[00:19] <cyberanger> wrst: ping
[00:20] <cyberanger> orangeninja: not much, just chilling
[00:20]  * cyberanger puts away the liquid nitrogen
[01:28] <cyberanger> wrst: got a question or two for you
[01:30] <wrst> hey cyberanger
[01:33] <cyberanger> wrst: what do you use with openlp, arch, ubuntu?
[01:42] <cyberanger> (seems I'm now being tasked to setup a system with goals that openlp should solve perfectly)
[01:42] <wrst> currently I am using a variety arch, ubuntu, win 7 fedora, etc to test on
[01:42] <wrst> cyberanger: its in QT so it works really well in kubuntu
[01:42] <wrst> depending on who your users are etc
[01:43] <wrst> if you use a straight ubuntu intall unity isn't something that works well due to how unity handles dual monitors
[01:43] <cyberanger> my users is a salvation army youth group, I'd be running it
[01:43] <cyberanger> and you know me, that kinda makes me consider trying with openbox first & foremost
[01:44] <wrst> ahh well if that's the case you should be good to go cyberanger, they have a ppa, which I'm sure you have looked at and also if you do /dev verses /release on the ppa you will get the latest code or you can get the code via checking out in launchpad or what not
[01:45] <cyberanger> I'm thinking arch over kubuntu (just seems kubuntu doesn't give kde any justice (even I respect kde, I just respect openbox more ;-))
[01:46] <cyberanger> anything I should be aware of, like a reason to chose dev over release for example
[01:46] <cyberanger> or a reason I should skip trying anything but kde (reason being tons of bugs, or something)
[01:47] <wrst> more up to date code and features and still stable, and if you go with arch cyberanger its in the AUR ther is a package openlp same as the /release ppa and then openlp-bzr that will pull in the latest code you just have to reinstall if you see updates you want
[01:47] <wrst> cyberanger: I run it in gnome-shell
[01:47] <cyberanger> (I've used similar software, but on windows, and not my setup, only used, not maintained)
[01:48] <wrst> well I can help with most things and what I can't they can over at #openlp
[01:48] <wrst> but its pretty simple setup to do
[01:48] <cyberanger> I figured so (contrary to my usual projects, which I go with overkill for)
[01:49] <cyberanger> so your actually using gnome-shell for it?
[01:50] <wrst> yes we had been using it every week right now we have win 7 and everyone hates it so going back to arch and gnome-shell
[01:50] <wrst> and these are die-hard windows users that are screaming for linux :)
[01:51] <cyberanger> lol, yeah, the other person involved respects my knowledge, but uses xp, says he's made ubuntu crash just as well
[01:52] <cyberanger> I'd love to know what crashed & why, but that's gonna make this a hard sell
[01:52] <cyberanger> (he's off when it comes to the youth group though
[01:52] <wrst> but really its really easy on arch as it is on ubuntu, also packages for fedora, pc-bsd, works with debian actually but not in a repo yet
[01:52] <cyberanger> so I'm getting it in there & see where it goes, he's willing to give it a try)
[01:52] <wrst> cool deal
[01:53] <cyberanger> wrst: ppa compatable with debian? or build from source?
[01:54] <wrst> its in python so if you have the depencies all you have to do is run the openlp.pyw file thats in the nightly build and you are good to go
[01:54] <cyberanger> (that's why I like openbox, vs gnome, it's nearly impossible to crash openbox to a lockup that compares to a BSoD, I've seen Gnome & KDE (and unity in worse, but dissimmilar ways) lockup really really bad, nothing but a hard reboot could do)
[01:55] <wrst> cyberanger: this isn't for debian but you can easily figure out the packages you need:http://wiki.openlp.org/Testing:Linux_Testing_Environment
[01:55] <cyberanger> maybe debian would work then
[01:55] <wrst> a debian install has most there are a few specific things that you would need for certain features but if they aren't by some chance in debians repos (highly unlikely) you can use easy_install
[01:55] <wrst> oh it works I have had it running on debian
[01:56] <wrst> cyberanger: brb in about 10-15
[01:57] <cyberanger> saw that link, just thought it'd be best to ask you for what's not written
[01:57] <cyberanger> I'm deadlined on phases here, no real time to debugg anything that could go wrong
[01:58] <cyberanger> I mean, it's more than enough time, but any unknown snag slowing things down is undiserable, be nice to not need to burn more time debugging
[01:59] <cyberanger> (nature of group projects, everybodys input takes time to sort the goals, configure it in, get them to like & use it, then so on)
[01:59] <cyberanger> ok wrst, I'll be here
[02:00]  * cyberanger hangs onto the modem ;-)
[02:10] <wrst> ok cyberanger back
[02:10] <wrst> one of the goals of openlp is to get into the debian repos I think that is a requirement before getting into ubuntu correct?
[02:13] <wrst> oh cyberanger just read your above messages we can get it up and running for you in just a little bit I think
[02:13] <cyberanger> oh, I think I can get it running, yeah
[02:14] <wrst> yeah its easy peasy, if I can do it i know you can :)
[02:14] <cyberanger> just choosing debian, or choosing openbox, so on
[02:14] <wrst> yeah I've had it running on mageia, mandriva too
[02:14] <cyberanger> wanted clarity after seeing qt & not in any repo (it's in a ppa & arch's user repo
[02:15] <cyberanger> and yeah, nearly always debian -> ubuntu repo)
[02:15] <wrst> its in fedora repos, but since its still not out of beta i think that's a little bit of why not in a ubuntu repo now
[02:15] <wrst> i'm a little, or a lot fuzzy on packaging
[12:55] <wrst> cyberanger: just checked with the OpenLP devs, they think the .deb might work with Debian, I suspect if you are running testing it should work
[16:50] <pace_t_zulu> that took long enough
[16:50] <pace_t_zulu> jeez
[16:50] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys
[16:52] <Unit193> Howdy, howdy
[16:55] <pace_t_zulu> hey Unit193
[16:55] <pace_t_zulu> something went down with my quassel-core
[16:55] <pace_t_zulu> a package update fixed it
[16:56] <Unit193> Ah. screen (not byobu) and irssi still working for me ;)
[17:00] <wrst> ugh pace_t_zulu :\
[17:01] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: did you have the same thing?
[17:01] <wrst> no pace_t_zulu no issues
[17:01] <pace_t_zulu> quassel-core was not connecting for me ... didn't have enough time to get to the bottom of it
[17:01] <wrst> but there was something that happened to some on quassel
[17:01] <pace_t_zulu> but a quassel-core update came and fixed it without reboot
[17:01] <wrst> press f7 go to ignore list and add a ctcp ignore rule of *
[17:02] <wrst> i did that as I heard of some folks that were having issues
[17:02] <pace_t_zulu> f7?
[17:02] <wrst> i think the entire #quassel set of users got their cores messed up
[17:03] <wrst> yeah pace_t_zulu or Settings --> Configure Quassel
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> ok
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> f7 worked
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> wouldn't sure it would translate to OS X
[17:03] <wrst> ahh yeah forgot that
[17:04] <wrst> Unit193: some of us like to use a mouse on occasion :)
[17:10] <Unit193> wrst: Couldn't resist :D  I do have a mouse sitting right next to me though, but it might just be hiding from the mouse traps ;)
[17:11] <wrst> ha ha
[18:31] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys
[18:31] <pace_t_zulu> any suggestions as to how to get a fresh version of Git on a 8.04 server deployment?
[18:37] <Unit193> Well, the smart aleck in me says to answer "Update it to 11.04!", but that's not the answer you want
[18:45] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=701127 not for sure how up to date that is
[18:45] <wrst> oh points to this ppa: https://edge.launchpad.net/~smartlounge/+archive/ppa
[19:10] <pace_t_zulu> wrst, this is what i'm going with http://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ppa
[19:10] <pace_t_zulu> that's the most elegant
[19:10] <pace_t_zulu> would be more elegant on a 9.10+ version of Ubuntu
[19:11] <wrst> cool :)
[19:12] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: do have to ask i'm guessing lots of reasons why you wouldn't upgrade to 10.04?
[19:25] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: not my server to admin
[19:25] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: trying to tread lightly ;)
[19:26] <wrst> ahh I understand pace_t_zulu
[19:26] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i consider myself lucky they gave me the keys to an ubuntu server ;)
[19:26] <wrst> ha ha yes cool