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nlsthznHi, I need to get access to #ubuntuforums-mods, at the moment I don't have a cloak so I need an invite everytime... is it possible to get an "unaffiliated" cloak or something in that line?16:32
Unit193For unaffiliated cloaks, ask in #freenode. This is only where you get member cloaks if you are a member, thanks!16:34
Picinlsthzn: How would a cloak help you get in any faster?16:34
IdleOne#ubuntuforums-mods forwards to #ubuntuforums16:34
nlsthznI have no idea... What I understand about IRC is scary... nope I assure you they are two different channels... I am in both at the moment :)16:35
LjLyou need to be added to their access list16:35
PiciIdealy, they should be putting users' accounts onto their +I list.16:35
Picinlsthzn: &16:35
Pici^^16:35
PiciA cloak won't do anything helpful here.16:36
nlsthznThanks for the info... I will try and figure out why I need a cloak then :p16:37
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rwwI take it #ubuntuforums-mods didn't listen when I told them that last time :(16:52
PiciSounds like it.16:52
op(20:55:48) <Guest68512> ip-83-149-3-16.nwgsm.ru17:13
opPlease, debanned me in #ubuntu-ru:17:14
opip-83-149-3-16.nwgsm.ru17:14
k1l_op: why were you banned in #ubuntu-ru. have you tried to talk to the op who banned you?17:19
opMay have been someone. My ip is not static.17:28
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k1l_op: i dont see any bans matching on you17:55
rww17:55 [freenode] -!- 0 - #ubuntu-ru: ban *!*@*.nwgsm.ru [by ubuntuhelp!~ubuntuhel@unaffiliated/a4tech/bot/ubuntuhelp, 2410457 secs ago]17:56
Myrttioh my17:57
rwwindeed17:57
k1l_oh, did overread that :/17:57
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macer1Hi :)19:38
macer1is ubottu this cool bot who answers to for example: !11.10, !netsplit, etc?19:38
rwwyes, ubottu is amongst other things a factoid bot19:39
macer1i like him19:39
rww!gender19:39
ubottuyes, I can confirm I am a female bot :)19:39
macer1can he join my channel :D? i mean #ubuntu-pl - polish support for ubuntu19:39
macer1lol19:40
macer1can she join my channel?19:40
rww. ubottu can't, but lubotu3 could19:40
macer1what is the diffrence?19:40
Myrttidifferent bot19:41
Myrttiwell19:41
m4vmacer1: none, all lubotu* are ubottu clones19:41
Myrttidifferent nick19:41
rwwmacer1: not much. we split them off into different bots depending on channel to avoid overloading ubottu19:41
rwwand lubotu3 is the EMEA LoCo bot19:41
macer1oh. ok19:41
m4vtsimpson: ^19:41
macer1so i am waiting :D19:41
rwwmacer1: I don't think you're an op on #ubuntu-pl?19:42
IdleOnea channel admin needs to make that request19:42
rww^19:42
tsimpsonI'd want someone from the ubuntu-pl LoCo team or someone with +f to ask19:43
macer1i didnt say that19:43
macer1OK19:43
macer1i will ask op19:45
macer1;)19:46
macer1Can i translate ubottu?19:46
macer1so she will speak polish on #ubuntu-pl then19:46
macer1btw. what is doing +f ?19:46
IdleOnefounder19:47
rww. +f is channel access list modification. "deputy founder", if you like19:47
macer1ok, founder.19:47
IdleOnejust don't shoot the sheriff founder19:48
macer1can ubottu be translated?19:49
IdleOneyes, you can translate the factoids19:49
macer1cool :)19:50
macer1you said, you want someone from pl loco team to ask?19:50
macer1here i am ;D19:50
IdleOnemacer1: you are not on the channel access list. typically bots are only put in channels when a admin/founder asks19:51
macer1i know.19:51
tsimpsonor someone who is an owner/admin of the ~ubuntu-pl launchpad team19:51
IdleOne^19:52
macer1hmm. wait. we have one supybot19:52
macer1can we import ubuntu factoids?19:52
macer1his name is "Przekliniak", out #ubuntu-pl bot19:52
tsimpsononly if the bot uses our Encyclopedia plugin19:53
macer1I think we can add it19:53
macer1so maybe it will be better to just add plugins to our bot19:56
ubot2`einand called the ops in #ubuntu-se ()21:14
ubot2`einand called the ops in #ubuntu-se ()21:14
ubot2`einand called the ops in #ubuntu-se ()21:16
rwwIdleOne: do you get what the hell is going on in there?21:16
rwwbecause I don't.21:16
IdleOnetopyli: can you check that out21:16
IdleOneno I don't speak jibber jabber21:17
IdleOne:?21:17
rwwtopyli's probably the only person around with anything resembling access list access21:17
IdleOneyup21:17
tsimpsonanything interesting happening in there?21:18
topylilet me see21:18
ubot2`einand called the ops in #ubuntu-se ()21:18
rwwI think einard might just be being faily.21:18
rwwand there go the cavalry21:19
IdleOnefrom what I gather einand is the issue but I could be off21:19
rwwor google translate isn't picking up on the nuance of what the other guy's saying21:20
rwwI keep seeing "donkey", which is never a good sign21:20
IdleOnenope21:20
Fuchswell, he felt personally attached21:21
Fuchsattacked, even21:21
IdleOneseems the situation has resolved itself21:21
Fuchsseems it didn't, by what I get. At least this is not really ubuntu support, but personal debate.21:22
FuchsNo local ops available there?21:22
IdleOnedoesn't seem there is, topyli has access if needed21:23
rwwoh well, at least the ops called stopped >.>21:23
topylioh dear my swedish is rusty21:23
tsimpsoneveryone in the world should be forced to speak English at all times21:23
* tsimpson hides from the international ops21:24
Fuchstsimpson: Du chasch mi mau chrüüzwys, weisch Du das?21:24
rwwoh god, you've set Fuchs off21:24
IdleOneSpeak English it is the natural language of hoomans!21:24
* Fuchs was forced already to speak english, french, german and spanish today, so enough for me.21:25
topylii think the discussion got distracted to safer directions now21:39
IdleOne!cookie | topyli21:40
ubottutopyli: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!21:40
topyliyay!21:40
Fuchscookies!21:43
Unit193!beer-#ubuntu-offtopic21:43
ubottubeer is always appreciated.21:43
IdleOnebut seriously if Klingons, Ferengi, Romulans can learn English....:P21:43
Fuchsespecially difficult topics and tech-speech are still too difficult in a foreign language for many people21:45
topylii'd somehow forgotten how rotten my swedish is21:47
topylilast time i was in sweden, i went to see rush in stockholm. i could hardly order beer and commuter train tickets21:48
IdleOneyou mean you forgot how to order two beers at a time21:49
Fuchsit's funny how some words are familiar to german21:49
Fuchsso sometimes I am able to get the context21:49
topyliwhich is even worse, i went there with my wife, unable to order two beers21:49
IdleOnehehe that is when you break out your best merican accent and speak in English21:51
IdleOneyou will be double charged but least you get the beer21:51
Unit193Hold up two fingers? :D21:51
FuchsUnit193: you never know wheter that is a sign telling the other one to fsck off in their culture :p21:52
Fuchs(not joking, some gestures like thumbs up mean totally different things in other cultures)21:52
Unit193Fuchs: Oh yeah, like the timeout sign from USA differs in UK for up yours? :P21:53
Fuchsexactly21:53
rwwwait what21:54
genii-aroundOr the two-finger peace sign if you turn it around21:54
topyliit's true. you have to be careful with gestures. you try to be friendly and suddenly they beat you to a pulp21:55
Fuchssame thing with presents and colours21:55
topyliyep21:55
Unit193^^ wanted to say colors ;)21:55
Fuchsgiving somebody in china (or japan?) a watch as a gift means the end of a relationship21:56
Fuchswe had a nice lecture on that, global market and cross cultural competences, with some nice examples21:56
Fuchsquite a lot you can do wrong21:56
topylii also took a 'cross-culture relations' course at the university back then21:57
topylistupid foreigners and their weird habits!21:57
FuchsI think it's an interesting topic21:57
topylibazhang just decided to ragequit21:58
Unit193We did something that is bad where he is ;)21:58
topyliyep :)21:58
Fuchsprobably I should not have mentioned asian cultures ;(21:58
topylinah, he's fine21:59
Fuchstopyli: you are from finland?21:59
Fuchs(just a guess by the name)21:59
topylihe's chinese, everybody else is equally everybody else22:00
topyliFuchs: yes22:00
Fuchsokay, so not too far away from sweden, but finnish is not an indogerman language afaik, so probably quite different from swedish, then22:01
topyliyes. swedish, norwegian and danish are similar and in the same family with other germanic languages. finnish is nothing like that22:02
Fuchsso I probably have no chance understanding a single word in it. Great :)22:03
topylifinnish, and estonian are family, along with more distant cousins like hungarian and some tiny languages spoken in russia22:03
Fuchswell, I don't know any of these either :p22:03
FuchsI only understand some germanic languages, and latin based ones22:04
topylinobody bothers to learn. people seem to think they're difficult22:04
topylii'm a genius, been speaking finnish since a little child! :)22:04
Fuchsand not spoken in many places22:04
FuchsI think I can reach more people with english, french and spanish22:05
Fuchstopyli: we talk about genious when you manage to pronounce some swiss german words correctly,22:05
Fuchsand I've been doing that for ages, ages!22:05
topylienglish is the modern latin, nobody bothers with anything else22:05
topylifrench and spanish are useful though22:05
FuchsI always wanted to learn italian as well, but there is not really a need to22:06
Fuchsarabic would be interesting, since it is spoken by a lot of people. But I heard that it is difficult22:06
topyliarabic is beautiful, would like to learn some just for the aesthetics of it22:07
topyliFuchs: just out of the studio today, let me advertise: http://www.mikseri.net/norttoni/22:09
topylitheres finnish for you :)22:09
Fuchsthanks, I'll listen to it later, I am currently deaf on one ear due to an illnes22:10
Fuchsbut I'll keep it in my bookmarks :)22:10
Fuchs(okay, I could listen to it in mono)22:10
topyliyou can download them if you want to save them for later22:11
Fuchsoh, indeed22:11
Fuchsthe small arrow thingie indicates it :)22:11
topyli(some people actually like it when their music is copied)22:11
Fuchsdoesn't sound too bad, for one ear :)22:12
Fuchstopyli: yeah. I organized a the national pirate party meeting a few weeks ago, then the singer of Dope Star Inc. was there, actually handing out CDs to everybody22:13
topyliyep. i don't understand why you'd make it harder for people to get your music22:13
FuchsI think it's a good thing for small bands, to actually get more new listeners22:14
topylicopying is not a threat. obscolecense is22:14
* rww ponders nudging you two to #ubuntu-offtopic22:14
Fuchsanyway, it's after midnight, I should go to sleep. And we abused this channel long enough22:14
Fuchsso nighty night, sleep well :)22:14
topylirww: there's a point there :)22:14
Fuchssorry rww  *hands cookie*22:14
* rww looks at cookie suspiciously22:14
* rww nibbles22:15
Fuchs:(  no trust ...  anyway, nighties  :)22:15
Unit193Good night22:15

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