberbuntu> He's a year older than I am.
[01:39] <Ooberbuntu> Things never realized. I was pretty good and had potential, Now my tone is terrible.
[01:39] <urlin2u> holstein, that is very good the album I will buy a copy when I get my tuition dispersement next Friday, glad you linked us up. :D
[01:40] <Ooberbuntu> Remember my band director, who was a great guy, kept tring to get me to chalange for seat position becuase he knew I could go up a positino and did every time. Those were the good ole days.
[01:40] <holstein> urlin2u: thanks.. you can listen all you want for free :)
[01:40] <urlin2u> holstein, gotta support the team though.
[01:40] <holstein> i'll take it :)
[01:43] <Ooberbuntu> Sounds like you start off as a drummer.
[01:43] <Ooberbuntu> holstein: did you secretly want to be a drummer also?
[01:44] <urlin2u> it's a rhythm section thing
[01:44] <Ooberbuntu> ONe problem with your site and listening to your misic is that it doesn't seam to buffer when you pause like normal flash does.
[01:44] <urlin2u> I think
[01:45] <Ooberbuntu> I am using a government wifi from 300 feet across the street wich is not real fase unfortunately and have to let it buffer.
[01:46] <Ooberbuntu> Intersting I can get G from 300 feet though. Probably only becuase its on top of an 8 story building? Yeh probably.
[01:48] <Ooberbuntu> holstein: I take that back, it is buffering,but slowly. So slow I didnt' notice at first.
[01:48] <holstein> Ooberbuntu: i was a percussionist... i went to school for that
[01:49] <holstein> Ooberbuntu: thats all coming from bandcamp, http://holstein.bandcamp.com/
[01:49] <urlin2u> I suspected you were a multi instrumentalist, many Jazz players are
[01:49] <Ooberbuntu> holstein: I am sorry "percussoinist' , I used the rock and roll lingo.
[01:50] <Ooberbuntu> How unrefined of me.\
[01:50] <holstein> lol
[01:51] <philipballew> oh hey everybody!
[01:52] <Ooberbuntu> Here is a link to a good pal from high school. I remember he decised he wanted to stick with music and wanted to learn other instruments in high school and the dir. even let hem dierect aa coule pieces. http://www.gvsu.edu/music/barry-martin-4.htm
[01:53] <Ooberbuntu> Learning other instruments in high school was usually unheard of but he said he wanted to be a band director.
[01:53] <holstein> you'd be surprised what they'll *let* you do... getting paid to do it... thats a different story ;)
[01:54] <Ooberbuntu> Not that anyone cares, he's not famous or anything.
[01:54] <holstein> seems like a nice progream
[01:54] <holstein> program*
[01:54] <Ooberbuntu> But that was his dream and he went after it and lived it.
[01:54] <holstein> nice
[01:55] <holstein> i wanted to be a band director, went to college for that
[01:56] <philipballew> college is awesome!
[01:57] <philipballew> how many interments you play holstein ?
[01:58] <holstein> philipballew: just a few well enough to actually play them live or whatever
[01:58] <holstein> but i dabble
[01:58] <holstein> i even studied a bit of trombone
[01:59] <Ooberbuntu> Well I remember hhim telling me he wanted to be a band director of a school and I said, ' oh yeh right, there are only so many people want to do that and how many high schools and colleges there are' You wold have to be the best I told him to get your chane.
[01:59] <holstein> yeah?
[01:59] <Ooberbuntu>  I will give him that, he focussed and accomplished his goal.
[01:59] <holstein> thats interesting
[01:59] <holstein> around here its hard to keep them
[02:00] <holstein> the gigs dont pay well typically, so its a high burn-out position
[02:00] <holstein> lots of work for the bread
[02:00] <holstein> and lots of responsibility
[02:01] <Ooberbuntu> holstein: Where is 'around here'?
[02:01] <holstein> asheville north carolina US
[02:02] <Ooberbuntu> I wold imagine its harder if your classically trained as apposed to looking for gigs in a rock and roll band.
[02:02] <iceflatline> I'm in VA
[02:02]  * holstein grew up in west virginia
[02:03] <iceflatline> Neighbors!
[02:03] <Ooberbuntu> I have seen an influx of rock and roll activity the last couple years of more great talented bands and cities having 'music i nthe park' type concerts that they sponsor.
[02:03] <philipballew> no ca love on this channel :)
[02:03] <Ooberbuntu> Its almost like a movement.
[02:04] <iceflatline> My Wife's from SFO
[02:04] <Ooberbuntu> There is also a traveling circuit of non famous bands traveling around the country playing at small venues and city centers and ever going internatinoal.
[02:05] <iceflatline> I'm originally from OR
[02:05] <Ooberbuntu> I used to live in Walnut Creek and Danville right up the valley fro mSFO
[02:05] <holstein> they sponsor them?
[02:05] <holstein> thats great
[02:05] <iceflatline> Cool. She's a grad from UC Davis
[02:07] <Ooberbuntu> Here in Akron we have a lot of tribute bands that shouldn't really be tribut bands and should be dong all of their own original stuff but we had a Jimmy Buffet tribut that actually came with Buffet's sax player.\
[02:07] <Ooberbuntu> We had the actuall 'Family Stone' reorganized group with 3 original member that were on the cover of 'Rolling Stones' mag
[02:07] <Ooberbuntu> A lota good talent.
[02:09] <Ooberbuntu> Sly didn't make it with the Family Stone
[02:10] <holstein> alright... GN all
[02:11] <Ooberbuntu> THat song 'Sender' still hasn't fully boffered. I need to build a nultra wif antenna. Our city here actually provide free access but am just a few blocks too far away.
[02:11] <iceflatline> night
[02:11] <Ooberbuntu> holstein: nice chattin
[02:12] <Ooberbuntu> holstein: Thanks for the link
[02:13] <Ooberbuntu> Have to use my other machine maybe.
[03:09] <k2k> hello :) my Ubuntu gets stuck at startup saying 'i915 driver attached: reenabling graphics turbo' what shall i do?
[03:12] <urlin2u> k2k, what release?
[03:13] <urlin2u> here is a really long thread but the same problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594981
[03:14] <Geocosm> How do I change my terminal to not be purple in Unity?
[03:14] <urlin2u> Geocosm, preferences top panel when the terminal is open
[03:14] <bodhizazen> Edit-> Profile preferences
[03:15] <Geocosm> I keep forgetting the menu options are in the panel. Thanks.
[03:15] <Geocosm> Unity is infuriating.
[03:16] <bodhizazen> It is "OK" on small monitors / netboot
[03:16] <bodhizazen> *netbook
[03:16] <bodhizazen> but on large monitors it is irritating
[03:16] <bodhizazen> on dual 1920x1200 it is hopeless
[03:17] <bodhizazen> Geocosm, sort of makes me appreciate fluxbox =)
[03:17] <Geocosm> I have a 20" monitor. The most irritating thing is when I click on a window and it's full screen and another window I was using goes under it.
[03:17] <Geocosm> There's no way to get that window back. Except to go into the super+a thing.
[03:17] <bodhizazen> http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/a-5-minute-guide-to-fluxbox/
[03:18] <Geocosm> or try to open the side panel, which is a joke. It opens on its own when I don't try to open it, and when I need to get at something in it, it won't open.
[03:18] <bodhizazen> windows key ?
[03:18] <bodhizazen> alt tab ?
[03:19] <Geocosm> Ooh alt tab. okay.
[03:19] <Geocosm> Unless it's on a different desktop.
[03:19] <Geocosm> And the windows key seems to have random behavior.
[03:19] <Geocosm> sometimes it opens the panel. Sometimes it closes the panel. Sometimes it opens the search thing. Sometimes it closes the search thing.
[03:20] <k2k> its 11.04...
[03:20] <k2k> 11.04
[03:22] <k2k> the problem is it doesnt even boot after saying that graphics turbo reenabled and just gets stuck there
[03:25] <philipballew> whats this guys problem?
[03:26] <k2k> Ubuntu is not booting up
[03:28] <philipballew> does your grub boot loader menu show up?
[03:29] <k2k> yeah
[03:29] <philipballew> what does recovery mode do
[03:29] <k2k> even it does the same thing
[03:30] <k2k> at first it says failed to get i915 symbols
[03:30] <philipballew> does it give you the menu where you can drop to like a root shell?
[03:30] <k2k> in recovery mode?
[03:32] <k2k> it shows the terminal in recovery mode
[03:37] <philipballew> and you can boot into the terminal?
[03:37] <k2k> yeah
[03:37] <philipballew> if you can do that it soulds k2k like your graphics drivers might have some problems
[03:37] <k2k> can i disable it somehow?
[03:38] <philipballew> is this a fresh install?
[03:38] <k2k> yes
[03:38] <philipballew> what graphics card do you have?
[03:39] <philipballew> and did it work in the live dc mode or did you use alterninite
[03:39] <philipballew> *cd
[03:39] <k2k> ATI Radeon 5470
[03:39] <k2k> sorry
[03:39] <k2k> but i installed it inside windows
[03:39] <k2k> its not a fresh installation
[03:39] <k2k> :(
[03:40] <bodhizazen> installed what inside windows ?
[03:40] <bodhizazen> Ubuntu ?
[03:40] <philipballew> wubi probably
[03:40] <bodhizazen> wubi ?
[03:40] <k2k> yeah WUBI
[03:40] <bodhizazen> wubi should not matter re radion driver
[03:40] <philipballew> well the same rulls still apply even in a chroot like enviorment
[03:41] <philipballew> he probably might wanna run jockey-text -l or whatever it is
[03:41] <bodhizazen> I don't think wubi is a chroot =)
[03:42] <philipballew> bodhizazen, its the same idea :)
[03:42] <philipballew> somewhat
[03:42] <bodhizazen> more a loop mount
[03:42] <bodhizazen> more like using a file, rather then a partition, for swap
[03:43] <k2k> shall i remove this installation and do a fresh installation?
[03:43] <philipballew> true
[03:43] <bodhizazen> no k2k , how would that help ?
[03:44] <k2k> i dont know.. I am still a beginner :(
[03:44] <philipballew> nothing would really change
[03:44] <k2k> i tried booting from the dvd itself
[03:44] <k2k> but it wouldnt
[03:44] <k2k> again says some error
[03:45] <philipballew> what error?
[03:45] <k2k> i dont know exactly :( it displays lot of text and then holds out
[03:45] <urlin2u> k2k, did you save that link I gave you?
[03:46] <k2k> yeah i did.. but that was a diff problem..
[03:46] <urlin2u> k2k, same exact error message are you sure?
[03:47] <urlin2u> I thought anyway
[03:47] <k2k> no not that one..
[03:47] <urlin2u> cool
[03:47] <bodhizazen> What version of Ubuntu ?
[03:47] <k2k> 11.04
[03:47] <bodhizazen> Try this : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide
[03:48] <Geocosm> I would like a way to see what windows I have open on my current viewport and swap to that window with a single mouse click. Why was this functionality taken away in Unity?
[03:48] <Geocosm> And is there a way to get a gnome2-like bottom panel in Unity?
[03:48] <Geocosm> I can't function without my bottom panel.
[03:48] <bodhizazen> k2k there are two ppa listed there, Ubuntu-X and Xorg-edgers
[03:49] <k2k> yeah i think that should fix my driver :)
[03:50] <k2k> @bodhizazen thanks :)
[03:50] <bodhizazen> k2k see also : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8972359&postcount=3
[03:52] <Geocosm> "Classic GNOME panel applets are not supported in Unity, only indicators" does this mean I can't create a bottom panel that shows all of my windows on my current viewport?
[03:53] <philipballew> darn video drivers
[05:29] <neil1> Does anyone know how to make the BBC Iplayer work with 11.04? I am using classic Gnome instead of Unity if that makes a difference.
[07:06] <benonsoftware> neil1: Where do you live?
[07:10] <benonsoftware> neil1: Also it needs Flash
[12:16] <tuxer> please help me in network installation of ubuntu
[13:23] <neil1> Sorry I did not reply earlier, I had to go to work. Many thanks to the person who answered my questions about installing BBC Iplayer on Ubuntu 11.04.
[17:53] <ecofriend> somebody please help: I have one strange problem. I have Ubuntu 10.04 and winx xp dual boot.  I am experiencing very very slow Internet connection from Ubuntu firefox and very fast net from win xp. Usually net was faster from ubuntu than windows. Note: I always update my ubuntu with update manager. i don't have any other web browser in ubuntu
[17:54] <holstein> ecofriend: you could try another web browser, but i would try rebooting into an older kernel
[17:55] <ecofriend> holstein: I tried to install the chromium. but net access is very slow.
[17:55] <holstein> with chromium?
[17:56] <ecofriend> holstein:  no.' ubuntu s/w center '
[17:56] <ecofriend> holstein:  i can't update and install new s/w into my ubuntu machine.
[17:57] <holstein> cant?
[17:57] <holstein> or its just too slow?
[17:57] <ecofriend> holstein:  sorry to say can't. it is very very slow.
[17:57] <holstein> anyways, reboot into an earlier kernel and test
[17:58] <ecofriend> holstein: ok thanks. i will try with that.
[18:01] <philipballew> could be his wifi driver holstein
[18:01] <holstein> i was assuming this was a new development
[18:01] <holstein> something that broke
[18:01] <holstein> i shouldnt assume :)
[18:01] <philipballew> might be a new laptop with a newer wifi card that has issues
[18:02] <philipballew> but probably not
[18:03] <holstein> nah, thats plausible
[18:03] <holstein> it was just that 10.04 is so old, and the 'i always update with...' comment that made me think this was something that had recently broken
[18:03] <urlin2u> a new computer with a newer wifi wouldn't be running running XP probably I vote ancient machine low ram and cpu.
[18:04] <holstein> maybe... XP comes on some fairly recent netbooks
[18:04] <philipballew> ahh. my bad
[18:04] <urlin2u> my acer as[ire 2 years ago did yeah.
[18:04] <philipballew> i see them still sometimes
[18:05] <urlin2u> aspire
[18:05] <philipballew> 7 is to resource hungry
[18:05] <holstein> philipballew: you're right... i shouldnt assume
[18:05] <philipballew> 8 beta comes out soon. im gonna test it so i know about it
[18:06] <philipballew> i want to see what the other guy is doing so i can tell people about it vs ubuntu
[18:07] <holstein> i have to say, the screenies look nice
[18:08] <philipballew> they do have a nice look lately. those xp hills are peaceful
[18:10] <philipballew> well off to a lunch date :)
[21:20] <CaseyPC> How can I enable "beam up" close window animations on Ubuntu 11.04?
[21:21] <CaseyPC> The effect is not in the list
[21:23] <urlin2u> in compiz
[21:23] <urlin2u> ?
[21:23] <CaseyPC> yes
[21:24] <CaseyPC> I guess there is an "animations addon" that needs to be checked, ut I can't find it anywhere.
[21:24] <urlin2u> It is in mine look in synaptic for th extra plugin packages
[21:24] <urlin2u> the*
[21:26] <urlin2u> CaseyPC, type compiz in the seareach and look for plugin, there is not a specific animations single plugin
[21:26] <urlin2u> for plugins*
[21:27] <CaseyPC> yep, I was missing the extra plugins package
[21:27] <urlin2u> cool
[21:28] <CaseyPC> thanks, that'll probably fix it
[21:28] <urlin2u> probably :D
[21:31] <CaseyPC> sweet, my windows can now catch fire
[21:37] <urlin2u> cough tetsdisk
[21:37] <urlin2u> testdisk*