[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[07:12] <ejat> morning dholbach  :)
[07:14] <dholbach> hey ejat
[07:15] <ejat> hey back …
[08:00] <kim0> Morning
[08:07] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:09] <dholbach> hey kim0, hey czajkowski
[08:09] <kim0> dholbach: czajkowski hey there
[08:09] <czajkowski> dates are out for FOSDEM 4&5th February
[08:09] <czajkowski> loads of notice not to have sprints around then
[10:06] <daker> mhall119, yep
[10:25] <kim0> daker: How's it going buddy
[10:25] <daker> kim0, Stress :/
[10:26] <kim0> daker: oh why :) hard time at dayjob?
[10:29] <daker> kim0, i am working since 02/09 non stop :/
[10:29] <kim0> ew
[10:30]  * kim0 hugs daker 
[10:30]  * dholbach hugs daker
[10:30] <kim0> This can't be good for anyone .. talk to your manager, man
[10:33] <daker> kim0, we are in commando mode because we are going to launch a new website this week
[10:34]  * kim0 hands a grenade 
[10:34] <kim0> I hope it's almost ready then :) All the best man
[10:37] <daker> kim0, have you seen the match yesterday ?
[10:38] <kim0> daker: the wedad one .. hmm not really :) I'm not a football guy, but I still hope we won hehe
[10:40] <daker> kim0, have you seen the "Tifou" ? http://youtu.be/gfmmP1WRMqw ?
[10:41] <kim0> daker: Nice :)
[10:43] <kim0> daker: oh 3-3 .. guess that makes both of us happy :)
[10:43] <daker> kim0, 1-1
[10:43] <kim0> doh .. well ok then
[10:44] <dholbach> dpm, do we have somebody who could test https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-nanum/+bug/835304? (Korean)
[10:44] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 835304 in ttf-nanum "contained fontconfig setting files force to make it default font" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[10:44] <dholbach> I'm happy to build a test-version of it
[10:48] <dpm> dholbach, I've assigned the bug to the ubuntu-cjk-testers team, but I'm not sure how active the Korean people there are. Perhaps we could talk to the Korean translation team leader: https://launchpad.net/~namhyung
[10:48] <dholbach> ah thanks for adding them to the bug
[11:26] <mhall119> bonjour
[11:27] <mhall119> daker: do you speak french?
[11:27] <daker> yes
[11:27] <daker> plutôt oui ツ
[11:27] <mhall119> cool, I may come to you for help then
[11:27] <daker> ok
[11:27] <mhall119> I'm taking it for the firt time this semester
[11:27] <daker> nice
[11:29] <Pendulum> mhall119: next time say 'parlez-vous francais?' or probably with daker and how well you know him 'parles-tu francais?' :P
[11:36] <AlanBell> or français for bonus points
[11:37] <AlanBell> I wonder if "how to type accents" is now part of french lessons in school
[11:39] <daker> Pendulum, right ツ
[11:56] <mhall119> AlanBell: not yet, the online courseware has a button for each of the different accented characteres
[11:56] <mhall119> is 'vous' the formal?  I thought it was plural
[11:57] <czajkowski> formal
[11:57] <mhall119> dang, am I the only one here who doesn't know french?
[11:57] <czajkowski> mhall119: we have to do english Irish maths and another language to enter into uni, most do French from the age of 12
[11:58] <mhall119> ah
[11:58] <mhall119> I did 2 years of Spanish
[11:58] <czajkowski> spanish is done in some places but rare
[11:58] <czajkowski> next popular is German and I did 18 months of that
[11:59] <mhall119> spanish is more useful in this hemisphere I guess
[12:04] <czajkowski> yup
[12:06] <daker> mhall119, both plural & formal, but in this case it's formal
[12:06] <mhall119> ok
[12:12] <Pendulum> mhall119: I took french from ages 12-20
[12:12] <Pendulum> (I was given a choice of French and Spanish at 12 and was part of the minority who chose French)
[12:13] <Pici> heh.
[12:15] <AlanBell> I did french age 12-16 like most kids in England
[12:15] <AlanBell> not posh enough to do Latin
[12:15] <Pendulum> I've forgotten most of the French I learned, however, I still do okay reading French (writing and speaking less well)
[12:16] <Pici> (smiling because we had a similar thing in my school, except the choice was Spanish, French, or Latin, (sorted by popularity) and I chose Latin)
[12:16] <Pendulum> I could have done Latin in high school, but I wanted to stick with French and coldn't find room to add Latin in
[12:19] <AlanBell> apart from ordering food I can't say much more than A/S/L type questions :)
[12:20] <mhall119> Michelle did Latin
[12:21] <Pici> I don't remember any of the Latin that I learned.  It has helped me with reading other languages though.
[12:22] <Pendulum> 0---------------------------------------------------------------------455555555556u]u5
[12:22] <Pici> hi kitten
[12:23] <Pendulum> yeah
[12:26] <Pendulum> I guess that was her opinion of languages
[12:32] <mhall119> ha
[14:13] <IdleOne> can someone point me to the USerDays archives?
[14:13] <IdleOne> User*
[14:14] <IdleOne> or somewhere to search past classes that were given
[14:20] <nigelb> IdleOne: yeah
[14:21] <jcastro> james_w: ping
[14:21] <james_w> hi
[14:22] <jcastro> should I change "Register" to "Register for UDS" and "Register for Linaro Connect Q4.11"?
[14:22] <IdleOne> nigelb: specifically a class or classes about bug fixing, howto/wheere to submit fixes and all that.
[14:22] <IdleOne> where*
[14:24] <james_w> jcastro, where would that change be?
[14:25] <nigelb> IdleOne: Hrm, I don't think so.
[14:25] <jcastro> kim0: for some reason negronjl's last post isn't syndicated, I think it's his feed
[14:25] <jcastro> james_w: on the top of uds.ubuntu.com
[14:25] <kim0> jcastro: I emailed him my morning asking for why is that
[14:25] <jcastro> ah ok
[14:25] <kim0> jcastro: his rss doesn't have it indeed
[14:25] <jcastro> I saw his post this weekend and tried to figure it out
[14:25] <jcastro> ok whew
[14:25] <nigelb> IdleOne: Go down from wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/maverick, keep changing the release name
[14:25] <nigelb> I think we started in lucid.
[14:25] <jcastro> I thought it was good weekend content, heh
[14:26] <kim0> yeah sure was :)
[14:26] <nigelb> jcastro / kim0: what are you guys talking about?
[14:26] <IdleOne> nigelb: thanks.
[14:26] <jcastro> nigelb: the syndication on cloud.u.c
[14:26] <jcastro> but it's juan's feed that is busted, not wordpress
[14:27] <nigelb> jcastro: No, I was asking about the actual article
[14:29] <jcastro> http://blog.xtremeghost.com/2011/08/membase-deployment-and-scaling-with.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+xtremeghost%2FcNYf+%28As+seen+through+my+eyes%29&utm_content=FeedBurner
[14:29] <jcastro> bah, sorry for the link
[14:29] <nigelb> jcastro: thanks :)
[14:49] <jcastro> james_w: do you have a dedicated registration page I could link to?
[14:50] <james_w> jcastro, we don't, I think that's what Stephen is asking about
[14:51] <jcastro> ah ok
[14:51] <dholbach> hey jono
[14:51] <jcastro> ping me when you have one and I'll make a link
[14:52] <jono> hey dholbach
[14:52] <jono> kim0, good to chat in 8?
[14:52] <jcastro> james_w: It doesn't make sense to me to have another launchpad sprint page
[14:52] <jcastro> is there a way to link to the UDS page but have a vanity URL?
[14:53] <james_w> jcastro, why doesn't it?
[14:53] <james_w> (not saying it does, just wondering why)
[14:56] <kim0> jono: yeah
[14:57] <jcastro> like "Click here to register for the AMAZING Linaro blah blah 4.11!!!!" but we really send them to the UDS launchpad page
[14:57] <jcastro> which is kind of what we do now
[14:58] <james_w> ah, yeah
[14:58] <james_w> he doesn't care that much about uds.ubuntu.com I expect, because we won't be sending people there
[14:58] <jcastro> can someome who doesn't work at Canonical click on "download the sponsorship prospectus" and lmk if you get a PDF? http://uds.ubuntu.com/uds-sponsors/
[14:59] <james_w> his big issue is that after registration you end up on https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-p
[14:59] <popey> jcastro: i get a google doc
[14:59] <jcastro> perfecto
[14:59] <popey> not a downloaded pdf
[14:59] <popey> well, its a pdf, but hosted on google docs
[14:59] <james_w> which mentions UDS 20 times, links to uds.ubuntu.com as the meeting homepage etc.
[14:59] <jcastro> james_w: yeah there's not really any way for me to add more branding on those sprint pages in lp
[15:00] <james_w> jcastro, yeah, that's understood
[15:00] <james_w> so I think Stephen is asking about having an alternative sprint registered in Launchpad
[15:00] <jono> kim0, lets do skype
[15:00] <james_w> which has Linaro branding, and that Linaro can point people to
[15:00] <kim0> okie
[15:00] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-p
[15:00] <jcastro> james_w: refresh
[15:01] <james_w> but still works for registering with summit etc.
[15:01] <jcastro> I at least added that
[15:01] <james_w> thanks
[15:01] <jcastro> ok do we know if it's possible to have 2 registered sprints, one summit?
[15:02] <james_w> I don't
[15:02] <james_w> I doubt it's already implemented
[15:02] <jcastro> I agree
[15:02] <kim0> jono: seems like I need to kill skype
[15:03] <jcastro> you'll have 2 different naming conventions for meetings
[15:03] <jcastro> I bet that will break spectacularly
[15:03] <jono> kim0, ok
[15:03] <jono> call me back
[15:03] <james_w> jcastro, we should be able to apply one naming convention across both
[15:03] <kim0> jono: call again please
[15:04] <james_w> as it's just <track>-<whatever> and we have to have unique tracks if it is one summit
[15:04] <jcastro> ah
[15:29] <jono> dpm, all set?
[15:29] <dpm> jono, yep!
[15:29] <jono> dpm, lets do skype
[15:30] <dpm> jono, ok, all set then
[15:30] <jono> dpm, ringing
[15:46] <jcastro> kim0: ah, looks like the RSS got sorted!
[15:46] <jcastro> woo
[16:13] <mhall119> jono: ping
[16:13] <mhall119> or jcastro
[16:14] <jcastro> hi
[16:14] <jono> hey mhall119
[16:14] <mhall119> can either of you request that RT #17895 be worked on before Oct. 1
[16:14] <mhall119> it's a request to monitor cranberry's processes to figure out why Summit and LD keep getting out of memory errors
[16:15] <nigelb> *request for specific monitoring to try and guess
[16:15] <mhall119> I don't want to wait until a month before UDS starts to begin figuring out why Summit is having memory errors
[16:15] <nigelb> Hrm, i just realized I don't actually know UDS dates.
[16:16] <nigelb> 31 Oct. Woah.
[16:16] <nigelb> Where did this cycle disappear to.
[16:16] <mhall119> I know, right?
[16:16] <mhall119> nigelb: hmmm, didn't you tell me they had the rt waiting until Oct 1?
[16:17] <mhall119> I don't see that on the RT itself
[16:17] <nigelb> mhall119: The RT's escalation date is Oct 1.
[16:17] <nigelb> That still doesn't mean it will get done by then.
[16:17] <nigelb> Just means if its not done by Oct 1, it will jump ahead of the queue and wwe have a better chance of it getting done sooner.
[16:18] <mhall119> where are you seeing that?
[16:18] <nigelb> Fairly sure I saw that in a mail.
[16:19] <mhall119> at any rate, if we can get that escalated so we know summit will be stable during UDS, that would be fantastic
[16:20] <nigelb> mhall119: Sorry, that was from IRC.
[16:20] <mhall119> ok
[16:20] <nigelb> I can paste that line for you if you wwant.
[16:20] <mhall119> I believe you
[16:20] <nigelb> :)
[16:20] <nigelb> 21:28 < tiaz> nigelb: sure, it's a good start. I have thrown it into the queue. on 2011-10-01 it will jump to the front of the queue in case it hasn't been worked on by then.
[16:26] <jcastro> mhall119: I don't have escalation privs
[16:34] <dholbach> jono, ready? :)
[16:42] <jono> dholbach, sorry call ran over
[16:42] <jono> all set
[16:43] <dholbach> alrightie
[16:43] <jono> skype?
[16:43] <dholbach> however you like it
[16:43] <dholbach> I'm logged in
[17:04] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[17:04] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[17:25] <jussi> bah, sometimes I really miss the configurability of KDE...
[17:25] <jussi> there is here options to turn the screen off after so many different times, but not a "never turn off" option.
[17:32] <dpm> jussi, if you've got a minute, would you fancy giving me a hand making #ubuntu-app-devel non-invite-only? I basically don't know where to start
[17:33] <jussi> dpm: Im just about to watch a movie, probably easiest to drop in #ubuntu-irc-council and ask there, otherwise, in about 100 mins ;)
[17:34] <jussi> Im off now, laters.
[17:34] <jussi> (any of the ircc can help with that iirc )
[17:35]  * tsimpson is here
[17:36] <dpm> jussi, I'll try that, thanks!
[17:36] <tsimpson> dpm: does the channel have a use again?
[17:36] <ejat> oppps
[17:38] <dpm> tsimpson, what do you mean? It is linked to in http://developer.ubuntu.com/support/ and we want to keep that page and channel when we launch the new developer site. You mean it was set to invite-only because there was no activity?
[17:38] <tsimpson> yeah, it died a painful death
[17:38] <jcastro> jono: fyi I need to be g+ or normal phone today, my skype situation is pretty messed up atm
[17:39] <jono> jcastro, np
[17:39] <dpm> tsimpson, can we reopen it again in preparation of the developer.ubuntu.com launch and try again how it works out?
[17:40] <tsimpson> give me a minute and I'll re-open it
[17:43] <tsimpson> dpm: should be open now
[17:47] <dpm> thanks a lot tsimpson
[17:53] <scott-work> jcastro: this will be the first UDS i've even attended, when will the scheduled meetings be posted so i can start signing up?
[17:56] <jcastro> scott-work: yeah there will be instructions posted to ubuntu-devel when we get closer
[17:56] <jcastro> and they show up on the schedule, etc.
[17:56] <jcastro> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/
[17:56] <jcastro> speaking of
[17:56] <jcastro> mhall119: I should probably wait until the memory thing is sorted before I schedule?
[17:57] <mhall119> jcastro: I have no idea when that'll be sorted
[17:57] <mhall119> jcastro: I'm prepping a big release for summit that'll give you private rooms and other improvements though
[17:57] <mhall119> so you might want to wait for that
[17:58] <jcastro> ok
[17:58] <jcastro> though I don't do private meetings
[17:58] <mhall119> jcastro: you can check out the latest trunk at http://ec2-50-16-76-22.compute-1.amazonaws.com/uds-p/
[17:58] <jcastro> is someone going to show marianachelle how to use it?
[17:58] <mhall119> jcastro: marianachelle? lol
[17:59] <mhall119> yeah, one of us can walk her through the difference
[17:59] <jcastro> mhall119: do you have a memory problem with it in ec2?
[17:59] <scott-work> jcastro: cool, thank you :)
[18:00] <jcastro> scott-work: the tl;dr is to subscribe to blueprints that interest you, and then you'll be subscribed to things as they get put on the schedule
[18:00] <jcastro> and you'll have a personalized schedule, etc.
[18:00] <jcastro> but mostly you'll walk to a big monitor at the beginning of each day and decide where you want to go
[18:00] <ejat> hope to see u guys too .. since im in standby list ...
[18:00] <czajkowski> i have a non working oneiric :/
[18:00] <mhall119> jcastro: not that I've noticed, no
[18:01] <ejat> czajkowski: the same prob like u ask help from pitti ?
[18:01] <czajkowski> https://twitter.com/#!/czajkowski/status/113310685118738432
[18:01] <jono> jcastro, invited you to the hangout
[18:01] <scott-work> jcastro: currently i do not see many blueprints, do i need to RTFM more or is this correct currently?
[18:01] <czajkowski> ejat: no gotten a lot worse
[18:01] <mhall119> jcastro: but my ec2 has different data, much less traffic, and no crons
[18:01] <czajkowski> cant even get to my desktop
[18:01] <czajkowski> i get to login
[18:01] <ejat> czajkowski: i just manually recovered after upgrade ...
[18:01] <ejat> from the bug 811441
[18:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 811441 in dbus "Unable to connect to the system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused (oneiric)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/811441
[18:01] <czajkowski> so what go to a terminal and do more updates
[18:02]  * ejat can say .. oneiric is aw3s0m3 :) 
[18:02] <czajkowski> yeah i have other words
[18:02]  * AlanBell updates oneiric  . . .
[18:03] <mhall119> jcastro: http://imageshack.us/f/835/trackcolors.png/
[18:03] <ejat> czajkowski: i just half an hour using oneiric ... hehe
[18:04] <czajkowski> i cant do any updates as it fails to connect to everything
[18:05] <ejat> ouch ..
[18:07] <akgraner> nigelb, you around?
[18:08] <AlanBell> 220MB of downloads and I too could have the same czajkowski oneiric experience
[18:09] <AlanBell> must work out what to do with the appmenu lens
[18:14] <ejat> ouch .. AlanBell .. u get what czajkowski experience ?
[18:14]  * ejat upgrading now .. will i ? 
[18:15] <AlanBell> not yet, installing the upgrades now
[18:15] <ejat> i just 15.3MB of updates
[18:15] <czajkowski> never restarting again
[18:15] <mhall119> lol
[18:17] <popey> czajkowski: reboot to previous kernel perhaps?
[18:17]  * popey reboots to oneiric to update it
[18:17] <popey> o/
[18:17] <czajkowski> popey: how can i change the kernel on booting up ?
[18:21] <popey> hold shift after you hit the power button
[18:22] <akgraner> popey, shouldn't it be left shift
[18:26] <popey> doesnt matte
[18:26] <daker> mhall119, http://www.eyecon.ro/colorpicker/ would be usefull t
[18:27] <czajkowski> it wont do it
[18:27] <czajkowski> bugger
[18:27] <popey> it will
[18:27] <daker> mhall119, useful too*
[18:27] <popey> you either have to be quick
[18:27] <popey> or stab repeatedly after bios
[18:27] <czajkowski> oh thank you god
[18:27] <AlanBell> no, you can just hold down shift
[18:27] <czajkowski> i can boot into unity 2d
[18:28] <AlanBell> that is why it is shift
[18:28] <czajkowski> hah i beat you, dumb laptop
[18:28] <ejat> czajkowski:  :)
[18:28] <czajkowski> AlanBell: nope comes from drop down choice on login
[18:28] <czajkowski> that and i had the bf laughing offering his mac
[18:28] <czajkowski> i refuse to be beaten
[18:29] <ejat> 0/
[18:37] <popey> all updated
[18:38] <popey> now, do I reboot :D
[18:38] <popey> yes!
[18:39] <AlanBell> yeah, holding shift is the thingie to get you to the grub prompt for different kernels, shift is a modifier key so the bios doesn't complain about a key being held down, so you can hold shift right from power on
[18:40] <jcastro> jono: I found you a squealer song
[18:40] <jcastro> jono: pls queue up Becoming, on Far Beyond Driven.
[18:40] <jcastro> Thanks.
[18:41] <jono> jcastro, love that tune!
[18:41] <AlanBell> and yeah, unity2d seems way more stable than the 3d version, I was doing lens stuff and 3d was a mess
[18:41] <jcastro> AlanBell: yeah me too
[18:42] <jono> jcastro, the song I was thinking of was Suicide Note Pt. II
[18:42] <popey> I still want the drop shadow on the top panel to die in a fire
[18:42] <jono> from TGSTK
[18:42] <popey> its so badly implemented
[18:42] <popey> however, all updated and working fine \o/
[18:42] <jcastro> ah
[18:42] <jcastro> jono: god this song is so crap though
[18:43] <jcastro> 10's is my fave on this one
[18:43]  * jcastro queues up a few hours of banshee madness
[18:46] <nigelb> Oh god. I juts rickrolled into the cake song. *faceplam*
[18:46] <nigelb> *facepalm*
[18:47] <jono> jcastro, check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_VTfrF6TWU
[18:48] <jcastro> too late, I'm in my qeue!
[18:48] <jcastro> I will check it after my neck starts to hurt tho
[18:50] <jono> haha
[18:50] <jono> ok, grabbing lunch, back soon
[19:39] <jcastro> jono: FOUND IT.
[19:39] <jcastro> September 17th, 2007 is my date.
[19:41] <jono> jcastro, cool
[19:41] <jono> my birthday
[19:41] <jono> I should have rememberd that
[19:41] <jono> :-)
[19:41] <jcastro> lol right, of course
[19:41] <jcastro> hah, we suck
[19:41] <jono> we do indeed
[19:41] <jono> :-)
[19:41] <jcastro> I think we've had this exact conversation .... 4 times
[19:42] <nigelb> since 2007?
[19:42] <nigelb> jcastro: joining date?
[19:44] <AlanBell> czajkowski: mine booted and I could log in to the desktop
[19:44] <AlanBell>  boots to a zeitgeis-daemon crash, but hey
[19:44] <jcastro> nigelb: yeah
[19:45] <jcastro> kees' post today reminded me that I'm close
[19:45] <nigelb> jcastro: 4 YEARS \o/
[19:45]  * jcastro is sad to see kees go, he's totally awesome
[19:45] <nigelb> WHA?
[19:45]  * nigelb goes to planet
[19:45] <nigelb> Oh, wow. Google.
[19:48] <AlanBell> lenses have been unbroken in a few ways but the app lens is still not very good at finding apps
[19:48] <AlanBell> and an off-by-one bug in the more results twisty
[19:49] <jcastro> hah weird, Larry Augustin added me in g+
[19:49] <jcastro> there's a name blast from the past
[20:23] <popey> should something actually happen in gwibber when you click someone's nicek?
[20:23] <popey> *nick
[20:23] <popey> like someone mentioned by someone you follow
[20:24] <popey> \o/ FOSDEM
[20:51] <jono> anyone on oneiric here?
[20:52] <jono> jcastro, http://img.ly/images/1967498/full
[21:03] <mhall119> oh sweet!
[21:04]  * mhall119 really needs to upgrade now
[21:06] <jcastro> jono: nice!
[21:07] <jono> jcastro, in oneiric, if you type 'scan' into the home place do you get any results?
[21:07] <jcastro> yes
[21:07] <nigelb> jono: <3
[21:07] <jcastro> I get simple scan
[21:08] <jcastro> my blur seems to have gotten slower recently too
[21:08] <jono> odd, I don't get anything
[21:08] <jono> jcastro, when did you last upgrade/
[21:08] <jono> jcastro, when did you last upgrade?
[21:08] <jcastro> this morning
[21:08] <jono> jcastro, hmmm, same here
[21:08] <jono> odd
[21:10]  * akgraner thinks I need to upgrade my oneiric machine now...
[21:15] <akgraner> update even grrrrr
[21:18] <AlanBell> hmm, if you have the dash open and screensaver cuts in and locks the screen the login box shouldn't be drawn under the blurry dash should it . . .
[21:19]  * AlanBell waits to reproduce after rebooting
[21:24]  * AlanBell reproduces
[22:25] <popey> AlanBell: got a bug number for that?
[22:41] <Daviey> AlanBell: Got a patch? :)
[23:31] <popey> i cant even find the dialog for screensaver on my 11.10
[23:31] <popey> press super then type screensaver I get nothing