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jbern	Hi I have a question about 11.04 am I in the right place?	00:24
ionite	how do i purge kwallet service?	00:27
dvz	hello! anyone awake?	00:30
valorie	ionite: it's the weekend	00:30
ionite	valorie: ? puzzled.	00:30
valorie	I think if you look in .kde or .kde4, and drill down	00:31
valorie	you can find the database file for kwallet	00:31
valorie	like ~/.kde/share/kwallet*	00:31
valorie	kwalletrc maybe	00:31
valorie	you can look at the files and see which is the right one to expunge	00:32
dvz	valorie, could i take a little bit of your time for a few questions ? :-//	00:32
valorie	sure, I'll do my best	00:33
valorie	although we're leaving for dinner soon	00:33
dvz	sorry if i look dumb and can't get anything but i'm new to linux (<3 kubuntu)	00:33
dvz	i got a question about npviewer.bin which is eating my cpu ;/	00:34
dvz	i readed in a few forums that can be fixed with firefox, but what about if i use chromium ?	00:34
dvz	i use it because i can log in google plus and use video calls etc...	00:35
dvz	how could i fix this annoying process :/ even some time i need to restart chromium because my flash doesn't want to play anything	00:36
ionite	valorie: what's the command to purge wallet in terminal?	00:36
valorie	chromium will also log into G+ etc.	00:36
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valorie	and you can certainly try out rekonq	00:37
valorie	the standard KDE browser	00:37
valorie	I don't know about npviewer.bin, except that it locks up FF less than it used to forme	00:38
valorie	for me	00:38
valorie	let's see if there is a nugget from ubottu	00:38
valorie	!npviewer	00:38
valorie	no, let's try	00:38
valorie	!firefox	00:38
ubottu	firefox is the default web browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion \| To install plugins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins	00:38
valorie	heh	00:38
dvz	!rekonq	00:39
valorie	!info rekonq	00:39
ubottu	rekonq (source: rekonq): KDE web browser based on Webkit. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.0-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1698 kB, installed size 2880 kB	00:39
valorie	!info npviewer	00:39
ubottu	Package npviewer does not exist in natty	00:39
valorie	heh	00:39
valorie	you are right, ubottu	00:39
valorie	it's a process, not a package	00:39
dvz	btw, Xorg eats my cpu too	00:40
dvz	kxkxk	00:40
valorie	which version of Kub are you on?	00:41
valorie	latest, or LTS?	00:41
dvz	11.04 64 bit	00:42
valorie	same here	00:42
valorie	I have less problems now than ever before	00:43
dvz	its just so beautiful OS	00:43
valorie	also, I have a plugin that loads all my millions of tabs only when I click on them	00:43
dvz	i had a few issues with headphones etc but fixed them	00:44
dvz	just linux is perfect and a lot of people can support if they have the knowledge its such a big community and friendly	00:44
valorie	I agree	00:44
dvz	the bad is some programs like google talk are runnable from wine :[	00:45
dvz	no support for lin ;/	00:45
ionite	valorie: what's the command to purge wallet in terminal?	00:45
valorie	no idea, because I don't know the correct filename	00:46
valorie	!kwallet	00:46
ubottu	kwallet is a subsystem that provides a convenient and secure way to manage all your passwords. More information is available at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/kwallet	00:46
valorie	perhaps that will help	00:46
dvz	btw, i should use rekonq for browsing to fix this cpu heat ;/	00:47
dvz	right?	00:47
valorie	the more tabs you have in FF, the worse the problem	00:49
valorie	IMO	00:49
valorie	and rekonq does NOT have this problem, you are right	00:49
dvz	atm i have 3 tabs in chromium :D	00:49
valorie	ok, gotta go	00:53
dvz	thanks for the help :))	00:53
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ghostcart	Hello. Is someone here familiar with gettings windows applications to work under ubuntu?	02:44
bazhang	ghostcart, check the appdb and join #winehq	02:44
bazhang	!appdb \| ghostcart	02:44
ubottu	ghostcart: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help	02:44
ghostcart	ah, thank you	02:45
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akSeya	hi folks	04:36
akSeya	i'm running amarok here and it's wierd... it does not allow me to jump into the music	04:36
akSeya	you know?! skip some parts of the music.. I click on the music bar and nothing happens...	04:37
akSeya	am I missing some package or what?	04:37
akSeya	oh.. it's just some musics.. the one playing now is OK	04:38
akSeya	both are MP3	04:38
akSeya	i did a chmod 555 to some folders..	04:40
akSeya	could it be the problem?	04:40
valorie	akSeya: switch phonon-backend and see if that helps	05:15
valorie	do you know what you are using now?	05:15
akSeya	lemme check	05:16
akSeya	it's phonon already	05:16
valorie	Settings > configure Amarok > Playback > Configure phonon > backend	05:17
valorie	yes, but phonon uses xine, vlc or gstreamer as a backend	05:17
valorie	xine is deprecated	05:17
valorie	but still packaged by some distros	05:17
akSeya	i'm on kubuntu 11.04	05:18
akSeya	default configs	05:18
valorie	can't recall what they provide	05:18
akSeya	it's phonon	05:18
valorie	but both pvlc and pgst are available as packages	05:18
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valorie	as I said, phonon uses a backend	05:18
akSeya	hum	05:18
valorie	phonon-xine, phonon-vlc, or phonon-gstreamer	05:18
valorie	Settings > configure Amarok > Playback > Configure phonon > backend	05:18
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akSeya	i'm brazilian.. it's in portuguese system..	05:19
akSeya	i guess it's the "infraestrutura"... it says GStreamer	05:19
valorie	ok, can you switch to VLC?	05:19
valorie	is that available?	05:19
akSeya	there isn't such option	05:20
valorie	if not, download it from kubuntu	05:20
valorie	please	05:20
akSeya	vlc is installed... but it isn't on the amarok options..	05:21
akSeya	looking in kpackagekit dor something	05:21
akSeya	phonon=backend-vlc probably ;)	05:21
valorie	you will have to quit and restart Amarok	05:22
valorie	change it in systemsettings	05:22
valorie	that will save you a quit/restart	05:22
valorie	:-)	05:22
valorie	I just noticed we are in #kubuntu, not #amarok	05:23
akSeya	yeah :$	05:23
akSeya	i just thought this would be a better place ;)	05:24
valorie	systemsettings > multimedia > phonon	05:24
valorie	once it's installed	05:24
akSeya	it worked ;)	05:25
akSeya	thanks valorie	05:25
valorie	weeeeeeee!	05:26
akSeya	i remeber you.. you helped me some time ago.. and I talked to you as a little nerd talk to any girl... sorry about that ;)	05:27
akSeya	how is your husband going?	05:27
valorie	he's fine, why?	05:27
akSeya	just give him a hug	05:27
akSeya	he is very lucky to have a nerd girl ;)	05:28
valorie	OK	05:28
valorie	heh	05:28
akSeya	i have a daughter.. i wish he become a nerd	05:28
valorie	it's been awhile since I've been a "girl"	05:28
* valorie is a grandma		05:28
akSeya	congrats ;)	05:28
akSeya	my doughter's mother doesn't like computer very much	05:29
valorie	it's just a tool -- some people have need of it more than others	05:30
akSeya	you know.. i want her to like linux and be a nerd just like her father	05:30
akSeya	i wish she ask me "dad.. how do I compile the kernel to have something else"	05:31
akSeya	but she is just worried id that barbie movie will work	05:31
akSeya	i got VLC installed on her computer	05:32
akSeya	soon I will install kubuntu for her :D	05:32
akSeya	but first i need to get a fast internet connection to her	05:33
akSeya	her mother says that she worries cause internet can be dangerous	05:33
akSeya	¬¬	05:33
valorie	nice	05:33
valorie	well, certainly it can be	05:33
valorie	just like any tool	05:33
akSeya	it can.. but maybe with some iptables rules and openDNS nameserver...	05:34
akSeya	valorie, how old are you (sorry to ask that..)	05:34
valorie	that's off-topic, sorry	05:35
valorie	and personal	05:35
akSeya	no problem ;)	05:35
akSeya	i think.. my doughter is 9 years old	05:35
akSeya	i want her to be as curious with computers as I was with her age	05:35
akSeya	but times are different	05:35
akSeya	it is dangerous sometimes now..	05:36
akSeya	at my time internet was IRC and somekind secure.. you know?!	05:36
valorie	right, but information is good	05:36
valorie	kids with information are generally safe	05:37
akSeya	i want to give her freedom.. but with great powers came great responsabilities	05:37
akSeya	i think about giving her a full internet connection but some "keylogger" or something	05:37
akSeya	that I can know if she is doind the right choices	05:37
akSeya	but I don't think it's totally right	05:38
valorie	better to be there when she's using the Internet	05:38
valorie	keylogger seems sneaky	05:38
akSeya	I don't live with her	05:38
akSeya	=/	05:38
akSeya	i can't be always present	05:39
akSeya	and her mother is... complicated	05:39
akSeya	you know.. i talk to my daughter about everything	05:41
akSeya	i told her about sex... about guys and so on..	05:41
akSeya	and she tells me about he guys she likes	05:41
akSeya	we have a good relationship	05:41
akSeya	but internet can be dangerous....	05:42
akSeya	if I know what she is doing, I could talk to her.. like if I didn't know	05:42
akSeya	you know?!	05:42
akSeya	if I know what she is looking for, I can talk to her about that things....	05:43
valorie	I think you will destroy her trust if you install a keylogger	05:44
valorie	it would mine	05:44
akSeya	probably =/	05:44
akSeya	but.. can we trust our children?!	05:44
akSeya	i mean...	05:44
valorie	my basic stance with everyone is trust	05:44
akSeya	really.. her mother sucks...	05:44
valorie	once lost, though	05:44
valorie	please, this is too personal	05:45
akSeya	i know it is...	05:45
akSeya	but I don't care sharing it...	05:45
akSeya	i mean..	05:45
akSeya	no one will know who am I	05:45
valorie	I don't like listening to it	05:45
akSeya	who I am	05:45
akSeya	ok	05:45
valorie	the woman isn't here to defend herself	05:45
akSeya	sorry	05:46
akSeya	you've put yourself on her skin...	05:46
valorie	conversations, dialog is good	05:46
akSeya	yeah	05:47
valorie	trashing absent people is not good	05:47
akSeya	my fear is that my daughter can't handle what the internet can provide	05:48
akSeya	you are a grandma... you raise your children	05:48
valorie	well, discuss it with her	05:48
valorie	I did with my kids	05:48
akSeya	do you think some kind of monitoring is necessary?	05:49
akSeya	when I was a child I had freedom...	05:50
akSeya	but..	05:50
akSeya	I'm a nerd...	05:50
akSeya	all I searched for was knowledge	05:50
akSeya	about programming, new tools	05:50
valorie	I didn't monitor my kids	05:50
valorie	but I discussed things with them	05:51
akSeya	science	05:51
akSeya	hum	05:51
akSeya	my worst fear is that my kid record some video or take some nasty photo	05:52
akSeya	she may be in love with a fucking guy who does not fucking care abour her.. you know?!	05:52
akSeya	sorry.. i think I'm asking you something you cannot answer	05:53
akSeya	i just want some opinion.. you know?!	05:53
akSeya	I can't talk to my ex wife about this things	05:54
valorie	so be honest with your fears	05:54
akSeya	the has such a closed mind	05:55
akSeya	s/the/she	05:55
valorie	find a news article about the dangers of sexting or something	05:55
valorie	and ask her about it	05:55
valorie	if her friends do things like that	05:55
Snowhog	valorie: Please take this offline - this is a Kubuntu support IRC channel, not a personal channel.	05:55
akSeya	sorry Snowhog	05:56
valorie	thanks snowhog	05:56
akSeya	it's my fault	05:56
valorie	I don't want to continue the conversation	05:56
akSeya	valorie, thanks for your advices anyway	05:56
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amichair	will kde 4.7.1 be available in kubuntu ppa?	06:52
SilentDis	amichair: they always are, eventually. I'm on 4.7.0 right now myself. usually lags behind 1-4 weeks, from what i've seen.	06:54
amichair	ok. I remembered the minor updates to be availbale much quicker, but I may have remembered wrong.	06:55
SilentDis	amichair: I've always found packagers and coders in general are best treated like dragons. You do not meddle in their affairs, for you are crunchy and go well with ketchup ;)	06:58
amichair	SilentDis: also the kde info page for 4.7.1 says kubuntu packages are available for 11.04 and Oneiric, with a link (which doesn't mention them at all). Got me confused.	07:05
SilentDis	amichair: I tend to live in confusion most of my life. but, then again, that's because you crazy humans are so damn unpredictable ;)	07:06
amichair	or rather, Predictably Irraltional™	07:07
SilentDis	also, I just installed CyanogenMod 7 on my HTC Evo, and the tip of "iPhone: You're Holding it wrong. Always." made me laugh out loud.	07:09
Snowhog	amichair: One must always bear in mind, that 'development' releases of KDE associated with a 'development OS' release (Oneiric) wont (necessarily) be made available for the current OS version. If it will be, it will be.	07:15
amichair	what do u call a 'development' release? They consider it just a 'release', or 'monthly stabilization update'	07:17
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DaemonFC	a monthly KDE release is just a point release	07:22
DaemonFC	bug fix release	07:22
DaemonFC	they call it "monthly stabilization release"	07:22
DaemonFC	I guess it all means the same thing :)	07:22
Snowhog	amichair: Well, "normally", the version of KDE that is in use with a development release of Kubuntu, is it self (in my vernacular), in development, which is why it isn't available via the non-developmental repositories.	07:23
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valorie	!info natty	07:57
ubottu	Package natty does not exist in natty	07:57
valorie	haha	07:57
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softexpert	hello everyone! does someone know if this is the right place to ask about network-manager-openvpn ?	08:02
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softexpert	in case someone knows something about it: it needs to be updated to 0.9 version so that openvpn could work ...	08:20
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Gallo	morn all	08:56
Gallo	can someone help with wierless set up on bt?	08:56
Gallo	"iwconfig wlan0 essid "<name_of_router>" key "<encryption_key>" gives me error for wireless request " Set Encode" (8ba2)	08:59
Gallo	anyone, please......lol noob at linux	08:59
Gallo	heh, thnx anyways	09:04
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stoyan4aluck	why skype has no mic on 11.04!?!?!?!? I tryed everything and nothing. Ekiga and all other aplications work but Skype	10:10
amichair	stoyan4aluck: I've had various troubles with skype, and all were fixed when I removed pulseaudio and just enabled the mic and capture devices on kmix manually...	10:12
stoyan4aluck	amichair: if you removed the pulseaudio what did you instal and how did you config	10:14
stoyan4aluck	amichair: or you just uninstalled the puls audio!?!?!	10:15
amichair	stoyan4aluck: I just ran 'sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio' and then rebooted. On KMix (the little speaker icon on the panel) you can configure which channels it shows in the settings - I made sure the mic and capture are shown, and then in the mixer made sure they are enabled and volume is good	10:15
amichair	I don't remember whether I had to change anything in skype's audio device setup or it used the defaults properly	10:16
stoyan4aluck	amichair: did you have the same proble I have now???	10:17
amichair	I had either mic not working at all, or others whom I talk to over skype complaining about various echos and noises	10:18
amichair	I don't know if this is the same as your trouble... just offering an option for what worked for me :-)	10:18
stoyan4aluck	amichair: good I'll try and tell you later:D	10:19
amichair	(and you can always re-install pulseaudio if it doesn't help)	10:19
stoyan4aluck	what about the other aplications will they work prop	10:20
stoyan4aluck	well Iwil try it	10:20
amichair	I don't necessarily use all the ones you do, but I can say I've never had a problem with any other app	10:21
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stoyan4aluck	amichair: see you in a minute, restarting	10:24
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stoyan4aluck	amichair: now I have prob with the playback	10:34
amichair	stoyan4aluck: in all apps or just skype? did u set the kmix mute/volume levels?	10:35
stoyan4aluck	amichair: just skype	10:39
stoyan4aluck	yeas I did the Kmix	10:39
amichair	did u check the skype audio device setup?	10:41
stoyan4aluck	man what do you think an I stuped!?!?!? It fucking doesn't work	10:45
stoyan4aluck	no playback	10:45
stoyan4aluck	amichair: I tryed the sistem setings and kmix	10:46
stoyan4aluck	at sistem seting there are only two options avelable hda intel, the sound card, and default	10:48
amichair	not system settings, skype audio device settings	10:50
stoyan4aluck	at skype it shows only hdmi (unknown)!?!?!?	10:52
stoyan4aluck	as a playback	10:52
stoyan4aluck	thi mic I have it	10:52
amichair	mine is set to "Default device (default)", but also has many manual options	10:54
amichair	and in system settings, the default device is set to the correct analog output	10:54
amichair	but ur hardware is different, so I'm not sure what it should be	10:54
amichair	sorry	10:54
stoyan4aluck	may be is the sound card, uh	10:55
stoyan4aluck	it's a laptop	10:55
stoyan4aluck	on 10.04 I have it out of box	10:56
stoyan4aluck	here is the prob	10:56
oceantype	hello, I want to know if a key of my keyboard is set and what the setting is and if it has no setting I would like to know how I can give a setting to a certain key?	11:07
transformers	юю	11:21
fla	hola	11:21
transformers	привет как я могу сохранить закладки которые использую в браузере reconq ?	11:22
transformers	help please	11:22
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transformers	i need save in 1 file bookmarks of rekonq	11:25
transformers	how ?	11:26
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transformers	answer please : plaonlinux workin in kubuntu 64 bit or not ?	11:47
transformers	playOnLinux	11:47
Graf_Westerholt	transformers, I do not know playOnLinux, but I just read something about it and there is nothing that says that it would not run on 64 Bit.	11:50
BluesKaj	Howdy all	11:51
Graf_Westerholt	Hi, BluesKaj.	11:51
BluesKaj	hi Graf_Westerholt	11:51
transformers	if we in google write plaonlinux (for windows games) we have only 35 files with mark x86	11:52
transformers	i think is bad	11:52
Graf_Westerholt	transformers, english version of Google?	11:53
transformers	for example program Guitar Pro 6 for guitarist not running in 64 bit versions kubuntu or ubuntu 64 bit	11:53
transformers	russian	11:54
Graf_Westerholt	I do not understand russian ;)	11:54
BluesKaj	transformers, PlayOnLinux is just a front-end for wine.	11:54
transformers	use google translater	11:54
transformers	wine not help me for rin windows game	11:54
Graf_Westerholt	Wine is for Windows Games.	11:55
transformers	only play on linux (with wine inside)	11:55
BluesKaj	!ru \| transformers	11:55
ubottu	transformers: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. \| Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.	11:55
transformers	)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))	11:55
transformers	i speak english )))))))) learn in school	11:56
Graf_Westerholt	transformers you do not need PlayOnLinux to run your windows applications.	11:56
transformers	how can i use wine for games?	11:56
Graf_Westerholt	transformers Just install wine and run the game.	11:57
transformers	wine always write me : exe file ? error	11:57
transformers	i try it no resoult	11:57
transformers	no effect	11:57
Graf_Westerholt	So that is your problem, transformers. You should post the exact error message.	11:58
transformers	give me please holland site of wine please	11:58
Graf_Westerholt	Sorry, transformers?	11:58
BluesKaj	you have to configure wine to include the game's .exe files	11:58
transformers	how i don`t learn configure wine	11:59
BluesKaj	!winw	11:59
BluesKaj	!wine	11:59
ubottu	WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu	11:59
transformers	i know but no workink!!!!!!!!!1	11:59
transformers	let talk about x86 .deb programs	12:00
transformers	in kubuntu x64	12:00
BluesKaj	transformers, join #winehq, they know more about windows games in linux	12:00
transformers	ok i try in thanks	12:00
transformers	try it	12:01
transformers	#winehq is a chanell like IRC ?	12:02
BluesKaj	YES	12:03
transformers	in last year i was install 80 ubuntu on russian computers for friend`s and clients	12:03
* BluesKaj searches for caps lock defeat		12:03
transformers	BluesKaj did you play on guitar in kubuntu ? i yes))))))))))	12:04
BluesKaj	just click on this transformers , #winehq	12:04
transformers	thanks for help	12:04
BluesKaj	transformers, no	12:04
transformers	ok i wanna change 32-bit to 64 bit	12:04
BluesKaj	reinstall	12:05
transformers	after i use your help	12:05
transformers	yas	12:05
transformers	yeah	12:05
transformers	i write all your words thank you	12:05
BluesKaj	there's no way to change, but you make sure multiarch is installed and enabled	12:06
transformers	1 quastion more	12:06
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transformers	on HDD how much Gigabites kubuntu 11/04 after downloads	12:07
transformers	i think 20 Gb	12:07
transformers	my client wants save windows and + kubuntu	12:08
transformers	but hard drive is full 5 Gb on c:/ and 6.3Gb on d:/	12:08
James147	transformers: kubuntu only exands to about 3gigs, though its best to have 10-20 gigs if you want to actually use it	12:10
xvopx	hey guys, can someone help me with a problem in kubuntu?	12:12
James147	!help \| xvopx	12:12
ubottu	xvopx: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	12:12
BluesKaj	transformers, if he wants to store data, or media then he may need more than 20G	12:12
transformers	wow	12:13
transformers	another way	12:13
* James147 also notes that filesystem behave horribally when that full ^^		12:13
transformers	get wibu file ubuntu	12:13
transformers	run win	12:13
transformers	unstall not ubuntu	12:13
transformers	use wibu for kubuntu installation	12:14
xvopx	I installed Virtual Box on my new Notebook, Host is Win7... I took a ready 2 use virtual box image from kubuntu 11.04 and set everything up. it works great, but i can't view mkv and some other videoformats. I installed the guest extensions and vlc player, but maybe I need some codecs.. can someone help me?	12:14
transformers	Kde desktop plasma already inside or not?	12:14
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James147	xvopx: install kubuntu-restricted-extras	12:15
Graf_Westerholt	!codecs \| xvopx	12:15
ubottu	xvopx: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	12:15
transformers	kubuntu11.04 standart withiout KDE plasma or have inside ?	12:17
BluesKaj	xvopx, if you want a real working linux install, it's best to dual boot ...VMs are ok , but they don't do liinux really well	12:17
James147	BluesKaj: they do linux as well as anyother os ^^	12:17
transformers	i wait answer	12:18
transformers	please help	12:18
James147	transformers: kubuntu comes with plasma by default	12:18
transformers	super!!!!!!!!!	12:18
transformers	hi James147	12:18
transformers	5Gb if i use in wibu file	12:19
transformers	kubuntu working ?security	12:19
xvopx	BluesKaj: I know, but I want several Machines at ones. one for business stuff, one for internet stuff and media and the main system as a save space with some powerneeding programs. no need for a dual boot, i need to switch often :D	12:20
stoyan4aluck	transformers: if your client's computer has such hardware you may not have the plasma working, :D	12:20
transformers	i crying	12:20
stoyan4aluck	tell your client to buy a computer бляд	12:20
transformers	my tears destroy my notebook	12:21
transformers	здесь нельзя ругатья матом	12:21
stoyan4aluck	jocking	12:21
transformers	у него хороший компьютер с 750 Gb	12:21
stoyan4aluck	transformers: just check the video card	12:22
transformers	i think video card is well for 300 euro	12:22
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BluesKaj	James147, well , you're entitled to your opinion , but experience with VMs are different , obviously and I avoid them . A work environment is different of course .	12:23
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transformers	thanks guys)) i wanna get out ))))))) reinstall 32-bit kubuntu on 64 bit	12:24
BluesKaj	transformers,?	12:24
transformers	for why ? my proccessor core 2 duo only 64 bit	12:25
transformers	and yesterday reconq was crash in 32-bit 15 times. Today stop working destop effects	12:26
James147	BluesKaj: it depends on what you need them for... they are greate for everything except graphics processing ^^	12:26
stoyan4aluck	transformers: I recomend you to try the LTS 10.04	12:27
transformers	no///////old system////	12:27
stoyan4aluck	11.04 is not yet stable:D go for it	12:27
transformers	i like KDE cos i web disigner	12:28
stoyan4aluck	I have problem with the sound in skype	12:28
transformers	my new web site for kubuntu did you see ?	12:28
transformers	skype is old program	12:28
transformers	in kubuntu have another video client	12:29
stoyan4aluck	transformers: you sound funny:D	12:29
BluesKaj	transformers, skype runs well here , and it's not an old app	12:29
transformers	please see my web site with sexual girl Gloria abuut kubuntu http://kubuntu-11-10.narod.ru fr	12:30
transformers	i moderator and disign	12:30
transformers	i wanna work with Swiss team Loco in kubuntu project but in week-end they do not send answer or e-mail to me	12:32
stoyan4aluck	BluesKaj: can you help or just go back to LTS	12:33
transformers	what are we waiting in KUBUNTU 11.10 who knows ?	12:35
BluesKaj	stoyan4aluck, i have to ask if you've setup alsamixer and pulseaudio fpr skype ?	12:36
BluesKaj	alsamixer	12:36
Graf_Westerholt	transformers, the Beta for Kubuntu 11.10 is out, you can test it.	12:37
transformers	for correct work skype del skype..........reunstall skype and all files with skype seach	12:37
transformers	i do no find 11.10	12:38
stoyan4aluck	BluesKaj: I've been trying all stuff from forums and so on, yeas I did install it	12:38
BluesKaj	stoyan4aluck, which skype version did you install ?	12:38
transformers	if your have problem with guitar program Rakarrack writing me ! i found compromiss	12:39
stoyan4aluck	transformers: yeah go for 11.10	12:39
Graf_Westerholt	transformers https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Beta1/Kubuntu	12:39
transformers	fear )))))))))	12:39
transformers	i have only 1 computer	12:40
stoyan4aluck	BluesKajI tryed the official and old like 2.0 and 2.1	12:40
stoyan4aluck	transformers: you won't have it for long if you try like that:D	12:41
stoyan4aluck	BluesKaj: I tryed the official and old like 2.0 and 2.1	12:42
stoyan4aluck	I enen tryird to uninstall pulse audio and install esound	12:43
transformers	say me about my site kbuntu please	12:45
stoyan4aluck	BluesKaj: I even tryed to install esound:(	12:45
transformers	pretty?	12:45
BluesKaj	stoyan4aluck, skype can work without pulseaudio , but it's easier if you use pulseaudio with pavucontrol . Have you tried that ?	12:45
BluesKaj	transformers, pls don't promote your site here , or the ops might ban you :P	12:46
stoyan4aluck	BluesKaj: Yes I did	12:46
transformers	ubuntu one in kubuntu ..where ?	12:46
stoyan4aluck	it may be the camera suport	12:47
Graf_Westerholt	The site is just a picture.	12:47
transformers	they not bun me	12:47
transformers	never	12:47
transformers	picture with desktop kubuntu in down line each photo	12:47
BluesKaj	Graf_Westerholt, no matter , it's not up to me anyway, but he should be warned	12:48
stoyan4aluck	BluesKaj: it may be the camera suport	12:48
transformers	ubuntu one where find in kubuntu ? who knows?	12:48
BluesKaj	stoyan4aluck, perhaps , I have no skype experience with a camera on Linux...I'm strictly audio	12:49
stoyan4aluck	BluesKaj: I am sure if I put a mic it will work but it isn't confortable to stick it in a laptop	12:50
transformers	Why in Russia not love Linux ? i don`t understand this fact . Now i never says Linux for clients . I say`s KDE or Kuntu	12:50
Mamarok	could we please stay on topic here?	12:51
BluesKaj	stoyan4aluck, no built in mic ?	12:51
stoyan4aluck	transformers: do you charge for installation of Ubuntu, uh!?!?	12:51
transformers	i wanna eat.......later	12:52
Mamarok	transformers: for discussions please join #kubuntu-offtopic, this here is only for support, you were told that before	12:52
Mamarok	stoyan4aluck: same for you, please stay on topic	12:52
stoyan4aluck	BluesKaj: model 2007 a cheap one no mic build in	12:52
transformers	ok	12:52
BluesKaj	stoyan4aluck, right	12:53
transformers	Mamarok you are tread KUBUNU and Ubuntu phylosofy	12:53
BluesKaj	BBL, have to leave for a while	12:54
Mamarok	transformers: pease behave, no advertising in this channel, you were warned before, I will not repeat it	12:54
Mamarok	please*	12:54
Mamarok	or that	12:54
stoyan4aluck	Mamarok: I am not advertising but asking a real problem with skype working and pissed off 11.04. My mic doesn't work! Help me if you can!	12:58
Mamarok	stoyan4aluck: this was not abut you, I only asked you to stay on topic	12:59
dvz	Hi! I have a problem with Xorg :( its eating my CPU like hell ;-// could anyone help me out ?	12:59
stoyan4aluck	Mamarok: it seams nobody can help with the sound, uh!	13:00
Mamarok	stoyan4aluck: I don't use Skype, nad its Linux support is not exactly good	13:01
Mamarok	and*	13:01
GoodNICK	hello all	13:01
dvz	stoyan4aluck, what is your problem with the sound?	13:04
stoyan4aluck	dvz: I tried everithing, it seams is the camera but on 10.04 works out of box	13:13
dvz	it doesnt starts up your camera?	13:13
dvz	desktop or laptop machine?	13:13
stoyan4aluck	dvz: I have video but I can't do anything to start the mic	13:14
dvz	desktop machine or laptop?	13:14
stoyan4aluck	dvz: laptop	13:14
dvz	hm i'm on kubuntu 11.04 and my mic works perfectly	13:15
dvz	are u sure u haven't muted it?	13:15
stoyan4aluck	dvz: man I am not using ubuntu fro yesterday, uh	13:15
dvz	ubuntu or kubuntu?	13:16
stoyan4aluck	well Kubuntu, does it make difference!?!?	13:16
dvz	its the same doh, well probably u miss some driver or settings ?	13:16
stoyan4aluck	dvz: say	13:16
dvz	only for the graphic :>	13:16
stoyan4aluck	dvz: well the plasma doesn't work as well	13:17
stoyan4aluck	but I didn't try to fix it	13:17
stoyan4aluck	dvz: I may go to 10.04 till 110.4 gets better or just stick to LTS	13:19
dvz	i kinda loved plasma but this problem with the high cpu is annoying	13:21
stoyan4aluck	dvz: !?!? say more	13:21
dvz	its doing the same when i play videos from the popular online sites	13:21
stoyan4aluck	dvz: tell me more!	13:21
BluesKaj	dvz, which kde version ?	13:21
dvz	or if i run net beans, java is on 5-6% of cpu usage and xorg is like 40-45%...	13:22
dvz	sec	13:22
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stoyan4aluck	BluesKaj: it's indeed the official if it's 11.04	13:24
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dvz	KDE 4.5	13:27
BluesKaj	dvz, kde3 4.5 on 11.04 , if so then it seems you to update , upgrade then dist-upgrade	13:29
BluesKaj	err kde 4.5	13:29
dvz	dvz@dVz:~$ kde-config --version \| grep KDE	13:30
dvz	KDE: 3.5.10	13:30
dvz	BluesKaj,	13:30
dvz	:>	13:30
FloodBotK2	dvz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	13:31
FloodBotK1	dvz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	13:31
dvz	hmm i'm going to check how to update my kde..	13:32
BluesKaj	dvz , which kubuntu , lsb_release -a	13:32
dvz	release 11.04, natty	13:33
James147	dvz: kde4-config if you also have kde 4 ^^ :)	13:33
dvz	nothing happens ;/	13:34
BluesKaj	dvz, dpkg -l\|grep kde4 ...3.5 doesn't look right to me	13:35
James147	"kde4-config --version" that is	13:35
dvz	KDE Development Platform: 4.6.2 (4.6.2)	13:35
James147	BluesKaj: it looks fine, since kde-config looks for the kde3 version of the libs if they are installed	13:35
James147	BluesKaj: kde4-config looks for the kde4 ones...	13:36
James147	since you can have them both installed	13:36
dvz	i was thinking that this xorg cpu usage could be from my video card... i read something about it i could need to configure it, but i dont have any idea how would that happen	13:37
James147	what graphics card?	13:37
dvz	VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650]	13:37
BluesKaj	James147, I assume ppl running 11.04 have kde4 as the default desktop environment	13:41
dvz	BluesKaj, yes, it is by default	13:41
James147	BluesKaj: dosnt matter, they can still have kde3libs, and thus kde-config --version will show kde3.X if its installed	13:41
James147	!ATI \| dvz	13:42
ubottu	dvz: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto	13:42
BluesKaj	James147, it was a command I dreamed up assuming kde4 was the default :)	13:42
James147	BluesKaj: yeah :) just have to remember kde4-config for kde4 :D at least untill kde3 is completely removed	13:43
BluesKaj	radeon hd 4650 , dvz , fglrx driver ?	13:43
dvz	Mobility Radeon HD 4650=> yes, i have installed some driver but not sure what is fglrx?	13:44
dvz	its auto detecting my card as i read the forums	13:45
BluesKaj	dvz, fglrx is aka ATI Catalyst Linux	13:46
ionite	how do i purge Kwallet in kde? what command do i type in terminal?	13:46
dvz	BluesKaj, i just checked info on fglrx and pasted to you in query	13:47
BluesKaj	yes dvz , check additional drivers in kmenu>system , maybe ther's arecommended driver that should be installed.	13:48
dvz	and it is installed	13:49
dvz	://	13:49
ionite	BluesKaj: hi. what command do i type to purge kwallet in terminal?	13:50
BluesKaj	ionite, sudo apt-get purge kwalletmanager	13:51
ionite	BluesKaj: so kind of u. thanks!!!	13:52
dvz	hmm if its not from the driver, what could it be :/	13:54
BluesKaj	dvz, open system monitor and look at the process table to see what' eating cpu / memory	13:55
dvz	BluesKaj, isn#t system monitor doing the same? in system monitor for xorg i get root - 26% of cpu, 70k memory	14:01
dvz	shared is around 150k	14:01
BluesKaj	dvz, it could be a rogue app , that why i suggested system monitor process table.	14:03
dvz	else, httpd is eating a lot of memory too... i see lot of apps named httpd..	14:04
dvz	with a username - nobody	14:05
dvz	other process which are eating are skype, chromium, chat, kwin, plasma desktop..	14:05
BluesKaj	anything above 25-30% ?	14:06
BluesKaj	unless it's media	14:06
dvz	all are bellow 10% of cpu usage exept xorg when i play some media..	14:07
dvz	if i disable desktop effects xorg is alright, when i start netbeans my java is runing on 80% cpu usage..	14:09
ionite	BluesKaj: how do i edit my lib sane files in GUI? What do i type in terminal>	14:14
dvz	BluesKaj, i disabled nepomuk and my cpu is good now :-))	14:18
BluesKaj	ionite, what do you want use ? gui or terminal	14:18
ionite	BluesKaj: gui	14:18
BluesKaj	dvz, ahhh , i should have thought of that ..nepomuk , the worst pita kubuntu ever dreamed up which can't be deleted ..fugly app IMO.	14:19
BluesKaj	useless to most home users	14:19
dvz	:-DD i'm kinda sad i won't use my desktop effects but what the hell :)	14:19
dvz	btw, google chrome or google chromium ?	14:22
OerHeks	dvz chromium comes without build-in flash & indentification-number. my choice.	14:25
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dvz	and no - no scripts	14:25
dvz	:/	14:25
BluesKaj	'chromium-browser is probly best for linux , altho the fonts on the bookmarks bar and toolbars are unreadable on large monitors like a tv	14:26
BluesKaj	I like chromium alot but I have to run FF to make the toolbars etc, readable	14:27
BluesKaj	google is too independent and proprietary IMO , chromium doesn't integrate well with kde / system settings	14:28
dvz	btw BluesKaj , which is the best player for music? atm i'm using audacius	14:47
six86	Hi. Any News on kopete not giving any notification?	14:47
BluesKaj	!best \| dvz	14:47
ubottu	dvz: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.	14:47
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BluesKaj	dvz, I didn't mean to lecture you , but it's a matter of taste ...I use VLC , simple interface up front .but bery configurable if you take the time to learn it's options	14:49
dvz	the bot doesn't understand me :D	14:49
dvz	but like performance requirements ?	14:50
BluesKaj	audio doesn't require a lot of computer power , dvz performance requirements aren't a problem with 99.9% of pcs these days	14:51
dvz	thanks a lot BluesKaj :)	14:52
BluesKaj	dvz, np ...some ppl like amarok too	14:53
saturn_2011	hey, someone here who has disabled plymouth boot screen ?	14:55
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BluesKaj	saturn_2011, why do you ask ?	14:58
six86	Can someone confirm kopete notification problems?	15:00
saturn_2011	Because I try to disable plymouth-splash screen ( already removed boot parameters ) but still get black screen a long time until boot messages appear for 1-2 seconds and I'm not short if it is still Plymouth or framebuffer	15:00
avihay	dvz: I've kind of been bitten by amarok too many times. used to use qmmp, with the classical winamp2 skin, but it stopped working, also had a relatively high CPU requirements, shame because it started to get nice features. I now use audacious. I'm guessing that what bothers you is the hotkeys	15:01
surgeon73	кто-нибудь обновил xperia neo до последней прошивки?	15:01
dvz	avihay, no, just if i set up some effects my cpu of using the process audacious from 3% goes like 7-8% ;/	15:04
avihay	dvz: well, that doesn't sound out of the ordinary to me. maybe audacious's effects aren't optimized... you might want to try XMMS2, or, to be more exact, one of it's GUI front ends, other then that, VLC should be efficient too, but I think it doesn't handle large playlists well.	15:19
dvz	i didn't mention i like different music,from house to soft rock or hard rock groups => large playlists :/	15:20
dvz	avihay, i changed it to winamp look and the cpu went low xD	15:24
TheLastProject	Ah, music player discussion?	15:24
* TheLastProject listens o,o		15:24
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avihay	you might want to disable the visualisation	15:26
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dvz	hmm,, why?	15:26
BluesKaj	to me playlists are nothing but pita ...I just got to the file want to play in , vlc file association is set up to play all media types on my pc , simple a quick and no fooling around trying play DJ ... I used to be a DJ so i know what's involved and playlists are for background music IMO :)	15:28
avihay	more CPU for other stuff, after all, how much do you stare at your media-player? by visualization I mean the small bar graph under the time	15:28
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avihay	I have one large playlist with everything on it. I don't get the amarock approach to playlists. or a DJ's approach to playlists, though I can venture a few guesses.	15:37
jony	I'm looking for nice window decoration themes for kubuntu 11.04	15:44
jony	any suggestions?	15:44
tranformers	gopd evening	15:59
tranformers	good	15:59
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frane	Hi people	16:30
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frane	what's the langage used in here?	16:31
TheLastProject	English, I would say	16:31
frane	ok	16:32
frane	is it the right chan for questions about unbuntu?	16:32
Mamarok	frane: no, this is abut Kubuntu, for Ubuntu you should go to #ubuntu	16:33
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frane	so that's ok, i use kubuntu	16:34
TheLastProject	The difference is minimal, except that KDE doesn't believe that removing the minimize and maximize button is a good idea, unlike GNOME :P	16:34
TheLastProject	(Though I guess I shouldn't cause an anti-GNOME wave here, seeing as the standard Ubuntu version uses Unity IIRC	16:35
TheLastProject	)	16:35
Mamarok	especially not since this is totally off topic :)	16:36
frane	my question is quite simple, I'm currently in denmark, and there's no way i can see rugby world cup here. So I would connect to UK tv channels, and of course my IP being Danish, I can't, so I would emulate an IP in UK, and dunno how to with this OS (I know with the win)	16:36
TheLastProject	Hey! XD	16:36
TheLastProject	Is it a website you have to use? In those cases a simple google search for "uk proxy" should do o,o	16:37
frane	that's an idea, let's do that, thx	16:37
TheLastProject	Question: Does anybody here know how to control Banshee with the "next song" etc options on the roccat open source driver? Or possibly another music player that can do that? I believe it works similar to keyboard buttons.	16:42
dvz	what the f is npviewer.bin and why is it on 20% of cpu? :S	17:08
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Snowhog	dvz: Google on "npviewer.bin" (no quotes) and you'll get all sorts of info on this.	18:03
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alien260	Hi everyone, Anyone here have experience getting ssh key loaded into ssh-agent? I tried to load them using ssh-add but I am getting the message 'Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.'	18:22
BluesKaj	alien260, install keychain	18:25
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alien260	BluesKaj: Already have it installed, is there something specific that I have missed to load the key into the active agent session?	18:30
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BluesKaj	alien260, checkout "14.10.7 ssh-agent and ssh-add" here , http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/openssh.html	18:33
salfumant	vaya, pues no se parece ni de coña al mIRC	18:41
BluesKaj	!es \| salfumant	18:42
ubottu	salfumant: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.	18:42
BluesKaj	!pt \| salfumant	18:42
ubottu	salfumant: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.	18:42
BluesKaj	cover all the bases :)	18:43
TheLastProject	XD	18:43
salfumant	Thanks___GOoooo	18:43
TheLastProject	Couldn't you have used Google Translate to detect the language? :P	18:43
Snowhog	TheLastProject: This is an English version of #kubuntu. There are companion #kubuntu channels for other languages.	18:46
TheLastProject	I know, but that wasn't my point	18:46
TheLastProject	My point was that a Google Translate would've required him to only use the bot for one language, instead of for two possible languages	18:47
Snowhog	TheLastProject: Ah. Sensible.	18:47
TheLastProject	The remark wasn't meant rude, by the way, more jokingly. Sorry if it sounded rude.	18:47
Snowhog	TheLastProject: No. Wasn't rude.	18:48
BluesKaj	heh, TheLastProject ,,he doesn't speak for me ...rudeness is a personal thing ...why bother with a translator when a few keystrokes will work right here	18:51
TheLastProject	Hmmm, guess you have a point as well	18:51
BluesKaj	not as if it's real busy here today :)	18:51
TheLastProject	Guess it's more of a matter of personal preference	18:51
TheLastProject	I always want to do everything as perfect as possible so I end up doing such things :P	18:52
TheLastProject	(When I worked at support I refuses to use pre-defined answers and typed a personal answer for every person sending in a ticket. Took a lot more time but I thought it was worth it)	18:52
BluesKaj	I was pretty sure after the fact that it was portugese , my spanish is pretty rough	18:53
kubb	hello! i just installed kubuntu but i cannot uncheck "proposed udpates" in software sources in muon package manager after checking it once. any idea what is going wrong? thanks	18:56
kubb	i was using ubuntu before but due to gnome 3, i was forced to switch. running 11.10 beta	18:57
kubb	the reason i did this was becuase the search function in muon would not display all sotware availiable from the sources list, and thought that maybe it was being ignored due to the muon configuration	18:59
kubb	what channel do i need for support on kubuntu 11.10? thanks	19:02
OerHeks	kubb, join #Ubuntu+1 for oneiric beta support	19:03
kubb	even kubuntu? thanks	19:04
kubb	any recommendations if muon package manager appeaes to hang? thanks	19:11
kubb	appears, sorry	19:11
BluesKaj	muon seems to be problematic on oneiric , kubb	19:12
kubb	its stuck at 21% "preparing kate-data"	19:12
BluesKaj	I'm still using synaptic :)	19:12
kubb	i get the feeling i have ben shafted!	19:12
kubb	i cant cancel it then can i? i will be totally screwed then with apt?	19:13
daniel__	is it just me or rekonq really unstable? crashes left and right for me	19:13
kubb	i noticed on rekonq that you cannot select blocks of text properly either!	19:14
BluesKaj	kubb, cancel if possible unless it's downloading a whole lot of upgrades , ...is it in the install phase or download ?	19:14
kubb	thanks man, unfortunately its in the install phase i think! :-S	19:15
TheLastProject	IIRC preparing comes after downloading and before installing in KPackageManager	19:15
TheLastProject	So I would guess it's part of the installing phase	19:15
kubb	preparing kate-data ....	19:15
BluesKaj	kubb after cancelling , run sudo dpkg --configure -a , then update/upgrade in the terminal with apt-get	19:15
kubb	cant cancel :-)	19:16
kubb	BluesKaj, kill it?	19:16
BluesKaj	is it still stuck, if so yes , kill it	19:17
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daniel__	i accidently switched my start meny to classic, how do i turn it back?	19:18
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BluesKaj	daniel__, right click on the kicker and choose launcher style	19:19
daniel__	BluesKaj: thank you	19:19
daniel__	anyone know how to change the cursor speed?	19:20
kubb	BluesKaj: thanks mate, but i get "pkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process" when i run the command ! what else needs to be killed? thanks	19:20
BluesKaj	kubb , han on I'll get you the command	19:21
kubb	thanks man :-)	19:21
ubuntu__	Is there some way in Ubuntu to recover files from a drive with a new ext3/4 FS on? Formatted the wrong drive and would like to recover a file or two.	19:22
ubuntu__	Unfortunatly before the backup had a chance to run too, so my backups are a few hours too old.	19:23
BluesKaj	!adeptfix \| kubb	19:23
ubottu	kubb: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	19:23
BluesKaj	forgot about adept ...been a while :)	19:23
kubb	BluesKaj: bloody fantastic, thanks man :-) ill let you know how it goes down afterwards :-)	19:24
BluesKaj	kubb, it's abit of a dirty method ,,some disapprove , but it mostly works	19:25
kubb	yeah, better than sitting aorund infinintely :-)	19:26
BluesKaj	ubottu, formatted the drive /partition with the data on it ?	19:26
ubottu	BluesKaj: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	19:26
BluesKaj	oops	19:27
BluesKaj	ubuntu , formatted the drive /partition with the data on it ? (gawd I wish ppl would at least choose anick )	19:27
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datafubar	Chosen a nick.	19:28
datafubar	BluesKaj: Unfortunatly yes.	19:28
BluesKaj	datafubar, :)	19:28
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kubb	BlueKaj, like you say, not perfect becuase of the state the system was left in previously. can you suggest a way forward from this -> http://pastebin.com/GccStscG thanks	19:29
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datafubar	Trying photorec right now. Not sure if it does what I need.	19:29
BluesKaj	datafubar, there are methods . but they cost major bucks ...I have no idea how to rescue ovewrwritten data	19:29
TheLastProject	datafubar: You aren't on the drive you're trying to recover, are you? The more the drive is used the higher the chance the data is lost permanently so I would recommend you to use a Live CD or so when trying to recover to decrease the possible damage as much as possible =/	19:30
TheLastProject	(And sorry, I don't know a good program)	19:30
kubb	testdisk?	19:30
kubb	i have formatted a drive with data on before and recovered it using that tool	19:31
datafubar	hmm, something happened to my livecd	19:31
kubb	also from a bad resize job as well. however, if you overrote some of the partition since doing that, you will lose some of the data	19:32
kubb	however, what was the original partition file system?	19:33
daniel__	if you guys had a computer with 80gb hdd, 2gb ram, how big would you make / and /home partitions and swap partition?	19:33
BluesKaj	kubb, ok good to hear there are tools ...learned some thing new today ...ok try sudo dpkg --clear-avail , to get out of that funk	19:33
kubb	i recovered from formatting an ntfs partition	19:33
kubb	daniel__: using manual partiton method on install	19:36
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kubb	BlueKaj: sudo dpkg --clear-avail does nothing afaiks thanks	19:37
BluesKaj	daniel__,10G minimum for / , swap 3G, the rest for /home ...that's my estimation	19:37
daniel__	BluesKaj: thx. i made it 25 gb for / and 2gb swap, then the rest to /home. not sure if 2gb swapw is enough, but right now the system is using 0 bit of it anyway	19:39
datafubar	ok, so, back again.	19:41
OerHeks	daniel__, if you won't use sleep/hybernate, 2 Gb is sufficient	19:41
kubb	BlueKaj: following advice from terminal i ran sudo apt-get -f install, seems to have done the trick. nice one mate :-)	19:41
OerHeks	else you need a little more than your ram size	19:41
BluesKaj	daniel__,25 is a bit much but it's gig enuff :)	19:42
datafubar	Chances of getting data back from a formatted partition is? Slim? Non existant?	19:42
OerHeks	datafubar, it is possible, only when you haven't written new data on it.	19:42
danilo_	ciao	19:42
OerHeks	testdisk will find your partitions right away .. or not at all.	19:43
BluesKaj	kubb, ok -f install worked now run dpkg --configure -a again	19:43
kubb	BluesKaj: ok, will do, but i got to reboot first to complete update process it said :-)	19:44
kubb	bbiab	19:44
BluesKaj	kubb, well the probly don't need to	19:44
BluesKaj	then	19:44
kubb	dont need to?	19:44
datafubar	OerHeks: Well, the partition is there. Unfortunatly installer wrote a few files on the partition, but not a complete install. So chances are the file Im looking for is still untouched, but is there a way to scan the \free\ space to look for it?	19:45
BluesKaj	configre -a	19:45
daniel__	BluesKaj: alright, would 15 be better suited?	19:45
kubb	understood, bbiab	19:46
BluesKaj	daniel__, 15 is what i use , and I still have 8G available on /	19:46
datafubar	OerHeks: There are windows tools that does this I seem to remember, but I haven't seen any Linux tools for it.	19:46
daniel__	BluesKaj: do you have lots of stuff installed?	19:46
datafubar	OerHeks: And the windows tools don't read ext3/4	19:46
OerHeks	datafubar, i am not sure all your personal files will be repaired.	19:47
BluesKaj	yes, daniel__ , but if don't need apps I remove them including some defaults	19:47
datafubar	OerHeks: Well, I have most of it backed up already, it's just one a few files that the backup didn't get to that I'm interested in.	19:48
datafubar	OerHeks: It's not the end of the world, but it would save me a lot of time if I could recover it.	19:49
datafubar	OerHeks: Somehow.	19:49
OerHeks	datafubar, try testdisk, it is a part of the gparted live cd	19:51
OerHeks	datafubar, please download it on an other pc, else you will destroy more data	19:51
datafubar	OerHeks: Running photorec right now, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. =(	19:52
kubb	is gksudo or equivalent required for kubuntu gui applications? thanks	19:52
datafubar	OerHeks: I'm looking for a tool similar to Recuva if you've heard of it.	19:53
OerHeks	datafubar, photorec is oke, simular to Recuva	19:53
datafubar	OerHeks: Running from Live-cd so I don't think I'm destroying anything.	19:53
OerHeks	oke :-)	19:54
datafubar	OerHeks: Thanks for helping me out and pointing me in the right direction. :-)	19:55
OerHeks	datafubar, pass it on !	19:55
datafubar	OerHeks: Will do.	19:55
* BluesKaj recalls the phrase from working in windows for all those yrs..backup yer data !		19:57
kubb	BlueKaj: shall i completely remove muon now that we know its useless in 11.10? thanks	19:57
BluesKaj	kubb, if you wish ..I did and am waiting till the thing is fixed ..for sure.	19:58
kubb	nice one mate, you lifesaving trick worked perfect, thanks again	19:59
BluesKaj	kubb, it's usually the only way out with a bad installer	20:01
BluesKaj	kubb, the terminal is your friend...some think it's old fashioned or some such , to use it , but it works because it's closer to the linux gods :)	20:03
kubb	BluesKaj: definataly, thanks again bro	20:13
BluesKaj	kubb, np :)	20:13
daniel	what would the biggest differnces between kubuntu and opensuse be? thinking about trying it	20:14
OerHeks	daniel, the name is, the fabulous support is.	20:18
daniel	OerHeks: how do you mean, exactly?	20:18
OerHeks	daniel, try Kubuntu and Suse side-by-side, and joy the experience.	20:21
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Assembly	我该怎么样隐藏自己的IP	20:28
roberzim	ciao	20:29
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roberzim	!list	20:29
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».	20:29
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daniel	whenver i close the screen on my laptop, kubuntu disables network connections. any way to fix that?	20:33
s1gsegv	hi, someone here told me a ppa to add to install flash. i forget the ppa. SevenSomething?	20:44
s1gsegv	need to do it on another system now :)	20:44
OerHeks	s1gsegv, flash 64 bit ? moment ...	20:47
bazhang	sevenmachines ?	20:47
OerHeks	ppa:sevenmachines/flash	20:47
bazhang	:)	20:47
OerHeks	be carefull with this ppa list >> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas	20:48
guerrilhaa	is there a way to install kde, without kubuntu?	20:51
guerrilhaa	i mean, a package with kde, or i need to install the kubuntu meta	20:51
OerHeks	hi guerrilhaa, yes you need to install the meta package for Kubuntu-desktop.	20:52
OerHeks	KDE means K desktop environment	20:53
s1gsegv	ahh yes thanks	20:55
s1gsegv	i am on my lenovo x120e now though	20:55
s1gsegv	so I want x86	20:56
s1gsegv	i might not have to do anything at all, i havent tried installing flash yet... just barely activated the proprietary fglrx video driver	20:56
s1gsegv	everything is smooth so far	20:56
s1gsegv	i love this netbook even more now that i have it dual-booting!	20:56
OerHeks	nice.	20:56
s1gsegv	OerHeks: is sevenmachines just for 64 bit	20:57
OerHeks	yes, i believe so. correct me if i am wrong.	20:57
s1gsegv	installing flashplugin-installer now	20:57
s1gsegv	hopefully this is all that's required	20:58
s1gsegv	hm it's downloading ia32-libs	20:59
s1gsegv	how can i tell what arch kubuntu things my system is running? and also which edition on kubuntu?	21:00
BluesKaj	yes sevenmachines ppa is for 64 bit flash, 32bit in 64bit clothing :)	21:00
s1gsegv	lsb_release -d i guess?	21:00
s1gsegv	hmm, it doesnt give arch	21:01
s1gsegv	uname -a gives Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-11-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 19:02:55 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux	21:01
s1gsegv	so there's my answer. I will need to add the sevenmachines ppa it looks like right?	21:01
BluesKaj	is multiarch available on 11.04 ?	21:02
* BluesKaj runs 11.10		21:02
OerHeks	lsb_release -a does not give the arch	21:03
BluesKaj	OerHeks, name -a	21:05
BluesKaj	uname -a	21:05
BluesKaj	is there a method to force kate and dolphin to integrate the system fonts in it's toolbar and menubar when called up as root with krunner. The text in the files is ok, ...this a new bug i seems ..using a large monitor makes it difficult to read	21:05
BluesKaj	I'm asking here incase it's a kde4.7 problem that does across more than one kubuntu release	21:06
BluesKaj	does this	21:06
s1gsegv	beautiful	21:06
s1gsegv	all good now	21:07
s1gsegv	thanks again guys	21:07
s1gsegv	BluesKaj: what's the other package you mentioned yesterday 'nonfree' or restricted or something. i believe it was codecs and other stuff	21:07
s1gsegv	whoops, need to ge aptitude installed before i go ay firther	21:08
BluesKaj	kubuntu-restricted-extras	21:08
s1gsegv	ttbeautiful	21:09
BluesKaj	apt-get is doing a good job now,,,I used aptitude for ages but apt-get is supposedly more up to date now than aptitude	21:09
s1gsegv	i'm concerned with aptitude's better dependency handling though	21:09
s1gsegv	is that moot as well?	21:09
s1gsegv	i also find pkg search and filters much better in aptitude	21:10
BluesKaj	s1gsegv, yeah that was the prevailing opinion for a long time , but the devs tell me that's no longer the case	21:10
s1gsegv	ok	21:11
BluesKaj	aptitude still does thejob afaik tho , I haven't heard any complaints , s1gsegv	21:12
s1gsegv	wow, flash performance in HD youtube is absolutely asstastic	21:15
s1gsegv	going to try removing the proprietary vid driver based on threads ive seen about the default driver working better	21:16
BluesKaj	s1gsegv, which card / driver ?	21:18
s1gsegv	only slightly better on the default driver	21:22
s1gsegv	this is an x120e so it has the amd fusion (e-350)	21:22
s1gsegv	the proprietary driver from AMD was call fglrx	21:22
s1gsegv	it's not a dealbreaker, but I don't have this trouble in windows	21:22
s1gsegv	however i believe the windows install is x86	21:22
s1gsegv	any ideas how to make the audio management in kde target a different card?	21:26
s1gsegv	it's using the wrong one i believe... i just switched cards with alsamixer, cranked it, and now the kde volume control has no effect	21:27
s1gsegv	could have something to do with the fact that i did 'sudo alsactl store'	21:28
BluesKaj	alsamixer normally chooses whatever card is default in the bios , then player has to be st to see the device as weel , like dev=0 is usually default (analog) then dev-1 is normally the digital out etc	21:29
s1gsegv	ahh, solved!	21:29
s1gsegv	pretty easy in kmix to select the master device	21:29
s1gsegv	yeah this one is weird the digital is first	21:29
s1gsegv	then analog	21:30
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s1gsegv	then some thinkpad 'EC' one. wondering if that's the mic array however alsamixer says there are no recording devices on that device	21:30
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BluesKaj	capture devices maybe , use F5 to show all	21:32
BluesKaj	I use the coax out/spdif , to feed the audio amp digital in for DD or DTS , and then switch to analog for the headphones	21:34
BluesKaj	well, newstime ...bbl	21:36
guerrilhaa	hello! iv installed kubuntu desktop over my ubuntu installation, but it came in english. is there a way to put my native language as I used gnome?	21:48
guerrilhaa	other question, where in kubunt is the place where i look for "hardware modules" that i maybe have not installed?	21:49
guerrilhaa	im missing in kde the gnome system > administration > hardware drivers	22:13
guerrilhaa	how do i check for new / uninstalled hardware drivers in kde?	22:13
claydoh	guerrilhaa: kmenu > Appications >System > Additional Drivers	22:14
Unlimited	I would be curious if anyone knows the coolest theme for kubuntu	22:18
guerrilhaa	claydoh, thanks!	22:26
claydoh	guerrilhaa: np	22:26
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nene	hola	23:04
nene	ho	23:05
nene	hi	23:05
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