/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/11/#lubuntu.txt

NumbskullMornin' all01:22
leszekhi12:03
pcmanhi12:32
* pcman just installed ubuntu 11.10 to see how it works.12:33
pcmanAfter playing with unity for 3 minutes, I realized that I hate it so much!12:33
pcmanThe worst ubuntu UI ever.12:33
pcman:(12:33
leszekhehe, yeah I have it on my brand new eeepc 1015T and its damn slow with its compiz effects12:34
pcmanslowness is not a problem. I use it on my thinkpad.12:34
leszekthe ui itself isn't so bad if it would work faster12:34
pcmanBut the UI is really...I don't know what to say.12:34
pcmanit's a little bit too creative.12:34
leszekI switched to unity2d which works faster and seems to be more stable12:35
pcmanlooks good, but hard to use.12:35
pcmanI hate it so much!12:35
pcmanInstallation is finished!12:35
pcmantime to reboot.12:35
pcmanapt-get install lubuntu-desktop later!12:35
leszekI don't think its hard to use basically, as I am mostly using only the starters in the launcher or hotkeys12:35
pcmanlol12:35
pcmanleszek: I'm not using unity2d.12:35
pcmanleszek: I'm using the default one in ubuntu.12:36
leszek:)12:36
leszekyeah unity3d basically12:36
pcmanno idea how to use it correctly.12:36
pcmanlet's install lubuntu.12:36
pcmansee you.12:36
leszekpcman: honestly the sense of lenses or how they call the new main menu in ubuntu makes no sense for me at all12:36
leszekre15:04
canidaeevening. i'm trying to make the keyboard layout permanently norwegian (by changing /etc/default/keyboard), but still it keeps reverting back to american layout. anyone have some suggestions?16:11
bindihi16:35
bindiis a p3 833mhz powerful enough for lubuntu16:35
bindiits a laptop.. 256 ram16:36
frankboothbindi should be enough, yeah16:37
frankboothcanidae try this in a terminal (not sure if 'no' is norweigan): setxkbmap -layout no16:40
frankboothif that works, an ugly solution would be to add the command in autostart16:40
bindihow long the install should load for16:40
bindiclicked install ubuntu and its taking a good while16:40
frankboothbindi have patience :)16:42
bindi10 mins16:42
bindiso far16:42
frankboothwait a little longer to be sure, if you have problems with the graphical installer you could always use an alternate cd16:43
bindiis alternate install hard? will it have options to select or do i have to do everything by hand17:05
bindifrankbooth: we ran out of patience, reaallly slow .. trying alternate installer tomorrow17:40
frankboothbindi http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal17:41
frankbooththis guide is good, might want to check it out17:41
frankboothafter install is finished, simply do 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop'17:42
bindiyeah okay17:42
bioterror--no-install-recommends!17:42
frankboothopsie, thx bioterror :)17:43
tomeoAnyone else who has experienced constant freezes of Lubuntu just as you're getting into the os?18:37
tomeo(doesnt matter if I disable gui, still freezes)18:38
bioterrortomeo, check your RAM18:43
bioterrortomeo, if your mem is okay, check your hdd18:43
tomeobioterror: both ubuntu and crunchbang and windows run fine18:44
bioterrorlubuntu is same as your ubuntu18:44
tomeobioterror: if its the same, why are they two different distros?18:45
bioterrorbecouse another one comes with GNOME and another comes with Openbox and LXDE18:45
svkoskinthey are not18:46
bioterrorexactly same kernels and binaries18:46
svkoskinthey use same packages, other installation media provides merely different userspace programs18:46
bioterrorso if you've run memtest86 and you're sure you dont have anything wrong with the hdd, we can start wondering what could cause the freeze18:48
bioterrorbut I'm 100% it's hardware related18:48
bioterror+sure18:48
tomeobioterror: could it be that my install media was corrupt?18:48
bioterrorhave you checked md5?18:48
tomeobioterror: nah, im too big of a noob to work those things just yet18:49
bioterror!md518:49
ubot5To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows18:49
tomeothis was my first attempt at installing linux :)18:49
tomeobioterror: okay I have the md5 sum of my image, but what is it supposed to be?18:52
Numbskull#toybox18:53
bioterrortomeo, http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/11.04/MD5SUMS18:54
tomeobioterror: they add up18:54
bioterrorthat's good18:55
canidaefrankbooth: cheers, that seems to work, i'll just put that in a script that's run when i log in18:56
tomeobioterror: but wouldn't you say its quite odd if there is in fact a hardware error that ubuntu, crunchbang and windows all work?18:56
canidaes/that's run/that runs/18:56
bioterrortomeo, does your LiveCD crash or your installation?18:57
tomeobioterror: neither. after install and reboot Lubuntu works fine. Then when I reboot again it freezes18:57
tomeoso I tried to reinstall18:57
tomeoand exact same thing happened18:57
bioterroryou get just blinking "_"?19:00
tomeobioterror: no blinking, freeze19:00
bioterroryou cannot go to console by pressing CTRL+ALT+f1?19:01
tomeobioterror: nope, and I tried starting it as TEXT so that I didnt have a gui at all. still froze19:01
bioterrorhard case19:11
bioterrortomeo, if you take ubuntu 11.04, it works flawlessly?19:11
tomeobioterror: yes19:11
tomeobioterror: but I dont want to use it as its very slow19:12
tomeoand I hate the UI19:12
bioterroryou can always remove the gnome stuff ;)19:12
tomeoLubuntu was awesome when it worked :)19:12
tomeoEven my multigesture trackpad was working19:12
tomeoSound wasnt working tho, but I bet I couldve got that working somehow19:12
bioterrorusually volume level is low in alsamixer19:13
tomeobioterror: I actually maxed it19:13
tomeoin the terminal version of alsamixer19:13
Soojinheh the panel menu button where you control the width of the bottom bar locked itself and just kept going higher and higher in width so i had to kill it and now my menu is gone ;)19:14
tomeoI think I have to do the hda-intel thing to get the sound working on lubuntu19:14
SoojinI wonder how I can bring it back without restarting my computerr19:14
bioterrorSoojin, goto console and restart lxdm19:15
bioterror:)19:15
bioterrorif you kill panel, you cant run alt+f219:15
bioterrorso only good trick to start that panel is to restart X19:16
Soojinok:)19:16
bioterrorsudo service lxdm restart19:16
Soojinis there any way to actually change the color of the corner clock?19:22
teemperorlittle question, look gtk3-apps native in lubuntu 11.10 ? :)19:22
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bioterrortomeo, I have to ask from jmarsden if there's something different in lubuntu when booting20:13
tomeobioterror: okay21:41
bioterrorbut good night ;)21:43

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