[00:05] nice. who all showed up pleia2 [01:27] might be a couple minutea late for mweting, on way home drom solano stroll npw :) [02:02] meeting time? [02:03] I hope it starts soon. I woke up at 5 AM for this :-) [02:03] :) [02:03] #startmeeting [02:03] who all is here? [02:03] i'm here! [02:04] o/ [02:05] I'm partially here, might go for a walk with the pregnent wife soon-ish [02:05] :) [02:05] ok, we don't actually have anything on the agenda [02:06] * pleia2 waits for wiki to load [02:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11September11 empty agenda :) [02:06] but we have had some events lately [02:06] DWonderly: you about? [02:07] philipballew wrote a writeup about the san diego jam last weekend: https://philipballew.wordpress.com/2011/09/04/ubuntu-global-jam-san-diego-wrap-up/ [02:07] cool! add it to a team report! :) [02:08] yep [02:08] :) [02:08] * greg-g didn't do that as they happened for Michigan, and had a big backlog of reports to do with reapproval next week [02:08] we've done them monthly for the past couple of years [02:08] is there a designated time for comments/questions from random people (like me)? [02:09] and we add posts like this to the project page after the event so making team reports are easy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/OneiricGlobalJam [02:09] gua: since we have no agenda this meeting is pretty free-form, anyone can make comments/questions any time :) [02:10] ah alright [02:10] today up in berkeley we did the solano stroll, just plugged in my camera to get the pictures ;) [02:10] gave out over 100 CDs, lots of people at the booth all day, lots of fun, too much funnel cake [02:10] \o/ [02:10] that sounds good [02:10] pleia2: how many -us-ca people were there? [02:11] o/ [02:11] (here, not there) [02:12] is here! [02:13] greg-g: jyo, jdeslip at least, the rest were mostly berkeleylug [02:14] cool! [02:14] did Ian make it? [02:14] yep :) [02:14] we're going to play 3ds at the next berkeleylug [02:15] hehe [02:15] cool [02:15] anyone have announcements, comments, questions, other things? [02:15] san francisco ubuntu hour on wednesday evening: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1209/detail/ [02:16] dang, I'll be out of town [02:16] a week from Thurs I am hosting a Global Jam in Kenya to jump start the wiki.ubuntu.com/KenyanTeam - virtual support would be most appreciated. Details to follow. [02:16] err, not Global Jam, Ubuntu Hour [02:16] one step at a time [02:16] Is anyone taking part in the Stanford ai-class, ml-class or db-class and has heard of Bay Area meetup plans for study groups or would be interested in attending study groups? [02:17] I'd be interested in a study group for ai or ml ... haven't heard of any plans for one. [02:17] grantbow: nice. [02:17] I had applied for that online AI class, really looking forward it. [02:18] online? excellent [02:18] grantbow: online and free, offered by stanford. ai-class.com [02:18] I've heard second-hand stuff about a study group at Hacker Dojo, but if there's demand i'd prefer to have one a bit closer to the East Bay (where I am). I was thinking the places where the DV LUG people meet might be good, or Noisebridge in SF could also work. [02:18] tens of thousands of students taking it worldwide :) [02:19] my boss wants me to take the db class, but I can't imagine when I'd have time :\ [02:19] I'm closer to Hacker Dojo than either of those places, myself. [02:19] grantbow: http://www.ai-class.com/ http://www.ml-class.com/ http://www.db-class.com/ [02:20] gua: dvlug.org and noisebridge.net are both weekly, sounds good [02:20] makushimu: Would you be interested in attending a study group? [02:20] Oh, I didn't know about db and ml classes, thank you for sharing! [02:20] IS THERE A LIST OF UBUNTU USERS [02:20] grantbow: Is there somethng weekly related to AI at Noisebridge? [02:20] locodir-user: no [02:20] IN CALIFORNIA [02:20] locodir-user: please turn off your caps lock :) [02:21] gua: I would love to try [02:21] gua: not sure about AI [02:21] ok thank youy [02:21] gua: at noisebridge [02:21] A list of all Ubuntu users in California would be a very very long list. :) [02:21] grantbow: Ah, well related to any of the classes really then? [02:21] I'd say the wednesday linux night class at noisebridge from 6-8 would be happy to have the study group people join them [02:21] everyone pretty much does their own thing there anyway [02:21] makushimu: alright. fyi there are subreddits for each class too. http://www.reddit.com/r/aiclass http://www.reddit.com/r/mlclass http://www.reddit.com/r/dbclass [02:22] s/class/thing [02:22] :) [02:22] pleia2: +1 [02:22] gua: Most excellent, thank you! [02:22] I was thinking of attending a few local meeting things like DV LUG and bringing up the study group topic. [02:22] i see [02:22] pleia2: that's a good idea to bring it up then [02:22] yeah :) [02:22] well im very new to this ubuntu its alot of work [02:23] ok, anything else? [02:24] Any ideas for groups besides DV LUG and the various Noisebridge groups that might be interested in those classes? [02:24] my solano stroll pictures are now up (I'll add the good ones to the california flickr too): http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/sets/72157627650086116/ [02:24] gua: you might mention it to the sf-lug.org folks [02:25] the only reason i got into this system and im glad i have is that somoene in ontario california that is really good with the system has been hacking me for 2 years [02:25] pleia2: Ah, good idea. [02:25] and im still in luimbo [02:26] limbo [02:26] ok, I think we can wrap up the meeting [02:26] locodir-user: If you have specific questions, you might want to wait 'til the meeting is over, then ask -- people are usually happy to help. [02:27] anything else before we finish? :) [02:27] wow great yes i need help lol [02:27] thanks for coming gua, nice to see new faces! [02:27] That was a fast meeting. [02:27] no agenda will do that [02:27] good meeting though gua :) [02:27] pleia2: Sure! I figured people here would be into AI and things like that. [02:27] #endmeeting [02:28] locodir-user: what area are you in? we've got folks all over the state and could probably point you to some local help [02:28] philipballew: Cheers :) [02:28] ontario california [02:28] Walnut Creek area here. Haven't had to make it out to a DV LUG meeting but a friend of mine (Dan) has gone to some I think. [02:28] San Diego! [02:28] and beleive me ive been hacked good [02:29] had the time* [02:29] locodir-user, you from so cal as well I see? [02:29] yes i am [02:30] Sorry I'm late [02:30] gua: Iand and I know Dan [02:30] Is it over yet? [02:30] gua: Ian and I know Dan [02:30] i think DWonderly [02:30] DWonderly just finished, sorry [02:30] not sure, but i get the feeling [02:30] locodir-user: not sure how far you're willing to drive, but a little bit south of you nhaines does ubuntu hours in lake forest, details here: http://nhaines.livejournal.com/62455.html [02:30] pleia2: did you talk about elections at all? === DWonderly is now known as DarkwingDuck [02:30] DWonderly: no, there was nothing on the agenda [02:30] philipballew end was at #endmeeting [02:31] pleia2, dave does the Pasadena [02:31] pleia2: I'll do the email thing. [02:31] * philipballew should pay more attention :) [02:31] philipballew: ah, right :) [02:32] grantbow: I'm pretty sure Dan mentioned you before. Good to know. [02:32] I am so happy to be back on irssi again. [02:33] irssi rocks! [02:33] Aye, Now that my server is actually working... [02:34] I can use it. Just in time for UDS too. [02:34] If X-Chat didn't treat me so well I might be on Irssi already. But it does so totally switching hasn't happened. [02:35] congrats on the server DarkwingDuck I know that took some time [02:35] gua: tmux or screen + irssi = better than xchat if you have a server somewhere [02:37] grantbow: Yeah, a persistent session alone would be pretty nice. I'm familiar with screen already at least. [02:38] I'm glad to hear Solano Stroll went well [03:02] So what are we going to do with the Maverick Meerkat stickers? [04:27] hey! pleia2 would it make anybody un-easy if i sat in on the ubuntu women classroom meeting on Saturday? Im trying to learn to become a linux sysadmin sometime [04:30] * philipballew is contacting her with any questions... haha [05:15] nhaines: ping [07:11] philipballew: You awake :) [07:25] bkerensa, yeah! [07:25] are you? [07:25] can I pm? [07:25] yes [15:55] Ohio, not much to do here [15:55] OLF is for sure worth the trip tho [15:56] bkerensa: was subject of discussion [15:57] He needs to go to the Ohio Ubuntu channel, maybe offer up a few ideas [16:00] DarkwingDuck: pong === rbarot__ is now known as rbarot_ [16:55] MarkDude: What are you on about? :P The buckeyes dont need me [16:55] MarkDude: How was your trip though? [16:57] bkerensa: still good. I am still here [16:57] I thought there was stuff to do on Monday [16:57] * MarkDude leaves tomorrow [16:57] =o [16:57] * bkerensa has to go setup the Ubuntu Booth at PuppetConf on Thursday [16:58] Well that would be one of many reasons other local teams could LEARN from you [17:00] :) I learned everything I know from you MarkDude [17:00] :D [17:06] DarkwingDuck, do we have an Ubuntu-leadership channel yet? or Mailing list [17:06] was going to blog about it today [17:09] LOL :) someone at U.S. Customs seriously does not like Ubuntu.... Our conf kit got stuck on a customs hold and today our CD's arrived and it had a customs declaration plus a big green sticker that said "OK" and was signed by a customs supervisor [17:09] :D [17:09] odd [17:11] bkerensa: make sure the value of cds is at least one penny [17:11] or 5 cents [17:11] makes customes easier [17:13] bkerensa: FB app just named you as my #2 friend. I question their algorithm [17:14] Nothing against you- I thinkk maybe you are in my top 20 [17:14] * bkerensa was thinking top 25 [17:14] :D [17:15] akgraner: What is Ubuntu-Leadership ? [17:16] lol [17:17] * MarkDude avoidsd the like 20+ jokes I could make about Ubuntu leadership [17:17] akk: is leader [17:17] tab fai; [17:17] akgraner: is leader [17:17] lies, akk is! [17:18] No akk is leader that chooses not to lead [17:18] MarkDude: You know AWS offers a free EC2? You could setup ZNC so you can idle 24/7/365 :) [17:18] akgraner: tried it and said no thank you [17:18] I don't do well as a leader, except (I hope sometimes) by example. [17:20] I'll leave it to folks like akgraner and pleia2 who are better at it. [17:21] oh snap akk thanks for reminding me... I got buy orange frosting this weekend so my fiancee can make Ubuntu pastries [17:21] :S [17:21] My mom used to be a professional cake decorator. [17:21] * akgraner catches up [17:22] I literally did not realize you could *buy* colored frosting until I was like 25. [17:22] Also apparently the red coloring doesn't taste terrible anymore. :) [17:22] Leading by pastries, best kind of leadership! [17:22] the pastry hat @ irc ops get seems relevant [17:23] haha [17:23] rww: especially for pleia2. Or is it @pleia2@ ? [17:23] nhaines: +1 [17:23] haha [17:23] bkerensa, back during UDS in Dallas like 4 cycles ago I proposed and Ubuntu LoCo leadership Handbook - however life being what it is and all - I has just sat there - DarkwingDuck decided to kickstart it once again - the goal is to help people understand what being a leader means and to give the community tools to become new, better, more effective and efficient leadership [17:24] although we think of ourselves as janitors more than leaders :P [17:24] (irc ops, that is) [17:24] it's an open team...MarkDude if you or anyone wants to join you can [17:24] we approve anyone asking to join [17:25] and want all the help we can get [17:25] =o [17:25] I'll be blogging about it soon - DarkwingDuck blogged a little about it last week [17:25] akgraner: You dont say? LOL I was just talking to pleia2 about making a ebook cover resources and tools for LoCo's [17:25] :D [17:26] * akgraner doesn't have the link to his blog handy but if you look on planet Ubuntu he should have his name there so you can get a link to it [17:26] bkerensa, :-) great join the team and in the meantime I'll share the doc with you and anyone else [17:26] kk [17:27] akgraner: is the channel invite only [17:27] bkerensa, https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfNzhmNnNmM2RjdA&hl=en_US here is the googledoc link [17:27] bkerensa, the channel shouldn't be but I'm not setting it up DarkwingDuck is [17:27] http://www.wonderly.com/2011/09/ubuntu-leadership-team/ [17:27] rww thanks [17:28] bkerensa: yes, it's currently +i [17:29] hmm I wasn't aware of that channel [17:29] (let me know if y'all need help setting it up, btw) [17:30] which was why I was asking - hopefully DarkwingDuck can let me (and you all) know about it sometime today [17:30] rww thanks join the LP team and then kick DarkwingDuck about it :-) [17:30] akgraner: oh, I'm not actually interested in doing (more) leadershippy things, just able to poke at channel modes if you'd like :P [17:31] bkerensa, ebook is a goal but first we need to get the information included in it ironed out...which is why I set up the googledoc on it...but it still needs things added to it and formated etc... [17:31] rww :-P [17:31] ok thanks [17:32] I'll kick DarkwingDuck anyway, though! [17:32] * rww kicks DarkwingDuck [17:32] akgraner: I can help :D [17:32] bkerensa, great - join the LP team - as soon as requests come in and I see them I approve them [17:33] you have the link to the google doc and there is the wiki page that DarkwingDuck set up [17:34] I'm going to blog once a week on the principles of leadership and skills and styles of leadership used for leading volunteer organizations [17:34] if you make changes on the googledoc just use a different color font [17:35] until we can get this into bzr and get some revision control implemented [17:35] (now there is something I never thought I would say) [17:39] I just love all the loco teams :-) this rocks! Thanks Y'all! pleia2 - I wanna move to CA and Vancouver just to hang out with the loco teams...oh and FL I can't forget them either...Oh and the UK...:-) [17:39] bkerensa: link? [17:40] nhaines: that makes sense - ypou have an artisitic sensibility [17:40] I figure you can cook up a storm [17:41] You figure we can do a geeknic for scale [17:41] ? [17:41] We need to get akgraner obsessed with gnupg keys and send her around the planet to single-handedly strengthen the web of trust through LoCos :P [17:41] rww, don't temp me [17:41] MarkDude: Link for what? [17:41] MarkDude: If I win the AOL About.me contest will you go to NYC with me? :) http://t.co/Am2PnZY [17:42] MarkDude: http://aws.amazon.com/free/ <-- Free Cloud Server.... You can pop your Fedora on there and run a irc bouncer :D [17:45] or just use irccloud or something :P [17:45] rww: Thats a pretty cool service =o [17:46] bkerensa: sind me link afte I get back from waffle house [17:46] But yes [17:47] I can get NY trip paid by Dadddy Shadowman [17:47] brb [18:05] In regards to Geeknic at SCaLE, the parts of LA I know aren't amenable to picnics. [18:06] Also, Ubucon (plus any potential speaking engagements for SCaLE proper) will probably consume all of my resources as in years past. [18:07] * bkerensa feels nervous about giving sudo to his main box to someone but he gave sudo acct to Cloudflare because they wanna let me beta test their new Plesk plugin :D [18:09] hope you're not doing anything important on it :P [18:09] Not the only test that begins. :) [18:10] rww: I have backups being set to run every hour until they are done doing there thing [18:10] :D [18:33] Why am I getting kicked? [18:33] Why indeed! [18:33] * DarkwingDuck backreads [18:33] DarkwingDuck: start with "pong" from me. :) [18:34] nhaines: I think it was a question re Inkscape.... I answered it last night with google [18:34] \o/ [18:35] akgraner: today I should have it finished [18:36] * bkerensa pings DarkwingDuck and runs [18:37] Aye bkerensa? [18:37] * bkerensa was just horsing about [18:38] hehehe [18:38] * DarkwingDuck sighs [18:38] 3 days for docs [18:38] DarkwingDuck, sweet - I just wanted to blog some more about it - but wanted the resources in place before I did [18:38] thank you... [18:41] akgraner: I'm still waiting for a logging bot from the IRC gods... [18:42] so ubuntu-leadership is ours then right [18:43] also ask Daviey to drop meetingology in there as well please [18:43] so we can use it for meetings and stuff [18:43] I'd like to hold the ubuntu-leadership meetings in -meeting though [18:43] akgraner: Aye, it's registered and you have access [18:43] if at all possible [18:44] it's +i right now [18:44] I wanted to keep it that was till the bot pops in. [18:44] Nope for some reason I don't have access :-( [18:44] can you fix that for me [18:46] akgraner: join #ubuntu-leadership [18:46] I think you want a log bot, not meetingology [18:46] Yes, I'm waiting for log bot [18:47] it may take a while [18:47] let us know once the channel is open so the rest of us can join :) [18:47] DarkwingDuck: how is the bot supposed to pop in if the channel's +i :P [18:48] * rww would probably -i+m it, if you need people to not talk until the logbot gets in there [18:49] rww: I was following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels [18:50] DarkwingDuck: mind if I join it a sec? i have a thought [18:50] Aye [18:50] Go for it. [18:51] didn't think so. One option would be +iI $a:ubuntulog, so the bot can still get in there, if you really want it +i until Canonical gets around to it [18:51] No, I think we'll wait. [18:51] k [18:52] I autolog everything with irssi always on so, I'm always logging [18:56] DarkwingDuck: The irc gods of Canonical idle in our channel sometimes [18:56] DarkwingDuck: Cinerama in #ubuntu-us-or is the person from Canonical who handles Ubuntulog ;) [18:56] bkerensa: thanks! [19:02] DarkwingDuck, akgraner, I might also suggest emailing the CC once you get this all announced with a channel and all [19:02] I'm sure some of my fellow CC members would be interested in participating and helping [19:03] pleia2: Thanks! I was planning on letting people know about it too. :) [19:04] pleia2, we will :-) [19:04] for sure [19:32] pleia2: are CDs ordered seperate from the conf packs? [19:34] DarkwingDuck: if you need CDs they need to be specifically added to the conference pack request [19:35] DarkwingDuck: the timing is unfortunate though, the team should get the oneiric CDs around that time but not sure if they'll arrive fast enough [19:36] approved teams should use CDs for events like this (we used them for the picnic, and solano stroll, and scale...) [19:37] Bugger... Okay, I'll toss a request in with shipit [19:37] the team contact has to and they haven't opened up oneiric for requests yet [19:37] I'll do it as soon as we can [19:37] (always do :)) [19:38] Okay, I'll figure something out for the event... I don't think we will get Oneiric CDs in time. [19:39] does ubuntu give people the right to make those official cd's themselves or are the cd art copyrighted? [19:40] We can do pressed CDs ourselves. [19:40] I'm waiting for a callback on the booth. Unsure if we will have power or not. [19:41] it's expensive though, people at all our events are happy enough with burned CDs in our california team sleeves [19:41] * DarkwingDuck nods [19:41] * philipballew begins to hunt down large solar panel [19:41] The biggest issue is if we can burn on demand at the event. [19:42] http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Graphics/Kubuntu/3d_kubuntu_gears.png [19:42] i can bring my spare laptop and main one to be a dedicated burner. [19:43] I have my laptop as well. [19:43] we should just have iso's of every possible version they want. [19:44] xubuntu ubuntu kubuntu edubuntu and all the others [19:44] for the more niche ones, can always write to a USB stick if they have one [19:44] with dd for oneiric <3 [19:45] who doesnt carry a usb flash drive with them at all times. I know I do [19:45] I have one of my keychain. XD [19:45] s/of/on [19:46] we should set up a email list sign up thing at the booth for our ca email list [19:46] Aye, [19:47] I have 2 Ubuntu books. 2 Linux in a nutshell and 2 Ubuntu for non-geeks books [19:47] a couple t-shirts and hats [19:47] lanyards stickers and buttons [19:48] can we just go old fashioned with pen and paper for a email sign up sheet or would we be able to get it done on a computer? [19:48] Either or. I can put my netboot to use for that. [19:48] *netbook [19:48] if you can get online, just leaving the subscription page up so people can do it themselves would be good [19:48] gets around horrible handwriting [19:49] yup [19:49] I agree [19:49] pleia2, those Linux brochures you had at the solono stroll. what did they say? [19:50] philipballew: they were berkeleylug brochures: http://www.berkeleylug.com/?page_id=2 [19:50] we also had the little ubuntu california info sheets that are up on launchpad [19:51] the brochures are berkeleylug specific (their contact details), but the license is "Feel free to use and modify these files for any purpose and in any way." so you can add your own info, the source files are on that page too [19:52] we worked on them at a global jam last year, some of the screenshots need to be updated [19:52] and jdeslip just had them printed by vistaprint [19:53] I might do something like that here. maybe just on regular paper though if its cheaper [19:54] have you seen any sponsors yet DarkwingDuck [19:56] or will we need to sneak out way onto the venue? [19:59] I might be sneaking into toorcon next month. but you didnt hear that... [20:02] I'm still in talks... :/ [20:04] sounds good. who puts on this event actually? [20:17] pleia2, email sent to all the councils and boards with invitation to join - and I cc'd jono as well so no one was left in the dark...I'll be blogging as soon as we get the log bot in the channel [20:17] all await moderation :-) [20:20] akgraner: I let your membership boards list email through :) [20:21] thanks :-) [20:21] I think it sums up where we are now .... [20:22] and invites the leadership councils to be part of it - them we'll start inviting the whole community :-) [20:22] I'm excited [20:22] yeah, me too [20:29] This is going to be really cool. [20:31] serious potential [21:21] Fianlly finished Star Trek Enterprise [21:21] I <3 hulu [21:22] rather netflix [23:44] DarkwingDuck: Yep, my son and I are going through the 200+ episodes of StarGate SG1 on Netflix through TiVo, and I'm catching up on various series on Netflix through my iPad and Android phone. [23:52] I have it on my PS3