[00:00] <ixxu> urlin2u, ofc it's still there but i can't find the active process
[00:00] <urlin2u> ixxu, look in the side panel, and check this link  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/unity-systray-is-back-themable-top.html
[00:00] <urlin2u> ixxu, click on it in the panel things are different in unity.
[00:01] <ixxu> urlin2u, it isn't in the sidepannel, i'll check your link
[00:02] <shaun413> if i check something in compiz either the top bar goes all wierd or i loose everthing off the screen
[00:03] <urlin2u> ixxu, I find the same problem your having on a web search.
[00:03] <shaun413> can anyone help?
[00:04] <ixxu> urlin2u, i didn't post and only searched for common problem currently i'm reading your link
[00:04] <ixxu> urlin2u, i found that link http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily-configure-ubuntus-unity-interface-confity-linux/ but wasn't sure if that fits for me
[00:05] <shaun413> i really want some efeects can someone help me
[00:05] <ikonia> what effects do you want
[00:06] <shaun413> idk anytihng
[00:06] <ikonia> then you don't want anything
[00:06] <ikonia> if you don't know what you want, you don't know what you're missing
[00:06] <shaun413> i want all the effects
[00:06] <ikonia> all what effects ?
[00:06] <worldwalker> I'm having an issue installing new packages, and I keep getting an error related to 'aptdaemon,' is this the right chan for that question?
[00:06] <shaun413> the wobbly the fire
[00:06] <ikonia> if you don't even know whats there how can you say I want them all
[00:07] <shaun413> rotating cube thing
[00:07] <ikonia> shaun413: then you need to look into compiz
[00:07] <shaun413> i have it
[00:07] <shaun413> it crashes untiy whe i use it
[00:07] <ikonia> shaun413: what's the issue then ?
[00:07] <ikonia> shaun413: not uncommon
[00:07] <gentoo-intel> shaun413, kubuntu has more effects
[00:08] <ikonia> it doesn't
[00:08] <gentoo-intel> shaun413, i think youll get bored of them all after like 1 minute though
[00:08] <gentoo-intel> so tacky
[00:08] <ikonia> it has a different engine, they are pretty much the same in terms of effects number
[00:08] <sweetandy> I disable every possible effect. It's cute, but completely worthless.
[00:08] <shaun413> ok\
[00:08] <shaun413> wee then what about prorams?
[00:09] <gentoo-intel> shaun413, you have to know what you want
[00:09] <gentoo-intel> no one can tell you random stuff to install
[00:09] <shaun413> graphics and science
[00:09] <ixxu> urlin2u, in you link there is written something about the unity launcher, where should i find it ?
[00:09] <urlin2u> shaun413, you might try try #compiz  trying to get a hand hold through compiz is not really gonna happen to be honest.
[00:10] <worldwalker> So, when I'm in the ubuntu software center and I try to install a program, I get a "an unhandleable error occured" message
[00:10] <gentoo-intel> shaun413, gimp is an image editor, blender does 3d stuff
[00:10] <shaun413> yes i know
[00:10] <mrdeb> gentoo-intel: is gentoo good
[00:10] <gentoo-intel> of course
[00:10] <worldwalker> Which is referring to "a programming error in aptdaemon"
[00:11] <worldwalker> and since I'm a bit of a newb to ubuntu/linux I'm not quite sure where to go from here
[00:11] <RvPup> trying to install puppy linux (frugal) but im told that ubuntus grub doesnt play well with others ...?
[00:11] <shaun413> ok so what sciency programs?
[00:11] <urlin2u> ixxu, the left side panel is the unity launcher
[00:11] <ikonia> RvPup: who told you that
[00:11] <dr_willis> worldwalker:  is this a new install?
[00:11] <Luig1> Is there a way (in bash) to call an arbitrary program X times?
[00:11] <RvPup> puppy irc
[00:11] <worldwalker> dr_willis yes
[00:11] <ikonia> RvPup: I don't see them telling you that
[00:11] <worldwalker> I've only installed a few things so far
[00:11] <urlin2u> fermulator, you get the pm info?
[00:11] <gentoo-intel> shaun413, sciency as in what?
[00:11] <ixxu> urlin2u, they are showing a config interface fort that, that what i am looking for
[00:12] <RvPup> something about grub 1 and 2 ??? not sure what they meant
[00:12] <shaun413> idk just cool programs
[00:12] <dr_willis> worldwalker:  from a terminal you may want to do a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-upgrade' that should update everything and may fix any known bugs/issues you are experienceing
[00:12] <worldwalker> Ok I'll give it a shot, thanks
[00:12] <ikonia> RvPup: there is an issue in the way ubuntu uses grub2, it's config files are held in /etc on the ubuntu disk, which means updates to puppy won't be able to touch the grub config, however as puppy is quite static I don't see this as a problem
[00:12] <urlin2u> ixxu, this is not an area I can really advise in other then give links and hope you will figure it out.
[00:13] <RvPup> i just got ubuntu 10.10 installed thanks to shaunlewis expert advice ....now am trying to add puppy to the mix
[00:13] <ixxu> urlin2u, ok thanks a lot anyway you helped me :)
[00:13] <shaun413> where is everyone getting 10.10?
[00:13] <moymoy> Anyone not idle?
[00:14] <urlin2u> ixxu, sometimes all we can do is point and say wow look at that. :D
[00:14] <shaun413> 10.04 is the newest isnt it?
[00:14] <worldwalker> dr_willis: I'm still getting the same issue
[00:14] <fermulator> urlin2u: yes thanks, sorry afk once in a while :-0
[00:14] <worldwalker> The only bit from the 'details' that looks familiar is the ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[00:15] <shaun413> isnt 10.04 the newest?
[00:15] <ixxu> urlin2u, yeah i understand, i read a lot of text in the last 10hours ;-)
[00:15] <zachk> 11.04 perhaps
[00:15] <ciy4ent> 11.04
[00:15] <worldwalker> I remember seeing an error earlier about that when i was trying to install some proprietary stuff
[00:15] <terr_> shaun413: I found it in the ubuntu web site.  Its there.  I just couldn't get the USB formatted and loaded properly and I know how dd works!  and the boot loaders.
[00:15] <glamorblue> hi
[00:15] <urlin2u> shaun413, http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[00:15] <shaun413> i have 10.04
[00:15] <worldwalker> dr_willis any thoughts?
[00:15] <gentoo-intel> shaun413, 10.04 is fine
[00:16] <ellogovern> need a little help
[00:16] <gentoo-intel> its an lts too
[00:16] <shaun413> i just got it today though
[00:16] <moymoy> Anyone know how to "add/subtract to/from path" like you can do with selections (in GIMP)?
[00:16] <shaun413> and there is a 10.10??
[00:16] <RvPup> so i can just use puppys installer and ubuntu wont care what i do ?
[00:16] <urlin2u> shaun413, 10.04 is the longterm support the highr the number the newer the release.
[00:16] <shaun413> i want the new one
[00:16] <ikonia> RvPup: yes, just make sure you know which OS's grub you are using
[00:16] <shaunlewis> shaun413, 10.10 is currently beta, and therefore not recommended for general use unless you know what you are doing
[00:16] <shaun413> oh
[00:16] <shaun413> ok then
[00:16] <shaunlewis> 10.04 is the latest
[00:16] <Pici> shaunlewis: No. 10.10 is not beta.
[00:17] <shaun413> what about 10.5
[00:17] <urlin2u> shaun413, http://www.ubuntu.com/
[00:17] <worldwalker> Any thoughts on a aptdaemon error? Sorry to keep asking
[00:17] <Kainore> aint 11.04 out ?
[00:17] <RvPup> 11.04 is the lateset but it wont connect my wire less so i grabbed an old copy of 10.10 i had
[00:17] <ikonia> 11.04 is the current ubuntu release
[00:17] <Pici> shaun413, shaunlewis: Ubuntu release numbers are named for the YEAR.MONTH of release, and we release every 6 months.
[00:17] <gentoo-intel> shaun413, ubuntu goes 04 then 10
[00:17] <urlin2u> shaunlewis, your incorrect in several areas there.
[00:17] <terr_> shaun413: I have a dead machine which looks like won't post and I'm tyring to get the old IDE drive on a PI 200 mHz and do a CLI install - which should work just fine!
[00:17] <shaunlewis> my appologises, 11.10
[00:18] <shaun413> so 10.4 is newer?
[00:18] <urlin2u> shaunlewis, 11.10 is in development 11.04 is the latest , 10.04 was the last long term. :D
[00:18] <Pici> !LTS
[00:18] <shaun413> i mean 11.4
[00:18] <moymoy> Anyone know how to "add/subtract to/from path" like you can do with selections (in GIMP)?
[00:18] <shaun413> i have 11.4
[00:19] <urlin2u> shaun413, yes 11.04 is the latest but not a LTS
[00:19] <shaun413> ok
[00:19] <urlin2u> terr_, to low of a cpu for ubuntu.
[00:19] <worldwalker> Can someone give me a hand with an 'aptdaemon' error?
[00:20] <urlin2u> worldwalker, we ask for the erroes in a pastebin.
[00:20] <urlin2u> errors*
[00:21] <worldwalker> ok. (what is a pastebin, sorry X| )
[00:21] <terr_> urlin2u: not for CLI linux that I know of.  I just need to get the HDD bootable and use Rsync
[00:21] <urlin2u> terr_, p1 200mhz?
[00:21] <urlin2u> terr_, a cli only good luck.
[00:22] <terr_> urlin2u: it runs.  Old as the hills.
[00:22] <terr_> urlin2u: the athalon 2300+ died!
[00:22] <urlin2u> terr_, I would run puppy linux.
[00:23] <terr_> urlin2u: I jsut want to get a boot sector onto the HDD  plus the os
[00:23] <worldwalker> urlin2u: Aptdaemon error: http://pastebin.com/s7hFKrJb
[00:23] <worldwalker> I get it whenever I try to install something from the ubuntu software center
[00:23] <terr_> urlin2u: I guess the other option for that puter is recycling
[00:25] <urlin2u> worldwalker, several ideas here I would go to synaptic look in the broken package filter.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610154
[00:26] <alazare619> whats the terminal command to remove a folder its not rm...
[00:26] <urlin2u> terr_, I'm used to a desktop, so I roll that way.
[00:26] <urlin2u> alazare619, what is the folder?
[00:27] <terr_> urlin2u: I am too.  I want to u/g this desktop but I want to test the replacement 1st
[00:27] <forrestv> anybody know how i can make grub not wait indefinitely on startup?
[00:27] <forrestv> i don't have a keyboard to press enter with
[00:28] <ixxu> urlin2u, compiz config from the ubuntu packages helped me, now i can config the panel... at all a nice feature but no solve ;D
[00:28] <alazare619> hsper_root
[00:28] <gentoo-intel> forrestv, it should be like 10 secs, or 30
[00:29] <terr_> Nuther problem.  I am getting a #python bitch.  Says I have to register with freenode.  I have.  I get a cryptic message:  Cannot send to Channel.  Like I must register.  Well I have been registered for like over 5 years
[00:29] <urlin2u> forrestv, you may need to run a sudo update-grub  look at this link.  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-the-grub-menu-timeout-on-ubuntu/
[00:30] <urlin2u> ixxu, I think filezilla is not minimizing correctly in Unity is what I have seem=n on the web search
[00:30] <ixxu> urlin2u, yeah propably
[00:30] <urlin2u> seen*
[00:30] <shaunlewis> alazare619, rm -r <dir> will delete the directory and all non-write protected files under it, so be careful!
[00:30] <alazare619> its in /tmp
[00:30] <alazare619> i just counldnt remember the command off hand
[00:31] <xsznix> y demented
[00:31] <ixxu> urlin2u, where is the best place to report bugs for ubuntu ?
[00:31] <urlin2u> ixxu, launchpad, you just need to get a account.
[00:31] <xangua> ixxu: launchpad
[00:31] <ixxu> thanks
[00:33] <ixxu> is it possible to learn firefox to go back on the "backspace" button it's probably working in nautilus
[00:34] <ixxu> nautilus-open-terminal is always closed on the next restart of it, is there a way to get it stable ?
[00:35] <moymoy> Anyone know how to "add/subtract to/from path" like you can do with selections (in GIMP)?
[00:37] <zykotick9> terr_, do you see "-NickServ- You are now identified for terr" when you first connect?
[00:37] <zykotick9> ixxu, what do you mean "n-o-t is always closed on the next restart"?  When you right click in nautilus you don't see "open in terminal"?
[00:39] <ixxu> zykotick9, i did never see this... i missed that function i tried with suse before ubuntu
[00:40] <knightvoid> anyone familiar with compiz, help me get it to work
[00:40] <ixxu> zykotick9, after installing the nautilius-open-terminal the terminal was in included in the "explorer" upper half was terminal, lower half was file explorer
[00:40] <zykotick9> ixxu, did you install the nautilus-open-terminal?
[00:40] <ixxu> zykotick9, yes
[00:40] <terr_> zykotick9: yes.  I also can type in /msg nickserv identify blah.  Works
[00:41] <zykotick9> ixxu, sorry, i've never seen nautilus-open-terminal as embedded, it's always opened a new terminal window for me?
[00:41] <zykotick9> terr_, ask in #freenode perhaps?
[00:41] <aeon-ltd> knightvoid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz also ask in #compiz for more help (but ubuntu specific ask here)
[00:41] <ixxu> zykotick9, i'll reinstall and take a screenshot
[00:42] <terr_> zykotick9: hey thanks.  But can you post a message to the python ppl.  I'm looking for a one page cheat sheet
[00:42] <zykotick9> terr_, you'll have to post for yourself, I don't want to try to relay for you.  Good luck.
[00:43] <ixxu> zykotick9, now it's working fine... lol... thanks anyway
[00:43] <terr_> zykotick9: I'm blocked!  I can't!
[00:43] <zykotick9> ixxu, glad it's working.
[00:43] <zykotick9> terr_, so ask in #freenode then
[00:43] <ixxu> i was happy about the embedded one... now it's gone
[00:43] <ixxu> ^^
[00:44] <zykotick9> ixxu, i don't ever remember seeing it embedded, perhaps it wasn't n-o-t but something else that did that?
[00:44] <ixxu> zykotick9, i restarted nautilus now it's embedded again
[00:45] <ixxu> zykotick9, not something that i installed
[00:45] <zykotick9> ixxu, i've used n-o-t for years and never seen that behaviour?  strange, well glad it's working for ya.
[00:46] <ixxu> zykotick9, http://i52.tinypic.com/4hy3o2.jpg that's how it looks until next restart
[00:47] <zykotick9> ixxu, that's kinda neat, never seen that before.
[00:48] <ixxu> zykotick9, yeah dunno would be ok for me as long it's running stable ^^
[00:48] <OerHeks> ixxu looks like nautilus-terminal >> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nautilus-terminal-an-integrated-terminal-for-nautilus.html
[00:48] <zykotick9> ixxu, i don't think that stable has anything do to with Ubuntu ;)
[00:51] <ixxu> OerHeks, you are right, just wondering why it always apperas when i install the nautilus-open-terminal
[00:51] <ixxu> OerHeks, not a good idea to run both of them at the same time ?
[00:51] <ixxu> zykotick9, better said constant :p
[00:51] <OerHeks> no problem, you can open as many terminals as you like
[00:52] <ixxu> but than one of the packages stops working for me
[00:52] <ixxu> i'll see and report
[00:56] <kasi> how can I hide the top panel in unity? I can set the opaqueness value, but I can't set it to hide
[00:56] <kasi> I would like to hide it like the launcher panel on the side
[00:58] <ixxu> kasi, try to get compiz via the packages there you find a tool for the unity
[00:58] <kasi> ixxu, I have ccsm installed
[00:58] <kasi> I didn't find the option in unity to hide the top panel
[00:59] <urlin2u> kasi, you can't
[00:59] <kasi> urlin2u, so I have to use classic then?
[00:59] <urlin2u> kasi, if you want to hide the top panel yes.
[01:00] <kasi> urlin2u, tx
[01:01] <trevs> join #riak
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[01:16] <schwiz2010> can anyone help me add the include files to my system path for c++?  I am trying to use a command like "find /usr/include/ -type d -printf ":%p"" in my .bashrc but I get "No such file or directory" when I try to save it to a viaribale
[01:16] <poolbeck> hey, just upgraded to 11.10. worse linux experience in my life, sorry
[01:16] <zewm> Why?
[01:16] <bazhang> poolbeck, #ubuntu+1 for that
[01:16] <xangua> poolbeck: don't upgrade to a beta release next time then...
[01:16] <poolbeck> nothing but crashes
[01:17] <milamber> schwiz2010: what c++ files?
[01:17] <poolbeck> panel crash, compiz crash, unity crash
[01:17] <crimsonmane> i have on this computer windows7, ubuntu10.04, and ubuntu current beta. how can i see which partition contains what so that I can use GParted to remove all but the current beta?
[01:17] <poolbeck> never seen anything like it!
[01:17] <xangua> poolbeck: stop that please
[01:17] <bazhang> poolbeck, this is not the correct channel for 11.10
[01:18] <schwiz2010> milamber the include files needed to use standard library stuff stdexcept, iostream, etc
[01:18] <poolbeck> sorry, not meant to be negative, its just my experience of beta
[01:18] <Vesuven> Is there anyway to make my Ubuntu partition bigger? When I click on Places > Home Folder, I only have 5.9 gb available
[01:18] <crimsonmane> poolbeck, your issues may be hardware specific. i've been using beta since release with only minor issues.
[01:18] <Miram> I was just going to ask this as well^
[01:18] <milamber> schwiz2010: did you install the build-essential package?
[01:19] <crimsonmane> vesuven and miram, find GParted in the software center
[01:19] <Miram> I've done that, just wondering if there's anything else I should be looking out for as well
[01:19] <schwiz2010> milamber not that I'm aware of.. just apt-get build-essential?
[01:19] <poolbeck> ok, thanks crimsonmane, i'll check beta channel
[01:19] <Vesuven> crimsonmane: I tried gparted, couldn't understand how to make my partition bigger with it
[01:19] <milamber> schwiz2010: sudo apt-get build-essential
[01:20] <Miram> I believe I have to boot to cd in order to increase the partition I'm using right now?
[01:20] <milamber> schwiz2010: install*
[01:20] <milamber> !gparted | Miram
[01:20] <crimsonmane> miriam, no. run GParted. click the partition. at the top of the window is an arrow button
[01:20] <Miram> Ok
[01:20] <schwiz2010> says that it was already installed
[01:21] <urlin2u> Miram, yes for the live cd to resize turn off the swap as well.
[01:21] <Miram> ok
[01:21] <crimsonmane> i have on this computer windows7, ubuntu10.04, and ubuntu current beta. how can i see which partition contains what so that I can use GParted to remove all but the current beta?
[01:21] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, you want to remove what exactly and keep what exactly.
[01:22] <crimsonmane> urlin2u i would like to remove the old ubuntu and the windows7
[01:22] <crimsonmane> i would like to keep the beta ubuntu
[01:22] <crimsonmane> the windows is easy to find. file system ntfs
[01:22] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, boot to the beta open gparted turn off the swao and delete to your hearts content.
[01:23] <urlin2u> swap
[01:23] <Vesuven> Ok, I ran gparted. I have /dev/sda2 (Extended) dev/sda5 (ext4) dev/sda6 (linux-swap) dev/sda1 (ntfs) and unallocated
[01:23] <crimsonmane> urlin2u won't this also delete the beta partition?
[01:23] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, not if you dont delete its partition.
[01:23] <Miram> I am at the same screen as Vesuven
[01:23] <crimsonmane> urlin2u that's my question. how do i know which partition its on?
[01:24] <qin> crimsonmane: in beta: sudo fdisk -l to see mount points
[01:24] <crimsonmane> miram and vesuven, click a partition you want to resize.
[01:24] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, you will be deleting partitions, if you want to resize the beta use a live cd.  I assume that the beta is not a wubi install here.
[01:24] <crimsonmane> at the top of the screen next to the red circle is an arrow
[01:24] <Miram> Alrighty, this one is locked
[01:24] <poolbeck> can you move the unity panel to the bottom of the screen? thanks
[01:24] <studentz> crimsonmane first backup, second if you prefer GUI boot from CD , if you are comfortable with cli change the run level and unmount the  partitions
[01:24] <Miram> sorry, it just shows a key
[01:24] <urlin2u> Miram, you have to use a live cd.
[01:24] <Miram> Alright then
[01:25] <Vesuven> so I can't resize without a live cd?
[01:25] <urlin2u> Miram, if you resize from the left end upo=you will probably have to reinstall grub to the mbr.
[01:25] <boourns> how difficult is it to change from using mysql package to a source version?  i want to recompile with sphinx.  can i retain my databases+users or do i have to backup and restore them?
[01:26] <Miram> I'm sorry urlin2u, I don't know what that means
[01:26] <crimsonmane> vesuven... i know he's saying you can't do it without a live cd, and that doesn't make sense to me. i'm able to do it with gparted
[01:26] <crimsonmane> if yours has a key instead of the arrow thing, maybe try updated the software?
[01:26] <urlin2u> Miram, when you looka t a partition there  is a left end and a right end.
[01:26] <Vesuven> crimsonmane may I pm u?
[01:26] <crimsonmane> yes
[01:26] <urlin2u> Miram, left equals the start right =end
[01:28] <redboat> Can someone help with this problem the error occurs when i issue the make command I am trying to install the drivers for the FTDI FT232RL chip...  fatal error: /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic-pae/build/include/linux/modversions.h
[01:29] <urlin2u> !pm | Miram
[01:29] <poolbeck> please can you consider making the unity panel movable to the bottom of the screen or along any axis of the monitor. i am not on my own requesting this. in fact it seems completely logical http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[01:30] <Miram> I did not realize that, sorry. Only meant to cut down on clutter
[01:30] <crimsonmane> poolbeck, it's a beta. these things are considered. you can probably already to it with command line edits or something
[01:31] <bazhang> poolbeck, this is for 11.10 and thats #ubuntu+1 not here, as you know
[01:31] <poolbeck> sure, that's the beauty of o/s :-) might have to find out more specifics on this, thanks
[01:31] <crimsonmane> miram, check what version gparted you are using. i have 0.8.1
[01:32] <Miram> I have 0.7.0
[01:32] <crimsonmane> in the software center, i chose the second listing.
[01:33] <poolbeck> if there was life on that channel, I might consider it and since unity is in 11.04, i don't see you issue
[01:33] <zewm> What's a nice clean GUI based irc client these days? (I'm currently using irssi in a terminal window)
[01:34] <Miram> I will get the second listing going and then talk to you
[01:34] <crimsonmane> zewm - PIDGIN :)
[01:34] <DarkStar1> I'm using colloquy atm :)
[01:34] <ixxu> or xchat
[01:34] <DarkStar1> but otherwise P-I-D-G-I-N!!!
[01:34] <celltech> Is there a program I can use to make my thumbdrive a bootdisk for any iso I have?
[01:34] <crimsonmane> zewm Pidgin will connect you to every messenger service at one time. it's very clean. i choose it over empathy
[01:34] <xangua> !unetbootin | celltech
[01:35] <bazhang> celltech, any iso? no
[01:35] <Chamunks> why is unity not giving me my compiz enhancements I have two sapphire radeon 6850's
[01:35] <Chamunks> this should work :P
[01:35] <crimsonmane> chamunks: file a bug report for .that
[01:35] <zewm> How well does Empathy handle IRC? I'm using it as my IM client currently.
[01:35] <celltech> Not what I'm asking at all. I don't want to instal ubuntu. I have an iso of windows for someone and I want to use my thumbdrive as the cd
[01:35] <Chamunks> Also its not detecting my second radeon 8650
[01:35] <crimsonmane> empathy handles IRC very well, but is not "clean" like pidgin is
[01:35] <Chamunks> crimsonmane, eeeeh i'm not sure how to do that.
[01:35] <Vesuven> I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 32 bit, downloading adobe air, which file should I get? .bin, .deb, .rpm or YUM?
[01:36] <bazhang> celltech, ##windows not here
[01:36] <zewm> hrmm I'll give pidgin a try then
[01:36] <bazhang> Vesuven, deb
[01:36] <crimsonmane> zewm if you don't like pidgin, i will eat my tie :)
[01:36] <Vesuven> bazhang: thanks
[01:36] <zewm> I'm holding you to that!
[01:36] <urlin2u> Vesuven, just install the ubuntu-restricted-extras   for flash and plugins needed.
[01:36] <MonkeyDust>  I prefer irssi
[01:36] <celltech> Interesting. Ok. How about this question. I run a wifi network at my house. How can I find "spy" on it and see the traffic comming in an out. I want it to remain open. but I want to be able to monitor it
[01:37] <zewm> I love irssi. I'm just interested in seeing how a GUI based client looks. I just updated to 11.04 and have the bare minimum installed
[01:37] <zewm> .
[01:37] <urlin2u> celltech, way off topic
[01:37] <celltech> awesome. I'll go find help with people that know a thing or 2
[01:37] <crimsonmane> zewm i swear by Pidgin. first thing i do for anyone who gets into linux is remove empathy and replace it with pidgin
[01:37] <xangua> urlin2u: adobe air != adobe flash
[01:37] <xangua> !partner
[01:37] <xangua> you can get and keep adobe air updates from the partner repo Vesuven
[01:38] <urlin2u> xangua, ?
[01:38] <crimsonmane> urlin he said adobe air does not equal adobe flash
[01:38] <zewm> brb on pidgin
[01:38] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, thought it was a mistaken identity. :D
[01:38] <crimsonmane> lol
[01:39] <crimsonmane> welcome back zewm
[01:39] <zewm1> ty
[01:39] <DarkStar1> what were you using before zewm ?
[01:39] <zewm> irssi
[01:39] <zewm> in terminal
[01:40] <DarkStar1> Oh...
[01:40] <zewm> crimsonmane: Can you edit the way the timestamp appears?
[01:40] <MonkeyDust> irssi is really practical, in combination with screen
[01:41] <crimsonmane> yes zewm.
[01:41] <zewm> I love irssi as a terminal client
[01:41] <zewm> I was previously a BitchX / IrcII user (back when I ran slackware in the late 90s)
[01:43] <flodine> ? is this ubuntu 11.10  gnome and unity mixed?
[01:43] <crimsonmane> tdutra #ubuntu+1
[01:44] <bazhang> flodine, #ubuntu+1 please
[01:45] <MonkeyDust> ha
[01:45] <MonkeyDust> pidgin
[01:45] <crimsonmane> you know you like it
[01:45] <MonkeyDust2> test
[01:46] <bazhang> !test > MonkeyDust2
[01:48]  * MonkeyDust2 logs out to see what happens
[01:48] <studentz> best toolkit for C++ QT  or GTKmm?
[01:48] <xangua> !best | studentz
[01:51] <crimsonmane> ... what was the command to see what partition this ubuntu install is located on?
[01:51] <MonkeyDust> mount
[01:51] <MonkeyDust> or sudo fdisk -l
[01:52] <crimsonmane> that shows all paritions and doesn't distinguish this particular install
[01:52] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, mount tells you
[01:52] <devcalais> How do I log in as root in order to modify /etc/default/xorg.txt? I don't remember ever setting up a root password.. If I could do this through the xWindow system (non terminal) it would be alottt easier.
[01:52] <crimsonmane> can you help with syntax?
[01:52] <devcalais> I'm running 11.04 and Unity.
[01:53] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, first line something like sda6
[01:53] <zewm> devcalais: you don't log in as root you simply type 'sudo' before the command
[01:53] <urlin2u> devcalais, sudo gedit /etc/default/xorg.txt
[01:53] <crimsonmane> ah ok. so it's on sda5. do i have to be careful to not remove the swapdisk this one uses?
[01:54] <zewm> and input your password
[01:54] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, you have changed hyour nic again good luck.
[01:54] <crimsonmane> i didn't change my nic... ?
[01:55] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, the user name purple comes up alot
[01:55] <crimsonmane> ... ? what?
[01:55] <urlin2u> to much for coincidence=real name
[01:56] <crimsonmane> i am crimsonmane, and have never changed it
[01:56] <xangua> urlin2u: purple is what comes by default for real name in pidgin.....
[01:56] <urlin2u> xangua, I didn't know that.
[01:56] <crimsonmane> me neither.
[01:56] <Flark706> sorry i know this is the wrong chat for this but anyone here really good with aircrack-ng?...been trying to get help on it all day in the aircrack-ng channel and noone seems to be there
[01:56] <dforthman> ok, so i have 2 server 11.04 installations running in 2 seperate virtualbox vms. they're both using the same setting for the network in the VM (adapter type, bridged, etc), however my second VM is showing no eth0 when i type ifconfig.
[01:57] <dforthman> when i try to bring it up, it says there's no such device
[01:57] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, sorry about that there is a user on here who uses pidgeon always changing thier nic and is a pain to deal with, never actually using ubuntu.
[01:58] <crimsonmane> ah, troll. i see. i was mass confused a bit ago lol
[01:58] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, so the swap will be obvious in gparted, if deleted it can be remade no biggie.
[01:58] <crimsonmane> ty
[01:59] <urlin2u> they are my white whale muhahahha
[01:59] <crimsonmane> someone mentioned master boot record earlier. i think the MBR is on the windows7 install that i'm about to remove. is that a problem? as a clue to narrow the answer, grub boot menu shows up when the computer starts
[02:00] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, cab you still boot windows?
[02:00] <urlin2u> can'
[02:00] <crimsonmane> i can. but i don't.
[02:00] <crimsonmane> i haven't removed the partitions yet
[02:01] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, grub in windows would be no consequence in this deleting, it does not belong there.
[02:01] <crimsonmane> i just want to be uber sure i'm not going to have to go through ubuntu install again.
[02:01] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, your using gparted right?
[02:01] <jxshxx_> Howdy.  I've had trouble w/ the last 3 Lucid installs getting the error for ttf-mscorefonts after installing restriced extras.  Why is this happing, and what's the best fix?
[02:02] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, can you pastebin any errors
[02:02] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, do you accept the contract?
[02:02] <BentFranklin> what command shows info about your swap partition?  df does not report it.
[02:02] <urlin2u> BentFranklin, sudo blkid
[02:02] <BentFranklin> urlin2u: thanks
[02:03] <urlin2u> BentFranklin, uuid and all. no problem\
[02:03] <jesusamaro> Hola
[02:03] <jesusamaro> Alguien??
[02:03] <crimsonmane> solo engles
[02:03] <jesusamaro> Ok
[02:03] <jesusamaro> I need help
[02:04] <zkriesse> !si
[02:04] <zkriesse> jesusamaro: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[02:04] <urlin2u> crimsonmane, we should probably make sure that your bets has the grub control it probably does but since your in it we can install grub to the mbr to be sure.
[02:04] <urlin2u> beta*
[02:04] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: Can't pastebin at the moment, because I can't install anything until it's fixed.  There is an <OK> at the bottom of the screen that pops up, but nothing I can click on.
[02:04] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, you don't click you scroll down and use the tab
[02:05] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, tab wil highlight the accept
[02:05] <urlin2u> will*
[02:05] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: I'll try it.
[02:06] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, 3 installs  bet you wont forget this one. hehe :D
[02:07] <daddylinux> re unity, all i am seeing is "you can try another distro if you dont like it" well thats not true, ubuntu has more software availiable than any other distro (and nice ppa system) i suggest you respect this and get gnome3 fallback as good as gnome 2 classic or expect loyal ubuntu users to come out of the woodwork with muffled praise for the "innovations team" :-)
[02:07] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: Not after I hang the giant instructional poster on my wall
[02:08] <urlin2u> hehe
[02:08] <bazhang> daddylinux, actual support issue? or just wish to chat
[02:08] <jesusamaro> I wish download ubuntu, but when I going to downloading  there are three options, "Desktop" - "Server" - "Cloud".. should be choose?
[02:08] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: Can't get lock.  How do I kill the processes?
[02:08] <jesusamaro> I wish download ubuntu, but when I going to downloading  there are three options, "Desktop" - "Server" - "Cloud".. should be choose?
[02:08] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, not sure what you mean
[02:08] <daddylinux> actual real human feeling towards ubuntu issue
[02:08] <jesusamaro> Is for a normal machine
[02:09] <uns0b1ll> im on nvidia drivers and my 1920-1680 dissapeared
[02:09] <bazhang> !ot | daddylinux
[02:09] <uns0b1ll> im stuck on 1024X768 can u help ?
[02:09] <xangua> jesusamaro: desktop for a desktop
[02:09] <BentFranklin> urlin2u: Re blkid, I'm trying to find the size of the swap partition.
[02:09] <jesusamaro> xangua.. and the others?
[02:09] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, have you looked in additional drivers for one available?
[02:09] <uns0b1ll> how so ?
[02:10] <urlin2u> BentFranklin, install gparted and look there that is what I do.
[02:10] <urlin2u> BentFranklin, sudo fdisk -l works to
[02:10] <uns0b1ll> theres only one generic-nvidia driver under Hardware Drivers
[02:11] <uns0b1ll> nvidia_current inside additional driver
[02:11] <BentFranklin> urlin2u: Ah yes that should work.  I'm always leery of running partitioners unless I mean it.
[02:11] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, are you using it
[02:11] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: I think I need to kill apt so I can get lock and run the restricted-extras command again ... other ideas?
[02:11] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, correct, and its only 1200x768
[02:11] <urlin2u> BentFranklin, no biggie as long as you don't hit the run. :D
[02:12] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, so what is it doing and where are you running it.
[02:12] <uns0b1ll> its nvidia 210
[02:13] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, nvidia is out of my pay range but you have the right info for help.:D
[02:13] <bazhang> BB0t, hi
[02:13] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: Not sure what it's doing.  I closed the ttf-mscorefonts box earlier, so maybe that?
[02:13] <uns0b1ll> getting this right now
[02:13] <uns0b1ll> http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/256.53/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-256.53.run&lang=us&type=GeForce
[02:13] <uns0b1ll> but its run file
[02:14] <FloodBot1> uns0b1ll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <uns0b1ll> what do i do with .run ?
[02:14] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, you in a terminal that is frozen?
[02:14] <RvPup> ubuntu 10.10 ...i need to find the menu.ls file to edit it to add a puppy linux install ...how do i find it ...i seem to recall it was installed on dev/sda ///without partition numbers ...
[02:14] <rww> aj00200: Unauthorized bots are not permitted in #ubuntu. Please remove yours from the channel.
[02:14] <urlin2u> RvPup, in ubuntu run sudo update-grub
[02:14] <bazhang> RvPup, check the grub2 wiki menu.lst no longer exists
[02:14] <bazhang> !grub2 > RvPup
[02:16] <RvPup> im logged into the puppy system now ...i must be in the ubuntu to find it?
[02:16] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: The terminal works.  I just can't use apt.  "Is another process using it?", it asks ...
[02:16] <aj00200> rww: I'm sorry, I didn't realize that it was set to autojoin #ubuntu. I still have the config from a different network
[02:16] <bazhang> RvPup, yes
[02:16] <rww> aj00200: thanks :)
[02:17] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, you can only have one updater open, so check if the update manager softwrae sources or synaptic is open.
[02:17] <RvPup> ok ...logging out ...thanks
[02:17] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: E: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg
[02:17] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, everything but the terminal closed?
[02:18] <uns0b1ll> do i need to quit X to install nvidia drivers?
[02:18] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: firefox open ... bad?
[02:18] <uns0b1ll> how to close X quickly
[02:19] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, no run these two commands no other installers open.   sudo dpkg --configure -a  sudo apt-get -f install
[02:19] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: on it ...
[02:20] <studentz> uns0b1ll   stopx
[02:20] <uns0b1ll> thanks
[02:20] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, did you install the driver and not logout or reboot?
[02:20] <uns0b1ll> i did not installed anything yet.  i just got it - i need to quit X and install in from console
[02:20] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, from the additional drivers.
[02:20] <uns0b1ll> stopx doesnt work on my
[02:21] <zewm> sudo stopx
[02:21] <uns0b1ll> nothing in additional. i got the driver from website
[02:21] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: first command returned dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[02:21] <studentz> uns0b1ll you need to start from anonther run level
[02:21] <uns0b1ll> well... then i just run shutdown now
[02:21] <uns0b1ll> to go level 3
[02:21] <studentz> uns0b1ll start from grub in recovery and got to console
[02:21] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, did you try the second
[02:21] <uns0b1ll> or whatever level that will be
[02:21] <uns0b1ll> ok be
[02:22] <uns0b1ll> brb
[02:22] <Bar_> Hi
[02:22] <bazhang> hi
[02:22] <Bar_> Can I cap the network bandwidth of a specific command I execute?
[02:23] <VampsBeasty> ok guys. i wanna use wine to run windows games, but i'm hearing that there's no front..is this true?
[02:23] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: second command returns E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:23] <bazhang> VampsBeasty, winetricks?
[02:23] <cobra679> hello
[02:24] <Galaxor2> Hi. I just installed an armel copy of ubuntu using debootstrap. It didn't create a sources.list for me. So I created o
[02:24] <Man_South> hello
[02:24] <cobra679> i am in need of my assistence
[02:24] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: only terminal open, nothing else
[02:24] <bazhang> cobra679, with what
[02:24] <cobra679> may i ask here?
[02:24] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, make sure the ubuntu software center, sysnaptic, and the update manager are not open.
[02:24] <cobra679> an error when i try run a program in that latest ubuntu
[02:24] <VampsBeasty> bazhang, well i was noticing one called PlayonInux would that work too?
[02:24] <cobra679> inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-version.c: 230: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
[02:24] <Man_South> Hey
[02:24] <Man_South> I'm having problem with vi
[02:24] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: system monitor?
[02:25] <cobra679> ive search the internet but cant find much info
[02:25] <Man_South> can anybody help?
[02:25] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, what desktop are you running?
[02:25] <Galaxor2> I created a sources.list but when I apt-get update it 404s on all the repos.
[02:25] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: your mean 10.04 LTS?
[02:25] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, is it unity a panel on the left?
[02:26] <bazhang> Galaxor2, pastebin it please
[02:26] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: no
[02:26] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, you would see any of those open shpwing in the bottom panel
[02:26] <cobra679> any idea bazhang?
[02:26] <studentz> Man_South try emacs :)
[02:26] <Galaxor2> Bazhang one moment plz.
[02:26] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, or in the top panel in the notification area
[02:26] <Man_South> studentz,
[02:27] <qin> Man_South: #vi, #vim; also can you formulate question?
[02:27] <cobra679> nconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-version.c: 230: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
[02:27] <Man_South> yes,
[02:27] <Man_South> i'm not able to "insert"
[02:27] <cobra679> thats the error im getting when trying to run a program
[02:27] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: I don't find anything
[02:27] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, take a screen shot of your desktop and pastebin it the prtsc key will take a screen shot.
[02:28] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, sorry imagebin
[02:28] <qin> Man_South: Esc and i (or some other)
[02:28] <urlin2u> jxshxx_, http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[02:28] <zewm> Is there a way to change the sorting of software center lists?
[02:28] <bazhang> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3427751/cannot-load-android-emulator-on-ubuntu-10-04 cobra679 this?
[02:29] <studentz> Man_South  it is not <esc>    i           the command to insert?
[02:30] <cobra679> bazhang
[02:30] <cobra679> u think it might be currupt
[02:30] <cobra679> ?
[02:30] <bazhang> cobra679, did you read the post? try the error troubleshooting listed
[02:30] <Man_South> actually, earliear I used 10.04, there i could directly start using
[02:30] <Man_South> vi
[02:30] <Man_South> by pressing i
[02:31] <cereal> i'm having a werid issue with 10.04, whenever I attempt to use wget it resolves the domain to my local ipv6 address, however ping and dig work flawlessly (as in give the correct ip address), has anyone heard of this??
[02:31] <Man_South> studentz
[02:31] <Man_South> now, i get like this-
[02:31] <Man_South> VIM - Vi IMproved                                 ~                                                                                ~                               version 7.2.330                                  ~                           by Bram Moolenaar et al.                             ~                 Vim is open source and freely distributable
[02:32] <VampsBeasty> has any one used PlayOnLinux?
[02:32] <studentz> Man_South I launch vi from terminal and  i command works
[02:32] <Man_South> i just want to do the way i used to do in vi from 10.04
[02:33] <Galaxor2> bazhang http://pastebin.ca/2080718
[02:33] <Man_South> no its not working
[02:33] <Man_South> it's just giving some options?
[02:33] <Man_South> can I just make it simple?
[02:33] <Man_South> studentz
[02:33] <Man_South> like pressing vi
[02:33] <jumpkick> anyone here have a MCT Trigger 1+ based USB2VGA adapter working (USB ID 0711:5100 -- i.e. MWS300, Tritton XD300)?
[02:33] <Man_South> and pressing i
[02:34] <Galaxor2> Bazhang that was the apt-get update output.
[02:34] <bazhang> Galaxor2, why the armel repos
[02:35] <Galaxor2> bazhang cuz I'm on an arm device. Nvidia tegra.
[02:36] <bazhang> Galaxor2, perhaps try in #ubuntu-arm I honestly have zero experience with that
[02:36] <studentz> Man_South check the config file .vimrc.    I'm not expert on vi
[02:37] <bazhang> studentz, he's gone
[02:37] <Galaxor2> bazhang Ooh, a whole channel just for arm? Cool I'll check it out thx.
[02:37] <cobra679> bazhang how would i go about replacing that file?
[02:37] <cobra679> just redownload it?
[02:38] <cobra679> in the package manager?
[02:39] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/517934 jumpkick this may be relevant
[02:41] <jumpkick> bazhang: I've been there… I've found a bunch of other stuff
[02:41] <jumpkick> kind of need a wiki page to brain dump onto...
[02:41]  * jumpkick wonders if there's a launchpad wiki page
[02:42] <jxshxx_> urlin2u: Public "thanks" for all your help and success!
[02:42] <urlin2u> jumpkick, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchpad_%28website%29
[02:43] <urlin2u> yipee. jxshxx_ :D
[02:43] <jumpkick> I think the best spot will probably be another thread on ubuntu forums
[02:43] <jumpkick> since that might get the most users
[02:44] <jumpkick> and there a bunch of people on there already with similar gear + problems
[02:44] <cobra679> bazhung im going to download install http://mirror.eftel.com/ubuntu-dvd/8.04/release/ubuntu-8.04.1-dvd-i386.iso
[02:44] <urlin2u> jumpkick, good place for answers learned it all there my self.
[02:44] <cobra679> that will fix the problem yeah?
[02:46] <bazhang> cobra679, reinstall? why not get the most recent? thats the only relevant link I could find to your issue
[02:51] <cobra679> bazhang its strange because im running same version as my friend
[02:51] <cobra679> and hes using the same program and not having a problem
[02:51] <cobra679> strange very strange
[02:53] <VampsDaBeast> is there a way to select which audio output in VLC when 2 sound cards are present?
[02:55] <redboat> oo
[02:55] <dekennedy93> just installed 11.04 and my 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device is not working....what do i install to fix it?
[02:56] <uns0b1ll> how to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu ?
[02:56] <VampsDaBeast> uns0b1ll, nvidia site has linux drivers
[02:56] <uns0b1ll> i went into inet3 and ran driver file but got "unable to build nvidia kernel
[02:57] <uns0b1ll> VampsDaBeast,ye that one was latest 64bit for my GPU
[02:57] <uns0b1ll> how to check if my system 64 or 32
[02:57] <VampsDaBeast> uns0b1ll, let me get the link for 32 or 64 bit
[02:57] <uns0b1ll> uname
[02:57] <uns0b1ll> Linux CCIE 2.6.38-11-server #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 19:20:32 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:58] <uns0b1ll> link ?
[02:58] <uns0b1ll> here
[02:58] <VampsDaBeast> uns0b1ll, ya.. x86_64 is 64 bit
[02:58] <uns0b1ll> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-256.53-driver.html
[02:58] <uns0b1ll> heres driver im using
[02:58] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/541492 dekennedy93 this?
[02:59] <uns0b1ll> whats hardy ?
[02:59] <uns0b1ll> i found instructions for hardy
[02:59] <dr_willis> I always just use the addational-drivers tool to install the proper nvidia drivers.
[03:00] <dr_willis> uns0b1ll:  what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:00] <cereal> http://pastie.org/2516372 <- has anyone seen wget use the machines local ipv6 address before valid dns responses???  I'm having one hell of a time here (apt also does this)
[03:00] <uns0b1ll> theres nothing in additional drivers :(
[03:00] <dr_willis> uns0b1ll:  and whats your exact chipset?
[03:00] <uns0b1ll> look above little
[03:00] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, a earlier 8.04 no end of life release.
[03:00] <uns0b1ll> how do i get that
[03:00] <uns0b1ll> lscpi
[03:00] <uns0b1ll> ?
[03:00] <dr_willis> yes. lspci.
[03:00] <urlin2u> no is a typo uns0b1ll
[03:01] <VampsDaBeast> urlin2u, do you know how i would change my audio output from one sound card to another on VLC?
[03:01] <uns0b1ll> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SMBus Controller
[03:01] <uns0b1ll> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[03:01] <urlin2u> VampsDaBeast, not really.
[03:02] <x3qt0r> hey can anyone tell me what is wrong with mathematica
[03:02] <x3qt0r> why does it have moodswings
[03:02] <x3qt0r> on ubuntu 10.04
[03:02] <x3qt0r> sometimes it starts sometimes it doesnt
[03:02] <uns0b1ll> is my version hardy ?
[03:02] <urlin2u> !details | x3qt0r
[03:03] <dr_willis> !version | uns0b1ll
[03:03] <uns0b1ll> natty
[03:03] <uns0b1ll> okay thnx
[03:04] <x3qt0r> I installed Mathematica 7
[03:04] <x3qt0r>  I have ubuntu 10.04
[03:04] <x3qt0r> It didnt start after I installed it
[03:04] <x3qt0r> in GUI mode.
[03:04] <dr_willis> is mathematica a native linux app? ive never used it.
[03:04] <x3qt0r> So I used it in terminal mode
[03:05] <x3qt0r> where it functioned well.
[03:05] <x3qt0r> And few days back I started it in GUI
[03:05] <x3qt0r> with Mathematica -nosplashscreen
[03:05] <x3qt0r> it started!
[03:05] <x3qt0r> worked well too
[03:05] <x3qt0r> then I closed it
[03:05] <x3qt0r> came back after a while
[03:05] <dr_willis> we can handle more then 4 words per line x3qt0r .....
[03:05] <x3qt0r> and then it wasnt starting again.
[03:05] <x3qt0r> okay sorry.
[03:06] <x3qt0r> Anyhow, the point is it started well in commandline mode, but the plot functions dont work, the output just reads "Graphics".
[03:06] <uns0b1ll> i only see nvidia_current in my additional drivers
[03:07] <uns0b1ll> gota give a try
[03:07] <x3qt0r> When I try to run it in GUI, it doesnt run, but I do see it in the task manager.
[03:07] <karmst> hello
[03:08] <karmst> for Ubuntu 11.04 what is the best virtualization platform?
[03:08] <karmst> I want Ubuntu as the host
[03:08] <wildbat> karmst: VBox / VMware
[03:08] <urlin2u> !best | karmst
[03:09] <Kardos> whats the commandline for apt to search?
[03:09] <uns0b1ll> y u no like high resolution ubunut ?
[03:09] <Kardos> for fedora, its yum search netcdf, but apt-get search netcdf doesnt work
[03:09] <wildbat> Kardos: apt-cache search
[03:09] <karmst> I'm not trying to take a poll
[03:09] <Kardos> thank you :D :D
[03:09] <karmst> I just know that I'm using vmware workstation
[03:09] <dr_willis> x3qt0r:  you mean in the app listing in the panel?
[03:09] <karmst> and there's issues with it
[03:09] <aeon-ltd> uns0b1ll: narwahl bacons?
[03:10] <karmst> so I would like to know what virtualization does not have issues with Ubuntu
[03:10] <karmst> and runs stable
[03:10] <yeats> !kvm | karmst
[03:10] <x3qt0r> yes dr_willis
[03:10] <urlin2u> karmst, every bodies experience and wants are different .
[03:11] <rectec794613> is there any way I can manually turn my hard disk off and on in ubuntu?
[03:11] <rectec794613> not the automatic "spin down hard disks" idle method
[03:13] <karmst> kvm doesn't work with Windows 7 as a guest
[03:13] <MonkeyDust> vbox does
[03:13] <urlin2u> rectec794613, if turned off how you going to turn it aback off the answer is no I believe.
[03:13] <yeats> karmst: nope - it's based on the Linux kernel
[03:14] <yeats> karmst: try vbox
[03:14] <urlin2u> back on*
[03:15] <ramu> installing packages witnout internet connexction
[03:15] <rectec794613> urlin2u: well I'm not sure, I'm not an expert on this type of stuff. But Ubuntu can turn it back on automatically
[03:16] <CaseyPC> Does anyone know how I can install eee-control on 11.04?
[03:16] <urlin2u> rectec794613, you might explan your actual reasoning here.
[03:17] <urlin2u> CaseyPC, https://launchpad.net/~eee-control/+archive/eee-control/+index?field.series_filter=natty  Probably
[03:17] <x3qt0r> Anyone?
[03:17] <x3qt0r> =/
[03:18] <ComputerBoy2> Can anyone tell me why I can see one directory on my freenas that has more than 500 items in it?
[03:20] <ComputerBoy2> Can anyone tell me why I can't see one directory on my freenas that has more than 500 items in it?
[03:21] <MonkeyDust> is freenas an ubuntu fork?
[03:21] <ComputerBoy2> no
[03:21] <wildbat> don't think so ~ it is FreeBSD
[03:21] <cobra679> werd
[03:22] <MonkeyDust> ComputerBoy2: try in ##freebsd
[03:23] <ComputerBoy2> It is a ubuntu problem.  It works fine in mac and windows.
[03:24] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, freenas is not freebsd
[03:24] <MonkeyDust> well, it says "FreeNAS™ is an Open Source Storage Platform based on FreeBSD" on the freenas website
[03:25] <qin> MonkeyDust: Well, there is #freenas here
[03:25] <MonkeyDust> ok
[03:25] <MonkeyDust> but you should address ComputerBoy2 :)
[03:26] <bazhang> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/250465-32-setup-freenas-ubuntu-server  ComputerBoy2 this?
[03:26] <CaseyPC> Ubuntu tells me the eee-control deb is a package of bad quality!?
[03:26] <CoJaBo>  CaseyPC: ?
[03:27] <qin> ComputerBoy2: you can['t] see in ssh and web?
[03:28] <ComputerBoy2> It won't let me open the directory, but it is fine if there is less then 500 items in it.
[03:29] <Marine1> dot 4 reverse message on printer
[03:30] <Marine1> x-sane recognizes the printer/scanner but fails to scan
[03:31] <Marine1> latest hp file d/l and working correctly
[03:34] <ComputerBoy2> I get this message:  sorry could not display all the contents of
[03:36] <Marine1> On my HP Officejet 4500 try to scan object via simple scan or X-sane and  neither seem to complete the operation. It has some sort of delay then  it goes dark gray with the following: Failed to start scanner error  during device I/o. It has no problem finding the device.
[03:38] <Marine1> This is from var/log/syslog: xsane:  io/hpmud/dot4.c 480: unable to read Dot4Reverse Data header: Resource  temporarily unavailable hp:/usb/Officejet_4500_G510n-z?serial=CN048H505M05HR
[03:38] <Marine1> xsane: sane_hpaio_cancel: already cancelled!
[03:41] <urlin2u> Marine1, have yo looked on the web with the model?
[03:41] <urlin2u> you
[03:42] <Marine1> urlin2u: yes I have and the update top the latest hplip library has been completed
[03:43] <urlin2u> Marine1, I tried looking with the errors, nothing what is the model?
[03:43] <Marine1> urlin2u: i even posted it to launchpad and there you only get incomplete answers
[03:44] <Marine1> urlin2u: On my HP Officejet 4500 try to scan object via simple scan or X-sane and  neither seem to complete the operation. It has some sort of delay then  it goes dark gray with the following: Failed to start scanner error  during device I/o. It has no problem finding the device.
[03:45] <Atuk> 123
[03:45] <Marine1> urlin2u: hp4500 officejet
[03:47] <redboat> Can someone help with this problem the error occurs when i issue the make command I am trying to install the drivers for the FTDI FT232RL chip...  fatal error: /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic-pae/build/include/linux/modversions.h
[03:47] <Atuk> so what ub
[03:47] <fermulator> urlin2u: hey; got compiz w/ unity; do you ever have the problem where the unity menu has some "rectangular artifact" behind it when it "avoids windows" (window dodge)?
[03:47] <fermulator> I completed this setup on my media center (Radeon card) and my notebook (Intel card), same symptom
[03:48] <urlin2u> Marine1, I wonder if the drivers for it are not actually available in ubuntu did you try looking in printer.   http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/downloads.html
[03:48] <x3qt0r> is there a freenode mathematica support
[03:48] <urlin2u> fermulator, you have a screen shot.
[03:49] <redboat> Can someone help with this problem the error occurs when i issue the make command I am trying to install the drivers for the FTDI FT232RL chip...  fatal error: /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic-pae/build/include/linux/modversions.h
[03:49] <Marine1> urlin2u: that is the exact place where I d/l the latest hplip for it. Everything went well all dependencies are installed.
[03:50] <urlin2u> fermulator, I have a custom compiz setup I save and use every time so I don't recognize what you describe.
[03:50] <x3qt0r> I can see mathematica running in the "processes" tab in system monitor
[03:51] <seatia> can anyone tell me how i can get some "widgets" for ubuntu   kinda like rainmeter?
[03:51] <seatia> running 11.04 classic
[03:51] <fermulator> urlin2u: http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3148/unitycompizbarartifact.png
[03:51] <urlin2u> Marine1, does that link have any clues, personally I don't know but was just looking around to see if there is an answer
[03:51] <fermulator> urlin2u: basically, when the unity bar is showing, it looks fine, but when it "hides" i'm left with that black rectangular "shadow" of where it previously was, which is always on top of the actual window (whether it's maximized or not)
[03:51] <urlin2u> fermulator, says trash hmm.
[03:52] <DrNoNeck> DrNoNeck
[03:52] <Marine1> urlin2u: I have looked extensively and to no-avail
[03:53] <urlin2u> fermulator, you mean the black bar on the left edge of the screen?
[03:53] <fermulator> urlin2u: yes
[03:53] <fermulator> urlin2u: it hides anything that tries to go there. (i.e. is /in front/ of all windows)
[03:54] <seatia> how can i get apps on my desktop like this http://tinyurl.com/3co5abc                thats blackbuntu   but im running 11.04 classic
[03:54] <Atuk> 11.04 is shitty
[03:54] <urlin2u> fermulator, I know you can make the launcher translucent forget where though that is strange, never there before?
[03:55] <fermulator> urlin2u: interesting, logged out and back in, it's gone.  I think something must trigger it to "break", i'll try to find out what (mostly likely compiz fiddling)
[03:55] <urlin2u> fermulator, did you install the displex app?
[03:55] <paranoid_ndroid> hello, is there any tool to analyse the harddrive's bandwidth usage in real time?
[03:56] <x3qt0r> IT STARTED!
[03:56] <x3qt0r> yay!?
[03:56] <fermulator> displex? (ubuntu package, or ?) -- not to my knowledge
[03:56] <x3qt0r> =/
[03:56] <excelsior1979> yay
[03:56] <FloodBot1> x3qt0r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:56] <xangua> fermulator: tried to reset unity¿ unity --reset
[03:57] <excelsior1979> So why does Wubi download the lucid-desktop-i386.iso? It's taking a whole hour, and I thought I had everything for my install on my cd/dvd/whateveritis...\
[03:57] <Atuk> cant find the edit button on the software centre
[03:58] <urlin2u> fermulator, install this if not already and it works like the fusion icon, has a restart fro compiz, opens it and nice other controls including a kill app  http://sourceforge.net/projects/displex/files/displex-0.7.1/     you can put it in the autostart applications with the command indicator-displex  and it woill be in the top panel.
[03:58] <Schala> I'm trying to compile some software that has a "gdkmm" prereq, and neither synaptic nor Google is pointing me to it. Does anyone know where I can get it?
[03:58] <qin> seatia: Thats conky and terminal and some gtk theme.
[03:59] <seatia> qin yea i just started reading on conky.  prettysure thats what i had on 10.4  thanks
[03:59] <urlin2u> fermulator, I have my compiz set up crash so there is no widow header at time the restart in displex fixes that, and would have fixed that bar without the logout.
[04:00] <excelsior1979> happy 9/11
[04:00] <excelsior1979> So why does Wubi download the lucid-desktop-i386.iso? It's taking a whole hour, and I thought I had everything for my install on my cd/dvd/whateveritis...\
[04:01] <kevops> hello, quick question, hoping some one can help, how do i tell the debian/ubuntu installer via preseed to us an alternate archive to down load packages etc....
[04:01] <kevops> rather experienced but this is eluding me
[04:01] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, you just need any live cd burned to a disc.
[04:02] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, it will download the latest release what is the cd?
[04:02] <benonsoftware> Hi all
[04:02] <kevops> http://pastebin.com/41d4z9Nd current
[04:03] <BladeMcCool> trying to install some asterisk packages but its not finding them .. what repo do i need?
[04:03] <battlehands> I need to install ventrilo to my linux os
[04:03] <dr_willis> ventrilo is a windows app isent it?
[04:04] <benonsoftware> Just wondering are there any OpenOffice/LibreOffice temolates with the 'Ubuntu' look?
[04:04] <benonsoftware> templates*
[04:05] <jumpnmove> so question. fresh install of 10.04. i'm connected to my router via ether and reserved an ip for my computer. however with automatic configure ubuntu ignores the reservation and sets it own ip
[04:05] <excelsior1979> urlin2u: The cd is 10.04 i386...
[04:06] <excelsior1979> it's an older disk, so maybe that's the problem?
[04:06] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, it will download the latest release I believe if you look on the ubuntu forums I believe there is a way to block that.
[04:06] <excelsior1979> 45 minutes to go... sigh
[04:07] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, your better with natty anyway there are problems in earlier wubi's
[04:07] <hooch> i'm installing UEC (11) and i've come to the disk partition setup - can i do raid or otherwise assign all four discs to the UEC setup at this point?
[04:07] <excelsior1979> so do the latest one? sigh...
[04:07] <hooch> seems i can only choose a single disc and install on one disc?
[04:07] <excelsior1979> I thought LTS was there for a reason.
[04:08] <excelsior1979> I wanted to experiment with the upgrade feature to see what happened, actually...
[04:08] <xangua> excelsior1979: better make a real install ;)
[04:08] <excelsior1979> I thought LTS was real
[04:08] <excelsior1979> :P
[04:09] <SuPrbly> Hello all
[04:09] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, wubi is not designed for more then a try out, read what the developer says, and don't sigh in your lack of knowledge, you look like a ultra noob.  :D  http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[04:09] <excelsior1979> calling me a noob is against da rules. :)
[04:10] <Marine1> This is from var/log/syslog: xsane:  io/hpmud/dot4.c 480: unable to read Dot4Reverse Data header: Resource  temporarily unavailable hp:/usb/Officejet_4500_G510n-z?serial=CN048H505M05HR
[04:10] <excelsior1979> :P I'm supervising a party for a 50 year old lady. I'm the only white guy in the building, but there are several caucasians if you count the real indians...
[04:10] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, well I said makes you look like one I have helped you for free deal with it.
[04:11] <excelsior1979> I'm cool, but I got botted for that before.
[04:11] <Marine1> need help on this: On my HP Officejet 4500 try to scan object via simple scan or X-sane and  neither seem to complete the operation. It has some sort of delay then  it goes dark gray with the following: Failed to start scanner error  during device I/o. It has no problem finding the device.
[04:11] <excelsior1979> that's where someone tells the bot to yell at you.
[04:11] <excelsior1979> It's a yell at by proxy.
[04:11] <excelsior1979> :)
[04:15] <excelsior1979> so here's a question, should I burn the latest iso on a new disk, or burn it over the old one?
[04:15] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, if ot is downloading I believe it installs.
[04:16] <urlin2u> it*
[04:16] <dforthman> when I type 'apache2 -S' I get this - apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER} - how do i fix that?
[04:16] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, it started the download after you set up the install is this correct?
[04:17] <excelsior1979> I have a feeling it's all for naught, as this is the second time I'm doing it, and the first time I did it, the computer automatically booted windows, with no option for Ubuntu.
[04:17] <excelsior1979> I'm using the admin account on XP. Is that a possible problem?
[04:18] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, read the link on the intentions of wubi it may change your mine as far as using, a dual boot if you can is mor stable.
[04:18] <urlin2u> more*
[04:19] <excelsior1979> ok, well here's why I'm using wubi: the USB dvd drive isn't recognized on boot.
[04:19] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, you always install from admin with  wubi.
[04:20] <excelsior1979> and XP is cool, right?
[04:21] <excelsior1979> I'd prefer to partition and install a dual boot that way, but I can't get the USB drive recognized on boot, and I've looked at all the bios settings several times.
[04:21] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, XP should be, the computer will boot a thumb though correct, there are key presses to get a post bios boot from menu.
[04:21] <xsacha> hi
[04:21] <excelsior1979> It's not a thumb, it's a DVD
[04:21] <excelsior1979> USB DVD
[04:21] <excelsior1979> or do you mean I should try a thumb drive instead?
[04:21] <xsacha> i was wondering how best to setup my ATI switchable graphics on ubuntu. Is there a method available that allows me to switch to Intel on battery and back to ATI when i'm not?
[04:22] <excelsior1979> i considered it, and I'm considering it again.
[04:22] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, same thing is the computer able to even use a dvd drive and do you know the post bios menu?
[04:22] <excelsior1979> yes, boot order is ok, BIOS is set to boot from USB,
[04:22] <mcuser> when my computer wakes from sleep I have to switch to tty7 to get back xorg
[04:22] <mcuser> does anyone know what to do?
[04:23] <D-coy> m4v, sopla nucas xD!
[04:23] <excelsior1979> I'm not sure what else I've looked at or changed, I don't have it in front of me right now.
[04:23] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, some times that is not enough all computers have anothe boot from menu outside the bios that is reached with a key prompt, mine is f12 yours may be that or another key set.
[04:24] <excelsior1979> yes f12, tried that
[04:24] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, what is the computer model?
[04:24] <excelsior1979> dell tower,
[04:24] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, what happened when you tried f12?
[04:25] <excelsior1979> optiplex gx280
[04:25] <excelsior1979> several options, I selected USB and DVD alternately
[04:26] <fermulator> urlin2u: wow; displex is awesome :-)
[04:27] <wildbat> excelsior1979: don't you have a USB Flash drive?
[04:28] <urlin2u> fermulator, thought you would like it. :D
[04:30] <Besogon> hi guys.  the volume icon disappeared from systray. How to tune the system tray? I had to add the volume applet near the systray but it's not the same :(
[04:30] <excelsior1979> wildbat: yes I have one, but it's my backup drive, so I don't want to really wipe it for an install disk. 8 GB. Can I use it to backup stuff while booting and installing from it too?
[04:30] <Besogon> ps: I use xfce
[04:30] <fermulator> urlin2u: since you're an expert here ... :-) ... after configuring compiz and everything, the "Workspace Switcher" no longer works, nor can we remove it from the bar.  I did some research last month and couldn't find a way at the time to remove.  Do you have a secret way to fix/remove it?\
[04:30] <excelsior1979> better yet, could I install multiple distributions from it?
[04:33] <excelsior1979> hello?
[04:33] <urlin2u> fermulator, expert lol, I think it stays not sure seems like mine disappeared, I use docky at the bottom as well, and its switcher if needed I have my mouse set to roll the window withe the scroll button.
[04:33] <wildbat> excelsior1979: hmmm ~ you can but thou during the process of making the USB you should put your backup else where
[04:34] <urlin2u> fermulator, I'm on Oneriric gnome 3 right now I will boot to natty to look hold on.
[04:34] <fermulator> interesting; yeah well I can still of course use Expo (Super+E), or the cube, or the cube shortcuts (CTRL+ALT+left/right)
[04:34] <Guest9147> hi
[04:34] <excelsior1979> any good tutorials on setting up a multiple install USB?
[04:34] <joseph_> Hello how do i Update from 10.04 to 11.10 Beta using apt-get?
[04:34] <wildbat> excelsior1979: check that  :  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[04:35] <Guest9147> how can i change the grub default partition
[04:35] <Guest9147> because now the default one is memory test
[04:35] <Guest9147> and i use partedmagic for just asking
[04:35] <qin> joseph_: Maybe: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[04:35] <Guest9147> pleaze can you answer to me ?
[04:36] <excelsior1979> wildbat: I don't want to use Windows to make this, any suggestions?
[04:36] <joseph_> qin: thanks
[04:36] <fermulator> excelsior1979: unetbootin <-- a program to load up ISOs, bootable, on USB keys
[04:37] <excelsior1979> can it do multiple installs from one USB?
[04:37] <excelsior1979> stick
[04:38] <Guest9147> how can i change the grub default partition
[04:38] <qin> excelsior1979: yes
[04:38] <excelsior1979> tutorial link please?
[04:38] <fermulator> excelsior1979: it only supports one from the GUI, i've wanted to do it for a while myself, yes qin -- would be awesome if you have info on that
[04:38] <excelsior1979> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[04:39] <qin> excelsior1979: Insert stick to pc A, install system, remove stick, repeat steps for pc B C D etc
[04:40] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc is one way i belive.
[04:40] <excelsior1979> It would be sweet if I could install every flavor of Ubuntu from a single USB, plus other select Linuxes...
[04:40] <Guest9147> but i cant use ubuntu
[04:41] <fermulator> qin/excelsior1979: clarification, are we trying to install multiple OSs onto a USB key, or have available multiple ISOs for booting to install OSs?
[04:41] <dr_willis> excelsior1979:  thats doable.. with a large pendrive and grub2 setup to boot the iso files
[04:41] <wildbat> excelsior1979: unless you have other source of booting you pc to linux ~ as far as i know you can boot USB DVD.  what's wrong with that win tools.?
[04:41] <Guest9147> because it begin with the memory test
[04:41] <excelsior1979> But what about the 32 bit v 64 bit?
[04:41] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  you mean the default grub selection.. not partition...
[04:41] <Guest9147> so i must change the memory test to other thing
[04:41] <Guest9147> yes
[04:41] <Guest9147> that what i mean
[04:41] <excelsior1979> I don't trust Windows with my USB.
[04:41] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  your arrow keys dont work to select an item?
[04:41] <Guest9147> i am sorry about my english
[04:41] <Guest9147> no
[04:42] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  is it a usb keyboard?
[04:42] <Guest9147> no
[04:42] <dr_willis> you CAN give a litle more details ya know. :)
[04:42] <dr_willis> laptop? desktop? no keytboard?  ect...
[04:42] <Guest9147> laptop
[04:43] <Guest9147> lenovo G550
[04:43] <fermulator> excelsior1979: yes, that's what i'd like to do as well, have a "library" of installers on a single USB key (and you can pick which one to install .. Ubuntu desktop, Ubuntu alternate, Ubuntu server, 32-bit/64-bit, LTS, latest, etc.
[04:43] <fermulator> theoretically once unetbootin does one, we should be able to easily augment the files to just add more ISOs to the file system, but I haven't had time to fiddle with it yet
[04:43] <dr_willis> i would plug in a USB keyboard and see if it works.. or go to the bios settings and see if theres a legacy usb setting to enable Guest9147  - the keyboard should work. Im not sure how memtest would be the default item either..
[04:43] <wildbat> excelsior1979: like i said unless you have other PC that can boot to linux , or other way to boot your PC to linux. you are sticking with Windows .
[04:44] <Guest9147> me too
[04:44] <dr_willis> fermulator:  i found it easier to just use grub2 to boot the isos :) but each iso/disrto may need differnt options.
[04:44] <Guest9147> when i use super grub disk
[04:44] <Guest9147> it give me other selections
[04:44] <excelsior1979> I'm in Ubuntu right now
[04:45] <Guest9147> i use just up and down arrow ?
[04:45] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  so the keyboard works on the SUperGrubBOot CD? but not on the  installed ubuntu system?
[04:45] <excelsior1979> ;) I'm trying to get a work computer to use Ubuntu. Everything here is sucky hardware. Which is why this tower requires an external dvd drive
[04:45] <Guest9147> yes
[04:45] <Guest9147> not the installed
[04:45] <Guest9147> i cant change
[04:45] <dr_willis> does it work on a Ubuntu live cd Guest9147 ?
[04:45] <Guest9147> but i can use it in memory test
[04:46] <wildbat> excelsior1979: okay, back the USB up, install grub in it and follow the links others have give you.
[04:46] <Guest9147> because it work normaly with me for change the memory test before but now i cant see the list of selections
[04:46] <excelsior1979> ooh, gotta go sing happy birthday!
[04:47] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  you could boot a live cd, and either chroot in and alter the grub defaults. or (not so great an idea) use a live cd. and edit the boot/grub.cfg file to select a differnt default.
[04:47] <Guest9147> ok
[04:47] <fermulator> I've forgotten how to do this; in Ubuntu, 11.04, how to disable the Restart/Shutdown/Login confirmation prompt?
[04:48] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  You cant SEE the menu?  or what exactly do you see?
[04:48] <Guest9147> it go directly to the memtest
[04:48] <fermulator> oh here it is apps > indicator-session >
[04:48] <fermulator> > suppress_logout_restart_shutdown
[04:49] <urlin2u> fermulator, try this and then restart the using displex. http://askubuntu.com/questions/41730/is-there-a-way-to-disable-the-workspace-switcher-in-unity-launcher
[04:49] <excelsior1979> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[04:49] <excelsior1979> fermulator: you get that?
[04:50] <fermulator> urlin2u: yes, if you reduce the number of workspaces to 1, the workspace switcher will go away;  however I want some workspaces :-)
[04:50] <Guest9147>  it go directly to the memtest dr_willis
[04:50] <fermulator> exelsior1979: hmmm ... a windows app?
[04:51] <excelsior1979> boo it requires windows
[04:51] <wildbat> excelsior1979: fermulator: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[04:52] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  if you edit the grub.cfg file you can make it not go there.
[04:52] <qin> excelsior1979: It say run file.sh, unlikey to do it in windows: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/39747/how-to-boot-10-different-live-cds-from-1-usb-flash-drive/
[04:52] <fermulator> wildbat: oh yeah, nice -- i think that will do it; must be relatively new?
[04:52] <Guest9147> i am seeing that
[04:52] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  or chroot in, and altr the grub config files in etc/ to change thedefault.
[04:53] <excelsior1979> subtle difference, wildbat, we're want to multi-install, not multiboot.
[04:53] <Guest9147> i am using parted magiq parition
[04:53] <dr_willis> Guest9147: but you are saying you dont even see the other options or the grub menu at all?
[04:53] <Guest9147> so i can change the file
[04:53] <Guest9147> yes i dont see it dr_willis
[04:55] <Guest9147> what do you say if i delete the part of memtest from the file  grub.cfg file
[04:55] <urlin2u> fermulator, I have 4 in the horizontal, and 1 on the other two, I also found a link that goes like this in the terminal run gnome-panel this brings up the classic panel, add the workplace switcher, right click preferences, and change to one. That  with a restart removed the dektop changer in the unity panel, is that what you wanted?
[04:55] <wildbat> excelsior1979: do whatever installation you like ~ but be care with partitioning and grub/bootloader.
[04:55] <urlin2u> fermulator, when you close the terminal the gnome-panel disappears.
[04:56] <qin> Guest9147: Maybe try liveCD, to see if your box is ok.
[04:56] <Guest9147> how i can see that dr_willis
[04:57] <urlin2u> fermulator, I assume you have the cube and spin it.
[04:57] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  be a bit more verbose in your questions.. see what?
[04:57] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  you will want to set the default item to be the one you want to boot.
[04:57] <Guest9147> see my box is ok or no ?
[04:58] <Guest9147> how can i set the default item to be the one that i want ?
[04:58] <dr_willis> see the grub.cfg file. its in there near the top
[04:59] <dr_willis> grub menu items strt counting from ZERO also.. so the first item would be a '0'
[04:59] <Guest9147> i see  4 ?
[04:59] <Guest9147> set default="4"
[04:59] <fermulator> urlin2u: so i enabled gnome-panel, reduced the num workspaces to 3, logged out, the switcher was gone, but the cube no longer worked (because workspaces=1), then i went into compiz, general settings, and increased again to 4 horizontal, yay, cube worked.  after a logout+login though, the workspace switcher returns on the unity panel
[05:00] <Guest9147> this is what i see in the grub.cfg file ?
[05:00] <fermulator> urlin2u: /however/  now the switcher actually works ... interesting ...
[05:00] <urlin2u> fermulator, changr the gnome panel app to 1
[05:00] <namoamitabuddha> Is there any lightweight display manager?
[05:00] <urlin2u> change*
[05:00] <Guest9147> i send to you the grub.cfg file dr_willis
[05:00] <fermulator> urlin2u: changing the gnome-panel switcher app to 1 affects the compiz general settings (they're tied together) -- changing one changes the other
[05:01] <namoamitabuddha> Hi, guys, is there any display manager which supports for switching user?
[05:01] <dr_willis> Guest9147:  theres a set default= line you will want to change the 3
[05:01] <dr_willis> Number..
[05:02] <Guest9147> i send to you the file
[05:02] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[05:02] <Guest9147> and tell me what i must change
[05:02] <dr_willis> 'set default=#  you will want to change the # to be the menu entry you want as default.
[05:02] <urlin2u> fermulator, your I checked the panel app back to 4 and restarted with diplex and the icon is back I guess I'm just used to ignoring ut.
[05:03] <Guest9147> ahhh ok
[05:03] <Guest9147> thx i will try that
[05:03] <urlin2u> your right*
[05:03] <Guest9147> than i return
[05:03] <Guest9147> thanks dr_willis
[05:03] <namoamitabuddha> Hi, guys
[05:03] <namoamitabuddha> Is there anyone using slim?
[05:03] <fermulator> urlin2u: haha yep; I think it's stuck there at least for now.  I'm OK with ignoring it, it's only a /wee/ bit of real-estate wasted :-)
[05:04] <urlin2u> fermulator, yeah I set the scroll wheel on the mouse in ubuntu twek to spin the cube so I can do it without a key press, as well.
[05:05] <fermulator> urlin2u: bwah? just scrolling the mouse spins the cube?
[05:05] <dr_willis> that could get annoying. :)
[05:05] <nac-godfather> change it
[05:05] <nac-godfather> You probably mistakenly edited the initiate button.
[05:06] <Desyncify> ok, got another problem
[05:06] <Desyncify> Trying to install java on ubuntu 11.04
[05:07] <Desyncify> when I type ln -s <Java installation directory>/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so my libnpjp2.so file seems to be broken every time
[05:07] <Desyncify> and I can't get java to work
[05:07] <nac-godfather> I'd like to know how to setup java too.  I put the plugins in firefox, but how would you install the source packages for system java?
[05:08] <x3qt0r> In[1]:= Plot[Sin[x], {x, 0, 2Pi}]
[05:08] <x3qt0r> Out[1]= -Graphics-
[05:08] <x3qt0r> this what i get in mathematica 7
[05:08] <x3qt0r> in command line mode with ubuntu 10.04
[05:08] <x3qt0r> I do not see the plot.
[05:09] <fermulator> urlin2u: came across this list of indicators btw: http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/05/10-useful-application-indicators-for.html
[05:11] <urlin2u> fermulator, yeah I have several apps basic same instructions, I can't find the mouse spin, I think I did it in ubuntu tweak. but I have a compiz scfript I saved when I got it working I use.
[05:11] <nac-godfather> Anyone know where I could get some more gnome emblems?
[05:13] <bullgard4> nac-godfather: More than what?
[05:13] <Desyncify> whats easiest way to delete java after I installed the .bin file?
[05:13] <rube>  I'm trying to install ubuntu but the cd just seems to sit forever when it gets to the ubuntu...... screen.  Any ideas?
[05:13] <Desyncify> I did ./jre-6u<version>-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[05:13] <Schala> I'm having a bit of difficulty finding a certain package by the name of "gdkmm" that I apparently need
[05:14] <nac-godfather> Know I'd like to know if there are any resources for getting some more (additional) emblems for gnome.  Maybe someone has some shared custom ones?
[05:15] <nac-godfather> yeah, try using the vesa install.  Because you probably have some low ram or graphics trying to kick in, that your computer can't handle (rube)
[05:15] <dr_willis> nac-godfather:  i just collect them from various icon web sites or icon themes. or just make some :)  i dont use them much any more.
[05:15] <nac-godfather> just press the tab key at startup or try the text install
[05:15] <nac-godfather> then you can edit the boot line if necessary
[05:16] <dr_willis> gnome-look web site might have some emblem collections.
[05:16] <ericbatista> hello
[05:16] <nac-godfather> did you just use icon files?
[05:17] <urlin2u> fermulator, found it if you have ubuntu tweak installed. http://imagebin.org/171987
[05:17] <nac-godfather> I'm sure you could use almost any image, but was just curious.
[05:17] <ericbatista> i need help to fix problem with my wifi
[05:17] <nac-godfather> what chipset ericbatista?
[05:17] <ericbatista> i dont know
[05:17] <rube> ok, I'll check that out. thanks
[05:17] <ericbatista> im thinking intel
[05:18] <nac-godfather> what is the output of lspci | grep 802.11
[05:18] <nac-godfather> is it a pci card or usb/
[05:18] <dr_willis> nac-godfather:  i used any png files i happened to find.
[05:18] <rube> shouldn't be low ram. I have 8gigs but it won't hurt to try
[05:18] <nac-godfather> cool, thanks
[05:18] <ericbatista> its laptop
[05:18] <ericbatista> inside
[05:18] <dr_willis> nac-godfather:  anime screen shots + cropping = lots of them :)
[05:18] <nac-godfather> what graphics u using ericbatista?
[05:18] <nac-godfather> cool
[05:21] <ericbatista> sorry
[05:21] <ericbatista> close the terminal
[05:21] <ericbatista> for know the chipset
[05:22] <fermulator> urlin2u: hahaha, opening ubuntu tweak and flipping to "compiz settings" caused that black rectangle again behind the unity bar.
[05:22] <urlin2u> fermulator, do a restart
[05:22] <urlin2u> displex
[05:22] <fermulator> unity restart?
[05:22] <fermulator> oh right
[05:23] <nac-godfather> anyone know how to set a folder background?
[05:23] <nac-godfather> nautilus
[05:23] <urlin2u> fermulator, no the displex restart window manager
[05:23] <fermulator> urlin2u: yep; that fixed it
[05:23] <ericbatista> hi i need help to fix a wifi problems with the driver
[05:23] <ericbatista> ?
[05:23] <fermulator> looks like there's a weird bug in the "refresh" sometimes when fiddling with compiz adjustments
[05:23] <fermulator> restarting windows manager fixes 'er
[05:24] <ericbatista> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[05:24] <urlin2u> fermulator, If I press the scroll it shrinks the cube and I can spin with mouse move aa well, or just roll it to spin it.
[05:24] <fermulator> test
[05:24] <excelsior1979> so does anyone have any idea what keeps wubi from installing correctly?
[05:24] <fermulator> hmmmm , LoL, my Enter key has stopped working in the terminal ...
[05:25] <fermulator> whop, there it goes
[05:25] <fermulator> weird
[05:26] <urlin2u> yeah the refresh is funky compiz is part of the unity desktop, and we are tweaking it the restart window manager fixes that refresh.
[05:26] <excelsior1979> ubuntu
[05:26] <ericbatista> hi somebody can help me please
[05:27] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, I haven't followed all your posts, do you just have a natty cd burned to try with?
[05:27] <urlin2u> now
[05:27] <excelsior1979> not yet... sigh
[05:27] <excelsior1979> boo
[05:27] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, that is the fix I think.
[05:28] <excelsior1979> disk inserted...
[05:29] <bryan> hello everyboody
[05:29] <urlin2u> !broadcom | ericbatista
[05:30] <Guest18239> i have installed the shrew soft vpn on my ubuntu ..  but i still dont know how to configure after reading the manual  does s
[05:30] <excelsior1979> what speed do I burn it at? DVD...
[05:30] <Guest18239> can someone have idea on this
[05:31] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, lowest possible usually 4x but do what you have to do.
[05:31] <excelsior1979> urlin2u: what speed, slowest = 2.4, next is 4x, next 8x, then max = ?
[05:31] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, I would use 4x
[05:33] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, I never sigh I just mutter expletives.:D
[05:34] <cristopher> hi
[05:34] <Guest18239> no response
[05:36] <excelsior1979> I have the temperament of Charlie Brown.
[05:36] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, hey its cool your sticking with it.
[05:37] <moose-machine> hi. has anyone tried the beta version of 11.10, by any chance?
[05:37] <urlin2u> moose-machine, yes many on #ubuntu+1
[05:38] <ericbatista> thanx ubottu
[05:38] <urlin2u> ericbatista, you working now?
[05:39] <ericbatista> yes
[05:39] <ericbatista> i thinking i need restart to
[05:39] <urlin2u> ericbatista, cool ubottu is a bot.
[05:39] <ericbatista> a ok sorry
[05:39] <ericbatista> lol
[05:39] <urlin2u> ericbatista, it seems lifelike until you know. :D
[05:40] <moose-machine>  urlin2u ok. and what do you think about it?
[05:40] <ericbatista> hehhehehe
[05:40] <urlin2u> moose-machine, if you switch to #ubuntu+1 I can answer that id the 11.10 channel
[05:40] <ericbatista> know i need to do a ad-hoc in ubuntu 11.04
[05:40] <urlin2u> is*
[05:40] <excelsior1979> here's another question: why isn't there a DVD iso that can install every flavor of Ubuntu?
[05:41] <moose-machine>  urlin2u oh ok. i see.
[05:41] <ericbatista> if i can do in a grafic ??
[05:41] <dr_willis> excelsior1979:  because the demand for such a thing would be rather low. and i do belive ive seen onofficial dvd's that do such that.
[05:41] <urlin2u> ericbatista, ?
[05:42] <Jordan_U> excelsior1979: That's pretty much what you can do with the DVD iso. It has the alternate installer as an option, and all of main on the DVD. So you can install any flavor you want.
[05:42] <fermulator> bah;  the unity-launcher-editor doesn't actually work
[05:42] <dr_willis> i made a multi-disrto flash drive rather easially. :) using tools from the pendrivelinux siet.
[05:42] <ericbatista> using my computer to conect to internet in lan to shared via wifi on ad-hoc connection?
[05:43] <ericbatista> can do?
[05:43] <dr_willis> not sure about moving it to a DVD. since i had like 12+ isos on it.
[05:43] <dr_willis> !ics
[05:43] <dr_willis> ericbatista:  i recall not all wireless cards can do an ad-hoc network. but ive rarely ever tried ad-hocing  ecvept with my cellphone
[05:45] <mikeliss> is there a clever way to run a command after another *that you've already started* finishes?
[05:45] <mikeliss> e.g., I start a really long process, and then realize I wish I had an alert script that would run when it finished?
[05:45] <fermulator> mikeliss: if it's in a terminal, just type the command in the same terminal (it will look weird), and press enter; when the previous process returns, the STDIN you just gave it will auto-go
[05:46] <dorkmafia> should i install 64 bit or 32 bit? I have 12Gb of memory currently on my cpu but I've never installed linux b4
[05:47] <paulbrianstewart> I personally would use the 32 bit
[05:47] <Jordan_U> dorkmafia: 64 Bit.
[05:47] <dorkmafia> ;)
[05:47] <paulbrianstewart> jordan_u: why?
[05:48] <paulbrianstewart> jordan_u: is it faster?
[05:48] <dr_willis> if you want full use of the ram. go 64bit.
[05:48] <dr_willis> pae kernel can work. but can be slower. and i dont see a lot of reasons to go 32bit these days.
[05:48] <Jordan_U> paulbrianstewart: Because with 12 GiB of RAM you actually have a possibility of wanting a single application to be able to use more than 4 GiB.
[05:49] <ericbatista> dr_willis:  right now my card is functional and connect ad-hoc right now.. but i can't shared de internet
[05:49] <dorkmafia> is most of the software available in 64?
[05:49] <fermulator> FYI:  Creating an empty ".local" directory in your $HOME directory causes Unity launchers to break
[05:49] <paulbrianstewart> jordan_u: ..ok, thanks..I didn't know that.
[05:49] <dr_willis> ericbatista:  see that ics guide/wiki? i recall it being a few clicks and its done sort of thing.. not dont it in ages...
[05:49] <nac-godfather> Anyone know how I can change xscreensaver to run as root?  Or vlc withoult recompiling?
[05:50] <dr_willis> nac-godfather:  why would you want to do  that?
[05:50] <nac-godfather> omg, he want's to run as root!  Let me decide what I do.
[05:50] <nac-godfather> because I am root
[05:50] <nac-godfather> I know what I'm doing
[05:51] <mikeliss> fermulator: Friggin' clever. Never tried that before.
[05:51] <mikeliss> Thanks.
[05:51] <dr_willis> whatever then.. have fun.
[05:52] <Jordan_U> paulbrianstewart: It can be faster. 99.9% of software is 64 bit compatible, with the main notable exception being flash. That said, if I didn't tell you, you probably would never notice that flash isn't 64 bit as Ubuntu handles installing a 32 bit wrapper automatically when you install flash. There is also a beta native 64 bit flash player.
[05:52] <aaron11> Hey there. Im experiencing problems on booting into my newly installed 11.04. On LiveCD 1st boot it became a black screen but you can faintly see whats going on and you can hear the drum sounds. On LiveCD 2nd boot, everything worked fine so I installed it. On HDD boot I have to restart it many times to get it to work right. Now im in nomodeset mode and I want to get it back to normal, care to help? Im very new to Linux so a very deta
[05:52] <urlin2u> dr_willis, there are always the root runners, lol
[05:53] <Jordan_U> nac-godfather: We don't support logging in as root.
[05:53] <paulbrianstewart> jordan_u:..thanks for the explanation
[05:53] <Jordan_U> paulbrianstewart: You're welcome.
[05:53] <urlin2u> aaron11, look in additional drivers.
[05:53] <fermulator> mikeliss: you're welcome! and if you copy/paste a command with "newline" or "whitespace" after it, it is like "auto-enter"
[05:53] <urlin2u> aaron11, also post the gpu.
[05:53] <aaron11> urlin2u: Ok
[05:54] <aaron11> urlin2u: But there is nothing to do there
[05:54] <nac-godfather> good for u, you want a medal for trying to turn linux into a ms thing?
[05:54] <urlin2u> aaron11, this will identify the card.  lspci | grep VGA
[05:54] <aaron11> urlin2u: It just searches for drivers then says no proprietary drivers used
[05:54] <aaron11> urlin2u: Ok
[05:54] <aaron11> urlin2u: Lemmy try that
[05:55] <urlin2u> aaron11, post it I'm not a nvidia person but many others are.
[05:55] <dr_willis> aaron11:  whats the exact nvidia chipset in use?
[05:55] <aaron11> urlin2u: May I private message it to you?
[05:55] <aaron11> dr_willis: Its not nvidia
[05:55] <aaron11> its intel
[05:56] <urlin2u> aaron11, I doubt it will help this s not an area I'm even close to knowing.
[05:56] <urlin2u> is
[05:56] <dr_willis> that is odd with intel.  Normally nomodeset is not needed.
[05:56] <urlin2u> radeon is at times
[05:57] <fermulator> aaron11: please paste output of "sudo lshw -C video"
[05:57] <aaron11> fermulator: one sec lemmy try that
[05:57] <fermulator> aaron11: into pastebin http://pastebin.com/
[05:58] <fermulator> aaron11: as well as, "dpkg --list | grep nvidia"
[05:58] <urlin2u> aaron11, this is this user info   00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[05:58] <aaron11> fermulator: http://pastebin.com/vixUHaLX
[05:58] <aaron11> urlin2u: You told me to type that
[05:59] <aaron11> urlin2u: lspci | grep VGA
[05:59] <fermulator> aaron11: yeah, Intel video card, not nVidia
[05:59] <urlin2u> aaron11, yeah , just need the channel to se.
[05:59] <urlin2u> I guessed nvidia
[06:00] <aaron11> urlin2u fermulator : How can I fix this?
[06:01] <fermulator> aaron11: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-intel-82852855gm-drivers-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html
[06:01] <aaron11> I think I saw a forum post with the exact laptop as me and same prob
[06:01] <aaron11> fermulator: Ill check that out
[06:02] <uns0b1ll> how to view which interface on nic is occupied by cat6 cord ?
[06:03] <moose-machine> hi everyone. i need some help with tethering my iphone 4 via bluetooth. it was working fine till it suddenly stopped doing so.
[06:03] <aaron11> fermulator: Wait, will this be effective if I do it on LiveCD?
[06:03] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: in a terminal, run the command "ifconfig", it will list all of your interfaces, you're looking for "UP"
[06:04] <fermulator> aaron11: not persistent, no. once you add the PPA, and install the driver, .... hmmm ... how to reload without restarting ...
[06:04] <aaron11> fermulator: So I should boot into hard drive and how do I get a terminal?
[06:05] <aaron11> or how do I even connect to the internet?
[06:05] <aaron11> How do I get nomodeset mode in HDD
[06:05] <aaron11> Too many questions sorry :S
[06:05] <fermulator> aaron11: you should be able to choose "recovery mode" (hold escape before booting, it will prompt u)
[06:05] <fermulator> aaron11: once you're in, CTRL+ALT+F1 should get you to a raw terminal (no gui)
[06:05] <aaron11> I try that
[06:05] <uns0b1ll> fermulator,  all display UP
[06:05] <uns0b1ll> but only one cord is plugged in
[06:05] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: do some say "no carrier"?
[06:06] <uns0b1ll> no all up
[06:06] <aaron11> fermulator: I tried that but it just the same black screen
[06:06] <aaron11> fermulator: How can I boot into nomodeset mode in hard drive?
[06:07] <uns0b1ll> Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:30:67:4e:f3:3f
[06:07] <uns0b1ll>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:07] <uns0b1ll>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:07] <uns0b1ll>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[06:07] <uns0b1ll>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[06:07] <FloodBot1> uns0b1ll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <uns0b1ll>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[06:07] <fermulator> aaron11: http://maketecheasier.com/solving-ubuntu-karmic-black-screen-issue/2009/12/29
[06:07] <aaron11> fermulator: Will it work for 11.04?
[06:07] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[06:08] <uns0b1ll> second question - is there any1 setting up dynamips lab on ubuntu ?
[06:08] <fermulator> aaron11: it should, the instructions vs. what you actually see on the screen might be a wee bit different
[06:08] <aaron11> Thx dr_willis
[06:08] <dr_willis> its a simple option to enable to test. :)  boot to grub menu, hit 'e' i think  change 'quiet splash' to be 'nomodeset'
[06:08] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: pastebin it
[06:08] <dr_willis> theni think its f10 to boot the changed boot entry
[06:08] <soreau> dr_willis: not ctrl+x anymore?
[06:08] <uns0b1ll> fermulator, its just ifconfig output - all interfaces UP state without any cords plugged in to them
[06:08] <dr_willis> Ive not had touse nomodeset on my 11.10 test system. :)  used to need it all the time on the older releases.
[06:09] <dr_willis> soreau:  i think either work
[06:09] <soreau> oh ok
[06:09] <soreau> dr_willis: What gpu are you testing with?
[06:10] <calmpitbull> ok how to get brcm80211 drivers
[06:10] <dr_willis> soreau:  3 differnt nvidia;s and an ati. used to need nomodeset to install  with the nvidia systems.  havent needed to in the beta
[06:10] <uns0b1ll> under freebsd i remember converting windows driver
[06:10] <soreau> ! broadcom | calmpitbull
[06:10] <uns0b1ll> but this is ubuntu so i dontknow
[06:10] <soreau> dr_willis: oh cool
[06:11] <soreau> dr_willis: Ive never needed nomodeset with my radeon.. went to kms when it first came out and never looked back
[06:11] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: hmmmm. ... AH, here it is, look for "RUNNING" vs. not
[06:11] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: sorry, took me a while to see that
[06:11] <calmpitbull> ubottu: thx ill check it there
[06:12] <calmpitbull> ubottu: he he
[06:12] <firegas> I need some help with my CD drive
[06:12] <firegas> it is not being recognized
[06:12] <uns0b1ll> fermulator, np - odd thing is 4 interfaces Running
[06:12] <soreau> firegas: Is it recognized in your system bios?
[06:12] <firegas> The idea is 5 gallons of gasoline+fireants = great drink?
[06:12] <firegas> The idea is 5 gallons of gasoline+fireants = great drink?
[06:12] <firegas> The idea is 5 gallons of gasoline+fireants = great drink?
[06:12] <FloodBot1> firegas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:12] <fermulator> uns0b1ll ... there's GOT to be a difference there, LoL; i'm looking at mine, and I have 2 interfaces, one is plugged in, only one says running
[06:12] <soreau> -_-
[06:12] <uns0b1ll> i have total of 12 interfaces on 4 nic cards - i would guess this 4 interfaces on single NIC card - they all running
[06:13] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: http://pastebin.com/K48kst8Y
[06:13] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: server?
[06:13] <uns0b1ll> fermulator, something like that
[06:13] <calmpitbull> ubottu: problem is that i was on this page and i can't download new firmware
[06:13] <wildbat> uns0b1ll: ..... that's too much ~ give me one of your nic! XD
[06:13] <uns0b1ll> http://pastebin.com/7vv7HdVC
[06:13] <calmpitbull> ubottu: from the link link is broken
[06:14] <uabn93> hi, can anyone help me hide all files between separate users....or is there a link anyone can point me to that talks about user ids and managing groups?
[06:14] <uns0b1ll> wildbat, :) need them for one project
[06:14] <uns0b1ll> wildbat, once i pass it - u can have it
[06:14] <uns0b1ll> :P
[06:15] <calmpitbull> can anybody help me to get bcms80211 driver working
[06:15] <urlin2u> calmpitbull, this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:15] <wildbat> uabn93: you don't hide them ~ you limit the access of it ~ read man chmod / chown.
[06:16] <uns0b1ll> calmpitbull, have u tried converting from windows ? when i was on freebsd 7 i think that was the only way for me :D
[06:16] <dr_willis> !permissions
[06:16] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: here we go:
[06:16] <fermulator> fermulator@fermmy:~/scripts/games$ sudo ifplugstatus eth0
[06:16] <fermulator> eth0: link beat detected
[06:16] <fermulator> fermulator@fermmy:~/scripts/games$ sudo ifplugstatus eth1
[06:16] <fermulator> eth1: unplugged
[06:16] <uns0b1ll> fermulator, :D
[06:16] <uns0b1ll> fermulator, ur the man !
[06:17] <uns0b1ll> ifplugstatus
[06:17] <uns0b1ll> lemmetry
[06:17] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: you can get it from ifplugd package
[06:17] <calmpitbull> uns0b1ll: no man it could be done normally i did it before but i forgot how
[06:17] <uabn93> dr_willis: thanks
[06:17] <uabn93> and wildbat
[06:17] <uns0b1ll> ouh
[06:17] <uns0b1ll> no out the box ?
[06:17] <fermulator> nope
[06:17] <uns0b1ll> i'm not going to install anything... out of principle :D
[06:17] <dr_willis> !info ifplugstatus
[06:17] <uns0b1ll> i want to find way to see that current on the nic interface
[06:17] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: ifstatus is a regular command (in unix at least), but for some reason Ubuntu Linux doesn't include it
[06:18] <dr_willis> !find ifplugstatus
[06:18] <MeirD> Is it possible to easily downgrade from Ubuntu 11.04?
[06:18] <dr_willis> theres ethtool
[06:18] <abhilash> I have a very basic doubt in PHP, can anyone help ?
[06:18] <uns0b1ll> bl;ah
[06:18] <dr_willis> MeirD:  nope.. no downgradeing.. :) reinstall.
[06:18] <dr_willis> !downgrade
[06:18] <dr_willis> !info ifplugd
[06:18] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: why are you reluctant to install a package? :/ -- you can't expect a distro that fits on a CD to have /every/ package we'll ever need :-)
[06:18] <MeirD> thnx
[06:19] <uabn93> i just wanted to make sure i had everything set before trying out Prey for my laptop
[06:21] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: "ifconfig -s" kind of gives you a better "eyeball" way to see differences between interfaces, but I still see that you have 4x "RUNNING", which is weird if you only have one cable plugged in
[06:21] <fermulator> (tabular output)
[06:22] <uns0b1ll> could it be bug ?
[06:25] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: do you have ethtool installed?
[06:25] <fermulator> !info ethtool
[06:25] <fermulator> "sudo ethtool ethX"
[06:26] <fermulator> "sudo ethtool ethX" | grep Link
[06:26] <fermulator> fermulator@fermmy:~/scripts/games$ sudo ethtool eth0 | grep Link
[06:26] <fermulator> 	Link detected: yes
[06:26] <fermulator> fermulator@fermmy:~/scripts/games$ sudo ethtool eth1 | grep Link
[06:26] <fermulator> 	Link detected: no
[06:26] <FloodBot1> fermulator: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:26] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | fermulator
[06:26] <fermulator> FloodBot1; sorry :-)
[06:27] <fermulator> when does the slippery slope end?  should i pastebin after 2 lines? 5 lines?
[06:27] <rww> fermulator: yes
[06:27] <dr_willis> 4+
[06:27] <fermulator> kk
[06:27] <dr_willis> depending on the output. :)
[06:27] <rww> I'd say anything over 2, but I'm a bit...
[06:27] <dr_willis> i dident see much need to paste what you pasted at all.. really.
[06:27] <fermulator> true, useless paste I guess
[06:28] <fermulator> it's late at night for me, I'm no longer thinking heh 2:30AM
[06:28] <uns0b1ll> fermulator, letme see
[06:29] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: in answer to your question if this is a bug? ... I think maybe it is.  Why doesn't ifconfig show the "link status" of an interface?  It does in UNIX, not sure why it doesn't in Linux Ubuntu
[06:29] <zHammeRz> fermulator, it is annoying..I had to install ethtools same as you to get the info
[06:30] <uns0b1ll> yea oh well as long as it wont affect my lab enviroment
[06:30] <dr_willis> how often do you even need to get link status? you seeing if the dog chewed up the cable?
[06:31] <zHammeRz> no, make sure it's at full duplex when your doing gigabit tuning to get more speed
[06:31] <uns0b1ll> its not critical but nix* more serious when it comes to this type of stuff
[06:31] <dr_willis> I thought ethtool showed the duplex.. but im not on a linux box right now to check
[06:32] <uns0b1ll> dr_willis, it shows duplex
[06:32] <zHammeRz> he does, he was asking about ifconfig
[06:32] <zHammeRz> *it
[06:32] <subh> hi plz anybody help me to use library libcap libnet and openssl
[06:32] <dr_willis> subh:  thats a bit of a broad question.
[06:32] <uns0b1ll> any way to see if my nic supports 1gpbs ?
[06:33] <subh> i am working on prevention of ARP cache poisoning
[06:33] <zHammeRz> uns0b1ll, check the model #, for me I consulted my motherboard mfg.
[06:33] <subh> so i need to write code
[06:33] <subh> so where should start
[06:33] <uns0b1ll> hm
[06:34] <zHammeRz> but ethtool will also tell you supported link speeds
[06:34] <subh> i don't know how to use such libraries
[06:34] <subh> can u give me link for examples where i can learn
[06:34] <fermulator> dr_willis, uns0b1ll, zHammeRz: I've submitted this question to Linux Forums: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux/182551-why-doesnt-ifconfig-display-link-status-carrier-status.html#post860270
[06:35] <uns0b1ll> fermulator, sweetz
[06:35] <zHammeRz> best of luck fermulator
[06:35] <uns0b1ll> ethtool showed eth as full duplex and 100mb/s
[06:35] <uns0b1ll> i guess i cant get 1gpbs out of it
[06:35] <uns0b1ll> oh wel
[06:35] <fermulator> uns0b1ll: yes, ethtool tell syou the capabilities of the NIC
[06:35] <uns0b1ll> funny thing it shows 10mb/s and half duplex for disconnected ports
[06:36] <uns0b1ll> but i love link detected feature. too bad its not build in ;)
[06:36] <fermulator> !info ifconfig
[06:36] <fermulator> !search ifconfig
[06:37] <fermulator> interesting ... what package provides ifconfig ... or built into kernel?
[06:37] <uns0b1ll> okay one round at Red Orchestra 2 and im out ;) thanks roxorz
[06:38] <fermulator> !info net-tools
[06:38] <soreau> fermulator: Yep, net-tools
[06:44] <fermulator> FYI: also just tested against RedHat 5.6, w/ similar version of net-tools, both are missing the status field in ifconfig
[06:44] <ihateeverything> is anybody awake?
[06:44] <Gallo> hello all.
[06:44] <toobluesc> mpppp
[06:44] <toobluesc> moooo
[06:44] <Gallo> lol
[06:45] <ihateeverything> guys
[06:45] <ihateeverything> i think someone i'm into is lying to me
[06:45] <ihateeverything> do i confront her or let it slide
[06:45] <dr_willis> Yes ihateeverything ...
[06:46] <dr_willis> and this is for Ubuntu support.
[06:46] <bazhang> ihateeverything, thats offtopic here
[06:46] <rww> !ra | ihateeverything
[06:46] <Gallo> hey folks I'm a linux newbie and setting up my wlan0 is kicking my @ss, can someone help, I've read a bunch of linux networking guides but still fuctured wlan0
[06:46] <ihateeverything> please, just yes or no.
[06:46] <bazhang> ihateeverything, please stop
[06:46] <ihateeverything> seroiusly?
[06:46] <ihateeverything> do you have any other suggestions than ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:47] <dr_willis> go see a counsler..
[06:47] <zHammeRz> call up dr. phil
[06:47] <rww> like the bot said...
[06:47] <ihateeverything> those are all horrible suggestions.
[06:47] <rww> anyways. Back to Ubuntu support :D
[06:47] <zHammeRz> or montel, but etiher way please stfu :)
[06:47] <Gallo> he he
[06:47] <rww> zHammeRz: language
[06:47] <ihateeverything> i hope you all don' have girlfriends or relationships.
[06:47] <dr_willis> ihateeverything:   to be nice about it.. we dont care.  take it elsewhere.
[06:47] <winpipe425> hello
[06:47] <Gallo> lmao
[06:48] <zHammeRz> well it is a full moon on a saturday night..never know what your going to see in here lol
[06:48] <rww> moving on...
[06:48] <winpipe425> I was wondering if someone could recomend some software to me. I am looking for a free alternative to vmware
[06:48] <rww> winpipe425: VirtualBox
[06:48] <Gallo> any hope of help on wireless set up in here ...lol   pleas don't kick I'll leave lol
[06:48] <zHammeRz> winpipe425, I used virtualbox
[06:50] <zHammeRz> df
[06:50] <dr_willis> Gallo:  totally depends on the wireless chipset. Most all mine  work out of the box these days
[06:50] <lqgr00ve> which log should i check to see why i'm failing to authenticate?
[06:51] <Gallo> it's an intel
[06:52] <Gallo> pro wireless4965
[06:52] <Gallo> driver =iwl4965
[06:53] <erkan^> Hello, which program can I make a pictogram?
[06:55] <dr_willis> whats a pictogram?
[06:55] <anand__> Is any ubuntu staff around to help me out?
[06:55] <rww> anand__: best to ask your question and see :)
[06:56] <anand__> Hi, I've just installed natty(64bit) via wubi, and have virtually exhausted all possible guides to installing the nvidia drivers the "correct" way..
[06:56] <anand__> I was wondering if someone could help me debug the issue step by step
[06:57] <Myrtti> anand__: er, staff? there is only volunteers
[06:57] <Sterist> can anyone verify for me that the amd64 download is not amd specific?
[06:57] <devish> how could i know that nfs is running where is status thing
[06:57] <devish> ?
[06:57] <Gallo> dmesg was showing ADDRCONF(netdev_up) : wlan0 link is not ready............. can anyone help out a noob lol
[06:57] <dr_willis> Sterist:  its just called that because amd had 64bit first
[06:57] <anand__> Myrtti..yes, and knowledgeable volunteers too :)
[06:57] <dr_willis> Sterist: it works for intel 64bit
[06:57] <bingopajama> alo ha
[06:58] <anand__> anyone?
[06:58] <Sterist> dr_willis i dont doubt you but is there any documented info on that? i tried help.ubuntu.com to no success
[06:58] <moose-machine> hi. can anyone help me regarding tethering for my iphone 4 with ubuntu via bluetooth? it was working fine. but has stopped working all of a sudden.
[06:58] <bingopajama> hey willis do you know anything about the up coming arm cpu technology?
[06:58] <webosnik> hi
[06:58] <bazhang> !ot | bingopajama
[06:59] <bingopajama> hiza!
[06:59] <dr_willis> Sterist:  its just called amd64 because amd had it first.. they could call it Bubba64 i guess. :)
[06:59] <devish> can anyone tell ,how could i know that nfs is running where is its status thing
[06:59] <bingopajama> i was wondering if it supported linux ubuntu
[06:59] <aurilliance> Does anyone know of an application that will display stats of how much internet I have used on my desktop or task bar?
[06:59] <dr_willis> Sterist:  i THINK theres one very rare intel chip that it wont work on.
[07:00] <dr_willis> Sterist:  but i maybe thinking of 32bit vs 64 bit. I think theres one intel chipset that cant do 32bit.
[07:00] <anand__> okay guess no number for jakucha
[07:00] <Sterist> dr_willis like i said, i dont doubr you lol.... i just want to look into why this isn't mentioned in the downloads page as the lack thereof has cause me a lot of trouble
[07:01] <dr_willis> lack of what? the download page suggests 32bit if you dont know what you are doing i recall.
[07:01] <dr_willis> hit up search engine for 'why is 64bit called amd64' perhaps?
[07:01] <rww> 32-bit is "(recommended)" specifically for people who don't know better, yes
[07:02] <dr_willis> i belive ive seen some distros trying to get away from that nameing convention.  but i dont recall which one was doing it.
[07:03] <Gallo> dr_willis can you point me to where to get a good guide on ubuntu wireless setup, or pherhaps help me with this a bit ?
[07:03] <bazhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64  <------ Sterist
[07:03] <dr_willis> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq
[07:03] <dr_willis> :)
[07:03] <erkan^> Hello, which program can I make a pictogram?
[07:04] <rww> http://rww.name/articles/architecture-lingo O:)
[07:04] <dr_willis> Gallo:  it would all depend on the chipset. theres the wireless wiki page
[07:04] <bazhang> erkan^, whats a pictogram
[07:04] <Gallo> k thanks dr_willis
[07:04] <dr_willis>  "AMD64" is the name chosen by AMD for their 64-bit extension to the Intel x86 instruction set. Before release, it was called "x86-64" or "x86_64",
[07:04] <erkan^> icons, bazhang
[07:05] <dr_willis> a pictogram is an icon?  that seems.. wrong. ;)
[07:05] <erkan^> i'm sorry dr
[07:05] <erkan^> dr_willis,
[07:05] <erkan^> do you understand what i ask?
[07:05] <urlin2u> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictogram
[07:05] <dr_willis> A pictograph[1], also called pictogram(me), is an ideogram that conveys its meaning through its pictorial resemblance to a physical object.
[07:05] <dr_willis> so... its an image...
[07:06] <dr_willis> :)
[07:06] <urlin2u> GIMP?
[07:06] <erkan^> GIMP is big
[07:06] <erkan^> simple software?
[07:06] <dr_willis> you are asking how to make an image file.. theres dozens of images editors out there
[07:06] <aurilliance> Does anyone know of an application that will display stats of how much internet I have used on my desktop or task bar?
[07:07] <dr_willis> !info mtpaint
[07:07] <erkan^> yes
[07:07] <sysop3>  I could not get the installer to let me setup a software raid.  so I booted to a live cd setup the raid then boot to the server cd and boom I can setup software raid
[07:07] <sysop3> wierd
[07:07] <namoamitabuddha> IS THERE ANYONE USING LIGHTDM?
[07:07] <erkan^> ok thx
[07:07] <urlin2u> aurilliance, you can find pre-made conkies.
[07:07] <dr_willis> theres prob. a dozen other image editors/paint apps in the repos.
[07:07] <bazhang> namoamitabuddha, no caps
[07:07] <namoamitabuddha> bazhang: ok
[07:08] <dr_willis> namoamitabuddha:  and you may want to ask the actual question. Not 'who uses what...'
[07:08] <Gallo> dr_willis hmm why amd 64 fact, lol for my wireless problem Gallo = noob to linux....
[07:08] <namoamitabuddha> Does lightdm support for switching users?
[07:10] <dr_willis> namoamitabuddha:  install it, try it and see?  i never use switching users feature of any of the Xdms
[07:10] <dr_willis> its homepage may state its features also
[07:10] <namoamitabuddha> dr_willis: I've installed but I have no idea to switch users.
[07:10] <dr_willis> menu item on it screen if it supports it.. it might not.
[07:11] <dr_willis> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LightDM/Design  says it supports it namoamitabuddha
[07:11] <dr_willis> Supporting multiple simultaneous logins by exposing what users are logged in, and starting new X servers for each user (user switching).
[07:12] <namoamitabuddha> dr_willis: I'll see
[07:17] <Gallo> dr_willis what cmd do i use, to pull up info needed for wireless set on ubuntu?
[07:18] <urlin2u> lspci | grep VGA
[07:18] <nac-godfather> "wireless set" ?
[07:18] <dr_willis> Gallo:  various if* commands like ifconfig or iwconfig - ive rarely needed to do so.
[07:18] <nac-godfather> lspci | grep "802.11"
[07:18] <nac-godfather> that'll give you chipset, unless it's a usb dongle
[07:18] <dr_willis> ive not had to fight with wireless in a few years. :)
[07:18] <Gallo> no usb thnx
[07:19] <nac-godfather> then you look up the driver for the chipset.  Better to find the monitor mode supported (injection) ones
[07:19] <aldos> hi. I have a problem with Totem: I can't seek some mp3s. Any solutions?
[07:19] <devish> Gallo, airmon-ng...;)
[07:19] <nac-godfather> totem itself or the plugin for firefox?
[07:19] <aldos> totem itself
[07:19] <aaron11> Hello. Ive installed 11.04 and now when it finishes with the purple screen it just shows a dark screen. You can tell its working right because you can hear the drum sounds and you can very faintly make out the windows that come up. Im suspecting this has something to do with my backlight, so I need a way to boot into 11.04 without having to shine a flashlight to see. http://pastebin.com/6ZgeEhXD is lspci | grep VGA. I am currently wo
[07:20] <aldos> i am using 64bit version. i don't know if it's a useful info
[07:20] <nac-godfather> wow
[07:20] <wildbat> !nomodeset | aaron11: try this
[07:20] <nac-godfather> yeah
[07:20] <Bum> hi how to place app shrtcuts on the desktop
[07:21] <urlin2u> nac-godfather, uh I guess not its late here ben a long day.
[07:21] <dr_willis> aaron11:  so the plymouth animation works? but the login screen is all dark?
[07:21] <aaron11> wildbat: I know that I can do that, but that just ruins the whole experience
[07:21] <nac-godfather> yeah the nouveau drivers suck ass, not sure why they are the default now.
[07:22] <aldos> no one can help me?
[07:22] <aaron11> dr_willis: well not really but its just a blank purple screen first, then it goes dark and you can see the ubuntu logo in the purple screen then goes into login screen
[07:22] <dr_willis> aaron11:  so you are using an nvidia video chipset?
[07:23] <aaron11> dr_willis: Asked this question here before, maybe you dont remember. Im using intel card
[07:23] <Gallo> intel Corp Pro/Wireless 4965AGN [Kedron] network connection rev. 61
[07:23] <dr_willis> aaron11:  im lucky to rember my own name.
[07:23] <dr_willis> ive never seen a laptop that could go that dark. :)
[07:23] <aaron11> dr_willis: Well it is going dark
[07:23] <dr_willis> aaron11:  the live cd - worked properly?
[07:24] <nac-godfather> yeah, probably the problem is the initial driver detection and set.  You should just use that nomodeset or use the vesa boot, to get it to install, otherwise if it's already installed, completely remove those drivers if the nomodeset works (nouveau).'
[07:24] <wildbat> aldos: the mp3 isn't indexed properly may be? try other player see if like vlc/ mplayer seek?
[07:24] <aaron11> dr_willis: Well, the first boot, no, same problems. Second boot yes, it worked fine. I thought it was just something small that went wrong so I just installed it
[07:24] <urlin2u> aldos, try rhythm box mp3 is audio.
[07:24] <aaron11> :S
[07:24] <aaron11> Stupid mistake
[07:25] <dr_willis> aaron11:  Hmm.. tested a live cd lately?  It would suck if this is actually some hardware issue you are chaseing.
[07:25] <Gallo> does that info help, for setting up wireless ?
[07:25] <nac-godfather> trying to capture a wpa handshake right now devish, fun stuff
[07:25] <aaron11> dr_willis: No, it worked fin in fedora 14
[07:25] <aldos> with rhytmbox and vlc the seeking function works fine
[07:25] <Gallo> driver installed or at least showing is iwl4965
[07:25] <aaron11> dr_willis: Its a similar problem that I experienced with Gnome 3 in Fedora 15
[07:25] <nac-godfather> looking to find other pyrit user's with new nvidia GPU's, maybe we could setup a remote cluster for cracking wpa!
[07:26] <nac-godfather> we could all share.
[07:26] <urlin2u> aldos, totem has its limitations.
[07:26] <paul3> guys, hi, can someone help me with the language issue? please
[07:26] <aaron11> dr_willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742575
[07:27] <erkan^> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_icon
[07:27] <aaron11> dr_willis: This guy has the same problem, going to try his solution.
[07:27] <Gallo> nac-godfather ?
[07:28] <aldos> no solutions? :(
[07:28] <nac-godfather> hold on, wasn
[07:28] <nac-godfather> paying attention
[07:28] <Gallo> aight
[07:28] <Silent_Samurai> erkan^, I saw the pic and now I'm going to look for Guitar Hero on my Smart-Touch XD
[07:28] <Gallo> intel Corp Pro/Wireless 4965AGN [Kedron] network connection rev. 61
[07:28] <Gallo> driver installed or at least showing is iwl4965
[07:29] <aaron11> dr_willis: It could be the problem with the newest kernels
[07:29] <Gallo> does that info help, for setting up wireless ?
[07:29] <dr_willis> aaron11:  tried  the beta release yet?
[07:29] <aaron11> dr_willis: How can I get an older kernel?
[07:29] <aaron11> dr_willis: The Beta of 11.10?
[07:29] <dr_willis> aaron11:  they are in the repos i belive. ive rarely needed them
[07:29] <nac-godfather> Gallo:  I would suggest following this guide http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=iwlagn&DokuWiki=b3968baeb6cbcf075e80cde04b07d7bd
[07:29] <dr_willis> aaron11:  if it dont work properly. it would be worthit to file a bug befor release
[07:30] <nac-godfather> if ur interested in ever cracking wep and other wireless networks ;)
[07:30] <Gallo> thanx nac-godfather
[07:30] <Gallo> 4sure
[07:30] <devish>   Gallo don't do that
[07:31] <kaushik_> hi all
[07:31] <Gallo> lmao
[07:31] <aaron11> dr_willis: hmm... im going to reboot with the changes ive made to the rc.local. If it doesnt work ill come back.
[07:31] <aaron11> brb
[07:31] <nac-godfather> Gallos, if you're looking for a easy install, you could probably check restricted drivers manager, if it's still included or download (jockey)
[07:31] <Gallo> I'll start with my own lol
[07:31] <kaushik_> has anyone  worked on linuxfromscratch.com
[07:31] <excelsior1979> so I'm attempting to burn an iso (11.04) and it won't burn. It says 195 hours left to go. But the title bar says "Burning Disc (100% Done)", below that, "Burning image to DVD", below that time bar, below that "Creating image checksum" and then the cancel button. I'm considering hitting that button.
[07:32] <Gallo> heh, looking to learn linux well
[07:32] <nac-godfather> just eject it (force) and see if it works, or check the checksum afterwards to confirm it worked.
[07:32] <nac-godfather> probably won't though, from my experience
[07:32] <nac-godfather> maybe a scratch?
[07:32] <excelsior1979> maybe.
[07:32] <nac-godfather> or use a different burning program (brasero) or whatever
[07:33] <excelsior1979> I think I am using brasero
[07:33] <nac-godfather> k3b was awesome but I'm running gnome now.  if you're kde, give it a shot
[07:33] <nac-godfather> you could still use it, but I don't mix apps like that
[07:33] <excelsior1979> straight ubuntu
[07:33] <excelsior1979> gnome
[07:34] <excelsior1979> 10.10
[07:34] <nac-godfather> yeah, me too, I use brasero or nautilus
[07:34] <nac-godfather> sometimes discs are just finnicky
[07:34] <excelsior1979> you can burn iso's in nautilus?
[07:35] <nac-godfather> maybe erase it a couple times or maybe use mac os x's disk utility to zero it out.  I think there might be a linux solution, but not sure
[07:35] <nac-godfather> i'm not sure about iso's I'd have to look.
[07:35] <urlin2u> excelsior1979, hey you got installed eh.
[07:36] <nac-godfather> "Nautilus can also burn ISO DVD and CD images. Just insert a blank DVD or CD disk and then drag to ISO disk image file to a blank CD/DVD icon"
[07:38] <trickyj> help
[07:38] <yagoo> trickyj, yelp?
[07:38] <trickyj> 1
[07:38] <guerrilha__> yulp?
[07:38] <yagoo> 2
[07:38] <trickyj> I am  sorry Thx :)
[07:39] <yagoo> 3asy
[07:39] <excelsior1979> nevermind\
[07:40] <excelsior1979> I tried $ eject
[07:40] <excelsior1979> worked
[07:40] <Guest34211> is hddtemp installed by default in natty?
[07:41] <excelsior1979> so how do I check the disk for errors?
[07:41] <damno> is there any pdf viewer plugin for FF other than adobe's?
[07:41] <AwwwCrap> I'm trying to use joy2key in a script, but the next command (for the emulator) doesn't start because joy2key doesn't quit... how do I start a command line process as a standalone, in a bash script
[07:41] <AwwwCrap> ?
[07:41] <yagoo> excelsior1979, check the filesystem? ( a disk can contain many partitions -- which contain different filesystems)
[07:42] <yagoo> excelsior1979, e2fsck (an offline filesystem)
[07:42] <damno> is there any pdf viewer plugin for FF other than adobe's?
[07:42] <Gallo> nac-godfather, Well....airmon -ng start wlan0, gives me the same results as on the link you suggested , but....am I suppose to have PID 1349 dhcpclient3 in there ?
[07:43] <AwwwCrap> excelsior1979: best do do it from a live session so that the scan target isn't mounted
[07:43] <yagoo> damno, probably evince..
[07:43] <trickyj> screen -d
[07:43] <damno> yagoo: evince has a ff plugin??
[07:43] <Gallo> nac-godfather, you looking in ?
[07:44] <yagoo> damno, a plugin may be mentioned in the descriptions, if u search for "pdf" keyword in the pacakage manager
[07:44] <nac-godfather> Galla, did you already install the drivers and get it working?  airmon-ng is probably to check injection support and monitor mode.
[07:45] <damno> yagoo: nope.no plugin coming up for evince in synaptic
[07:45] <Gallo> nac-godfather, actually...hmm can i pm you a sec?
[07:46] <nac-godfather> sure if you get this, computer is freezing upsu
[07:46] <yagoo> damno, i don't think there is any alternate.. other than the pdf will open in a separate window outside FF..
[07:46] <excelsior1979> how do I check an install dvd I just burned for errors?
[07:47] <xiaotuyi> 有人在吗
[07:47] <damno> yagoo: hmm.. a plugin for inbrowser viewing like chrome would've been good. anyway , thanks.
[07:47] <coolgoose> hi guys, I'm running ubuntu 11.10 and i was wondering if soembody knows how to modify the timeout in gtk3 for the small "filter" box that appears when you start typing in a list / nautilus folder (in 2.x it stays up a lot, in 3.0 it acts more like kde in the way that you can almost only have 1 letter a a time)
[07:48] <wildbat> !cn | xiaotuyi
[07:48] <yagoo> damno, oh really?
[07:48] <wildbat> !md5sum | excelsior1979
[07:48] <yagoo> damno, it may be still experimental..
[07:49] <xiaotuyi> 看不懂阿
[07:49] <yagoo> xiaotuyi, "??" english.
[07:50] <yagoo> oO
[07:50] <xiaotuyi> ok
[07:50] <xiaotuyi> I know a little
[07:50] <robotti^> read a?
[07:51] <xiaotuyi> are you foreigner
[07:51] <xiaotuyi> ???
[07:51] <robotti^> Are you? :D
[07:51] <robotti^> I am from Finland
[07:51] <xiaotuyi> what???
[07:51] <robotti^> what?
[07:51] <xiaotuyi> ........
[07:52] <xiaotuyi> 芬兰？？？
[07:52] <excelsior1979> cd /media/cdrom
[07:52] <excelsior1979> md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -v "OK$"
[07:52] <xiaotuyi> robotti
[07:53] <yagoo> excelsior1979, what if its not ok?
[07:53] <yagoo> excelsior1979, (try using "tee" it may be helpful)
[07:54] <travis_> is there a list of apps that are preinstalled in natty?
[07:54] <travis_> i checked google and ubuntu website
[07:54] <OmniscientTools> what's a good dictionary tool for ubuntu
[07:54] <robotti^> xiaotuyi: I cannot speak chinese
[07:54] <xiaotuyi> o
[07:54] <robotti^> xiaotuyi: yes, finland
[07:54] <yagoo> OmniscientTools, there's a widely known one, it's pretty mucvh in all linux distros (search package manager --i'm sure u'll see it)
[07:54] <travis_> OmniscientTools: gnome-dictionary
[07:55] <elky> xiaotuyi, you need to use english here. there are channels with other languages though. #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-tw
[07:55] <travis_> i believe that's the package name
[07:55] <xiaotuyi> #ubunto -cn
[07:55] <xiaotuyi> #ubuntu -cn
[07:56] <xiaotuyi> byebye
[07:56] <yagoo> travis_, there's always the base system.. u can always see what's installed with the package manager
[07:56] <xiaotuyi> i am going to study
[07:56] <Whitesquall> xiaotuyi: /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:57] <xiaotuyi> bye  robotti
[07:57] <travis_> yagoo: what section is it?
[07:57] <OmniscientTools> I'm looking for a dictionary that doesn't require internet
[07:57] <travis_> lol you're never gonna get out of here if you keep typing "#ubuntu -c"
[07:57] <yagoo> travis_, should be in the menu.. one of the modes should show checkmars for whats already insatlled
[07:57] <dr_willis> a dictionary to do what exctly?
[07:57] <xiaotuyi> 嘿嘿
[07:57] <OmniscientTools> dr_willis, umm to look at words
[07:58] <dr_willis> spelling? definitions?
[07:58] <dr_willis> one to use as a password cracker?
[07:58] <OmniscientTools> i guess both mainly definitions
[07:58] <yagoo> dr_willis, dictionaries tell stories. It's interesting to read 'em just for fun i guess..
[07:58] <excelsior1979> how do i blank a disk and rewrite it
[07:58] <excelsior1979> ?
[07:58] <dr_willis> A is for Aardvark... who lives in a hole... :)
[07:58] <yagoo> dr_willis, look up ubuntu.
[07:59] <dr_willis> !ubuntu
[07:59] <Mrokii> Hello. I am following a tutorial that wants me to make a ".asoundrc"-file. There is this entry: pcm "hw:0" #Or whatever your card # is". How can I find out what I have to change in that line?
[07:59] <dr_willis> :)
[07:59] <dr_willis> !find dictionary
[07:59] <yagoo> dr_willis, Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:59] <excelsior1979> how do i blank a disk and rewrite it?
[07:59] <dr_willis> excelsior1979:  i recall k3b having that feautre in its menus.. other burner tools prob do also.
[07:59] <yagoo> dr_willis, ubuntu is an african word.. you don't even know what it means.. LOL
[07:59] <dr_willis> or the command line cdrecord tool.
[07:59] <dr_willis> yagoo:  i never said i dident know.
[08:00] <yagoo> dr_willis, that's not ubuntu defined. HAHAHAH
[08:00] <yagoo> dr_willis, look up your proper dictionary.
[08:00] <dr_willis> Your question was vague.
[08:00] <dr_willis> :)
[08:00] <yagoo> dr_willis, it's a philosophy.. look -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[08:01] <yagoo> dr_willis, bet u didnt know that!
[08:01] <dr_willis> yagoo:  i wrote it.. :P
[08:01] <travis_> the thing is, im not using ubuntu but im writing the documentation for an app...
[08:01] <yagoo> dr_willis, that's what dictionaries are for!
[08:01] <urlin2u> yagoo, found the path to get evince to open pdfs in FF.
[08:01] <dr_willis> travis_:  :) thats interesting job you got.
[08:01] <yagoo> urlin2u, u changed aliases?
[08:01] <travis_> do i have to install ubuntu in a virtual machine to get a list of the preinstalled files
[08:01] <yagoo> urlin2u, thought u said u trying googlechrome.. but dunno if linux version has pdf support
[08:02] <dr_willis> travis_:  a list of ALL files/packges? or just the main tools instgalled?
[08:02] <urlin2u> yagoo, no I thiought the other user had not figured it out
[08:02] <yagoo> urlin2u, he said he's trying googlechrome.. but dont think the latest linux edition has pdf embed support..
[08:02] <zakwilson> Chrome on Linux has PDF support.
[08:02] <dr_willis> travis_:  since it can change from release to release.. or even with some updates after the initial install.
[08:02] <yagoo> zakwilson, thanks..
[08:02] <yagoo> i'll check that out sometime later in the week :)
[08:02] <yagoo> zakwilson, good stuff..
[08:02] <travis_> dr_willis: u mean writing the manual for an app that's going to be used on os 1
[08:02] <travis_> but writng it using os 2?
[08:03] <yagoo> (i'm sick and tired of relying on adobe/sometimes slow pdf rendering)
[08:03] <travis_> i mean is that what you thought was interesting?
[08:03] <dr_willis> travis_:  yep.  why does this apps manual need a list of all installed apps?
[08:03] <urlin2u> yagoo, no I just installed mozplugger and changed applications in FF to use /user/bin/evince    adobe is a pain.
[08:04] <travis_> well i just need to know if 1 app is installed by defualt right now
[08:04] <yagoo> travis_, your goals here sound very trivial.. u can list ur insatlled packages simply with-> dpkg -l
[08:04] <dr_willis> travis_:  what app? the bot can tell us.
[08:04] <rokra> Need help on 11.10, not able to apt-get install anymore : dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable
[08:04] <urlin2u> yagoo, thanks for the idea I had not thought of using another reader.
[08:04] <travis_> yagoo: i know, sort of. i just dont want to look stupid telling users to do an apt-get install when the app is already installed
[08:04] <travis_> hddtemp
[08:04] <yagoo> urlin2u, alternate readers is not a problem.. i think he wants a "plugin"..
[08:04] <dr_willis> !info hddtemp
[08:05] <dr_willis> its 'extra' so not installed by default. :)
[08:05] <dr_willis> but it dosent hurt to tell them how to install it anyway.
[08:05] <travis_> you don't think so?
[08:06] <dr_willis> some variants could have it by default. or theuser installing other apps could pull it in.
[08:06] <dr_willis> !info bash
[08:06] <travis_> i mean, seriuosly, im asking because this is my first time writing tech docs
[08:06] <dr_willis> 'is extra' means to me its not installed by default.
[08:06] <travis_> no, i know that
[08:06] <dr_willis> Ibelive the terms are 'standard' 'required' 'extra'
[08:06] <travis_> i mean, you think i should throw that in the manual just to be sage
[08:07] <travis_> *safee
[08:07] <dr_willis> of course... its trivial to tell them how to install it.
[08:07] <Doomtron> Hello guys, I'm trying to block a user from seeing the processes(?) of another user, I tried creating one group for each user, but the permissions are 555 for all pid's in /proc, so there is another way to do that ? i did some search, but didnt found anything relevant.
[08:07] <travis_> thats true,
[08:07] <travis_> and too much info is better than not enough
[08:08] <dr_willis> plus its not aparently installed by default.. so they will need to install it. :)
[08:09] <travis_> they should put that extra/standard/required stuff on packages.ubuntu.com description
[08:09] <travis_> right
[08:09] <livio> ciao
[08:09] <dr_willis> ive rarely ever looked at that site. :)
[08:09] <excelsior1979> goodnight good guy.
[08:09] <dr_willis> im not even sure where the bot is getting that info from
[08:09] <travis_> lol
[08:09] <yagoo> dr_willis, for u man->"Nelson Mandela explains the concept of Ubuntu" (video on top of page) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29
[08:09] <travis_> maybe apt-cache type thing
[08:10] <dr_willis> yagoo:  thrilling...
[08:10] <yagoo> lol
[08:10] <yagoo> maybe he uses ubuntu linux..
[08:10] <urlin2u> I doubt that
[08:10] <dr_willis> he prob has a iPAD.
[08:10] <yagoo> dr_willis, u think mandela may have anything to do with ubuntu linux?
[08:10] <yagoo> lol
[08:12] <urlin2u> Ubuntu the word and concept is a misappropriated ideal by an anglo, colonialism has a long history with Africa.
[08:13] <travis_> !info misappropriated
[08:13] <ComradeHaz`> Hey all, I am finding that 'hot connecting' a SATA drive does not work in that the drive is not detected until a reboot. I have this issue on 10.04 and 11.04 and have tried on at least 3 different computers. Can anyone assist with getting this working, please?
[08:13] <yagoo> urlin2u, i find it funny i see mandela on that definition page.. sort of reminds me that Richard Stallman.. the great philosopher of OSS movement
[08:13] <ComradeHaz`> (Or at least tell me a work-around)
[08:13] <travis_> idea: bot functions as a dictionary also
[08:14] <dr_willis> ComradeHaz`:  i thought it required special bay/hardware to work.
[08:14] <travis_> do you mean stolen/hijacked?
[08:14] <ComradeHaz`> Well, I seem to recall 'getting it working' on another machine I have where it does work.
[08:15] <urlin2u> yagoo, I use it in spite of this though, but lets be real on this; the Ubuntu concept is very old, in the African usage sense ans very diverse.
[08:15] <ComradeHaz`> gah, brb
[08:15] <urlin2u> and*
[08:16] <mang0> I'm trying to install eggdrop, but apparantly I don't have TCL installed....how do I install it?
[08:17] <yagoo> urlin2u, I trust mandela's version of the word ubuntu than you :)
[08:17] <travis_> okay thanks 4 the help, yagoo and dr_willis
[08:17] <Desyncify> Hello again :), what command can I use to scan my network to see if anyone is connected with my wireless?
[08:18] <yagoo> travis_, there's often the dependency for this same "back" dictionary package/engine .. *dict something.. it can also do more than just english..
[08:18] <yagoo> travis_, if u search that engine's "name" in the package manager.. u should be able to see other dictionaries that can be served..
[08:19] <urlin2u> yagoo, I don't argue with Mandela's explanation that is the real Ubuntu , this operating system and pseudo humanist ideal system has ripped of the real thing.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29
[08:19] <rigved> !info tcl | mang0
[08:19] <travis_> oh, yeah i was just saying it'd be cool
[08:20] <mang0> rigved: Thanks :)
[08:20] <rigved> mang0: use the software center to install tcl
[08:20] <travis_> but it would kind of give away the fact that you don't know what words mean
[08:20] <yagoo> lol urlin2u is really weird.. I posted that link to dr_willis like 10 minutes ago
[08:20] <mang0> rigved: Ah okay
[08:20] <rigved> mang0: you are welcome
[08:20] <travis_> urlin2u: you've got to be kidding
[08:21] <travis_> nobody owns the philosophy
[08:21] <mang0> rigved: Ooooh strange, it's already installed. Eggdrop must be looking in the wrong place :/
[08:21] <travis_> quit trolling
[08:21] <rigved> mang0: maybe you need something else as well. maybe some additional tcl libraries...
[08:22] <mang0> rigved: I'm going to check the readme and install again... :/
[08:22] <travis_> ok c-ya
[08:22] <executionist> is there a list somewhere of supported network cards for ubuntu? dont want to buy another device for which I cant find the drivers
[08:23] <rigved> mang0: do this in the terminal: apt-cache show eggdrop
[08:23] <rigved> mang0: that will tell you which version of tcl you need (like 8.4 or 8.5 etc.)
[08:23] <rigved> mang0: then check whether you have the same version installed or not
[08:23] <mang0> rigved: Ah, okay
[08:24] <rigved> mang0: apt-cache show tcl
[08:24] <yagoo> executionist, http://cateee.net/lkddb/
[08:24] <dr_willis> if you installed an eggdrop bot package. i would think it would pull in tcl if needed.
[08:24] <rigved> mang0: that will tell you which version you have installed.
[08:24] <dr_willis> Unless some support scripts just need it. or it was just reccomended.
[08:24] <dr_willis> tcl is a bit old-school
[08:24] <mang0> rigved: tcl 8.5.0 is required, I've got 8.4....
[08:25] <dr_willis> executionist:  you are refering to wired or wireless?
[08:25] <rigved> dr_willis: tcl is in the depends part of the eggdrop package.
[08:25] <executionist> wired
[08:25] <yagoo> executionist, google " <chipset name> site:http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/ "
[08:25] <rigved> yet, it is not installed is what mang0 is saying
[08:26] <mang0> dr_willis: eggdrop won't install without tcl.
[08:26] <dr_willis> executionist:  i cant say ive ever seen a wired card that dident work.. but when in doubt. Its hard to not recommend  the intel wired nics.  :)
[08:26] <dr_willis> mang0:  installing from source? or a package?
[08:26] <rigved> mang0: ohh see that's the problem. are you compiling a new version?
[08:26] <dr_willis> !info tcl
[08:26] <mang0> dr_willis, rigved: Source, I've got to ./configure to build, and then install it
[08:26] <executionist> dr_willis, it works in a sense that I am online. But it is not properly recognized I am told, cant see the device in wireshark or any other packet sniffer
[08:27] <dr_willis> executionist:  so  to better phrase the question. You need a wired nic that has the extra features to do sniffing. :) i forget what its called.
[08:28] <rigved> mang0: i am not too sure about this but this could break packages.
[08:28] <rigved> mang0: are you sure that there is no ppa available for the eggdrop version that you need?
[08:28] <mang0> rigved: I see. Is there any other way to install eggdrop then?
[08:28] <mang0> oh
[08:28] <executionist> dr_willis, that is an extra feature? I thought all of them were supposed to do that
[08:28] <dr_willis> executionist:  the wireshark homepage/faq might have reccomendations
[08:28] <dr_willis> executionist: i dont think its on all of them.
[08:29] <mang0> rigved: I did exactly what the install readme said ("Open terminal, cd to the location of eggdrop folder, ./configure") etc etc
[08:29] <dr_willis> I seem to recall some mode that some nics/chipsets can use to do the sniffing feature.
[08:29] <dr_willis> been ages since i last bothered to  mess with that stuff
[08:29] <yagoo> !promiscuous mode
[08:30] <yagoo> dr_willis, that's what it's called
[08:30] <rigved> mang0: yes, but you need tcl8.5. is tcl8.5 available in your software center?
[08:30] <dr_willis> yea just  about to paste the line from the wireshark faq. :)
[08:30] <dr_willis> http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/Ethernet
[08:31] <yagoo> dr_willis, tcpdump says so..
[08:31] <dr_willis> if an Ethernet adapter on such a network is put into promiscuous mode, all packets on the network will be seen by that adapter and thus can be captured with that adapter.
[08:31] <yagoo> i believe only root can do that
[08:31] <dr_willis> yep, root has to enable the mode
[08:31] <mang0> rigved: I've got tcl 8.5 bindings...? it's called TCL bindings for graphviz
[08:31] <executionist> dr_willis, wireshark tells me I dont have a nic
[08:31] <dr_willis> that url has some neat info.
[08:32] <yagoo> btw that reminds me to try out the barracda ethertap device i got few months ago.. (this cool little box can take a 9v battery)..
[08:32] <rigved> mang0: no. you need the tcl8.5 package. which version of eggdrop are you trying to compile?
[08:32] <mang0> rigved: eggdrop 1.6.20
[08:34] <Chris64> some greeks her? just wanted to tell them that they country is like an alcohol addict which needs total collaps to realize that they cannot pay more than they earn for that long time. the naivety of the people there makes just speechless.
[08:34] <rigved> mang0: ohh that is an experimental version. it is not even avaliable in 11.10. one moment. let me check
[08:34] <Chris64> just stupid. we give them money, but they don't care..
[08:35] <mang0> rigved: O.o I just downloaded the tar.gz off the downloads page on eggheads.com
[08:35] <mang0> .org*
[08:36] <Guest40513> !info lm-sensors
[08:36] <dr_willis> !info eggdrop
[08:36] <rigved> mang0: yes. i understood that much. ok so i have found a ppa which contains the same version that you want. add this to your software sources: ppa:dns/irc
[08:36] <dr_willis> do you really need the latst eggdrop? ;)
[08:37] <mang0> dr_willis: Probably not....heh, I just wanna experiment with an eddgrop bot :<
[08:37] <mang0> eggdrop*
[08:37] <dr_willis> shows how long eggdrop bots have been around if they are using tcl. :)
[08:38] <rigved> mang0: then update your software sources. then do this in the terminal: sudo apt-get install eggdrop. that will give you version 1.6.20.
[08:39] <mang0> rigved: Okay, how do I update my software sources? ^.^ is it just sudo apt-get update?
[08:39] <rigved> mang0: yes
[08:39] <yagoo> mang0 ya
[08:39] <yagoo> that updates the index files
[08:40] <yagoo> source locations remain unchanged..
[08:40] <rigved> mang0: this is a much better way than compiling tcl and eggdrop from sources.
[08:40] <saquib> hello all , flash plugin is  install but on the software center its says not installed 11.04
[08:41] <mang0> rigved: Okay, getcha :)
[08:42] <almoxarife> saquib: there are a few variations to the way 'flash plugin' is named
[08:42] <saquib> k
[08:42] <saquib> I will check that just curios
[08:44] <almoxarife> saquib: look for flash in synaptic, you should see your install
[08:45] <saquib> hi anyone here from India Delhi
[08:45] <mang0> rigved: Great, eggdrop is installed :D. However, if I "eggdrop" in terminal, it doesn't run....
[08:46] <yagoo> saquib, what's india delhi? a restaurant?
[08:46] <sagaci> yagoo, it's a place
[08:46] <yagoo> sagaci, they server beer too?
[08:46] <sagaci> doesn't really matter...?
[08:46] <mang0> !ot
[08:47] <Singham> sagaci  : Whats d matter ?
[08:47] <saquib> @yagoo just need some local support
[08:47] <saquib> thier comes the bot
[08:47] <yagoo> Singham, he looking for ubuntu kiosks at a indian delhi restaurant i think
[08:48] <saquib> :)
[08:48] <yagoo> saquib :)
[08:48] <saquib> are u indian yagoo ;)
[08:48] <Myrtti> saquib: you could try #ubuntu-in
[08:48] <saquib> @myrtti .. its empty
[08:49] <yagoo> saquib, well europeans thought they landed in india 500 years ago.. depends :)
[08:49] <saquib> ha
[08:50] <yagoo> saquib, i think you know the story :).. what's up with ur ubuntu?
[08:50] <saquib> need some assistance with samba
[08:50] <yagoo> saquib, samba is old skool stuff..
[08:51] <mainrain> for awhile now i have been unable to watch any kind of streaming video online.  firefox/chrome/konqueror doesn't matter.  All videos play the first few seconds and then just sit frozen(although the download bar keeps going) any ideas?  happens on youtube, vimeo, liveleak, i havn't found any streaming video that does work
[08:51] <yagoo> !samba
[08:51] <saquib> thank u bot
[08:51] <yagoo> saquib, remember samba is not a protocol.. it's a set of tools to work with smb/cifs
[08:52] <Gallo> hey can someonetell me why I get error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8b2a) Please...
[08:52] <saquib> well i m a new bie ... i will keep that in mind
[08:52] <yagoo> (it's easy to configure smb/cifs with "swat")
[08:52] <Singham> saquib : By the way ...how are the people in Delhi after the bomb blast ?
[08:52] <yagoo> Singham, that's not needed here.
[08:52] <saquib> life never stops
[08:53] <jiltdil> hi all
[08:53] <Singham> yagoo : Actually..!
[08:53] <Singham> yagoo :   ;)
[08:53] <Myrtti> Singham: actually
[08:53] <jiltdil> i m unable to connect my "Enter" webcam to Ubuntu
[08:54] <yagoo> Singham, u sure don't want to say this on sept 11. don't try to be wise.
[08:54] <saquib> i have 3 pcs sharing a external drive all on windows 7  .. i want to connect with ubuntu .. please give meeh the link
[08:54] <executionist> what is the bittorrent app with the most functionality, transmission is primitive
[08:54] <bjorn_248> how can I revert to an older kernel? I've upgraded a few times and grub automatically added new entries in my menu.lst, but I want to revert to 2.6.34 or earler
[08:54] <bjorn_248> earlier*
[08:54] <yagoo> saquib, i just did.. its ubottu's links
[08:55] <saquib> @executionist I have also the same question
[08:55] <bjorn_248> executionist, I use rtorrent, but honestly transmission is a pretty nice GUI
[08:55] <yagoo> saquib, look into install swat.. then http://localhost:601 or its :901 i forget the exact port #..
[08:55] <jiltdil> Can someon help me in connecting my Webcam to Ubuntu???? I am able to get the microphone connected, but Video isn't working...:(
[08:56] <yagoo> saquib, oh.. u mean "windows" being the server and linux being the client..
[08:56] <saquib> thanks 2yagoo  lemme check
[08:56] <jiltdil> Cheese is getting closed automatically!
[08:56] <yagoo> saquib, konqueror and gnome may already be able to do that.. (use smb:// in url field of either these two)
[08:56] <saquib> the external harddisk is hoot to windows 7
[08:56] <yagoo> ,/gnome nautilus/gnome
[08:56] <Singham> executionist : Deluge
[08:57] <yagoo> saquib, um.. u'd need to setup permissions on ntfs, then permissions on the share..
[08:57] <yagoo> saquib, there's lots of win7 help out there..
[08:57] <mang0> rigved: I've installed it and everything, but if I try to run eggdrop from terminal then I get an error "Config file not loaded (not found or error)" any ideas?
[08:57] <bjorn_248> executionist, deluge is pretty nice too, but I've heard it's heavy on the ram
[08:57] <dr_willis> mang0:  make a config file? :)
[08:57] <saquib> i know that part lemme  try .. 2day Sunday nothing else to do .. Bye Guys happy Ubunting :)
[08:58] <yagoo> ok saquib good luck
[08:58] <saquib> thanks bye now
[08:58] <yagoo> saquib, btw i don't think it's important where people come from.. take care buddy
[08:58] <mang0> dr_willis: Yeah, I would do, but I don't know the install dir of eggdrop. There is no .eggdrop folder....
[08:59] <jiltdil> ???????????????????????????????
[09:00] <bjorn_248> can anyone tell me how to revert to an older kernel installation?
[09:01] <brunner> if I have 8GB of RAM, do I really need a swap partition?
[09:01] <mang0> bjorn_248: Why?
[09:02] <dr_willis> mang0:  make one? :) if thats what the docs say to use
[09:02] <Gallo> can someone help with this ----> "iwconfig wlan0 essid "<name_of_router>" key "<encryption_key>" ------ > gives me error for wireless request " Set Encode" (8ba2) Please...
[09:02] <oCean> bjorn_248: when booting, press shift, this will bring up your grub menu. There should be a selection of all installed kernelimages
[09:02] <mang0> dr_willis Hmm....I should probs read the docs first hahah
[09:02] <dr_willis> brunner:  if you want to use suspend/hibernate you will want one of a little over 8gb. I always make one of at least 1 gb just in case..
[09:02] <dr_willis> mang0:  for running an eggdrop.. Yes.. you will be reading the docs. :)
[09:03] <mang0> dr_willis: hehe
[09:03] <Singham> brunner : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-swap-space.html
[09:03] <brunner> dr_willis: is there a way to disable swap for everything except for hibernation?
[09:03] <brunner> dr_willis: I'm just trying to spare the life of my SSD
[09:04] <brunner> Singham: thanks. I will have a look.
[09:05] <Singham> brunner : Welcum..
[09:06] <o_portista17> hello, my computer just crashed, and i have no idea why..here is the log from, kern.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/686729/
[09:06] <sitaktif> Is there an easy way to go from LTS to non-LTS ?
[09:08] <Myrtti> sitaktif: to an upward version, depending on how big delta you are talking about, yes
[09:09] <brunner> sitaktif: yes, it should be fine. change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to the version you want to upgrade to and apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:10] <bjorn_248> oCean, say I wanted to install an even older kernel than what I've had?
[09:10] <sitaktif> I'm on 10.4 and would like to switch to Stable basically - thanks, any links to the list of sources for natty/oniric ?
[09:11] <sagaci> sitaktif, you want to upgrade to natty?
[09:11] <Myrtti> sitaktif: you already are on the most stable version available
[09:12] <Myrtti> sitaktif: if you want to switch to the newest available, then there really is no "easy" shortcut way
[09:12] <sitaktif> ok so say I want to go to unstable :)  (I always complain my packets are not up-to-date and I am tired of installing ppas)
[09:13] <sitaktif> I am not especially looking for a 1-click solution - a list of sources is good
[09:13] <sagaci> sitaktif, you'd be better off reinstalling from the beta 1 oneiric iso
[09:13] <sitaktif> oh
[09:13] <soreau> ! oneiric
[09:13] <sagaci> or wait a month and reinstall the final release of it
[09:13] <travis_> !info ssh
[09:14] <travis_> is optional means it's installed by default?
[09:14] <Myrtti> travis_: no
[09:14] <Myrtti> travis_: default means default
[09:14] <travis_> ah
[09:14] <travis_> so there's default, optional, and extra
[09:14] <sagaci> travis_, you can connect via ssh but not have people connect to you
[09:15] <sagaci> by default
[09:15] <travis_> yeah i know
[09:15] <travis_> i was checking to see if it was preinstalled
[09:15] <travis_> thanks though
[09:15] <travis_> !info sshd
[09:15] <sitaktif> I I'm not especially fond of the idea of reinstalling my distro.. and it is not really the linux way. What about brunner's solution?
[09:15] <dr_willis> isent ssh installed by default on the server edition?
[09:16] <Myrtti> dr_willis: doubt it
[09:16] <dr_willis> sometimes its justg easier to reinstall :)
[09:16] <sagaci> sitaktif, then sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace every lucid with oneiric
[09:16] <Myrtti> sagaci: you are giving bad advice
[09:16] <dr_willis> yea.. thers a do upgrade command that does it all.. :)
[09:16] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[09:17] <sitaktif> cheers
[09:17] <brunner> sorry, I didn't read my buffer because I was talking to others elsewhere
[09:17] <brunner> why is dist-upgrade bad?
[09:17] <brunner> I used to do it all the time
[09:17] <dr_willis> 'used to' :)
[09:17] <dr_willis> its been  replaced by newer methods.
[09:17] <brunner> dr_willis: I used to use pure debian. now I'm lazy and use the GUI, otherwise I still would.
[09:18] <brunner> dr_willis: please tell me why the old method is bad.
[09:18] <Gallo> Myrtti any idea on post?
[09:18] <dr_willis> brunner:  No idea.. its been replaced by smarter methods.
[09:18] <dr_willis> I rarely upgrade. i tend to always do clean reinstalls.
[09:18] <brunner> dr_willis: you're the one saying that the old method is bad or not as smart, no? so you should be able to tell me why?
[09:18] <dr_willis> since i beta/alpha test.. by the time of release.. my system is very very 'bloated'
[09:18] <brunner> dr_willis: that doesn't sound smart to me.
[09:18] <sagaci> sitaktif, sorry mate, my commands aren't supported. Try reading up on the official documentation and choose what's best for you
[09:18] <travis_> !info openssh-server
[09:19] <dr_willis> brunner:  i am telling you whats common advice and reccomended in this channel and the ubuntu way
[09:19] <brunner> dr_willis: fair enough
[09:19] <dr_willis> see the upgrade factoid for all the info i know of on the topic.
[09:19] <Myrtti> brunner: do-release-upgrade makes sure all the packages that were installed are up to the latest version available, cleans out some excess, and IIRC disables non-official repositories so that they don't break anything during the process
[09:19] <travis_> !info openssh-client
[09:19] <dr_willis> Yea. non official repos.. can be a big issue.
[09:20] <dr_willis> travis_:  standard = installed by default. :)
[09:20] <travis_> Myrtti: i guess default isn't default after all
[09:20] <travis_> : )
[09:20] <dr_willis> I think default maybe 'default for ubuntu' ? ;)
[09:20] <dr_willis> !info bash
[09:20] <dr_willis> and required is? :) even more imporntant..
[09:20] <Myrtti> travis_: yeah sorry, been on the channel for years, I've learnt to selectively ignore ubottu
[09:21] <rigved> mang0: hi. i had gone away. now i'm back.
[09:21] <sitaktif> sagaci: Myrtti dr_willis Thanks, it looks actually quite straightforward (and it's documented so thumbs up :) )
[09:21] <dr_willis> !info dash
[09:21] <travis_> myrtti: itsallgood
[09:21] <travis_> thanks for the help
[09:21] <mang0> rigved: Ah okay, did you see what I wrote earlier?
[09:21] <rigved> mang0: yes
[09:22] <mang0> rigved: Cool, any ideas?
[09:22] <rigved> mang0: are you sure that you are going through the right steps. what does the documentation say about how to run the bot?
[09:22] <mang0> rigved: I'm doing exactly what the readme says, and what the docs say
[09:23] <travis_> !info libsoup2.4-dev
[09:23] <travis_> im writing the documentation for hardinfo
[09:23] <Myrtti> !msgthebot > travis_
[09:23] <dr_willis> !info hardinfo
[09:24] <dr_willis> :)
[09:24] <rigved> mang0: does the doc say anything about the config file?
[09:24] <dr_willis> dosent have any docs tobegin with? or you writing a better wiki/guide?
[09:25] <travis_> myrtti: thanks. i guess that's proper IRCiquette?
[09:25] <Myrtti> travis_: on our very busy channel, yes
[09:26] <travis_> sorry. i guess it's needless to say that its my first time on irc
[09:26] <travis_> used linux for three yers now too
[09:26] <rigved> mang0: http://forum.egghelp.org/viewtopic.php?t=18318 <-- does this help?
[09:26] <mang0> rigved: http://www.eggheads.org/support/egghtml/1.6.20/install.html it says to run ./configure from the eggdrop dir, but I don't have a dir for eggdrop, because I sudo apt-got eggdrop (hehe)
[09:26] <travis_> dr_willis: no documentation
[09:26] <travis_> i couldn't believe it myself
[09:27] <cpfr> hey folks, it a fit of sheer stupidity i typed rm -r /usr/lib/python2.6
[09:27] <cpfr> is there a sane way to repair my system without total system reinstall
[09:27] <rigved> mang0: you need to specify a config file "(full path) at the commandline, as far as i can tell from that forum post
[09:28] <mang0> rigved: Right, but afaik I don't have a config file...
[09:28] <rigved> mang0: you need to create one.
[09:28] <mang0> rigved: okay....how would I go about doing that?
[09:29] <rigved> mang0: does the doc have anything? the doc from which you were initially reading about ./configure command...
[09:30] <rigved> mang0: there should be a README file in the folder. check to see if it has instructions on how to use it.
[09:32] <rigved> mang0: here you go: http://eggwiki.org/Eggdrop.conf <-- that is a wiki article on the default config file...
[09:32] <zHammeRz> the website go offline?
[09:33] <zHammeRz> initial page is there..but then click 'download' and you get a site offline msg
[09:33] <mang0> rigved: quote: "Type './configure' from the Eggdrop directory. The configure script will determine how your system is set up and figure out how to correctly compile Eggdrop. It will also try to find Tcl, which is required to compile."
[09:33] <mang0> but it's still saying no tcl
[09:33] <mang0> :/
[09:33] <rigved> mang0: you do not need to run ./configure any more
[09:34] <rigved> mang0: you already have the compiled verision installed now, from the ppa (version 1.6.20)
[09:34] <mang0> rigved: okay, but if there's no tcl (or at least it's not detecting tcl) surely it's not configuring correctly?
[09:34]  * mang0 is confused
[09:34] <DrQ> hey
[09:34] <DrQ> whats up
[09:34] <scarleo> whats up with startup disk creator? I just downloaded Ubuntu and put it on a USB like always but no I just get a lot of text output and then stdin: error 0
[09:35] <DrQ> gayness
[09:35] <rigved> mang0: the version which you have installed uses tcl8.4 . you do not need tcl 8.5 anymore. i'll explain
[09:35] <DrQ> what are you trying to boot
[09:35] <mang0> rigved: Okay, thanks :)
[09:35] <scarleo> DrQ: Ubuntu 11.04 x64
[09:35] <rigved> mang0: you have the source code for version 1.6.20, from which you are trying to run ./configure
[09:35] <DrQ> does he notice me
[09:35]  * DrQ naked
[09:36] <mang0> rigved: Correct.
[09:36] <rigved> mang0: you also have the same version (1.6.20) installed from the ppa.
[09:36] <DrQ> gehh
[09:36] <mang0> rigved: yes....
[09:36] <DrQ> kaland
[09:37] <rigved> mang0: so, as you can see, you do not need the source code any more. you can use the ppa version automatically now. just run the command: eggdrop -m <config-file>
[09:37] <rigved> mang0: where config-file is the default config file, for which i already gave you the url.
[09:38] <mang0> rigved: Okay thanks, heh, sorry for being so silly :3
[09:38] <rigved> mang0: here is the url for the config-file again: http://eggwiki.org/Eggdrop.conf
[09:38] <rigved> mang0: np :)
[09:38] <mang0> ;)
[09:38] <Gallo> !op
[09:38] <elky> Gallo, what are you calling us for?
[09:38] <Myrtti> Gallo: where is the emergency?
[09:38] <Gallo> !op "iwconfig wlan0 essid "<name_of_router>" key "<encryption_key>" gives me error for wireless request " Set Encode" (8ba2) can someone help with this ?
[09:39] <Myrtti> Gallo: that's not an emergency
[09:39] <Gallo> lol
[09:39] <elky> Gallo, you must not use the bot like that.
[09:39] <Gallo> srry
[09:39] <rigved> Gallo: that is only for channel related emergencies, like some bot not functioning properly etc.
[09:39] <ssk_the_gr8> do i need a live cd for running memtest or is it possible to run the memtest without it?
[09:40] <Gallo> k,
[09:41] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: if you have memtest installed, then you do not need the livecd. otherwise, the livecd can be used.
[09:41] <ersoy> hello, can iinstall ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook? (atom proccessor)
[09:42] <scarleo> ersoy: yes
[09:42] <rigved> ersoy: yes, just make sure that you install the 32-bit version, to be on the safe side.
[09:42] <Gallo> ok but really, can someone help me connect ubuntu to my wireless wep, I'm a noob but it can't be that difficult to do though....
[09:43] <michael_p> hi i have a question anyone know how to get a logictech webcam pro c910 to work in ubuntu
[09:45] <thotz> hello I'm looking for a new notebook: which notebook can you recommend for me. i want to have a nvidia graphics card.
[09:45] <cpfr> hey folks, it a fit of sheer stupidity i typed rm -r /usr/lib/python2.6
[09:45] <cpfr> is there a sane way to repair my system without total system reinstall
[09:46] <superos> cpfr: That one might be difficult. Python is an important part of Ubuntu. Maybe you can copy that directory from someone else?
[09:47] <ersoy> hello, can iinstall ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook? (atom proccessor)
[09:47] <cpfr> hmm
[09:47] <superos> ersoy: You have been told yes.
[09:48] <ersoy> download 11.04? I dont find 11.04 netbook version
[09:49] <superos> cpfr: You have tried sudo apt-get install python2.6 ?
[09:50] <cpfr> superos, doesn't help
[09:50] <cpfr> it can't find the os module
[09:50] <fm> he, i am running 10.10. when i start the login manager is for 20 seconds totally unresponsive, i cannot even mouse the mouse, but there is nothing on the CPU. anybody a pointer to a launchpad issue?
[09:51] <kentstaale> I am trying to run catalyst as super user, but I dont know where the path to the program is, or what command I should use. Anyone who knows?
[09:52] <Sk|p> hi
[09:52] <kilon> anyone has dual boot ubuntu in macbook air ?
[09:52] <Polah> cpfr: You could just try reinstallingg python2.6
[09:52] <Sebo> hi! Could you tell me how can I set up some program to run at tty console and to not require the user to sign in.
[09:52] <jiltdil> can someone tell me the channel for ATMega8
[09:53] <oCean> !alis | jiltdil
[09:53] <Polah> Sebo: You'll want to look at Upstart for that
[09:53] <Polah> !upstar | Sebo
[09:53] <Polah> !upstart | Sebo
[09:53] <superos> cpfr: Download from here http://pkgs.org/download/python2.6 and install with dpkg -i packagename
[09:53] <Sebo> Polah: I knowthat
[09:53] <scarleo> ersoy: there is no netbook version anymore, just go with standard Ubuntu, it's the same as former netbook
[09:53] <kilon> I love macos, but because i develop in python would like to try my python apps in ubuntu too , any tried dual boot a mac with ubuntu ?
[09:53] <cousteau> who's in charge of modifying the keyboard layouts?
[09:54] <Sebo> Polah: I had edited the /etc/init/tty4.conf
[09:54] <superos> kilon: Another option is VirtualBox or vmware?
[09:54] <Sebo> Polah: and changed the getty login command to that program - but that tdoe not work
[09:55] <ssk_the_gr8> rigved: memtest installed?
[09:55] <cpfr> superos, Polah is there a place i can pastebin the error?
[09:55] <rigved> ersoy: also, make sure that you use the 32-bit version to be on the safe side
[09:55] <Polah> cpfr: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <cousteau> in particular, the spanish one... there suddenly appeared lots of apparently useless circumflexed consonants I'm never going to use, and caused the removal of some symbols such as the copyright one
[09:55] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: do you have ubuntu installed?
[09:55] <ersoy> scarleo rigved thank you
[09:55] <cpfr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/686750/
[09:56] <kilon> superos: yeah i have tried vm with my imac, have ubuntu there too. But dont know how a good representative  a vm is for testing an app in a diffirent os
[09:56] <Polah> Sebo: Oh I see, you want the program to start up and post output automatically? Hmm, I imagine it would be possible, but I couldn't really help you do it I'm afraid.
[09:56] <ssk_the_gr8> rigved: yes.... i'm running ubuntu, its my only OS
[09:56] <kilon> since the vm offer partial support in many areas
[09:56] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: if yes, then you most probably also have memtest installed. just reboot. at the grub menu, select memtest.
[09:56] <ersoy> I'm trying now
[09:56] <mang0> kilon O.o
[09:57] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: you may have to hold down the Shift key to make the grub menu appear
[09:57] <Polah> cpfr: purge it and then do install again.
[09:57] <Sebo> Polah: I changed the tty4.conf into:
[09:57] <Sebo> exec /sbin/getty -8 -i -l "/usr/bin/ssh -i /home/sebo/smabiKey tato@EtchVBX" 38400 tty4
[09:57] <ssk_the_gr8> rigved: right after i power on the system? when it's showing dell splash screen?
[09:58] <cousteau> oh my god, now I know what happened... Apparently, "Spanish" distribution got mixed with "Esperanto" one... maybe something to do with "Esp" and "Esp"?
[09:58] <cousteau> OH MY GOD!! the problem turned out to be that I'm stupid!!
[09:58] <superos> cpfr: What about unpacking the python2.6 deb package and the copy all the files from it into the directory you deleted?
[09:59] <oCean> cousteau: please calm down
[09:59] <cpfr> superos, good idea
[09:59] <Sk|p> hi guys.. need some help.. i'm running ubuntu 11.04.. and tried to install Deluge Bit Torrent Client then as the installation continues i just prompted an error from the software-center which ask me to repair.. so i click it but still nothing happens.. it keeps on popping.. pls help.. tnx in advance..
[09:59] <Sk|p> here's the error log from the terminal
[09:59] <Sk|p> 2011-09-11 12:56:21,554 - softwarecenter.backend - WARNING - daemon dies, ignoring: <AptTransaction object at 0xa2454dc (aptdaemon+client+AptTransaction at 0x9dd1520)> exit-failed
[09:59] <Sk|p> 2011-09-11 12:56:23,083 - softwarecenter.backend - WARNING - _on_trans_error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[09:59] <Sk|p> 2011-09-11 12:56:23,626 - softwarecenter.backend - WARNING - daemon dies, ignoring: <AptTransaction object at 0xa2459b4 (aptdaemon+client+AptTransaction at 0x9feada0)> exit-failed
[09:59] <Sk|p> 2011-09-11 12:56:25,123 - softwarecenter.backend - WARNING - _on_trans_error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[09:59] <Sebo> Polah: And what I get is only 'login' promt at the tty - but no acctual connection to the given host
[09:59] <FloodBot1> Sk|p: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:59] <cousteau> oCean, sorry... I had just selected an option to add esperanto circumflexes, and forgot about that :(
[09:59] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: yes, when the dell splash screen is shown, keep the Shift key pressed for a few seconds.
[09:59] <Polah> Sk|p: Transmission comes with Ubuntu by default which can handle torrents, you know.
[10:00] <Sk|p> sorry for the flood..
[10:00] <ssk_the_gr8> rigved: thanx, i'll do a reboot and give it a try , i checked synaptic i have memtest86+ installed
[10:00] <Sk|p> Polah, yep but i wanted to use other client
[10:01] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: ok. all the best!
[10:01] <Sk|p> is there anything i can do to fix the problem :(
[10:01] <Polah> Sk|p: They both do the same thing you know.
[10:01] <rigved> Sk|p: it is just a warning. you can ignore it
[10:01] <ssk_the_gr8> rigved: one more thing, how do i stop the test?
[10:02] <ssk_the_gr8> Sk|p: have you tried searching online?
[10:02] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: i don't remember, but i think that there is a key to do that. it'll be shown on the memtest screen. or just reboot; it will not affect anything and you can run memtest again also.
[10:02] <ssk_the_gr8> u might just find the fix, if someone else faced the issue
[10:02] <ssk_the_gr8> thanx
[10:02] <superos> cpfr: Don't copy all the files, just the ones that should go into the dir you delted.
[10:02] <Sk|p> Polah, yep indeed.. but unfortunate when i tried to remove the Deluge it still didn't fix the problem..
[10:03] <Sk|p> ssk_the_gr8, yes and tried to issue "sudo apt-get install -f" but still failed
[10:03] <Polah> Sebo: Yeah, I can't really help you. I guess -l /usr/bin/ssh  would start it with an SSH prompt, try it with that without passing any arguments to ssh and then go forwards from there.
[10:04] <rigved> Sk|p: if you have closed the software center, then run this in the terminal: sudo dpkg-configure -a
[10:04] <Sebo> Polah: Ok - lets try :]
[10:05] <Sk|p> rigved, seems like i don't have dpkg-configured installed.. it says command not found
[10:05] <rigved> Sk|p: sudo dpkg-configure -a
[10:05] <rigved> Sk|p: it's not dpkg-donfigured
[10:05] <umbralfox> nick Mercutio
[10:06] <Element9> I can see I have both 4.4 and 4.5 version of gcc installed, but gcc --version says 4.4. How do I switch to 4.5?
[10:06] <rigved> Sk|p: there is no 'd' at the end of the word
[10:06] <Polah> rigved: Sk|p: Shouldn't that be dpkg --configure -a?
[10:07] <ssk_the_gr8> rigved:
[10:07] <ssk_the_gr8> hey
[10:07] <rigved> Polah: oh ya. sorry about that. thanks
[10:07] <rigved> Sk|p: ^^ what Polah said
[10:07] <Sk|p> oks will try again..
[10:07] <Sk|p> :)
[10:07] <ssk_the_gr8> rigved: i just ran the test it says ram settings as 2828 mhz (DDR565)
[10:07] <ssk_the_gr8> sorry 282 mhz
[10:08] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: hi.
[10:08] <ssk_the_gr8> what does this mean? what is the speed of my ram? i thought it was 800 mhz!
[10:08] <Sk|p> coolio.. fixed.. thanks guys! :)
[10:09] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: i have no clue. but yes, it should be atleast 800 MHz
[10:10] <ssk_the_gr8> rigved: i have DDR2 ram
[10:10] <Polah> ssk_the_gr8, What processor do you have?
[10:11] <ssk_the_gr8> Polah: amd athlon x2 tk-53
[10:13] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: i just googled it. it seems that everything is fine as it should be. - http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/327857
[10:13] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: i think that the max speed is 800 MHz, but it can run at slower speeds as per demand, i think. but i am just speculating here.
[10:15] <ssk_the_gr8> rigved: looks like my mother board supports only 533 mhz ram
[10:15] <ssk_the_gr8> i bought 800 mhz ram ... i should have checked before buying
[10:15] <panos> kaispera
[10:15] <ssk_the_gr8> so now it is running at a lower speed of 565 mhz
[10:15] <ssk_the_gr8> :(
[10:17] <Minkben> is there any problems with 64bit ubuntu? Also, what's the difference between netbook and normal ubuntu?
[10:17] <javier_> Hi. In Ubuntu 11.04 Evolution works normally with NetworkManager but doesnt detect internet connection under Wicd, which works much better for me. Any idea why this happens?
[10:17] <Gallo> hey can someone tell me how to install wicd_1.5.6_all.deb from a usb stick on ubuntu ?
[10:17] <iceroot> Gallo: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the/stick/file.deb or double-click the file
[10:17] <rigved> ssk_the_gr8: oh. ok.
[10:18] <iceroot> Gallo: but why not using the one from the repo?
[10:18] <Gredeu> here to go
[10:18] <Gallo> iceroot thnx bro
[10:18] <ssk_the_gr8> is ubuntu.com down?
[10:18] <Minkben> ssk_the_gr8, yes
[10:18] <michael_p> whats the next release of ubuntu
[10:18] <Minkben> 10.10
[10:18] <iceroot> ssk_the_gr8: yes
[10:18] <iceroot> Minkben: 11.10
[10:18] <iceroot> michael_p: 11.10
[10:19] <ssk_the_gr8> Why? whats up?
[10:19] <michael_p> is that still in beta mode
[10:19] <rigved> michael_p: yes. in beta 1
[10:19] <rigved> !11.10 | michael_p
[10:20] <javier_> this is exactly my problem with evolution: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69123
[10:23] <Gredeu> ready to work
[10:26] <SealedWithAKiss> What's wrong with? my $horse[$count] = <STDIN>;
[10:26] <Gallo> iceroot I get , there is no application installed for debian package files when I dbl click wicd_1.5.6_all.deb..missing something?
[10:27] <cpfr> superos, yep no luck
[10:30] <Gallo> how can i Install wicd_1.5.6_all.deb in ubuntu, it's a debian package file and ubuntu says no app is installed for it
[10:31] <Gallo> or is there another site to get wicd that can be used in ubuntu
[10:31] <Aquix> wicd is in the repos
[10:31] <Gallo> apt-get install says no
[10:32] <Aquix> aptitude seach say yes
[10:32] <Gallo> gallo = noob lol., help out with this please
[10:32] <glebihan> Gallo, you need to enable the universe repos
[10:32] <Gallo> how lol ?
[10:33] <glebihan> Gallo, from software sources, edit -> software sources, then check the "universe" checkbox
[10:33] <glebihan> Gallo, I meant from software manager
[10:34] <superos> cpfr: sudo aptitude reinstall python2.6
[10:35] <Gallo> access software manager from cmd line ?
[10:35] <cpfr> superos, python installs fine now but when i try to install python-apt or other systems essentials it doesnt seem to install them in /usr/lib/python2.6
[10:35] <superos> cpfr: What Ubuntu version?
[10:36] <cpfr> 10.10
[10:36] <glebihan> Gallo, you can access it without command-line, otherwise to access software sources directly from command-line, type "software-properties-gtk"
[10:36] <patrick> hmm
[10:37] <superos> cpfr: Isn't 2.7 the default in 10.10?
[10:37] <Guest67969> Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l  is my ubuntu version and i have 8GB memory, but my ubuntu says that i have only 2.9GB
[10:37] <Guest67969> BIOS says 8GB
[10:38] <cpfr> superos, nope 2.6 is this default for 10.10
[10:38] <diane> hey so i've been trying to get ubuntu to install on my macbook pro for awhile now, i ended up being completely unable to resize the partition so i just erased it (since i have a backuup) and created a new smaller partition, can i install ubuntu first or do i need to restore my mac osx partition first before installing ubuntu or does order not matter?
[10:38] <Gallo> glebihan, and whats the other way, ?
[10:38] <glebihan> Gallo, what do you mean "the other way" ? why does this one not suit you ?
[10:39] <Gallo> gleb, yes but learning this
[10:39] <glebihan> Guest67969, did you install 32bits or 64bits version ?
[10:39] <wildbat> diane: i suggest you get the OSX back up first . then ubuntu.
[10:39] <Guest67969> glebihan, i have 32-bit
[10:39] <glebihan> Gallo, well another way would be to manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:40] <glebihan> Guest67969, then that's the reason, 32 bits cannot handle that much memory
[10:40] <Gallo> thnx
[10:40] <Guest67969> glebihan,  ahaa :D thanks
[10:40] <Guest67969> so i have to install 64-bit version :)
[10:40] <superos> cpfr: apt-cache show python-apt  copy output to a pastebin please
[10:41] <Guest67969> glebihan,  thank yuou
[10:41] <Guest67969> you
[10:41] <Guest67969>  :D
[10:41] <fluido> Anyone using chrome 15.0.874.5 dev? Specifically this version.
[10:42] <glebihan> Guest67969,  you're welcome
[10:42] <cpfr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/686775/
[10:44] <fluido> Anyone using chrome 15.0.874.5 dev? Specifically this version. I'll like to confirm a weird bug, it'll very quick.
[10:45] <shelley> hi , having problems installing my new 2 TB sata drive
[10:45] <shelley> dual boot
[10:45] <shelley> i install w7, and then ubuntu 10.04 but it doesnt see w7 partition
[10:46] <shelley> i can mount w7 partition when i run ubuntu from cd
[10:50] <Gallo> glebihan, heh I didn't even have "software-properties-gtk" intalled, just now did that...am I gonna be able to use software sources even though I can get wlreless to connect ?
[10:50] <superos> cpfr: Sure it does not install into /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ ? Sorry for asking you again.
[10:51] <cpfr> superos, hmm it did
[10:51] <cpfr> its just not detecting in the other tools
[10:52] <Gallo> glebihan ?
[10:52] <glebihan> Gallo, if you don't have an internet connection, software properties will be useless
[10:53] <superos> cpfr: Tried dpgk --configure -a ?
[10:53] <cpfr> doesn't work
[10:53] <cpfr> i have used apt-get -f install afterwards as well
[10:53] <Guest49061> What command in terminal to install KDE desktop, NOT Kubuntu
[10:54] <Gallo> yeah, glebihan been trying to get this running for some time now, trying to get wicd for wireless set up....
[10:54] <Guest67969> glebihan, btw...hmm if i switch to 64-bit version does it now support adobe flash??... some time ago in my ubuntu when i had 64bit version flash didint work :/
[10:54] <Gallo> but now thats fuctured since I need to get online for it
[10:54] <glebihan> Guest67969, I'm using 64bits version and flash runs fine
[10:54] <superos> cpfr: apt-get clean, then configure and last force install is what I usually try. Too bad it not works in this case.
[10:55] <Guest67969> glebihan, ok :)
[10:56] <cpfr> superos, i think i might need to just burn a cd and reinstall over all this
[10:56] <Gallo> glebihan you think you can help set up wireless wep on ubuntu without using wicd ?
[10:56] <glebihan> Gallo, never used wicd, sorry
[10:56] <Guest49061> What is the command in Terminal to install KDE, NOT Kubuntu
[10:57] <superos> cpfr: Yes :-(
[10:57] <oCean> Guest49061: there's a metapackage called kubuntu-desktop, you can do  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <Gallo> well, I can't get it dwnloaded either and haven't used it but was reading a guide tht said tis would help set u wireless easier
[10:58] <Gallo> if you can help me set up with out i... would be awesome
[10:58] <Guest49061> 0cean: Many thanks
[10:59] <stretchmark> does anyone know an iptables to ip converter ?
[11:03] <minkben> my ubuntu installation freezes when it's done
[11:03] <minkben> I installed via wubi
[11:03] <minkben> it's just frozen, and I can't move my mouse pointer anymore
[11:04] <Gallo> can someone help me resolve wireless connection with ubuntu....please....tried everything
[11:04] <wildbat> minkben: alt+ctrl+f1
[11:04] <minkben> wildbat: then what?
[11:05] <minkben> wildbat: doesn't work
[11:05] <wildbat> !sysrq | minkben
[11:06] <th3pred4t0r> hai
[11:07] <superos> Gallo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[11:08] <oceantype> Is there any way to find out which key of the keyboard belongs to which number in the keymap?
[11:08] <Unknown17_> hello everyone
[11:08] <minkben> wildbat: thanks
[11:09] <drexlar> There is a bug in the installation program of the new LibreOffice 3.4.3. The bug is this:
[11:09] <Unknown17_> Is anyone out there interested in time travelling because i made a 100% method of it
[11:09] <drexlar> It is not possible to select a different drive (in Windows 7) different than C:
[11:09] <jrib> Unknown17_: no, this channel is for ubuntu support only.
[11:10] <Unknown17_> ok thanks for info :D
[11:10] <drexlar> ok, thank you. Bye.
[11:13] <oceantype> Is there any way to find out which key of the keyboard belongs to which number in the keymap?
[11:15] <Fuchs> oceantype: look in the other channel
[11:15] <Fuchs> I answered there
[11:18] <Spectre5> So I'm needing to reinstall ubuntu. Instead of backing up all my files to a disk or USB device could I partition a section of my HD off and store my files there? Then reinstall ubuntu and copy them back?
[11:20] <rigved> Spectre5: yes, you can do that if you want.
[11:20] <Spectre5> rigved could you tell me how?
[11:20] <oCean> Spectre5: it's always a good idea to make a backup when performing such operations. Having said that, yes - if you have a separate /home for example, you can choose not to format it
[11:20] <fm> Spectre5, look at gparted
[11:21] <rigved> Spectre5: ^^ what fm said.
[11:21] <Spectre5> Is it not possible to resinstall ubuntu but tell it not to remove my user in the home directory?
[11:21] <oCean> Spectre5: only if it's on separate filesystem
[11:21] <oCean> !home | Spectre5
[11:21] <rigved> Spectre5: you need to make sure that the partition which you are trying to split is not alreay mounted.
[11:21] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. I have an array that I cannot start. I think the best thing I can do is show you what I've been doing as I think it probably says it all. I've pastebinned it at: http://pastebin.com/ubU7bw1n
[11:22] <rigved> Spectre5: no. not unless you have a seperate /home partition. then you can tell ubuntu to not format that partition.
[11:23] <rigved> Spectre5: if your patition is already mounted, then use gparted from the LiveCD.
[11:23] <aeplus> may want to preserve uid mappings somehow
[11:25] <BenjamiX> sup'
[11:25] <BenjamiX> i am on karmic koala (9.10) do i have to upgrade to 10.04?
[11:26] <p01son> yes if you want to
[11:26] <oCean> BenjamiX: yes, it's end-of-life since last april
[11:26] <iophk> Hi, where is a current list of laptops that work well with Ubuntu, including wireless and other stuff?
[11:27] <BenjamiX> oCean, p01son, so, how can i keep this human theme on 10.04?
[11:27] <oCean> !hcl | iophk not sure if it's very comprehensive though
[11:28] <BenjamiX> and is it true that ubuntu will not use X ws anymore?
[11:28] <oCean> BenjamiX: I have no idea about themes, you could download a 10.04 image and try it as live-cd, see if you can enable that same theme again. Also, most recent version is 11.04
[11:29] <p01son> Benjamix : yes same as Ocean
[11:29] <SealedWithAKiss> I have installed Ubuntu and can no longer boot into Windows. What might have caused this?
[11:29] <BenjamiX> damn, ill just upgrade then LTS, and if the unity stays in ubuntu, im switching to mint or some thing else...
[11:30] <p01son> SealedWithAKis : your boot manager
[11:30] <BenjamiX> SealedWithAKiss your MBR
[11:30] <BenjamiX> or that :D
[11:30] <p01son> SealedWithAKis: ir maybe you did something  wrong in filesystem
[11:30] <SealedWithAKiss> BenjamiX, surely GRUB would create an entry for Windows, that points towards the MBR?
[11:30] <BenjamiX> my mistake
[11:31] <BenjamiX> i meant boot manager, not master boot record :D
[11:31] <Gredeu> thank you
[11:31] <BenjamiX> SealedWithAKiss, check gparted for filesystems
[11:31] <SealedWithAKiss> BenjamiX, well GRUB isn't displaying. Despite holding shift.
[11:31] <iophk> ubottu: is there a more up to date listing of supported laptops
[11:32] <p01son> <SealedWithAKiss: than you have deleted windows !
[11:32] <BenjamiX> same as p01son
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[11:33] <SealedWithAKiss> p01son, I think you'll find that you're mistaken. I'd have to be quite the retard to write the new OS to the existing Windows partition!
[11:33] <SealedWithAKiss> p01son, GRUB just hasn't created an entry.
[11:33] <BenjamiX> fix grub then
[11:34] <p01son> i don't think so !
[11:34] <BenjamiX> o.O
[11:34] <Onepamopa> anyone knows what can cause this: http://pastebin.com/t5bR1mbp
[11:34] <Onepamopa> ???
[11:35] <BenjamiX> Onepamopa, perhaps no root access?
[11:35] <Sidewinder1> SealedWithAKiss, Did you try sudo update-grub?
[11:35] <p01son> if you have installed win OS first than the linux one ,  using the option booting dual operating system than ....
[11:35] <Onepamopa> BenjamiX its not that
[11:35] <Atlantic777> Hi! I've just installed ubuntu 11.04 but max resulution is 640x480. Installed proprietary drivers but it says, „driver is installed but currently not in use“.
[11:35] <BenjamiX> Onepamopa, #
[11:35] <BenjamiX> #
[11:35] <BenjamiX> If are sure you want to downgrade to 5.1, remove the file
[11:35] <BenjamiX> #
[11:35] <BenjamiX> /var/lib/mysql/debian-*.flag and try installing again.
[11:35] <FloodBot1> BenjamiX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <Onepamopa> BenjamiX the problem is that I dont want to downgrade
[11:36] <Onepamopa> and Im not doing downgrade
[11:36] <Onepamopa> Im updating version 5.5 with newer 5.5 version
[11:36] <BenjamiX> Well remove then this file
[11:36] <Onepamopa> I had 5.1 3 months ago but I removed it and installed 5.5
[11:36] <BenjamiX> /var/lib/mysql/debian-*.flag
[11:36] <SealedWithAKiss> Sidewinder1, coincidently just before you mentioned it. Going down for a reboot now.
[11:36] <BenjamiX> remove this and then try the downgrade
[11:36] <Onepamopa> well, it says that if I remove it, it will "downgrade" ?
[11:36] <Onepamopa> BenjamiX I AM NOT DOING DOWNGRADE
[11:37] <Onepamopa> Im upgrading 5.5 with NEW version of 5.5
[11:37] <Sidewinder1> SealedWithAKiss, Good luck.
[11:37] <Onepamopa> 5.1 was removed 3 months ago
[11:37] <BenjamiX> Onepamopa, sorry my mistake, read it wrong
[11:37] <Onepamopa> so, what has to be done now .....
[11:37] <Onepamopa> in order for the upgrade to succeed ..
[11:37] <ech0> ls
[11:38] <Onepamopa> anyone?
[11:39] <p01son> well it seams that you hate to google it :D
[11:41] <Onepamopa> p01son didnt find anything I havent done already
[11:41] <Onepamopa> so, here I am
[11:42] <heisenberg> how do I install and use unity on 10.04?
[11:42] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. I have an array that I cannot start. I think the best thing I can do is show you what I've been doing as I think it probably says it all. I've pastebinned it at: http://pastebin.com/ubU7bw1n
[11:42] <Sidewinder1> Onepamopa, I can't help you, sorry; I guess you've searched ubuntuforums.org?
[11:43] <Onepamopa> Sidewinder1 Ive searched google
[11:43] <Onepamopa> that includes ubuntuforums
[11:43] <Onepamopa> idf you know something I dont, link it here
[11:43] <Sidewinder1> :-(
[11:44] <Sidewinder1> Nah, just a suggestion, lame as it was. :-)
[11:44] <Onepamopa> not saying that it's lame
[11:44] <Ellipsis753> Can I have a cross shaped desktop layout? 3 high, 3 wide? But with only 6 desktops in total?
[11:45] <Onepamopa> its just that IM in a hurry, 3000 users wait for me ...
[11:45] <heisenberg> I have ubuntu 11.04 and unity isn't installed. How do I get it?
[11:45] <Sidewinder1> Onepamopa, No, I know you weren't; I just wish I had a better suggestion.
[11:46] <p01son> heisenberg:well use package manager
[11:46] <zHammeRz> ComradeHaz`, it says assembled from 6 drives and 1 rebuilding...what is rebuilding?
[11:47] <Onlyodin> heisenberg, isn't installed, or not available because you don't meet the "hardware requirements"?
[11:48] <qin> heisenberg: found this: http://digitizor.com/2010/05/10/how-to-install-unity-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[11:48] <Ellipsis753> Can I set ubuntu up so that The same desktop is always above your current desktop and the same desktop is always to the left of it. So regardless what desktop your on ctl+alt+left should always take you to the "left" desktop.
[11:48] <asdjaputra> left most?
[11:48] <heisenberg> Onlyodin: not installed, but I installed "ubuntu-netbook" package now, gonna see if I can choose unity session now
[11:49] <asdjaputra> nvm
[11:49] <lighta> Onepamopa, what does dpkg -l | grep percona say ?
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:52] <oCean> Onepamopa: mysql-server is 5.1 in lucid in the official repositories. Percona is some 3rd party software?
[11:52] <p01son> <lighta: it's the list of .deb files . then you grep percona program
[11:52] <nanicoar> hey'yall
[11:53] <nanicoar> Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F6 doesn't open a tty terminal for me anymore
[11:53] <nanicoar> I just get a message about my HDD.
[11:53] <nanicoar> I'm using Natty. Any clues one what to do?
[11:54] <lighta> p01son, wasn't for me... just refer for Onepamopa issue : anyone knows what can cause this: http://pastebin.com/t5bR1mbp
[11:54] <p01son> upss
[11:56] <iophk> How can I find laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed?  The Ubuntu site seems to say that Dell sells them. http://www.ubuntu.com/dell, but the Dell site does not seem to offer Ubuntu
[11:57] <Lasseman> hey, I need help to get my matlab started, i have it installed but when I want to run it by type "matlab" in the terminal it doesnt start:(
[11:57] <Polah> iophk: I believe Lenovo sells some models with some forms of Linux available, or they used to at least.
[11:57] <jrib> !matlab | Lasseman
[11:58] <fluido> Anyone using Chrome browser 15.0.874.5 dev? this version specifically.
[11:58] <Lasseman> thx
[11:58] <glebihan> iophk, http://www.ubuntu.com/dell
[11:58] <fluido> I just want someone to reproduce/confirm a bug, it'll take 2 seconds.
[11:59] <iophk> glebihan: right, but that goes to the Dell page with then only shows legacy systems no Ubuntu
[12:00] <Lasseman> Okey, i think i know what i did wrong, i didnt install it in /usr/local/MATLAB, if i change that and creat a symbolic should it work?
[12:00] <iophk> a white box laptop or notebook would be good, too, but I am looking ideally for Ubuntu pre-installed
[12:01] <shaunlewis> Lasseman, you will need to have the matlab executable/script in your PATH
[12:01] <p01son> iophk: why do you need ubuntu pre-installed laptop !
[12:01] <Polah> p01son: To use it would be the obvious answer.
[12:01] <p01son> <Polah: wow , you are so smart
[12:02]  * JiMbo_dR4ke pats  on the shoulders 
[12:02] <Lasseman> hm, okey, how do i get the executable/script?
[12:02] <p01son> <Polah: i mean you can install afeter buying the lap
[12:02] <Polah> p01son: Ask silly questions, get silly answers (: Getting it pre-installed saves time.
[12:02] <glebihan> iophk, you're right, looks like they don't sell models with ubuntu anymore (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2366953,00.asp)
[12:02] <p01son> <Polah: you are so smart you should work in NASA
[12:03] <Polah> p01son: Now, no need to be sarcastic (:
[12:03] <shaunlewis> Lasseman, creating the symlink might work, but'll have to go in a directory in your PATH, like /usr/local/bin, rather than /usr.
[12:03] <p01son> <Polah: ok ok just kidding
[12:03] <ServerTech|Lapto> Even on second try, the dang installer does not continue after 5% during select and install software, even though i never really did select any software?:/ Ubuntu 11.04 Server.
[12:04] <Polah> p01son: I could actually work at NASA considering I'm going to study aeronautical engineering :D Anyway, time to get back on topic
[12:04] <shaunlewis> "/ local/MATLAB" *
[12:04] <Justus> hi, I'm using wubi to install ubuntu parallel to win7, now the installer finished allright told me to restart, so I restart and select ubuntu from the windows boot loader, but all that happens is an error message by ubuntu about a missing root directory and a initramfs shell...
[12:04] <Justus> any ideas how to fix this?
[12:04] <xircx> good morning
[12:04] <p01son> <Polah: woow we have a NASA scientist in ubuntu channel
[12:05] <xircx> o.O
[12:05] <ServerTech> Help : Even on second try, the dang installer does not continue after 5% during select and install software, even though i never really did select any software?:/ Ubuntu 11.04 Server.
[12:05] <Lasseman> ok... hm
[12:05] <shaunlewis> Lasseman, although the instructions jrib requested for you make reference to an actual MATLAB launcher, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[12:05] <shaunlewis> Lasseman, where did you install MATLAB to?
[12:06] <asdfsdfdfsdf> hi
[12:06] <wildbat> Justus: uninstall it ~ and do a real install :) wubi tend to have issues.
[12:06] <asdfsdfdfsdf> i am using ubuntu 8.10 right now
[12:06] <heisenberg> a deb package says: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0)" but I can't find libgdk
[12:06] <asdfsdfdfsdf> wanted to upgrade to 9.04
[12:06] <Polah> iophk: There's some smaller companies that do, if you search around for them on Google
[12:06] <wildbat> !eol|asdfsdfdfsdf:
[12:06] <asdfsdfdfsdf> ok what is not eol
[12:06] <asdfsdfdfsdf> 9.10 ???????????ßß
[12:07] <uoou> I think you may be being a little silly
[12:07] <Gredeu> i'm curious as to why people stay with older version when newer ones have more features and are perhaps slightly more demanding resource wise ?
[12:07] <Lasseman> i installed it to another partiton on my harddrive
[12:07] <asdfsdfdfsdf> !ops |uoou
[12:07] <asdfsdfdfsdf> !
[12:07] <oCean> asdfsdfdfsdf: stop that immediately
[12:07] <Polah> Justus: Agree with wildbat. Wubi is rather for trying Ubuntu without having to repartition and suchlike, it's not really intended for proper working installations.
[12:07] <asdfsdfdfsdf> ocean he said i am supid
[12:07] <ServerTech> Help : Even on second try, the dang installer does not continue after 5% during select and install software, even though i never really did select any software?:/ Ubuntu 11.04 Server.
[12:07] <uoou> silly, not 'supid'
[12:07] <uoou> vast difference
[12:08] <oCean> asdfsdfdfsdf: even so, you know you should join ubuntu-ops to report these things
[12:08] <Polah> Gredeu: Stability for hardware and software I'd expect, sometimes security benefits or some new features outweigh the risks of system failure due to some drivers no longer functioning or something to that effect. Although that's why we have LTS releases
[12:08] <ServerTech> anyone?
[12:08] <heisenberg> why can't I find the gdk-pixbuf package in my default sources? the package seems to be in the ubuntu repo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/natty/gdk-pixbuf
[12:09] <Gredeu> Polah, some older versions are more secure than newer ones ?
[12:09] <Gredeu> got it
[12:09] <iophk> Polah: I
[12:09] <Polah> Gredeu: No, newer releases should typically be more secure, as security updates would be released and as older releases reach eol those security updates are no longer available for them.
[12:10] <iophk> Polah: I've been searching.  Are there any specifics that you know of with Ubuntu (or any other linux) pre-installed?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> ServerTech, try the alternate install
[12:10] <Polah> Gredeu: What I actually meant to say was that sometimes the risk of failure outweighs the possible benefits of security updates or new features, I got my sentence the wrong way round (:
[12:10] <Gredeu> thank you Polah
[12:10] <BluesKaj> !alternate | ServerTech
[12:10] <glebihan> heisenberg, this is a source package, there is no binary package with that name
[12:10] <Polah> heisenberg, that's the source package.
[12:11] <heisenberg> then how do I get the package?
[12:11] <Polah> iophk: A search for "laptops with ubuntu preinstalled" gives me http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/09/7-providers-of-pre-installed-linux.html and http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/05/10-ubuntu-1104-pre-installed-laptops.html among other links
[12:11] <glebihan> heisenberg, what do you need exactly ?
[12:12] <heisenberg> glebihan: trying to install clementine from .deb file, says I need libgdk-pixbuf
[12:12] <Polah> heisenberg: sudo apt-get source gdk-pixbuf and then configure/build/install it
[12:12] <ComradeHaz`> Sorry hammerz, it was reshaping from RAID 5 to 6 (drive added) when a drive failed. Now I need to remove the partially rebuilt spare to start the array, but I do not know how to issue commands to an array that's not running.
[12:12] <rokra> I have an error /usr/bin/ldconfig: 1: libc-bin: not found , by mistake and I m not able to install package now , any ideas?
[12:12] <iophk> Don't Acer and Asus have Linux, too?  I've found the ZaReason and System76 units.
[12:12] <glebihan> heisenberg, then  install libgdk-pixbuf not gdk-pixbuf (I believe the exact package name is libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0)
[12:13] <Polah> iophk: I think some of those companies that offer Linux preinstalled on laptops are resellers for larger companies, and they just verify Linux works, install it and then resell it.
[12:13] <ServerTech> Help : Even on second try, the dang installer does not continue after 5% during select and install software, even though i never really did select any software?:/ Ubuntu 11.04 Server.
[12:14] <Polah> Does Ubuntu One conflict with Dropbox? I have both set to sync the same directory through symlinks. Dropbox syncs fine, but Ubuntu One claims to but doesn't actually move or store any of the files in the directory.
[12:15] <glebihan> heisenberg, btw why don't you install clementine from the repos ?
[12:15] <wildbat> ServerTech: checked the CD for error yet? or the iso with md5sum ?
[12:15] <Polah> ServerTech, have you verified your ISO and CD?
[12:15] <Gredeu> clementine is a nicer player
[12:15] <ServerTech> Polah : yep i have.
[12:15] <Gredeu> oops nice
[12:15] <ServerTech> wildbat: yes.
[12:16] <heisenberg> glebihan: did. thanks
[12:16] <glebihan> heisenberg, you're welcome
[12:16] <Polah> ServerTech, are you using CD or USB?
[12:16] <ServerTech> Polah: CD.
[12:17] <Polah> ServerTech, ah, nevermind then. There's apparently some issues with installing the Server from USB.
[12:18] <ServerTech> Polah: well so any idea what im supposed to do with this? like try making another disc and installing?
[12:19] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[12:19] <uoou> does the boot menu have a thing for verufying the CD?
[12:19] <wildbat> ServerTech: hmmm ~ do a memtest then.
[12:19] <heisenberg> In windows, I can set my VGA screen to 1680x1200 (or something like that, don't remember exactly), but in ubuntu I can set it to max 1280x768. How can I increase the limit? I have prop. drivers activated
[12:20] <SpaceBass> using mhddfs (like Unionfs) to create a fuse file system spanning several physical drives. One drive failed to mount and now I have files in the mount path on the boot drive. I can move them elsewhere, but whats the best way to merge them back into the mhddfs structure? rsync?
[12:20] <Sidewinder1> uoou, It should, yes.
[12:21] <ServerTech> wildbat: well.. i dont really think its a mem problem though.
[12:21] <uoou> I recommend that then. And writing a new CD on the slowest speed your drive can manage. That kinda thing always tends to be a wonky CD for me (but I am no expert)
[12:22] <wildbat> ServerTech: alt+ f1-6 to get in other shell , see if you can put the logs and fing something then.
[12:23] <Polah> ServerTech, just because you don't think it's the memory doesn't mean it isn't. Give it a test and find out, I believe there's memtest included with the ISO
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> uoou, Md5sum should be used on the ISO, prior to burning aslowest...
[12:24] <catphish_> is there any chance of a major firefox upgrade in 10.04?
[12:24] <uoou> aye, that too
[12:24] <catphish_> a lot of users are still using firefox 3
[12:25] <ServerTech> Polah, wildbat: started the mem test.
[12:26] <Polah> catphish_, 10.04 is still FF3 unless it's changed, the same with 10.10. There are minor updates to it though
[12:26] <catphish_> i know, that's why i asked if there was any chance of it being upgraded
[12:26] <catphish_> i realise major version bumps are uncommon
[12:27] <catphish_> but with firefox's progress it seems necessary
[12:31] <FxIII> hi all
[12:31] <wildbat> catphish_: there are ppa for firefox
[12:32] <FxIII> I'm desperate: my ISP ppp is buggy (...) and it becomes mad because i ask him for a ms-dns and ms-wins. is there any way to avoid pppd to ask for such amenities?
[12:32] <sitaktif> beh it was not a good idea to play with my window manager during an Ubuntu upgrade :)
[12:32] <oCean> catphish_: there are FF stable PPA's For example ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable providing FF6 for lucid
[12:33] <ubuntu_> siema
[12:33] <catphish_> wildbat: yeah, probably best to use those for my org, i was more concerned about web devs having to continue to support html4 because of it
[12:33] <oCean> !pl | ubuntu_
[12:33] <catphish_> thanks oCean, i'll def use that ppa myself
[12:34] <catphish_> is there no chance of that making it into the main repos though?
[12:35] <catphish_> or do mozilla still actively support ff3?
[12:35] <wildbat> don'
[12:35] <wildbat> don't think so ~ no update for a year or so .
[12:36] <mohamed02> hi
[12:36] <catphish_> well the ppa works well for me, thanks
[12:44] <work> есть живые ? совет нужен
[12:44] <IdleOne> !ru
[12:45] <FxIII> any idea about how to tell pppd to not ask for ms-dns and ms-wins
[12:48] <p01son> FxIII:  you want it to start automatically ?
[12:48] <Atlantic777> On random basis I can't boot up the Ubuntu 11.04. I have vertical black/white stripes after GRUB and before plymouth. It's not due to hardware, the „other“ OS works well.
[12:48] <Atlantic777> After few reboots all is ok.
[12:49] <FxIII> p01son: i did a script on boot that check for the presence of the usbmodem an then calls pon
[12:49] <Atlantic777> I havn't mentioned that before, and it becomes annoying... Where to start looking for a problem?
[12:49] <FxIII> p01son: so I can do whenever is needed before and after the pppd start
[12:50] <p01son> FxIII: aha !
[12:50] <zykotick9> Atlantic777, it does "sound" like a hardware issue.  Sorry no suggestions.
[12:50] <Atlantic777> auch...
[12:51] <p01son> FxIII: did you write in sh script
[12:52] <FxIII> p01son: in a python script but the pon call use the bash
[12:52] <FxIII> p01son: is this a problem?
[12:54] <dagon666> does something changed with the i915 driver between ubuntu 10.10 and xubuntu 11.04 ? I get 1500fps in glxgears with the old release and only 300 with the new xubuntu. Or maybe xubuntu uses completely different versions of X and gfx drivers ?
[12:55] <ikonia> dagon666: try with "intel" driver
[12:55] <julie101010> does anyone have any clues why my screen does not refresh when I close a window on 11.04...  it was the same with previous versions...  since this bug is so annoying, I have to suppose it doesn't affect everyone...  using a Acer notebook
[12:56] <dagon666> ikonia: I do not define any driver in xorg.conf - everything gets loaded automatically, I only see that kernel module i915 and all dependencies are loaded and "intel" driver has been selected in Xorg logs
[12:56] <uoou> what do you mean, screen does not refresh, julie101010 ?
[12:56] <ikonia> dagon666: kernel module is not an xorg driver
[12:56] <dagon666> wondering why such a loss of performance
[12:56] <FxIII> p01son: any idea?
[12:57] <zykotick9> julie101010, is this a physical install, or are you running in VirtualBox?
[12:57] <julie101010> uoou, if I open a small window (program) over another one and then close it with the X, its image stays on top of the other program until I play with the window like minimize/maximize
[12:57] <ikonia> dagon666: I'm wondering if it's not actually loading the intel driver, try forcing the i810 driver, and then forcing the intel driver, see if there is anything different
[12:57] <uoou> that does sound annoying
[12:57] <uoou> is this with the open drivers or proprietary?
[12:58] <uoou> also, do you know what graphics card/chip you have?
[12:58] <julie101010> uoou, didn't install any proprietary drivers
[12:58] <julie101010> intel
[12:58] <dagon666> ikonia: I dont think that my intel 8245G is supported by i810
[12:58] <x3qt0r> How do I install motif and/or athena
[12:58] <ikonia> dagon666: it's worth trying it to see if/how it falls back and comparing the logs
[12:58] <uoou> ahh ok, I believe there's no proprietary drivers for intel
[12:58] <uoou> this is a laptop?
[12:59] <dagon666> its an old dell gx260
[12:59] <julie101010> yep, notebook
[12:59] <dagon666> heh, two separate very similar threads going on :)
[13:00] <uoou> and this is only when closing windows? (i.e. doesn't happen when brining windows in front of other windows etc.?)
[13:00] <julie101010> interesting!
[13:00] <julie101010> uoou, it actually happens in a few other cases, the display simply does not refresh properly
[13:01] <x3qt0r> =/
[13:01] <dagon666> join #perl
[13:02] <julie101010> while searching for this problem I found a thread on a forum that mentioned the Intel driver was responsible but there was no solution proposed there
[13:03] <zykotick9> julie101010, i get a very similar issue when running compiz inside VBox, do you know if you disable compiz does the issue still happen?
[13:03] <julie101010> sorry, I don't know compiz...  where do I check if I use it?
[13:04] <uoou> I *think* (someone may correct me) that if you set 'none' on 'visual effects' in 'appearance settings' it will stop using compiz
[13:05] <julie101010> mmm, let me check my settings
[13:05] <uoou> System->Preferences->Appearance
[13:05] <davro> system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects "select none"
[13:05] <uoou> like I say, I may be talking rubbish about that
[13:06] <uoou> seems I'm not! amazing
[13:06] <julie101010> it's worth a try
[13:06] <julie101010> hold on
[13:06] <sunil> how to use webcam on yahoo messenger
[13:06] <sunil> ?
[13:06] <ServerTech> I made it work:) ty for your suggestions though Polah and wildbat.
[13:07] <OnkelTem> HI all. My Software Center on 10.10 is empty. Why this could happen?
[13:07] <wildbat> ServerTech: what happened thou ?
[13:07] <sunil> how to use webcam on pidgin?
[13:08] <sunil> how to use webcam on pidgin?
[13:08] <IdleOne> !repeat
[13:09] <ServerTech> wildbat: apparently i did not use the cd check on the iso, i was checking about the verification during cd burning, and also, i found a few ram errors, which weren't that serious and the installation would have still worked. Well apparently i added two extra ram sticks yesterday, which seem to have a frequency different than my two main ram sticks. I removed two and made a new disc, works like
[13:09] <ServerTech> magic.
[13:09] <saganbyte> is it possible to run tascam us 144 or behringer xenyx1204 USB audio interface under Ubuntu somehow
[13:09] <mohamed02> hi
[13:10] <ace> hello. I have a problem with my hp probook touch pad. It fails to right click and some solutions I have found on the web that actuall help end up disabling edge scrolling. is there a solution here?
[13:10] <linusoleander> Anyone knows how to pass ForwardAgent=true when using ssh?
[13:10] <julie101010> uoou, davro: can't find an option to disable visual effects in the appearance program
[13:11] <uoou> you don't see something like this: http://www.techotopia.com/images/4/4a/Ubuntu_visual_effects_settings.jpg ?
[13:11] <wildbat> ServerTech: i see, ^^ grats it work now :>
[13:12] <ace> SECOND PROBLEM: my ubuntu wireless led stopped working. How do I re-enable it?
[13:12] <ServerTech> wildbat : ty:) btw im using like a wireless keyboard so idk if my caps is on.. and i have to enter passwords for the installation you know.. is there any way i can know if caps is on? cause i apparently touched the caps lock by mistake, and this wireless keyboard doesnt have lights to show it.
[13:12] <julie101010> uoou, only have 3 tabs: theme, background and fonts
[13:13] <uoou> hmm
[13:13] <julie101010> ikonia, would you happen to know a way to disable compiz to see if that resolves my problem?
[13:14] <wildbat> SeverTech, i think there are some panel applet / screenlet that show that .but i don't on top my head now.
[13:14] <ServerTech> wildbat: im in the installation process, so i doubt it.
[13:15] <uoou> julie101010, you in gnome/Unity?
[13:16] <wildbat> ServerTech: hmmm right you are server edition , just test it out in some terminal before entering :<
[13:17] <ace> SECOND PROBLEM: my ubuntu wireless led stopped working. How do I re-enable it?
[13:17] <ace> hello. I have a problem with my hp probook touch pad. It fails to right click and some solutions I have found on the web that actuall help end up disabling edge scrolling. is there a solution here?
[13:17] <julie101010> uoou, don't know...  just using the default interface on 11.04
[13:17] <uoou> ok, apparently opening a terminal and doing: metacity --replace
[13:17] <julie101010> let me try that
[13:17] <uoou> will switch compiz off (but I'm not convinced it's running)
[13:17] <uoou> but yeah, shouldn't do any harm
[13:18] <zykotick9> uoou, careful with that that's for Gnome, not Unity I believe.  julie101010
[13:18] <julie101010> I'm not worried :)
[13:18] <julie101010> mm
[13:18] <uoou> oh, unity has to use compiz?
[13:18] <ServerTech> wildbat: true:) well its postgresql so it doesnt matter that much
[13:18] <zykotick9> uoou, i think so
[13:18] <uoou> sorry julie101010, I didn't know that
[13:19] <OnkelTem> What software can I use to create system backup?
[13:19] <rigved> i thought that unity in 11.04 uses metacity. in 11.10, unity uses compiz.
[13:19] <uoou> just out of interest, try: ps ax | grep compiz
[13:19] <uoou> to see if it is running
[13:19] <rigved> !info deja-dup | OnkelTem
[13:19] <Guest68971> Hey folks, do I have to do anything with network-manager for wicd to work, had it working and connecting fine, now it tells me bad password even though I know it's the correct password ?
[13:19]  * Sk|p brb
[13:20] <Guest68971> anyone ?
[13:21] <uoou> julie101010, does this (the bit under "windows don't update") describe your problem? http://wiki.compiz.org/Troubleshooting#Windows_Don.27t_Update
[13:21] <OnkelTem> rigved: thank you. There are tons of backup software, have no time to try them all :)
[13:22] <rigved> OnkelTem: deja-dup is good. it is now the default backup program from 11.10 onwards.
[13:22] <OnkelTem> rigved: what I really need - is to backup /var/www and all the databases. Hope this utility will help
[13:22] <Peste_Bubonica> hi all
[13:23] <rigved> OnkelTem: yes. you can do that. it is a GUI program. if you want to do this on a server, then use duplicity.
[13:23] <julie_> uoou, it does look quite similar if not the same
[13:23] <Peste_Bubonica> someone could indicate some doc of how to build the usb install stick of ubunto from another distro?
[13:23] <Peste_Bubonica> I dont have windows on  my computer now, and I dont have ubuntu installed here...
[13:23] <Peste_Bubonica> so, I want to use my distro to build the usb stick
[13:24] <IdleOne> Peste_Bubonica: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[13:24] <irvken> my new wifi connection says it's connected to my access point but I can't surf or ping the network (unreachable)
[13:24] <irvken> where can I start to t/s this?
[13:24] <julie_> where is the default xorg.conf so I can change it?
[13:25] <zykotick9> julie_, it's not there by default, xorg.conf has to be created
[13:25] <Peste_Bubonica> IdleOne, cool.. Gentoo haves a ebuild for it.. many thanks
[13:25] <julie_> zykotick9, would you mind saving me a 15 minute search and tell me how?
[13:25] <Peste_Bubonica> IdleOne, the ISO haves only 699Mb. I can use a 1GB Pendrive?
[13:26] <IdleOne> Peste_Bubonica: welcome, any further support with unetbootin on gentoo should be asked in #gentoo
[13:26] <new2net> Where can I find the flatfile (I would think) containing the rules for iptables in Natty?
[13:26] <IdleOne> Peste_Bubonica: 2GB minimum I believe
[13:26] <uoou> ok, julie101010 I guess that solution is worth a shot then
[13:26] <Peste_Bubonica> ok...
[13:27] <uoou> do you know how to edit xorg.conf?
[13:27] <dominicdinada> how to remove old kernals ?
[13:27] <dominicdinada> all but the most current and last one
[13:27] <julie_> uoou, yes but I don't know how to generate it by hearth
[13:27] <democrezy> i am a new user .I install some updates from update manager in ubuntu 11.04 then software centre got disabled and also update manager was not responding.When i restarted ubuntu, keyboard was not detected and i had to reconnect keyboard cable.Then i reinstall ubuntu. Can anybody explain me what was the problem?
[13:27] <zykotick9> julie_, stollen from #debian's "xorg conf squeeze" but may apply:  use "X -configure" ("X -configure :1" if server is already active)
[13:28] <uoou> well that's interesting, two Julies both editing xorg.confs
[13:28] <dominicdinada> errrr how do i remove old kernels on a headless unit moreso
[13:28] <uoou> oh, same one
[13:28] <uoou> :(
[13:29] <zykotick9> dominicdinada, "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" then uninstall the ones you don't want.
[13:29] <dominicdinada> hmmm
[13:29] <dominicdinada> zykotick9: ty ill try
[13:30] <dominicdinada> ok second question i have a new server i am throwing together the bios doesnt support boot from usb img just usb-fdd usb-hdd etc
[13:30] <julie_> zykotick9, got a fatal error trying X -configure
[13:30] <dominicdinada> and it wont take the live usb ? how to install without cd,dvd drives
[13:30] <zykotick9> julie_, if Xorg is running use the "X -configure :1"
[13:30] <shaunlewis> julie_: As far as I know, sudo Xorg -configure will work better on Ubuntu. Make sure the X is capitalised
[13:31] <julie_> zykotick9, did that... will try shaunlewis' alternative
[13:31] <zykotick9> julie_, they should be the same - you probably have to use sudo
[13:32] <dominicdinada> http://pastebin.com/RqxnsjVA hmmmmm 10 kernels :/
[13:33] <zykotick9> dominicdinada, that's a lot of kernels ;)  I'd recommend you keep 2 at all times: current and one backup known good.
[13:33] <dominicdinada> zykotick9: ya i said i wanted to keep 2
[13:34] <dominicdinada> but umm.... i never flushed old kernels on updates
[13:34] <julie_> gees, both Xorg and X fail to consider the display set (even set manually to :1)
[13:34] <uoou> julie_, try it this way: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8382188&postcount=4
[13:35] <uoou> wait, no, don't
[13:35] <uoou> gdm
[13:35] <uoou> gah
[13:35] <Guest68971> Hey folks, do I have to do anything with network-manager for wicd to work, had it working and connecting fine, now it tells me bad password even though I know it's the correct password ?
[13:35] <zykotick9> julie_, FYI "sudo service gdm stop" will log you out of your GUI!!!
[13:36] <zykotick9> Guest68971, if "it" (whatever it is) says "bad password" it's most likely a bad password.
[13:37] <BiKER-JENS> damn.. it
[13:37] <Guest68971> I know it's right though.....it was working fine then started telling me that
[13:37] <BiKER-JENS> I had LAMP from today
[13:38] <democrezy> i am a new user .I install some updates from update manager in ubuntu 11.04 then software centre got disabled and also update manager was not responding.When i restarted ubuntu, keyboard was not detected and i had to reconnect keyboard cable.Then i reinstall ubuntu. Can anybody explain me what was the problem?
[13:38] <zykotick9> Guest68971, could it be connecting to the wrong network then?  That would give bad pass as well.
[13:38] <saquib> hi all ;)
[13:39] <Guest68971> not sure, noob at this....how can i check, don't see how though there's only one available, I rural here
[13:39] <zykotick9> Guest68971, if you only see one wireless network, it's not connecting to the wrong one then.
[13:40] <zykotick9> Guest68971, why did you switch to wicd?
[13:40] <Guest68971> yeah, figured...but what else could be messing wicd up?
[13:41] <Guest68971> do i need to apt-get remove network-manager?
[13:42] <IdleOne> having both installed would conflict and possibly cause issues
[13:42] <Guest68971> because i couldn't connest ubuntu any other way
[13:42] <Guest68971> was getting errors
[13:42] <IdleOne> can you connect to your wifi with network manager?
[13:42] <Guest68971> tried all kinds of guides
[13:43] <Guest68971> could connect at all b4
[13:43] <IdleOne> how are you connected now? wired?
[13:44] <Guest68971> so i got wicd and installed, work fine for a bit then it got fuctured, dunno if i did something wrong
[13:44] <Guest68971> no
[13:44] <Guest68971> was doing cmd iwconfig wlan0 essid "<name_of_router>" key "<encryption_key>"
[13:45] <Guest68971> but was getting error
[13:46] <Guest68971> any ideas what's up with wicd, or wireless set up ?
[13:47] <ixxu> Guest68971, did you choose the right encryption for your wireless ?
[13:47] <steve> hi all
[13:47] <Antrax2000> :D
[13:48] <Guest68971> check it 10 times, like I said it was conectig fine evnwas able t finaly d apt-get update
[13:48] <steve> I just set up natty inside a Xen domU, it boots fine but doesn't show any info relating to starting services - but they DO start - is it normal for it to be so quiet?
[13:48] <steve> it pretty much goes straight to the console
[13:49] <democrezy> How can i enhance visual effects in ubuntu 11.04
[13:49] <zykotick9> steve, Ubuntu tried to hide all the boot process - you can try remove "quiet splash" from your kernel boot config, in /etc/default/grub, then run "sudo update-grub2" to apply any changes
[13:50] <steve> zykotick9: i'm not using any bootloader
[13:50] <Guest68971> only thing i tried was  staticweb.sh cmd ...something I read in a guide that I wrote and it auto connects and pings google to verify lol
[13:50] <zykotick9> steve, i have no idea then, good luck.
[13:51] <glebihan> steve, someway you are, you do have something in the mbr that's launching your OS and passing the options to the kernel
[13:51] <steve> glebihan: this is a xen domU, not a baremetal server
[13:52] <Djmaster329> Hello
[13:53] <Djmaster329> I burned Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop to a DVD and installed it at on of my computers.
[13:53] <Djmaster329> works great but
[13:53] <Djmaster329> My notebook has a broken screen/video card
[13:53] <Djmaster329> when I boot the disc it only shows a black screen
[13:54] <democrezy> djmaster329, are u a new user?
[13:54] <Djmaster329> not really, I also used 9.04
[13:55] <Djmaster329> and I also have 9.04 in a virtual machine
[13:56] <Ptitrist> Where can i found a french server please ?
[13:56] <zykotick9> !fr | Ptitrist if you mean IRC
[13:57] <Ptitrist> Thanks
[13:58] <democrezy> djmaster r u satisfied with ubuntu? is it eazy to use? i m a new user and i m suffering a lot
[13:58] <Ptitrist> It's very easy ubuntu
[13:58] <Djmaster329> Yes, I really love Ubuntu.
[13:59] <Djmaster329> It's way better than Windows
[13:59] <francesco_> Someone can help me with kdenlive from the latest svn trunk? It crashes when i try to add a clip. Please reply. Thanks
[13:59] <democrezy> how?
[14:00] <bryan> hi everybody
[14:00] <Djmaster329> Hello
[14:00] <zykotick9> francesco_, if you're using the SVN version of kdenlive, you should try to find if they have a support channel.
[14:00] <Guest48588> can someone help me to configure my shrew vpn  on ubuntu
[14:00] <bronzenoob> can any1 help... i need to download syslinux but syslinux.org and kernel.org are down
[14:00] <bronzenoob> i just can't find it anywhere
[14:00] <bronzenoob> any1 have a copy?
[14:01] <Guest48588> i want to learn if someone  help me
[14:02] <zykotick9> bronzenoob, see if what you're looking for is on the github repo https://github.com/mirrors/linux-2.6 good luck.
[14:02] <malki> hello i got 2 big problems: first: is there anyway to disable sudo pass? so i dont have to type the password everytime? autologin etc?
[14:02] <Djmaster329> Bronzenoob, give me a second
[14:02] <bronzenoob> thanks dj
[14:03] <new2net> malki: you can extend the time between when you are asked to authenticate. I think the default is 5 or 10 minutes.
[14:03] <Djmaster329> Bronzenoob, you should be able to find something here: http://mirror.muntinternet.net/pub/linux/boot/syslinux/
[14:03] <malki> what about autologin? without having to enter the password?
[14:03] <sl33k_> Which is a good open source cd burning s/w for ubuntu like nero in windows?
[14:03] <zykotick9> new2net, 15 min is default sudo timeout.
[14:03] <thrillERboy> Hi, How to add user and assing to a group in one step
[14:03] <Guest48588> heyyyyyyyyy
[14:03] <bronzenoob> nice thanks
[14:03] <new2net> s/5 or 10/5 plus 10/g
[14:04] <bronzenoob> got it
[14:04] <thrillERboy> say assign to sudo group
[14:04] <Djmaster329> You're welcome :)
[14:04] <Sidewinder1> sl33k_, FFMPEG or DeVeDe.
[14:04] <zykotick9> sl33k_, it requires the KDE libraries, but K3B is ALMOST worth the huge size.
[14:04] <zykotick9> sl33k_, i don't understand Sidewinder1's suggestion neither ffmpeg or devede is burning software
[14:05] <sl33k_> Sidewinder1: does it require kde
[14:05] <sl33k_> zykotick9: any gnome alternative?
[14:05] <zykotick9> sl33k_, gnomeburner (not sure on exact package name)
[14:06] <Sidewinder1> zykotick9, Don't they burn? I was under the impression that any encoding/decodeing software would also burn. Guess I was wrong. :-(
[14:06] <julie101010> uoou, zykotick9:  just applied the option to my xorg.conf and will need to wait a few minutes to see if the problem is now resolved but so far it looks ok, although compiz is still running
[14:06] <new2net> malki: maybe you can make your main group root and get the same result
[14:07] <malki> i installed ubuntu on a secondary partition from windows with windows installer cause no usb and no dvd available on my notebook. but now the problem is if i start my notebook it first starts the windows bootmenu where i can choose windows or ubuntu, and then the linux bootmenu appears if i choose ubuntu. I want to have the linux bootloader alone as default. i want to completly delete windows
[14:07] <zykotick9> Sidewinder1, ffmpeg is encoding only, devede is for creating DVD ISO images from movies
[14:07] <adam_> What kind of specs does ubuntu need to run?
[14:07] <Sidewinder1> zykotick9, I just use the default burner that comes w/10.04.
[14:07] <adam_> I have 64kb RAM ;)
[14:08] <zykotick9> adam_, troll elsewhere.  If you want the requirements see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[14:08] <Sidewinder1> zykotick9, OK, thanks; I've obviously never used either. I'll go back to hiding in the corner. :-)
[14:08] <BluesKaj> his pc must be 20 yrs old
[14:08] <zykotick9> Sidewinder1, ;)
[14:08] <new2net> malki: I would warn you, incase you don't already know, executing everything as root is an easy way to break your install.
[14:08] <sl33k_> Sidewinder1, zykotick9: is the default burner good? its name is brasero
[14:08] <Gredeu> is gbrainy better than math at mind strengthening ?
[14:08] <thrillERboy> Hi, How to add a new user and add him to sudo group, in one step?
[14:09] <malki> my other question is more important :D
[14:09] <malki> but thanks for the warning
[14:09] <zykotick9> sl33k_, brasero is fine (personally, I can't stand it but that's a personal opinion)
[14:09] <adam_> Not trolling, I just want to see if its possible to run Ubuntu on Commodore 64.
[14:09] <malki> i want to install grub as default ... it should replace windows bootmenu
[14:09] <neil_m> lol
[14:09] <malki> how can i do that?
[14:09] <ace> led on hp probook is not working. I need help
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> sl33k_, Sometimes it throws crazy error messages but burns perfectly, in spite of the error messages.
[14:09] <new2net> malki: Did you install windows or unbuntu first?
[14:09] <thrillERboy> malki: from my experiance windows update break grub :(
[14:10] <malki> first i installed windows, then my usb port dvd drive broke
[14:10] <malki> then windows was screwed
[14:10] <zykotick9> sl33k_, actually, brasero is the only burning software I currently have install!  so i can't dislike it that much.
[14:10] <malki> i installed ubuntu with windows installer
[14:10] <sl33k_> zykotick9, Sidewinder1: thanks for the help. i'll try brasero
[14:10] <malki> so now windows boot menu starts first
[14:10] <Sidewinder1> sl33k_, NP. :D
[14:11] <zykotick9> sl33k_, K3B really is the most powerful burning software I've seen in my many years of gnu/linux use - i just hate the fact that it's KDE based.
[14:11] <Sidewinder1> malki, WUBI?
[14:11] <malki> yes with wubi
[14:11] <malki> i installed ubuntu from windows with wubi
[14:11] <Sidewinder1> malki, There's your problem.
[14:12] <new2net> malki: grub-install -v
[14:12] <zykotick9> malki, FYI WUBI isn't a real ubuntu install - it's installed inside windows, and is thus dependent on windows
[14:12] <ace> anyone?
[14:12] <ace> hey hey hey
[14:12] <new2net> malki: no guarantees on that. Might want to read the whole page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Grub#Recovering_GRUB
[14:12] <malki> is there no way to let grub replace windows boot?
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> malki, WUBI's intention is to try ubuntu, within win. environment; certainly not for long term use. :)
[14:13] <zykotick9> new2net, i'd be careful with your suggestions, unless you are familiar with wubi
[14:13] <Gallo1> anyone here use wicd ?
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> malki, Not surprising that win. update would break wubi.
[14:16] <OnkelTem> I can't unmount USB device - its like busy. But I CAN'T find anything using it
[14:16] <OnkelTem> fuser -m /dev/sdb1 - shows nothing
[14:16] <OnkelTem> fuser -m /media/38b55b81-615e-4886-9e20-10b2c0ece5a7 (the fs) - shows nothing
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, zykotick9 , one of the best dvd tools for authoring and creating dvd images is tovid ...cli but it gives instructions what to do in each step as the build to a dvd progresses
[14:17] <OnkelTem> lsof | grep /dev/sdb1 shows nothing too
[14:17] <OnkelTem> wtf?
[14:17] <RocketmanTT> Hello everyone, I'm having trouble getting PPTP client to work in 11.0.04
[14:18] <RocketmanTT> I'm trying to get PPTP to work via the GUI
[14:18] <zeroedout> rocketmantt: using network-manager i presume? What problem is it having?
[14:18] <RocketmanTT> yes
[14:18] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Oh my goodness, CLI, Sidewinder1 doesn't know how to type; that's why I stick to GUI as much as I can.
[14:19] <RocketmanTT> the VPN is created but when I select it and look at the connection info, it says there are no active connections
[14:19] <zykotick9> BluesKaj, I haven't heard of tovid before (it's not a debian package, but I might try it out sometime), thanks.
[14:19] <malki> okay one last question... is there any GUI for GRUB?
[14:20] <zeroedout> rocketmantt: You'll need to get more detail into what's going wrong. you can check dmesg, but I'm not sure if there will be much useful info there. You can try /var/log/syslog and other logs there to see if you get any more info
[14:21] <bastidrazor> zykotick9: its in the ubuntu repo's. tovid is a good converter
[14:21] <RocketmanTT> let me check
[14:21] <zeroedout> You might also want to try the the cli version of network-manager it might give more info
[14:21] <bastidrazor> BluesKaj: there is a gui version too.. tovidgui
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> malki, I don't believe so but you can edit the grub config. files via gui by issuing sudo gedit.
[14:22] <x3qt0r> When I try to plot something in CLI mode in mathematica, on ubuntu 10.04, i get an output as " -Graphics-" and nothing more
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> malki, Make that "gksudo gedit!
[14:22] <BluesKaj> bastidrazor, ok, good to hear ...I haven't used tovid for a while since I just play videos from this media server hdd
[14:23] <Sidewinder1> malki, Sorry.
[14:23] <uthpala> hi
[14:23] <bastidrazor> BluesKaj: same here.. ushare and the xbox/ps3 make it all pointless to make dvd's now.
[14:23] <RocketmanTT> there's nothing in dmesg and /var/log/syslog
[14:23] <RocketmanTT> at least nothing related to the PPTP connection
[14:24] <BluesKaj> bastidrazor, yup
[14:24] <uthpala> @RocketmanTT is this about a mobile broad band connection
[14:25] <uthpala> I also have a question regarding mobile broad band in ubuntu 11.04
[14:25] <RocketmanTT> @uthpala, I'm trying to connect via PPTP to HideIPVPN
[14:25] <uthpala> ah
[14:25] <[THC]AcidRain> i guess there is no way at all that i could recover an email that i dont kow the email address to?
[14:26] <oCean> [THC]AcidRain: I don't see how that's an #ubuntu issue
 forgive my knowledge on Ubuntu networking is out dated
[14:27] <[THC]AcidRain> its more of a pidgin issue
[14:28]  * Sidewinder1 Thought pidgin was an IM client.
[14:28] <scotty^> !pidgin
[14:28] <RocketmanTT> sigh, i've been trying to follow the docs online, but nothing specific to 11.0.4
[14:28] <[THC]AcidRain> it is. but pidgin had this issue a few months ago where it wouldnt handle my large contact list so i stopped using IM all together, now i want to see if they have fixed their bugs
[14:29] <oCean> [THC]AcidRain: I think you need to clarify your issue more, then
[14:29] <uthpala> my problem is in the network manager my modem profile does not appear
[14:30] <uthpala> I was able to connet using the modem when installing but after installing I am not able to connect
[14:30] <MissingPerson> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1841925
[14:31] <stalker> i installet ubuntu, but i cant swich between windows
[14:31] <MissingPerson> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1841925 can anyone help me with this problem?
[14:32] <IdleOne> MissingPerson: are you running Mint?
[14:32] <Fate1> anyone know what package I need for openssl development library. Ubuntu version: Natty
[14:32] <cpfr> superos, fixed it
[14:32] <Fate1> I can't seem to get it
[14:32] <cpfr> turns out i needed to symlink site-packages to dist-packages and then that to /usr/shared/pyshared
[14:32] <MissingPerson> IdleOne: yes, why?
[14:32] <oCean> Fate1: isn't it libssl-dev package?
[14:33] <IdleOne> !mint | MissingPerson
[14:33] <cpfr> i ran a script to reinstall all my python packages for safe measure
[14:34] <Fate1> I tried libssl-dev.. but it says it's unable to locate package
[14:34] <MissingPerson> IdleOne: I can never get help in the linuxmint channel
[14:34] <IdleOne> MissingPerson: I feel for you but we don't support mint in here
[14:34] <oCean> !info libssl-dev
[14:35] <uthpala> Hi I need some help on Ubuntu network manger
[14:35] <ArW> hello
[14:35] <oCean> Fate1: ^it is the correct package name. Maybe problem with your current repo mirror?
 can you help on this problem
[14:36] <hydruid> uthpala, what is your problem
[14:36] <centHOGG> MissingPerson: you get what you pay for
[14:37] <centHOGG> sorry to say
[14:37] <MissingPerson> centHOGG can you be any more condescending?
[14:37] <centHOGG> wasn't trying to be
 I installed Ubuntu 11.04 when installing I was able to connect with my modem
[14:37] <bloodlufe> hello.. i need help in setting up of UEC
[14:38] <bloodlufe> Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud server...
[14:38] <Gredeu> MissingPerson, you just can't get support for that here and Mint is free.
[14:38] <Turkkk> Merhabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Ubuntu 11.10 (çalışmayan düşünüyorum) can sıkıcı bir durum! WiFi çalışma değildir! Lütfen yardım edin!
[14:38] <bloodlufe> ny one...
[14:38] <IdleOne> bloodlufe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall
[14:39] <Fate1> !info sources.list
[14:39] <student> = = ''
[14:39] <student> 0..0
[14:39] <student> dc c
[14:39] <student> What are you doing?
[14:39] <Turkkk> tahitian translator Did you mean: Drama Kid 12 Type text or a website address or translate a document. Cancel English to Turkish translation lütfen cevap!haha azgın
[14:39] <Turkkk> SHIT
[14:39] <Turkkk> CUNT
[14:40] <FloodBot1> Turkkk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:40] <MoD_7> will compiz fusion work on gnome 3 ??
[14:40] <hydruid> !Guidelines | Turkkk
 i'm struck at 1 point.. give me an error "Debootstrap error" when installing base system...
[14:40] <bloodlufe> *gives
[14:41] <bloodlufe> "Failed to Determine the Codename for the release"
[14:41] <IdleOne> bloodlufe: sorry I know nothing about UEC
[14:41] <MoD_7> will compiz work on gnome 3?? is it worth upgrading ??
[14:41] <bloodlufe> any complete installation documentation...?
[14:42] <Polah> Fate1: sources.list is the list of sources that packages can be downloaded from, it's not a package itself.
[14:42] <bloodlufe> Help required in Installing UEC...!!!
[14:42] <bloodlufe> ny one pls...
[14:43] <oCean> bloodlufe: there is a specific #ubuntu-cloud  channel for uec
[14:43] <Polah> bloodlufe: If someone knows, they will help you. Please don't post lots of messages.
[14:43] <bloodlufe> oh.. thanx for the info..
[14:44] <Fate1> !info libssl-dev
[14:44] <bhavesh> I did WINEPREFIX=$HOME/.wine-test wine ./Desktop/SkyFights2/pawno/pawno.exe  in terminal it worked.. but when I did same in Add Custom App Launcher to panel> Command , it returns No such file or directory
[14:46] <bhavesh> Any other way to make a shortcut for starting app with terminal command?
[14:47] <monkey_kju> bhavesh: use ln -s
[14:48] <MissingPerson> Gredeu: I get it, but did I ask for salt in the wound?
[14:49] <RocketmanTT> Anyone has experience creating a PPTP client from Ubuntu Server 11.0.4?
[14:49] <monkey_kju> Hi everybody ! I want to implement the draw line algorithm as DDA, Bresenham
[14:49] <monkey_kju> in linux. How  can I do it ? Thanks
[14:49] <bhavesh> !ln
[14:50] <yeats> RocketmanTT: what's your actual question about it?
[14:51] <RocketmanTT> @yeats My issue is that I'm able to create the VPN connection but when I click it in NetworkManager, nothing happens
[14:51] <bhavesh> monkey_kju: ln -s creates a symbolic link instead of hard link?.. but How am i supposed to use it in my case..?
[14:52] <abdi> is possible to upgrade my nvidia drivers from 260.19 to 270?
[14:52] <yeats> RocketmanTT: did the NM icon change at all?
[14:53] <RocketmanTT> @yeats no it didn't
[14:54] <lolmaus> I've created /etc/conf/uwsgi.conf, but "sudo start uwsgi" says "unknown job". Why? What should i do to start it?
[14:54] <pcmaster112> any one know where i can get One Piece?
[14:54] <bhavesh> monkey_kju: it says Its not an absolute path
[14:54] <yeats> RocketmanTT: (the @ is not required in IRC - just type my name - tab complete works too) no error message at all?
[14:54] <Polah> lolmaus: sudo service start uwsgi.conf, provided you've properly set up it's init scripts and suchlike with Upstart
[14:55] <lolmaus> Polah, i have only created the "/etc/init/uwsgi.conf". Is taht enough?
[14:56] <RocketmanTT> yeats no errors...i used sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog but there are no errors except for this - <info> Unmanaged Device found; state CONNECTED forced. (see http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889)
[14:56] <subr00t> hi there
[14:56] <monkey_kju> bhavesh: use the command ln -s TARGET /home/username/Desktop/linkname
[14:56] <abdi> can somebody help me installing the nvidia 270 drivers? I'm using ubuntu 10.10
[14:57] <Polah> lolmaus: Probably not, you need to add a line to your runlevels too and suchlike. Other people can explain better. Have a look at !upstart and perhaps this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto#Other_Upstart_Commands
[14:57] <monkey_kju> then refesh the desktop
[14:57] <yeats> RocketmanTT: so how did you set up the PPTP connection? via NetworkManager?
[14:57] <Polah> pcmaster112, the anime/manga? Probably Amazon or some other retailer.
[14:57] <RocketmanTT> yeats: correct, it was configured via NetworkManager and no errors encountered during configuration
[14:57] <subr00t> im using kubuntu 10.10, i want to install gnome, but my connexion is too low, can i install it from ubuntu 10.10 cd? i dont want to reinstall the whole system, i only want to add the gnome environment
[14:57] <jesus> hello
[14:57] <monkey_kju> bhavesh: TARGET is the exec file
[14:58] <Guest17987> ok
[14:58] <bhavesh> ok
[14:58] <yeats> RocketmanTT: okay - sounds like you might want to set it up manually then - do you know how?
[14:58] <Guest17987> espeakin espanis please
[14:58] <IdleOne> !es
[14:58] <RocketmanTT> yeats: not really
[14:59] <Polah> Does jockey report usage of proprietary drivers incorrectly?
[14:59] <subr00t> is there a way to add Gnome to kubuntu from ubuntu 10.10 cd?
[14:59] <RocketmanTT> yeats: well i've looked at the docs on the net but they're for the older versions
[14:59] <IdleOne> subr00t: install ubuntu-desktop package
[14:59] <yeats> RocketmanTT: they're probably still useful - that functionality hasn't changed really at all
[14:59] <Guest17987> hello
[15:00] <subr00t> IdleOne, can i install it from the cd?
[15:00] <pcmaster112> type/t
[15:00] <Guest17987> wats your name ??
[15:00] <monkey_kju> How can I implement draw line algorithm DDA, Bresenham in C/C++ on ubuntu :)
[15:01] <RocketmanTT> yeats: can you give me a link that will be most relevant to v11.0.4
[15:01] <IdleOne> subr00t: should be able to, not sure if you can from the kubuntu cd.
[15:01] <Polah> subr00t: See !aptoncd
[15:01] <subr00t> polah, i will google that, thx
[15:01] <Polah> subr00t: If all the packages were there and you set up your apt to use the CD then it should be able to pick them off.
[15:01] <Polah> !aptoncd | subr00t
[15:01] <Polah> Psh, who uses Google when ubottu is here? (:
[15:02] <IdleOne> subr00t: probably not, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package that fetches all the needed packages. they may not all be on the cd.
[15:02] <yeats> RocketmanTT: this looks pretty much right on: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-configure-pptp-vpn-in-ubuntu-intrepid-and-jaunty.html
[15:02] <yeats> RocketmanTT: that's more or less what I do
[15:03]  * yeats has not gotten NM do to what he wants it to do for PPTP
[15:03] <Guest17987> olaa
[15:03] <Guest17987> ola ai putillas a domicilio??
[15:04] <RocketmanTT> yeats: thanks very much, i'll give it a shot
[15:04] <Guest17795> hi all Q) were is the best place to get live-helper support for Ubuntu building
[15:04] <MissingPerson> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1841925 can anyone give me help with this?
[15:04] <yeats> RocketmanTT: feel free to ping me again if you hit a wall - I'm up and down, but paying attention ;-)
[15:05] <RocketmanTT> yeats: no probs, we'll catch up
[15:05] <hydruid> MissingPerson, post your problem not a link for us to read with many posts
[15:05] <bastidrazor> MissingPerson: is using Mint.
[15:05] <IdleOne> MissingPerson: I told you we do not support mint here. Stop asking.
[15:06] <Polah> Guest17795, here.
[15:06] <Damascene> Hi, every time I run AIDE IDS check I get this "open_dir():Not a directory filenamegoeshere"
[15:06] <MissingPerson> i'm really sorry, i thought i was in the mint channel
[15:10] <RocketmanTT> yeats: question, is that link for hosting PPTP server?
[15:11] <linuxmintman> Question for anyone- I am running gnome 2 and Pidgin... I want to be able to dock pidgin on the right side of the screen so that it is always visible, and other windows are down sized so you can still see pidgin. You can do this on the windows version, how do you do it on gnome 2?
[15:13] <bastidrazor> linuxmintman: compiz settings. #compiz would be the best place to ask since they know this subject well
[15:13] <linuxmintman> ok cool thanks!
[15:15] <TripleTea> does anyone else encounter frequent applet crashes when starting up ?
[15:17] <Ptitrist> Someone to help me ? My consol is not working..
[15:17] <Ptitrist> I can't log myself, it put me a mistake error
[15:18] <Ptitrist> No one to help me ?
[15:19] <se> I'm having a very annoying problem. During high CPU load, the processor gets throttled back to a lower frequency (I monitor this with Conky). This problem appears in both 32 and 64 bit Ubuntu.
[15:20] <julie101010> se:  could it be due to cpu overheat by any chance?
[15:21] <umeju> test
[15:21] <se> julie101010, I haven't thought of that. I think I'll clean the fans before further debugging. Thanks.
[15:21] <alexxio> hi
[15:22] <umeju> ciao!
[15:22] <alexxio> questo canale è in ita?
[15:22] <umeju> no non credo
[15:23] <umeju> cmq è la prima volta che mi connetto
[15:23] <glebihan> !it | alexxio
[15:23] <alexxio> hi i want to install ubuntu from within the harddisk without usb disks nor cdroms
[15:23] <alexxio> the guide i followed are not clear
[15:23] <umeju> sorry ubottu it was only a test
[15:24] <alexxio> i want to know if i have to copy the casper/vmlinux and initrd.img in the cdrom into a boot folder then boot there with grub
[15:24] <umeju> ihow can i find this channel: openkinect
[15:25] <alexxio> umeju: type "/j openkinect" without " "
[15:25] <umeju> tenx
[15:28] <Ambivert> hi
[15:31] <gallo1> hey can someone help get me setup with ubuntu wireless, resulted to using wicd and it worked for a short while then stopped working....
[15:33] <ionut> hello
[15:33] <Ambivert> What are the main different between this distro and gentoo linux?
[15:33] <Damascene> Hi, every time I run AIDE IDS check I get this "open_dir():Not a directory filenamegoeshere"
[15:34] <marcnesium> this works mostly out of the box and gentoo is for more advanced users...
[15:35] <Ambivert> thanks marcnesium
[15:35] <Ambivert> so i should have little trouble switching
[15:35] <marcnesium> from where?
[15:35] <Ambivert> ?apache2
[15:36] <Ambivert> from gentoo to ubuntu
[15:36] <Ambivert> ??apache2
[15:36] <marcnesium> why would you want that?
[15:37] <Ambivert> marcnesium: im sick to deft of compling everything from source
[15:37] <Ambivert> itstaketoo long
[15:37] <marcnesium> than ubutu is the right 4u
[15:38] <Ambivert> thanks marcnesium
[15:39]  * w30 notices the big differences in distros is the various add ons that overwrite default config files; resolv.conf for example
[15:39] <Ambivert> is there a help botin this room|?
[15:39] <oCean> !bot > Ambivert
[15:40] <marcnesium> disadvantage is, that ubuntu don't always have bleeding edge newest versions of packages...
[15:40] <edbian> marcnesium: like arch
[15:40] <edbian> Ambivert: what's a botin?
[15:41] <marcnesium> yes
[15:42] <w30> !botin
[15:43] <TrueColors> I'm trying to install Ndiswrapper
[15:43] <TrueColors> can anyone help me?
[15:43] <w30> !bot botin
[15:43] <TrueColors> soryr I know not to ask to ask
[15:43] <TrueColors> xD
[15:44] <TrueColors> basically I'ev extracted the .tar.gz file
[15:44] <TrueColors> and the install readme thing tells me to run Make uninstall, make
[15:44] <TrueColors> then to login as root and run make install
[15:44] <TrueColors> I can't find these files?
[15:44] <mneptok> TrueColors: why do you think you need ndiswrapper?
[15:45] <TrueColors> My wifi adapter doesn't have any linux drivers
[15:45] <TrueColors> and ubuntu won't install it
[15:45] <mneptok> TrueColors: what is the chipset in the adapter? is it PCI(ish) or USB?
[15:45] <TrueColors> So ... I can't use ubuntu really.
[15:45] <TrueColors> uh
[15:45] <TrueColors> usb
[15:45] <mneptok> TrueColors: lsusb -vvv
[15:46] <TrueColors> im guessing in terminal?
[15:46] <mneptok> TrueColors: that will tell you who made the hardware in the device.
[15:46] <samuelsapps> have you try the apt-get ndiswrapper
[15:46] <samuelsapps> have you try the apt-get install ndiswrapper
[15:46] <alazare619> captainknots
[15:46] <alazare619> noops...
[15:47] <TrueColors> mneptok, that has a bunch of data come up...
[15:47] <TrueColors> but i don't understand any of it
[15:47] <Zoffix_> Hey, I'm trying to record a video from my webcam using ``cheese'', but it crashes 80% of the time in the first 10-20 seconds saying "Reason: Took too much time to process"
[15:47] <TrueColors> root hubs...
[15:47] <Zoffix_> How can I fix that?
[15:47] <mneptok> TrueColors: go look for the entry for the USB device. it is plugged in, right?
[15:47] <TrueColors> yeah it's plugged in
[15:47] <mneptok> TrueColors: or just pastebin the entire output
[15:49] <TrueColors> bare with me. I'v enever used ubuntu properly before and I have no net on it. so I have to swap between desktop and laptop with my external
[15:50] <mneptok> TrueColors: use a wired connection?
[15:50] <TrueColors> I haven't got a cable long enough to travel up two flights of stairs
[15:50] <mneptok> TrueColors: buy a smaller house? ;)
[15:50] <TrueColors> it is small
[15:50] <TrueColors> I'm in the attic
[15:51] <TheoKar_> test
[15:51] <TrueColors> plus it's rented too xD
[15:51] <mneptok> TrueColors: my parents kept me up there until i was 21, too.
[15:51] <TrueColors> eh, my mum would give me 5 bedrooms ... if she could afford it
[15:51] <TrueColors> but we had no alternative
[15:51] <TrueColors> buy a 2bed house and stick me in the attic xD
[15:51] <irks0me_> your desktop does  not run ubuntu i suppose?
[15:51] <TrueColors> well, rent a 2 bed house
[15:51] <TrueColors> my desktop runs ubuntu xD
[15:52] <irks0me_> lsusb should give the same output there as on the laptop
[15:52] <TrueColors> havent' got it installed on laptop.
[15:52] <TrueColors> let me pastebin
[15:52] <TrueColors> http://pastebin.com/DKfUEfBm
[15:52] <irks0me_> at least for the adaptor
[15:52] <TrueColors> adaptor isn't broken btw, it works on windows (desktop is dual boot)
[15:53] <lxyu> hello, I'm trying to setup nfs-server for local lan access. I follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[15:53] <TrueColors> It's got microsoft corp... that's my microsoft wireless usb and mouse
[15:53] <TrueColors> I've searched the web for my model number of the adaptor but everyone says there is no linux driver
[15:53] <TrueColors> and I was recommended Ndiswrapper
[15:54] <lxyu> But I'm stucked at the 'mount --bind' part, the --bind folder can be connect, but shows nothing inside.
[15:54] <mneptok> TrueColors: have you tried booting the machine with the device connected, and seeing if Ubuntu offers restricted drivers for it?
[15:54] <lxyu> How shall I solve this? to make nfs support `mount --bind` folders
[15:54] <TrueColors> I keep it plugged in at all times
[15:54] <TrueColors> ubuntu shows up with no drivers
[15:54] <TrueColors> no graphic drivers
[15:54] <TrueColors> none of my hardware is really installed.
[15:55] <TrueColors> I wanted internet connection so I could install drivers
[15:55] <mneptok> TrueColors: NDISwrapper is a really horrible solution. so it's a last resort.
[15:55] <TrueColors> what does it do?
[15:55] <mneptok> it takes the Windows driver and tries to make it work in Linux
[15:57] <TrueColors> Belkin F7D1102
[15:57] <TrueColors> is the model
[15:57] <cpyou> Hey all
[15:57] <Ambivert> all i did was enable non-open source drivers and it worked
[15:57] <edbian> TrueColors: what's hte chipset?  (sudo lscpi | grep Network)
[15:58] <TrueColors> sudo: lscpi: command not found
[15:59] <BluesKaj> TrueColors, I have a Belkin with the rt2870  module and wicd network manager works with it
[15:59] <mneptok> TrueColors: that uses the RealTek RTL8188CUS chipset
[15:59] <Ambivert> !apache2
[15:59] <TrueColors> I have no idea what a wicd network manager is.
[15:59] <TrueColors> mneptok... so what does that mean?
[15:59] <yeats> RocketmanTT: no - it's for the client
[16:00] <TrueColors> I know realtek is a sound driver ... isn't it?
[16:00] <edbian> TrueColors: you made a typo.  It's lspci not lscpi
[16:00] <BluesKaj> it's an alternative network manager to the default , TrueColors
[16:00] <BluesKaj> !wicd
[16:00] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[16:01] <monkey_kju> !sh
[16:01] <Sidewinder1> edbian, Ahem, WADR, I think you made the typo. :)
[16:01] <mneptok> TrueColors: that chipset has a Linux driver. it should be included in newer kernels. what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:01] <battlehands> Urgent.  I need to install Ventrilo on 32bit unity ubuntu
[16:01] <edbian> :P
[16:01] <edbian> Sidewinder1: thanks
[16:01] <TrueColors> uh
[16:02] <edbian> TrueColors: colors, the correct command is sudo lspci | grep Network   (I made the typo)
[16:02] <cpyou> battlehands: are you using it to run the server or just for joining channels?
[16:02] <TrueColors> 10.10
[16:02] <Sidewinder1> edbian, And with my typing skills, or lack thereof, I should be the last to talk. :-)
[16:02] <battlehands> cpyou, joining channels.  I have a conference call 2 minutes ago.
[16:02] <edbian> Sidewinder1: thanks though :)
[16:02] <Sidewinder1> Np
[16:02] <TrueColors> sudo lspci | grep Network...
[16:02] <TrueColors> does nothing
[16:03] <cpyou> battlehands: they have alternatives.
[16:03] <mneptok> TrueColors: update to 11.04 and see if that helps. RealTek released the Linux driver in November, 2010. after 10.10 was released.
[16:03] <zwk> ;D
[16:03] <TrueColors> right
[16:03] <TrueColors> so that's a whole new download of ubuntu right?
[16:03] <battlehands> cpyou, not interested in this time.  I just need help getting it installed.
[16:03] <TrueColors> is it possible to uninstall ubuntu? xD
[16:03] <TrueColors> so I can instal it with the newer
[16:03] <Zoffix_> Hey. I'm trying to align video track to the audio track in PiTiVi, the video is lagging a few miliseconds, but I can't seem to align it that perfectly with a mouse. Is there a keyboard shortcut for moving the video/audo tracks?
[16:03] <mneptok> TrueColors: not if you can get a wired connection and upgrade over the net.
[16:03] <cpyou> battlehands: I believe it's called mangler. Works exactly like vent, and you can join vent servers
[16:03] <edbian> TrueColors: really.  Can you pastebin sudo lspci -k  ??  paste.ubuntu.com
[16:03] <cpyou> Which is what you're looking for.
[16:03] <TrueColors> hold on
[16:04] <mneptok> edbian: it's a USB dongle.
[16:04] <TrueColors> I'll move the computer downstairs
[16:04] <TrueColors> and use ethernet
[16:04] <battlehands> cpyou, ubuntu software center?
[16:04] <TrueColors> dont' go anywhere, I'll be back soon.
[16:04] <cpyou> Should be there
[16:04] <battlehands> Urgent.  I need to install Ventrilo on 32bit unity ubuntu
[16:04] <edbian> mneptok: a-ha!
[16:04] <edbian> TrueColors: can you see the dongle in the output of sudo lsusb
[16:04] <mneptok> edbian: and he already pastebinned the output of lsusb -vvv
[16:04] <cpyou> battlehands: if not, I'm sure there is a .deb package on their site.
[16:05] <edbian> I'm an idiot
[16:05] <cpyou> I had it installed a while back
[16:05] <ajah> i setup wireless network with iwconfig from iwlist scanning i can see it but from other but i can`t see the network from ipod or from other laptop
[16:05] <battlehands> just interested in installing ventrilo
[16:05] <mneptok> edbian: the problem is that the kernel he's using was released before RealTek released drivers for the chipset in question.
[16:05] <Zoffix_> Never mind, I used CTRL+Scroll wheel to zoom in and then adjusted the length with a mouse.
[16:05] <fermulator> Has anyone tried unity with dual monitors?  the top right "indicator" area is duplicated on both monitors :-( -- was wondering if any1 had fiddled with this yet, and if they knew how to make the top right indicators/chat/shutdown/logout icons ONLY appear on a single monitor (ideally, the right monitor, top right)
[16:05] <edbian> I am a useless idiot
[16:06] <mneptok> edbian: but you look good in that blouse! ;)
[16:06] <edbian> Are we referencing something?
[16:06] <mneptok> edbian: no. i'm just undercaffienated.
[16:07]  * mneptok tootles off for more coffee
[16:07] <edbian> :)
[16:07] <cpyou> battlehands: The issue is that they don't have a client app for Linux.
[16:07] <battlehands> cpyou, They have a script that can be used.  I just dont know how.
[16:07] <cpyou> battlehands: So you either install Mangler and use that, or not run anything at all, unless you want to do a Wine workaround
[16:07] <TrueColors> brb
[16:07] <luc_> hi   does anybody   know if  i  can  get my files from windows an burn them to disk in ubuntu
[16:08] <fermulator> battlehands: http://www.osalt.com/ventrilo
[16:08] <battlehands> cpyou, I cant find mangler in ubuntu software center
[16:08] <cpyou> battlehands: what's the script (url)?
[16:08] <Zoffix_> luc_, yes, you can.
[16:08] <yeats> luc_: dual booting?
[16:08] <battlehands> cpyou, http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php
[16:08] <fermulator> battlehands: http://mumble.sourceforge.net/FAQ#Can_I_use_Mumble_to_connect_to_Ventrilo.2FTeamspeak.2FSkype.2F..., darn, apparently you can't use mumble to connect to a ventrilo server
[16:09] <cpyou> battlehands: open terminal and just do: sudo apt-get install mangler
[16:09] <fermulator> battlehands: oh, and here we go! http://www.mangler.org/
[16:09] <cpyou> that's all.
[16:09] <Zoffix_> luc_, if you click on "Places" menu, there's probably your windows hard drive right there, already available. Just click on it, and navigate to whatever files you want.
[16:09] <luc_> yeats, yesbecause windows      7willnot        reboot even   in  safe   mode
[16:09] <w30> mneptok, w30  chases a VICODIN HP 10-660 with a shot of Folgers
[16:10] <battlehands> fermulator, trying mumble
[16:10] <alkafoo> w30: best part o' wakin' up
[16:11] <cpyou> battlehands: did you try apt-get install mangler?
[16:11] <w30> alkafoo, doesn't help the typing though...
[16:13] <w30> alkafoo, medicare doesn't have co-payment for heroin or even weed though
[16:15] <luc_> Zoffix_, how  can get all  my  utorreent files   moved      to         ktorrent for linux
[16:15] <cpyou> battlehands: Did you fix your issue?
[16:15] <Zoffix_> luc_, just open the .torrent files and ask it to download it to the same directory where your already-started downloads are. It will resume automatically.
[16:15] <battlehands> cpyou, Im trying to use mumble, but I there is no place to enter a password
[16:15] <luc_> hi   does anybody   know if  i  can  get my files from windows an burn them to disk in ubuntu
[16:16] <w30> alkafoo, hehheh
[16:16] <TrueColors> booting up now
[16:16] <cpyou> battlehands: lol did you try: sudo apt-get install mangler?
[16:16] <cpyou> battlehands: it's far easier to use, imo.
[16:16] <battlehands> cpyou, yeah.  it said there is no mangler
[16:16] <cpyou> hrm.
[16:16] <cpyou> that's interesting
[16:17] <battlehands> cpyou, invalid operation mangler
[16:17] <ghoul> hi all, the background color of the console during boot is dark purple by default, i'd like to change that, anyone know how ?
[16:17] <luc_> Zoffix_, even    from  windows to  linux
[16:17] <Zoffix_> yes
[16:17] <cpyou> battlehands: you didn't put "install" in there.
[16:17] <antonio_house> giorno a tutti
[16:17] <alkafoo> ghoul: is it an image?
[16:17] <Zoffix_> luc_, yes, it doesn't matter for Linux.
[16:17] <TrueColors> ethernet works
[16:17] <TrueColors> Ok so..
[16:17] <TrueColors> what do you guys want me to do
[16:18] <luc_> Zoffix_, they are different   programs
[16:18] <ghoul> i mean before the login screen. i don't think it's an image, still console mode. default ubuntu natty install
[16:18] <mneptok> TrueColors: run the Update Manager.
[16:18] <Zoffix_> luc_, yeah, but they implement the same BitTorrent protocol :)
[16:18] <mneptok> TrueColors: it should tell you a new release is available. go ahead and update to it.
[16:18] <TrueColors> where is the update manager
[16:18] <cpyou> battlehands: http://www.mangler.org/downloads/debian/mangler_1.2.0-1_i386.deb
[16:18] <sburwood1> why can I update on my desktop computer opera, but on my EEEPC, it refuses based on an untrusted download site?
[16:18] <mneptok> TrueColors: System > Admin
[16:18] <alkafoo> luc_: http://superuser.com/questions/178680/migrate-from-utorrent-to-ktorrent
[16:19] <cpyou> battlehands: Download that. If you need help installing it, let me know.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> luc copy the torrent files to the pathto folder you have seup in ktorrent >settings/configure ktorrent/application>"copy torrent files to"
[16:19] <alkafoo> luc_: the only danger is if you accidentally start the torrent client and it isn't looking for the data in the right place, and you start downloading files you already have to a new location
[16:19] <TrueColors> ok
[16:19] <TrueColors> um
[16:19] <Guest65948> I am trying to use skype and the mic in my webcam is not working any ideas?
[16:19] <scarleo> Is there no one else that has problem with putting the Ubuntu ISOs on a USB and get it to boot? I've done this several times before but it seems close to impossible tom get it to work with 11.04
[16:19] <alkafoo> luc_: to protect against that, make sure you start it with everything paused first, or with the download speed throttled
[16:19] <mneptok> TrueColors: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[16:19] <cpyou> Guest65948: Did you make sure they're not muted in Sound Preferences and that they are selected?
[16:20] <TrueColors> oh
[16:20] <alkafoo> scarleo: could be the computer or the stick
[16:20] <TrueColors> upgrade ubuntu first?
[16:20] <Guest65948> cpyou: yes
[16:20] <TrueColors> I have 157 updates
[16:20] <TrueColors> so..
[16:20] <Lasers> scarleo: Installing system from USB or boot system from USB?
[16:20] <TrueColors> yeah I'll upgrade
[16:20] <TrueColors> might aswell
[16:20] <FloodBot1> TrueColors: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:20] <BluesKaj> luc copy the torrent files to the pathto folder you have seup in ktorrent >settings/configure ktorrent/application>"copy torrent files to"
[16:20] <scarleo> alkafoo: I've tried several different so I's say that chance is pretty slim
[16:20] <cpyou> Guest65948: In Gnome panel, not Skype. :P
[16:20] <BluesKaj> oops
[16:20] <TrueColors> oops. I need to stop thinking with my enter.
[16:20] <luc_> Zoffix_, so  i                      onlyran live cd  before now were   should  i  install  ubuntu
[16:20] <scarleo> Lasers: Both, I want to make it boot and then install it
[16:21] <Guest65948> cpyou: yes
[16:21] <Lasers> scarleo: The route I usually take -- Can install system from USB -- but not boot system from USB.
[16:21] <scarleo> Lasers: All I get is the initramfs prompt
[16:21] <cpyou> Guest65948: Hrm. Are you on a laptop?
[16:21] <scarleo> Lasers: How do you install from USB if you're not booting from USB?
[16:21] <Guest65948> cpyou: no a desktop with the newest xubuntu on it
[16:21] <Lasers> scarleo: Booting system from USB -- Mean LiveCD/LiveUSB.
[16:22] <cpyou> Guest65948: open terminal and type: lsmod | grep snd
[16:22] <cpyou> See if anything pops up
[16:22] <scarleo> Lasers: Just to clarify, I want to boot the iso on the usb and then install it from there, is that not how it's done these days?
[16:22] <scarleo> Lasers: I've tried both the live versions and the non-live whatever they are called
[16:22] <Lasers> scarleo: For LiveCD, it is.
[16:22] <TrueColors> this is gonna be a long while... 157 updates.
[16:22] <Lasers> scarleo: Natty 11.04?
[16:22] <scarleo> Lasers: Yes
[16:22] <w30> scarleo, I just saw a comment that EFI boot systems have a problem with usb stick booting. Have you got a EFI or a bios boot?
[16:23] <Lasers> scarleo: i386 / amd64?
[16:23] <Guest65948> cpyou: it did nothing
[16:23] <scarleo> w30: Bios. I heard something about sectors and not makeing the partition start at sector (or block) 1. Is that true and is there any ionformation about that?
[16:23] <luc_> alkafoo, if i install  ubuntu where
[16:24] <scarleo> Lasers: Both, preferably amd64
[16:24] <manixor> Hey guys. I just install Ubuntu, and google-chrome, but the online video is working very slow, I need to install something else for browser, new flash player?
[16:24] <cpyou> Guest65948: that means that their are no sound modules loaded (i.e. no sound at all will be played back)
[16:24] <Lasers> scarleo: Download 13MB -- http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/boot.img.gz
[16:24] <w30> scarleo, I cannot enlighten you any more as to what to do, sorry
[16:24] <Guest65948> cpyou: what should i do then?
[16:25] <cpyou> Guest65948: Are you using onboard sound?
[16:25] <TripleTea> anyone got Japanese Anthy(ibus) to work with skype 2.2 ?
[16:25] <rypervenche> manixor: You need Adobe's flash.
[16:25] <scarleo> Lasers: I have had success on one computer with the mini.iso but I'm a bit frustrated with this and want to make it work with the standard installs
[16:25] <rypervenche> TripleTea: Which version of Skype do you have? "skype -version"
[16:25] <Lasers> scarleo: When you're done downloading, plug in the USB and run "sudo fdisk -l" to determine which sd* to use.
[16:26] <Lasers> scarleo: I think Ubuntu also have Disk Creator -- but yeah, your mileages may vary.
[16:26] <ghoul> bootup console background color : trying /lib/plymouth/themes/text.plymouth
[16:26] <TripleTea> rypervenche: 2.2.0.35 ?
[16:26] <scarleo> Lasers: Yes I know, and I know about several workarounds to get it to install, but why doesn't standard way work?
[16:26] <scarleo> Lasers: I have tried both Ubuntu startup disk creator, dd, and unetbootin, all with the same result
[16:26] <Lasers> scarleo: I don't know. Everything (not just linux) is complicated.
[16:26] <rypervenche> TripleTea: Should work then. I have anthy and works fine on Skype.
[16:26] <yeats> manixor: you can add the Flash Aid addon for firefox, which optionally allows you to install to Chrome
[16:27] <Lasers> scarleo: You're dealing with outdated manuals -- then there are scripts then there are new manuals.
[16:27] <ohyalinuz> ubuntu is going in the wrong direction
[16:27] <luc_> alkafoo, what  is   the   best  torrent    program on linux
[16:27] <Lasers> scarleo: Not to mention people created their own GUI, etc. I just use this one because I know it worked wonders for me.
[16:27] <TripleTea> rypervenche: woot !? are you sure ?O_O i have no way of inputting Japanese text in skype at all
[16:27] <Lasers> luc_: Transmission!
[16:27] <ohyalinuz> luc_ transmission bittorrent client
[16:27] <Lasers> !best | ubottu
[16:27] <zewm> Yeah Transmission is great
[16:27] <auronandace> ohyalinuz: feel free not to use ubuntu
[16:27] <zewm> even on mac
[16:27] <Lasers> luc_: See above. Oops.
[16:27] <scarleo> Lasers: But you haven't heard abt creating a partition that doesn't start at sector 1? On USB that is
[16:27] <rypervenche> TripleTea: Is it not working for you? It works fine for em. If it isn't working, what is it doing?
[16:27] <w30> scarleo, I have used usb-creator to make flash drives bootable with Ubuntu iso's
[16:28] <TripleTea> rypervenche: can you tell me what you did to make it work ??
[16:28] <ohyalinuz> auronandace: just installed ubuntu :D newest build
[16:28] <Guest65948> cpyou: what do you mean? there is a mic in the webcam
[16:28] <ohyalinuz> auronandace: very unstable user interface
[16:28] <Lasers> scarleo: MBR? Well -- If you want to install from USB, let me know.
[16:28] <rypervenche> TripleTea: You may need to export something to get it to work. What is it doing when you try to use it?
[16:28] <auronandace> ohyalinuz: i stick to xfce
[16:28] <TripleTea> rypervenche: nothing happens O_O
[16:28] <cpyou> Guest65948: Ah, okay. The webcam is USB, I'm assuming. In that case, what's the webcam you're using?
[16:28] <scarleo> w30: I'll try that as well
[16:29] <ohyalinuz> auronandace: how to install xfce in ubuntu natty narwhale
[16:29] <scarleo> Lasers: Wht do you mean?
[16:29] <TripleTea> rypervenche: it just doesn't change to the Japanese input at all
[16:29] <Guest65948> cpyou: Yes its usb. it is a microsoft lifecam vx-800
[16:29] <auronandace> ohyalinuz: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:29] <Lasers> scarleo: I can assist you with setting up Installation (and non-live) USB.
[16:30] <ohyalinuz> auronandace: thanks
[16:30] <scarleo> Lasers: Yes please, I'd be happy to get this to work
[16:30] <auronandace> ohyalinuz: no worries :)
[16:30] <TripleTea> rypervenche: can you brief me on what you did that made it work ??
[16:30] <Lasers> scarleo: Okay. Use "sudo fdisk -l" to determine which USB is located at (/dev/sdb, maye?)
[16:30] <rypervenche> TripleTea: Does it work elsewhere or is it only in Skype?
[16:30] <scarleo> Lasers: /dev/sdc
[16:30] <TripleTea> rypervenche: it works else where
[16:30] <ohyalinuz> auronandace: why don't they default to xfce then and why their crap new user interface
[16:30] <w30> scarleo, advantage is that you can dedicate 4 gig to config persistance across reboots
[16:30] <cpyou> Guest65948: Did you plug the camera in *after* you started Ubuntu?
[16:31] <Lasers> scarleo: Okay. "sudo -i" to get in root terminal (this is where you should be careful but I assume youk new that).
[16:31] <scarleo> Lasers: Yes I do
[16:31] <elegido> hi there
[16:31] <auronandace> ohyalinuz: ask canonical, they do xubuntu (which comes with xfce by default)
[16:31] <Gredeu> why shouldn't i run my cpu at full power ?
[16:31] <Lasers> scarleo: Then "zcat /home/scarleo/Downloads/boot.img.gz > /dev/sdc"
[16:31] <Guest65948> cpyou: I have restarted since i plugged it in but yes I believe I did the first time
[16:31] <rypervenche> TripleTea: Put this at the end of your .bashrc file, http://pastebin.com/zXcXFZC1
[16:32] <ohyalinuz> auronandace: they promote ubuntu with their crap interface ;) they should promote xubuntu instead
[16:32] <cpyou> Guest65948: That's weird. Out of the box, that camera should have both working video and audio.
[16:32] <TripleTea> rypervenche: ok ill have a look at that thanks!
[16:32] <rypervenche> TripleTea: Then restart your X session
[16:32] <Ambivert> auronandace: opion notfact
[16:32] <Lasers> scarleo: Wait until it's done writing everything. "exit" to get back to regular terminal and unplug the USB. Try it.
[16:32] <ohyalinuz> any canonical developers or anyone from canonical in this channel?
[16:32] <auronandace> Ambivert: what?
[16:33] <cpyou> Guest65948: I know you said that you checked to make sure that nothing was muted on the sound preferences, but I want you to check to see if you have the webcam selected as your primary input device.
[16:33] <Ambivert> auronandace: I like the gnome GUI
[16:33] <Guest65948> cpyou: I know. it has the video and when i do a sound check in skype I cant hear anything
[16:33] <mneptok> ohyalinuz: you're more likely to find such people in #ubuntu-devel
[16:33] <alkafoo> ohyalinuz: why do you ask
[16:33] <ohyalinuz> Ambivert: they removed gnome and made some other crappy interface
[16:33] <mneptok> ohyalinuz: but ... it IS the weekend.
[16:34] <joker_rek> need help with inspird.
[16:34] <auronandace> Ambivert: i don't (good thing there's choice)
[16:34] <Guest65948> cpyou: is that in sound preferences?
[16:34] <elegido> wich torrent client do you recommend for ubuntu?
[16:34] <alkafoo> ohyalinuz: nothing you say is going to change that
[16:34] <scarleo> Lasers: Ok, I'll try it now
[16:34] <cpyou> Guest65948: You're getting video, so that's a good sign. You need to change the primary devices for both you audio input and output
[16:34] <TrueColors> um
[16:34] <TrueColors> ok i restarted
[16:34] <cpyou> Guest65948: Yep.
[16:34] <TrueColors> and now there is a ..
[16:34] <alkafoo> elegido: Deluge
[16:34] <TrueColors> 2.6.32-33-generic on my boot menu
[16:34] <mneptok> ohyalinuz: and the "Unity sucks! you suck! this is crap!" argument has be heard and re-heard. you're flogging a dead horse.
[16:34] <Lasers> !torrent | elegido
[16:34] <TrueColors> and a 2.6.32.28-generic
[16:34] <nathanel> hello. I am having an issue on the gnome-terminal unity quicklist I've created. rthe command issued for that menu is Exec=gnome-terminal --commmand "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y". When I run it after doing unity --replace, it pops a terminal, asks for sudo p/w and then just closes.. nothing going on... how can I resolve this
[16:34] <cpyou> Guest65948: Sound preferences in Gnome not Skype. Once you've made the changes, restart Skype.
[16:34] <TrueColors> which one should I boot up with?
[16:34] <ohyalinuz> elegido: transmission
[16:34] <mneptok> TrueColors: the latest
[16:34] <TrueColors> so 33
[16:35] <elegido> i want a light one
[16:35] <Ambivert> unity well whatever it looks like gnome to me
[16:35] <elegido> those are light?
[16:35] <TripleTea> rypervenche: erm.....can you tell me where exactly is the .bashrc ? /etc/bash.bashrc ?...forgive me im a linux newbie
[16:35] <Guest65948> cpyou: I am in alsa mixer thats where i need to be right?
[16:35] <Lasers> nathanel: Use GUI. I'm not sure what it's called? synaptics? software center?
[16:35] <ohyalinuz> alkafoo and mneptok they are still going to keep the new crap interface and is it called unity?
[16:35] <Sidewinder1> elegido, I prefer Vuze, formerly Azureus; it's java and a bit "heavy."
[16:35] <zewm> TripleTea, it's ~/.bashrc
[16:35] <mneptok> !notunity-#ubuntu+1 > ohyalinuz
[16:35] <elegido> not good for my netbook then
[16:35] <TripleTea> zewm: ok thank you !
[16:35] <alkafoo> ohyalinuz: until they find something else they'd like to replace it with yes
[16:36] <TrueColors> ok, ubuntu is now up to date
[16:36] <nathanel> I understand your recommendation but I rather do it through term as "dist-upgrade" ensure a FULL upgrade
[16:36] <cpyou> Guest65948: You can be there, too. BUT, you can just right-click on the volume icon on your panel, and click the preferences there.
[16:36] <alkafoo> ohyalinuz: but you can use non-Unity if you like, it's even an option in the default install
[16:36] <TrueColors> still haven't got my graphics driver, or wireless
[16:36] <elegido> thanks all
[16:36] <cpyou> TrueColors: What is it that you're trying to do?
[16:36] <mneptok> TrueColors: lsb_release -a
[16:36] <Lasers> nathanel: Make aliases for it and launch a terminal. Run that command.
[16:36] <Guest65948> cpyou: I dont see the webcam there
[16:36] <mneptok> TrueColors: Maverick or Natty? (10.10 or 11.04)?
[16:37] <nathanel> aliases?
[16:37] <TripleTea> zewm: erm....i dont see any .bashrc in ~/
[16:37] <dekennedy93> hello, i just installed a fresh copy of 11.04 and my Intel Intergrated graphics card is working, does anyone know how to install a driver for that?
[16:37] <TrueColors> o.o
[16:37] <TrueColors> 10.04
[16:37] <dekennedy93> ....is not working i meant
[16:37] <TrueColors> i installed from a 10.10 disk...
[16:37] <zewm> TripleTea, it's a hidden file
[16:37] <mneptok> TrueColors: so run System > Admin > Update Manager again
[16:37] <cpyou> Guest65948: What devices do you see there for your input?
[16:37] <nathanel> as in $TERM-UPGRADE
[16:37] <alkafoo> dekennedy93: is _not_ working?
[16:37] <TrueColors> it says there are no updates
[16:37] <alkafoo> dekennedy93: ah you said
[16:37] <zewm> TripleTea, open a terminal and type sudo gedit ~/.bashrc
[16:37] <mneptok> TrueColors: follow that guide i gave you
[16:37] <TrueColors> i did
[16:37] <TrueColors> it shows no updates
[16:38] <mneptok> TrueColors: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[16:38] <Guest65948> cpyou: It just gives me a big list of things i can select to be visible
[16:38] <cpyou> TrueColors: I'm assuming you're trying to get an ATI card working?
[16:38] <mneptok> TrueColors: read carefully, please
[16:38] <cpyou> Guest65948: Wait, are you on alsamixer?
[16:38] <TrueColors> no, cpyou ... i'm trying to get my wireless usb working
[16:38] <ohyalinuz> mneptok: he will be angry once he sees the new user interface ;)
[16:38] <TripleTea> zewm: even if its a hidden file, ls -a would show it right ? O_O
[16:38] <gallo1> hey guys how do I install wicd from a usb stick in ubuntu?
[16:39] <Lasers> nathanel: Add a line in ~/.bashrc -- alias emergeWorld='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y'
[16:39] <cpyou> TrueColors: oooh.
[16:39] <ohyalinuz> mneptok: dont suggest him to upgrade
[16:39] <Guest65948> cpyou: yeah
[16:39] <Lasers> nathanel: And save it. Start a new terminal. Try typing "emergeWorld"
[16:39] <mneptok> ohyalinuz: please stop.
[16:39] <zewm> TripleTea, Yea
[16:39] <ohyalinuz> mneptok: and my upgrade failed so i had to download the iso and burn > install
[16:39] <mneptok> ohyalinuz: Unity bashing is offtopic for this channel. /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:39] <cpyou> Guest65948: Get out of that. Just right-click on the volume icon in your panel and go to those preferences.
[16:39] <TripleTea> zewm: yes....I don't see it anywhere
[16:39] <Lasers> nathanel: You can change that to "updateWorld" or "aptUpdate" -- Whatever suits you.
[16:40] <TrueColors> mneptok, can I pm you - it's a bit... noisey in here :P
[16:40] <zewm> TripleTea, try looking in /home/<username>/
[16:40] <mneptok> TrueColors: feel free
[16:40] <gallo1> hey guys how do I install wicd from a usb stick in ubuntu? please
[16:40] <zewm> TripleTea, If it's not there then you have to create it
[16:40] <TripleTea> zewm: i only see .bashrc in /etc/bash.bashrc
[16:40] <zewm> TripleTea, It should be in your home folder for the current user
[16:41] <zewm> TripleTea, if it's not there then you have to create it
[16:41] <rypervenche> TripleTea: /home/username/.bashrc
[16:41] <nathanel> mhm... i figured.. i started one... just hadn't done that in a bit... gonna test now... thx
[16:41] <Guest65948> cpyou: when i do that it doesnt give me that option. it just goes to panel preferences. like its not even there
[16:41] <alkafoo> gallo1: have you tried the normal way?
[16:41] <TripleTea> zewm: yup it's not there....ok i will create it
[16:41] <TripleTea> thanks for the help guys
[16:41] <Lasers> nathanel: It's better than assigning a button because at least you'll see some progress going on.
[16:42] <cpyou> Guest65948: Oh. Just try left-clicking the icon then and, at the bottom, you should be able to select the preferences. My bad.
[16:42] <Gredeu> why shouldn't i run my cpu at full power ?
[16:42] <nathanel> mhm... but the command anyway calls on gnome-terminal no?.. it should then stay open right?
[16:42] <BusMaster> hi, i just installed ubuntu 11.04. I am trying to install flightgear 2.4.0 from http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/11.04/?q=flightgear but when the software center opens up, it wants to install v2.0.0 how should i install v2.4.0?
[16:43] <photon> in which directory should I usually put programs (and their files) which I compiled myself? just home?
[16:43] <luc_> i tried  installing ubuntu    and it says erase disk and install no operating system found
[16:43] <BluesKaj> gallo1,  just copy it to your /home/user folder ..what file extension does wicd use /
[16:43] <TripleTea> erm.....how do i go about making the .bashrc ?
[16:43] <zewm> TripleTea, Open a terminal window and type 'echo $SHELL'
[16:43] <zewm> TripleTea, What does it say?
[16:43] <Lasers> nathanel: No. Just open a terminal and type "emergeWorld" -- That'll do it.
[16:44] <Guest65948> cpyou: I think I got it thanks man
[16:44] <Lasers> nathanel: And if you insist on using a button (launcher) -- then you should use GUI that takes care of updates.
[16:44] <TripleTea> zewm: it says /bin/bash
[16:44] <Lasers> photon: /usr/local/bin IMO.
[16:44] <gallo1> wicd-1.7.0.tar.tar
[16:45] <nathanel> mhm.. too bad :(, im used to doing it through gnome-term
[16:45] <nathanel> any way to ensure full  dist-upgrade through a switch for update-manager?
[16:45] <Lasers> photon: ~/bin could work -- but that's for scripts mostly.
[16:46] <t0ken> hi folks.  Ubuntu 11, using default desktop.  What's the thing that causes windows to maximize when they get put close to an edge of the screen?  I wanna kill it...kill it with fire
[16:46] <photon> Lasers: /usr/local/bin sounds what I was looking for, thanks.
[16:46] <gallo1> BluesKaj  wicd-1.7.0.tar.tar
[16:46] <luc_> any help on installing ubuntu
[16:46] <Lasers> nathanel: Dunno. I never used GUI-update-manager. I just fire up a terminal and use an alias that'll trigger the said commands.
[16:46] <Lasers> photon: No problem. /opt is the other option too.
[16:47] <nathanel> mhm.. basically the way i do it but shorter :), i like.. I'll keep the alias until i figure how to trigger a full upgrade through unity'S list. Thanks for the help :)
[16:47] <der>  hi, using 10.10 and latest moonlight-plugin-mozilla but can't see vids on http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/video/index.html
[16:47] <der> any suggestions?
[16:48] <zewm> TripleTea, in a terminal type 'cd ~ && touch .bashrc && chmod 744 .bashrc'
[16:48] <zewm> TripleTea, then just edit it how you like
[16:48] <auronandace> der: complain to them for picking silverlight
[16:49] <TripleTea> zewm: erm.....actually what do i need to have to run the .bashrc properly ?
[16:49] <Lasers> nathanel: You can use aliases for hundred things. It's kinda easier. Make one for "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and name it "source-update" or something. :)
[16:49] <BluesKaj> ok gallo1 open a terminal install unp , the run,  unp wicd-1.7.0.tar.tar
[16:49] <TripleTea> zewm: in order to run this http://pastebin.com/zXcXFZC1
[16:49] <nathanel> great... apparently the switch on update-manager is --dist-upgrade
[16:49] <gallo1> BluesKaj thnx
[16:50] <zewm> TripleTea, .bashrc is essentially a text file. You just open it and add those commands
[16:50] <zewm> TripleTea, you can edit it with gedit or vi
[16:50] <xangua> der moonlight doesn't support al silverlight features
[16:50] <TripleTea> zewm: so nothing else ? i mean except for those export commands ?
[16:50] <zewm> TripleTea, yea, then save it, log out and log back in
[16:50] <BusMaster> hi, i just installed ubuntu 11.04. I am trying to install flightgear 2.4.0 from http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/11.04/?q=flightgear but when the software center opens up, it wants to install v2.0.0 how should i install v2.4.0?
[16:50] <TripleTea> zewm: ok ill try it
[16:51] <TripleTea> zewm: thanks for guiding me !
[16:51] <xangua> BusMaster: sudo apt-get update and try again
[16:51] <zewm> BusMaster, have you added the playdeb repository?
[16:51] <BusMaster> zewm, yes
[16:51] <zewm> BusMaster, did you run apt-get update?
[16:51] <BusMaster> zewm, no.. doing so now
[16:51] <phitech> I'm having trouble setting up a basic postfix server for SMTP.  It seems to be working correctly on the local machine, but cannot connect from a remote machine on the same network.  In the postfix configuration I set up the network blocks to respond to my local IPs (10.66.0.0/24).  Anyone have any ideas for me?
[16:51] <zewm> Yea you have to update apt once you add new repositories
[16:52] <zewm> try to download it again after you've updated apt
[16:53] <gallo1> BluesKaj, : ( part of the reason I was installing wicd, I gave up trying to connect using iwconfig wlan0 essid "<name_of_router>" key "<encryption_key>"
[16:53] <luc_> any help on installing ubuntu to fix windows freezing
[16:54] <awsoonn> hi all, quick one here I hope: i want to do a global search and replace via CLI via sed but it doesn't work quite right. I use sed -i 's/foo/bar/g' file which works for words with spaces on both side of the search argument, but not if what I'm searching for is in (foo). help?
[16:55] <BusMaster> zewm, xangua thanks. i did apt-get update and it now seems to be installing v2.4.0
[16:55] <t0ken> awsoonn: are you trying to change the name of the file or contents in the file?
[16:55] <gallo1> BluesKaj, no connection atm so can install unp
[16:55] <zewm> BusMaster, np
[16:55] <awsoonn> t0ken: contents
[16:55] <aron_> cpyou: It still isnt working. it says it appears you have pulse audio running
[16:55] <alkafoo> luc_: http://www.sysresccd.org/
[16:55] <alkafoo> luc_: ##windows
[16:55] <mkanyicy> awsoonn: what do you mean by 'spaces on both side of the search argument'?
[16:56] <gallo1> can it be un pack to a usb and intalled from usb?
[16:57] <binarycodes> awsoonn: how exactly are you running it?
[16:57] <t0ken> awsoonn: http://my.boxonthe.net/pb/?7
[16:57] <t0ken> seems to work for me
[16:57] <awsoonn> sed -i 's/foo/bar/g' on "hi foo (foo) will leave me with "hi bar (foo)" but I wanted "hi bar (bar)"
[16:57] <t0ken> no matter where the 'foo' is
[16:57] <awsoonn> sed -i 's/S[23].0/b_flash/g' Zone_1.L5X
[16:58] <mkanyicy> awsoonn: I see what you mean
[16:58] <awsoonn> and when I run it it does not change any instances of (S[23].0) :9
[16:58] <mkanyicy> awsoonn: no, I dont see it
[16:59] <t0ken> hi folks.  Ubuntu 11, using default desktop.  What's the thing that causes windows to maximize when they get put close to an edge of the screen?  I wanna kill it...kill it with fire
[16:59] <awsoonn> let me prepare a pastebin for you
[16:59] <binarycodes> awsoonn: you are trying to match '.' literally or any char?
[16:59] <mkanyicy> it works on me, awsoonn
[16:59] <mcl0vin> howdy folks
[16:59] <awsoonn> ... litterally
[16:59] <binarycodes> \.
[16:59] <TripleTea> anyone got Japanese Anthy(ibus) to work with skype 2.2 ??
[16:59] <mcl0vin> can someone please help me get lm-sensors to work
[17:00] <awsoonn> *nods* now I feel silly.... :P thanks
[17:00] <mcl0vin> !detect-sensors
[17:00] <markos> :D
[17:00] <TripleTea> rypervenche: are you there ? I have tried the method that you suggested but it didn't work....
[17:02] <awsoonn> t0ken: "window snap" and I think its in compiz settigns
[17:02] <iceroot> mcl0vin: whats the exact issue?
[17:04] <TrueColors> How do you stop ubuntu from going ... well idle and bringing up the login screen?
[17:04] <binarycodes> turn of the screensaver
[17:04] <zewm> TrueColors, change your screensaver settings to allow a longer idle time
[17:04] <jqke> disable the screen saver ?
[17:04] <TrueColors> Where do I change the settings for that?
[17:04] <t0ken> ahHa!  It was 'Grid'
[17:05] <alkafoo> TrueColors: xscreensaver-demo, IIRC, or it'll be in the prefs menu somewhere
[17:06] <TrueColors> ah yeah
[17:06] <TrueColors> disabled it :)
[17:06] <TrueColors> it was on 1 minute... ouch :P
[17:06] <binarycodes> make it 1 sec :P
[17:06] <TrueColors> hell no lol
[17:06] <TrueColors> that'll be irritating
[17:07] <binarycodes> iirc you cant actually do that :P
[17:09] <Guest77734> Hi, I want to remote by reverse into someone else's computer, my ports are open. What do I do next.?
[17:09] <iceroot> Guest77734: why not just use normal ssh?
[17:09] <cfedde> their machine has to have some kind of listener.
[17:10] <Guest77734> the port on the other side cannot be opened.
[17:10] <iceroot> Guest77734: teamviewer
[17:10] <julie101010> is there a way to place the dock on the right of the screen?
[17:10] <Guest77734> iceroot, teamviewer works on linux?
[17:10] <calmpitbull> dont know if this i the right channel but can u add all backtrack tools to ubuntu
[17:10] <cfedde> Guest77734: you need colusion with the user on the other side.
[17:11] <iceroot> Guest77734: yes
[17:11] <IdleOne> Guest77734: yes, teamviewer has a linux client
[17:11] <Guest77734> ok wonder ful
[17:11] <Guest77734> :D
[17:11] <Guest77734> thank you
[17:11] <iceroot> Guest77734: its using wine, there is no nativ client
[17:11] <mcl0vin> iceroot: i can't get it to worl
[17:11] <iceroot> mcl0vin: error message?
[17:11] <ohyalinux> lol wine~
[17:11] <calmpitbull> Guest77734: i use teamviewer all the time in ubuntu
[17:12] <kernelpanicker> can I install google earth from apt-get?
[17:12] <ohyalinux> calmpitbull: use vnc instead ;)
[17:12] <iceroot> mcl0vin: install lm-sensors, run "sudo sensors-detect" and then use "sensors"
[17:13] <mcl0vin> iceroot: i already installed it
[17:13] <calmpitbull> dont know if this i the right channel but can u add all backtrack tools to ubuntu
[17:13] <alkafoo> kernelpanicker: apt-cache search earth
[17:13] <mcl0vin> 1 sec i will get u the error from sensors-detect
[17:13] <kernelpanicker> alkafoo: thx
[17:14] <mcl0vin> !paste
[17:14] <mcl0vin> !pastebin
[17:14] <mcl0vin> iceroot: can i pm u the error
[17:14] <iceroot> !paste | mcl0vin
[17:15] <Jordan_U> mcl0vin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[17:15] <fruitbag> Hey.
[17:15] <mcl0vin> iceroot: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/687033/
[17:16] <fruitbag> Guys, I want to execute a shell script and need authentication, but don't know what password sudo expects. I've tried the password that I've set and it fails to authenticate.
[17:17] <ikonia> fruitbag: the password it expects is the password of the user running sudo
[17:17] <fruitbag> You must excuse my ignorance, guys. Is this the password I use to log in?
[17:18] <t0ken> fruitbag: yes
[17:18] <ikonia> fruitbag: it is the password of the user running sudo, if that is your login user, then yes
[17:18] <fruitbag> That password did not work.
[17:18] <ikonia> explain does not work
[17:18] <ikonia> what is the error ?
[17:18] <fruitbag> I get an authentication failure.
[17:18] <fruitbag> It's not so much as an error.
[17:19] <TripleTea> can anyone enlighten me on how to add a user into the sudoers list ?
[17:19] <ikonia> run this outside the script
[17:19] <ikonia> fruitbag: try "sudo ls"
[17:19] <ikonia> fruitbag: does it take your password ?
[17:20] <fruitbag> There's a difference. When I run su, I am just asked for a password, but when running 'sudo ls' I am asked for 'password for navid'.
[17:20] <IdleOne> !adduser | TripleTea
[17:20] <ubott2> TripleTea: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[17:20] <ikonia> fruitbag: you're not running su - you're running sudo
[17:21] <fruitbag> I see.
[17:21] <ikonia> fruitbag: sudo and su are totally different things
[17:21] <photon> In which folder do the scripts/launchers for the application menu reside?
[17:21] <fruitbag> Right.
[17:21] <ikonia> fruitbag: you should not be able to su as there is no root password in ubuntu, however sudo should work fine
[17:21] <TripleTea> IdleOne: i have created a new user, but whenever i use sudo, it says im not in the sudoers list
[17:21] <fruitbag> I'll try that.
[17:21] <alkafoo> presumably sudo passwd would create one, however
[17:22] <ikonia> alkafoo: that is not advised and we don't appreciate it being recommended
[17:22] <t0ken> sudo /bin/bash
[17:22] <edbian> TripleTea: add that user to the admin group (or to the sudoers file manually, visudo -f /etc/sudoers)
[17:22] <alkafoo> glad I didn't recommend it, then
[17:22] <TripleTea> edbian: thank you
[17:22] <IdleOne> TripleTea: that new user needs to be added to the admin group
[17:23] <julie101010> is there a way to place the dock on the right of the screen?
[17:23] <fruitbag> I'm actually trying to install Quake 3 Arena demo.
[17:24] <alkafoo> julie101010: for Unity?
[17:24] <julie101010> yes
[17:24] <IdleOne> no
[17:24] <julie101010> oh well
[17:25] <TrueColors> yeah imo it would be better on the right.
[17:26] <uoou> scrollbars are on the right
[17:26] <fruitbag> "bash: ./linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh: Permission denied"
[17:26] <fruitbag> Even though I ran it as root.
[17:26] <uoou> it would be annoying if it popped out every time you tried to scroll
[17:26] <uoou> (although yeah, no one uses scrollbars anymore)
[17:26] <ikonia> fruitbag: how did you run it as root ?
[17:26] <TrueColors> good point. I still use scrollbars but not as much
[17:26] <fruitbag> I entered '/sudo /bin/bash'.
[17:26] <uoou> did you mark it executable, fruitbag?
[17:27] <ikonia> fruitbag: why are you just not using sudo as I told you ?
[17:28] <fruitbag> ikonia, how?
[17:28] <TrueColors> upgrading to 10.10 takes longer than bloody windows takes to install
[17:28] <ikonia> fruitbag: "sudo $command" where command is the name of the command or file you want to run
[17:28] <alkafoo> TrueColors: and?
[17:28] <swim> I cannot change permissions on my /var/www..  i've used lamp on ubuntu for years, never had this happen before
[17:29] <SealedWithAKiss> I was playing about with Compiz when suddenly the bar at the top of my applications vanished. Any idea how I get it back? The bar meaning, minimize, close etc.
[17:29] <TrueColors> 10.04 took like.. 30 minutes, if that... to install. xD
[17:29] <alkafoo> TrueColors: flying a kite takes longer than walking a dog
[17:29] <ikonia> TrueColors: your downloading software over the interent, what do you expect
[17:29] <TrueColors> I've downloaded the packages, it's just installing the upgrades
[17:29] <TrueColors> I'm assuming that doesn't need internet as it's all downloaded... right?
[17:30] <ikonia> TrueColors: if it's all downloaded, no
[17:30] <fruitbag> 'sudo linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh'
[17:30] <ikonia> fruitbag: you need to be in the same directory as it
[17:31] <Jordan_U> TrueColors: Why would it all the upgrades be downloaded if you are doing a fresh install?
[17:31] <TrueColors> well usually the installation process comes after the download process
[17:31] <fruitbag> 'sudo: linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh: command not found'
[17:31] <fruitbag> I am in the same directory.
[17:31] <TrueColors> it's downloaded all the packages and currently it's on "Installing the upgrades" ... so.. it must all be downloaded
[17:31] <TrueColors> (plus when I had a breif disconnection not long ago - it carried on)
[17:31] <ThinkT510> fruitbag: its a script: sudo ./blah
[17:32] <quiescens> would need ./ to run something in the current directory directly, and then the next question will be that it still complains about permissions because it doesn't have execute set
[17:32] <uoou> fruitbag, do: chmod +x  linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh
[17:32] <fruitbag> ThinkT510, I've tried that too. I get the same message.
[17:32] <ThinkT510> fruitbag: make sure you've chmod + x the file first
[17:32] <uoou> and then: sudo ./ linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh
[17:32] <fruitbag> Alright.
[17:32] <uoou> (errant space in there, delete that)
[17:33] <uoou> so: sudo ./linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh
[17:33]  * quiescens pats ubottu 
[17:34] <fruitbag> Is this version of Quake 3 even compatible with Xubuntu?
[17:34] <fruitbag> A new log window came up with alot of 'no such file' messages.
[17:34] <uoou> it'll run if its dependencies are satisfied
[17:35] <idefix> what is the best browser there is?
[17:35] <uoou> ok, you need to find out what libraries and stuff it requires
[17:35] <Jordan_U> TrueColors: Sorry, I misunderstood and thought you were talking about the feature in recent releases of Ubuntu that updates are installed during the initial install process if internet is available.
[17:35] <BlouBlou> !best
[17:36] <Shogoot> Hi people. Im trying ot find out how i can list the storages availables on a remote server using /bin/bash...  anyoone know the correct command? having a hard time finding it out on google. :)
[17:36] <dropson> if NSFv4 suddenly crashes, is there a way to ensure it is always running / restarted if it hangs / start if it is stopped?
[17:36] <alkafoo> actually there are quite frequently obvious bests =) but browsers are running neck and neck lately
[17:36] <mcl0vin> iceroot: any idea
[17:37] <alkafoo> idefix: firefox and chromium and their derivatives are all fine
[17:37] <mkanyicy> Shogoot: 'df'
[17:37] <dropson> Shogoot: "ls -la" or "df"
[17:37] <idefix> alkafoo what about netscape?
[17:37] <uoou> firefox is netscape
[17:37] <Shogoot> thanks, gonna check it out
[17:37] <idefix> what is IE then?
[17:37] <idefix> uoou
[17:37] <uoou> wine iexplore
[17:37] <julie101010> Shogoot, you can't get the storage information remotely
[17:37] <alkafoo> IE has its own engine
[17:37] <fruitbag> Guys, how does mkdir exactly work? In what way is a new directory created?
[17:38] <idefix> I remember using netscape in the 90s, it was a very special feeling
[17:38] <iceroot> fruitbag: ?
[17:38] <jrib> fruitbag: read its source code...
[17:38] <fruitbag> My knowledge of C is not that good to be able to understand it, jrib.
[17:38] <jrib> fruitbag: then I don't understand what you hope for as an answer
[17:38] <fruitbag> Never mind.
[17:38] <ruffner7> fruitbag: or just man mkdir
[17:38] <julie101010> fruitbag, a file is created in the inode table and inserted in the parent directory file
[17:39] <swim> why don't ubuntu changes the permissions of a directory when using root priviledges?
[17:39] <jrib> fruitbag: is there a reason other than curiosity that you want to know?
[17:39] <fruitbag> Pure curiosity.
[17:39] <jrib> swim: on what filesystem?
[17:39] <mkanyicy> swim:  you are not clear
[17:40] <zastaph> there's not difference from apt-get install and aptitude install right?
[17:40] <Shogoot> julie101010, seems i can. im authenticated http://pastebin.com/aFLH53Nh
[17:40] <safire> hey guys, dhclient3 is giving no output
[17:40] <jrib> zastaph: there is
[17:40] <iceroot> safire: what command you used?
[17:40] <safire> i'm running dhclient eth1
[17:40] <iceroot> safire: sudo dhclient3 eth0
[17:40] <zastaph> jrib, which
[17:40] <safire> yes i'm doing that
[17:40] <julie101010> Shogoot, those are all local filesystems
[17:41] <jrib> zastaph: for one, aptitude keeps track of what packages were installed automatically vs which were explicitly requested to be installed in a different way
[17:41] <bonhoffer> how could i use locate to find all *.log files updated in the last day?
[17:41] <zastaph> jrib, so aptitude is recommended over apt-get ?
[17:41] <Shogoot> julie101010, dont think so, im on Win7
[17:41] <jrib> zastaph: no
[17:41] <iceroot> bonhoffer: use find
[17:42] <bonhoffer> iceroot: gotit
[17:42] <julie101010> Shogoot, I suppose I should try to guess that your using a remote session such as telnet or ssh?
[17:42] <zastaph> jrib, i always do aptitude search before apt-get install
[17:42] <Shogoot> julie101010, and i know i got sda1, sda2 and sda3 on my machine
[17:42] <jrib> zastaph: that's fine
[17:42] <zastaph> ok
[17:42] <Shogoot> julie101010, yes. :) i guess that makes the difference
[17:42] <jrib> zastaph: both are good ways to install.  I would just suggest you choose one and stick to it for installing and removing
[17:42] <julie101010> Shogoot, then the disks are local to your session
[17:42] <Skummel> zastaph apt-cache search also works.
[17:42] <GeekyAdam> whats the easiest way to mount a linux partition on a server on a windows machine? should i just use smb?
[17:42] <Levit> привет
[17:43] <mkanyicy> julie101010: you like the word 'local', huh
[17:43] <julie101010> :P
[17:43] <iceroot> GeekyAdam: yes, samba
[17:43] <iceroot> !samba | GeekyAdam
[17:44] <safire> sorry, can anyone help with my dhclient3 problem?
[17:44] <alkafoo> GeekyAdam: a remote partition?
[17:44] <w0_> hi.  besides the 24 standard libs, where did all the other .h files in /usr/include come from? did they come with ubuntu?
[17:45] <GeekyAdam> alkafoo: server is on local network (but considering doing same for a couple-few remote servers as well
[17:45] <mkanyicy> GeekyAdam: then on windows you create a mapped drive
[17:45] <julie101010> GeekyAdam, other than getting a commercial nfs client for windows, you don't have much choice
[17:45] <GeekyAdam> julie101010 mkanyicy right right, thanks
[17:46] <alkafoo> cifs/samba is going to be your best long term choice
[17:46] <alkafoo> but you could use sshfs and various other approaches
[17:46] <mkanyicy> !who | alkafoo
[17:46] <Guest10821> Hi all! how can i scroll up on tty1? ive had an output which exceeded the given Lines...?
[17:46] <quiescens> shift pageup
[17:46] <alkafoo> mkanyicy: already did
[17:47] <mkanyicy> i know, alkafoo
[17:47] <alkafoo> didn't seem like you did...
[17:47] <alkafoo> Guest10821: might check out the program 'screen' sometime, too, very useful
[17:47] <beached> can anyone recommend a good graphics editor similar to Photoshop. Gimp sucks
[17:48] <julie101010> Guest10821, or learn to pipe things to less
[17:48] <trism> w0_: dpkg -S /path/to/file; will tell you which package installed the given file (generally)
[17:48] <Guest10821> alkafoo: it might be.. but i need to scroll up the output i was given by nmap now
[17:48] <mkanyicy> beached: Gimp
[17:48] <uoou> beached, stick with Gimp, it's no worse than PS, just different. Or use PS via Wine. There's nothing else witht he same kinda power
[17:48] <Guest10821> beached: Photoshop.
[17:48] <quiescens> heh
[17:49] <w0_> trism: hey cool.  thanks!! =)
[17:49] <Guest10821> julie101010: yeah but ive some important output now which im eager to see
[17:49] <alkafoo> beached: there are hacks for making GIMP more like Photoshop, but if you're going to use a new tool, you should just learn how to use it the way it was meant to be used
[17:49] <quiescens> Guest10821: shift pageup
[17:49] <alkafoo> beached: you might like krita, though... but it's a KDE app
[17:50] <Guest10821> quiescens: wouldnt work..
[17:50] <julie101010> alkafoo, gimp is extremely different from Photoshop and not very pleasant to use for those who know Photoshop
[17:50] <Guest16004> umm k
[17:50] <Guest16004> lol
[17:50] <Guest16004> new to this
[17:50] <alkafoo> julie101010: you can say that about anything new to someone
 alkafoo, gimp is extremely different from Photoshop and not very pleasant to use for those who know Photoshop
[17:51] <mang0> true
[17:51] <alkafoo> Guest16004: if the output is still coming it might not work, you might have to pause the output first
[17:51] <quiescens> Guest10821: well that's all you've got to try to scroll back on a console terminal unless you were already using screen or piping the output to less
[17:51] <beached> anything similar to illustrator?
[17:51] <mkanyicy> julie101010: try making Photoshop look like Gimp because its also unpleasant to use if you know gimp
[17:51] <beached> or would that be gimp too
[17:51] <quiescens> wrong guest, i think
[17:51] <alkafoo> beached: inkscape
[17:51] <uoou> beached, Inkscape is closest
[17:51] <beached> ok
[17:51] <quiescens> you're trying to talk to number 10821, not 16004
[17:52] <Guest10821> quiescens: thats kinda awkward..
[17:52] <beached> i can aquire via apt get correct?
[17:52] <uoou> yes
[17:52] <alkafoo> beached: undoubtedly
[17:52] <uoou> sudo apt-get install inskscape
[17:52] <beached> ty
[17:52] <Guest16004> and i have probally a reallly newb question but im attemptin to download a program but its in a dos/windows exe any way to open it and get it to run
[17:53] <uoou> Guest16004, Wine or Dosbox, depending how old it is
[17:53] <beached> Guest16004, have wine installed, make it as executable and pray
[17:53] <Lasers> Guest16004: What program?
[17:53] <alkafoo> ^
[17:53] <uoou> or a virtual machine of course
[17:53] <beached> or what uoou said
[17:53] <quiescens> Guest10821: as, alkafoo was trying to say, i think, you will have to pause the output if your command is still running, in order to be able to scroll back
[17:53] <Guest16004> its a java program
[17:54] <uoou> see if you can find a pure java version then, not one wrapped up as an exe
[17:54] <Lasers> Guest16004: Minecraft?
[17:54] <uoou> but yeah - tell us what program and someone might have an alternative you're happy with
[17:54] <alkafoo> Guest16004: which java program
[17:54] <quiescens> Guest10821: ctrl-s should pause and ctrl-q can unpause when you're done if that is the problem
[17:54] <Guest10821> quiescens: i see... thanks
[17:54] <claudiuvlad> hi, is there an Oneiric channel ?
[17:54] <Lasers> !ubuntu+1 | claudiuvlad
[17:54] <claudiuvlad> oh, thanks !
[17:55] <Guest16004> ubottu its a bot program for a browser based game
[17:55] <quiescens> Guest10821: but otherwise, if shift-pageup isn't working, you're really out of options unless you prepared something beforehand with less/screen/etc
[17:56] <uoou> Guest16004, for legitimate use?
[17:56] <root> hello peoples
[17:56] <Guest10821> quiescens: thx!
[17:57] <ubuntu_> ola
[17:58] <corecode> hi
[17:59] <corecode> i'm trying to install a lenovo laptop with gpt/uefi
[17:59] <corecode> but there is sparse information out there
[17:59] <corecode> anybody have pointers?
[18:00] <swim> I cannot get Ubuntu to change the directory permissions of my /var/www.. i've tried nautilus as root and terminal chmod, will not apply to enclosed folders
[18:01] <corecode> chmod -R
[18:01] <Jordan_U> corecode: Why do you want to use EFI. Does it not have an option for BIOS?
[18:01] <dageriv> http://pastebin.com/xf1qxqXq why am i getting segmantation fault here?
[18:01] <swim> corecode, that's exactly what i did
[18:01] <corecode> Jordan_U: yes, but i want to try uefi
[18:01] <Guest16004> no
[18:01] <Guest16004> no
[18:01] <swim> 777
[18:01] <corecode> 777 is really bad
[18:02] <corecode> generally
[18:02] <swim> i know, i'm desperate
[18:02] <chini> I was installing globus toolkit on ubuntu 11 and I got an error saying unable to compile with SSL. please help me with it.
[18:02] <corecode> swim: what do you type exactly?
[18:02] <quiescens> swim: maybe you could start with what you're trying to do, rather than how you're trying to do it
[18:02] <Jordan_U> corecode: The Ubuntu install images contain grub-efi. I'm not sure if when booted via EFI ubiquity (Ubuntu's installer) knows to install grub-efi rather than grub-pc, but if it doesn't you can just install grub-efi manually.
[18:03] <corecode> Jordan_U: i'm perfectly fine to do the installation manually
[18:03] <Jordan_U> corecode: Be prepared for graphics drivers to not work properly when booted via EFI.
[18:03] <corecode> Jordan_U: oh?
[18:03] <corecode> how do i find out?
[18:03] <Jordan_U> corecode: Yes. Most current linux graphics drivers depend on BIOS hooks.
[18:03] <corecode> yea
[18:03] <swim> quiescens, i just want to change my permissions for /var/www and all enclosed folders to show user as owner and have unlimited access..  just like i've done the hundreds of times before via file browser running as root
[18:04] <ProphetZ> Is there any way to get graphics acceleration (DirectX, OpenGL etc) working in a virtual machine under Ubuntu?
[18:04] <corecode> swim: maybe it is just a symlink?
[18:04] <swim> what is that?
[18:04] <Jordan_U> ProphetZ: Yes. Virtualbox has an option for 3D accelleration.
[18:04] <Shogoot> Where does linux usually locate the logs reporting security errors? like poeple trying to use sudo when not in sudoers file? /var/log/messages/somefile.txt?
[18:04] <corecode> swim: tell us the output of stat /var/www
[18:05] <quiescens> Shogoot: probably /var/log/auth.*
[18:05] <swim>   File: `/var/www'
[18:05] <swim>   Size: 4096      	Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   directory
[18:05] <swim> Device: 801h/2049d	Inode: 805742      Links: 7
[18:05] <swim> Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx)  Uid: ( 1000/    swim)   Gid: ( 1000/    swim)
[18:05] <swim> Access: 2011-09-11 08:57:59.505604097 -0900
[18:05] <swim> Modify: 2011-09-11 08:14:13.843365712 -0900
[18:05] <swim> Change: 2011-09-11 08:57:58.822481847 -0900
[18:05] <FloodBot1> swim: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:05] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | swim
[18:05] <swim> sorry
[18:06] <corecode> swim: so what happens if you say chmod -R 777 /var/www?
[18:06] <ProphetZ> Oy, I've been trying to do it with Virtual Machine Manager and it only gives a handful of Video devices to add, all with 9mb video memory...
[18:06] <corecode> Jordan_U: assuming i am prepared to take this risk, any ideas how i proceed to partition the hard drive with gpt?
[18:07] <swim> corecode, that's what I had done, it just started new line, like as if it had worked
[18:07] <chini> I was installing globus toolkit on ubuntu 11 and I got an error saying unable to compile with SSL. please help me with it.
[18:07] <corecode> swim: then it worked
[18:07] <corecode> chini: insufficient information
[18:07] <swim> But, root still owns all the files and I have to open the files with applications running as root
[18:07] <corecode> you just changed the mode
[18:07] <corecode> not the owner
[18:08] <corecode> but you chould be able to write to them as user
[18:08] <swim> okay, lemme give it another shot.  thanks..
[18:08] <lightcatcher> i have GRUB2 as my primary bootloader (dualbooting win7 and debian), and I'm trying to install ubuntu-server from a flash drive. I'm getting BOOTMGR is missing, which is a windows error. could this be because the flash drive is NTFS?
[18:09] <chini> corecode: tell me how i can give you more info
[18:09] <corecode> chini: show the exact error message
[18:09] <swim> corecode, thanks, this time it read out all the files it was changing the permissions of..  i bet that one worked
[18:10] <chini> corecode: "configure: error: Unable to compile with SSL"
[18:10] <mneptok> !info libssl-dev
[18:10] <mneptok> chini: ^^^^
[18:10] <claudiuvlad> is there a log for the logging in and loading desktop process ?
[18:10] <claudiuvlad> some things are crashing around every time I log in
[18:11] <chini> mneptok: thank you
[18:12] <claudiuvlad> there si so much silence on #ubuntu+1
[18:13] <kernelpanicker> yes there is
[18:13] <ipv6jesus> How can I determine what OS I am running from a terminal?
[18:13] <claudiuvlad> is there  a log file for desktop sessions ? because there are things crashing all around me
[18:13] <mneptok> chini: np np
[18:14] <mneptok> ipv6jesus: lsb_release -a && uname -a
[18:14] <trism> claudiuvlad: ~/.xsession-errors sometimes has useful information
[18:14] <claudiuvlad> oh, le me see
[18:14] <ipv6jesus> mneptok: Thank you, kind sir!
[18:15] <claudiuvlad> trism, thank you a lot
[18:15] <claudiuvlad> trism: thank you a lot
[18:15] <luc_> hi can anybody help me i nee to reinstall windows but first can i install ubuntu to move files and save them
[18:15] <chini> mneptok: I was guessing there must be separate developer packages didn't know how they were named. i had searched openssl headers; but in vain.
[18:16] <ssokolow> I'm at my aunt's house right now and she uses "Add a wireless device" in the Windows 7 Network panel to authorize PCs for WiFi access. Given that the router is in an awkward place to connect to via CAT-5 for prolonged use, is there a way I can get a Lubuntu laptop to show up in the "Media Devices" list like the rest of the PCs in the house?
[18:18] <mneptok> chini: devel libraries usually have the same name as userspace, with the -dev tacked on.
[18:18] <luc_> any one
[18:18] <BarkingFish> !info openssl-dev
[18:18] <kernelpanicker> I just installed google earth with apt-get, but it hasn't shown up in the gnome menus... how can I find the app?
[18:19] <Levit> anybody see me now??
[18:19] <chini> mneptok: ah
[18:19] <Shogoot> So, wtmp ...... its says on a site im reading that : Log of all users who have logged into and out of the system. The last command can be used to access a human readable form of this file. It also lists every connection and run-level change.  Anyone that can help me witht he right command to do this? that is make a outpring of the wtmp.log in human readable form?
[18:19] <Shogoot> wops
[18:19] <mneptok> chini: and "apt-cache search $NAME" is something you'll learn to love :)
[18:21] <TrueColors> what kind of languages are built into 11.04?
[18:21] <TrueColors> Like php, python etc
[18:21] <G00053> fglrx, give me 11.9 of give me death!
[18:22] <BluesKaj> kernelpanicker, you probly just installed the installer package..look in your /home/user for GE , you jave to build the package from that
[18:22] <BluesKaj> have
[18:25] <kernelpanicker> BluesKaj: cool
[18:26] <chini> mneptok: :)
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> TrueColors: i guess you need apache in order to use php
[18:28] <kernelpanicker> Another question... my friend's laptop keyboard has frozen with ubuntu 10.10... any suggestions about how to troubleshoot it?
[18:29] <BarkingFish> kernelpanicker, that one goes in #ubuntu+1 :)
[18:29] <BarkingFish> sorry, no it doesn't
[18:29] <Flannel> TrueColors: I think python may be the only scripting language (besides bash) installed by default.
[18:29] <quiescens> or ubuntu-1?
[18:29] <BarkingFish> apologies
[18:29] <Zoffix_> Hey, does anyone know how to make PiTiVi stop creating wide-screen videos? My vid is in 4:3 ratio, and after two conversions I need to do, I end up with a small square in the middle of black screen, thanks to PiTiVi always adding black bars to make it wide-screen. Any help?
[18:29] <BarkingFish> quiescens, I noticed the mistake :)  Sorry all.
[18:29] <quiescens> Flannel: perl, the ever present perl
[18:30]  * Zoffix_ waves to Flannel 
[18:31] <kernelpanicker> BarkingFish: OK
[18:31] <Flannel> quiescens: Oh, perl is installed by default, alright.
[18:31] <Flannel> Howdy Zoffix_
[18:31] <TrueColors> so perl and python?
[18:32] <safire> guys, /etc/init.d/networking isn't getting me networked with dhcp
[18:32] <Flannel> TrueColors: and bash.  If you're looking for something in particular, see if it's here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.manifest
[18:32] <safire> dhclient is timing out, no output
[18:33] <safire> dhclient3 eth0 as root
[18:33] <safire> I'm not sure if my routing table is correct
[18:33] <luc_> trying to install ubuntu and cannot install to a harddriveneed to partition it some how
[18:33] <quiescens> TrueColors: and you can probably install whichever you want pretty easily unless there is some particular reason you need to use something that is installed by default?
[18:34] <TrueColors> na I was just curious.
[18:34] <TrueColors> I cannot get Perl and Python to work with my hostgator host even though it's apparently supported.
[18:34] <TrueColors> Xampp does... perl I think
[18:34] <TrueColors> so it's good to be able to use perl and python :P
[18:35] <TrueColors> but I'm more into php but xampp has that anyway
[18:35] <mneptok> TrueColors: you on wireless?
[18:35] <TrueColors> wireless for laptop. xD
[18:35] <TrueColors> Still installing 11.04
[18:35] <TrueColors> 34 minutes remaining
[18:35] <mneptok> k
[18:35]  * mneptok heads out for a motorcycle ride
[18:35] <safire> can anyone help me out
[18:35] <safire> ?
[18:36] <luc_> can anybody help me on installing ubuntu
[18:36] <TrueColors> Whats the problem luc_ ?
[18:36] <TrueColors> I had problems like.. unable to find medium containig live file systems
[18:36] <flintstone> Guys, i want to install AVG for linux. Is it the "linux server edition"  that I should download?
[18:36] <TrueColors> also unable to detect hard drive in general
[18:37] <nick> need some help
[18:37] <luc_> imtrying to install to my harddrive to save my files says no root system found
[18:37] <TrueColors> flinstone: http://free.avg.com/gb-en/download.prd-alf
[18:37] <TrueColors> perhaps that?
[18:37] <SpiderFred> hi
[18:38] <Guest19318> how can i run a mine craft sever in this OS
[18:38] <flintstone> @TrueColors > thanks for your help :)
[18:38] <flintstone> Have a good evening!
[18:38] <TrueColors> hmm I've not had that issue, luc_ ... to fix my issues, I had to bring up the boot menu (rather than the boot device order) which ... sorted it out.
[18:38] <Guest19318> without all the SSH PuTTY
[18:38] <alkafoo> luc_: probably want to back up your files before installing over them
[18:38] <tensorpudding> Guest19318: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Linux_Instructions
[18:39] <luc_> TrueColors, i want to just install ubuntu on my second drive and wipe out my first
[18:40] <TrueColors> I'm assuming it's not partitioned in windows, it's just.. .free space?
[18:40] <alkafoo> luc_: what says no root system found, the install image you booted?
[18:41] <luc_> alkafoo, can i just install ubuntu to my 2nd drive where all my torrents are and wipe out windows on my 1st drive
[18:42] <luc_> alkafoo, trying to install ubuntu to harddrive stuck on allocate drive space
[18:43] <antid> any guide on partitioning disk before/during the installation?
[18:44] <Explodingpiglets> I need a terminal command to kill the update manager
[18:44] <alkafoo> luc_: you can, you can also copy your torrents to the first drive first, and wipe out nothing when you install to the second
[18:44] <zelozelos> Explodingpiglets, try killall term(then hit tab for autofill)
[18:45] <alkafoo> antid: doesn't really matter if it's not for a server and if you have a backup system in place
[18:45] <zelozelos> Explodingpiglets, i mean killall update(tab)
[18:45] <Explodingpiglets> I want to kill the update manager, not the terminal
[18:45] <legija> Can anyone help me?
[18:45] <Explodingpiglets> ok
[18:45] <alkafoo> Explodingpiglets: pgrep -l update, you might get lucky and find it
[18:45] <alkafoo> legija: with what?
[18:46] <borysiatko> hello everyone :)
[18:46] <Explodingpiglets> ok thanks
[18:46] <zelozelos> Explodingpiglets, also killall -l
[18:46] <luc_> alkafoo, the first drive has windows 7 on it and willnot boot up and the 2nd drive has all my torrents on it
[18:47] <executionist> why wont ubuntu allow me to check "allow executing file as program"? the check disappears as soon as I mark it
[18:47] <alkafoo> luc_: do you have more data you want to save than will fit on one of the drives alone?
[18:47] <legija> I have installed gnome3, but when I type sudo nautilus in terminal I got an error
[18:47] <alkafoo> executionist: which file?
[18:47] <alkafoo> legija: what error
[18:47] <luc_> alkafoo, my 2nd drive is where i want to install ubuntu
[18:47] <alkafoo> luc_: I know, you're getting ahead of yourself
[18:47] <legija> Nautilus could not create the required folder "/root/.config/nautilus".
[18:47] <zelozelos> executionist, try a terminal, its chmod a+x (filename or PathFilename)
[18:47] <aLinuxN00b> Would it make any difference between installing a 32-bit or a 64-bit version of Ubuntu on a machine with 3GB of RAM?
[18:47] <alkafoo> luc_: if you can fit all your data on one drive, you should copy it there first so you don't have to lose anything
[18:48] <legija> Before running Nautilus, please create the following folder, or set permissions such that Nautilus can create it.
[18:48] <alkafoo> legija: interesting, does that directory exist? sudo ls /root/
[18:48] <luc_> alkafoo, my 2nd drive is about half filled
[18:48] <alkafoo> aLinuxN00b: there's no reason to not use 64-bit, there hasn't been for ages
[18:48] <zelozelos> aLinuxN00b, the same diffs between the two still apply
[18:49] <legija> not shown when I type what you said
[18:49] <alkafoo> luc_: what capacity are your two drives?
[18:49] <srgjames> what all options do i have to run a dos exe
[18:49] <antid> alkafoo, what is the difference between 'partition size' and the 'actual size' ?
[18:49] <tensorpudding> srgjames: DOSBox
[18:49] <zelozelos> wine
[18:49] <alkafoo> legija: try ls / | grep -i root
[18:49] <srgjames> zelo wines not running it
[18:49] <tensorpudding> srgjames: DOSBox provides a reasonble DOS emulator environment, it can run many/most MS-DOS programs
[18:49] <alkafoo> antid: I'm not sure what you're referring to, but it could be accounting for how much space will be taken up by the filesystem's overhead
[18:50] <legija> when I type that, it shows root (red color)
[18:50] <zelozelos> virtualbox with a dos system then ? srgjames
[18:50] <luc_> alkafoo,my 1st is  320 gb which i think is going bad and my 2nd is a 1tb
[18:50] <alkafoo> legija: okay
[18:50] <robotHouse01> .
[18:51] <alkafoo> luc_: okay, and your 1TB already has all its space partitioned as one big partition, right?
[18:51] <srgjames> that should work lets trys it
[18:51] <luc_> alkafoo,  i guess
[18:52] <tensorpudding> srgjames: DOSBox is available in the software center
[18:52] <alkafoo> luc_: is there any data on your Windows install you want to save?
[18:52] <luc_> alkafoo, not really i can reinstall it if i want to
[18:53] <zelozelos> srgjames, you may find one already set up here, all youll have to do is dl and make a vm to point to it
[18:53] <zelozelos> http://virtualboximages.com/
[18:53] <DocPlatypus> what's the recommended procedure for making a backup of an Ubuntu 10.04 system if I need to upgrade it to 11.04 LTS?
[18:53] <luc_> alkafoo, i really just want all my torrents saved
[18:53] <legija> there is .config folder, and there is nautilus folder but I can run nautilus at all
[18:53] <antid> alkafoo, when i was in the partitioning tool, the partition size didn't match my 200 gb....it was something like 19gb and some other value for the "system restore" partition(?)
[18:53] <zelozelos> DocPlatypus, you mean if you need to you want to "downgrade"?
[18:53] <antid> alkafoo, 200gb is what i have in total space on my disk**
[18:54] <DocPlatypus> zelozelos: in case the upgrade goes sour, and I want to get my friend back to his old 10.04 setup swiftly
[18:54] <zelozelos> DocPlatypus, once upgraded, un-doing it is not possible, however you can back up the entire system, if you have a second drive w the space
[18:54] <srgjames> tensor not 100% sure but i dont think that will work its  a new program thats a dos/windows exe  and its a java program .... i guess best bet would be a virtual  machine of windows 7 but i was hoping to get fully away from windows
[18:55] <alkafoo> antid: like 199 or like 19? =P
[18:55] <DocPlatypus> zelozelos: and we do. it's a 1.5T drive with about 140 gigs free
[18:55] <alkafoo> luc_: okay then I suggest you install to your first 320GB hard disk
[18:55] <zelozelos> DocPlatypus, is it a different drive then the one being upgraded?
[18:55] <DocPlatypus> zelozelos: yes
[18:56] <zelozelos> a different "physcal" drive - if so 1 sec i have to remember what that backup program was
[18:56] <luc_> alkafoo, i dont think it is reconized here though
[18:56] <alkafoo> luc_: why don't you think so?
[18:56] <antid> alkafoo, pretty sure it was 19000 something MB...also i'm reading this guide of a guy installing ubuntu10.10, he doesn't specify his disk size but in the pictures he has ~11k MB
[18:57] <luc_> alkafoo, it only shows my 1tb to install to
[18:57] <DocPlatypus> zelozelos: yes, it's an external USB 2.0 1.5T drive
[18:58] <zelozelos> I think it is sbackup, its been a while however and i found something else interesting   check this page out...http://ask.metafilter.com/69793/How-do-I-transfer-my-current-Ubuntu-system-to-a-new-larger-hard-drive
[18:58] <alkafoo> luc_: it what?
[18:58] <luc_> alkafoo, install ubuntu
[18:58] <sbsquaresh> Hey... I was wondering if my computer was ment for ubuntu or not. It is a 1999 Computer
[18:59] <fermulator> Does anyone here have experience with virtualbox on Ubuntu 11.04?
[18:59] <alkafoo> antid: well there are some considerations, like 200GB being only 186.3GiB, and when formatted that will be slightly less, even
[18:59] <zelozelos> sbsquaresh, id go for version 9
[18:59] <fermulator> since upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, virtualbox3.2 no longer works
[18:59] <alkafoo> antid: nothing worth spending much time considering, though
[18:59] <luc_> alkafoo, i try to install on it says i need to partition it
[19:00] <alkafoo> luc_: okay, well if it says that then obviously it sees the disk
[19:00] <alkafoo> it should allow you to partition it though - you might have to destroy your existing Windows partition/s first, hwoever
[19:00] <alkafoo> however
[19:01] <lockheed> how can i view the files in my natty partition from windows 7
[19:01] <ipv6jesus> I have 3 different OS's on my netbook - Backtrack, Ubuntu and W7, all installed alongside eachother. How do I remove all of them, essentially swiping the harddrive clean in an efficient way? Any suggestions welcome.
[19:01] <dr_willis> !ext3
[19:01] <tensorpudding> lockheed: you probably can't
[19:01] <dr_willis> ive heard those tools are now working with ext4 in recent updates
[19:01] <luc_> alkafoo, im going to turn it off and startup again and see if it finds my 1st drive
[19:02] <dr_willis> ipv6jesus:  just use fdisk and delete every partiton. then remake them.
[19:02] <tensorpudding> lockheed: if you want to share files, it's best to use NTFS
[19:02] <ipv6jesus> dr_willis: Thanks, will do that now.
[19:03] <fermulator> lockheed: from Windows, I've used this application before: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
[19:03] <srgjames> hmmmm
[19:03] <quiescens> fermulator: any error message or a description of what happens? "no longer works" is not particularly helpful
[19:03] <fermulator> lockheed: WARNING: last time I checked, it doesn't support write, you can only read
[19:03] <srgjames> is there a way to link files to irc
[19:04] <tensorpudding> srgjames: what is it you want to do
[19:04] <dr_willis> srgjames:  clarify what you mean
[19:04] <corpusmainus> hello
[19:04] <srgjames> nvm i got it i think
[19:04] <fermulator> quiescens; sorry, indeed my message wasn't very useful.  Specifically, I /believe/ I have figured it out -- from the Maverick installation, I had a virtualbox-3.2 installation from Oracle (using checkinstall), /that/ was what was failing.  I'lkl troubleshoot a bit more, -- using the later vbox, giving it a shot
[19:05] <alkafoo> lockheed: do you want to read these files often, or just once?
[19:05] <srgjames> um kk
[19:06] <alkafoo> lockheed: fermulator's suggestion is good for one offs, for long term I'd suggest http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[19:06] <luc_> alkafoo, trying to install ubuntu
[19:06] <alkafoo> fs-driver is antiquated
[19:06] <alkafoo> luc_: yes I know
[19:06] <quiescens> fermulator: well there are ubuntu/debian packages if they are suitable, likely cause is out of date virtualbox modules if you haven't done the vboxdrv stuff for your newer kernel
[19:07] <srgjames> maybe this will be easier to get some help im attempting to download this file at http://www.epicbot.com/download.php and run and install it but i cant get it to work at all
[19:07] <PF> Hi. I accidentally removed notification area. After bringing it back it changed a lot: there is no volume control, log out, and there is something wrong with battery icon which is different from elementary theme and doesn't change regardless of battery state. How to fix the battery problem?
[19:08] <luc_> alkafoo, still comes up allocate drive space opt 1 erase disk and install ubuntu or opt 2 something else
[19:08] <mrdeb> wow ff. that is a problem
[19:08] <urlin2u> srgjames, you using wine?
[19:08] <srgjames> wine doesnt work
[19:08] <alkafoo> luc_: as long as it's not talking about your 1TB, I'd go with opt1 erase & install
[19:08] <urlin2u> srgjames, that is a .exe though
[19:08] <sampath> s
[19:09] <sampath> help
[19:09] <oCean> srgjames: that link results in a dos/windows executable to be downloaded. What do you want to do with that?
[19:09] <sampath> hi
[19:09] <corpusmainus> hello
[19:09] <guntbert> !ask | sampath
[19:09] <urlin2u> sampath, ask your question please
[19:09] <srgjames> i know =(
[19:09] <sampath> wer r u from
[19:09] <ciss_handicapped> hi, how can i move the offset of a logical volume? i need to get a lv out of an area containing bad blocks
[19:09] <luc_> alkafoo, if i click opt 1 erease disk will it give me the option of my windows 7 driveto wipe out only and not my 2nd drive
[19:09] <oCean> sampath: this is technical support, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:10] <srgjames> ocean i want to run instal it
[19:10] <alkafoo> srgjames: sometimes you just have to install additional libs, for example with winetracks; you might want to talk to #winehq
[19:10] <oCean> srgjames: on linux? That's not possible
[19:10] <alkafoo> luc_: my guess is that it is already presenting that information if it can
[19:10] <alkafoo> luc_: do you not see two disks?
[19:10] <alkafoo> luc_: with capacities?
[19:10] <srgjames> ocean ive seen it done  with other programs
[19:11] <srgjames> also the program is  java
[19:11] <srgjames> coded
[19:11] <urlin2u> luc_, you need to use something else
[19:11] <oCean> srgjames: only if you use wine, and still then, not *all* programs work, there's a list of specific programs that do work on wine
[19:11] <luc_> alk not without clicking it but on opt 2 it only shows my 2nd drive
[19:11] <sampath> wats all tis i am new to dis
[19:11] <alkafoo> luc_: well you want option 1 with your first drive
[19:11] <alkafoo> luc_: is that available or not?
[19:12] <oCean> sampath: I explained this is a support channel, if you don't have a supportquestion, please use #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[19:12] <alkafoo> sampath: /topic
[19:12] <sampath> i want to learn terminal ...?
[19:12] <oCean> !manual | sampath
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> sampath: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:13] <luc_> alkafoo,  yes it shows it there
[19:14] <srgjames> any other possible ways to get this to run
[19:14] <guntbert> MonkeyDust: he *is* there...
[19:15] <corpusmainus> is it possible to change the login screen in 11.04?
[19:15] <oCean> srgjames: no, not on linux
[19:16] <Arthur7x> how do I see my local ip on linux?
[19:16] <Arthur7x> I know it's like run -> cmd -> ipconfig on windows but I Have no idea about it on linux.
[19:16] <oCean> Arthur7x: type  ifconfig -a  in terminal
[19:16] <oCean> Arthur7x: only slightly different
[19:16] <luc_> alkafoo, so if i install on my 1st drive it will not erease my 2nd drive
[19:17] <oCean> Arthur7x: the -a actuall shows all devices (lan, wlan, loopback)
[19:17] <alkafoo> luc_: it shouldn't
[19:17] <Arthur7x> I type ipconfig but it says the order hasn't been found
[19:17] <luc_> alkafoo,  ok
[19:17] <oCean> Arthur7x: ifconfig, not ipconfig
[19:17] <TrueColors> I've updated to 11.04, but my wifi dongle is still not found.
[19:18] <TrueColors> I did... lspci -v
[19:18] <TrueColors> and it wasn't listed
[19:18] <Arthur7x> oh true thanks
[19:18] <Arthur7x> Thanks oCean
[19:18] <oCean> Arthur7x: welcome
[19:18] <antid> alkafoo, well, idk what exactly is the 'partition size' as shown in the ubuntu installation but reading this guide i can see that the person's 'partition size' is 10.7gb but he uses values that go way beyond it. for example he enters 6000 MB for the "file partition" ,it shows as "1737" MB of 'partition size'
[19:18] <luc_> alkafoo, comes up with error input/ output error during reading on /dev/sdb
[19:19] <Polah> TrueColors, if it's USB, try lsusb
[19:20] <TrueColors> Polah ... that does say "Belkin Components" ... my wifi dongle is a belkin
[19:20] <luc_> alkafoo, what does that mean
[19:20] <TrueColors> I need to install it h
[19:20] <TrueColors> hm*
[19:20] <alkafoo> antid: are you trying to achieve some end result, or understand some person's actions?  For the latter, see #psychology
[19:21] <alkafoo> luc_: it could mean the hardware used for that device is indeed failing
[19:21] <alkafoo> luc_: to install to your second drive, you're going to want to defrag it then resize its existing partition until there's enough free space to setup and install Ubuntu to
[19:21] <Polah> luc_: Try running a SMART test on the drive, see what comes up
[19:22] <luc_> alkafoo, so how can i install to my 2nd drive and save my files on it
[19:22] <corpusmainus> is it easily possible to change the login screen on 11.04
[19:22] <alkafoo> luc_: to install to your second drive, you're going to want to defrag it then resize its existing partition until there's enough free space to setup and install Ubuntu to
[19:22] <luc_> Polah, how do you run a smart test on it
[19:23] <alkafoo> luc_: alternatively, you might take this opportunity to get another drive and implement a proper backup system, so you don't have to deal with this issue again
[19:24] <luc_> alkafoo, how to defrag with out a operating sys on it
[19:24] <Polah> luc_: You can do it from Disk Utility
[19:25] <luc_> alkafoo, i do have another drive in my other computer can i take it out andreplace it
[19:26] <luc_> Polah, i dont have a operating system on it any more
[19:26] <Polah> luc_: You can do it from a live session
[19:27] <srgjames> ha ha i fail
[19:27] <srgjames> turns out theres a linux version
[19:28] <alkafoo> luc_: yes if you have a spare drive, that would be simpler
[19:28] <alkafoo> luc_: you can even copy its contents to your 1TB beforehand if you want
[19:29] <lockheed>  alkafoo: I tried ext2fsd yesterday but it couldn't 'see' the ubuntu partition
[19:29] <scarleo> corpusmainus: yes it is, there are guides if you google. I think Ubuntu tweak can do it as well
[19:29] <alkafoo> srgjames: secondary =P
[19:29] <alkafoo> lockheed: was probably ext4, then
[19:29] <corpusmainus> thanks scarleo
[19:29] <Tigerboy> is it possible to easily transition from Debian to Ubuntu? Or is it a complete reinstall but can I use the smb.conf and make it easier to move from debian to ubuntu?  I am  just having a bad time with the sound system in debian.
[19:30] <mrdeb> yes reinstall
[19:30] <mrdeb> in ubuntu you put in the stick and install
[19:30] <alkafoo> Tigerboy: you should be able to use many of your old confs
[19:30] <alkafoo> Tigerboy: why the transition?
[19:30] <Tigerboy> ok that is good to know
[19:32] <djskidd> Hi
[19:32] <sampath> hi
[19:32] <mrdeb> hi welcome
[19:32] <djskidd> I'd like some help
[19:32] <djskidd> I want to install Ubuntu 10.10 on this computer
[19:32] <Tigerboy> well because I am having too many problems with sound not working. I have multiple sound-- hdmi usb and the sound card... i have a problem no way to change the default easily and it keeps failing after so much time. Debian has pulse in "experimental" but the pulse in the wheezy/sid is not working right and there is no support for it
[19:32] <djskidd> Without messing up Windows
[19:32] <sampath> even i want some help about this
[19:32] <alkafoo> djskidd: is there free disk space?
[19:32] <djskidd> Let me check
[19:33] <djskidd> The computer has 3 HDDs:
[19:33] <Tigerboy> Plus something with gtk or other where the window manager keeps failing unpredictably and I can't move windows around.
[19:33] <alkafoo> Tigerboy: I'm not sure moving to Ubuntu will help you with that
[19:33] <Tigerboy> i use compiz and metacity alternately
[19:33] <djskidd> C: (windows and other crap) F: (my own drive for games) and E: (my mom's)
[19:33] <alkafoo> sounds like you haven't been maintaining your system properly, which will cause problems on any distro
[19:33] <alkafoo> djskidd: what capacities?
[19:33] <Tigerboy> yes it works much better and ubuntu supports pulse audio
[19:33] <alkafoo> djskidd: what amount free?
[19:33] <djskidd> C: has 150GB
[19:34] <Tigerboy> the audio in debian is broken
[19:34] <djskidd> F: has 75 GB
[19:34] <Tigerboy> it works ok for simple systems to a point
[19:34] <djskidd> I won't bother with E:
[19:34] <alkafoo> djskidd: the best solution would be if you can fit all the data of one drive temporarily on another, so you can repartition that drive to have more than one partition
[19:35] <djskidd> Crap, I miscounted
[19:35] <alkafoo> djskidd: maybe temporarily move F's data to C
[19:35] <lockheed>  alkafoo: ok I've got it working now, is there one i can use to write to that partition
[19:35] <djskidd> F: only has 7 GB open
[19:35] <djskidd> It's total size is 75 GB
[19:35] <jack> help - what do i do when livedvd-ubuntu fails to recognize/mount my ext4 partition on hd?
[19:35] <alkafoo> lockheed: if it's ext4, I'm not sure there is if ext2fsd can't do it
[19:35] <safire> how do I get udev to not have multiple ethx entries in 70-persistant-net.rules?
[19:35] <alkafoo> djskidd: do you have 68GB free space on C?
[19:36] <safire> I'm changing the hardware ethernet using virtualbox
[19:36] <daniel__> if you guys had a computer with 80gb hdd, 2gb ram, how big would you make / and /home partitions and swap partition?
[19:36] <safire> there's only one card, I don't want multiple entries
[19:36] <Gredeu> i do
[19:36] <alkafoo> jack: why do you want it to mount it?
[19:36] <djskidd> 60 GB free
[19:36] <djskidd> on C:
[19:36] <TrueColors> Is ubuntu suppose to flicker when shutting down ?
[19:36] <jack> alkafoo, i need to write files there
[19:36] <Tigerboy> truecolors: no
[19:36] <TrueColors> 10.04, 10.10 and 11.04 flicker
[19:37] <alkafoo> djskidd: k... you could look for 8GB of data you can happily delete, copy F's data to C, repartition F to have two partitions, copy that data back from C to F, install Ubuntu to new partition on F
[19:37] <TrueColors> 11.04 takes a while to load up... though apparently my hardware doesn't support unity.
[19:37] <HuegWeev> HAPPY 9/11 FROM THE GNAA
[19:37] <Tigerboy> truecolors: are you seeing text?
[19:37] <alkafoo> djskidd: the alternative is to defrag C, resize its partition(s) (potentially dangerous), then make a new partition there
[19:37] <TrueColors> na... um
[19:38] <TrueColors> I'll show you what I mean
[19:38] <HuegWeev> HAPPY 9/11 FROM THE GNAA
[19:38] <Tigerboy> what is GNAA
[19:38] <alkafoo> Tigerboy: group of dorks =P
[19:38] <Telendrith> Hi, when I launch certen applications the volume control goes nuts for about 30 seconds+  jumping up and down from mute to full volume and back and forth. You lose control of your computer, and when you kill the process it's back to normal. Ideas?
[19:38] <srgjames> rofl
[19:38] <Tigerboy> lol ok
[19:38] <Telendrith> Also tried ALSA & padsp. Nothing..  Touching the volume strip does not help.
[19:39] <abstrakt> are the different RAID specifications, i.e. RAID 0 and RAID 1, hardware or software based?
[19:39] <HuegWeev> HAPPY 9/11 FROM THE GNAA
[19:39] <alkafoo> abstrakt: something else entirely
[19:39] <abstrakt> i.e. if I see a computer online that says RAID 0, could I switch that later to be RAID 1 easily through the kernel for example?
[19:39] <Tigerboy> Well 9/11 was a terrible assault on our country by sick morons trying to take control of the world...
[19:39] <HuegWeev> HAPPY 9/11 FROM THE GNAA
[19:39] <alkafoo> abstrakt: depends on your definition of "easily"
[19:39] <jack> raid 0 is striped
[19:40] <abstrakt> Tigerboy, and also off topic
[19:40] <jack> raid 1 is different
[19:40] <Tigerboy> oh it is?
[19:40] <Tigerboy> I was just responding to you
[19:40] <Tigerboy> I guess you are a supporter of them
[19:40] <luc_> alkafoo, can i just install to new drive and keep all my files intact on my 1tb drive
[19:40] <Telendrith> Ideas?
[19:40] <Telendrith> ^^
[19:41] <abstrakt> jack, err... what does striped mean?
[19:41] <Tigerboy> I just wish I could get the sound working and i would stay with debian
[19:41] <abstrakt> jack, and how is RAID 1 different than striped?
[19:41] <Tigerboy> it's working fine on most of my machines
[19:42] <abstrakt> i mean, really I'm looking at buying a laptop and RAID is fairly popular on some of the high end models, I'm wondering, if I went RAID, how easy it would be to change from i.e. RAID 0 to RAID 1
[19:42] <jack> abstrakt: means raid 0 gives you as much disk space as you have - as one volume
[19:42] <abstrakt> basically i want RAID 1 but they really only offer RAID 0
[19:42] <w30> Telendrith, I had a computer go nuts like that for a different reason. It ended up being a keyboard key problem. Some key kept self firing.
[19:42] <abstrakt> jack, yeah i know the essential functionality of RAID 0 vs RAID 1
[19:42] <Telendrith> Hrm.
[19:42] <abstrakt> jack, i've just never heard the term "striped"
[19:43] <Telendrith> Could I switch out the 'shortcut' and drop the keys for volume control?
[19:43] <Polah> abstrakt: To switch from RAID 0 to RAID 1 you'd need to rebuild the array. Also, they do laptops with two drive bays now?
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> starred & striped
[19:43] <abstrakt> seems that if you want SSD these days it's better to make a 256G SSD drive out of two 128G SSDs in RAID 0
[19:43] <abstrakt> and by better i mean cheaper :)
[19:43] <abstrakt> Polah, aaand, by "rebuild the array" you mean actually replace some hardware?
[19:43] <Polah> abstrakt: Sure, if you want to compromise your data integrity.
[19:43] <TrueColors> hm
[19:44] <TrueColors> ubuntu crashed on shutdown
[19:44] <abstrakt> you can use any old IDE/ATA
[19:44] <abstrakt> Polah, yeah actually I want RAID 1
[19:44] <Polah> abstrakt: I mean destroy the RAID 0 array and thus the data on it and then recreate it as RAID 1 and start afresh
[19:44] <abstrakt> but no one is offering as much space as I want in RAID 1
[19:44] <abstrakt> and in SSD
[19:44] <cykros> hmm...i have a question that is hopefully easy...i just grabbed streamripper last night, and recorded a radio show with it, which I know was sending out id3 tags with the stream.  However, my output files have no id3 information. i'm assuming I need to specify the --codeset-id3= option, but I don't know how to determine what codeset to specify.
[19:44] <cykros> so, if anyone knows, i'd appreciate it
[19:44] <Telendrith> And random question. if I had a system and used raid 5 how much of speed hit would i take?
[19:44] <luc_> Polah, i tried to scan disk error
[19:44] <Polah> abstrakt: Well, you could always get two larger drives and replace them after you get the laptop
[19:45] <Gredeu> gonna watch season of the witch
[19:45] <lrojas> hi all, simple question, why is canonical recommending to install 32 for the desktop? what if i have a i5 processor taht fully supports 64bit and have8 GB of ram?
[19:45] <abstrakt> Polah, uhh... wait, i'm just asking if the physical hardware will need to change...
[19:45] <abstrakt> Polah, ahh yeah i suppose that's true
[19:45] <rww> lrojas: then use 64-bit
[19:45] <abstrakt> i've been thinking about just getting an SSD in maybe a year when prices hopefully become more reasonable
[19:45] <cykros> oh, and if it matters, i'm using the -a -A options to make it all one long stream, as the complications of actually splitting files when there are dj's talking and such makes little sense.
[19:45] <TrueColors> Sounds like me lrojas :P I have the same specs. I think I have 64 bit but im not sure
[19:45] <dr_willis> lrojas:  its idiot proofing.. if you dont know what one to get.. it suggests 32bit because it should always work.
[19:45] <lrojas> ok, what i'm asking is why does canonical recommends 32 ?
[19:45] <abstrakt> Polah, i'm not so concerned with needing to reformat, i would take it for granted that you'd need to reformat when moving from RAID 0 to RAID 1
[19:45] <Polah> abstrakt: Yes, if you want a larger RAID 1 array then you'd need bigger drives. RAID 0 would give you the total capacity of the two drives together, but you'd be splitting your data in half and if one drive goes down then all your data is gone, it's not even guaranteed to give any performance benefits.
[19:45] <abstrakt> i mean, that's just... obvious I guess
[19:45] <rww> lrojas: because most people don't know what their processor model or architecture is, and 32-bit works on x86 and x86_64 processors
[19:46] <cykros> lrojas: better legacy support for more programs.  and yea, idiot proofing.
[19:46] <dr_willis> lrojas:  you can always install a pae kernel :) for 32bit to get access to the ram.. so its a failsafe suggestion.
[19:46] <dr_willis> bbl
[19:46] <cykros> i know if i went with the 32 bit installation though, i could have tradewars 2002 running from dosemu. as it is, i can't
[19:46] <lrojas> *sigh* so i need now to redownload the dvd wit the right version...
[19:46] <abstrakt> Polah, ok but pretend I were to have say a storage container about 4TB
[19:46] <abstrakt> on my LAN
[19:46] <abstrakt> so backup is not a problem
[19:46] <cykros> because tw2002 requires a 32 bit arch.
[19:46] <dr_willis> Hmm. dosbox ran fine on my 64bit system last i tried it...
[19:46] <cykros> ...nothing a VM doesn't fix, but still...that's a lot of overhead.
[19:47] <dr_willis> not used dosemu in ages that i recall.
[19:47] <cykros> dr_willis: i run dosemu fine.
[19:47] <cykros> it's tw2002 that doesn't run in 64 bit arch
[19:47] <Polah> abstrakt: Well then yes you could use RAID 0, but like I said, there may not be any performance increases. There could be, certainly, but there's no guarantee. The only guarantee you have is compromised data integrity
[19:47] <abstrakt> Polah, so I would keep the same drives and just move from RAID 0 to RAID 1
[19:47] <dr_willis> I got dosbox on my android phone.
[19:47] <cykros> i run plenty of other DOS door games on my bbs
[19:47] <Polah> abstrakt: Yes, and you'd have the storage capacity of the smallest drive and the data would be mirrored on both
[19:47] <dr_willis> weird that one dos game is somehow able to determine the hostos is 64bit..
[19:47] <abstrakt> yes i understand
[19:47] <abstrakt> Polah, now, in this instance, is a hardware change required
[19:48] <cykros> dr_willis: yea, not sure what the deal there is. it runs fine in my windows xp vm
[19:48] <dr_willis> bbl.
[19:48] <cykros> for all i know, it may work in dosbox but not dosemu
[19:48] <cykros> but i don't know how to set up dosbox with synchronet
[19:48] <hydruid> cykros, it's an easter egg, HAHAHa lol j/k
[19:48] <luc_> alkafoo, ok can i just install to my 1tb drive then
[19:48] <Polah> abstrakt, in what instance?
[19:48] <abstrakt> Polah, point is, so now i'm no longer buying drives... do I still need to buy a new RAID controller (and hence possibly, or very likely) a new laptop
[19:49] <alkafoo> luc_: what happened to the spare drive plan?
[19:49] <abstrakt> Polah, the instance we're talking about now... not buying new drives, but switching from RAID 0 to RAID 1
[19:49] <abstrakt> and yes i know the data capacity is halved
[19:49] <corecode> hi
[19:49] <abstrakt> pretend I either have backup or don't care, or both
[19:49] <abstrakt> do I need to buy a new RAID card (hardware)
[19:49] <abstrakt> to move from RAID 0 to RAID 1
[19:49] <corecode> where can i find the kernel config used for the install iso?
[19:49] <abstrakt> or will any RAID card do any kind of RAID
[19:49] <abstrakt> 0-6 i think isn't it?
[19:49] <Polah> abstrakt: Oh, that one. Hmm, if the RAID controller ONLY supports RAID 0 (I think most do support at least 0 and 1, since RAID 0 isn't really RAID since it's not redundant. If it does only support RAID 0 for some silly reason then yes you will need a new laptop.
[19:50] <urlin2u> corecode, whay?
[19:50] <urlin2u> why
[19:50] <guntbert> !enter | abstrakt
[19:50] <abstrakt> Polah, ah ok, great thanks... that's what I wanted to know :)
[19:50] <Polah> I believe 0, 1 and 5 are typical though. Just look up your laptop specs and check abstrakt
[19:50] <corecode> urlin2u: i need to use the 3.0 kernel to install on my new laptop
[19:50] <luc_> alkafoo, i will buy a new drive next week
[19:50] <abstrakt> Polah, ok will do thanks
[19:50] <urlin2u> corecode, 3.0 is only on the Oneiric
[19:51] <urlin2u> ISO*
[19:51] <corecode> urlin2u: yes, that's why i want to compile it myself
[19:51] <corecode> hm.
[19:51] <corecode> i could download the oneiric kernel
[19:51] <alkafoo> luc_: if you're going to buy a new drive, I wouldn't bother trying to install to your 1TB
[19:52] <luc_> alkafoo, why not
[19:52] <urlin2u> corecode, why not install the release Natty then install the kernel you need?
[19:52] <corecode> urlin2u: natty kernel doesn't boot
[19:53] <urlin2u> corecode, I doubt it has rto do with the kernrl, is that your contention, and what happens when you try to?
[19:53] <corecode> urlin2u: it is the kernel.
[19:53] <corecode> urlin2u: known problem.
[19:53] <corecode> urlin2u: let's move on.
[19:53] <urlin2u> corecode, what happens?
[19:53] <corecode> blank screen right after grub
[19:53] <urlin2u> corecode, sure no oroblem
[19:53] <urlin2u> problem'
[19:54] <beached> anyone here a python programmer?
[19:54] <alkafoo> luc_: because defragging even a fraction of 1TB will take some time, and resizing is a risk
[19:54] <alkafoo> beached: #python
[19:54] <luc_> alkafoo,ok then i will put other drive in then
[19:54] <alkafoo> luc_: good idea
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> beached: type /j #python
[19:54] <corecode> is oneiric stable enough to be used?
[19:54] <oCean> corecode: it's still beta, discussion in #ubuntu+1 channel
[19:55] <urlin2u> corecode, works fine for me .
[19:55] <Guest92435> so how do I unfreeze my nick?
[19:56] <w30> corecode, #ubuntu+1 has a link to the known issues, quirks. Check those
[19:56] <w0_> does anyone know where/how I could find a list of packages that come with 11.04? much thx
[19:56] <oCean> Guest92435: help on network usage is in #freenode channel
[19:57] <xangua> w0_: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:57] <w0_> sweet thanks!! ;)
[19:58] <guntbert> Guest92435: ask in #freenode please
[19:59] <oCean> guntbert: he's already there asking :)
[20:02] <Shogoot> Im confused. in ubuntu do i use /etc/cron.d/anacron or /etc/init.d/cron to automate tasks?
[20:03] <TrueColors> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6_p_n1ZhMQ - this is my ubuntu restarting... there is a slight flicker when it boot downs, then when it boot ups... well... yeah that's more visible.
[20:03] <TrueColors> then when I shut down.. it got stuck here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj6c2Q-AXSQ
[20:03] <TrueColors> it wouldn't go past it
[20:03] <FloodBot1> TrueColors: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <BBBThunda> I have an ubuntu server machine that can ping internal machines but can not get to the internet.  All other machines on the network can.  Anyone that can help me troubleshoot?
[20:04] <Polah> shogoot: Use crontab -e   to edit your cron
[20:04] <BBBThunda> I think it started after I installed a 2nd nic on that machine (one that is not yet in use)
[20:05] <qmr> is there some secret to keeping gnome-panels from getting fucked up every reboot?
[20:05] <guntbert> !language | qmr
[20:05] <Shogoot> Polah, well i did you see, but the ob i sheduled for once a minutte is not executing
[20:05] <qmr> guntbert: thanks for being useless.
[20:05] <Polah> Shogoot: Pastebin your crontab please
[20:05] <guntbert> qmr: no, I'm serious
[20:05] <qmr> guntbert: me too.
[20:08] <Shogoot> Polah, http://pastebin.com/gghEK7E5
[20:09] <w30> qmr, there are lots of places to swear on the net; Go there.
[20:09] <qmr> ...
[20:10] <qmr> you people are useless.
[20:10] <m_fulder> hey
[20:10] <oCean> qmr: please dropt that attitude
[20:10] <oCean> *drop
[20:10] <BBBThunda> qmr, if you come to a place for help and break their guidelines and act disrespectful when called on it, you just alienated 1500 people that may have wanted to help you
[20:10] <m_fulder> someone in here using webanlizer on ubuntu? .. can I check somehow how often it should clear the log?
[20:10] <Polah> qmr: Well, we shan't offer you any help then. We're not the ones that are asking from help here.
[20:11] <qmr> Polah: you mean you don't know what the answer is.  ok then.
[20:11] <uriel1998> qmr, I know the answer.  But I agree with the others.
[20:11] <Polah> qmr: Sure, I could suggest some ways to stop your panels breaking, as could many other people. I'm just saying that if you're going to insult people when you're asking them for something which they're doing for nothing in return, you're not going to get very far.
[20:11] <qmr> Polah: kiss my ass.
[20:12] <Shogoot> please drop it, im more intrested in not missing anyone that is answering my question ;)
[20:12] <Polah> qmr: I'll pass thanks.
[20:12] <oCean> let's move on please
[20:12] <Polah> Shogoot: What is your question?
[20:12] <chase> Can someone tell me what key selects a check box in dpkg-reconfigure and similar command line UIs?
[20:12] <qmr> Ohhhh so this superior attitude people have is ok?
[20:12] <Shogoot> i guess it is, why crontab is failing
[20:12] <Polah> Shogoot: Oh yeah the crontab, hang on just a second.
[20:12] <qmr> why don't you kick them?
[20:12] <oCean> qmr: please drop it and move on
[20:12] <Polah> chase: Space usually
[20:13] <chase> Polah: Thanks! Didn't say it anywhere and was driving me crazy!
[20:13] <HappyNineEleven> hi
[20:13] <HappyNineEleven> i'm having a problem with samba
[20:13] <HappyNineEleven> can anyone help?
[20:13] <alkafoo> HappyNineEleven: not until you explain it
[20:13] <Shogoot> HappyNineEleven, dont ask to ask, just ask :)
[20:13] <Polah> Shogoot, change 01 on your line to */1, currently it's running at one minute past every hour.
[20:14] <Shogoot> Polah, ooooooooooooooooohh ok. get it
[20:14] <HappyNineEleven> well, it's not installing
[20:14] <HappyNineEleven> apt-get is being a POS
[20:14] <alkafoo> HappyNineEleven: what's not installing?  What command are you using?  What error do you get?
[20:14] <Polah> HappyNineEleven, provide error messages please. Pastebinned or similar preferably
[20:14] <Gredeu> HappyNineEleven, use windows McVeigh
[20:14] <alazare619> pastebin.debian.org
[20:14] <rww> Gredeu: that's not helpfup
[20:14] <rww> or helpful
[20:15] <Gredeu> look at his nick
[20:15]  * Gnea looks at Gredeu's nick instead
[20:15] <alazare619> happynineeleven, wow not cool
[20:15] <Gredeu> is 9/11 something to be happy about ?
[20:15] <Shogoot> Polah, is not working, is the command correct? will the  -O overwrite the existing file?
[20:15] <alazare619> so terrorist even dont like windows ironic
[20:15] <soreau> HappyNineEleven: apt-get works fine though it's not intended to be a point-of-sale system
[20:16] <oCean> alazare619: Gredeu drop it please
[20:16] <rww> Gredeu, alazare619: If you don't want to help them, don't help them. Doesn't mean you get to make snarky comments about it. Thanks.
[20:16] <chini> I am installing globus toolkit. now i have to set a few env vars as root and also run a perl script. when I give the command as "sudo GLOBUS_LOCATION=/home/chini/Desktop/gt5.0.4-all-source-installer/gt; GLOBUS_SH_TMP=`pwd`; perl gt-server-ca.pl -y" I getting sudo usage. pleas suggest how do I do it properly
[20:16] <TrueColors> I don't really mind 9/11, we've all gotta move on at some point - sure it was a tragedy but... what can you do?
[20:16] <HappyNineEleven> it complains about dependanices
[20:16] <soreau> HappyNineEleven: What are you trying to install?
[20:16] <HappyNineEleven> samba
[20:16] <qmr> chini just do sudo su, then do whatever you need to do as root
[20:16] <alazare619> oCean ok ill listen to a mod and not you or you RWW you guys can bite me
[20:17] <rww> alazare619: oCean and I are both channel operators for #ubuntu.
[20:17] <soreau> HappyNineEleven: Can you pastebin the complete output to pastebin.com, beginning with the command you're running?
[20:17] <guntbert> chini: don't follow his advice, it is bad
[20:17] <alazare619> *shrug*
[20:17] <alazare619> happynineeleven is obviously a /b/ troll
[20:17] <qmr> guntbert: how is my advise bad?
[20:17] <BladeMcCool> any way to make 'apt-get install asterisk-espeak' do actual installing instead of saying 'Couldn't find package asterisk-espeak' ?
[20:18] <Polah> Shogoot: Change your wget around:     wget http://prosjekt.uia.no/users/simonl09/2oktinnlevering/2oktoberinnlevering.html -O /home/anatomist/script2taskhtmldownloadfile
[20:18] <guntbert> chini: if you really need a root shell use sudo -i
[20:19] <Polah> BladeMcCool: That's because it can't find the package. Have you spelt it correct and enabled any necessary PPAs/alternate repositories and ran apt-get update?
[20:19] <HappyNineEleven> oh wait samba is working now
[20:19] <HappyNineEleven> is there any wiki page
[20:19] <HappyNineEleven> which documents on how to make shares?
[20:19] <rww> !samba > HappyNineEleven
[20:19] <GeekyAdam> i need help getting unicode to work. i set UTF-8 in putty on my windows machine, and my ubuntu server's locales are all en_US.UTF-8, but unicode doesnt seem to work right. here's an example of a "toilet test": http://i.imgur.com/KrRzo.png
[20:19] <HappyNineEleven> fantastic rww, thanks
[20:19] <qmr> HappyNineEleven:
[20:19] <kernelpanicker> I'm -xterm_clipboard in my 10.10... I need to be able to use the clipboard... anyone know how to get that to be +xterm_clipboard?
[20:19] <qmr> http://tinyurl.com/5rjupkd
[20:20] <BladeMcCool> Polah: i have spelt it correctly yes. maybe i need to enable a repository. how to see waht repos i have?
[20:20] <qmr> ...?
[20:20] <qmr> why was I just kicked
[20:20] <rww> qmr: use of lmgtfy is not permitted in #ubuntu* channels, as it's rude and unhelpful. Please do not use it in future.
[20:21] <w30> sudo su works in unexpected ways as environment path etc. Good computing practice would be knowing why.
[20:21] <luc_> Polah, ok i install me other hard drive in and want to format it to install ubuntu on it how to do it
[20:21] <Gredeu> niether are watermarks
[20:21] <HappyNineEleven> Can I use 'sudo su -' to get root?
[20:21] <qmr> rww: here's a crazy idea... maybe someone shoudl say that instead of randomly kicking me
[20:21] <rww> HappyNineEleven: try sudo -i
[20:21] <Polah> BladeMcCool: cat /etc/apt/sources.list will output to console. I see asterisk-espeak in the source repos, but I don't know about binary packages. You can get the source using sudo apt-get source asterisk-espeak
[20:21] <qmr> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=samba+wiki  what is the third result?
[20:21] <threefish> HappyNineEleven, or su root
[20:21] <chini> guntbert: thank you. however I would like to know how sudo su is bad.
[20:21] <soreau> HappyNineEleven: In most cases, you don't need to become root
[20:21] <Polah> HappyNineEleven, sudo su is a bit hacky, use sudo -i for an extended period root shell.
[20:24] <Shogoot> Polah, it works, but just a bit.... i made the extension to be downloadifle2, it ticks in at the change of the minutte, but i dont want several files, i want 1 file that is overwritten each time. anhy clue on howto?
[20:24] <BladeMcCool> Polah: ok i my sources.list is an entry like: "deb http://packages.asterisk.org/deb lucid main" i guess i need to poke around some more ty for some info tho
[20:24] <luc_> any body know how to format harddrive to install ubuntu on it
[20:24] <Shogoot> Polah, thanks btw troubleshooting dluxe
[20:24] <Polah> BladeMcCool: Like I said after that, there's the source packages and I can't find anything for the compiled .deb to install from. You'll need to get the source and build and install it
[20:25] <soreau> luc_: In most cases, you can use the ubuntu live session to do the partitioning/formating for you
[20:25] <hgelpme> Hey guys, I am installing ubuntu with dual boot and i need a shared hard disc partition can anyone guide me trough the whole partitioning part??
[20:25] <hgelpme> i dont weant to f it up you know ;)
[20:25] <soreau> hgelpme: You could set it up to where each OS can access the others filesystem..
[20:26] <guntbert> chini: lets put it differently: you almost never work as root, and usually use sudo for single commands; in the rare cases when you really need a shell you should use sudo -i, sudo su - might get you into problems because the environment is set differently
[20:26] <soreau> hgelpme: For example, ubuntu can access ntfs partitions in the same system by default
[20:26] <luc_> hgelpme, i hope not on win 7
[20:26] <ubuntu__> Hey guys. I'm trying to install Xubuntu 11.04 (Natty) on an old box - specs are more than the minimum requirements.... 1300 mhz cpu, etc.  But it keeps freezing during install. I checked the CD and it's a good burn. Any suggestions?
[20:26] <HappyNineEleven> what's wrong with 'sudo su -'? works for me
[20:26] <soreau> ubuntu_: How did you check the cd?
[20:27] <BladeMcCool> Polah: so for example, if i look at http://packages.asterisk.org/deb/dists/lucid/main/ in a browser, i see stuff there .. but do i see the _right_ stuff tehre i dunno? is there a missing architecture maybe? my uname says i686 somethingorother
[20:27] <ubuntu__> I used the CD to install it on this machine
[20:27] <DonJuan692006> !grub
[20:27] <Polah> BladeMcCool: You can't packages that way. Do sudo apt-get source asterisk-espeak and then configure, build and install from source.
[20:27] <soreau> ubuntu_: That doesn't explain how you checked the cd for defects
[20:27] <soreau> ! md5sum | ubuntu_
[20:27] <DonJuan692006> Does anyone have the name of the Grub2 fix utility that you can run from LiveCD?
[20:28] <hgelpme> soreau: i know that i have allready intalled windows with the partition zize i need it to have and now im in the "ubuntu instalation part" i just need to know what kind of filesystem ubuntu needs? and yes it is windows 7.. does it make a difference?
[20:28] <guntbert> !wfm | HappyNineEleven
[20:28] <hgelpme> *size
[20:28] <guntbert> HappyNineEleven: and please read what I said above
[20:28] <Shogoot> Polah, it works, but just a bit.... i made the extension to be downloadifle2, it ticks in at the change of the minutte, but i dont want several files, i want 1 file that is overwritten each time. anhy clue on howto?  thanks btw troubleshooting dluxe
[20:28] <Polah> DonJuan692006, just boot the live session and you can use grub-install to reinstall grub
[20:28] <BladeMcCool> Polah: will give it a go ty
[20:28] <luc_> hgelpme, u putting on windows 7
[20:28] <soreau> hgelpme: No, it doesn't make a difference. ubuntu should probably use ext4
[20:29] <DonJuan692006> Tried that already and it's not working.
[20:29] <BladeMcCool> hrm.. gives 'Unable to find a source package for asterisk-espeak' :(
[20:29] <BluesKaj> ubuntu__,  perhaps the alternate install will work for your pc
[20:29] <soreau> ! work | DonJuan692006
[20:29] <Polah> Shogoot: That makes more than one file? Strange, there's nothing on the line to tell it to do that, unless wget automatically picks up that it has a number and used it before
[20:29] <hgelpme> luc_: yes i need it only for games that is not suported by wine
[20:29] <ubuntu__> soreau: I used the option on the disk to scan the disk for errors, etc.
[20:30] <hgelpme> soreau: should it be primary or ligical?
[20:30] <DonJuan692006> Polah: Tried that already and I'm still not getting the Grub boot menu. There was some GUI tool that I used the other day to fix Grub on my desktop and I can't for the life of me remember what it was called.
[20:30] <soreau> ubuntu_: How does it freeze exactly? and at any specific point?
[20:30] <soreau> hgelpme: primary, in most cases..
[20:30] <hgelpme> soreau: most casses?
[20:31] <soreau> hgelpme: You only need logical if you use msdos partition table (as opposed to gpt) and you have more than 4 partitions
[20:31] <ubuntu__> soreau: It seems to freeze right after I choose "English" as the language.  The mouse will freeze shortly after I click "next"
[20:31] <Shogoot> Polah, no, its not making a second file Crontab is working but the command is not allowing to overwrite the existing file (when it executed for the second time from crontab).
[20:31] <Polah> Shogoot: What does it say when it tries to overwrite?
[20:31] <soreau> ubuntu_: Try this: When the cd first loads, hit Esc (when you see the little running man at the bottom)
[20:31] <hgelpme> soreau: primary it is! thanks :)
[20:31] <Shogoot> Polah, imnot getting any error...
[20:31] <soreau> ubuntu_: select english then 'try ubuntu without making any changes'
[20:32] <luc_> hgelpme, thats what i just did and had to reformat my drive allover
[20:32] <djjonex> any good app to backup my pics from phone?
[20:32] <soreau> ubuntu_: After that, it should load into a live session from which you can start the installer
[20:32] <home_> hello
[20:33] <soreau> djjonex: cp?
[20:33] <ubuntu__> soreau: Thanks lots.. I'll give that one a try. :]
[20:33] <Polah>  Shogoot you could change your line to rm /path/to/file && wget blah blah blah
[20:33] <djjonex> soreau: whats cp?
[20:33] <soreau> djjonex: cp is the copy command in linux
[20:33] <djjonex> soreau well but first i need to sync the phone and idk how
[20:34] <soreau> djjonex: Did you try plugging it in?
[20:34] <BladeMcCool> is it maybe a gpg thing with the repo?
[20:34] <Shogoot> Polah, will try
[20:34] <DonJuan692006> Polah: Found it...it's called Boot-repair and instructions for it can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:34] <BladeMcCool> what are the Hit and Ign prefixes meaning of the 'apt-get update' output?
[20:34] <soreau> DonJuan692006: FWIW, I did not have successful results when I tried that applet
[20:35] <hgelpme> luc_: crossing my fingers
[20:35] <DonJuan692006> soreau: I used it the other day on my desktop and it worked like a charm. Maybe just another troubleshooting step that can be taken.
[20:36] <Polah> BladeMcCool Ign prefixes are for repositories that are in your sources.list but are commented out and thus they are ignored and their package lists not downloaded.
[20:36] <soreau> DonJuan692006: In it's defense, I do have a somewhat complex setup..
[20:36] <hgelpme> soreau: By the way, do i need to set a specific mount point or should i just leave that part blank?
[20:36] <soreau> hgelpme: Depends on what partition you're referring to
[20:36] <soreau> hgelpme: For the root filesystem, the mountpoint should always be /
[20:36] <BladeMcCool> Polah: but when examining sources.list they do not appear commented out .. is there something else that decides to ignore them?
[20:37] <ubuntu__> Any idea why Unity won't load on my core 2 quad machine, with Asus  1gb GPU?  It kicks me into Gnome and says my hardware isn't sufficient for Unity. :/
[20:37] <DonJuan692006> soreau: That may contribute to it not being successful. I think it's probably more useful for those like me that have a pretty basic dual-boot setup with Windows and just need to get Grub re-installed and pointed in the right direction should MBR overwrite it.
[20:37] <djjonex> soreau: is plugged in already
[20:37] <soreau> djjonex: I think you need to define what you're trying to do a little better so we can better assist you
[20:38] <DonJuan692006> Thanks for the assist fellas.
[20:38] <Polah> BladeMcCool, lines prepended with # are comments
[20:38] <djjonex> soreau: let sc... i have a non smartphone ..and the emory is full...i need to export some pics that i have there
[20:38] <plouffe> tar command: I've tried excluding directories several ways, placing --exclude=/tmp in various locations within the command string. The directories keep getting included. Does anyone know how to solve this?
[20:39] <soreau> djjonex: So you're trying to copy pics from your phone to your hard drive with ubuntu?
[20:39] <frussell> Hello, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 and I'm having startup issues, can anyone help please?
[20:39] <djjonex> soreau: yes
[20:39] <soreau> djjonex: Assuming it connects via usb, can you show the relevant line from the output of 'lsusb' in your terminal?
[20:40] <frussell> It flashes startup messages a few times, then just hangs on a text screen with loading the display manager
[20:40] <frussell> Last message reads "Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support"
[20:40] <djjonex> soreau: what page i can paste the output?
[20:40] <soreau> djjonex: It should only be one line..
[20:41] <djjonex> soreau: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 04e8:6640 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd Usb Modem Enumerat
[20:41] <Topknoticus> Afternoon everyone
[20:41] <soreau> djjonex: Now after plugging in the phone, check the output of 'dmesg|tail' for a device node such as sdc
[20:41] <ubuntu__> Greetings, Top
[20:41] <hgelpme> soreau: the partition that i need to install ubuntu on... / right?
[20:42] <soreau> hgelpme: yes
[20:42] <djjonex> soreau: it shows up like 10 lines
[20:42] <treydogg> howdy all
[20:42] <soreau> djjonex: Does it say anything like sdb or sdc?
[20:43] <treydogg> before anyone flames me.. I have googled, I have read the forums.. I have even made it work ONCE.. but can ANYONE help me with getting myth:// on the xbmclvie install to work?!?!
[20:43] <soreau> ! pm | djjonex
[20:44] <djjonex> my bad
[20:44] <treydogg> I have just reinstalled  a FRESH copy of xbmclive and my backend is working perfectly
[20:44] <hgelpme> soreau: and the partition that i need to share between the systems soul be what kind of mount point?
[20:44] <soreau> djjonex: Just pastebin those lines to pastebin.com
[20:44] <treydogg> and I am SO new the using the git protocl
[20:45] <treydogg> er.. protocol
[20:45] <soreau> hgelpme: Well like I said, you do't really need such a partition. But if you choose to create dedicated space for a shared partition, it's up to you what filesystem type to make it
[20:45] <soreau> hgelpme: What type of data will you be storing on the shared partition?
[20:45] <djjonex> soreau: http://pastebin.com/qjLTfBZ2
[20:46] <treydogg> so can anyone give me the step by step howto on updating to the development trunk of xbmc?
[20:46] <hgelpme> soreau: films and music and pictures..
[20:46] <soreau> djjonex: Ok, that has nothing to do with your phone. You should run dmesg directly after plugging the phone in
[20:46] <BiKER-JENS> some expert in Apache and Webmin online?
[20:46] <Polah> How can I get the /dev/ path of plugged in USB devices?
[20:46] <BiKER-JENS> something went wrong in my installation and I need some help
[20:46] <hgelpme> soreau: it is mainly so i can still acces my media when in windows...
[20:46] <Polah> BiKER-JENS, we can help you set it up but if it's Apache specific then ask in #httpd
[20:47] <soreau> hgelpme: So media. Which shouldn't require permissions. And since the other party sharing it is windows, it might make sense to make it ntfs type
[20:47] <guntbert> !webmin | BiKER-JENS
[20:47] <treydogg> or at least point me to a link that has step by step?
[20:47] <BiKER-JENS> okay thanks :-)
[20:47] <milk> byobu question - playing around with the settings, i changed the help shortcut to the non-F key option, but now i'm stumped as to what the heck 'Menu:<^"-@>' means. any advise?
[20:47] <soreau> hgelpme: But what I'm telling you is that you don't need a dedicated media partition, you can just access the windows file system directly from ubuntu
[20:48] <bazhang> http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=MythTV#myth:.2F.2F_Source  treydogg this is using mythbuntu ?
[20:48] <treydogg> yes, and like I said backend works PERFECT, I can even install mythfrontend on my xbmclive and can watch live tv
[20:48] <djjonex> soreau: http://pastebin.com/fmvZp7U3
[20:48] <Topknoticus> Preface:I am using ubuntu 11.4 , and am trying to set it up as a simple FTP server. I have tried ProftpD, and PureFTPd (PureAdmin). Both are giving me issues. Question: Does anyone know of a simple FTP server software to use that might be easier to use than the two I mentioned?
[20:48] <soreau> hgelpme: So for example, you could tell it to use sda2 as ntfs and mount point /mnt/windows and tell it not to format it
[20:49] <tensorpudding> Topknoticus: vsftpd
[20:49] <treydogg> top:  are you connecting to the ubuntun server from a windows machine?
[20:49] <BiKER-JENS> Topknoticus: I use vsftpd
[20:49] <Gnea> Topknoticus: all ftp servers are going to present a challenge
[20:49] <BiKER-JENS> it runs out of the box
[20:49] <Polah> Topknoticus, vsftpd has a single .conf file and that's pretty much it
[20:49] <soreau> hgelpme: Then when you boot, it would auto-mount your windows partition on /mnt/windows
[20:50] <Topknoticus> Tensorpudding: I forgot to mention that one as well, I have used it as well, but experienced issues. Let me try to reinstall it now and run a simple config through it. tyvm, brb.
[20:50] <plouffe> solved it, seems like tar exclude doesn't accept absolute paths
[20:50] <treydogg> baz:  I followed those to the T and it shows the channels, but when I click livetv it just shows ..
[20:50] <soreau> djjonex: Oh man, my friend has one of these and the brief time I got to mess with it, I couldn't get it working to access the files on the phone
[20:50] <soreau> djjonex: because it recognizes it as a modem instead of a block device
[20:50] <guntbert> !tab | treydogg
[20:50] <BladeMcCool> hrm fark i think there is no asterisk-espeak for lucid. ... so that blows. can i use the one for ... maverick?
[20:50] <treydogg> top:  I asked because sometimes NT machines have issues with passive mode connecting to *nix boxes
[20:50] <djjonex> soreau: so i should use windows?
[20:51] <Linuxnub> Soreau: I'm logging for now, but I'll drop back by later and let you know if your method solved the issue. Thanks again for the assist.
[20:51] <soreau> djjonex: If it works, I guess that may be easiest..
[20:51] <djjonex> soreau: thanks ...
[20:51] <soreau> djjonex: There's probably a way to do it in linux but I don't know how yet
[20:51] <bazhang> treydogg, that is the most relevant I could find relating to myth, ubuntu, and xbmc; never done it myself though so not much more help
[20:51] <djjonex> soreau: thats fine bro thanks for ur help!
[20:51] <nnull> when you chance the mouse pointer in Apperance, how do you get it to actually change? (yes ive saved profile etc) ive noticed this happens for a few releases now..
[20:51] <hgelpme> soreau: ahh i know  what you mean now, but still i have allredy made the windoze partition, and i dont want to go trough the instalation proces again, and secoond i want my media drive to be seperated from the windoze partition in case of virus infection
[20:51] <bazhang> you might try #ubuntu-mythtv treydogg
[20:52] <treydogg> bazhang:  can you walk me though how to use git to update mine to the development trunk?
[20:52] <treydogg> bazhang:  itn's not a mythtv issue.. I can connect with a frontend just fine just don't wanna Alt-Tab between apps
[20:53] <soreau> hgelpme: Then just make it ntfs file system of whatever size and mount point /media/shared or whatever
[20:53] <chini> is 127.0.1.1 defined by default in ubuntu ?
[20:53] <benoliver999> Anyone having trouble streaming live video in Chrome?
[20:53] <mateusz> CZE
[20:54] <treydogg> oh my god sorry guys I though I was in the xbmc-pvr channel!
[20:54] <soreau> treydogg: We really only support ubuntu packages. If you want to build from source, try the channel bazhang suggested or
[20:54] <soreau> ! compile | treydogg
[20:54] <hgelpme> soreau: ok, (the installer can for some reason only make it FAT 16 or 32 but that is irrelivant) so i need to make the mount poin /?
[20:54] <Topknoticus> Tensorpudding: Looks like vsftpd is working to allow my user account to log into the server. How can I create an additional user with only FTP access on the system?
[20:55] <tensorpudding> Topknoticus: i don't remember
[20:55] <tensorpudding> it's been ages
[20:55] <BiKER-JENS> Someone online that can help me with Apache2 + webmin on Ubuntu server. I've tried to install but when in https://ip:10000 thers is no answer at all
[20:55] <soreau> hgelpme: No, you do not want to mount your media partition to /. Use /media/whatever
[20:55] <Topknoticus> heh, ok, ty.let me see if anyone else knows :D
[20:55] <soreau> hgelpme: / is exclusively for the root system
[20:56] <oCean> BiKER-JENS: webmin is not supported
[20:56] <soreau> hgelpme: / is kinda like the equivalent to C: in windows
[20:56] <guntbert> BiKER-JENS: don't use webmin - it will mess up your system
[20:56] <Topknoticus> Question: Can anyone tell me how to add a user to ubunto so that they only have permission within vsftpd?
[20:56] <soreau> !webmin
[20:57] <hgelpme> soreau: i seeee :) but when i chose fat 32 it gives me the choise between /DOS and /Windows
[20:57] <hgelpme> ?
[20:57] <chini> is 127.0.1.1 defined by default in ubuntu ? i have a system which has one defined. i am not sure if it is intensional change or it came with the disto
[20:57] <BiKER-JENS> okay - what should I use insteed
[20:57] <soreau> hgelpme: Sure or you can change it to whatever you want like /media/shared
[20:57] <Zoffix_> chini, it is defined on my box (by default)
[20:57] <guntbert> Topknoticus: does https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html  help?
[20:57] <soreau> hgelpme: However there is a bug IIRC, that you cant type it directly but you can copy/paste into that field
[20:58] <guntbert> BiKER-JENS: command line
[20:58] <bazhang> !ebox | BiKER-JENS
[20:58] <Topknoticus> gnutbert: checking it out now, ty. Will let you know.
[20:58] <chini> Zoffix_: any idea why it is so?
[20:58] <Zoffix_> chini, no clue. :)
[20:59] <chini> can any one explain to why 127.0.1.1 is defined by default?
[20:59] <chini> Zoffix_: it is strange.
[20:59] <hgelpme> soreau: cool sorry i didnt know you could type into the field (facepalm) but thanks for the help hope it works :D
[21:00] <soreau> hgelpme: It will ;)
[21:00] <hgelpme> soreau: :D last question, how much swap space d oyou recomend for a 64-bit system?
[21:01] <chini> Zoffix_: are there some IPv6 entries defined too?
[21:01] <mkanyicy> chini:  is it giving you problem?
[21:01] <Zoffix_> chini, yup. Here's what I got: http://pastebin.com/J3Di5BxC
[21:01] <luc_> any help, i just do a fresh format and install of ubuntu and it will not load stays on black screen and blinking curser
[21:03] <soreau> hgelpme: Depends on how much system ram.. about 1.5-2.0 times your memory in the system
[21:03] <chini> mkanyicy: may be. I am installing globus toolkit and there is 127.0.1.1 is associated with a name which a script is using. i think the script needs the hostname to be mapped to 127.0.0.1
[21:03] <chini> Zoffix_: thank you.
[21:03] <fission6> how can i trace where an IP came from geographically?
[21:03] <chini> mkanyicy: can you tell me the reason why this is so
[21:03] <hgelpme> soreau: ok kcool thanks a lot
[21:03] <soreau> hgelpme: It's mostly for doing things like suspend-to-ram where the systems memory contents are dumped to hard drive. On linux, to the swap partition
[21:03] <ubun> Hey guys. I got a question. How do i go about changing(upgrading) the graphics card. just switch? do i have to something with the drivers first??? is it possible to screw it up???
[21:03] <hgelpme> soreau: i love you ;P
[21:04] <soreau> hgelpme: I wish I could say the same :P
[21:04] <fission6> any ideas?
[21:06] <kamilka> Hi guys :)
[21:07] <Topknoticus> gnutbert: looks like I was able to add a user, and login with it. tyvm.
[21:07] <Topknoticus> gnutbert: next step is understanding why a 'Passive connection' is failing.
[21:07] <ubun> Hey guys. I got a question. How do i go about changing(upgrading) the graphics card. just switch? do i have to something with the drivers first??? is it possible to screw it up???
[21:07] <luc_> hi any help with fresh format and install has black screen and blinking curser
[21:08] <ubun> luc: when i had to do that i used dban to clean the harddrive and then installed ubuntu after
[21:08] <jrtech> luc_:  check video xard
[21:09] <ubun> luc_: i would do what jrtech said
[21:09] <luc_> i used disk utilities to format
[21:09] <jrtech> luc_:  what o/s
[21:09] <luc_> 11.04
[21:10] <luc_> nvidia card
[21:10] <zykotick9_> luc_, if you have an ati or nvidia video card you might want to try nomodeset see "/msg ubottu nomodeset"
[21:11] <jrtech> luc_:  it can either hardware or driver issue for the video card
[21:11] <ubun> luc_: if you want to do a fresh install on an HD- that has possible errors. i used DBAN to clean the hd completely, then i did a fresh install. (if that is what the problem is.)
[21:11] <luc_> where do u get dban at
[21:12] <ubun> luc_: google it. but that is a no turning back option. make sure you have to do it first.
[21:12] <shooter> slt les linuxiens
[21:12] <luc_> it worked in live cd mod
[21:12] <Lasers> luc_: Google "dban" -- It should be on top of the search result.
[21:13] <TrueColors> how do I check if Im running 32 or 64bit ubuntu
[21:13] <ubun> luc_: so you could use it in live cd., but not with the install?
[21:13] <TrueColors> oh
[21:13] <TrueColors> system information states...
[21:13] <TrueColors> (x86_64)
[21:13] <TrueColors> is that 64 bit?
[21:14] <ubun> yes
[21:14] <luc_> so the ubuntu formatted isn't any good then
[21:14] <TrueColors> ok ty
[21:14] <luc_> yes
[21:15] <ubun> luc_: well, did you download the 32bit or 64bit? what is your computer?
[21:15] <mcl0vin> can someone please help me with lm-sensors module
[21:15] <Lasers> TrueColors: "uname -m"
[21:15] <luc_> not sure
[21:15] <mcl0vin> i cant get it to work :(
[21:15] <luc_> ihad windows 7 64 bit on here before
[21:16] <TrueColors> how can I check what graphic cards are installed?
[21:16] <bindi> TrueColors: lspci | grep VGA
[21:16] <mcl0vin> lspci
[21:16] <zykotick9_> TrueColors, "lspci | grep -i vga" as alternative
[21:16] <tomodachi> mcl0vin: 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP79 PCI Express Bridge (rev b1)
[21:16] <ubun> luc_:if you had 64 bit windows then you can have ubuntu 64bit
[21:16] <tomodachi> 00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP79 PCI Express Bridge (rev b1)
[21:16] <TrueColors> ty.
[21:17] <jrtech> luc_:  boot with live distribution cd and see if there log with error regarding video card
[21:17] <tomodachi> 00:15.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP79 PCI Express Bridge (rev b1)
[21:17] <tomodachi> 00:16.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP79 PCI Express Bridge (rev b1)
[21:17] <TrueColors> i opened up additional drivers, and thats gort my graphics card in it
[21:17] <tomodachi> 00:17.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP79 PCI Express Bridge (rev b1)
[21:17] <FloodBot1> tomodachi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <mcl0vin> luc_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dban
[21:17] <TrueColors> not suppose to use lmgtfy
[21:17] <fission6> is there any sites that create a url i can have a user click and find out their IP?
[21:18] <zykotick9_> mcl0vin, don't use lmgtfy in this channel, it's not helpful/funny
[21:18] <mcl0vin> i didn't know that , sorry
[21:18] <fission6> or does someone have a link and a log opened?
[21:19] <zykotick9_> fission6, http://www.whatsmyip.org/
[21:19] <luc_> live cd works
[21:19] <luc_> no error messages
[21:20] <mcl0vin> can someone assist me with lm-sensors please to work with ubuntu 10
[21:20] <mcl0vin> luc_: what are you trying to accomplish
[21:20] <Lasers> mcl0vin: See !sensors?
[21:20] <mcl0vin> !sensors
[21:20] <jrtech> luc_:  if you are seeing the cusor and black screen possible you at console neet to start x
[21:20] <fission6> zykotick9_: no i mean like almost a unique url shortnet which i can have someone click and then see there IP
[21:21] <mcl0vin> Lasers: ok i am stuck with that right there
[21:21] <Lasers> mcl0vin: Which part?
[21:21] <zykotick9_> fission6, that like does that?  it shows you your current external IP address.
[21:21] <fission6> yea my current IO
[21:21] <fission6> IP
[21:21] <luc_> install ubuntu in a fresh formt and install with out freezing on black screen
[21:21] <TrueColors> I'm on the new 11.04 theme now, it lets me use it after i installed my graphics card (whats the theme called again?) how do I access preferences?
[21:21] <fission6> i want to see "theirs"
[21:21] <zykotick9_> fission6, don't know of such a service no, good luck.
[21:22] <mcl0vin> Lasers: sensors-detect
[21:22] <mcl0vin> !paste
[21:22] <Lasers> mcl0vin: Well -- Did you run "sudo sudo sensors-detect" -- What was the result? One word is usually not helpful.
[21:23] <zykotick9_> mcl0vin, FYI you can use "/msg ubottu FOO" to get factoids privately
[21:23] <jrtech> luc_:  ok use the live cd to the installation you did
[21:23] <luc_> jrtech, what does that mean
[21:23] <mcl0vin> Lasers: yes yes i know am trying to paste it for you, so just give me a sec :)
[21:23] <Lasers> mcl0vin: Just report YES/YES/YES to all questions.
[21:23] <luc_> jtrucks, yes it works
[21:24] <quem> good evening. any duplicity users around?
[21:24] <mcl0vin> Lasers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/687161/
[21:24] <luc_> jrtech, yes it works
[21:25] <jrtech> luc_:  boot with the live cd and it should mount your hhd
[21:25] <Lasers> mcl0vin: What does "sensors" report?
[21:25] <yangs> hi
[21:25] <jrtech> check if any error log
[21:25] <mcl0vin> Lasers: No sensors found! Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
[21:26] <yangs> hello everyone
[21:26] <jrtech> luc_:  yes I know the live cd work
[21:27] <Lasers> mcl0vin: Meh. Try installing ipmisensors (if it exists?) then reboot. And try "sensors" afterward.
[21:27] <jrtech> luc_:  use it to try resolve you issue
[21:27] <Lasers> mcl0vin: Did you reboot though? (Usually it works right away for me).
[21:28] <Lasers> mcl0vin: If it didn't work -- then well. :(
[21:28] <mcl0vin> Lasers: numoruse of times
[21:29] <mcl0vin> Lasers: apt-cache search ipmisensors return nothing
[21:29] <jrtech> try install different o/s luc_
[21:29] <luc_> jrtech, but how though
[21:29] <Lasers> mcl0vin: Then you can't view sensors for unknown reasons. Sorry. It's pretty straightforward steps -- but I guess your machine is incompatible.
[21:29] <mcl0vin> luc_: what problem are you having ?
[21:31] <luc_> mcl0vin, black screen on start up after fresh format and fresh install of ubuntu 11.04  from windows 7
[21:31] <luc_> mcl0vin, live cd works perfect
[21:31] <mcl0vin> luc_: do you see bios screen thu
[21:32] <mcl0vin> luc_: laptop or desktop?
[21:32] <luc_> mcl0vin,  i can start to it if i hold f2 down
[21:32] <luc_> mcl0vin, desktop
[21:32] <james> im back
[21:34] <srgjames> i gots me a new issue
[21:34] <lampros> #hellas
[21:34] <mcl0vin> luc_: try to re-seat you video card just for gigs
[21:35] <quem> anyone know if i can trust the --asynchronous-upload option for duplicity? :)
[21:35] <luc_> mcl0vin, ok
[21:35] <soreau> luc_: What graphics card is it?
[21:35] <srgjames> trying to get runescape.com to work but when go to java.com to download java it says application not found
[21:35] <luc_> nvidia
[21:35] <mcl0vin> Lasers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/687167/
[21:35] <mneptok> srgjames: install via the package manager
[21:35] <soreau> luc_: Have you tried booting with nomodeset?
[21:36] <mcl0vin> Lasers: you think any of these might cause a conflict
[21:36] <srgjames> package manager
[21:36] <mneptok> !java > srgjames
[21:37] <mcl0vin> luc_: also, if you desktop got a built in vedio card , try to use that
[21:37] <mcl0vin> luc_: remove your video card and then try to use the built-in one
[21:38] <soreau> mcl0vin: Thats a bit of an extreme suggestion IMHO, especially since the live session reportedly works ok
[21:38] <Lasers> mcl0vin: I don't know. Try installing sensord and run the daemon. See if you get anything. Otherwise, I really have no solution for you.
[21:39] <srgjames> im confused
[21:39] <mcl0vin> soreau: true... but could be some weird config causing that
[21:39] <mcl0vin> i see that happining
[21:39] <mcl0vin> *i ve seen that happining b4
[21:39] <soreau> mcl0vin: So address the config problem instead
[21:40] <david> soreau: you still here?
[21:40] <soreau> david: nope ;)
[21:40] <Guest90280> soreau: my nick before was hgelpme
[21:41] <soreau> Guest90280: Well please change it to that
[21:41] <Topknoticus> Question: can anyone here help me with vsftpd? I cannot get it to work with 'Passive Mode'
[21:41] <soreau> Guest90280: /nick hgelpme
[21:41] <luc_> soreau, what is that
[21:41] <soreau> ! nomodeset | luc_
[21:42] <linusoleander> Anyone knows what permission that should be used for ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[21:42] <linusoleander> ?
[21:42] <hgelpme> soreau: when linux boots now fails to mount the /media/shared partition for some reason
[21:42] <soreau> hgelpme: Are you sure the partition was actually created successfully?
[21:43] <soreau> hgelpme: Try to see what sudo fdisk -l says
[21:43] <hgelpme> soreau: 2 seks
[21:44] <negger> I SAID HOW DO I TAKE A LIST OF PACKAGES SEPARATED BY CARRIAGE RETURNS AND PIPE THEM INTO APTITUDE TO INSTALL THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[21:44] <negger> I SAID HOW DO I TAKE A LIST OF PACKAGES SEPARATED BY CARRIAGE RETURNS AND PIPE THEM INTO APTITUDE TO INSTALL THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[21:44] <negger> I SAID HOW DO I TAKE A LIST OF PACKAGES SEPARATED BY CARRIAGE RETURNS AND PIPE THEM INTO APTITUDE TO INSTALL THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[21:44] <negger> I SAID HOW DO I TAKE A LIST OF PACKAGES SEPARATED BY CARRIAGE RETURNS AND PIPE THEM INTO APTITUDE TO INSTALL THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[21:44] <negger> I SAID HOW DO I TAKE A LIST OF PACKAGES SEPARATED BY CARRIAGE RETURNS AND PIPE THEM INTO APTITUDE TO INSTALL THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[21:44] <FloodBot1> negger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <dorkmafia> is there a quicklook type application for ubuntu?
[21:44] <Lasers> !ops | negger <3
[21:45] <Myrtti> Lasers: er, you're a bit lat4e
[21:45] <rww> Lasers: yes, we know, FloodBot told us :)
[21:45] <mcl0vin> Lasers: ok, i installed sensord how do i run it
[21:45] <Lasers> Myrtti, rww: Ah. I just saw it. Nobody reported so I... <3 you.
[21:45] <Lasers> mcl0vin: Try "sudo service sensord start"
[21:46] <Lasers> mcl0vin: You have incompatible machine for the sensors -- That's what I really think.
[21:46] <mcl0vin> Lasers: it fail :( . its a Dell server
[21:47] <Lasers> mcl0vin: You could try #ubuntu-server -- but yes, I have many machines and they all works great with sensors. :)
[21:48] <dorkmafia> is there an application on ubuntu that has the same functionality as quicklook on osx?
[21:48] <dorkmafia> :)
[21:48] <soreau> dorkmafia: It might help if you explained what quicklook does since some havent used it
[21:49] <fabio> salve a tutti
[21:50] <soreau> hm. not french is it?
[21:50] <bazhang> !it | fabio
[21:50] <dorkmafia> sure thing when you select a file and press space a preview of the file opens up
[21:50] <anasem> hi all
[21:50] <hgelpme> soreau: i cant get on the internet right now because of driver issues, so i cant give you a precise copy paste. but i does show /dev/sda& witch is the only partition that is formated as fat32
[21:50] <dorkmafia> at least for some file types so for example if it's a image a quick view of the image shows up
[21:51] <dorkmafia> fabio boun giorno?
[21:51] <bazhang> dorkmafia, in irc client? or desktop app or what
[21:51] <hgelpme> soreau: and it says that partition 1 (the windows partition) does not end on cylinder one
[21:51] <bazhang> dorkmafia, its english only here please
[21:52] <Krenair> Running Ubuntu 11.04 with gnome classic desktop. Some of the elements on the pannels have a funny right click context menu look
[21:52] <dorkmafia> desktop client
[21:52] <soreau> hgelpme: Now check /etc/fstab and see if things match up there
[21:52] <anasem> how can i register an account on irc
[21:52] <Krenair> There it has space for one less option than is displayed
[21:52] <bazhang> dorkmafia, desktop client? for what
[21:52] <Krenair> So everything gets crammed in and it looks weird
[21:52] <bazhang> anasem, check #freenode
[21:52] <Skummel> anasem /msg nickserv help
[21:52] <dorkmafia> bazhang scroll up to see my full question :)
[21:53] <hgelpme> soreau: what is the comand for that? (im not werry good aat terminal)
[21:53] <soreau> hgelpme: gedit /etc/fstab
[21:53] <bazhang> dorkmafia, no need I read it. still not clear, unless you mean via nautilus
[21:53] <hgelpme> soreau :)
[21:53] <Fatalnix> Hey
[21:54] <Fatalnix> just showing someone IRC.
[21:54] <dorkmafia> https://launchpad.net/gloobus-preview
[21:54] <dorkmafia> i think this is what i'm looking for
[21:55] <Krenair> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10971457/Weird%20right%20click%20context%20menu.png
[21:55] <Krenair> 11.04. Any ideas?
[21:56] <Lasers> Krenair: Dunno. Wait until 11.10 comes out and see if it's same behavior. Or go ahead and search for it on bug report / file a bug report.
[21:56] <tensorpudding> heh
[21:56] <Lasers> Could be just a theme.
[21:56] <tensorpudding> the new context menus are ribbed for your pleasure
[21:56] <Krenair> Lasers: 11.10 doesn't have the classic desktop AFAIK.
[21:56] <Krenair> I think there's gnome-session-fallback but I wont be upgrading to 11.10 for that reason.
[21:57] <Krenair> I am using the default theme
[21:59] <Lasers> Krenair: Try different theme and see if that's the same thing.
[22:00] <hgelpme> soreau: i have no idea what i am looking at but what do you want to know?'
[22:01] <soreau> hgelpme: fstab is what tells linux how to mount what filesystems where
[22:01] <soreau> hgelpme: Most times the uuids can be confusing but there should be some helpful comments
[22:02] <hgelpme> soreau: ah ok, the comments is marked with #?
[22:02] <soreau> hgelpme: Correct
[22:02] <timothy> hello i am new to ubuntu. i am trying to access files off of my windows computer through the network but i do not see any of my other computer on the network. can someone help?
[22:02] <soreau> ! samba | timothy
[22:02] <timothy> ok thank you.
[22:11] <neave> what does it mean if 'sudo lshw -C network' produces no output?
[22:14] <chini> what is ubuntu's preferred way of creating a daemon: inetd, xinetd or some home grown method like in Gentoo and Archlinux?
[22:14] <usr13> inetd
[22:14] <BiKER-JENS> I'm in love with my ubuntu server
[22:15] <chini> usr13: thank you.
[22:15] <FollowerOfMendax> if i have AMD Turion X2 should i use i386 or AMD64?
[22:17] <usr13> neave: Could mean that you have no network
[22:17] <aeon-ltd> FollowerOfMendax: 64 X2?
[22:17] <FollowerOfMendax> aeon-ltd yes
[22:17] <skegeek> Hey all
[22:18] <chini> I did not know ubuntu provided globus toolkit. do you have a wiki where I can check the configuration? I don't have to do everything by hand then as it seems.
[22:18] <dorkmafia> I have a 30 GB hard drive I would like to install ubuntu on I downloaded the latest 64 iso from the website… I'm trying to install ubuntu to my desktop… it's a windows box… that I plan on triple booting from :)
[22:18] <skegeek> Has Ubuntu had any big changes in the past year or so, other than Unity?
[22:18] <aeon-ltd> FollowerOfMendax: 64bit then use amd64 but both should be fine (it's all preference though there are some bugs that are in 64bit that are not in 32bit)
[22:18] <usr13> skegeek: /msg ubottu !globus
[22:19] <corecode> any reason not to use a swap file?
[22:19] <luc_> still boots to black screen even after 2 fresh installs
[22:19] <corecode> i mean, swap file vs swap partition?
[22:20] <chadwin> hey guys
[22:20] <Gnea> corecode: partition is more efficient
[22:20] <usr13> swap partition is better
[22:20] <aeon-ltd> corecode: virtually the same performance on sata hdds, though a partition can be mounted on other distros on your hdd
[22:20] <dorkmafia> how big of a usb drive do i need to put the usb installer on there?
[22:20] <treydogg> corecode: swap partition = shorter disk reads
[22:20] <aeplus> 1GB is good enough
[22:20] <usr13> dorkmafia: 2G
[22:20] <corecode> Gnea: https://lkml.org/lkml/2006/5/29/3
[22:20] <skegeek> ubottu doesn't seem to know about globus
[22:20] <usr13> aeplus: is correct.
[22:21] <treydogg> depends on hwo much ram you have.. think of the swap partition as a NT pagefile
[22:21] <chini> usr13: the packages are provided in the repo but there is no wiki it seems.
[22:21] <corecode> treydogg: ssd
[22:21] <usr13> chini: What are you trying to do?
[22:21] <treydogg> corecode:  how big is the ssd and how much ram?
[22:21] <corecode> 120GB, 8GiB
[22:22] <corecode> mostly for hibernate
[22:22] <chini> usr13: install globus toolkit and setup certificates so that I can tinker with gridftp
[22:22] <treydogg> corecode:  meh.. 1GB is plenty
[22:22] <corecode> treydogg: but hibernate
[22:22] <luc_> anybody can i install 11.04 to my  old windows drive and keep all my files and use them
[22:22] <dorkmafia> thanks so currently I'm on a my mac but I plan on installing ubuntu to my pc… does it matter if I create the usb install drive on my mac?
[22:23] <treydogg> luc: yes
[22:23] <aeon-ltd> luc_: yes by dualbooting, you'll still be able to access the win partition by mounting
[22:23] <aeon-ltd> dorkmafia: not really, no
[22:23] <skegeek> Any ideas why applications I run aren't available on the bottom panel? They used to be there similar to Windows Taskbar...
[22:23] <treydogg> corecode:  you shouldn't have any issues with hibernation
[22:23] <DeadmanIncJS> im on blogtv right now, and for some ungodly reason, when i hit the spacebar, the web page scrolls down... any reason why?
[22:23] <Gnea> corecode: a file can be accidentally removed, a partition cannot
[22:24] <luc_> aeon-ltd, i had to take my other drive out and replace it
[22:24] <dorkmafia> aeon-ltd: what about triple booting? win7, ubuntu, osx86
[22:24] <treydogg> skgeek: what desktop manager?
[22:24] <aeon-ltd> corecode: on a ssd though why hibernate?
[22:24] <Gnea> hibernate would kill an SSD
[22:24] <treydogg> dork:  shouldn't be an issue I quad boot, ubuntu, winxp, windows7 and solarius
[22:24] <corecode> Gnea: why?
[22:24] <corecode> treydogg: i guess i need at least as much swap as i have memory
[22:25] <skegeek> Gnome
[22:25] <corecode> aeon-ltd: alternative?
[22:25] <aeon-ltd> dorkmafia: what do you mean?
[22:25] <Gnea> corecode: because SSD's don't have the shelf-life that platter-based HDD's do in regards to the number of I/O that their overall lifespan can support
[22:25] <treydogg> corecode: that's plenty of space for a 1gb swap partition what is your reason for asking?
[22:25] <luc_> aeon-ltd, i pit in a drive from my other c omp and wiped the drive clean and tried to install 11.04 but it will not startup
[22:25] <treydogg> codecore:  NNNAAHHH
[22:25] <corecode> Gnea: true, but how does that make your point?
[22:25] <Gnea> corecode: are you on a laptop?
[22:25] <corecode> treydogg: oh, perfect then
[22:25] <domino14> does anyone know what this means in my syslog?
[22:25] <domino14> INFO: task jbd2/sda1-8:168 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[22:26] <CodeOmegaPrime> I resized my windows 7 NTFS partition and created empty space, burned the Ubuntu 11.04 install CD, went through the install, selected install next to windows everything went fine. Computer rebooted right back into windows, no option for for booting into Ubuntu. I looked in Windows Disk Manager the partitions were created and seem to be there just fine. Any recomendations on how I should move
[22:26] <CodeOmegaPrime> forward I do not want to break windows, and I deffinatly do not want to break grub that lives on the Ubuntu partition.
[22:26] <Gnea> corecode: my point isn't to provide a definite solution for you, but to help guide you in the direction of a solution that will work best for your situation
[22:26] <treydogg> corecode:  I use a ssd in my carpc.. 1GB works PERFECT, and I have no probs withhibernation
[22:26] <escott> !grub | CodeOmegaPrime
[22:26] <aeon-ltd> luc_: was the install a success? if so was it set to boot first in the BIOS?
[22:26] <DeadmanIncJS> re-install GRUB
[22:26] <dorkmafia> aeon-ltd: currently I have windows 7 installed on one hard drive. I want to install ubuntu on a separate hdd and then osx (hackintosh) on a third hard drive
[22:27] <treydogg> codeomegaorime:  reinstall grub
[22:27] <luc_> aeon-ltd, yes and yes
[22:27] <corecode> Gnea: yea, you're not helping.  also i would say that you are wrong.  hibernate will not write so much to the ssd to destroy it in any significantly faster way; at least not if you hibernate once or twice a day
[22:27] <luc_> aeon-ltd, just get a black screen with blinking curser
[22:27] <treydogg> domino:  run an fsck
[22:28] <CodeOmegaPrime> treydogg, thats the problem I dont even get to grub it just loads me into windows.
[22:28] <aeon-ltd> dorkmafia: creating the usb install stick, it doesn't matter about the host if done correctly as long as it can boot by the BIOS it's fine
[22:28] <treydogg> codeomegaprime:  boot to your live cd
[22:28] <Gnea> corecode: you're not paying me, I don't have to. when hibernate occurs, it writes everything to the swap, whether it's a partition or file matters not.  a write is a write.
[22:28] <dorkmafia> ok thanks
[22:28] <escott> CodeOmegaPrime, we dont know why your grub didn't work, but the first thing is to follow the instructions above and reinstall grub
[22:29] <dorkmafia> what controls the booting for ubuntu is there a boot manager or do i just select the drive I want by using the bios?
[22:29] <CodeOmegaPrime> escott: ok ty I will read it and be back.
[22:29] <aeon-ltd> luc_: how many times have you tried?
[22:29] <skegeek> I'm using Gnome 2.32.1
[22:29] <luc_> aeon-ltd, 4 or 5
[22:29] <aeon-ltd> luc_: if 64bit is it supported by the cpu?
[22:30] <luc_> aeon-ltd, even zorin same thing
[22:30] <escott> dorkmafia, usually grub is used but the hackintosh loaders will recognize and load linux
[22:30] <dorkmafia> k thanks
[22:30] <Gnea> corecode: the point is that the hibernate process will use more i/o on your ssd than a standard shutdown/bootup process will, per instance.
[22:30] <corecode> Gnea: then let me put it in a different way: you are wrong and are confusing people with wrong advice
[22:30] <luc_> aeon-ltd, yes windows 7 was 64 bit
[22:30] <corecode> Gnea: ah, of course
[22:30] <corecode> Gnea: but that does not mean that it will break the ssd
[22:30] <Gnea> corecode: feel free to prove me wrong, not with your pointless rhetoric, but with fact.
[22:31] <aeon-ltd> luc_: describe the boot process
[22:31] <luc_> aeon-ltd, live cd works perfect
[22:31] <aeon-ltd> wait a sec i'm gonna leave but i'll be back
[22:31] <treydogg> corecode:  you can edit the boot.ini as well, but when you install ubuntu it should automatically see the windows partition
[22:31] <skegeek> I've been considering switching to Xfce, maybe I should make the switch instead of trying to fix it.
[22:32] <luc_> aeon-ltd, goes through start then bios steps then to black screen
[22:32] <corecode> Gnea: you stated that ssds die because of hibernate, so you are the one who will have to show facts
[22:32] <Gnea> corecode: it means that the ssd is more likely to break sooner, if the i/o load over the lifespan of the drive is high, than if a similar i/o load is presented over a similar timeframe to a platter-based drive.
[22:33] <corecode> Gnea: yes
[22:33] <Gnea> corecode: negative, I said that they will die faster than platter-based drives.  you are the one that arrived to that conclusion on your own.
[22:33] <corecode> Gnea: fair enough, then i misunderstood you
[22:33] <Gnea> corecode: it happens
[22:33] <dataspy> i love ubuntu
[22:33] <corecode> the option here is not platter vs ssd
[22:33] <corecode> for me it is "how much swap do i need for hibernate"
[22:34] <Gnea> corecode: I usually go with twice the amount of ram
[22:34] <Gnea> if I have 2g ram, a 4g swap partition (or file) will suffice
[22:34] <escott> corecode, hibernate swap >= ram + running swap
[22:34] <sum1nil> I object to the lack of support for ati in Oneiric!!!
[22:34] <vehemoth> I deleted my Documents folder and then created a folder by the same name, do I just right click and set a picture for it to be like before?
[22:35] <Gnea> sum1nil: ATI seems to not care about your feelings on the matter.
[22:35] <corecode> escott: that's recursive :)
[22:35] <corecode> Gnea: yea, but 16GB swap seems quite excessive
[22:35] <aeon-ltd> luc_: okay, can you descibe the boot process?
[22:35] <escott> corecode, running swap is not the same as hibernate swap
[22:35] <corecode> escott: ah?
[22:35] <escott> corecode, what i mean by running swap is the swap your system actually uses when running
[22:35] <corecode> ah ok
[22:36] <VampsWin7> can anyone tell me what i would search for to find, install and add the launching icons to the dock/launcher/menu bar?
[22:36] <escott> VampsWin7, alacarte
[22:36] <luc_> aeon-ltd, starts then bios steps then black screen with blinking curser
[22:36] <sum1nil> well it put the k-bob on Oneiric for now for my laptop.]
[22:36] <VampsWin7> escott : is that a package making things easy to use?
[22:36] <Gnea> corecode: I suppose it depends how much HDD space you've got to work with. Entropy is a well-known occurance with computers.
[22:36] <escott> !info alacarte | VampsWin7
[22:37] <corecode> Gnea: 110GB :/
[22:37] <dorkmafia> I downloaded ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso from the ubuntu website does that mean I downloaded the amd version? Is there an intel version?
[22:37] <corecode> i'm trying to do a ubuntu in luks in gpt/uefi
[22:37] <Gnea> corecode: that's not bad, gives you 94G. it's not like you're creating a stash of movies, right? :)
[22:37] <VampsWin7> dorkmafia : NO you downloaded the 64 bit of Ubuntu
[22:37] <Myrtti> dorkmafia: amd64 is the codename for 64-bit processors
[22:37] <aeon-ltd> luc_: no GRUB? (holding Esc or shift depending on the version)
[22:37] <corecode> Gnea: no, but i'm close with my current homedir
[22:38] <luc_> aeon-ltd, what on start up or on black screen
[22:38] <Gnea> corecode: aaah, perhaps it might be time to come up with a backup solution
[22:38] <dorkmafia> oh ok
[22:38] <aeon-ltd> luc_: on start up then if grub shows there should be some options
[22:38] <dorkmafia> phew
[22:39] <corecode> Gnea: :)
[22:39] <corecode> 8GB it is
[22:39] <treydogg> luc:  keep pressing 'e'
[22:39] <Gnea> corecode: if necessary, you can always create a swapfile and add it on-demand to increase your overall swap - that might help with any possible hibernation issues in the future
[22:40] <luc_> aeon-ltd, u mean my bios setup
[22:40] <VampsWin7> escott : think you may have misunderstood what i was looking for.. let me try to reword it. I am lookin for something to allow me to add remove and find the "applets" like sound, networks, and the like to the menu/dock/launcher
[22:40] <Gnea> corecode: concursively, you can always delete it :)
[22:40] <escott> VampsWin7, start them first, then right click on the icon and pin it
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> luc_: no, after the bios boot (after POST)
[22:41] <dans> is there a way of booting one partition inside a window in another (both linux)? im tired of rebooting over and over to try and get my gnome3 working
[22:41] <luc_> aeon-ltd, nothing
[22:41] <escott> dans, you are describing a virtualmachine, but its not really appropriate. what is happening with gnome3
[22:42] <dans> i am, why is it not appropriate?
[22:42] <corecode> ext4 still suggested in oneiric?
[22:42] <dans> im just having trouble getting it to recognise the display, its an arch installation
[22:42] <escott> corecode, btrfs is still a good 6months+ away from being anyones suggested FS
[22:43] <dans> fglrxinfo returns unable to open display and i get module load errors in Xorg.5.log
[22:43] <CodeOmegaPrime> Will GRUB2 Detect Windows 7 64bit?
[22:43] <gateway_> hello, is anyone there?
[22:43] <Gnea> corecode: oops, that should have been 'conversely'
[22:43] <gateway_> I'm trying to use my blackberry as a tethered modem on my ubuntu
[22:43] <escott> CodeOmegaPrime, it should
[22:44] <VampsWin7> escott : when you open the add to panel what is the name of the objects you are adding
[22:44] <luc_> aeon-ltd, if i install on my other drive will i beable to access them and burn them to a disc
[22:44] <CodeOmegaPrime> escott: Ok just making sure did some additional research and saw there was some issues with that awhile back. I just wanted to make sure they were either A)Resolved or B)Just people doing things they shouldnt LOL probobly B
[22:45] <VampsWin7> CodeOmegaPrime : my main tower has both Ubuntu x64 Natty and Win 7 install.. grub recognized and setup so that i can boot to either
[22:45] <escott> VampsWin7, im assuming you are running unity, and that you start the application from the "Windows Key Menu", then on the left panel you can right click the icon for the running application and keep it on the panel
[22:46] <CodeOmegaPrime> VampsWin7 TY ok brb  going to re-install grub2
[22:47] <aeon-ltd> luc_: burn what? the install ISOs?
[22:47] <VampsWin7> escott L i'm runing Ubuntu CLassic. i'm refering to when you right click on the Menu bar and the submenu allows you to add what i believe is applets, but that's what i'm tryin to figure out.
[22:47] <aeon-ltd> luc_: if you can just try this boot but hold shift throughout
[22:47] <escott> VampsWin7, for classic i think you want to add a "launcher" applet
[22:48] <gateway_> well, heck, still waiting for someone to talk to me about blackberry tethered modems
[22:48] <luc_> aeon-ltd, no my files on my 2nd drive i have in my computer
[22:49] <VampsWin7> escott : not a launcher, i want to find more of the packages like trash bin, desktop switcher, network setup, email notify, and the link
[22:49]  * Gnea is so glad to have gotten rid of his blackberry
[22:49] <VampsWin7> like**
[22:49] <escott> VampsWin7, i guess make sure that the gnome-applets package. its been a long time since ive used classic. sorry
[22:50] <aeon-ltd> luc_: yes, but what other OSes do you have on the pc (all hdds that work)
[22:50] <corecode> oh wow the oneiric installer is nice
[22:50] <VampsWin7> escott : understandable. so the icons left in the dock for trash bin and desktop switcher are called applets?
[22:51] <escott> VampsWin7, yes
[22:51] <VampsWin7> escott : is there a way to easily search for different applets that are available?
[22:52] <VampsWin7> escott : SMP makes it a little tricky to find them easily.
[22:52] <VampsWin7> err SPM
[22:52] <luc_> aeon-ltd, some screen came up with ubuntu with 5 options on it
[22:52] <escott> VampsWin7, it should list them all when you click on the panel. verify that you are right clicking on the panel itself and not on an applet in the panel. if your panel is full it may be hard to find a pixel that will get you the panel menu instead of an applet
[22:53] <VampsWin7> escott : correct that does work, but is there a resource to find others that are out there? like the Package Managers does .
[22:54] <luc_> aeon-ltd, checking disk for defect now
[22:54] <aeon-ltd> luc_: whilst doing the shift thing?
[22:55] <escott> VampsWin7, most of the more popular ones should be packaged up, but they dont generally come individually
[22:55] <luc_> aeon-ltd, yes
[22:55] <aeon-ltd> luc_: good this is progress
[22:55] <corecode> meh, grub setup fail
[22:56] <VampsWin7> escott : aww ok, thanks. the snypatic package manager will still find others that exist either mainstream or otherwise correct?
[22:56] <luc_> aeon-ltd, it is finding a lot of errors reading sectors
[22:57] <escott> VampsWin7, no you would have to compile non-packaged applets from source. I'm not sure where you can find them
[22:57] <murielgodoi> hi guys. How can I add a flag then using dpkg-builpackage?
[22:57] <escott> corecode, any errors?
[22:57] <VampsWin7> escott : got ya now. thanks for the info.
[22:57] <luc_> aeon-ltd, can i install to mt 1tb drive that has all my files on it before from windows 7
[22:58] <luc_> aeo screen is half green now
[22:59] <aeon-ltd> luc_: static or is there some changes happening?
[22:59] <escott> luc_, errors reading sectors is concerning. use the disk utility tool to check the SMART status of the disk
[23:00] <luc_> aeon-ltd, dont know all most full green
[23:01] <luc_> aeon-ltd, as bad sector reads it goes up a line green
[23:02] <aeon-ltd> luc_: hmm okay iguess :) i'd just wait it out for a while
[23:02] <murielgodoi> How can I add a cflag then using dpkg-builpackage?
[23:03] <luc_> aeon-ltd, if i disconect my other drive do u think thats the problem because it was i ntfs
[23:04] <luc_> aeon-ltd, full green screen now
[23:04] <aeon-ltd> luc_: other drives should not affect the OS on another drive
[23:05] <aeon-ltd> luc_: now we play the waiting game
[23:06] <luc_> aeon-ltd, thats what happened to my windows 7 when i live cd ubuntu on it
[23:07] <luc_> aeon-ltd, should i just turn it off
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> luc_: how long has it been?
[23:07] <luc_> aeon-ltd, 8 to 12 minutes
[23:08] <luc_> aeon-ltd, still reading errors
[23:08] <aeon-ltd> luc_: where did this hdd come from?
[23:09] <luc_> aeon-ltd,the one i am trying to install to   off of my other comp that had win xp
[23:10] <luc_> aeon-ltd, it worked fine before i took it out
[23:11] <aeon-ltd> luc_: heh the errors say otherwise :) if you are going to restart hold shift and try all possible boot options and see if they lead anywhere
[23:12] <MonkeyDust> off-topic: my ACPI is not really reliable ;) http://paste.ubuntu.com/687206/
[23:13] <zykotick9_> MonkeyDust, @mint-laptop what distro are you using ;)
[23:13] <MonkeyDust> percentage goes down, but number of minutes does not
[23:14] <MonkeyDust> idd zykotick9_ :)
[23:15] <frank_> how do i have to build my PRUNEPATHS in updatedb.conf to tell updatedb to just index one additional mountpoint (iscsi target) but not usb sticks that are occasionally plugged in and left in the usb slot a few days (updatedb runs every night)
[23:17] <luc_> aeon-ltd, im going totry installing 32 bit version
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> luc_: okay, did all boot options not work?
[23:18] <luc_> aeon-ltd, aeo correct
[23:19] <escott> frank_, what about adding vfat to PRUNEFS?
[23:24] <momoru> What's the status of NTFS support nowadays?
[23:24] <bazhang> momoru, very solid
[23:25] <momoru> bazhang, the last time I tried messing around with NTFS, it was read-only.  So I'm assuming write-support is stable now?
[23:25] <bazhang> momoru, for many years now, yes
[23:25] <escott> momoru, there are two ntfs drivers one in kernel which is read only, the other in userspace which can write
[23:25] <escott> momoru, neither can fsck
[23:26] <DeviceZer0> momoru, I dont really write to ntfs..but for reading it has been fine for many years...in the last few years i have read that writing works fine too
[23:26] <DeviceZer0> ntfs-3g being the driver im familiar with.
[23:27] <DeviceZer0> though. There was a bug a long time ago with ntfs-3g that destroyed your data and unfortunately for me...i was effected by it several times...but from what i have read its a rare bug that only effected a small number of ppl.
[23:28] <dorkmafia> so i followed the instructions on this page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download to create a usb stick on the mac and when i tried to boot off the usb stick it said failed to find boot disk
[23:29] <escott> dorkmafia, you probably need bootcamp installed. boot it like it was windows
[23:29] <dorkmafia> no i'm using this on my pc
[23:29] <dorkmafia> i'm just creating the usb key on my mac
[23:30] <escott> dorkmafia, and your bios supports usb devices as boot devices?
[23:30] <dorkmafia> yes
[23:30] <dorkmafia> i have a ud7 x58a
[23:30] <dorkmafia> gigabyte
[23:32] <Aeth> How can I analyze which files all processes have opened? Is there an ideal app for that?
[23:33] <escott> Aeth, lsof will indicate what processes hold a given file open
[23:34] <luc_> aeon-ltd, trying to install now
[23:34] <marvel> boa noite
[23:34] <momoru> I was just curious whether NTFS write-support was safe because I have a 1TB external HD formatted to NTFS with all my files on it.
[23:34] <marvel> pessoal
[23:34] <Aeth> escott: Is there something that is more real-time in monitoring than lsof?
[23:34] <bazhang> !br | marvel
[23:35] <bazhang> momoru, yes very
[23:35] <ProphetZarquon> Intel Centrino2 Core 2 Duo 2.53Ghz, 2gb RAM 128mb video memory (possibly shared?), VM gets 1024mb RAM, 64/128mb video memory (tried both), updates OK, can't verify DirectX. dxdiag crashes the VM. Any ideas why?
[23:35] <bazhang> ProphetZarquon, ubuntu guest? ubuntu host?
[23:36] <ProphetZarquon> Ubuntu 11.04 host, Tiny XP guest which usually works fine with Direct X in PC to PC VMs.
[23:37] <ikonia> ProphetZarquon: what virtualisation ?
[23:37] <bazhang> ProphetZarquon, vbox?
[23:37] <ProphetZarquon> Virtual Box OSE was the only one I could find with video acceleration.
[23:38] <ikonia> I suspect it's not enabled/working hence the dx failure
[23:38] <dorkmafia> my guess is that the usb key didn't get created poperly?
[23:39] <dorkmafia> how big should the installer be for the 64 bit version?
[23:39] <dorkmafia> i am looking at the usb drive and it says ubuntu 11.04 amd
[23:39] <escott> Aeth, /proc?
[23:39] <ProphetZarquon> ikonia, What's not enabled? 3d and 2d acceleration are enabled in the Virtual Box settings and VM Additions are running on the XP guest.
[23:40] <escott> Aeth, or look into any of the kernel tracing functionality
[23:40] <ikonia> ProphetZarquon: it would appear to not be working.....
[23:40] <dorkmafia> capacity on the disk is 732.1 MB
[23:40] <dorkmafia> it should work right?
[23:40] <ProphetZarquon> And it doesn't just fail, it dumps the whole VM. Bam, shut off.
[23:40] <ikonia> ProphetZarquon: I'd call that a failure
[23:41] <escott> dorkmafia, i thought the USB had to be bigger than a CD. 732 may not be big enough
[23:41] <dorkmafia> well that's what it created
[23:42] <ProphetZarquon> Right but it's a test. Failure is a potential test result. I want to be clear that the whole VM exits, not just a "not running" or "not installed" result.
[23:42] <ikonia> ProphetZarquon: whats your localhost host video card ?
[23:42] <ProphetZarquon> What should I try?
[23:43] <ProphetZarquon> Intel integrated video.
[23:43] <ikonia> reasonably well supported
[23:43] <ikonia> ProphetZarquon: I'm wondering if the pass through to the host hardware is failure when it hooks into the hardare module for it
[23:43] <fujin> yo if I'm using debconf-set-selections to preseed values to a package, is there anyway I can reset all of those? manpages don't make it clear.
[23:44] <bazhang> fujin, in debian?
[23:44] <fujin> what? no
[23:44] <fujin> in Ubuntu.
[23:44] <fujin> It's a debian tool, but I'm on ubuntu.
[23:44] <bazhang> fujin, you just asked in #debian , thus my query
[23:45] <fujin> right. It's a tool common to both, part of dpkg/apt.
[23:47] <ProphetZarquon> ikonia, how would I test that?
[23:47] <ikonia> it would be quite hard to test, the easier way is to try it on a different machine to find out if it's specific to that software/hardware combo
[23:47] <ProphetZarquon> Any way to check crash reports from Virtual Box?
[23:48] <mamece2> hello guys, ive erased the swap partition of my ubuntu, how can i restore it?
[23:48] <bazhang> mamece2, erased? how
[23:48] <mamece2> bazhang i went to the partition manager and just click in erase or format, i dont remember
[23:48] <ProphetZarquon> That makes perfect sense. I've been wanting to do that, but don't have another box to turn into Ubuntu right now.
[23:49] <bazhang> mamece2, gparted?
[23:49] <mamece2> now when i try to boot ubuntu 11 i cant get to the desktop, just to the cli. i tried dpkg restore packages but i need a internet conection
[23:50] <walter> hello
[23:50] <mamece2> bazhang it was something similar to gpart, i was in ubuntu 10 when i did it, im almost sure it was with gpart. why?
[23:50] <ProphetZarquon> mamace2, what about an Ubuntu Live CD? Boot to that and repartition?
[23:50] <walter> hello
[23:50] <mamece2> prophetzarquon im right now in the ubuntu live CD, how can i restore what ive done?
[23:52] <mamece2> im opening gpart and wow , i got a lot of partitions, trying to organize this is what made me erase the swap :(
[23:53] <walter> wuzzzzzzzzz  up
[23:53] <nsq> mamece2, its not bad if you erase swap, just create a new swap partition.
[23:53] <bazhang> walter, hello, ubuntu support issue?
[23:53] <walter> no uploading virus to you
[23:54] <ProphetZarquon> Oy, I hear you. I have too many physical drives and hardware & software RAID layers in my tower. Can't make sense of them all anymore.
[23:55] <negger> How do I use aptitude to install package lists from a file
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[23:55] <ProphetZarquon> The swap space should be at (or near) the end of a physical drive, only a few gigs.
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[23:55] <Duolos> I'm running Kubuntu 11.04.  I just installed the ubuntu-desktop packages.  However, when attempting to login to Gnome, I'm shown only an empty desktop.  No panels, no launchers, nothing.  The only way to get out is to restart.  Logging into it in safemode works fine, though.
[23:55] <Duolos> Unity issue?
[23:55] <Graath> ?
[23:55] <Graath>  lib/init/upstart-job is missing on my system after an apt-get upgrade, any way to restore it?
[23:56] <karmst__> Does anyone else's ubuntu go dim on a window sometimes and take forever to respond?
[23:57] <mamece2> nsq all started when i erased wicd
[23:57] <dorkmafia> has anyone else had issues when trying to boot off a usb key?
[23:57] <ProphetZarquon> Duolos perhaps transparency/ other video effects, hence it works in safe mode?
[23:58] <bazhang> dorkmafia, sure, when the key is too small, the md5 does not match, or others
[23:58] <mamece2> i have ubuntu 11 and ubuntu 10, and two swap partition, but i still cant boot ubuntu 11
[23:58] <dr_willis> dorkmafia:  nomrally if the key is made wrong, or system cant boot off usb.
[23:59] <dorkmafia> it's a 4gb usb key...
[23:59] <ProphetZarquon> Ubuntu 11 probably doesn't know which swap partition to use anymore. Can you reach safe mode or any other 11.04 recovery without the CD?
[23:59] <dorkmafia> i just downloaded the ubuntu 11.04 and followed the instrcutions
[23:59] <ikonia> ProphetZarquon: the grub menu has it
[23:59] <mamece2> prophetzarquon yes i can reach safe mode
[23:59] <bazhang> dorkmafia, did you just drag and drop the iso on it?
[23:59] <dorkmafia> no