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twb`Is there an easy way to determine which /usr/bin/qemu-X-static corresponds  to a "debian --print-architecture" architecture string?  e.g. armhf -> arm, amd64 -> x86_6402:56
twb`Plan B is just to copy in qemu-*-static and hope for the best.02:57
tmzttwb`: wouldn't it be -cpu as a command line option03:08
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twb`Well, I'm not actually on armhf at the time, so I don't think I can ask dpkg03:25
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infinitytwb`: Perhaps dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU?03:32
infinitytwb`: Although, if you want to know without being able to run the native arm dpkg, that could be more entertaining.03:33
twb`Let me show you the actual code...03:39
twb`http://paste.debian.net/129496/  (the QemuUserEmulation bit)03:40
twb`IOW I want to know before I can execute arm code03:40
infinitytwb`: dpkg-architecture -aarmhf -qDEB_HOST_GNU_CPU03:52
infinitytwb`: And might want to 2>/dev/null to ignore the whining about gcc mismatches.03:52
infinitytwb`: Assuming that qemu-$arch-static matches the GNU CPU types, that should do it for you.03:53
twb`Ah, thanks03:55
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travalasso running ubuntu 11.04, my beagle board doesn't turn on the usb bus.  but this works fine with angstrom. thoughs?05:45
infinitytravalas: Try the latest oneiric kernel.  I vaguely recall some known issues surrounding USB on beagle.05:47
travalaswhere would I look for that kernel?05:48
infinitytravalas: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.0.0-11-omap_3.0.0-11.17_armel.deb05:53
travalasthanks05:58
twb`lilstevie: what happens if you do "make localyesconfig" and "make localmodconfig" from inside a running TF101?06:15
lilstevietwb`: hmm06:16
lilstevietwb`: I have only done make uImage from inside a running TF10106:16
twb`You don't have to actually build the image there, that just generates the .config06:17
lilsteviehmm06:17
lilsteviewell IDK06:17
twb`I do it on x86_64 and it's handy for getting mostly-right localized/hw-specific .config06:17
twb`I'd check myself but I left the TF101 at home06:17
twb`Why is both MACH_PICASSO and MACH_TF101 set?06:22
lilsteviein the 2.6.38.3 kernel it is set because the guy who did it wove tf101 stuff into picasso06:37
lilstevienot only that is it is common place on these tegra devices06:38
lilsteviethe asus defconfig has both MACH_HARMONY and MACH_VENTANA set06:38
twb`Hum.06:39
twb`Kernel config is pretty overwhelming these days06:39
twb`I end up doing things like grep -r --include Kconfig06:39
lilstevieyeah06:39
lilstevieheh06:39
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twblilstevie: remind me; what doesn't work when booting via u-boot?07:42
lilsteviein the boot process or after boot07:44
twb`Whatever you were saying was needed to boot your CrOS kernel07:45
lilstevieno I mean, what is broken of u-boot or once you are in userland :p07:46
twb`either07:47
twb`both07:47
lilstevieok, most of the u-boot env is broken07:47
twb`"What's the downside of using CrOS + u-boot"07:47
lilsteviewithout attaching to the serial port you have 0 interactivity with u-boot apart from boot.scr07:47
lilstevieyou must use an MBR layout on the emmc07:47
lilstevieand the MBR part must start at a set address07:48
twb`That's not so bad considering I have no interaction with the default bootloader except "use LNX" vs "use SOS"07:48
lilstevieyeah well it is less07:48
lilstevie:p07:48
lilsteviecause you don't even have that07:48
lilsteviewell, I mean you can run a cascase boot07:48
lilstevieso like test dock usb, dock SD emmc07:48
lilstevieµSD is broken too07:49
lilstevieu-boot does not see the card07:49
lilstevieso that is u-boots limitations set out07:49
lilstevieas for the kernel, it is mostly fine07:49
lilsteviewifi works with network manager07:49
twb`"connect serial port" as in open the case and connect to to a jumper header, or like the USB to 40-pin cable?07:49
lilsteviewell I haven't traced out the serial port yet07:50
lilstevieI am certain it plumbs out on the 40pin connector somewhere07:50
lilsteviejust no idea where07:50
twb`So it would mean getting a 40-pin plug and wiring that up to a 9-ping serial port?07:51
twb`*9-pin07:51
lilsteviewell just 3 pins are needed07:51
lilstevietx, rx and common ground07:51
lilsteviewhen I say serial, I mean UART :)07:51
twb`k07:51
twb`I could live with that if I could tell uboot to try booting off the dock's SD card first, and then fall back to the eMMC07:52
twb`That way, I could put a complete kernel and rootfs rescue image on an SD card07:52
lilstevieyeah, just build it in to your scripting07:52
lilstevieI have a small patch which uses some space on emmc for environment variables too :)07:52
twb`I've used systems that have u-boot preinstalled, I haven't installed it before tho07:52
lilstevieheh07:53
twb`Do you build a uboot image and then nvflash --download it to the EBT partition?07:53
lilstevieno07:53
lilstevieit can only be placed in with a --create07:53
lilstevienvflash will not write EBT at any other time07:53
twb`Because nvflash is retarded?07:53
lilstevieprobably07:53
lilstevieDon't know if mini/updater prevent it07:54
lilstevieor if it is just some retardation from nvflash07:54
lilstevieanyway, back to  kernel07:55
lilsteviewith the u-boot kernel most things work07:55
lilsteviein fact nearly everything works07:55
lilstevieexcept the TSP is inverted07:55
lilstevieand clocking is a little off07:55
lilstevieso from time to time the framebuffer corrupts when using acceleration07:56
lilstevieand unexplained slowdowns occur07:56
twb`What determines if a kernel is u-boot compatible vs. ASUS(?) compatible?07:57
lilstevieit seems to be a memory map issue07:58
lilstevieI have been far too busy with uni to properly track it down07:58
twb`What are you studying?08:06
lilstevieeducation08:06
twb`Man, that's a gruelling career08:07
lilstevieheh08:07
ogra_janimo, back from vacation ?09:21
janimoogra_, hello, back09:27
janimolooking into the mx53 scripts now09:27
ogra_janimo, do we have anything for mx5 already ?09:28
ogra_bah i type to slow :)09:28
janimoI'll send you a post-boot script for debian-cd later today09:28
ogra_cool09:28
ogra_that should be all we need09:28
janimolater some changes to jasper as resize needs to deal with the partitioning that is not like on omap09:29
ogra_k09:29
janimobut I still need to check as linaro media create and the factory image that came with the board have slightly different partition layouts09:29
ogra_k, we need to get it in today (and working)09:30
ogra_freeze starts later today09:30
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lilstevieogra_: do you know where persia id hiding?10:12
lilstevieis even10:13
ogra_lilstevie, at home i guess, not sure10:27
lilstevieheh10:27
lilsteviehaven't seen him lately10:27
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ogra_diwic, do you know any good spectrum analyzer SW in the archive (i got that new set of speakers and want to get all the room related issues fixed)11:31
diwicogra_, hmm, no I'm afraid not - I mean, audacity sure has one if you just want to see the frequency spectrum of a recorded wave file12:13
diwicogra_, but maybe you're after something more sofisticated?12:13
ogra_nah, i need something that takes a mic and outputs a sweep through my speakers12:13
ogra_and generates the frequency spectrum from that ... so i can see wheer the speakers are lacking12:14
ogra_and adjust accordingly12:14
ogra_i can do that with my ears, but only to a certain level :)12:14
diwicogra_, hmm, haven't heard of such an app. My receiver has one built in, so I've just used that.12:15
ogra_yeah, mine too ... but that doesnt work well for the subwoofer and base frequencies12:16
ogra_finding the right position in the room for it to eleminate resonances etc12:17
gildeanif you happen to find such a software, i'm interested in hearing how it works out12:17
ogra_i have a very bad room here and i think there are some bad peaks around 30Hz12:17
gildeani also have some ypao-crap built in the amplifier12:18
ogra_if i try to fix that "by ear" i will never stop to experiment :)12:18
ogra_ah, you got a yamaha then12:18
gildeanyeah12:18
* ogra_ is planning to upgrade the amp too ... are you satisfied with yamaha ?12:19
gildeanyes12:19
gildeani've had it for the past 6 years now12:19
gildeanstill working perfectly12:19
ogra_i'm considering the a810 ... but i'm undecided, there are also some good marantz ones in that area12:19
ogra_and they look a lot better :)12:19
gildeanthe sound is balanced and works nicely with my b&w speakers12:19
ogra_the onkyo 508b i have atm is really disappointing since i have speakers that are bigger than plastic cups12:20
ogra_it doesnt really manage to replicate the details properly unless i turn very loud12:21
gildeanyou should also check out the denon models in the pricerange too12:23
gildeanah, and one important point is phono-in12:23
ogra_none of them gets above 100W12:23
gildeanas in if you need one, most amps don't have one anymore12:23
ogra_and i dont need phono in, my LPs are all turned into flac already12:23
ogra_and i also have a pretty good hifi system (i rarely use) i could use to lead my luxman pre-amp through to the surround amp if needed12:24
hrwogra_: with ac100 you are using nvflash to flash it?12:25
ogra_hrw, for the first flashing operation, yeah, later (with teh flashed kernel booted) you can flash locally12:25
lilstevieogra_: so same as me for the tf12:25
ogra_would be cool if someone would write an android installer :)12:26
lilsteviewould be12:26
lilsteviebut meh12:26
lilstevienot going to happen on my device12:26
ogra_something that just grabs the boot.img and goes into flash mode12:26
ogra_same here12:26
lilstevieI need to modify the flash layout12:26
ogra_why is that ?12:27
lilsteviebecause the original layout is a pita12:27
ogra_should be possible though, there are howtos for the ac10012:27
lilstevieboot.img and recovery.img are not within the fs per se12:27
hrwogra_: on device flashing is via mtd subsystem?12:28
lilstevielike the partition table covers a certain portion and boot and recovery are not within it12:28
ogra_hrw, eMMC12:28
ogra_its juts a partition12:28
hrwah12:29
ogra_and you can just dd an image you created with abootimg to it12:30
lilstevieyeah I cant12:30
lilstevieI need to package into an nvidia blob12:30
lilsteviedd to a staging partition12:30
lilsteviethen run through a reboot which flashes it into the correct place12:31
ogra_phew, why ?12:32
ogra_there is code that enables you to see the LNX and SOS partitions from the kernel12:32
lilsteviebecuase of how asus implemented the flash layout12:33
lilstevieand our device does not use tegraparts12:33
ogra_not at all ?12:34
ogra_i thought all tegras use the partition table offset in the tegra sd code12:34
ogra_tegrapart is just to make them visible afaik, theoretically you should have all bits in the kernel already12:34
lilsteviethey use tegra parts for the very minimum12:36
lilsteviebut there is certainly nothing in the kernel to make any of it visable12:37
lilstevieor to use it12:37
lilsteviebecause at a kernel level everything the kernel needs is within the GPT12:38
lilstevieogra_: anyway it is a pain of an implementation12:47
lilstevieI move the kernels, and tack on my partition for ubuntu12:48
lilsteviewhich gnu parted cant do (work on the partitions that is)12:49
rbasakI want to mess with the initrd on the pandaboard, eg. move the root filesystem around. On a normal system I'd run update-initramfs and maybe update-grub as necessary. What do I need to do here to cope with u-boot, to update the u-boot partition with the new initrd?14:14
ogra_rbasak, the same minus update-grub14:35
ogra_rbasak, though, do you want to actually change the initrd content ?14:35
ogra_or just the cmdline14:35
rbasakogra_: I want to change the fstab entry for the root partition, so I think that needs to get duplicated into the initrd14:36
ogra_no14:36
ogra_initrds dont use fstab internally14:36
ogra_you want your root= setting on the cmdline to point to the right uuid14:37
rbasakoh, just the kernel cmdline?14:37
ogra_thats all you need to change14:37
ogra_there should be a /boot/boot.script file, edit it and just run sudo flash-kernel14:37
ogra_(you could run update-initrsamfs toon it calls flash-kernel in the end, if you only want to memorize one command ;) )14:38
rbasakaha14:47
rbasakok, I know why I want to update the initrd14:47
rbasakIt's for /conf/conf.d/cryptroot14:48
rbasak(I always assumed that fstab and crypttab were copied to the initrd, but it looks like update-initramfs generates /conf/conf.d/cryptroot instead)14:48
rbasakso flash-kernel will update the FAT initrd file with the one in /boot?14:49
ogra_right15:05
ogra_as well as vmlinuz and boot.script15:05
GrueMasterrbasak: Morning.  Anything I can do to help?15:10
rbasakhi GrueMaster15:11
rbasakI'm poking with LUKS right now15:12
rbasakIt seems to work for non-system partition stuff just fine15:12
GrueMasterafaik, the easiest way to configure it is at install time.15:13
GrueMasterWhich means using the netinstall image.15:13
rbasakOnly note is that if using /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab to mount something on boot, then the prompt for the passphrase isn't very clean over serial (it echoes the passphrase in plaintext and kernel messages appear async over the top)15:13
GrueMasterAnd installing to USB.15:13
rbasakAh OK, I'll switch to the netinst image then15:14
GrueMasteroops.  That's not good.15:14
GrueMasterAlthough at least it is harder to hack.  Hard to get a man in the middle with a serial console.15:14
ogra_heh15:14
rbasak:-)15:14
rbasakWhat will be the recommended/supported boot method? Serial only? Or via USB keyboard + monitor or something?15:15
rbasak(or both?)15:15
ogra_we default to serial atm iirc15:15
GrueMasterFor server, serial console.  For desktop, KVM.15:16
rbasakAlso I think GrueMaster just answered this - I was going to ask whether we would support encrypted root via the installer or not, since the pre-installed image didn't give me an option. But I think the answer is to use netboot :)15:16
ogra_you would need to modify the cmdline before first boot to change that to monitor15:16
rbasakIt doesn't need a man in the middle at the moment, just a man over the shoulder :-P15:18
rbasakI've been using http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-preinstalled/current/ so far - where do I get the netinst image from?15:20
* rbasak has just hunted through ubuntu-server/15:20
ogra_well, a good over-the-sholder-man doesnt need to see the cleartext, he can guess from the keys you press ;)15:20
rbasakFor server I made a keyscript that required a USB key to be inserted (back in Hardy)15:21
rbasakNever got round to contributing it though :-/15:22
GrueMasterThe netinstall images are here:  http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/oneiric/main/installer-armel/current/images/omap4/netboot/15:22
GrueMasterHowever, if you use them I recommend a different approach than using the img file for now.15:23
ogra_DYO image :)15:23
GrueMasterbug 806751 will prevent you from finishing.15:23
ubot2`Launchpad bug 806751 in debian-installer "Boot partition on SD is too small on omap/omap4" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80675115:23
ogra_luckily NCommander is back today to work on that :)15:24
GrueMasterSo you need to download these files (in order) to an SD with a fat partition >30M:  MLO, u-boot.bin, uImage, uInitrd, boot.scr-serial (rename to boot.scr).15:25
GrueMasterYes, he should have it fixed this week.15:25
rbasakIn order?15:26
GrueMasterWell, MLO needs to be first.15:26
GrueMasterSpecifically.15:26
rbasakFirst on a fresh FAT partition so it ends up at the beginning?15:27
GrueMasterBug in the boot rom and how it looks at the fat table.15:27
GrueMasteryes.15:27
rbasakOK, understood15:27
* rbasak hopes that the vfat driver is deterministic in this regard :-P15:27
GrueMasterSo if you have an SD with server preinstalled already on it, just run "sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 <SD Part 1>"15:28
GrueMasterThen mount and copy the files, MLO being first.15:28
rbasakOK I've done that. Before I try booting this, I'd like to remove the second partition on SD now and install to a USB disk instead - will that work?15:32
* rbasak tries it15:35
GrueMasterDon't worry about the second partition.  It will be ignored.15:37
rbasakIt booted, installing now15:42
rbasakDoes anyone else's pandaboard whistle?15:45
rbasakActually it appears to be the PSU15:45
GrueMasterinteresting.15:45
rbasakI once had a cheap replacement laptop PSU that did that and it made the touchpad not work properly when using it15:46
* rbasak wonders if he has a dodgy PSU15:46
prpplaguerbasak: many cheap "wall-warts" are nothing more than a rectifier, cheap transformer, and a 780515:50
prpplaguerbasak: without proper impedence matching and filtering you can get a audible frequency Oscillation15:52
* GrueMaster is using an old AT power supply with something like 30A on the 5V rail. No problems so far.15:52
ogra_stop welding your pandas dude !15:52
GrueMasterHeh.  I've even thought of installing a solar panel outside to run my panda stack from.15:54
GrueMaster(living in Oregon has pretty much dashed that thought, though.15:54
ogra_well, if you accidentially shorten the right pins with a screwdriver, you might need a new screwdriver in such a setup :)15:55
hrwGrueMaster: I recently burnt old ATX psu15:55
GrueMasterATX power supplies are easy to fry.  They usually melt down in order to protect the $1 fuse they have built in.15:56
GrueMasterPlus a lot of them require a fair load on the 12v rail for the 5v rail to be stable.15:57
rbasakThe install worked, but on reboot nothing after "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel." - at a guess it's not configured for console output?16:07
gildeanalso AT-powers have a real power-switch16:07
rbasakGrueMaster: yeah the original boot.scr-serial had a console=ttyO2... line in it, the installer has replaced it and put nothing. I could fix this manually by replacing the file I suppose?16:09
GrueMasterThat is only usefull if you want to see the kernel boot messages.  It should still boot with a login prompt on serial.16:10
rbasakI see nothing after two minutes. I'd like to see the kernel boot message to see what's up.16:13
rbasakThe USB disk keeps powering down. It does that when on my laptop as well - evidently by default the power save is quite aggressive. I hope that's not affecting it.16:14
GrueMasterTry hitting enter on the serial console.  Sometimes I have to do that to get a login.16:14
rbasakNo joy16:15
rbasakIt's not really been hitting the USB disk enough to convince me that it's even booting16:15
GrueMasterIf that fails, you will need to manually edit the boot.scr on the SD from your desktop.  I'll walk you through it.16:15
GrueMaster(and bear with me.  I have an IRC lag from my overloaded server).16:15
GrueMasterIs your usb drive powered separately, or from the panda?16:16
rbasakPowered separately16:16
rbasakI've got the SD mounted on my desktop. boot.scr is binary, though I can edit the ascii part with vim16:16
GrueMasterHmmm.  Ok, lets edit the boot.scr.  First, do "dd bs=1 skip=72 if=boot.scr of=boot.script.16:17
rbasakOK, boot.script now looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/687735/16:17
GrueMasterThen you can edit boot.script to add "console=ttyO2,115200" and "earlyprintk=ttyO2,115200".16:18
GrueMasterDelete "quiet splash".16:18
rbasakOK done16:19
rbasakNow stick those 72 bytes at the front again I suppose?16:19
GrueMasterSave and exit.16:19
GrueMasterYes.  Use "mkimage -A arm -O linux -T script -C none -d boot.script boot.scr"16:20
GrueMasterIf you don't have mkimage installed, install u-boot-mkimage.16:20
GrueMasterThat's it.16:21
rbasakIt wanted u-boot-tools rather than u-boot-mkimage, but working now16:22
rbasakand...aha!16:22
rbasakI got the kernel output16:22
rbasakOf course it was asking for the passphrase :-)16:23
GrueMasterok16:23
GrueMasterheh16:23
rbasakNo plaintext echo problem this time. I need to see if that's a initrd vs. normal init prompt thing or a netinst-fixes-it thing16:25
GrueMasterCool.  Also, you might try removing early printk, and adding quiet & splash to see how much you need for it to still come up.  If all we need is a console= line, then we can add that.16:28
rbasakIt seems to die when my usb drive powers down. Looks like a separate issue I better tackle first, as I only get about a minute at a login otherwise16:31
rbasakI'll work out what the minimum required is for the passphrase prompt after that16:32
NCommanderogra_: indeed, I'm working on it (and did some work on it on Sunday). I already can feel the madness setting in16:58
rbasakGrueMaster: OK, it works with quiet spash and no early_printk - ie. only console= is required. For a full disk encrypted from the installer, apart from that it works including using *s for echoing the passphrase as it is entered. If I manually add a non-root partition to crypttab and fstab, then it works but echoes the plaintext bad and generally pollutes the console during passphrase input.17:48
ppisatican anyone check what's going on with actinidiaceae?17:48
ppisatibuildlog has not been updated for a while17:49
rbasakGrueMaster: so that's basic functionality. Any need for stress/benchmarking? I presume I need to write this up and automate the testing?17:49
GrueMasterrbasak: Thanks, good work.  For now, if you can just write up the steps to get it enabled, we will be working on automation between Beta 2 and UDS-P (possibly unitl P-A1).17:51
GrueMasterGoal for now is to do a once through and flush out any issues (like the console=).17:51
GrueMasterFile a bug against debian-installer that states that console= line needs to be added when doing a serial console install.17:52
rbasakOK, writeup at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/QA/Server I assume?17:53
GrueMasterI wonder if it needs to be there regardless.  Did yhe passphrase prompt come up on the monitor at all?  (If you didn't test it, no worries).17:54
rbasakI didn't test it. I don't have the the right lead to hook up a monitor17:54
GrueMasteryes, that is the correct link, thanks.17:54
rbasakI suspect it asks on whatever the console is17:55
GrueMasterI'll test it further after Beta 2 with a KVM enabled system to verify.  Might require a different cmdline to enable monitor out.17:56
GrueMasterrbasak: I marked the Test LUKS under server-o-arm-image-qa as done per your results.  Thanks again for the help.18:07
rbasakGrueMaster: No problem, pleased to get into something arm server related. I'm off now, I'll write up the results and file the bug against debian-installer in the morning.18:28
SysTomIs there an ubuntu-server build I can get hold of? (Pandaboard)20:17
GrueMasterSysTom: The official latest release is Oneiric Beta 1, found here:http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/beta-1/  Daily builds are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-preinstalled/.  You can also do a netinstall from http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/oneiric/main/installer-armel/current/images/omap4/netboot/, but be aware of bug 806751.  netinstall is for installing to either USB or iSCSI (both have been tested, iSCSI still has a21:04
GrueMasterpost-install bug).21:04
ubot2`Launchpad bug 806751 in debian-installer "Boot partition on SD is too small on omap/omap4" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80675121:04
GrueMasteriSCSI bug is 838809.21:05
GrueMastersigh.  Bug 83880921:06
ubot2`Launchpad bug 838809 in Ubuntu Oneiric "authenticated and unauthenicated iscsi clients fails to complete boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83880921:06
SysTomGrueMaster: thanks :)21:16
SysTomGrueMaster: How's it looking, I assume it's a lot light on resources?21:17
GrueMasterWell, imagine running a server instance on your cell phone.21:17
GrueMasterOther than the lack of SATA, it really isn't bad.21:18
GrueMasterWhat type of server are you planning?21:18
SysTomJust having a play at this time tbh21:20
GrueMasterIf you just want to see what it feels like, download the preinstalled image and boot it from SD.  If you are doing anything that involves more disk i/o, you need a usb drive (much faster).21:24
SysTomInteresting21:40
SysTomI have a spare USB drive here21:40
SysTomWhat's the method for preparing a USB stick for the netboot edition (http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/oneiric/main/installer-armel/current/images/omap4/netboot/)21:42
GrueMasterThe netboot edition still boots from SD, but the rootfs can be installed on USB.  You need an SD with a primary fat 32 (LBA) partition marked bootable.  The first file should be MLO from the netboot directory.21:43
GrueMasterThe next files should be: u-boot.bin, uImage, uInitrd, and boot.scr-serial (for serial console) or boot.scr-fb (for keyboard/monitor installation) renamed to boot.scr.21:44
GrueMasterUnfortunately, there is a bug in the installer (see above) that prevents you from using the boot.img files.21:45
SysTomAh ok, thanks for the info- certainly something to look into21:45
GrueMasterAlso, be aware that it pulls a lot of files across the internet.  Depending on your network connection, the ports.ubuntu.com mirror may be a big bottleneck, and there are no mirrors (unless you have your own).21:46
GrueMasterLet me know if you run into issues.  I have been doing netinstalls since Alpha 2.21:49
SysTomThanks GrueMaster21:49
NCommanderGrueMaster: ogra_ infinity need a sanity check before I upload http://paste.ubuntu.com/687934/22:01
GrueMasterFrom what I can tell, this looks sane.22:03
NCommanderGrueMaster: uploading then22:48
GrueMasterWill test first thing in the morning.22:48

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