[16:32] <nlsthzn> Hi, I need to get access to #ubuntuforums-mods, at the moment I don't have a cloak so I need an invite everytime... is it possible to get an "unaffiliated" cloak or something in that line?
[16:34] <Unit193> For unaffiliated cloaks, ask in #freenode. This is only where you get member cloaks if you are a member, thanks!
[16:34] <Pici> nlsthzn: How would a cloak help you get in any faster?
[16:34] <IdleOne> #ubuntuforums-mods forwards to #ubuntuforums
[16:35] <nlsthzn> I have no idea... What I understand about IRC is scary... nope I assure you they are two different channels... I am in both at the moment :)
[16:35] <LjL> you need to be added to their access list
[16:35] <Pici> Idealy, they should be putting users' accounts onto their +I list.
[16:35] <Pici> nlsthzn: &
[16:35] <Pici> ^^
[16:36] <Pici> A cloak won't do anything helpful here.
[16:37] <nlsthzn> Thanks for the info... I will try and figure out why I need a cloak then :p
[16:52] <rww> I take it #ubuntuforums-mods didn't listen when I told them that last time :(
[16:52] <Pici> Sounds like it.
[17:13] <op> (20:55:48) <Guest68512> ip-83-149-3-16.nwgsm.ru
[17:14] <op> Please, debanned me in #ubuntu-ru:
[17:14] <op> ip-83-149-3-16.nwgsm.ru
[17:19] <k1l_> op: why were you banned in #ubuntu-ru. have you tried to talk to the op who banned you?
[17:28] <op> May have been someone. My ip is not static.
[17:55] <k1l_> op: i dont see any bans matching on you
[17:56] <rww> 17:55 [freenode] -!- 0 - #ubuntu-ru: ban *!*@*.nwgsm.ru [by ubuntuhelp!~ubuntuhel@unaffiliated/a4tech/bot/ubuntuhelp, 2410457 secs ago]
[17:57] <Myrtti> oh my
[17:57] <rww> indeed
[17:57] <k1l_> oh, did overread that :/
[19:38] <macer1> Hi :)
[19:38] <macer1> is ubottu this cool bot who answers to for example: !11.10, !netsplit, etc?
[19:39] <rww> yes, ubottu is amongst other things a factoid bot
[19:39] <macer1> i like him
[19:39] <rww> !gender
[19:39] <macer1> can he join my channel :D? i mean #ubuntu-pl - polish support for ubuntu
[19:40] <macer1> lol
[19:40] <macer1> can she join my channel?
[19:40] <rww> . ubottu can't, but lubotu3 could
[19:40] <macer1> what is the diffrence?
[19:41] <Myrtti> different bot
[19:41] <Myrtti> well
[19:41] <m4v> macer1: none, all lubotu* are ubottu clones
[19:41] <Myrtti> different nick
[19:41] <rww> macer1: not much. we split them off into different bots depending on channel to avoid overloading ubottu
[19:41] <rww> and lubotu3 is the EMEA LoCo bot
[19:41] <macer1> oh. ok
[19:41] <m4v> tsimpson: ^
[19:41] <macer1> so i am waiting :D
[19:42] <rww> macer1: I don't think you're an op on #ubuntu-pl?
[19:42] <IdleOne> a channel admin needs to make that request
[19:42] <rww> ^
[19:43] <tsimpson> I'd want someone from the ubuntu-pl LoCo team or someone with +f to ask
[19:43] <macer1> i didnt say that
[19:43] <macer1> OK
[19:45] <macer1> i will ask op
[19:46] <macer1> ;)
[19:46] <macer1> Can i translate ubottu?
[19:46] <macer1> so she will speak polish on #ubuntu-pl then
[19:46] <macer1> btw. what is doing +f ?
[19:47] <IdleOne> founder
[19:47] <rww> . +f is channel access list modification. "deputy founder", if you like
[19:47] <macer1> ok, founder.
[19:48] <IdleOne> just don't shoot the sheriff founder
[19:49] <macer1> can ubottu be translated?
[19:49] <IdleOne> yes, you can translate the factoids
[19:50] <macer1> cool :)
[19:50] <macer1> you said, you want someone from pl loco team to ask?
[19:50] <macer1> here i am ;D
[19:51] <IdleOne> macer1: you are not on the channel access list. typically bots are only put in channels when a admin/founder asks
[19:51] <macer1> i know.
[19:51] <tsimpson> or someone who is an owner/admin of the ~ubuntu-pl launchpad team
[19:52] <IdleOne> ^
[19:52] <macer1> hmm. wait. we have one supybot
[19:52] <macer1> can we import ubuntu factoids?
[19:52] <macer1> his name is "Przekliniak", out #ubuntu-pl bot
[19:53] <tsimpson> only if the bot uses our Encyclopedia plugin
[19:53] <macer1> I think we can add it
[19:56] <macer1> so maybe it will be better to just add plugins to our bot
[21:14] <ubot2`> einand called the ops in #ubuntu-se ()
[21:14] <ubot2`> einand called the ops in #ubuntu-se ()
[21:16] <ubot2`> einand called the ops in #ubuntu-se ()
[21:16] <rww> IdleOne: do you get what the hell is going on in there?
[21:16] <rww> because I don't.
[21:16] <IdleOne> topyli: can you check that out
[21:17] <IdleOne> no I don't speak jibber jabber
[21:17] <IdleOne> :?
[21:17] <rww> topyli's probably the only person around with anything resembling access list access
[21:17] <IdleOne> yup
[21:18] <tsimpson> anything interesting happening in there?
[21:18] <topyli> let me see
[21:18] <ubot2`> einand called the ops in #ubuntu-se ()
[21:18] <rww> I think einard might just be being faily.
[21:19] <rww> and there go the cavalry
[21:19] <IdleOne> from what I gather einand is the issue but I could be off
[21:20] <rww> or google translate isn't picking up on the nuance of what the other guy's saying
[21:20] <rww> I keep seeing "donkey", which is never a good sign
[21:20] <IdleOne> nope
[21:21] <Fuchs> well, he felt personally attached
[21:21] <Fuchs> attacked, even
[21:21] <IdleOne> seems the situation has resolved itself
[21:22] <Fuchs> seems it didn't, by what I get. At least this is not really ubuntu support, but personal debate.
[21:22] <Fuchs> No local ops available there?
[21:23] <IdleOne> doesn't seem there is, topyli has access if needed
[21:23] <rww> oh well, at least the ops called stopped >.>
[21:23] <topyli> oh dear my swedish is rusty
[21:23] <tsimpson> everyone in the world should be forced to speak English at all times
[21:24]  * tsimpson hides from the international ops
[21:24] <Fuchs> tsimpson: Du chasch mi mau chrüüzwys, weisch Du das?
[21:24] <rww> oh god, you've set Fuchs off
[21:24] <IdleOne> Speak English it is the natural language of hoomans!
[21:25]  * Fuchs was forced already to speak english, french, german and spanish today, so enough for me.
[21:39] <topyli> i think the discussion got distracted to safer directions now
[21:40] <IdleOne> !cookie | topyli
[21:40] <topyli> yay!
[21:43] <Fuchs> cookies!
[21:43] <Unit193> !beer-#ubuntu-offtopic
[21:43] <IdleOne> but seriously if Klingons, Ferengi, Romulans can learn English....:P
[21:45] <Fuchs> especially difficult topics and tech-speech are still too difficult in a foreign language for many people
[21:47] <topyli> i'd somehow forgotten how rotten my swedish is
[21:48] <topyli> last time i was in sweden, i went to see rush in stockholm. i could hardly order beer and commuter train tickets
[21:49] <IdleOne> you mean you forgot how to order two beers at a time
[21:49] <Fuchs> it's funny how some words are familiar to german
[21:49] <Fuchs> so sometimes I am able to get the context
[21:49] <topyli> which is even worse, i went there with my wife, unable to order two beers
[21:51] <IdleOne> hehe that is when you break out your best merican accent and speak in English
[21:51] <IdleOne> you will be double charged but least you get the beer
[21:51] <Unit193> Hold up two fingers? :D
[21:52] <Fuchs> Unit193: you never know wheter that is a sign telling the other one to fsck off in their culture :p
[21:52] <Fuchs> (not joking, some gestures like thumbs up mean totally different things in other cultures)
[21:53] <Unit193> Fuchs: Oh yeah, like the timeout sign from USA differs in UK for up yours? :P
[21:53] <Fuchs> exactly
[21:54] <rww> wait what
[21:54] <genii-around> Or the two-finger peace sign if you turn it around
[21:55] <topyli> it's true. you have to be careful with gestures. you try to be friendly and suddenly they beat you to a pulp
[21:55] <Fuchs> same thing with presents and colours
[21:55] <topyli> yep
[21:55] <Unit193> ^^ wanted to say colors ;)
[21:56] <Fuchs> giving somebody in china (or japan?) a watch as a gift means the end of a relationship
[21:56] <Fuchs> we had a nice lecture on that, global market and cross cultural competences, with some nice examples
[21:56] <Fuchs> quite a lot you can do wrong
[21:57] <topyli> i also took a 'cross-culture relations' course at the university back then
[21:57] <topyli> stupid foreigners and their weird habits!
[21:57] <Fuchs> I think it's an interesting topic
[21:58] <topyli> bazhang just decided to ragequit
[21:58] <Unit193> We did something that is bad where he is ;)
[21:58] <topyli> yep :)
[21:58] <Fuchs> probably I should not have mentioned asian cultures ;(
[21:59] <topyli> nah, he's fine
[21:59] <Fuchs> topyli: you are from finland?
[21:59] <Fuchs> (just a guess by the name)
[22:00] <topyli> he's chinese, everybody else is equally everybody else
[22:00] <topyli> Fuchs: yes
[22:01] <Fuchs> okay, so not too far away from sweden, but finnish is not an indogerman language afaik, so probably quite different from swedish, then
[22:02] <topyli> yes. swedish, norwegian and danish are similar and in the same family with other germanic languages. finnish is nothing like that
[22:03] <Fuchs> so I probably have no chance understanding a single word in it. Great :)
[22:03] <topyli> finnish, and estonian are family, along with more distant cousins like hungarian and some tiny languages spoken in russia
[22:03] <Fuchs> well, I don't know any of these either :p
[22:04] <Fuchs> I only understand some germanic languages, and latin based ones
[22:04] <topyli> nobody bothers to learn. people seem to think they're difficult
[22:04] <topyli> i'm a genius, been speaking finnish since a little child! :)
[22:04] <Fuchs> and not spoken in many places
[22:05] <Fuchs> I think I can reach more people with english, french and spanish
[22:05] <Fuchs> topyli: we talk about genious when you manage to pronounce some swiss german words correctly,
[22:05] <Fuchs> and I've been doing that for ages, ages!
[22:05] <topyli> english is the modern latin, nobody bothers with anything else
[22:05] <topyli> french and spanish are useful though
[22:06] <Fuchs> I always wanted to learn italian as well, but there is not really a need to
[22:06] <Fuchs> arabic would be interesting, since it is spoken by a lot of people. But I heard that it is difficult
[22:07] <topyli> arabic is beautiful, would like to learn some just for the aesthetics of it
[22:09] <topyli> Fuchs: just out of the studio today, let me advertise: http://www.mikseri.net/norttoni/
[22:09] <topyli> theres finnish for you :)
[22:10] <Fuchs> thanks, I'll listen to it later, I am currently deaf on one ear due to an illnes
[22:10] <Fuchs> but I'll keep it in my bookmarks :)
[22:10] <Fuchs> (okay, I could listen to it in mono)
[22:11] <topyli> you can download them if you want to save them for later
[22:11] <Fuchs> oh, indeed
[22:11] <Fuchs> the small arrow thingie indicates it :)
[22:11] <topyli> (some people actually like it when their music is copied)
[22:12] <Fuchs> doesn't sound too bad, for one ear :)
[22:13] <Fuchs> topyli: yeah. I organized a the national pirate party meeting a few weeks ago, then the singer of Dope Star Inc. was there, actually handing out CDs to everybody
[22:13] <topyli> yep. i don't understand why you'd make it harder for people to get your music
[22:14] <Fuchs> I think it's a good thing for small bands, to actually get more new listeners
[22:14] <topyli> copying is not a threat. obscolecense is
[22:14]  * rww ponders nudging you two to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:14] <Fuchs> anyway, it's after midnight, I should go to sleep. And we abused this channel long enough
[22:14] <Fuchs> so nighty night, sleep well :)
[22:14] <topyli> rww: there's a point there :)
[22:14] <Fuchs> sorry rww  *hands cookie*
[22:14]  * rww looks at cookie suspiciously
[22:15]  * rww nibbles
[22:15] <Fuchs> :(  no trust ...  anyway, nighties  :)
[22:15] <Unit193> Good night