[00:17] <Sarvatt> SpamapS: d-i/source/netcfg/write_interface.c in ubiquity has some /etc/network/interfaces handling that might be what did it on my machines
[00:24] <Sarvatt> its too late here but i'll install a new machine tomorrow and see if /etc/network/interfaces has auto eth0 in it adding 2 minute boot time out of the box after a fresh install. i installed one of those boxes literally yesterday and did nothing more than install, boot, dist-upgrade and reboot to hit the extra 2 minute boot time and thats just crazy.
[05:53]  * ScottK pokes at SpamapS again.
[10:03] <slangasek> superm1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-great-cd-debate; mythbuntu is certainly free to pick a higher limit for their own CDs even if we aren't yet sure it's safe to raise the limit for Ubuntu
[10:03] <slangasek> superm1: just send us a cdimage merge request :)
[10:15] <shnatsel> infinity: you are marked as assignee for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-image-build-documentation , is there any development anticipated and is that blueprint even official?
[10:18] <shnatsel> infinity: Ubuntu Studio, Ubuntu GNOME Remix and elementary project kinda need that
[10:20] <shnatsel> although for Ubuntu Studio it's not critical, they can use Canonical's build farms after all. Being able to perform local testing would be great, though.
[10:20] <bludude> infinity: Ubuntu GNOME Remix actually really needs that. We've had to go on an internet treasure hunt to find image build info.
[10:30] <bludude> infinity: here's some of my work so far on digging up docs: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ugr-live/+spec/ugr-live-build
[10:31] <shnatsel> but, according to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-live-build, Ubuntu's build systems are quite different from upstream, which are documented
[10:31] <shnatsel> or at least require very different configs
[13:48] <bdrung> tumbleweed: which tools should be moved out of u-d-t?
[13:49] <bdrung> pbuilder-dist, check-symbols, pull-*-source (?), merge-changelog (?), reverse-build-depends. more?
[13:50] <Laney> do we need r-b-d when there's build-rdeps?
[13:51] <bdrung> Laney: can you check if reverse-build-depends has no benefit over build-rdeps?
[13:52] <Laney> r-b-d is a copy of build-rdeps with the debianisms replace with ubuntuisms
[13:53] <bdrung> Laney: can b-r made universal (work for debian and ubuntu)?
[13:53] <Laney> anything is possible
[13:54] <Laney>  build-rdeps |  171 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------
[13:54] <Laney>  1 file changed, 125 insertions(+), 46 deletions(-)
[13:58] <tumbleweed> hrm, I always just grep-dctrl on my mirror. I should use these tools so that I know what they do :)
[14:39] <bdrung> tumbleweed: "Upload the package to Ubuntu with dput as normal:" ?
[14:39] <tumbleweed> :)
[14:40] <bdrung> tumbleweed: i am currently refractoring sponsor-patch
[14:40] <tumbleweed> bdrung: for this upload?
[14:40] <bdrung> tumbleweed: i think yes
[14:40] <bdrung> tumbleweed: but it could wait if you want to upload now
[14:41] <bdrung> it's not urgent
[14:41] <bdrung> tumbleweed: do you want to do an upload?
[14:41] <tumbleweed> yeah, let's do it now, I'll do it
[14:41] <tumbleweed> otherwise I'll start adding mirror support to pbuilder-dist, and I don't have time to finish that :)
[14:42] <bdrung> tumbleweed: wait. i forgot to push one change
[14:44] <bdrung> tumbleweed: pushed. you can release it now
[14:57] <bdrung> tumbleweed: did you upload the SRU packages?
[14:58] <tumbleweed> bdrung: natty is blocked by the last SRU
[15:05] <bdrung> tumbleweed: can you open a new bug for the pending publishing states?
[15:07] <tumbleweed> oh damn I meant to investigate what the effect of not stating a publication state was
[15:07] <tumbleweed> we don't, in some places
[15:11] <tumbleweed> they appear to all be correct
[16:25] <siretart> infinity: happen to be awake and around?
[17:40] <DelphiWorld> Hello Developers
[17:41] <DelphiWorld> please could someone confirm that the ubuntu installer can by interactive through the serial port ?
[17:44] <DelphiWorld> naba: hey Elisha:D
[17:46] <sladen> DelphiWorld: this is how you install on Sparc and such
[17:46] <DelphiWorld> sladen: W00T !
[17:47] <DelphiWorld> sladen: i can set up ubuntu server through console ?
[17:47] <sladen> DelphiWorld: You need the alternate CD
[17:47] <sladen> DelphiWorld: and I think  console=ttyS0,9600
[17:47] <DelphiWorld> sladen: HMMM
[17:48] <DelphiWorld> sladen: where can i get it from ?
[17:48] <DelphiWorld> sladen: Thank you a lot.
[17:48] <DelphiWorld> sladen: you solved my blindness issue
[17:49] <ScottSanbar> May I ask why you want to use a console?
[17:49] <DelphiWorld> ScottK: see my message abov :)
[17:49] <DelphiWorld> ScottK: i am blind
[17:49] <DelphiWorld> ScottK: and can't see the screen at all
[17:49] <ScottSanbar> Oh, I see - I am going blind.  I have Kerataconus.
[17:50] <sladen> DelphiWorld: in theory Ubuntu is installable using a braille terminal.
[17:50] <ScottSanbar> I see.  Thanks.
[17:50] <sladen> DelphiWorld: in addition, the installer has a speech synthesiser
[17:50] <sladen> DelphiWorld: TheMuso is also blind, and will know the latest
[17:50] <siretart> ScottSanbar: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/installation-guide/i386/install-methods.html might help you
[17:50] <DelphiWorld> sladen: please talk in #ubuntu
[17:51] <ScottSanbar> That is good to know, because I may need such things in the future
[17:51] <ScottSanbar> OK, will do.
[17:51] <ScottSanbar> Sorry.
[17:52] <DelphiWorld> TheMuso: hey !
[17:53] <ScottSanbar> Hi - if we wish to talk further about this topic, we must move it to #ubuntu apparently
[17:54] <DelphiWorld> ScottK: issue in #ubuntu is the traffic
[17:55] <ScottSanbar> Alternatives?
[17:56] <DelphiWorld> ScottK: lot of irc messages i mean
[17:56] <DelphiWorld> sladen: where she's from, daniela ?
[17:57] <ScottSanbar> Yes, I understaood what you meant, but thank for the clarification.  I was wondering if there are any good alternatives to #ubuntu where we could move our discussion about the blindness issue, if we still wanted to talk about it.
[17:58] <DelphiWorld> ScottK: ;)
[18:00] <sladen> DelphiWorld: #ubuntu-accessibility
[18:00] <ScottSanbar> Cool, thanks, I'll go there now and see if anyone follow.
[18:01] <DelphiWorld> ScottK: :)
[18:34] <ricotz> siretart, hello, did you have a look at the mplayer bluray fix?
[19:06]  * mneptok growls at 11.10
[19:07] <mneptok> get a new kernel, lvm and evms give warnings of being "unavailable" and boot time has gone to ~10 minutes
[19:47] <superm1> slangasek, ah.  okay.  thanks
[19:55] <xperia> hello to all. quick question. i just builded and installed the clucene package from the ubuntu distro sources. but i total dont know how to start it at the moment. does anybody know how i can start clucene on my ubuntu mashine. if i do clucene nothing happen even all files are installed. readed i need to execute the command "indexer" but then i get the prompt to install other software that...
[19:55] <xperia> ...include the programm indexer.
[21:00] <bdrung> tumbleweed: sponsor-patch supports sync request. feel free to test it.
[21:00] <tumbleweed> nice
[21:02] <bdrung> tumbleweed: if syncpackage would have a module, it could use that module directly
[21:03] <tumbleweed> yes, that's something we'll have to do
[22:54] <infinity> siretart: I may have been at an airport when you pinged.  Or on an airplane.