[03:50] <frederick851> g'day
[08:10] <head_victim> Evening all
[08:17] <brez> hello
[08:19] <head_victim> How are you brez 
[08:19] <brez> I'm great -- got stuck with a bit of the flu right before the working week
[08:20] <brez> having a straight jacks to try and kill the germs!
[08:20] <brez> you?
[08:20] <head_victim> Just walked in the door from work so cleaning the inbox
[08:20] <brez> sunday work?
[08:21] <head_victim> I'm a shiftworker so I work 24/7
[08:21] <brez> same, really.
[08:21] <brez> what do you do?
[08:22] <sagaci> brez, staying around for the meeting ?
[08:22] <brez> meeting?
[08:22] <brez> this screen has been attached to this channl for 50 odd days
[08:22] <head_victim> Alarm monitoring. Basically sit in a concrete box all day and make sure everyone does their work
[08:22] <brez> I just randomly check in etc..
[08:23] <brez> oo alarm monitoring.. for an ISP?
[08:23] <head_victim> Nah for a security company
[08:23] <head_victim> Meeting is at 8
[08:23] <brez> ohhh, like house alarms?
[08:23] <brez> I thought you meant network alarms etc..
[08:24] <head_victim> Nah nothing that exciting
[08:24] <brez> sh log | i Serial2:0
[08:25] <head_victim> Heh, meant for another screen?
[08:25] <brez> yep.
[08:25] <brez> I'm on my fiances laptop
[08:25] <head_victim> Another reason to stick with a gui irc client
[08:25] <brez> things don't alt+tab as much as I would like it too.
[08:25] <head_victim> Evening gorilla 
[08:25] <brez> haha, nah irssi is besty!
[08:25] <brez> I can setup irssi proxy and connect via gui client
[08:25] <head_victim> I'm planning on moving to an irssi proxy but keeping the xchat front end.
[08:26] <brez> I just think cli based IRC is better.
[08:26] <brez> I have that setup on here.
[08:26] <brez> one command, then connect to the irssi session proxy
[08:26] <brez> via xchat
[08:26] <head_victim> I'm hoping it will work ok with multi networks and about 25 channels
[08:26] <brez> I don't see the point really
[08:26] <brez> because all the commands get screwed up.
[08:26] <head_victim> Wondering how PMs and notifications will go
[08:27] <brez> exactly the same
[08:27] <brez> but I assume you'll need to connect to each IRC network on a different port
[08:27] <brez> unless you have multiple IP
[08:27] <brez> 'ss on your box.
[08:27] <head_victim> That shouldn't be too difficult to arrange either
[08:27] <head_victim> It's only going to live on the LAN here at home
[08:27] <brez> nope
[08:27] <brez> I don't understand why
[08:27] <brez> you would want to, lol
[08:28] <brez> unless you're wanting to use it like a bouncer.
[08:28] <brez> where it stays live when you shut off the PC running the gui]
[08:28] <head_victim> Trying to move my 24/7 stuff to the server so I can start switching off my desktop to save power
[08:28] <brez> ah ok
[08:28] <head_victim> Power bills suck
[08:28] <brez> why don't u just install bnc software
[08:28] <brez> like miau/znc
[08:28] <head_victim> I've gone from 5 24/7 pc's down to 3 in the last 6 months in this house
[08:28] <head_victim> Trying to make that 1
[08:28] <brez> 5?
[08:28] <brez> what do you need 5 for?
[08:28] <brez> lol
[08:29] <head_victim> 2 desktops for the wife and I each and 1 server.
[08:29] <brez> ok
[08:29] <head_victim> Then I actually calculated how much of the power bill was the computers
[08:29] <brez> lol
[08:29] <brez> I have - 1 PC, 1 media server, 1 laptop and then VPS in AUS/UK
[08:29] <head_victim> So stuffing anything I like running 24/7 on to the server and going to try turning off computers for the first time in 10 years.
[08:30] <head_victim> Actually a low end linode costs about as much as a desktop at home in power bills.
[08:30] <sagaci> head_victim, how about 1 server and 1 desktop dualboot
[08:30] <brez> what state are you in?
[08:30] <head_victim> If I could get decent storage space on a low end linode I'd probably move everything there and bugger the home server off
[08:30] <head_victim> Brisbane, Queensland.
[08:31] <brez> ah ok
[08:31] <head_victim> The problem is a linode is not really a place for photos and documents, etc.
[08:31] <brez> I basically run nothing on these VPS's\
[08:31] <brez> photos/etc/ are on a 2TB external HDD
[08:31] <brez> I don't trust technology
[08:32] <head_victim> I think I could probably impose on some friends for an irssi-proxy on a linode somewhere if I really wanted.
[08:32] <brez> all the server is used for is to run a small ftp / IRC / shellinbox
[08:32] <head_victim> Oh yeah I run raid 10 here at home AND external drive
[08:32] <head_victim> If it doesn't exist in 3 places, it doesn't exist. I just need to work on my offside backup plan better.
[08:32] <brez> if you're happy connecting via ipv6, I may be able to set you one up later.
[08:32] <head_victim> Thinking about setting up an external drive swap with my parents.
[08:33] <brez> the only thing is the VPS is located in the UK, so it may have some latency'
[08:33] <jargonfactory> hi
[08:33] <brez> you wont notice connection via the proxy though
[08:33] <brez> only directly on the cli.
[08:33] <head_victim> Thanks for the offer but I'm actually using it as a learning tool for myself. I'm what you call an "end user" having fun playing with sys admin.
[08:33] <head_victim> jargonfactory: gday.
[08:33] <jargonfactory> head_victim: how's it going.
[08:33] <brez> ok, have fun, I'm going to have some tea!
[08:33] <brez> bbl
[08:33] <head_victim> jargonfactory: not too bad, just got home from work. Yourself?
[08:33] <head_victim> brez: cheerio
[08:34] <jargonfactory> head_victim: not much. just got the notification about a meeting here :-)
[08:34] <head_victim> Ah yeah, will be at 8pm
[08:34] <jargonfactory> ahh right.
[08:34] <jargonfactory> thanks.
[08:35] <head_victim> No worries, http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/192/detail/ is where the agenda and etails are if you wanted a quick look over
[08:35] <head_victim> sagaci: you looked at the new meeting bot yet?
[08:41] <sagaci> yeah kinda, I know it existed, just haven't check out the new syntax, if any
[08:42] <head_victim> It's pretty much the same with more stuff added on top
[08:45] <sagaci> yep, so long as we have a working bot
[08:46] <head_victim> Yeah this way we should actually get the logs
[08:48] <sagaci> looks to be a quick meeting tonight anyhow
[08:49] <head_victim> Yep, not a bad thing every now and then.
[09:04] <gorilla> hi all.
[09:05] <head_victim> How goes gorilla 
[09:05] <gorilla> not too badly... starting to settle into my new workplace.
[09:07] <head_victim> That's a good thing
[09:11] <gorilla> head_victim: true. The world of fiance/stockbroking is odd at times.
[09:12] <head_victim> Every niche market has it's oddities.
[09:13] <gorilla> yep. exactly.
[09:15]  * gorilla is a little amazed.. reported a couple of spamming yahoo groups and received a form receipt.. Now get a survey request from yahoo on their customer service :-/ strange!
[09:16] <head_victim> WB Johnny_Giggles 
[09:17] <Johnny_Giggles> thanks
[09:22] <sagaci> bit over half an hour
[09:37] <tom_a_sparks> hello
[09:38] <head_victim> Evening
[09:40] <tom_a_sparks> how long to go to the meeting?
[09:42] <head_victim> About 15 minutes or so
[09:43] <tom_a_sparks> yay
[09:51] <gorilla> 10 minutes...
[09:52] <head_victim> And no sign of jaddi :D
[09:53] <sagaci> he'll be here
[09:54] <gorilla> making grand entrance? :-)
[09:55] <sagaci> with limo IRC
[09:56] <head_victim> Hah
[09:59] <jaddi27> hi everyone
[09:59] <fabricator4> Hi
[09:59] <tom_a_sparks> hi
[10:00] <fabricator4> Ding  :-)
[10:00] <tom_a_sparks> Dong :)
[10:00] <jaddi27> ok.just let me work out the new syntax for the meeting
[10:01] <jaddi27> #startmeeting UbuntuAu Sept 2011
[10:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Sun Sep 11 10:01:05 2011 UTC.  The chair is jaddi27. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[10:01] <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired
[10:01] <jaddi27> Welcome everyone to the September meeting for UbuntuAu
[10:02] <jaddi27> Please excuse me if the meeting progresses a bit slower than usual, as it is the first time using meetingology for meeting minutes
[10:02] <head_victim> Evening all
[10:02] <fabricator4> Evening
[10:02] <head_victim> jaddi27: no worries, it looks like it's the same as the old one with just a bunch of stuff added.
[10:03] <sagaci> o/
[10:03] <gorilla> yay.. superset is always helpful!
[10:03] <jaddi27> #topic Roll Call
[10:03] <tom_a_sparks> here
[10:03] <fabricator4> Here
[10:03] <gorilla> here
[10:03] <jaddi27> Please everyone say hello if you haven't already done so
[10:03] <sagaci> ello
[10:03] <head_victim> Or you can just lurk :)
[10:03] <sagaci> #lurk
[10:04] <fabricator4> :-)
[10:04] <gorilla> are "ello"s acceptable?
[10:04] <fabricator4> Only in the moaning
[10:04] <head_victim> gorilla: it's just it only logs attendance of people who say something so anything is really fine
[10:06] <head_victim> Hah he's gone
[10:06] <fabricator4> Ooops
[10:06] <head_victim> Too mucuh excitment
[10:06] <fabricator4> :-)
[10:06] <tom_a_sparks> ha
[10:06] <head_victim> jaddi27: welcome back
[10:06] <jaddi27> Xchat froze completely for the first time ever
[10:07] <jaddi27> great time for it to do it
[10:07] <jaddi27> so, do i start the meeting again?
[10:07] <head_victim> Hmmm
[10:07] <head_victim> Maybe try a topic and see if it's still going
[10:07] <jaddi27> #topic Release Party Updates
[10:08] <jaddi27> it is hard to tell if it is still working - I don't get notifications like you did with mootbot
[10:08] <fabricator4> Hah  :-(  Not working?
[10:08] <jaddi27> I will start again
[10:09] <jaddi27> #startmeeting UbuntuAu Sept 2011
[10:09] <meetingology> jaddi27: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
[10:09] <fabricator4> :-)
[10:09] <jaddi27> ok. it is running
[10:09] <head_victim> Try an endmeeting
[10:09] <jaddi27> #endmeeting
[10:09] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Sep 11 10:09:28 2011 UTC.  
[10:09] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2011/ubuntu-au.2011-09-11-10.01.moin.txt
[10:09] <gorilla> heh.. no you will not!
[10:09] <head_victim> Ah so it still had you as chair :/
[10:09] <head_victim> Least we know
[10:09] <jaddi27> Yes, good to know for future reference
[10:10] <jaddi27> Lets begin again
[10:10] <head_victim> Sorry all, we're still learning
[10:10] <sagaci> Ok bye everyone
[10:10] <sagaci> :P
[10:10] <jaddi27> #startmeeting UbuntuAu Sept 2011
[10:10] <meetingology> Meeting started Sun Sep 11 10:10:16 2011 UTC.  The chair is jaddi27. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[10:10] <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired
[10:10] <head_victim> Round 2!
[10:10] <jaddi27> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/192/detail/
[10:10] <jaddi27> That is where the meeting info can be found
[10:10] <jaddi27> #topic Roll Call
[10:10] <tom_a_sparks> here again
[10:10] <gorilla> still here!
[10:10] <fabricator4> Here
[10:11] <jargonfactory> hi
[10:11] <jaddi27> good to hear
[10:11] <jaddi27> #topic Release Party Updates
[10:12] <jaddi27> Our first main topic tonight - upcoming release parties for Oneiric
[10:13] <tom_a_sparks> strange name
[10:13] <jaddi27> Who would like to start off?
[10:13] <head_victim> Yep well I"ll start with Brisbane
[10:13] <head_victim> I'm thinking we do a social event on the sat or sun and then do the installfest a month or so later
[10:14] <jaddi27> oneiric: Of or relating to dreams or dreaming
[10:14] <head_victim> Looking into it the installfest will be at least half a day in itself
[10:14] <tom_a_sparks> jaddi27: ok
[10:15] <fabricator4> Sounds OK.  Any ideas for the venue for the social?
[10:15] <sagaci> I've set an event for Sydney, holding it about a week prior to the Thursday it's released. It's not an installfest or anything quite technical, just a celebration over the oneiric cycle in what we've done and to enjoy the afternoon. Hoping to get a few from around the Sydney suburbs
[10:15] <head_victim> Well people seemed to like the breakky creak hotel so was going to default to there unless someothing better came up
[10:15] <fabricator4> That seems fine.  What the parking like?  (pretty bad as I remember...)
[10:16] <head_victim> Ah ok I hadn't been there before
[10:16] <jargonfactory> sagaci: thanks. i'll try to visit if time permits.
[10:16] <jargonfactory> s/visit/join/ 
[10:16] <fabricator4> Are we talking Sat or Sun here?
[10:16] <tom_a_sparks> ha ha jaddi27 disconects again
[10:17] <jaddi27> that time was not xchat
[10:17] <jaddi27> not working well
[10:17] <sagaci> jargonfactory, yeah pop in for a while if you can. I'll be around for a few hours so whoever turns up can have afternoon tea/coffee, etc
[10:17] <head_victim> fabricator4: open to suggestion
[10:17] <jargonfactory> sagaci: sounds good.
[10:17] <fabricator4> Saturday lunch would suit.  I'll probably be working in Virginia until 11:30, so just a hop down the road.
[10:18] <jaddi27> #chair sagaci head_victim jaddi27 
[10:18] <meetingology> Current chairs: head_victim jaddi27 sagaci
[10:18] <head_victim> Hah that's one way around it :)
[10:18] <jaddi27> just in case I disconnect again
[10:19] <tom_a_sparks> :)
[10:19] <jaddi27> Ok. Are there any more discussions regarding the Oneiric release parties?
[10:19] <head_victim> fabricator4: cool I'll shoot something to the list, please respond and we'll organise it
[10:19] <fabricator4> OK, will do
[10:19] <sagaci> I'll pass an email to the mailing list too about the Sydney release party
[10:20] <head_victim> I've seen a couple of questinos about Melbourne. Anyone here from down there?
[10:20] <jaddi27> #action head_victim to email list about Brisbane release party
[10:20] <meetingology> ACTION: head_victim to email list about Brisbane release party
[10:20] <gorilla> head_victim: I'm in MEL
[10:20] <jaddi27> #action sagaci to email list about Sydney release party
[10:20] <meetingology> ACTION: sagaci to email list about Sydney release party
[10:20] <head_victim> gorilla: intersted in running a release party?
[10:20] <fabricator4> Benny was asking, but he's not here tonight.
[10:21] <head_victim> There was also a question on FaceBook
[10:21] <gorilla> I could just nominate a venue.. I'm a little pressed for time atm.. change of job and the like. 
[10:21] <head_victim> gorilla: no worries. Even just getting some talk on the list about it would help
[10:22] <gorilla> okay.. I'll suggest it again on the list.
[10:22] <jaddi27> #idea gorilla to email list about Melbourne release party
[10:23] <jaddi27> Ready to move on to the next topic?
[10:23] <head_victim> No other cities here?
[10:24] <head_victim> Eastern seaboard it is :)
[10:25] <jaddi27> #topic Translations Drive
[10:25] <jaddi27> sagaci can lead this off, I think
[10:26] <jaddi27> 21.42% of oneiric is left to translate now
[10:26] <jaddi27> sorry, 29.42%
[10:26] <head_victim> I for one am thoroughly impressed with how much has been accomplished in this area
[10:27] <jaddi27> I am in the process of generating a graph showing the progress of translations
[10:27] <sagaci> Anyway, it's getting to the latter part of the release cycle for oneiric, over the packaging an importing and onto the bugs and translations side of development
[10:27] <sagaci> it's up to around ~70% complete, so it's definitely within reach to get this done by 12.04 LTS
[10:27] <sagaci> if you have any time at all to donate towards translating into en_AU, please have a look into translating even some of the smaller packages - it does help a lot
[10:28] <jaddi27> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+lang/en_AU/+index
[10:28] <head_victim> Yeah, 12.04 is a realistic goal. If you have an afternoon spare here and there just post to the list saying oyu'll be around if people want to join the translation effort. Have minijams
[10:28] <sagaci> we need to have most of the work done by december/january due to "proof-reading" and triaging older strings that need to be changed - think wastebin/trash
[10:28] <jaddi27> The translation jam last weekend went well, with at least 3000 strings being translated
[10:30] <sagaci> I've also set up an question on answers.launchpad to add a mailing list for the group. I've tried to email Isopogon in ref: to this but haven't had a response.. may be inactive. It would be good to join both Ubuntu/Launchpad teams to have a unified effort on translations and to update group policy and publish team blueprints
[10:30] <sagaci> link incoming..
[10:31] <sagaci> #link https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/170787
[10:32] <sagaci> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/170787
[10:32] <sagaci> not sure if that's registered but anyway...
[10:32] <head_victim> Yeah it's a bit odd, in other channels it's been a bit more chatty
[10:32] <jaddi27> I think it has registered, but the new system does not show everything that has happened like the old system
[10:33] <sagaci> just to add
[10:34] <sagaci> ubuntu is pretty much done, kubuntu and some command-line, packaging utilities are to be completed, so if you run vanilla ubuntu 11.10, it should be customised to honour the English language at its maximised potential
[10:35] <sagaci> that's the end of my dialogue
[10:35] <jaddi27> You will notice a few inconsistencies still, as mentioned previously, such as Trash, Rubbish Bin, etc
[10:36] <jaddi27> I would also like to say thanks to sagaci for doing so much work on this over the past few months
[10:36] <jaddi27> #topic Team Approval Update
[10:36] <jaddi27> head_victim, I will pass over to you
[10:37] <head_victim> Ok, I'm sorry this has taken so long. I was told the bug approval method was just as effecient as the meeting sort
[10:37] <head_victim> I have been slowly making progress and I've answered a few questions from the council but no set date of when I'll know either way (and then be able to pass on to you all)
[10:38] <head_victim> I'm still hassling them on a regular basis though
[10:38] <jaddi27> Thanks for the update. Is there anything that we can do to assist with the process?
[10:39] <sagaci> #fakeidea spam #ubuntu-locos
[10:39] <head_victim> Not that I can think of really
[10:39] <head_victim> I'd like to see people raise the ideas of sei regular social gatherings at the release parties. Ubuntu Hours are always something I've tried to start around here.
[10:39] <head_victim> semi*
[10:40] <sagaci> I can do one once every three months in Sydney, awaiting demand
[10:40] <sagaci> 2 releases, a winter one and in december, "sprints", if you like
[10:41] <head_victim> I'll working on promotion so I can get into a 9-5 and be able to organise a brisbane one
[10:41] <sagaci> head_victim, should be putting your release party on loco.u.c, even if it isn't concrete yet
[10:42] <head_victim> Yep, only a month away
[10:45] <jaddi27> Are there any more topics for tonight's meeting?
[10:45] <sagaci> Umm, I was going to defer to the mailing list but it seems that the blueprint for localisation will be real and in full flight by 12.04 LTS
[10:46] <jaddi27> #topic Ubuntu Localisation
[10:46] <head_victim> Is there a launchpad blueprint for that?
[10:46] <sagaci> yep
[10:46] <sagaci> one sec
[10:46] <jaddi27> What is involved with localisation
[10:46] <sagaci> jaddi27, translations, default wallpaper, bookmarks, documentation, etc
[10:46] <jaddi27> Ok. Thought it might be that
[10:47] <sagaci> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-cd-localization
[10:47] <sagaci> it's pretty primitive at the moment but it should have more options in the next release
[10:48] <sagaci> personally, I think it should be added to the ubiquity installer but it depends on the amount of changes and various other things
[10:48] <head_victim> Nice, should definitely take that to the list. We can organise to get a background pack together for the artistic types to contribute to.
[10:48] <sagaci> but yet you'll still be able to install/download "regular" ubuntu without everything else added on, if you wish
[10:50] <sagaci> we talked about this briefly last meeting but it's full effect won't be felt/realised until we customise and build/use the isos to see how local ubuntu can get
[10:50] <sagaci> that is all
[10:50] <jaddi27> I think we should set up a wiki page with customisation thoughts for the local version
[10:50] <sagaci> its*
[10:50] <sagaci> great, action please!
[10:51] <tom_a_sparks> second it :)
[10:51] <sagaci> #action ubuntu-au to set up a wiki page with customisation thoughts for the local version
[10:51] <meetingology> ACTION: ubuntu-au to set up a wiki page with customisation thoughts for the local version
[10:51] <head_victim> I think there was a wiki page set up a long time ago for localisation hooked into the translation team
[10:52] <head_victim> I'll try and dig it up later
[10:52] <sagaci> yep, saw that
[10:52] <jaddi27> That would be good
[10:52] <jaddi27> head_victim, What is the latest with the new UbuntuAu Mission Statement
[10:53] <fabricator4> Yes, we had a brief discussion on the list.
[10:53] <head_victim> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/MissionStatement
[10:54] <head_victim> If you look right down the bottom, that's pretty much where I'm happy, what do other people think?
[10:54] <head_victim> "Version 3"
[10:54] <jaddi27> I think it looks good. The only thing I was wondering about was the word 'therefore' in the second sentence
[10:56] <head_victim> Cheer,s I'm hoping we're approaching the final iteration of it soon. 
[10:56] <fabricator4> It seems to have gone from the the specific, back in the direction of the esoteric?
[10:56] <sagaci> catching up to Chrome versioning
[10:57] <fabricator4> _Sounds_ good though.  :-)
[10:57] <head_victim> fabricator4: I checked the original and it didn't seem to vary too much, just spread out more
[10:58] <sagaci> head_victim, like Australia :)
[10:58] <fabricator4> Yes, fair enough. 
[10:58] <head_victim> I meant to shoot it to the list after some discussion with kyphi but just never made it this week yet
[10:59] <jaddi27> #idea head_victim to update the list with update on UbuntuAu Mission Statement
[11:00] <jaddi27> Well, is there anything else for tonight's meeting? 
[11:00] <jaddi27> I think we have got through a fair bit considering the number of agenda items
[11:01] <tom_a_sparks> there was something about documenting events on youtube
[11:02] <jaddi27> Yes, that was brought up at the last meeting I think
[11:02] <jaddi27> I don't think anything has been done towards this yet, but maybe we can get something started soon.
[11:03] <jaddi27> Is there someone who would like to take charge of starting this off?
[11:04] <head_victim> Again, I looked into it but couldn't work it out because YouTUbe appear to be shutting down the Groups section
[11:04] <tom_a_sparks> i'm welling to bouce some ideas of somebody else
[11:05] <tom_a_sparks> there are other video hosters
[11:06] <jaddi27> Ok. tom_a_sparks, would you like to coordinate this? I am also happy to help out
[11:06] <head_victim> Yeah but from what the discussion went none are as public and easy to find
[11:07] <tom_a_sparks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_hosting_services
[11:07] <head_victim> I know some other Ubuntu folk use some for streaming I'll ask around
[11:09] <tom_a_sparks> I know ubuntu-screencasting use blip.tv
[11:09] <head_victim> Quite likely that's what I'm thinking of
[11:09] <head_victim> ustream was another
[11:10] <sagaci> justin.tv, et
[11:10] <sagaci> etc*
[11:11] <tom_a_sparks> or do we host the videos locally 
[11:11] <jaddi27> I think instead of a youtube group, an account could be set up for UbuntuAu that will 'own' the videos for the group
[11:12] <sagaci> head_victim being the owner
[11:12] <head_victim> Ok, I can set it up from the mailing list owner email like the identica one is
[11:12] <head_victim> So that way anyone with moderation rights on the mailing list can action it
[11:12] <head_victim> So it's still "owned" by the team
[11:13] <jaddi27> That would be a good way, I think
[11:13] <sagaci> #info might be an idea to include multiple chairs for future disconnects/blackouts/etc
[11:14] <jaddi27> #action head_victim to set up an UbuntuAu youtube account for sharing videos useful to other Ubuntu users
[11:14] <meetingology> ACTION: head_victim to set up an UbuntuAu youtube account for sharing videos useful to other Ubuntu users
[11:14] <sagaci> have an allocated chair and one/two backups
[11:14] <jaddi27> sagaci, Yes, I will do that from now on. I am not sure how I managed to have 2 failures in one night
[11:14] <sagaci> should defer it to the mailing list - re: CC licensed material only?
[11:15] <head_victim> sagaci: that sounds fair, that's what the wiki is
[11:15] <jaddi27> Yes, that sounds like a good plan. Should limit the issues of copyright that way
[11:15] <head_victim> Makes it easier to remember if it's all the same
[11:15] <head_victim> Does youtube do streaming though?
[11:16] <sagaci> I know it does but I'm not so sure for individuals
[11:16] <tom_a_sparks> you mean lve video feeds?
[11:16] <sagaci> slug was streamed a month or two ago
[11:16] <head_victim> tom_a_sparks: yeah, some people wanted that ability to remotely participate in events
[11:17] <tom_a_sparks> you would be looking at a icecast server
[11:19] <tom_a_sparks> I've heard ustream.tv can do it
[11:19] <head_victim> Hmm, leaning towards using that for both then if it can do it
[11:20] <jaddi27> justin.tv can also do live streaming
[11:21] <jaddi27> It looks like ustream.tv is not free
[11:21] <sagaci> depends what you're doing it for and if you only want audio or video too
[11:22] <sagaci> video would be a pain, due to bandwidth pretty much anywhere in Aus
[11:22] <jaddi27> Yes, that is trus
[11:22] <jaddi27> *true
[11:23] <jaddi27> So maybe do youtube for now, and then investigate a live streaming service as well for the one off events we want to hold?
[11:23] <head_victim> Sounds good
[11:24] <jaddi27> #idea investigate live streaming services for future group events
[11:24] <sagaci> end of meeting?
[11:25] <jaddi27> As it is nearly 9:30pm, I think I will close
[11:25] <head_victim> Yeah it's starting to get that way
[11:25] <jaddi27> #endmeeting
[11:25] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Sep 11 11:25:07 2011 UTC.  
[11:25] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2011/ubuntu-au.2011-09-11-10.10.moin.txt
[11:25] <sagaci> log looks ok
[11:26] <jaddi27> Yes, it is much better formatting
[11:26] <jaddi27> The html version doesn't seem to work for me
[11:27] <head_victim> Sweet, so you two happy enough with the new bot after the first little hiccup?
[11:27] <jaddi27> Yes, it seems to work well
[11:28] <jaddi27> I like how is shows the actions 
[11:29] <sagaci> summaries are good but I'd rather the info double up in the chat, so you know it has gone through, just a personal preference
[11:30] <jaddi27> Yes, that is true
[11:31] <jaddi27> I think it is supposed to do private messaging in the future, but it hasn't been implemented yet
[11:31] <jaddi27> I will create the next meeting on l.u.c
[11:33] <jaddi27> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/212/detail/
[11:35] <jaddi27> sagaci, I have put you down as chair
[11:36] <sagaci> yep, and I'll chair head_victim jaddi27 for next meeting when we start
[11:36] <jaddi27> Ok, sounds good
[11:36] <head_victim> No worries
[11:36] <head_victim> Sunday 9th
[11:37] <head_victim> I'll actually be available again
[11:39] <sagaci> head_victim, note to self, click agenda item then select delete agenda item to delete it!
[11:39] <head_victim> Hah nice work
[11:39] <sagaci> in re: Aug meeting
[11:39] <head_victim> Well I have to be awake at 4am again so I should head off
[11:39] <sagaci> righteo cya
[11:40] <jaddi27> head_victim, See you later
[11:40] <head_victim> Thanks for the work tonight. I'll work on my action items this week and mail the list accordingly. Look forward to hearing it all
[11:42]  * sagaci fixed Aug meeting clutter
[11:42] <head_victim> Cheers, Night all
[11:42] <fabricator4> Goodnight
[11:44] <sagaci> night
[11:56] <jaddi27> sagaci, Anything you would like me to do in relation to translating, loco, etc?
[11:58] <sagaci> not anything specific, I mean, I'd just like these 117,000 or so translations to just disappear
[11:59] <sagaci> ideally I'd like to administer the en_AU translations and link them to the launchpad ones... ideally :)
[11:59] <jaddi27> Ok. I will wave my wand, and it should be done by next year
[11:59] <jaddi27> I will have more time later in the week to help do more translating
[12:00] <sagaci> yep, I'd like to see us under 100,000 by release
[12:00] <sagaci> but that's still 100,000 we need to do by march next year
[12:00] <jaddi27> Yes, it is a lot
[12:00] <sagaci> I've been on a pretty good roll this week
[12:00] <jaddi27> Yes, you certainly have been
[12:01] <jaddi27> I really wanted to roll out my graphing script to show how well the translation effort is going
[12:01] <jaddi27> but I haven't had time to properly implement it
[12:02] <sagaci> yeah I was wishing I'd done something like that
[12:02] <sagaci> are you manually getting the data?
[12:04] <jaddi27> No, I have a regex script
[12:04] <jaddi27> So in a way is it manually getting the data
[12:05] <sagaci> ah ok, so it runs daily?
[12:07] <jaddi27> yes, it will in the end
[12:08] <sagaci> so will it do history or just when you finish it
[12:08] <jaddi27> It will only have data from when it is first turned on
[12:09] <jaddi27> so at the moment I might do manual data, until i have it finished
[12:11] <sagaci> i'm pretty busy this week too, I'll still be able to do 500 strings here and there but nothing like the 10,000+ I did this past week
[12:13] <jaddi27> Yes, that is understandable
[12:17] <sagaci> still doing a couple hundred strings on the chromium-browser package. I'm in a web-browser for a significant time so I like everything au-ed
[12:18] <jaddi27> It is good to see the translations filtering through into what we are using
[12:20] <sagaci> yeah head_victim has done upstream xchat but hasn't been able to get a response so far... and it isn't translatable in lp
[12:25] <jaddi27> That is annoying to hear
[12:25] <jaddi27> hopefully there will be some way to do it eventually
[12:28] <sagaci> well looking forward to the next couple of weeks, ubuntu-au reapproval, maybe and 12.04 adjective animal
[12:28] <sagaci> hopefully it's placid
[12:28] <sagaci> but I'm assuming it's going to be something more exotic
[12:29] <jaddi27> it will be interesting to see what they chose
[12:29] <jaddi27> when does it get announced?
[12:30] <sagaci> well karmic was in Jan 09, it's usually 2-3months out of the final release but oneiric was fairly late, it'll have to be done soon since oneiric is one month away
[12:32] <jaddi27> yes, that is true
[12:32] <sagaci> jaddi27, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+lang/en_AU/+index?batch=75&memo=675&start=675
[12:33] <sagaci> anything on that batch... I've just been mowing down pages of strings, it's a few thousand on there but a bit everynow and then helps
[12:34] <jaddi27> Ok. I will work on that when I have some spare time
[12:34] <jaddi27> I have also been doing gcc-4.6, so I will work on that also
[12:35] <jaddi27> I will be off now. When I have the graph working (or some data to view), I will let you know
[12:36] <sagaci> righteo, cya later
[12:36] <jaddi27> bye
[13:34] <democrezy> i am a new user .I install some updates from update manager in ubuntu 11.04 then software centre got disabled and also update manager was not responding.When i restarted ubuntu, keyboard was not detected and i had to reconnect keyboard cable.Then i reinstall ubuntu. Can anybody explain me what was the problem?