| Sarvatt | SpamapS: d-i/source/netcfg/write_interface.c in ubiquity has some /etc/network/interfaces handling that might be what did it on my machines | 00:17 | 
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| Sarvatt | its too late here but i'll install a new machine tomorrow and see if /etc/network/interfaces has auto eth0 in it adding 2 minute boot time out of the box after a fresh install. i installed one of those boxes literally yesterday and did nothing more than install, boot, dist-upgrade and reboot to hit the extra 2 minute boot time and thats just crazy. | 00:24 | 
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| * ScottK pokes at SpamapS again. | 05:53 | |
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| slangasek | superm1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-great-cd-debate; mythbuntu is certainly free to pick a higher limit for their own CDs even if we aren't yet sure it's safe to raise the limit for Ubuntu | 10:03 | 
| slangasek | superm1: just send us a cdimage merge request :) | 10:03 | 
| shnatsel | infinity: you are marked as assignee for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-image-build-documentation , is there any development anticipated and is that blueprint even official? | 10:15 | 
| shnatsel | infinity: Ubuntu Studio, Ubuntu GNOME Remix and elementary project kinda need that | 10:18 | 
| shnatsel | although for Ubuntu Studio it's not critical, they can use Canonical's build farms after all. Being able to perform local testing would be great, though. | 10:20 | 
| bludude | infinity: Ubuntu GNOME Remix actually really needs that. We've had to go on an internet treasure hunt to find image build info. | 10:20 | 
| bludude | infinity: here's some of my work so far on digging up docs: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ugr-live/+spec/ugr-live-build | 10:30 | 
| shnatsel | but, according to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-live-build, Ubuntu's build systems are quite different from upstream, which are documented | 10:31 | 
| shnatsel | or at least require very different configs | 10:31 | 
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| bdrung | tumbleweed: which tools should be moved out of u-d-t? | 13:48 | 
| bdrung | pbuilder-dist, check-symbols, pull-*-source (?), merge-changelog (?), reverse-build-depends. more? | 13:49 | 
| Laney | do we need r-b-d when there's build-rdeps? | 13:50 | 
| bdrung | Laney: can you check if reverse-build-depends has no benefit over build-rdeps? | 13:51 | 
| Laney | r-b-d is a copy of build-rdeps with the debianisms replace with ubuntuisms | 13:52 | 
| bdrung | Laney: can b-r made universal (work for debian and ubuntu)? | 13:53 | 
| Laney | anything is possible | 13:53 | 
| Laney | build-rdeps | 171 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------- | 13:54 | 
| Laney | 1 file changed, 125 insertions(+), 46 deletions(-) | 13:54 | 
| tumbleweed | hrm, I always just grep-dctrl on my mirror. I should use these tools so that I know what they do :) | 13:58 | 
| bdrung | tumbleweed: "Upload the package to Ubuntu with dput as normal:" ? | 14:39 | 
| tumbleweed | :) | 14:39 | 
| bdrung | tumbleweed: i am currently refractoring sponsor-patch | 14:40 | 
| tumbleweed | bdrung: for this upload? | 14:40 | 
| bdrung | tumbleweed: i think yes | 14:40 | 
| bdrung | tumbleweed: but it could wait if you want to upload now | 14:40 | 
| bdrung | it's not urgent | 14:41 | 
| bdrung | tumbleweed: do you want to do an upload? | 14:41 | 
| tumbleweed | yeah, let's do it now, I'll do it | 14:41 | 
| tumbleweed | otherwise I'll start adding mirror support to pbuilder-dist, and I don't have time to finish that :) | 14:41 | 
| bdrung | tumbleweed: wait. i forgot to push one change | 14:42 | 
| bdrung | tumbleweed: pushed. you can release it now | 14:44 | 
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| bdrung | tumbleweed: did you upload the SRU packages? | 14:57 | 
| tumbleweed | bdrung: natty is blocked by the last SRU | 14:58 | 
| bdrung | tumbleweed: can you open a new bug for the pending publishing states? | 15:05 | 
| tumbleweed | oh damn I meant to investigate what the effect of not stating a publication state was | 15:07 | 
| tumbleweed | we don't, in some places | 15:07 | 
| tumbleweed | they appear to all be correct | 15:11 | 
| siretart | infinity: happen to be awake and around? | 16:25 | 
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| DelphiWorld | Hello Developers | 17:40 | 
| DelphiWorld | please could someone confirm that the ubuntu installer can by interactive through the serial port ? | 17:41 | 
| DelphiWorld | naba: hey Elisha:D | 17:44 | 
| sladen | DelphiWorld: this is how you install on Sparc and such | 17:46 | 
| DelphiWorld | sladen: W00T ! | 17:46 | 
| DelphiWorld | sladen: i can set up ubuntu server through console ? | 17:47 | 
| sladen | DelphiWorld: You need the alternate CD | 17:47 | 
| sladen | DelphiWorld: and I think console=ttyS0,9600 | 17:47 | 
| DelphiWorld | sladen: HMMM | 17:47 | 
| DelphiWorld | sladen: where can i get it from ? | 17:48 | 
| DelphiWorld | sladen: Thank you a lot. | 17:48 | 
| DelphiWorld | sladen: you solved my blindness issue | 17:48 | 
| ScottSanbar | May I ask why you want to use a console? | 17:49 | 
| DelphiWorld | ScottK: see my message abov :) | 17:49 | 
| DelphiWorld | ScottK: i am blind | 17:49 | 
| DelphiWorld | ScottK: and can't see the screen at all | 17:49 | 
| ScottSanbar | Oh, I see - I am going blind. I have Kerataconus. | 17:49 | 
| sladen | DelphiWorld: in theory Ubuntu is installable using a braille terminal. | 17:50 | 
| ScottSanbar | I see. Thanks. | 17:50 | 
| sladen | DelphiWorld: in addition, the installer has a speech synthesiser | 17:50 | 
| sladen | DelphiWorld: TheMuso is also blind, and will know the latest | 17:50 | 
| siretart | ScottSanbar: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/installation-guide/i386/install-methods.html might help you | 17:50 | 
| DelphiWorld | sladen: please talk in #ubuntu | 17:50 | 
| ScottSanbar | That is good to know, because I may need such things in the future | 17:51 | 
| ScottSanbar | OK, will do. | 17:51 | 
| ScottSanbar | Sorry. | 17:51 | 
| DelphiWorld | TheMuso: hey ! | 17:52 | 
| ScottSanbar | Hi - if we wish to talk further about this topic, we must move it to #ubuntu apparently | 17:53 | 
| DelphiWorld | ScottK: issue in #ubuntu is the traffic | 17:54 | 
| ScottSanbar | Alternatives? | 17:55 | 
| DelphiWorld | ScottK: lot of irc messages i mean | 17:56 | 
| DelphiWorld | sladen: where she's from, daniela ? | 17:56 | 
| ScottSanbar | Yes, I understaood what you meant, but thank for the clarification. I was wondering if there are any good alternatives to #ubuntu where we could move our discussion about the blindness issue, if we still wanted to talk about it. | 17:57 | 
| DelphiWorld | ScottK: ;) | 17:58 | 
| sladen | DelphiWorld: #ubuntu-accessibility | 18:00 | 
| ScottSanbar | Cool, thanks, I'll go there now and see if anyone follow. | 18:00 | 
| DelphiWorld | ScottK: :) | 18:01 | 
| ricotz | siretart, hello, did you have a look at the mplayer bluray fix? | 18:34 | 
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| * mneptok growls at 11.10 | 19:06 | |
| mneptok | get a new kernel, lvm and evms give warnings of being "unavailable" and boot time has gone to ~10 minutes | 19:07 | 
| superm1 | slangasek, ah. okay. thanks | 19:47 | 
| xperia | hello to all. quick question. i just builded and installed the clucene package from the ubuntu distro sources. but i total dont know how to start it at the moment. does anybody know how i can start clucene on my ubuntu mashine. if i do clucene nothing happen even all files are installed. readed i need to execute the command "indexer" but then i get the prompt to install other software that... | 19:55 | 
| xperia | ...include the programm indexer. | 19:55 | 
| bdrung | tumbleweed: sponsor-patch supports sync request. feel free to test it. | 21:00 | 
| tumbleweed | nice | 21:00 | 
| bdrung | tumbleweed: if syncpackage would have a module, it could use that module directly | 21:02 | 
| tumbleweed | yes, that's something we'll have to do | 21:03 | 
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| infinity | siretart: I may have been at an airport when you pinged. Or on an airplane. | 22:54 | 
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