[00:24] <jbern> Hi I have a question about 11.04 am I in the right place?
[00:27] <ionite> how do i purge kwallet service?
[00:30] <dvz> hello! anyone awake?
[00:30] <valorie> ionite: it's the weekend
[00:30] <ionite> valorie: ? puzzled.
[00:31] <valorie> I think if you look in .kde or .kde4, and drill down
[00:31] <valorie> you can find the database file for kwallet
[00:31] <valorie> like ~/.kde/share/kwallet*
[00:31] <valorie> kwalletrc maybe
[00:32] <valorie> you can look at the files and see which is the right one to expunge
[00:32] <dvz> valorie,  could i take a little bit of your time for a few questions ? :-//
[00:33] <valorie> sure, I'll do my best
[00:33] <valorie> although we're leaving for dinner soon
[00:33] <dvz> sorry if i look dumb and can't get anything but i'm new to linux (<3 kubuntu)
[00:34] <dvz> i got a question about npviewer.bin which is eating my cpu ;/
[00:34] <dvz> i readed in a few forums that can be fixed with firefox, but what about if i use chromium ?
[00:35] <dvz> i use it because i can log in google plus and use video calls etc...
[00:36] <dvz> how could i fix this annoying process :/ even some time i need to restart chromium because my flash doesn't want to play anything
[00:36] <ionite> valorie: what's the command to purge wallet in terminal?
[00:36] <valorie> chromium will also log into G+ etc.
[00:37] <valorie> and you can certainly try out rekonq
[00:37] <valorie> the standard KDE browser
[00:38] <valorie> I don't know about npviewer.bin, except that it locks up FF less than it used to forme
[00:38] <valorie> for me
[00:38] <valorie> let's see if there is a nugget from ubottu
[00:38] <valorie> !npviewer
[00:38] <valorie> no, let's try
[00:38] <valorie> !firefox
[00:38] <valorie> heh
[00:39] <dvz> !rekonq
[00:39] <valorie> !info rekonq
[00:39] <valorie> !info npviewer
[00:39] <valorie> heh
[00:39] <valorie> you are right, ubottu
[00:39] <valorie> it's a process, not a package
[00:40] <dvz> btw, Xorg eats my cpu too
[00:40] <dvz> kxkxk
[00:41] <valorie> which version of Kub are you on?
[00:41] <valorie> latest, or LTS?
[00:42] <dvz> 11.04 64 bit
[00:42] <valorie> same here
[00:43] <valorie> I have less problems now than ever before
[00:43] <dvz> its just so beautiful OS
[00:43] <valorie> also, I have a plugin that loads all my millions of tabs only when I click on them
[00:44] <dvz> i had a few issues with headphones etc but fixed them
[00:44] <dvz> just linux is perfect and a lot of people can support if they have the knowledge its such a big community and friendly
[00:44] <valorie> I agree
[00:45] <dvz> the bad is some programs like google talk are runnable from wine :[
[00:45] <dvz> no support for lin ;/
[00:45] <ionite> valorie: what's the command to purge wallet in terminal?
[00:46] <valorie> no idea, because I don't know the correct filename
[00:46] <valorie> !kwallet
[00:46] <valorie> perhaps that will help
[00:47] <dvz> btw, i should use rekonq for browsing to fix this cpu heat ;/
[00:47] <dvz> right?
[00:49] <valorie> the more tabs you have in FF, the worse the problem
[00:49] <valorie> IMO
[00:49] <valorie> and rekonq does NOT have this problem, you are right
[00:49] <dvz> atm i have 3 tabs in chromium :D
[00:53] <valorie> ok, gotta go
[00:53] <dvz> thanks for the help :))
[02:44] <ghostcart> Hello. Is someone here familiar with gettings windows applications to work under ubuntu?
[02:44] <bazhang> ghostcart, check the appdb and join #winehq
[02:44] <bazhang> !appdb | ghostcart
[02:45] <ghostcart> ah, thank you
[04:36] <akSeya> hi folks
[04:36] <akSeya> i'm running amarok here and it's wierd... it does not allow me to jump into the music
[04:37] <akSeya> you know?! skip some parts of the music.. I click on the music bar and nothing happens...
[04:37] <akSeya> am I missing some package or what?
[04:38] <akSeya> oh.. it's just some musics.. the one playing now is OK
[04:38] <akSeya> both are MP3
[04:40] <akSeya> i did a chmod 555 to some folders..
[04:40] <akSeya> could it be the problem?
[05:15] <valorie> akSeya: switch phonon-backend and see if that helps
[05:15] <valorie> do you know what you are using now?
[05:16] <akSeya> lemme check
[05:16] <akSeya> it's phonon already
[05:17] <valorie> Settings > configure Amarok > Playback > Configure phonon > backend
[05:17] <valorie> yes, but phonon uses xine, vlc or gstreamer as a backend
[05:17] <valorie> xine is deprecated
[05:17] <valorie> but still packaged by some distros
[05:18] <akSeya> i'm on kubuntu 11.04
[05:18] <akSeya> default configs
[05:18] <valorie> can't recall what they provide
[05:18] <akSeya> it's phonon
[05:18] <valorie> but both pvlc and pgst are available as packages
[05:18] <valorie> as I said, phonon uses a backend
[05:18] <akSeya> hum
[05:18] <valorie> phonon-xine, phonon-vlc, or phonon-gstreamer
[05:18] <valorie> Settings > configure Amarok > Playback > Configure phonon > backend
[05:19] <akSeya> i'm brazilian.. it's in portuguese system..
[05:19] <akSeya> i guess it's the "infraestrutura"... it says GStreamer
[05:19] <valorie> ok, can you switch to VLC?
[05:19] <valorie> is that available?
[05:20] <akSeya> there isn't such option
[05:20] <valorie> if not, download it from kubuntu
[05:20] <valorie> please
[05:21] <akSeya> vlc is installed... but it isn't on the amarok options..
[05:21] <akSeya> looking in kpackagekit dor something
[05:21] <akSeya> phonon=backend-vlc probably ;)
[05:22] <valorie> you will have to quit and restart Amarok
[05:22] <valorie> change it in systemsettings
[05:22] <valorie> that will save you a quit/restart
[05:22] <valorie> :-)
[05:23] <valorie> I just noticed we are in #kubuntu, not #amarok
[05:23] <akSeya> yeah :$
[05:24] <akSeya> i just thought this would be a better place ;)
[05:24] <valorie> systemsettings > multimedia > phonon
[05:24] <valorie> once it's installed
[05:25] <akSeya> it worked ;)
[05:25] <akSeya> thanks valorie
[05:26] <valorie> weeeeeeee!
[05:27] <akSeya> i remeber you.. you helped me some time ago.. and I talked to you as a little nerd talk to any girl... sorry about that ;)
[05:27] <akSeya> how is your husband going?
[05:27] <valorie> he's fine, why?
[05:27] <akSeya> just give him a hug
[05:28] <akSeya> he is very lucky to have a nerd girl ;)
[05:28] <valorie> OK
[05:28] <valorie> heh
[05:28] <akSeya> i have a daughter.. i wish he become a nerd
[05:28] <valorie> it's been awhile since I've been a "girl"
[05:28]  * valorie is a grandma
[05:28] <akSeya> congrats ;)
[05:29] <akSeya> my doughter's mother doesn't like computer very much
[05:30] <valorie> it's just a tool -- some people have need of it more than others
[05:30] <akSeya> you know.. i want her to like linux and be a nerd just like her father
[05:31] <akSeya> i wish she ask me "dad.. how do I compile the kernel to have something else"
[05:31] <akSeya> but she is just worried id that barbie movie will work
[05:32] <akSeya> i got VLC installed on her computer
[05:32] <akSeya> soon I will install kubuntu for her :D
[05:33] <akSeya> but first i need to get a fast internet connection to her
[05:33] <akSeya> her mother says that she worries cause internet can be dangerous
[05:33] <akSeya> ¬¬
[05:33] <valorie> nice
[05:33] <valorie> well, certainly it can be
[05:33] <valorie> just like any tool
[05:34] <akSeya> it can.. but maybe with some iptables rules and openDNS nameserver...
[05:34] <akSeya> valorie, how old are you (sorry to ask that..)
[05:35] <valorie> that's off-topic, sorry
[05:35] <valorie> and personal
[05:35] <akSeya> no problem ;)
[05:35] <akSeya> i think.. my doughter is 9 years old
[05:35] <akSeya> i want her to be as curious with computers as I was with her age
[05:35] <akSeya> but times are different
[05:36] <akSeya> it is dangerous sometimes now..
[05:36] <akSeya> at my time internet was IRC and somekind secure.. you know?!
[05:36] <valorie> right, but information is good
[05:37] <valorie> kids with information are generally safe
[05:37] <akSeya> i want to give her freedom.. but with great powers came great responsabilities
[05:37] <akSeya> i think about giving her a full internet connection but some "keylogger" or something
[05:37] <akSeya> that I can know if she is doind the right choices
[05:38] <akSeya> but I don't think it's totally right
[05:38] <valorie> better to be there when she's using the Internet
[05:38] <valorie> keylogger seems sneaky
[05:38] <akSeya> I don't live with her
[05:38] <akSeya> =/
[05:39] <akSeya> i can't be always present
[05:39] <akSeya> and her mother is... complicated
[05:41] <akSeya> you know.. i talk to my daughter about everything
[05:41] <akSeya> i told her about sex... about guys and so on..
[05:41] <akSeya> and she tells me about he guys she likes
[05:41] <akSeya> we have a good relationship
[05:42] <akSeya> but internet can be dangerous....
[05:42] <akSeya> if I know what she is doing, I could talk to her.. like if I didn't know
[05:42] <akSeya> you know?!
[05:43] <akSeya> if I know what she is looking for, I can talk to her about that things....
[05:44] <valorie> I think you will destroy her trust if you install a keylogger
[05:44] <valorie> it would mine
[05:44] <akSeya> probably =/
[05:44] <akSeya> but.. can we trust our children?!
[05:44] <akSeya> i mean...
[05:44] <valorie> my basic stance with everyone is trust
[05:44] <akSeya> really.. her mother sucks...
[05:44] <valorie> once lost, though
[05:45] <valorie> please, this is too personal
[05:45] <akSeya> i know it is...
[05:45] <akSeya> but I don't care sharing it...
[05:45] <akSeya> i mean..
[05:45] <akSeya> no one will know who am I
[05:45] <valorie> I don't like listening to it
[05:45] <akSeya> who I am
[05:45] <akSeya> ok
[05:45] <valorie> the woman isn't here to defend herself
[05:46] <akSeya> sorry
[05:46] <akSeya> you've put yourself on her skin...
[05:46] <valorie> conversations, dialog is good
[05:47] <akSeya> yeah
[05:47] <valorie> trashing absent people is not good
[05:48] <akSeya> my fear is that my daughter can't handle what the internet can provide
[05:48] <akSeya> you are a grandma... you raise your children
[05:48] <valorie> well, discuss it with her
[05:48] <valorie> I did with my kids
[05:49] <akSeya> do you think some kind of monitoring is necessary?
[05:50] <akSeya> when I was a child I had freedom...
[05:50] <akSeya> but..
[05:50] <akSeya> I'm a nerd...
[05:50] <akSeya> all I searched for was knowledge
[05:50] <akSeya> about programming, new tools
[05:50] <valorie> I didn't monitor my kids
[05:51] <valorie> but I discussed things with them
[05:51] <akSeya> science
[05:51] <akSeya> hum
[05:52] <akSeya> my worst fear is that my kid record some video or take some nasty photo
[05:52] <akSeya> she may be in love with a fucking guy who does not fucking care abour her.. you know?!
[05:53] <akSeya> sorry.. i think I'm asking you something you cannot answer
[05:53] <akSeya> i just want some opinion.. you know?!
[05:54] <akSeya> I can't talk to my ex wife about this things
[05:54] <valorie> so be honest with your fears
[05:55] <akSeya> the has such a closed mind
[05:55] <akSeya> s/the/she
[05:55] <valorie> find a news article about the dangers of sexting or something
[05:55] <valorie> and ask her about it
[05:55] <valorie> if her friends do things like that
[05:55] <Snowhog> valorie:  Please take this offline - this is a Kubuntu support IRC channel, not a personal channel.
[05:56] <akSeya> sorry Snowhog
[05:56] <valorie> thanks snowhog
[05:56] <akSeya> it's my fault
[05:56] <valorie> I don't want to continue the conversation
[05:56] <akSeya> valorie, thanks for your advices anyway
[06:52] <amichair> will kde 4.7.1 be available in kubuntu ppa?
[06:54] <SilentDis> amichair: they always are, eventually.  I'm on 4.7.0 right now myself.  usually lags behind 1-4 weeks, from what i've seen.
[06:55] <amichair> ok. I remembered the minor updates to be availbale much quicker, but I may have remembered wrong.
[06:58] <SilentDis> amichair: I've always found packagers and coders in general are best treated like dragons.  You do not meddle in their affairs, for you are crunchy and go well with ketchup ;)
[07:05] <amichair> SilentDis: also the kde info page for 4.7.1 says kubuntu packages are available for 11.04 and Oneiric, with a link (which doesn't mention them at all). Got me confused.
[07:06] <SilentDis> amichair: I tend to live in confusion most of my life.  but, then again, that's because you crazy humans are so damn unpredictable ;)
[07:07] <amichair> or rather, Predictably Irraltional™
[07:09] <SilentDis> also, I just installed CyanogenMod 7 on my HTC Evo, and the tip of "iPhone: You're Holding it wrong. Always." made me laugh out loud.
[07:15] <Snowhog> amichair: One must always bear in mind, that 'development' releases of KDE associated with a 'development OS' release (Oneiric) wont (necessarily) be made available for the current OS version. If it will be, it will be.
[07:17] <amichair> what do u call a 'development' release? They consider it just a 'release', or 'monthly stabilization update'
[07:22] <DaemonFC> a monthly KDE release is just a point release
[07:22] <DaemonFC> bug fix release
[07:22] <DaemonFC> they call it "monthly stabilization release"
[07:22] <DaemonFC> I guess it all means the same thing :)
[07:23] <Snowhog> amichair: Well, "normally", the version of KDE that is in use with a development release of Kubuntu, is it self (in my vernacular), in development, which is why it isn't available via the non-developmental repositories.
[07:57] <valorie> !info natty
[07:57] <valorie> haha
[08:02] <softexpert> hello everyone! does someone know if this is the right place to ask about network-manager-openvpn ?
[08:20] <softexpert> in case someone knows something about it: it needs to be updated to 0.9 version so that openvpn could work ...
[08:56] <Gallo> morn all
[08:56] <Gallo> can someone help with wierless set up on bt?
[08:59] <Gallo> "iwconfig wlan0 essid "<name_of_router>" key "<encryption_key>" gives me error for wireless request " Set Encode" (8ba2)
[08:59] <Gallo> anyone, please......lol noob at linux
[09:04] <Gallo> heh, thnx anyways
[10:10] <stoyan4aluck> why skype has no mic on 11.04!?!?!?!? I tryed everything and nothing. Ekiga and all other aplications work but Skype
[10:12] <amichair> stoyan4aluck: I've had various troubles with skype, and all were fixed when I removed pulseaudio and just enabled the mic and capture devices on kmix manually...
[10:14] <stoyan4aluck> amichair: if you removed the pulseaudio what did you instal and how did you config
[10:15] <stoyan4aluck> amichair:  or you just uninstalled the puls audio!?!?!
[10:15] <amichair> stoyan4aluck: I just ran 'sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio' and then rebooted. On KMix (the little speaker icon on the panel) you can configure which channels it shows in the settings - I made sure the mic and capture are shown, and then in the mixer made sure they are enabled and volume is good
[10:16] <amichair> I don't remember whether I had to change anything in skype's audio device setup or it used the defaults properly
[10:17] <stoyan4aluck> amichair:  did you have the same proble I have now???
[10:18] <amichair> I had either mic not working at all, or others whom I talk to over skype complaining about various echos and noises
[10:18] <amichair> I don't know if this is the same as your trouble... just offering an option for what worked for me :-)
[10:19] <stoyan4aluck> amichair:  good I'll try and tell you later:D
[10:19] <amichair> (and you can always re-install pulseaudio if it doesn't help)
[10:20] <stoyan4aluck> what about the other aplications will they work prop
[10:20] <stoyan4aluck> well Iwil try it
[10:21] <amichair> I don't necessarily use all the ones you do, but I can say I've never had a problem with any other app
[10:24] <stoyan4aluck> amichair: see you in a minute, restarting
[10:34] <stoyan4aluck> amichair: now I have prob with the playback
[10:35] <amichair> stoyan4aluck: in all apps or just skype? did u set the kmix mute/volume levels?
[10:39] <stoyan4aluck> amichair: just skype
[10:39] <stoyan4aluck> yeas I did the Kmix
[10:41] <amichair> did u check the skype audio device setup?
[10:45] <stoyan4aluck> man what do you think an I stuped!?!?!? It fucking doesn't work
[10:45] <stoyan4aluck> no playback
[10:46] <stoyan4aluck> amichair: I tryed the sistem setings and kmix
[10:48] <stoyan4aluck> at sistem seting there are only two options avelable hda intel, the sound card, and default
[10:50] <amichair> not system settings, skype audio device settings
[10:52] <stoyan4aluck> at skype it shows only hdmi (unknown)!?!?!?
[10:52] <stoyan4aluck> as a playback
[10:52] <stoyan4aluck> thi mic I have it
[10:54] <amichair> mine is set to "Default device (default)",  but also has many manual options
[10:54] <amichair> and in system settings, the default device is set to the correct analog output
[10:54] <amichair> but ur hardware is different, so I'm not sure what it should be
[10:54] <amichair> sorry
[10:55] <stoyan4aluck> may be is the sound card, uh
[10:55] <stoyan4aluck> it's a laptop
[10:56] <stoyan4aluck> on 10.04 I have it out of box
[10:56] <stoyan4aluck> here is the prob
[11:07] <oceantype> hello, I want to know if a key of my keyboard is set and what the setting is  and if it has no setting I would like to know how I can give a setting to a certain key?
[11:21] <transformers> юю
[11:21] <fla> hola
[11:22] <transformers> привет как я могу сохранить закладки которые использую в браузере reconq ?
[11:22] <transformers> help please
[11:25] <transformers> i need save in 1 file bookmarks of rekonq
[11:26] <transformers> how ?
[11:47] <transformers> answer please : plaonlinux workin in kubuntu 64 bit or not ?
[11:47] <transformers> playOnLinux
[11:50] <Graf_Westerholt> transformers, I do not know playOnLinux, but I just read something about it and there is nothing that says that it would not run on 64 Bit.
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:51] <Graf_Westerholt> Hi, BluesKaj.
[11:51] <BluesKaj> hi Graf_Westerholt
[11:52] <transformers> if we in google write plaonlinux (for windows games) we have only 35 files with mark x86
[11:52] <transformers> i think is bad
[11:53] <Graf_Westerholt> transformers, english version of Google?
[11:53] <transformers> for example program Guitar Pro 6 for guitarist not running in 64 bit versions kubuntu or ubuntu 64 bit
[11:54] <transformers> russian
[11:54] <Graf_Westerholt> I do not understand russian ;)
[11:54] <BluesKaj> transformers, PlayOnLinux is just a front-end for wine.
[11:54] <transformers> use google translater
[11:54] <transformers> wine not help me for rin windows game
[11:55] <Graf_Westerholt> Wine is for Windows Games.
[11:55] <transformers> only play on linux (with wine inside)
[11:55] <BluesKaj> !ru | transformers
[11:55] <transformers> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[11:56] <transformers> i speak english )))))))) learn in school
[11:56] <Graf_Westerholt> transformers you do not need PlayOnLinux to run your windows applications.
[11:56] <transformers> how can i use wine for games?
[11:57] <Graf_Westerholt> transformers Just install wine and run the game.
[11:57] <transformers> wine always write me : exe file ? error
[11:57] <transformers> i try it no resoult
[11:57] <transformers> no effect
[11:58] <Graf_Westerholt> So that is your problem, transformers. You should post the exact error message.
[11:58] <transformers> give me please holland site of wine please
[11:58] <Graf_Westerholt> Sorry, transformers?
[11:58] <BluesKaj> you have to configure wine to include the game's .exe files
[11:59] <transformers> how i don`t learn configure wine
[11:59] <BluesKaj> !winw
[11:59] <BluesKaj> !wine
[11:59] <transformers> i know but no workink!!!!!!!!!1
[12:00] <transformers> let talk about x86 .deb programs
[12:00] <transformers> in kubuntu x64
[12:00] <BluesKaj> transformers, join #winehq, they know more about windows games in linux
[12:00] <transformers> ok i try in thanks
[12:01] <transformers> try it
[12:02] <transformers> #winehq is a chanell like IRC ?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> YES
[12:03] <transformers> in last year i was install 80 ubuntu on russian computers for friend`s and clients
[12:03]  * BluesKaj searches for caps lock defeat
[12:04] <transformers> BluesKaj did you play on guitar in kubuntu ? i yes))))))))))
[12:04] <BluesKaj> just click on this transformers , #winehq
[12:04] <transformers> thanks for help
[12:04] <BluesKaj> transformers, no
[12:04] <transformers> ok i wanna change 32-bit to 64 bit
[12:05] <BluesKaj> reinstall
[12:05] <transformers> after i use your help
[12:05] <transformers> yas
[12:05] <transformers> yeah
[12:05] <transformers> i write all your words thank you
[12:06] <BluesKaj> there's no way to change, but you make sure multiarch is installed and enabled
[12:06] <transformers> 1 quastion more
[12:07] <transformers> on HDD how much Gigabites kubuntu 11/04 after downloads
[12:07] <transformers> i think 20 Gb
[12:08] <transformers> my client wants save windows and + kubuntu
[12:08] <transformers> but hard drive is full 5 Gb on c:/ and 6.3Gb on d:/
[12:10] <James147> transformers: kubuntu only exands to about 3gigs, though its best to have 10-20 gigs if you want to actually use it
[12:12] <xvopx> hey guys, can someone help me with a problem in kubuntu?
[12:12] <James147> !help | xvopx
[12:12] <BluesKaj> transformers, if he wants to store data, or media then he may need more than 20G
[12:13] <transformers> wow
[12:13] <transformers> another way
[12:13]  * James147 also notes that filesystem behave horribally when that full ^^ 
[12:13] <transformers> get wibu file ubuntu
[12:13] <transformers> run win
[12:13] <transformers> unstall not ubuntu
[12:14] <transformers> use wibu for kubuntu installation
[12:14] <xvopx> I installed Virtual Box on my new Notebook, Host is Win7... I took a ready 2 use virtual box image from kubuntu 11.04 and set everything up.  it works great, but i can't view mkv and some other videoformats.  I installed the guest extensions and vlc player, but maybe I need some codecs.. can someone help me?
[12:14] <transformers> Kde desktop plasma already inside or not?
[12:15] <James147> xvopx: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:15] <Graf_Westerholt> !codecs | xvopx
[12:17] <transformers> kubuntu11.04 standart withiout KDE plasma or have inside ?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> xvopx, if you want a real working linux install, it's best to dual boot ...VMs are ok , but they don't do liinux really well
[12:17] <James147> BluesKaj: they do linux as well as anyother os ^^
[12:18] <transformers> i wait answer
[12:18] <transformers> please help
[12:18] <James147> transformers: kubuntu comes with plasma by default
[12:18] <transformers> super!!!!!!!!!
[12:18] <transformers> hi James147
[12:19] <transformers> 5Gb if i use in wibu file
[12:19] <transformers> kubuntu working ?security
[12:20] <xvopx> BluesKaj:  I know, but I want several Machines at ones.  one for business stuff, one for internet stuff and media and the main system as a save space with some powerneeding programs.  no need for a dual boot, i need to switch often :D
[12:20] <stoyan4aluck> transformers: if your client's computer has such hardware you may not have the plasma working, :D
[12:20] <transformers> i crying
[12:20] <stoyan4aluck> tell your client to buy a computer бляд
[12:21] <transformers> my tears destroy my notebook
[12:21] <transformers> здесь нельзя ругатья матом
[12:21] <stoyan4aluck> jocking
[12:21] <transformers> у него хороший компьютер с 750 Gb
[12:22] <stoyan4aluck> transformers: just check the video card
[12:22] <transformers> i think video card is well for 300 euro
[12:23] <BluesKaj> James147, well , you're entitled to your opinion , but experience with VMs are different , obviously and I avoid them . A work environment is different of course .
[12:24] <transformers> thanks guys)) i wanna get out ))))))) reinstall 32-bit kubuntu on 64 bit
[12:24] <BluesKaj> transformers,?
[12:25] <transformers> for why ? my proccessor core 2 duo only 64 bit
[12:26] <transformers> and yesterday reconq  was crash in 32-bit 15 times. Today stop working destop effects
[12:26] <James147> BluesKaj: it depends on what you need them for... they are greate for everything except graphics processing ^^
[12:27] <stoyan4aluck> transformers:  I recomend you to try the LTS 10.04
[12:27] <transformers> no///////old system////
[12:27] <stoyan4aluck> 11.04 is not yet stable:D go for it
[12:28] <transformers> i like KDE cos i web disigner
[12:28] <stoyan4aluck> I have problem with the sound in skype
[12:28] <transformers> my new web site for kubuntu did you see ?
[12:28] <transformers> skype is old program
[12:29] <transformers> in kubuntu have another video client
[12:29] <stoyan4aluck> transformers: you sound funny:D
[12:29] <BluesKaj> transformers, skype runs well here , and it's not an old app
[12:30] <transformers> please see my web site with sexual girl Gloria abuut kubuntu http://kubuntu-11-10.narod.ru fr
[12:30] <transformers> i moderator and disign
[12:32] <transformers> i wanna work with Swiss team Loco in kubuntu project but in week-end they do not send answer or e-mail to me
[12:33] <stoyan4aluck> BluesKaj: can you help or just go back to LTS
[12:35] <transformers> what are we waiting in KUBUNTU 11.10 who knows ?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> stoyan4aluck, i have to ask if you've setup alsamixer and pulseaudio fpr skype ?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> alsamixer
[12:37] <Graf_Westerholt> transformers, the Beta for Kubuntu 11.10 is out, you can test it.
[12:37] <transformers> for correct work skype del skype..........reunstall skype and all files with skype seach
[12:38] <transformers> i do no find 11.10
[12:38] <stoyan4aluck> BluesKaj:  I've been trying all stuff from forums and so on, yeas I did install it
[12:38] <BluesKaj> stoyan4aluck, which skype version did you install ?
[12:39] <transformers> if your have problem with guitar program Rakarrack writing me ! i found compromiss
[12:39] <stoyan4aluck> transformers: yeah go for 11.10
[12:39] <Graf_Westerholt> transformers https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Beta1/Kubuntu
[12:39] <transformers> fear )))))))))
[12:40] <transformers> i have only 1 computer
[12:40] <stoyan4aluck>  BluesKajI tryed the official and old like 2.0 and 2.1
[12:41] <stoyan4aluck> transformers: you won't have it for long if you try like that:D
[12:42] <stoyan4aluck> BluesKaj:  I tryed the official and old like 2.0 and 2.1
[12:43] <stoyan4aluck> I enen tryird to uninstall pulse audio and install  esound
[12:45] <transformers> say me about my site kbuntu please
[12:45] <stoyan4aluck> BluesKaj:  I even tryed to install esound:(
[12:45] <transformers> pretty?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> stoyan4aluck, skype can work without pulseaudio , but it's easier if you use pulseaudio with pavucontrol . Have you tried that ?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> transformers, pls don't promote your site here , or the ops might ban you :P
[12:46] <stoyan4aluck> BluesKaj: Yes I did
[12:46] <transformers> ubuntu one in kubuntu ..where ?
[12:47] <stoyan4aluck> it may be the camera suport
[12:47] <Graf_Westerholt> The site is just a picture.
[12:47] <transformers> they not bun me
[12:47] <transformers> never
[12:47] <transformers> picture with desktop kubuntu in down line each photo
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, no matter , it's not up to me anyway, but he should be warned
[12:48] <stoyan4aluck> BluesKaj: it may be the camera suport
[12:48] <transformers> ubuntu one where find in kubuntu ? who knows?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> stoyan4aluck, perhaps , I have no skype experience with a camera on Linux...I'm strictly audio
[12:50] <stoyan4aluck> BluesKaj:  I am sure if I put a mic it will work but it isn't confortable to stick it in a laptop
[12:50] <transformers> Why in Russia not love Linux ? i don`t understand this fact . Now i never says Linux for clients . I say`s KDE or Kuntu
[12:51] <Mamarok> could we please stay on topic here?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> stoyan4aluck, no built in mic ?
[12:51] <stoyan4aluck> transformers: do you charge for installation of Ubuntu, uh!?!?
[12:52] <transformers> i wanna eat.......later
[12:52] <Mamarok> transformers: for discussions please join #kubuntu-offtopic, this here is only for support, you were told that before
[12:52] <Mamarok> stoyan4aluck: same for you, please stay on topic
[12:52] <stoyan4aluck> BluesKaj: model 2007 a cheap one no mic build in
[12:52] <transformers> ok
[12:53] <BluesKaj> stoyan4aluck, right
[12:53] <transformers> Mamarok you are tread KUBUNU and Ubuntu phylosofy
[12:54] <BluesKaj> BBL, have to leave for a while
[12:54] <Mamarok> transformers: pease behave, no advertising in this channel, you were warned before, I will not repeat it
[12:54] <Mamarok> please*
[12:54] <Mamarok> or that
[12:58] <stoyan4aluck> Mamarok: I am not advertising but asking a real problem with skype working and pissed off 11.04. My mic doesn't work! Help me if you can!
[12:59] <Mamarok> stoyan4aluck: this was not abut you, I only asked you to stay on topic
[12:59] <dvz> Hi! I have a problem with Xorg :( its eating my CPU like hell ;-// could anyone help me out ?
[13:00] <stoyan4aluck> Mamarok:  it seams nobody can help with the sound, uh!
[13:01] <Mamarok> stoyan4aluck: I don't use Skype, nad its Linux support is not exactly good
[13:01] <Mamarok> and*
[13:01] <GoodNICK> hello all
[13:04] <dvz> stoyan4aluck, what is your problem with the sound?
[13:13] <stoyan4aluck> dvz: I tried everithing, it seams is the camera but  on 10.04 works out of box
[13:13] <dvz> it doesnt starts up your camera?
[13:13] <dvz> desktop or laptop machine?
[13:14] <stoyan4aluck> dvz: I have video but I can't do anything to start the mic
[13:14] <dvz> desktop machine or laptop?
[13:14] <stoyan4aluck> dvz: laptop
[13:15] <dvz> hm i'm on kubuntu 11.04 and my mic works perfectly
[13:15] <dvz> are u sure u haven't muted it?
[13:15] <stoyan4aluck> dvz: man I am not using ubuntu fro yesterday, uh
[13:16] <dvz> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[13:16] <stoyan4aluck> well Kubuntu, does it make difference!?!?
[13:16] <dvz> its the same doh, well probably u miss some driver or settings ?
[13:16] <stoyan4aluck> dvz:  say
[13:16] <dvz> only for the graphic :>
[13:17] <stoyan4aluck> dvz: well the plasma doesn't work as well
[13:17] <stoyan4aluck> but I didn't try to fix it
[13:19] <stoyan4aluck> dvz: I may go to 10.04 till 110.4 gets better or just stick to LTS
[13:21] <dvz> i kinda loved plasma but this problem with the high cpu is annoying
[13:21] <stoyan4aluck> dvz: !?!? say more
[13:21] <dvz> its doing the same when i play videos from the popular online sites
[13:21] <stoyan4aluck> dvz: tell me more!
[13:21] <BluesKaj> dvz, which kde version ?
[13:22] <dvz> or if i run net beans, java is on 5-6% of cpu usage and xorg is like 40-45%...
[13:22] <dvz> sec
[13:24] <stoyan4aluck> BluesKaj: it's indeed the official if it's 11.04
[13:27] <dvz> KDE 4.5
[13:29] <BluesKaj> dvz, kde3 4.5 on 11.04 , if so then it seems you to update , upgrade then dist-upgrade
[13:29] <BluesKaj> err kde 4.5
[13:30] <dvz> dvz@dVz:~$ kde-config --version | grep KDE
[13:30] <dvz> KDE: 3.5.10
[13:30] <dvz> BluesKaj,
[13:30] <dvz> :>
[13:31] <FloodBotK2> dvz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <FloodBotK1> dvz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <dvz> hmm i'm going to check how to update my kde..
[13:32] <BluesKaj> dvz , which kubuntu , lsb_release -a
[13:33] <dvz> release 11.04, natty
[13:33] <James147> dvz: kde4-config if you also have kde 4 ^^ :)
[13:34] <dvz> nothing happens ;/
[13:35] <BluesKaj> dvz, dpkg -l|grep kde4 ...3.5 doesn't look right to me
[13:35] <James147> "kde4-config --version" that is
[13:35] <dvz> KDE Development Platform: 4.6.2 (4.6.2)
[13:35] <James147> BluesKaj: it looks fine, since kde-config looks for the kde3 version of the libs if they are installed
[13:36] <James147> BluesKaj: kde4-config looks for the kde4 ones...
[13:36] <James147> since you can have them both installed
[13:37] <dvz> i was thinking that this xorg cpu usage could be from my video card... i read something about it i could need to configure it, but i dont have any idea how would that happen
[13:37] <James147> what graphics card?
[13:37] <dvz> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650]
[13:41] <BluesKaj> James147, I assume ppl running 11.04 have kde4 as the default desktop environment
[13:41] <dvz> BluesKaj,  yes, it is by default
[13:41] <James147> BluesKaj: dosnt matter, they can still have kde3libs, and thus kde-config --version will show kde3.X if its installed
[13:42] <James147> !ATI | dvz
[13:42] <BluesKaj> James147, it was a command I dreamed up assuming kde4 was the default :)
[13:43] <James147> BluesKaj: yeah :) just have to remember kde4-config for kde4 :D at least untill kde3 is completely removed
[13:43] <BluesKaj> radeon hd 4650 , dvz , fglrx driver ?
[13:44] <dvz> Mobility Radeon HD 4650=> yes, i have installed some driver but not sure what is fglrx?
[13:45] <dvz> its auto detecting my card as i read the forums
[13:46] <BluesKaj> dvz, fglrx is aka ATI Catalyst Linux
[13:46] <ionite> how do i purge Kwallet in kde? what command do i type in terminal?
[13:47] <dvz> BluesKaj,  i just checked info on fglrx and pasted to you in query
[13:48] <BluesKaj> yes  dvz , check additional drivers in kmenu>system , maybe ther's arecommended driver that should be installed.
[13:49] <dvz> and it is installed
[13:49] <dvz> ://
[13:50] <ionite> BluesKaj: hi. what command do i type to purge kwallet in terminal?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> ionite, sudo apt-get purge kwalletmanager
[13:52] <ionite> BluesKaj: so kind of u. thanks!!!
[13:54] <dvz> hmm if its not from the driver, what could it be :/
[13:55] <BluesKaj> dvz, open system monitor and look at the process table to see what' eating cpu / memory
[14:01] <dvz> BluesKaj,  isn#t system monitor doing the same? in system monitor for xorg i get root - 26% of cpu, 70k memory
[14:01] <dvz> shared is around 150k
[14:03] <BluesKaj> dvz, it could be a rogue app , that why i suggested system monitor process table.
[14:04] <dvz> else, httpd is eating a lot of memory too... i see lot of apps named httpd..
[14:05] <dvz> with a username - nobody
[14:05] <dvz> other process which are eating are skype, chromium, chat, kwin, plasma desktop..
[14:06] <BluesKaj> anything above 25-30% ?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> unless it's media
[14:07] <dvz> all are bellow 10% of cpu usage exept xorg when i play some media..
[14:09] <dvz> if i disable desktop effects xorg is alright, when i start netbeans my java is runing on 80% cpu usage..
[14:14] <ionite> BluesKaj: how do i edit my lib sane files in GUI? What do i type in terminal>
[14:18] <dvz> BluesKaj, i disabled nepomuk and my cpu is good now :-))
[14:18] <BluesKaj> ionite, what do you want use ? gui or terminal
[14:18] <ionite> BluesKaj: gui
[14:19] <BluesKaj> dvz, ahhh , i should have thought of that ..nepomuk , the worst pita kubuntu ever dreamed up which can't be deleted ..fugly app IMO.
[14:19] <BluesKaj> useless to most home users
[14:19] <dvz> :-DD i'm kinda sad i won't use my desktop effects but what the hell :)
[14:22] <dvz> btw, google chrome or google chromium ?
[14:25] <OerHeks> dvz chromium comes without build-in flash & indentification-number. my choice.
[14:25] <dvz> and no - no scripts
[14:25] <dvz> :/
[14:26] <BluesKaj> 'chromium-browser is probly best for linux , altho the fonts on the bookmarks bar and toolbars are unreadable on large monitors like a tv
[14:27] <BluesKaj> I like chromium alot but I have to run FF to make the toolbars etc, readable
[14:28] <BluesKaj> google is too independent and proprietary IMO , chromium doesn't integrate well with kde / system settings
[14:47] <dvz> btw BluesKaj , which is the best player for music? atm i'm using audacius
[14:47] <six86> Hi. Any News on kopete not giving any notification?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> !best | dvz
[14:49] <BluesKaj> dvz, I didn't mean to lecture you , but it's a matter of taste ...I use VLC , simple interface up front .but bery configurable if you take the time to learn it's options
[14:49] <dvz> the bot doesn't understand me :D
[14:50] <dvz> but like performance requirements ?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> audio doesn't require a lot of computer power , dvz performance requirements aren't a problem with 99.9% of pcs these days
[14:52] <dvz> thanks a lot BluesKaj  :)
[14:53] <BluesKaj> dvz, np ...some ppl like amarok too
[14:55] <saturn_2011> hey, someone here who has disabled plymouth boot screen ?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> saturn_2011, why do you ask ?
[15:00] <six86> Can someone confirm kopete notification problems?
[15:00] <saturn_2011> Because I try to disable plymouth-splash screen ( already removed boot parameters ) but still get black screen a long time until boot messages appear for 1-2 seconds and I'm not short if it is still Plymouth or framebuffer
[15:01] <avihay> dvz: I've kind of been bitten by amarok too many times. used to use qmmp, with the classical winamp2 skin, but it stopped working, also had a relatively high CPU requirements, shame because it started to get nice features. I now use audacious. I'm guessing that what bothers you is the hotkeys
[15:01] <surgeon73> кто-нибудь обновил xperia neo до последней прошивки?
[15:04] <dvz> avihay, no, just if i set up some effects my cpu of using the process audacious from 3% goes like 7-8% ;/
[15:19] <avihay> dvz: well, that doesn't sound out of the ordinary to me. maybe audacious's effects aren't optimized... you might want to try XMMS2, or, to be more exact, one of it's GUI front ends, other then that, VLC should be efficient too, but I think it doesn't handle large playlists well.
[15:20] <dvz> i didn't mention i like different music,from house to soft rock or hard rock groups => large playlists :/
[15:24] <dvz> avihay, i changed it to winamp look and the cpu went low xD
[15:24] <TheLastProject> Ah, music player discussion?
[15:24]  * TheLastProject listens o,o
[15:26] <avihay> you might want to disable the visualisation
[15:26] <dvz> hmm,, why?
[15:28] <BluesKaj> to me playlists are nothing but pita ...I just got to the file want to play in , vlc file association is set up to play all media types on my pc , simple a quick and no fooling around trying play DJ ... I used to be a DJ so i know what's involved and playlists are for background music IMO :)
[15:28] <avihay> more CPU for other stuff, after all, how much do you stare at your media-player? by visualization I mean the small bar graph under the time
[15:37] <avihay> I have one large playlist with everything on it. I don't get the amarock approach to playlists. or a DJ's approach to playlists, though I can venture a few guesses.
[15:44] <jony> I'm looking for nice window decoration themes for kubuntu 11.04
[15:44] <jony> any suggestions?
[15:59] <tranformers> gopd evening
[15:59] <tranformers> good
[16:30] <frane> Hi people
[16:31] <frane> what's the langage used in here?
[16:31] <TheLastProject> English, I would say
[16:32] <frane> ok
[16:32] <frane> is it the right chan for questions about unbuntu?
[16:33] <Mamarok> frane: no, this is abut Kubuntu, for Ubuntu you should go to #ubuntu
[16:34] <frane> so that's ok, i use kubuntu
[16:34] <TheLastProject> The difference is minimal, except that KDE doesn't believe that removing the minimize and maximize button is a good idea, unlike GNOME :P
[16:35] <TheLastProject> (Though I guess I shouldn't cause an anti-GNOME wave here, seeing as the standard Ubuntu version uses Unity IIRC
[16:35] <TheLastProject> )
[16:36] <Mamarok> especially not since this is totally off topic :)
[16:36] <frane> my question is quite simple, I'm currently in denmark, and there's no way i can see rugby world cup here. So I would connect to UK tv channels, and of course my IP being Danish, I can't, so I would emulate an IP in UK, and dunno how to with this OS (I know with the win)
[16:36] <TheLastProject> Hey! XD
[16:37] <TheLastProject> Is it a website you have to use? In those cases a simple google search for "uk proxy" should do o,o
[16:37] <frane> that's an idea, let's do that, thx
[16:42] <TheLastProject> Question: Does anybody here know how to control Banshee with the "next song" etc options on the roccat open source driver? Or possibly another music player that can do that? I believe it works similar to keyboard buttons.
[17:08] <dvz> what the f is npviewer.bin and why is it on 20% of cpu? :S
[18:03] <Snowhog> dvz: Google on "npviewer.bin" (no quotes) and you'll get all sorts of info on this.
[18:22] <alien260> Hi everyone, Anyone here have experience getting ssh key loaded into ssh-agent? I tried to load them using ssh-add but I am getting the message 'Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.'
[18:25] <BluesKaj> alien260, install keychain
[18:30] <alien260> BluesKaj: Already have it installed, is there something specific that I have missed to load the key into the active agent session?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> alien260, checkout "14.10.7 ssh-agent and ssh-add" here , http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/openssh.html
[18:41] <salfumant> vaya, pues no se parece ni de coña al mIRC
[18:42] <BluesKaj> !es | salfumant
[18:42] <BluesKaj> !pt | salfumant
[18:43] <BluesKaj> cover all the bases :)
[18:43] <TheLastProject> XD
[18:43] <salfumant> Thanks___GOoooo
[18:43] <TheLastProject> Couldn't you have used Google Translate to detect the language? :P
[18:46] <Snowhog> TheLastProject: This is an English version of #kubuntu. There are companion #kubuntu channels for other languages.
[18:46] <TheLastProject> I know, but that wasn't my point
[18:47] <TheLastProject> My point was that a Google Translate would've required him to only use the bot for one language, instead of for two possible languages
[18:47] <Snowhog> TheLastProject: Ah. Sensible.
[18:47] <TheLastProject> The remark wasn't meant rude, by the way, more jokingly. Sorry if it sounded rude.
[18:48] <Snowhog> TheLastProject: No. Wasn't rude.
[18:51] <BluesKaj> heh, TheLastProject ,,he doesn't speak for me ...rudeness is a personal thing ...why bother with a translator when a few keystrokes will work right here
[18:51] <TheLastProject> Hmmm, guess you have a point as well
[18:51] <BluesKaj> not as if it's real busy here today :)
[18:51] <TheLastProject> Guess it's more of a matter of personal preference
[18:52] <TheLastProject> I always want to do everything as perfect as possible so I end up doing such things :P
[18:52] <TheLastProject> (When I worked at support I refuses to use pre-defined answers and typed a personal answer for every person sending in a ticket. Took a lot more time but I thought it was worth it)
[18:53] <BluesKaj> I was pretty sure after the fact that it was portugese , my spanish is pretty rough
[18:56] <kubb> hello! i just installed kubuntu but i cannot uncheck "proposed udpates" in software sources in muon package manager after checking it once. any idea what is going wrong? thanks
[18:57] <kubb> i was using ubuntu before but due to gnome 3, i was forced to switch. running 11.10 beta
[18:59] <kubb> the reason i did this was becuase the search function in muon would not display all sotware availiable from the sources list, and thought that maybe it was being ignored due to the muon configuration
[19:02] <kubb> what channel do i need for support on kubuntu 11.10? thanks
[19:03] <OerHeks> kubb, join #Ubuntu+1 for oneiric beta support
[19:04] <kubb> even kubuntu? thanks
[19:11] <kubb> any recommendations if muon package manager appeaes to hang? thanks
[19:11] <kubb> appears, sorry
[19:12] <BluesKaj> muon seems to be problematic on oneiric , kubb
[19:12] <kubb> its stuck at 21% "preparing kate-data"
[19:12] <BluesKaj> I'm still using synaptic :)
[19:12] <kubb> i get the feeling i have ben shafted!
[19:13] <kubb> i cant cancel it then can i? i will be totally screwed then with apt?
[19:13] <daniel__> is it just me or  rekonq really unstable? crashes left and right for me
[19:14] <kubb> i noticed on rekonq that you cannot select blocks of text properly either!
[19:14] <BluesKaj> kubb, cancel if possible unless it's downloading a whole lot of upgrades , ...is it in the install phase or download ?
[19:15] <kubb> thanks man, unfortunately its in the install phase i think! :-S
[19:15] <TheLastProject> IIRC preparing comes after downloading and before installing in KPackageManager
[19:15] <TheLastProject> So I would guess it's part of the installing phase
[19:15] <kubb> preparing kate-data ....
[19:15] <BluesKaj> kubb after cancelling , run sudo dpkg --configure -a  , then update/upgrade in the terminal with apt-get
[19:16] <kubb> cant cancel :-)
[19:16] <kubb> BluesKaj, kill it?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> is it still stuck, if so yes , kill it
[19:18] <daniel__> i accidently switched my start meny to classic, how do i turn it back?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> daniel__, right click on the kicker and choose launcher style
[19:19] <daniel__> BluesKaj: thank you
[19:20] <daniel__> anyone know how to change the cursor speed?
[19:20] <kubb> BluesKaj: thanks mate, but i get "pkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process" when i run the command ! what else needs to be killed? thanks
[19:21] <BluesKaj> kubb , han on I'll get you the command
[19:21] <kubb> thanks man :-)
[19:22] <ubuntu__> Is there some way in Ubuntu to recover files from a drive with a new ext3/4 FS on? Formatted the wrong drive and would like to recover a file or two.
[19:23] <ubuntu__> Unfortunatly before the backup had a chance to run too, so my backups are a few hours too old.
[19:23] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | kubb
[19:23] <BluesKaj> forgot about adept ...been a while :)
[19:24] <kubb> BluesKaj: bloody fantastic, thanks man :-) ill let you know how it goes down afterwards :-)
[19:25] <BluesKaj> kubb, it's abit of a dirty method ,,some disapprove , but it mostly works
[19:26] <kubb> yeah, better than sitting aorund infinintely :-)
[19:26] <BluesKaj> ubottu, formatted the drive /partition with the data on it ?
[19:27] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ubuntu , formatted the drive /partition with the data on it ?  (gawd I wish ppl would at least choose anick )
[19:28] <datafubar> Chosen a nick.
[19:28] <datafubar> BluesKaj: Unfortunatly yes.
[19:28] <BluesKaj> datafubar, :)
[19:29] <kubb> BlueKaj, like you say, not perfect becuase of the state the system was left in previously. can you suggest a way forward from this -> http://pastebin.com/GccStscG  thanks
[19:29] <datafubar> Trying photorec right now. Not sure if it does what I need.
[19:29] <BluesKaj> datafubar, there are methods . but they cost major bucks ...I have no idea how to rescue ovewrwritten data
[19:30] <TheLastProject> datafubar: You aren't on the drive you're trying to recover, are you? The more the drive is used the higher the chance the data is lost permanently so I would recommend you to use a Live CD or so when trying to recover to decrease the possible damage as much as possible =/
[19:30] <TheLastProject> (And sorry, I don't know a good program)
[19:30] <kubb> testdisk?
[19:31] <kubb> i have formatted a drive with data on before and recovered it using that tool
[19:31] <datafubar> hmm, something happened to my livecd
[19:32] <kubb> also from a bad resize job as well. however, if you overrote some of the partition since doing that, you will lose some of the data
[19:33] <kubb> however, what was the original partition file system?
[19:33] <daniel__> if you guys had a computer with 80gb hdd, 2gb ram, how big would you make / and /home partitions and swap partition?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> kubb, ok good to hear there are tools ...learned some thing new today ...ok try sudo dpkg --clear-avail , to get out of that funk
[19:33] <kubb> i recovered from formatting an ntfs partition
[19:36] <kubb> daniel__: using manual partiton method on install
[19:37] <kubb> BlueKaj: sudo dpkg --clear-avail does nothing afaiks thanks
[19:37] <BluesKaj> daniel__,10G minimum for / ,  swap 3G, the rest for /home ...that's my estimation
[19:39] <daniel__> BluesKaj: thx. i made it 25 gb for / and 2gb swap, then the rest to /home.  not sure if 2gb swapw is enough, but right now the system is using 0 bit of it anyway
[19:41] <datafubar> ok, so, back again.
[19:41] <OerHeks> daniel__, if you won't use sleep/hybernate, 2 Gb is sufficient
[19:41] <kubb> BlueKaj: following advice from terminal i ran sudo apt-get -f install, seems to have done the trick. nice one mate :-)
[19:41] <OerHeks> else you need a little more than your ram size
[19:42] <BluesKaj> daniel__,25 is a bit much but it's gig enuff :)
[19:42] <datafubar> Chances of getting data back from a formatted partition is? Slim? Non existant?
[19:42] <OerHeks> datafubar, it is possible, only when you haven't written new data on it.
[19:42] <danilo_> ciao
[19:43] <OerHeks> testdisk will find your partitions right away .. or not at all.
[19:43] <BluesKaj> kubb, ok -f install worked now run dpkg --configure -a  again
[19:44] <kubb> BluesKaj: ok, will do, but i got to reboot first to complete update process it said :-)
[19:44] <kubb> bbiab
[19:44] <BluesKaj> kubb, well the probly don't need to
[19:44] <BluesKaj> then
[19:44] <kubb> dont need to?
[19:45] <datafubar> OerHeks: Well, the partition is there. Unfortunatly installer wrote a few files on the partition, but not a complete install. So chances are the file Im looking for is still untouched, but is there a way to scan the \free\ space to look for it?
[19:45] <BluesKaj> configre -a
[19:45] <daniel__> BluesKaj: alright, would 15 be better suited?
[19:46] <kubb> understood, bbiab
[19:46] <BluesKaj> daniel__, 15 is what i use , and I still have 8G available on /
[19:46] <datafubar> OerHeks: There are windows tools that does this I seem to remember, but I haven't seen any Linux tools for it.
[19:46] <daniel__> BluesKaj: do you have lots of stuff installed?
[19:46] <datafubar> OerHeks: And the windows tools don't read ext3/4
[19:47] <OerHeks> datafubar, i am not sure all your personal files will be repaired.
[19:47] <BluesKaj> yes, daniel__ ,  but if don't need apps I remove them including some defaults
[19:48] <datafubar> OerHeks: Well, I have most of it backed up already, it's just one a few files that the backup didn't get to that I'm interested in.
[19:49] <datafubar> OerHeks: It's not the end of the world, but it would save me a lot of time if I could recover it.
[19:49] <datafubar> OerHeks: Somehow.
[19:51] <OerHeks> datafubar, try testdisk, it is a part of the gparted live cd
[19:51] <OerHeks> datafubar, please download it on an other pc, else you will destroy more data
[19:52] <datafubar> OerHeks: Running photorec right now, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. =(
[19:52] <kubb> is gksudo or equivalent required for kubuntu gui applications? thanks
[19:53] <datafubar> OerHeks: I'm looking for a tool similar to Recuva if you've heard of it.
[19:53] <OerHeks> datafubar, photorec is oke, simular to Recuva
[19:53] <datafubar> OerHeks: Running from Live-cd so I don't think I'm destroying anything.
[19:54] <OerHeks> oke :-)
[19:55] <datafubar> OerHeks: Thanks for helping me out and pointing me in the right direction. :-)
[19:55] <OerHeks> datafubar, pass it on !
[19:55] <datafubar> OerHeks: Will do.
[19:57]  * BluesKaj recalls the phrase from working in windows for all those yrs..backup yer data !
[19:57] <kubb> BlueKaj: shall i completely remove muon now that we know its useless in 11.10? thanks
[19:58] <BluesKaj> kubb, if you wish ..I did and am waiting till the thing is fixed ..for sure.
[19:59] <kubb> nice one mate, you lifesaving trick worked perfect, thanks again
[20:01] <BluesKaj> kubb, it's usually the only way out with a bad installer
[20:03] <BluesKaj> kubb, the terminal is your friend...some think it's old fashioned or some such , to use it , but it works because it's closer to the linux gods :)
[20:13] <kubb> BluesKaj: definataly, thanks again bro
[20:13] <BluesKaj> kubb, np :)
[20:14] <daniel> what would the biggest differnces between kubuntu and opensuse be? thinking about trying it
[20:18] <OerHeks> daniel, the name is, the fabulous support is.
[20:18] <daniel> OerHeks: how do you mean, exactly?
[20:21] <OerHeks> daniel, try Kubuntu and Suse side-by-side, and joy the experience.
[20:28] <Assembly> 我该怎么样隐藏自己的IP
[20:29] <roberzim> ciao
[20:29] <roberzim> !list
[20:33] <daniel> whenver i close the screen on my laptop, kubuntu disables network connections. any way to fix that?
[20:44] <s1gsegv> hi, someone here told me a ppa to add to install flash. i forget the ppa. SevenSomething?
[20:44] <s1gsegv> need to do it on another system now :)
[20:47] <OerHeks> s1gsegv, flash 64 bit ? moment ...
[20:47] <bazhang> sevenmachines ?
[20:47] <OerHeks>  ppa:sevenmachines/flash
[20:47] <bazhang> :)
[20:48] <OerHeks> be carefull with this ppa list >> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas
[20:51] <guerrilhaa> is there a way to install kde, without kubuntu?
[20:51] <guerrilhaa> i mean, a package with kde, or i need to install the kubuntu meta
[20:52] <OerHeks> hi guerrilhaa, yes you need to install the meta package for Kubuntu-desktop.
[20:53] <OerHeks> KDE means K desktop environment
[20:55] <s1gsegv> ahh yes thanks
[20:55] <s1gsegv> i am on my lenovo x120e now though
[20:56] <s1gsegv> so I want x86
[20:56] <s1gsegv> i might not have to do anything at all, i havent tried installing flash yet... just barely activated the proprietary fglrx video driver
[20:56] <s1gsegv> everything is smooth so far
[20:56] <s1gsegv> i love this netbook even more now that i have it dual-booting!
[20:56] <OerHeks> nice.
[20:57] <s1gsegv> OerHeks: is sevenmachines just for 64 bit
[20:57] <OerHeks> yes, i believe so. correct me if i am wrong.
[20:57] <s1gsegv> installing flashplugin-installer now
[20:58] <s1gsegv> hopefully this is all that's required
[20:59] <s1gsegv> hm it's downloading ia32-libs
[21:00] <s1gsegv> how can i tell what arch kubuntu things my system is running? and also which edition on kubuntu?
[21:00] <BluesKaj> yes sevenmachines ppa is for 64 bit flash, 32bit in 64bit clothing :)
[21:00] <s1gsegv> lsb_release -d i guess?
[21:01] <s1gsegv> hmm, it doesnt give arch
[21:01] <s1gsegv> uname -a gives Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-11-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 19:02:55 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:01] <s1gsegv> so there's my answer. I will need to add the sevenmachines ppa it looks like right?
[21:02] <BluesKaj> is multiarch available on 11.04 ?
[21:02]  * BluesKaj runs 11.10
[21:03] <OerHeks> lsb_release -a   does not give the arch
[21:05] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, name -a
[21:05] <BluesKaj> uname -a
[21:05] <BluesKaj> is there a method to force kate and dolphin to integrate the system fonts in it's toolbar and menubar when called up as root with krunner. The text in the files is ok, ...this a new bug i seems ..using a large monitor makes it difficult to read
[21:06] <BluesKaj> I'm asking here incase it's a kde4.7 problem that does across more than one kubuntu release
[21:06] <BluesKaj> does this
[21:06] <s1gsegv> beautiful
[21:07] <s1gsegv> all good now
[21:07] <s1gsegv> thanks again guys
[21:07] <s1gsegv> BluesKaj: what's the other package you mentioned yesterday 'nonfree' or restricted or something. i believe it was codecs and other stuff
[21:08] <s1gsegv> whoops, need to ge aptitude installed before i go ay firther
[21:08] <BluesKaj> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:09] <s1gsegv> ttbeautiful
[21:09] <BluesKaj> apt-get is doing a good job now,,,I used aptitude for ages but apt-get is supposedly more up to date now than aptitude
[21:09] <s1gsegv> i'm concerned with aptitude's better dependency handling though
[21:09] <s1gsegv> is that moot as well?
[21:10] <s1gsegv> i also find pkg search and filters much better in aptitude
[21:10] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, yeah that was the prevailing opinion for a long time , but the devs tell me that's no longer the case
[21:11] <s1gsegv> ok
[21:12] <BluesKaj> aptitude still does thejob afaik tho , I haven't heard any complaints , s1gsegv
[21:15] <s1gsegv> wow, flash performance in HD youtube is absolutely asstastic
[21:16] <s1gsegv> going to try removing the proprietary vid driver based on threads ive seen about the default driver working better
[21:18] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, which card / driver ?
[21:22] <s1gsegv> only slightly better on the default driver
[21:22] <s1gsegv> this is an x120e so it has the amd fusion (e-350)
[21:22] <s1gsegv> the proprietary driver from AMD was call fglrx
[21:22] <s1gsegv> it's not a dealbreaker, but I don't have this trouble in windows
[21:22] <s1gsegv> however i believe the windows install is x86
[21:26] <s1gsegv> any ideas how to make the audio management in kde target a different card?
[21:27] <s1gsegv> it's using the wrong one i believe... i just switched cards with alsamixer, cranked it, and now the kde volume control has no effect
[21:28] <s1gsegv> could have something to do with the fact that i did 'sudo alsactl store'
[21:29] <BluesKaj> alsamixer normally chooses whatever card is default in the bios , then player has to be st to see the device as weel , like dev=0 is usually default (analog) then dev-1 is normally the digital out etc
[21:29] <s1gsegv> ahh, solved!
[21:29] <s1gsegv> pretty easy in kmix to select the master device
[21:29] <s1gsegv> yeah this one is weird the digital is first
[21:30] <s1gsegv> then analog
[21:30] <s1gsegv> then some thinkpad 'EC' one. wondering if that's the mic array however alsamixer says there are no recording devices on that device
[21:32] <BluesKaj> capture devices maybe , use F5 to show all
[21:34] <BluesKaj> I use the coax out/spdif , to feed the audio amp digital in for DD or DTS , and then switch to analog for the headphones
[21:36] <BluesKaj> well, newstime ...bbl
[21:48] <guerrilhaa> hello! iv installed kubuntu desktop over my ubuntu installation, but it came in english. is there a way to put my native language as I used gnome?
[21:49] <guerrilhaa> other question, where in kubunt is the place where i look for "hardware modules" that i maybe have not installed?
[22:13] <guerrilhaa> im missing in kde the gnome system > administration > hardware drivers
[22:13] <guerrilhaa> how do i check for new / uninstalled hardware drivers in kde?
[22:14] <claydoh> guerrilhaa: kmenu >  Appications >System > Additional Drivers
[22:18] <Unlimited> I would be curious if anyone knows the coolest theme for kubuntu
[22:26] <guerrilhaa> claydoh, thanks!
[22:26] <claydoh> guerrilhaa:  np
[23:04] <nene> hola
[23:05] <nene> ho
[23:05] <nene> hi