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StevenKpitti: O hai! I spent some time on the weekend trying to get ekiga to build with the new opal and pt, and it's hopeless. :-(04:07
pittiGood morning04:10
* micahg thought pitti uploaded a new version of htat04:10
pittiStevenK: but I already uploaded the new ekiga which works fine04:10
pittiStevenK: I mentioned that on the bug which opal and ptlib referenced04:10
pittiStevenK: sorry about the double-work04:10
pittibdmurray: it's meant to mark the bug as a dupe of the real master bug04:12
* mneptok waves to pitti04:16
* pitti throws some candies towards mneptok04:17
pittimneptok: how are you?04:17
mneptokpitti: great, thanks!04:17
* mneptok is on a month-long vacation, and is quite relaxed04:17
pittimneptok: sounds nice! you are spending it at home, or in the internets? isn't that a good time for travelling etc.?04:18
pittiuh, half of the armel builders offline?04:19
micahgpitti: system upgrades, I was told they should be back soon04:20
mneptokpitti: i spend most days on the motorcycle riding around New Mexico04:20
pittiah, cheers04:20
ScottKslangasek: honeyd FTBFS when rebuild (needed for NBS) looks somewhat multi-arch like to me.  The error is "configure: error: Couldn't figure out how to access libc"05:15
lifelessScottK: win!05:16
ScottKIt is because it's clearly too hard for me, so somebody else's problem ...05:16
micahgdoko_: pitti: hopefully by EOD you can remove the old libav binaries (uploaded and building)05:35
pittimicahg: yay05:35
didrocksgood morning05:43
ScottKdidrocks: I'm about to go sleep, since it's very late here, but I'd appeciate it if you could look into the qt4-x11 build failures today.05:50
didrocksScottK: I'll try having a look, not sure I got time (already busy schedule), but will try (saw some build failure on arm, right?)05:55
tkamppeterpitti, hi06:21
pittitkamppeter: hey, how are you? enjoyed your holidays?06:25
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dokodidrocks, ScottK see the ftbfs report06:52
didrocksdoko: do you have a bug # handy? (did you subscribe me to it? I didn't see it)06:52
didrocksI guess it's bug #84722406:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 847224 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "qt4-x11 ftbfs on armel (timeout building the docs)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84722406:53
dokodidrocks, see http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/06:53
didrocksdoko: yeah, I'll see that with ScottK about what to do to reduce the build time as it's the timeout killing the build06:55
didrockssame on powerpc it seems06:55
micahgwow, it used to be 10 hrs on armel, I guess it was raised06:56
didrocksmicahg: it's a timeout of no activity while building the documentation06:56
micahgdidrocks: I understand, the timeout used to be 10 hrs, I guess it's now 13.306:57
doko800min ...06:57
didrocksdoko: anyway, the -doc packages are arch:all as you infered, let me see how to disable the build for other archs07:00
didrockshum, nice, seems Qt doesn't have an option to disable the build of documentation07:07
didrocksseems it will need a painful patch arch-dep07:08
dholbachgood morning07:09
pooliehi all07:10
pooliecould someone from the sru team (or archive admin?) promote the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/736216 in natty?07:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 736216 in curl (Ubuntu Maverick) "bzr crashed with error in _curl_perform(): (28, 'SSL connection timeout at 298225') connecting to Launchpad" [Undecided,In progress]07:10
didrockshey dholbach, poolie07:10
pooliehi there07:11
poolie... or, let me know what needs to be done07:11
dholbachhey didrocks, hi poolie07:14
pooliehi there07:15
dokocjwatson, so building with -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED seems to be as bad as -Werror ...07:15
pooliedidrocks, could you suggest what i should do to get that sru to move?07:18
dokomicahg, did the qt4 security upload fail with this doc timeout too?07:19
didrockspoolie: it seems you subscribe the ubuntu-sru team to it, isn't it? but the Natty curl status is fix committed, is there any reason?07:20
didrocks"Accepted curl into natty-proposed" oh, it's already in -proposed07:20
pooliei think the state is fixed in -proposed, not yet fixed in -updates07:20
poolieit's in proposed07:21
poolieit apparently works07:21
poolieit needs to go into -updates07:21
didrocksyeah, and there is verification-done-natty (but still verification-needed, I guess for other?) not sure if that puzzles pitti's script07:22
poolieperhaps that's it07:22
didrockslet's wait for him to have some time to have a look :)07:22
pittiv-done-release is an invention of the kernel team, this tag isn't recognized by the SRU report page07:23
pittiit should just be v-done07:23
pittianyway, can release now07:23
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pooliethanks pitti07:29
dholbach@pilot in07:49
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pooliei'm surprised that ntfs mounts with umask=0 by default, although mount(8) says it's umask=07707:53
poolieis that an intentional ubuntu change?07:53
tkamppeterpitti, it is about bug 807261, the problem of cups-pk-helper breaking s-c-p.07:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 807261 in cups-pk-helper (Ubuntu Oneiric) "cups-pk-helper makes system-config-printer asking for a password when adding a new printer" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80726107:55
tkamppeterpitti, I have added a longer comment to it.07:55
jamespagemorning all07:56
jamespagedoko - any chance you could sponsor those two branches you reviewed for me on Friday?07:56
dokojamespage, sure08:19
jamespagedoko: thanks08:19
cjwatsonmicahg: some of libav will still have to wait for insighttoolkit to finish its eight-day or whatever it is armel build so that itksnap and vmtk can be fixed - but yes, gnash was the other blocker, so thanks!08:29
cjwatsondoko: yeah, it should be a maintainer-only thing rather than a release tarball thing08:30
tkamppeterpitti, ping09:02
pittitkamppeter: pong09:05
tkamppeterpitti, have you seen my message above?09:12
pittitkamppeter: yes; do you need me to do anythign with this bug?09:12
tkamppeterpitti, I want to know what you think is the best solution without loosing any functionality.09:13
tkamppeterpitti, There are the following possibilities:09:14
pittiwhy do we need cups-pk-helper?09:14
pittifor s-c-p?09:14
pittiwe haven't before09:14
pittiI thought it's only needed for the upstream control-center printer capplet09:14
pitti(which we don't use in ubuntu/unity, just with gnome shell09:14
tkamppeterpitti, s-c-p does not need cups-pk-helper, so if there is nothing else needing it, one could simply make sure that it does not get pulled into the default installation.09:15
pittitkamppeter: it doesn't09:15
pittitkamppeter: if you install gnome-shell, it will be pulled in09:15
tkamppeterpitti, what pulls it in currently is gnome-shell and gnome-shell I have installed, probably because my Oneiric is grown out of daily updates from Natty.09:16
pittidoes it hurt to have it installed?09:16
tkamppeterpitti, we must assure that updaters from Natty and older will not get cups-pk-helper pulled in.09:16
pittithe upstream capplet is hidden in the control center under UNity09:17
pittiso nothing ought to invoke it?09:17
pittitkamppeter: why?09:17
pittitkamppeter: I thought s-c-p wouldn't use cups-pk-helper; you mean it does?09:17
tkamppeterpitti, yes, if cups-pk-helper is installed, s-c-p asks for an admin password, even if the user is in the lpadmin group.09:17
pittiit oughtn't09:18
pittitkamppeter: we can't assure that cups-pk-helper isn't installed, as people might have gnome-shell installed09:18
cjwatsonhyperair: could you please confirm my last comment in bug 756161?09:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 756161 in geanydoc (Ubuntu Oneiric) "geanydoc version 0.4-0ubuntu3 failed to build on i386" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75616109:19
pittitkamppeter: can we disable cups-pk-helper support in s-c-p easily? does it have a configure option?09:19
tkamppeterpitti, I can also patch away the cups-pk-helper support in s-c-p by adding only two lines.09:19
tkamppeterpitti, it is not a configure option, it is setting a variable to False at two points.09:19
hyperaircjwatson: ah, that package's been obsoleted by geany-plugins afaik09:20
hyperaircjwatson: rm please09:20
cjwatsonhyperair: right, that was what I said in my comment :)09:20
cjwatsonhyperair: shouldn't geany-plugins-doc Breaks/Replaces geanydoc as well though?09:20
hyperairdid you?09:20
cjwatsonhyperair: oh, it might not quite have saved yet when I asked you, reload09:21
pittitkamppeter: do you think that would be okay? it seems like the best solution to me09:21
tkamppeterpitti, best solution would be to fix cups-pk-helper to support the user-in-lpadmin-group case, but probably this is more work, and not easy to project into the architecture of PolicyKit.09:21
pittitkamppeter: right09:22
pittitkamppeter: I think if/when we switch to cups-pk-helper and the upstream applet, we'll deprecate lpadmin in the desktop09:22
hyperaircjwatson: right, i guess it should.09:22
pittiit's one of the few "hardware access" groups that we still have, and it's a thorn in the eye09:22
cjwatsonhyperair: want a separate bug?09:22
hyperaircjwatson: actually no. geanydoc is the source package name.09:23
hyperaircjwatson: geany-plugin-doc is the binary package name09:23
hyperairPackage: geanydoc09:23
hyperairBinary: geany-plugin-doc09:23
hyperairVersion: 0.4-0ubuntu309:23
pittitkamppeter: we can then even configure polkit to allow access to local printers from a local desktop session (as these users have physical access anyway)09:23
cjwatsonso it's just an orphaned source package then, fine09:23
* cjwatson really must produce a report of those09:23
hyperairwell more like it should have been removed09:23
hyperairi thought i got rid of all those already09:23
cjwatsonhyperair: oh well, this one's gone now, thanks09:25
hyperaircjwatson: geanyprj also needs to be removed.09:26
hyperairand that should be it.09:26
cjwatsonhyperair: that was done a while back, bug 82506909:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 825069 in geanyprj (Ubuntu) "please remove geanyprj from the oneiric archives" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82506909:27
hyperairah okay.09:27
hyperairthen that should be it :-)09:27
tkamppeterpitti, another solution would s-c-p trying cups authentication not allowing a password prompt and only if the authentication fails try cups-pk-helper and as last mean try cups authentication with password. But this would be a bigger change, perhaps not doable for Oneiric.09:27
pittitkamppeter: yeah, that even sounds upstreamable then09:28
tkamppeterpitti, this would be a good idea, switch to PolicyKit instead of lpadmin-group-based access in s-c-p (keep lpadmin group only for the command line utils of CUPS) and allowing general access to locally defined print queues for local desktop users.09:30
tkamppeters/general access/general passwordless access/09:31
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DavieyDoes syncpackage, when sponsoring a sync with a bug number default to giving attribution to the bug reporter?09:39
tumbleweednot yet09:39
Davieytumbleweed: thanks.09:39
tumbleweedDaviey: Bug 82760809:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 827608 in Launchpad itself "Sync requester isn't credited with upload" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82760809:40
tumbleweedactually that's not even the sponsorship one, that's just a pre-requisite09:41
Laneythat was about self syncs09:41
Laneysponsored syncs are in another one09:41
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Laneyah, which is linked frmo there: bug 82755509:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 827555 in Launchpad itself "native syncs have no way to indicate sponsorship" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82755509:42
Davieytumbleweed: ah! making good progress :)09:42
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tumbleweedDaviey: unfortunatly the sponsorship one is of low importance, so it may take a while...09:42
Laneywe can probably get people interested09:43
Laneythey seem good like that on this feature09:44
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DavieyWell i just did a sync which should have been sponsored, and yes - i now feel like an ass.09:46
DavieyI don't think the chap will mind, thankfully.09:46
Laneydid the tool make you think it was going to be credited correctly?09:47
tumbleweedit looks like we're going to have to sneak one more upload in, we can mention that09:47
DavieyLaney: well.. i hoped :).. Considering it said i /could/ overwrite it if i appended --no-lp09:48
Davieyso i thought! Ah!, it must be smart enough :)09:48
DavieyAlthough, i did suspect it might not be.. having ack-sync pulled out from under me was kinda frustrating.09:48
tumbleweedI don't think it's worth using --no-lp just for sponsorship attribution (I asked sponsorees if they minded not being attributed, and they didn't care)09:50
Laneythere appear to not be any open sync requests to test how sponsor-patch works09:56
DavieySo syncpackage is still expected to close the bug, and not launchpad?09:57
DavieyNot ideal when the sync isn't automagic.09:57
Davieyas in, NEW.09:57
DavieyLaney: I have one you can hijack.09:57
Laneythat's no worse than how it was before, but it might have been an opportunity to only close bugs on publication, indeed09:58
tumbleweedbut there's another feature request bug open for this09:59
tumbleweed(although I doubt that'll help with the NEW case)10:00
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* didrocks wonders why he gets some FTBFS on other deps not yet published on the same arch (explicitely set in debian/control)10:15
didrockswas the same with unity-2d last Friday10:16
tkamppeterpitti, for me it looks like that the quickest solution to solve the s-c-p/cups-pk-helper incompatibility problem in Oneiric is to apply the 2-line patch to make s-c-p not using cups-pk-helper.10:19
tkamppeterpitti, letting s-c-p try password-less CUPS auth before PK auth and then passworded CUPS auth is a good idea to suggest upstream, too complicated to rush into Oneiric.10:20
tkamppeterpitti, I am trying now another possible solution: Using, as you suggested, cups-pk-helper but opening up the right to manipulate local queues for all local desktop users without password. password is only needed for server settings and manipulating remote printers.10:25
tkamppeterpitti, this I am doing by replacing most "auth_admin_keep" by "yes" in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.opensuse.cupspkhelper.mechanism.policy.10:26
tkamppeterpitti, WDYT? Which method should we use in Oneiric?10:27
tkamppeterpitti, if we opt for using the cups-pk-helper-based solution, I can patch s-c-p to check for the SSH_CLIENT env variable to not use PK is s-c-p is run through SSH, a ~6 lines patch.10:38
debfxmvo: would it be a problem for app-install-data if kubuntu stopped stripping translations from desktop files?10:51
bdrungLaney, Daviey, tumbleweed: sponsor-patch just calls syncpackage (without --no-lp) and due to the mentioned bug it does not yet support crediting the requester.10:54
Laneybdrung: shouldn't it do the AA way until that is fixed?10:56
bdrungLaney: good idea. i hoped that this will be fixed before oneiric is released10:57
Laneyno idea about that10:57
tumbleweedit won't be able to credit the requestor without an API change on teh launchpad function, so that seems to be a safe thing to do10:59
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pittitkamppeter: re (sorry, was at lunch)11:08
pittitkamppeter: no, please don't replace with "yes", we should only do that for users who are in the "admin" group already11:09
pittitkamppeter: I think for oneiric we should just do the 2-line patch you suggested11:09
bdrungtumbleweed: btw, the changes are ready for oneiric. currently sponsor-patch doesn't support sync request at all. now it supports it (except the crediting)11:18
tkamppeterpitti, OK, will do so.11:22
pittitkamppeter: thanks11:23
diwicpitti, is there a way to force a proper retrace of bug 838453 ? Apport's conclusion is wrong.11:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 838453 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio crashed with SIGABRT in raise()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83845311:23
tkamppeterpitti, admin-group-only authentication (but asking for password) is the standard scenarion if one does not change the cups-pk-helper configuration. Would be great if cups-pk-helper would give the possibility to allow access for users in the admin group (in the lpadmin group) without asking for their password if they are logged in on the desktop already.11:25
pittitkamppeter: yes, that's possible, just not in the .policy file11:25
pittitkamppeter: but as we don't use cups-pk-helper, I wouldn't change it in oneiric now11:26
tkamppeterpitti, so this would be a feature request for cups-pk-helper in Powerful Pitti, our next LTS.11:26
pittitkamppeter: heh11:26
pittitkamppeter: actually it would go into policykit-desktop-privileges, but either way, it's a simple change; I can do it easily11:27
tkamppeterpitti, great. Will you add this to your TODO list or should I report a bug?11:28
pittitkamppeter: bug report will do fine11:28
pittiwe can target it to P11:29
tkamppeterpitti, OK.11:29
Laneycjwatson: pitti: I'm confused about appointing the new DMB member. Does the TB need to confirm it?11:29
pittiLaney: erm, shouldn't DMB members be voted on?11:30
Laneyit has been?11:30
pittiI thought the current DMB was the result of a poll11:30
Laneydid you miss the election?11:30
mvodebfx: I don't think so, should be fine11:30
pittiyeah, that's what confused me; what does the TB need to confirm then?11:30
pittiLaney: ah, you mean adding it to the team?11:30
Laneythe results of the poll11:30
Laneywell, that too11:31
cjwatsonTB is the administrator so would need to take action on it11:31
LaneyI am asking if the TB needs to explicitly confirm11:31
Laneyor just push the buttons to add the new member11:31
cjwatsonI think we just push buttons11:31
pittiI wouldn't see why, but I might miss something11:31
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LaneyI thought I recalled you ratifying previous polls, but good11:32
Laneywas concerned because at the last minute I can't make the meeting tonight, so I wanted to ensure that micahg can be a full member at it11:33
pittiLaney: I actually voted, I just seem to have missed the announcement of the result11:33
Laneyhasn't been done yet until after it's confirmed at this meeting11:34
Laneybut you can see the result on your poll link11:34
Laney(FYI I have been trying to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Restaffing but found it a bit confusing on this point)11:38
pittidoes anyone have an idea how I work around the "Server presented certificate that does not match host staging.launchpad.net"  lplib error when trying to connect to staging?11:41
pitti('DNS', '*.staging.launchpad.net')11:41
pittithat doesn't seem to include "staging.lp.net" itself11:42
pittiah, ignore me, it's the second part of subjectAltName, so it ought to work?11:42
pittiah, bug 839826 ?11:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 839826 in python-httplib2 (Ubuntu) "Incorrectly checks for SSL certificate domain names" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83982611:50
pittithis even has a patch, trying that11:50
* Laney ran into that on Debian too11:56
pittiworks fine, sponsoring this11:59
LaneyDktrKranz: tumbleweed: ^ any chance of uploading to debian?12:04
DktrKranzLaney: could do, non sure about "when"12:10
Laneyas you please, I built a package for myself12:10
DktrKranzI think I could be able to prepare an upload on Wed at latest12:11
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jmlpitti: I'm still getting those tracebacks in .xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/687590/12:39
pittijml: i. e. this still crashes for you? python -c 'from gi.repository import GLib; print GLib.markup_escape_text("a&b")'12:40
jmlpitti: yes. TypeError: markup_escape_text() takes exactly 2 argument(s) (1 given)12:40
* pitti scratches head -- this is oneiric current?12:41
* pitti tries on current live CD12:41
jmlpitti: yes. fresh update today.12:42
jmlpitti: if you want, I can give you some package versions.12:42
jmlpitti: but I'd neet to know which ones are relevant12:42
pittijml: I first test on current live CD, to check whether it's my system that is non-standard somehow12:42
jmlpitti: makes sense. thanks.12:43
pittino, works on current desktop live CD12:43
pittijml: dpkg -l libgirepository-1.0-1 gir1.2-glib-2.0 python-gobject12:43
pittigir1.2-glib-2.0     1.29.16-0ubuntu112:44
pittithere you go12:44
pittijml: you want 1.29.1712:45
pittijml: strange that you got the current version of libgirepository-1.0-1, it's built from the same source12:46
jmlpitti: for some reason, it's kept back12:46
pittiwhat does sudo apt-get install gir1.2-glib-2.0 say?12:46
pittiit might want to remove something, so don't say yes, just check what it complains about12:47
cjwatsondown to merely nine LP-batched pages of build failures ...12:47
pittijml: ^12:47
jmlcjwatson: yay progress?12:48
pittijml: well, I was referring to what I said before, but agreed to "yay progress" :)12:48
cjwatsonafter a long and protracted war of attrition, the enemy is now merely nine times our size12:48
jmlpitti: will do. just need a sec for an upgrade I started to finish.12:48
cjwatsonbut I think the lesson is "don't let the enemy get that large in the first place"12:49
pitticjwatson: doesn't the vast majority of the universe FTBFS just happen due to us having a different toolchain and through bad luck through autosyncs?12:50
jmlpitti: I think it just wants new packages: python-gobject-212:50
pittii. e. do we actually have a realistic alternative to not introduce these?12:50
jmlpitti: nothing being removed12:50
pittijml: that's right12:50
pittijml: so it seems you have the old python-gobject, too12:50
cjwatsonpitti: no, but we did have a realistic alternative to leaving them untended for > six months12:50
pittijml: yes, you do12:50
jmlpitti: yeah, I do. Have just installed the latest gir1.2-glib-2.012:51
cjwatsonwith a large queue, people get into the mindset that build failures are basically normal and that there's no rush12:51
pittijml: don't you use dist-upgrade? a mere upgrade will hold them back, right12:51
jmlpitti: my dist-upgrade has been broken for a while.12:51
pitticjwatson: agreed to > 6 months12:51
jmlpitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/687600/12:51
pittiit's just not something I like to see us spending manmonths on right after the autosync wave12:52
cjwatsonthe vast majority are easy; I fixed 15 build failures yesterday despite only being around for a few hours on a Sunday when others were asleep; if we'd been putting in consistent effort, there wouldn't be a problem12:52
pittijml: hm, flashplugin-installer is at
* jml checks ppa12:53
jml flashplugin-installer : Depends: flashplugin-downloader but it is not installable12:53
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cjwatson(this is not to say that some people haven't been putting in consistent effort, but there aren't enough of them)12:54
Laneywhich ftbfs list are you using?12:56
Laneynemerle is binaries removed; close?12:56
directhexIMHO we should just kill nemerle for real12:57
directhexit's been a waste of archive space for years12:57
cjwatsonLaney: it'll still show up in test rebuilds if binaries are removed; if you close the bug it will just get refiled at some point, unless the source is removed12:58
cjwatsonremoving binaries is a solution of sorts to NBS, but it doesn't eliminate FTBFS12:59
Laneyyeah we should probably just get it killed12:59
cjwatsonI don't object but would need a bug with rationale12:59
LaneyI have definitely made a net negative contribution to package numbers in Debian since I became a DD13:00
pittiLaney: well, quality > quantity :)13:01
jmlOh. Hmm.13:01
jmlflashplugin-downloader exists, but only for i386. amd64 seems to be out of luck.13:02
pittijml: flashplugin-downloader:i386 exists13:03
pittijml: perhaps you upgraded to oneiric early, but didn't set up multiarch as per slangasek's announcement?13:03
cjwatsonthe idea was to magically transition people to that, but I don't think it's completed yet13:03
jmlpitti: well, *that* sounds plausible :)13:03
cjwatsonoh, could just be that, yes13:03
pittihe made it sound like natty -> oneiric beta upgrade would work, but natty -> alpha-2 -> beta-1 wouldn't13:04
pittijml: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2011-August/000886.html13:04
jmlpitti: yeah, got it, thanks.13:04
didrocksjml: I guess it's https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2011-August/000886.html13:05
jmldidrocks: thanks. I think I've got it though :)13:05
didrocksjml: oupss, seems I didn't read the 2 last lines, sorry for repeating :)13:06
jmldidrocks: that's ok. :)13:07
debfxpitti: pkgbinarymangler doesn't touch .desktop files if they don't have a Gettext-Domain key, right?13:10
pittidebfx: it adds X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain to .desktop files if it can figure out the domain13:10
pitti(and then removes translations)13:11
debfxpitti: oh, how does it figure out the domain?13:11
pittidebfx: ah, sorry, I mixed that up13:12
pittidebfx: the answer to your question is "yes"13:12
pittidebfx: dh_translations adds the -Domain: key13:12
debfxok, thanks13:13
pittidebfx: (it's built from pkgbinarymangler source, but it's not done by pkgbinarymangler, the binary package)13:13
pittidebfx: dh_translations checks a few standard places, like po/Makefile ("GETTEXT_PACKAGE"), setup.cfg ("domain="), and some cmake equivalent13:14
pittieverything which doesn't use standard intltool/automake/python distutils/cmake needs to be fixed manually13:14
dokopitti, alamanah and seahorse-plugins need a new upload13:15
debfxpitti: dh_translations isn't run automatically though?13:15
pittidoko: seahorse-plugins is gone13:15
pittidebfx: no by debhelper; it's done by cdbs' gnome.mk (and perhaps pkg-kde-* cdbs modules)13:16
dokopitti, fine, then please re-upload alamanah13:16
pittidebfx: there's a --with-translations dh module13:16
pittidoko: ah, you removed the binaries; right, doing13:16
pittidoko: uploaded; will depwait until the libcruptui binaries get NEWed and published, but will sort itself out13:18
Laneywe can fix gdcm by syncing13:19
Laneynot sure if it needs ffe though13:19
Laneyhttp://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gdcm/index.php?title=GDCM_Release_2.0.18 "probably"13:21
dokoSweetshark, please could you have a look at https://launchpad.net/bugs/83577313:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 835773 in writer2latex (Ubuntu Oneiric) "writer2latex version 1.0.2-5ubuntu1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed]13:39
* Sweetshark looks13:41
Sweetsharkeek, that dep might be ugly.13:42
hallynanyone in coredev have a few minutes to take a look at the fix for bug 838205 ?14:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 838205 in systemtap (Ubuntu) "systemtap fails to compile simple tapsets" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83820514:06
hallynsystemtap is unusable in o without it14:06
hallynzul: ^14:07
zulhallyn: sure14:09
hallynzul: thanks14:09
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tkamppeterpitti, s-c-p uploaded and PK changes reported as bug 847896.14:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 847896 in policykit-desktop-privileges (Ubuntu P-series) "cups-pk-helper/PolicyKit does not provide the desired authentication modes for system-config-printer" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84789614:30
pittitkamppeter: I saw, thanks!14:30
charlie-tcaCan I assign bug 845549 to the desktop team?14:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 845549 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Do not ship /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84554914:37
dholbachpitti, I think I can close https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-httplib2/+bug/839826?14:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 839826 in python-httplib2 (Ubuntu) "Incorrectly checks for SSL certificate domain names" [High,New]14:54
pittidholbach: oh, didn't that get auto-closed with the upload?14:54
dholbachok, closing :)14:54
LaneyCloses: vs. LP: ;-)14:55
pittiargh, sorry14:56
pittidholbach: thanks!14:56
dholbachde rien14:56
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dholbachLaney, do you think you can update your debdiffs.txt list?15:12
Laneywhat for?15:12
Laneybdmurray is tagging new ones15:12
Laneys/tagging/dealing with/ (by subscribing spnosors)15:13
dholbachoh, so they should all turn up on the sponsoring overview?15:13
dholbachso is there a list of "old ones"?15:13
Laneywe only have to deal with the backlog15:13
Laneythat's my file15:13
dholbachok, can you update it? :-)15:13
dholbachI came across a few ones that luckily were closed already15:14
Laneyclosed since I generated it?15:14
dholbachthanks muchly15:16
Laneydholbach: if I give you the script, can you get it running on some qa machine?15:17
dholbachI guess I can - what does it need?15:17
Laneyjust lplib15:17
dholbachok cool15:18
ubuntu__hi all, Q). lh config --mode ubuntu --tasks "ubuntu-live" --distribution lucid hangs on grub, creating file /etc/default/grub/15:24
ximionhi! could someone who has the required rights please mark lp bug #847591 as priority:"high" and mark it as "needs to be fixed until oneiric release" (target it to oneiric)?15:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 847591 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84759115:32
cjwatsonximion: done15:33
ximioncjwatson: Thanks!15:33
ximionthis bug renders PK unusable and will result in an FTBFS very soon, if it is the bug I have in mind15:34
ximion(I'll provide a fix asap)15:34
dholbachdoko, I'll close https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse-plugins/+bug/832888 - it seems the package was removed from oneiric15:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 832888 in seahorse-plugins (Ubuntu Oneiric) "seahorse-plugins version 2.30.1-3ubuntu2 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed]15:40
dokodholbach, yes, scroll back for pitti's comments15:41
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desrtdoko: hey.  i was wondering if you could take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/83897515:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 838975 in eglibc (Ubuntu) "weird pthread/fork race/deadlock" [Undecided,New]15:48
desrtdoko: it's causing the compiles for glib to occasionally hang on the builders15:49
dokodesrt, you're sure that this is not an glib issue?15:51
desrtdoko: i've attached a testcase that's written against pure libc15:51
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desrtdoko: so it's either libc or kernel15:51
desrtand i suspect libc (for reasons listed in the bug)15:51
dokogeser, pitti: vala issues in bug 832770 and bug 83276015:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 832770 in vala-dbus-binding-tool (Ubuntu Oneiric) "vala-dbus-binding-tool version 0.1.6-1ubuntu3 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83277015:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 832760 in valatoys (Ubuntu Oneiric) "valatoys version 0.10.3-1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83276015:52
dokosoren, zul: does this still belong to server? bug 83699715:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 836997 in user-mode-linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "user-mode-linux: Missing build dependencies: linux-source-2.6.35" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83699715:53
dholbach@pilot out15:53
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zuldoko: dont think so15:54
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dokoapw, ogasawara: is uns still maintained by the kernel team? or can it be removed? see bug 75609616:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 756096 in uns (Ubuntu Oneiric) "uns version failed to build on i386" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75609616:10
apwdoko, erm no idea.  will have a look16:11
ogasawaradoko: I'm unaware of anyone from our team maintaining it.16:12
dokojamespage, could you have a look at 835757? new minor upstream version in debian, which seems to address the build failure16:14
jamespagelooking at bug 835757 now16:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 835757 in uimaj (Ubuntu Oneiric) "uimaj version 2.3.0-2 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83575716:15
bregmahey folks, I have a fix for a FTBFS bug in oneiric but I'm not sure where to go next, could I get some guidance?16:20
infinitybregma: Follow up to the launchpad bug (or file one, if there isn't one) with a patch?16:21
bregmawhat kind of a patch?  a merge request?  a debdiff?16:22
infinity"A patch".16:22
infinityPeople are far too picky about how they get their patches, and they shouldn't be.16:22
infinityIf you fixed the package, show us how.  Leave it to someone actually uploading the fix to worry about how to make it get there. ;)16:23
bregmaI have no idea what ;people uploading the fix' prefer, but I can provide any of debdiff, merge request to the repo on launchpad, or bare diff if that what someone would rather have, how am I supposed to tell?16:25
infinitybregma: I like simple patches or debdiffs.  Others like merge requests.  Others still might like you to phone them and explain the fix.  I say, do what you find works best for you.16:25
infinitybregma: We can deal with most/all of the above, and fretting over how you submit a patch isn't my idea of fun.  Just give us what works for you, and we'll make it work for us.16:26
dholbachyeah, just attach the patch on the bug in LP (if there's a bug already) and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors - that should work16:27
nigelbinfinity: That's one of the best advice I've heard :)16:28
apwdoko, ok so this usn build failure seems to be include foobar again16:28
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jamespagedoko: minor version upgrade on uimaj looks fine for sync - however will need a sync of maven-repo-helper as has a minimum required version higher that we have in oneiric by +x.x.1 which looks OK to me as well16:41
dokojamespage, thanks, could you update the report?16:42
jamespagedoko: ack16:42
jamespagedoko: done16:45
dokobarry: please could you have a look at bug 835762? python2.6 hard coded?16:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 835762 in ubuntustudio-controls (Ubuntu Oneiric) "ubuntustudio-controls version 0.4.7build1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83576216:49
micahgbarry: is there a reason why python-debian wasn't converted to dh_python2?16:50
Laneydholbach: I'd forgotten how long this script takes to run ...16:54
dokoapw, so yes, the world moves around the kernel ;-P16:55
apwdoko, no i mean its another case of broken handling of the includes ... different though, and not kernel fault, am working on fixing it16:55
dokoahh, ok16:55
apwdoko, looks like long standning bad code.  probabally the compiler stopped doing something evil and it broke16:56
ejathi .. anyone looking into bug 81144116:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 811441 in dbus (Ubuntu) "Unable to connect to the system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused (oneiric)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81144116:59
SpamapShmm.. would it be an accurate statement that the alternate and mini isos don't use ubiquity at all?17:02
cjwatsonSpamapS: yes, except for oem-config17:04
SpamapScjwatson: I've just redirected bug 847782 to d-i from ubiquity then.. I'm thinking this is actually correct behavior from d-i .. and we may just close the bug.. but its probably worth a bit of discussion first.17:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 847782 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity writes a permanent ethernet entry in interfaces file" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84778217:07
* SpamapS already s/Ubiquity/installer/ as well17:08
cjwatsonI'll have a look when my internet access isn't made of stale cheese.17:09
cjwatsonSpamapS: surely this is a bug in the new upstart network jobs?  the 'auto' line has been there a lot longer than they have; they're what broke things17:13
cjwatson(unless the pre-upstart init scripts behaved the same way; I forget)17:15
ScottKSpamapS: Can haz clamav in -updates?17:18
ejatthanks cjwatson17:21
* ejat just upgrade to oneiric .. need to do the manual work around .. 17:22
SpamapSScottK: I did that last Friday I thought17:22
SpamapSScottK: its possible that sru-release timed out.. Is clamav big?17:23
ScottKNot really.17:23
SpamapScjwatson: the pre-upstart scripts would wait for 1 minute per interface.17:23
ScottKhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/clamav says it's not there.17:23
SpamapScjwatson: upstart did away with that waiting.17:23
SpamapScjwatson: which caused *a lot* of issues for server users with complex network setups.17:24
SpamapScjwatson: so the idea now is to wait only if its listed in /etc/network/interfaces .. but I may have underestimated how many people have an 'auto eth0' that will never come up. :-P17:25
SpamapSScottK: indeed it did not go through. Trying again.17:26
SpamapSScottK: succeeded this time17:29
ScottKCool.  Thanks again.17:29
ghostcubeich kenne einen philosophie studenten der hat nen job gefunden :D17:34
ghostcubeups wrong channel lol17:35
ghostcubei hate quassel sometimes17:35
ghostcubesorry guys17:35
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barryScottK: or other kubuntuistas.  i just grabbed the daily image for kubuntu amd64, but when i try to install it in a vm, i get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources".  it ask if i want to continue w/o installing a kernel, which the warning makes me think is a bad idea.  does anybody know if this is a temporary (i.e. archive) problem, or something more serious that warrants a bug report?17:52
barry 17:52
ScottKIt was temporary.17:52
ScottKThe alternates were rebuilt after and should work.17:53
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barryScottK: cool, thanks, i'll try again18:05
bdmurrayIs there somebody who might review my apport merge proposal and upload it?18:08
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dokobarry, please don't set reports like bug 835001 to incomplete. it's reproducible in the rebuild. it doesn't have to ftbfs in the main archive18:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 835001 in pyacidobasic (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pyacidobasic version 1.0-3 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83500118:38
barrydoko: how can you debug it if it only ftb in the test rebuild then?18:39
dokobarry, does it really build in a clean/fresh pbuilder chroot?18:41
dokomost likely an issue with python versions18:41
barryit built in my sbuild cleanly.  i'll retry it in pbuilder after finishing up on python-django-nova18:41
dokoSweetshark, ooo-build-extensions is still in unstable, black-list it?18:42
dokobarry, fix uploaded19:03
barrydoko: fix for...?19:03
dokothe build failure19:03
barrydoko: acidobasic?19:04
barrydoko: okay cool, thanks19:04
dokoLaney, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79716630/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.fregression_2100.76-3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz19:05
SpamapSHrm, so I just found that sary-ruby ftbfs on Ubuntu where it does build on sid because of libglib being multi-arch .. is Debian headed that direction already?19:12
NCommanderWho maintains the rmadison CGI? I'd like to see it properly work with ports architectures19:27
micahg+1 :)19:28
* Pici as well19:28
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sorenNCommander: I believe it's cjwatson.19:33
* NCommander pokes at the script19:34
sorendoko: I'd say yes.19:35
sorendoko: I'm on holiday for a couple of days. I'll take a look when I get back.19:35
dokosoren, thanks19:35
sorendoko: Thanks for pointing it out!19:36
RoboTuxGreetings everyone19:56
RoboTuxThe tcc package in Ubuntu suffers a quite bad bug: it generates programs which only runs on Debian and Ubuntu19:56
RoboTuxThe fix is in Debian and a merge package has successfuly been generated19:56
RoboTuxCould anyone update the package in Ubuntu to this new version? (the changes are small and tested since 2 months in Debian)19:57
RoboTuxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tcc/+bug/820983 Here is the bug19:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 820983 in tcc (Ubuntu) "Set a wrong path to ELF interpreter (breaks ELF ABI)" [Undecided,New]19:58
dokoI want to turn off compiz. 5th crash today ... what's the best option?20:20
dokomicahg, just install on top?20:21
micahgdoko: should be available from lightdm20:21
dokohey, feels even faster ...20:24
RoboTuxDoes anyone know who I should ask about tcc?20:26
micahgRoboTux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess20:26
dokoand colsXrows numbers are back again when resizing \o/20:31
cjwatsonNCommander,soren: not within my control; the mirror that CGI script is inspecting doesn't have ports on it20:33
cjwatsonNCommander,soren: not within my control; the mirror that CGI script is inspecting doesn't have ports on it20:38
gesercjwatson: did you sync tecnoballz? if yes, it "Failed to upload": Require Pre-Depends: dpkg (>= 1.15.6) when using xz compression. (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79382192/upload_2868254_log.txt)21:02
Laneydoko: ah, I had to use --build-dep-resolver=internal21:27
Laneydoko: we need to remove 'vr'21:56
dokoLaney, I assume, just the source?21:57
dokoahh, no. binary and source21:59
Laneyyeah it has binaries too21:59
Laneywas removed from sid a while ago & provides an uninstallable real package which would otherwise be pure virtual21:59
SpamapS@pilot in22:01
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cjwatsongeser: hm, I did but I never got a failure mail.  I'll fix that, thanks22:04
Laneynative sync bug (due to not attributing you correctly)22:05
cjwatsonLaney: is that the same as the failure to show up in +uploadedpackages?22:08
LaneyI belive that's all the same bug, yes22:08
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* SpamapS wonders when he'll be able to stop fighting unity/compiz and just use his computer. :-P23:55
infinitySpamapS: When you switch to xubuntu.23:59

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