[00:56] <akgraner> moving stuff to the wiki now
[00:56] <akgraner> leaving the stories that still need summaries on the googledoc
[00:56] <akgraner> but have place holders on the wiki
[00:56] <akgraner> one sec and I'll be out of the wiki
[00:57] <akgraner> pleia2, I fact checked one of the stories that we have listed "In the Press" with Canonical and the story contains incorrect information that DOES NOt need to be perpetuated so I pulled the story
[01:01] <akgraner> Ok all that is left on the google doc is the stories that still need summaries.  I'll do the stats in the morning....
[01:03] <akgraner> Also since nhandler is in college now who is reminding teams about team reports?
[01:09] <akgraner> 7 summaries are left and if someone could go through the wiki and check for spelling and grammar as well as formatting that would be great :-)  Thanks!
[01:27]  * nlsthzn has to make a turn at work... so I might be able to have a look again in a few hours... no promises... 
[02:14] <pleia2> akgraner: thanks
[03:44] <pleia2> last week 11.10 updates were included, but that is HUGE since it's not released yet, do we really want to be doing that?
[03:45] <pleia2> just leaving it blank for now, I've added the other ones
[03:58] <pleia2> ok, I was going to finish up these last few summaries, but my dinner has arrived and I've been working for about 13 hours :) I will probably need sleep after dinner
[03:58] <pleia2> there are three more The Planet ones to do
[03:58] <pleia2> I'll finish them up tomorrow if others don't, and I'll add the stats
[03:59]  * pleia2 dinner
[08:33]  * nlsthzn is hitting the last few links
[08:37] <nlsthzn> ok, the last two or so are done...
[08:37] <nlsthzn> phew...
[11:31] <Myrtti> whoop
[11:32] <Myrtti> where do you collect the links for next weeks?
[12:10] <akgraner> pleia2, in the past we switched to reporting on the development release at Beta 1
[12:11] <akgraner> and yep it's always been huge for Beta 1 and Beta 2 :-)
[12:11] <akgraner> I don't have a preference...so what every you all think
[12:15] <Myrtti> anyway http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/09/12/qt-project/
[15:33] <akgraner> pleia2, BeautifulSoup error when I try to run the scripts
[15:33] <akgraner> and I installed it already so I don't know why I am getting the errors
[15:34] <akgraner> we can figure all that out at UDS :-)
[15:42] <akgraner> added the remaining summaries and I'll do the stats now...
[15:43] <akgraner> While I am puling the stats can someone do a read through - I'll fix the camelcases when I add the stats...
[15:43] <akgraner> thanks
[16:06] <pleia2> akgraner: I think we shouldn't do it until release, it's way too long (and people don't love them anyway)
[16:09] <akgraner> fine with me
[16:09] <akgraner> I just didn't want to change protocol without talking to the team
[16:09] <akgraner> :-)
[16:09] <akgraner> I get accused of doing that enough accidentally without doing it on purpose :-)
[16:10] <akgraner> addind the Ask Ubuntu Stats now
[16:10] <akgraner> the other ones are in
[16:10] <akgraner> and all the summaries have been moved over and I changed the dates on the googledoc to reflect Issue 233
[16:12] <pleia2> \o/
[16:16] <akgraner> Stats are in
[16:16] <akgraner> wiki saved :-)
[16:17] <akgraner> pleia2, I added the development team stuff last night
[16:17] <akgraner> and removed all the ## lines
[16:18] <akgraner> If another set of eyes can read through it and test the links we can get this thing published and outta here :-)
[16:20] <pleia2> my eyes are too sleepy still
[16:36] <akgraner> pleia2, I know what you mean - I've looked at it too much atm...going to eat some lunch then if no one else has proofed it  -- I'll go back over it :-)
[16:38] <pleia2> nlsthzn: think you can take a few minutes to proof read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue232 ?
[16:38] <pleia2> (or anyone else :))
[16:39] <nlsthzn> pleia2, sure...
[16:59] <nlsthzn> I am very sleepy but the following doesn't scan right (at the end...)
[16:59] <nlsthzn> Jono Bacon presents the link to this report survey and kicks of discussions with the Technical Board and the Developer Membership Board where a discussion on findings from the survey can take place and some “next steps” can be started improvements in the issues highlighted
[17:01] <Pendulum> it's a run-on sentance
[17:01] <Pendulum> nlsthzn: are you in the wiki?
[17:02] <nlsthzn> Yup... just giving it a quick once over proof read... the last bit doesn't work... I am cross-eyes at the moment... been a long hot day in the desert
[17:03] <Pendulum> nlsthzn: try this
[17:04] <akgraner> of should be off
[17:04] <akgraner> and the sentence can become two instead on one
[17:04] <Pendulum> Jono Bacon presents the link to his report survery to kick off dicussions with the Technical Board and Developmer Membership Board. These discussions will be used to decide how to start improving the issues highlighted.
[17:04] <akgraner> Pendulum, nods
[17:04] <akgraner> anyone in the wiki?
[17:05] <akgraner> off not I'll drop that in there
[17:05] <Pendulum> akgraner: nlsthzn is (which is why I didn't just fix that)
[17:05] <akgraner> ok
[17:06] <nlsthzn> OK... I will change it to that then (or try at least :p)
[17:06] <akgraner> nlsthzn, thanks
[17:07] <nlsthzn> done
[17:10] <nlsthzn> had one more minor tweak... anything else will have to be caught by someone else... I am running on empty :p
[18:48] <akgraner> Daviey, can you drop meetingology into #ubuntu-leadership
[18:48] <pleia2> akgraner: I mentioned this in -us-ca, but I think it's a waste of resources if we don't actually intend to have meetings there
[18:48] <pleia2> we want the regular log bot, not meetingology
[18:49] <akgraner> well  - sometimes we have to fall back to the channel
[18:49] <akgraner> depending on -meeting schedules and stuff
[18:49] <akgraner> just want to be prepared
[18:49] <pleia2> shouldn't we just plan our meetings not to conflict?
[18:49] <akgraner> if possible
[18:49] <pleia2> I think it's vital that these meetings in particular are held in the main meeting channel
[18:49] <akgraner> but sometimes it doesn
[18:50] <akgraner> always work :-(
[18:50] <akgraner> I think you are right
[18:50] <pleia2> I think we shouldn't have a meeting if it can't take place in the main channel
[18:50] <akgraner> but I just wanted to be prepared as we work the kinks out
[18:50] <pleia2> leadership impacts every single team, we need to have everyone aware of what we discuss
[18:50] <akgraner> I know I agree
[18:51] <akgraner> I don't *want* to hold the meetings in ubuntu-leadership I just wanted to be prepared if we ever had too
[18:51] <pleia2> I guess we just disagree
[18:52] <pleia2> (that's ok :))
[18:53] <akgraner> no we are agreeing
[18:54] <akgraner> I agree with you
[18:54] <akgraner> if we don't ever have to use then great
[18:54] <akgraner> it
[18:54] <akgraner> it's just there
[18:54] <pleia2> I am saying that there should never be a case in which we should ever use it, if there is a conflict we need to reschedule our meeting
[18:55] <akgraner> ok...I don't care really - other than I want it to be as public as possible
[18:55] <akgraner> and I just wanted us to be as prepared for anything as possible :-) that's all
[18:55] <akgraner> but I totally agree the meetings should be held in -meeting
[18:55] <pleia2> bots are a finite resource, meetingology can't join every single channel
[18:56] <pleia2> just seems like a waste since we should never use it
[18:56] <akgraner> ok then  - hey Daviey cancel that request
[18:56] <akgraner> but mootbot was everywhere
[18:56] <akgraner> or at least all the channels I was in
[18:56] <akgraner> :-)
[18:56] <pleia2> didn't you use mootbot-uk?
[18:57] <pleia2> that's a separate bot from moobot
[18:57] <akgraner> yep after I learned about it
[18:57] <akgraner> we stopped using mootbot and moved to mootbot-uk
[18:58] <akgraner> it's a non-issue to me - I really do agree with you :-)
[18:59] <pleia2> for most teams I'd agree that it's ok to have meetings in their project channel sometimes, but I really feel strongly against ever doing that with -leadership
[19:00] <akgraner> 100% agreement - I just wanted a contingency plan
[19:00] <akgraner> that's all
[19:00]  * pleia2 gives up
[19:00] <akgraner> no I get it...
[19:00] <pleia2> the contingency plan is "reschedule meeting"
[19:00] <akgraner> ok
[19:01] <akgraner> I don't care as long as this gets off the ground :-)  that's all
[19:03] <akgraner> pleia2, which hat are you commenting from - CC or other....I agree and I'll go with that but other teams are using their channel b/c they found themselves rescheduling all the time.  I just don't want that to happen to this and then there is no good time for a meeting etc...
[19:04] <pleia2> other
[19:04] <pleia2> I probably won't participate in leadership meetings which aren't public, it feels wrong to me
[19:04] <akgraner> no I agree - everything will be public
[19:04] <akgraner> the channel is public
[19:04] <pleia2> yeah, but only key team members are there
[19:04] <akgraner> the mailing list and LP is public
[19:04] <akgraner> right now it's new we are getting it off the ground
[19:05] <pleia2> it doesn't get exposure from the rest of the community were people can peek in, that makes me very uncomfortable
[19:05] <akgraner> gotcha
[19:05] <akgraner> totally understand
[19:05] <akgraner> we want this to be a public as possible
[19:05] <pleia2> to me it would be like the CC taking their meetings to their own channel
[19:05] <pleia2> that should never happen (well, the CC doesn't *have* a channel either :))
[19:05] <akgraner> and when all the resources are in place there will be a very public, widespread invite
[19:06] <akgraner> but we need all the resources there before we go inviting people to join something that doesn't exsist
[19:06] <akgraner> pleia2, I agree with you...
[19:07] <akgraner> the channel was invite only because we were waiting for a logbot
[20:53] <akgraner> pleia2, want me to publish or do you want to?
[20:53] <pleia2> akgraner: I'll take a turn this week :)
[20:54] <pleia2> make sure I haven't forgotten anything
[20:54] <akgraner> I have about 45 mins before I need to go celebrate Becca's 16th b-day
[20:54] <akgraner> pleia2, great!
[20:54] <akgraner> thank you!
[20:54] <pleia2> I'll do it at 00:00 UTC (am working until then)
[20:54] <akgraner> gotcha
[20:54] <akgraner> :-)
[20:54] <pleia2> have fun at the birthday party, woo sweet 16!
[20:55] <akgraner> yeah she is excited- I just feel old now....:-)
[20:58] <pleia2> hehe
[23:59] <pleia2> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue232