[05:11] morning superfly and others [05:11] morning Kilos [06:03] môre maiatoday [06:03] hiya maiatoday [06:07] hi Kilos [06:07] maiatoday: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell maiatoday thank you very much" 3 days, 10 hours, 10 minutes and 46 seconds ago [06:09] hi bmg505 [06:13] lo [06:13] adsl is sucky again [06:13] o/ mornings oom Kilos, superfly, maiatoday, bmg505 [06:13] eish [06:13] morning nuvolari [06:13] lo nuvolari [06:14] my voda connection is flying [06:14] bbl customer on phone with wek [06:14] k bmg505 [06:36] hey superfly is the grass showing yet? [06:37] no, not yet [06:37] still waiting :-) [06:37] what seed did you use? [06:38] those glowmail packets? [06:38] Kilos: no, it's from Stark Ayres, it's called Play Mix [06:38] it's supposed to be for grass that your kids are going to play on [06:39] ah. oh well then it will just take patience then [06:43] yep [06:46] hi nlsthzn [06:47] Alo Uncle Kilos [06:48] Maaz, weather in cape town south africa [06:48] Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me [06:49] Maaz, weather in durban south africa [06:49] Kilos: In La Mercy, South Africa at 8:00 AM SAST on September 12, 2011: 21°C; Humidity: 78%; Wind: SSW at 13 km/h; Conditions: Mostly Cloudy; Sunrise/set: 5:58 AM SAST/5:46 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 5:59 PM SAST/5:36 AM SAST [06:50] hmmm [06:50] he seems to have lost connection to some sa weather sites [06:50] stupid bot [07:09] Maaz: weather in Irene, South Africa [07:09] Superhuman: That didn't go down very well. Burp. [07:09] Maaz: weather in Pretoria, South Africa [07:09] Superhuman: That didn't seem to agree with me [07:09] morning [07:09] awe Squirm [07:15] lol [07:15] [09:18:19] GeekChick: Weather for Irene, South Africa [07:15] [09:18:20] Superhuman: In Pretoria Irene, South Africa at 8:00 AM SAST on September 12, 2011: 17°C; Humidity: 30%; Wind: NE at 15 km/h; Conditions: ; Clouds:; Sunrise/set: 6:08 AM SAST/5:59 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 6:10 PM SAST/5:47 AM SAST [07:16] hi Superhuman [07:16] Hey Kilos [07:16] hi Squirm [07:34] morning all [07:34] hiya magespawn [07:46] kilos i think you could replace Maaz. [07:51] lol [07:51] cocooncrash, will fix him when he has a chance i hope [07:52] did not realize he was broken. [07:52] its only with some of the sa weather stations [07:53] everything else seems fine [07:53] would be much worse if he forgot how to make coffee [08:16] anybody else having problems with libreoffice? [08:18] hmm libreoffice has given me hassles [08:19] I tend to use google docs as far as I can. the printing of images especially weird [08:20] mine keeps on closing randomly. [08:26] * nlsthzn can't recall having issues with libreoffice... but been a while since I used it... [08:37] i'll see what google says. [08:39] Is the ubuntu-za.org/planet feed also going to start popping up on loco.ubuntu.com? [09:12] magespawn, maiatoday: never had any issues [10:11] marcog? [10:13] nlsthzn: we could put the ubuntu-za feed there, but maybe we should put the main screen stories there rather as our blog feed duplicates the planet ubuntu feed someplaces and all the posts aren't always ubuntu related [10:14] oops I missed him [10:40] ye, me not having issues with LO either [10:40] behaving pretty well actually [11:02] maiatoday: here now [11:02] bloody traffic [11:04] i want to propose to my sons primary school to set a ubuntu/pc club in their pc lab. any ideas? [11:04] with workshops to teach open source and other tech topics. [11:30] marcog: I thought PDB files were ascii? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pymol/+bug/835896 [11:33] tumbleweed: should be, see http://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/format33/sect1.html#Basic [11:34] marcog: thanks [11:35] tumbleweed: i'd ask for the pdb file that causes the problem, i doubt it's a curated one as i've processed all of them without hassle [11:38] later all [13:28] * superfly is not sure if he's supposed to take "tim@cybersmart" seriously [14:07] lol. does it work? [14:14] ah [14:52] hi all [14:52] lo magespawn [14:59] hmm, how do i force search on "-" in google? [15:00] eg. "api-" "impl-" [15:02] you don't [15:05] Vhata: it would be nice if we could [15:07] google doesn't match like that [15:07] searching for 'impl' will include "impl-" matches [15:08] people aren't very clever, and google needs to give the best results [15:08] so it has to take into account stupid searchers *and* stupid people who write the stuff that is being searched [15:16] more fundamentally, google just doesn't index punctuation [15:18] I am on my way out marcog but I was wondering where the banner and table cloth was. Maybe SULUG can use it for the software freedom day unless you guys are using it. Leave a note under maaz's big letter stone and I'll catch it later tonight. [15:20] home time later all [15:20] Maaz: tell maiatoday they're by tumbleweed's desk at uct. we haven't used them since o-week at the beginning of the year, so i'm sure you can take them. [15:20] marcog: Got it, I'll tell maiatoday on freenode [16:29] can someone check this please. i dont know why my pc nearly dies when i try go to this pastebin [16:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/687731/ [16:29] its about a boot repair [16:29] um [16:30] report [16:31] and who has an idea why slexy works kiff here but our pastebins wanna kill this pc [16:39] hmm, no clear reason oom Kilos [16:39] can you read that paste bin story [16:39] sorry nuvolari [16:39] it is unreated [16:39] unrelated [16:40] it might be the javascript that tries to beautify the text [16:40] but I can't say for sure [16:40] its the auto report from the tool boot-repair [16:40] oh ok ty laddy [16:41] i cant even change workspaces when the browser is looking for that bin [16:41] :O [16:41] sho [16:41] its not a prob if i dont use it [16:41] what browser oom? [16:42] ff and epiphany [16:42] no worry nuvolari [16:42] its not serious [16:45] i was just interested to see what boot-repair actually does and reports on [16:45] now i go reboot and see if it crashed me [16:45] hehe [16:47] :O [16:47] I hope the oom's coming back! [16:50] yay it didnt kill me. it is supposed to be able to repair boot sectors on multiple drives at once [16:52] wb nlsthzn [16:55] Thanks Uncle Kilos ... seems I had a bit of an unstable connection there [16:55] yeah [16:56] Maaz, ubuntu-za meeting [16:56] Kilos: ubuntu-za meeting is on Wednesday 5 August at 10h00 SAST [16:56] hmm [16:57] have we had this months meeting [16:57] and that time is inna morning [17:00] lol [17:00] Maaz: are you ok? [17:00] nuvolari: Excuse me? [17:01] Maaz: you're pardoned [17:01] nuvolari: Excuse me? [17:01] :) [17:01] hehe [17:27] ... however I am also off to bed now... was a hard day in the desert sun for me... got to get my beauty sleep... night all [17:27] oom Kilos, I have exciting news! [17:28] night nlsthzn yes superfly [17:28] the grass is up [17:28] Kilos: yes it is! :-D [17:28] yay [17:29] im happy for you superfly [17:29] I heard it raining outside, so I wanted to see how hard, and then I shone a torch on my patch of grass, and behold, there it was! [17:29] its horrible to plant something and it doesnt grow [17:29] he's pathetically excited about this :P [17:29] hehe [17:29] evening mrs_fly [17:29] oh no...now he's bouncing [17:30] evening Oom Kilos [17:30] thats is what is nice about farming [17:30] you get pleasure out of watching crops grow [17:30] hee hee hee [17:30] Only with farming you actually get something productive and not just grass that the dog will tear up again :P [17:30] enjoy superfly [17:31] you get a little shock machine [17:31] um [17:31] Oh he is. The grass is now famous on all his social networks :P [17:31] i forget the name now [17:31] hehe [17:32] similar machine as for electric fences and you string the kinda rope around where you want to protect and after one shock the dogs stay away from wherever they see that rope/string [17:32] unfortunately we can't really justify keeping the dog off of the grass- we don't have a very big garden, and she and Zak need the run of it. The soil is so loose here (mostly sand) that the roots of the grass can't hold it together and the grass gets torn up easily [17:33] ah [17:33] we're hoping this grass will last longer than the cape royal grass we had originally though [17:33] im happy for him [17:33] there is another quite tough one [17:34] I'm happy about the grass too- it's just that I can't resist teasing superfly [17:34] similar to kikuyu [17:34] Kilos: buffalo? [17:34] ya you chicks are all the same [17:34] ride us poor guys at every opportunity [17:34] ya buffalo [17:34] and you guys still love us- gosh, what is wrong with you? ;-) [17:35] a mix of that and kikuyu is quite tough to remove [17:35] aw we got soft hearts [17:36] mrs_fly, did he let you listen to my baby sing? [17:37] I heard her sing the Mary Poppins songs a long time ago, but I didn't see the X-Factor show. She has an amazing voice though, I'm sure you must be proud! [17:37] listen to the xfactor audition [17:37] she has matured some [17:37] do you have a link, Oom Kilos? [17:37] yeah , very proud [17:38] oh my [17:38] somewhere [17:39] If you can find it, I'd love to see! [17:40] * Kilos needs help please. whats the youtube link [17:40] nuvolari, ?? [17:40] inetpro, ?? [17:41] yay [17:41] http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=dXP2GdqYCOM [17:41] found it on external [17:41] looks funny though [17:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLemlIDCl0 [17:42] there wa mrs_fly [17:43] Thanks! I'm letting it load while zak_attack watches some more Thomas the Tank Engine [17:43] lol [17:44] hope you enjoy as much as i did [17:45] Well, as her father I'm sure you get first dibs on liking it the most, but I know I'll enjoy it [17:46] im biased, thats why i asked for opinions that time already [17:46] one doesnt see faults in one kids [17:51] * nuvolari gets goosebumps and watery eyes every time [17:52] :P [17:52] must be the onions [17:52] *cough* [17:52] lol [17:54] bsolutely beautiful- I agree with nuvolari- gave me chills too! [17:54] *absolutely [17:54] apparently there were peeps that didnt like her singing on twitter and fb so who knows [17:54] There are always critics, even of the most famous, big voices [17:54] ty thats fodder for my heart [17:55] or ram for my cpu [17:59] hehe [18:05] superfly, i dunno if they say how to bind sandy soil here but i will keep thinking, there is someway to kinda make it tougher [18:05] http://www.grow-it-organically.com/gardening-in-sandy-soil.html [18:10] once the grass is up you can add topsoil thats got lotsa clay in [18:26] * inetpro happy to see superfly jumping up and down like a kid [18:26] well done superfly! [18:26] lol [18:27] wat nog bind sanderige grond inetpro [18:27] compos? [18:27] guten abend Kilos [18:27] abend mein her [18:27] Kilos: daai gras se wortels sal tog seker self mooi bind? [18:28] Kilos: actually, my soil is a little more loamy [18:28] as dit goed bemes en gewater word [18:28] it's not seasand [18:28] but it is quite dry and fine [18:28] ah then it will come right with kikuyu kinda grass [18:28] superfly: I'm sure it will be fine if you pamper it a bit [18:29] Kilos: I looked all over the box to see if they said what type of grass, but not a name was in sight [18:29] eish [18:29] need a sa gardening site [18:30] what is written on the packet [18:30] no larny name [18:30] nope [18:30] and if you ask start airs [18:30] * inetpro wonders why we have not heard more from the linuxfoundation [18:30] them guys [18:31] they gotta big job clean installing all servers inq [18:31] grr [18:31] oom Kilos, this is the box (8KB) http://www.skupics.co.za/gallery/MANUFACTURERS/S/STAY%20Starke%20Ayres/gallery_STAY271C.jpg [18:34] lol i dont see a starke ayres forum [18:35] grrr [18:35] wow, interesting array of images when searching for "Starke Ayres playmix lawn seed" [18:37] Muslim clerics on trial in indonesia, a moose, the karate kid, cup cakes, cabbages, US navy and indonesian nacy admirals, a helicopter, oranges, the MDC, some student hanging out at Kirstenbosch gardens... [18:37] pannar they are looks like we used lotsa pannar seeds [18:37] oh, and an F/A-18C [18:38] lol [18:38] i dont see any images [18:38] * inetpro lol [18:38] all blocked [18:38] superfly: it's the mix of the words [18:39] inetpro: I know... but I've never seen a more mixed set of images in my life [18:39] most likely if its made for kids and dogs play grounds there will be kikuyu and/or buffalo added to whatever else they use [18:41] lol did they playmix search and got a blank page [18:41] lets wait and see what it looks like in 3 weeks time [18:42] yeah, I'm excited :-D [18:42] hee hee [18:42] superfly: you should take the dog for walks outside [18:42] more dancing around [18:42] seems to be frustrated with such small space [18:43] yeah but you guys havent really got much time for any more hey [18:43] inetpro: we do [18:43] he must become a maplotter [18:44] hmm... [18:44] what you stay in one of those complexes superfly [18:44] Kilos: yes [18:45] 5m by 10m yard [18:45] whew [18:45] get tropical fish [18:45] lol [18:46] if they upset you, you can just flush them [18:46] Kilos: eish! [18:46] rofl [18:52] evening all [18:53] lo magespawn [18:54] hi kilos [18:54] we good become like the door and walls of this room [18:54] *could [18:54] lol [18:56] anyone else been around? [18:56] yeah the fly's gras is growing [18:56] and mrs fly chatted and inetpro and nuvolari [18:57] good morning magespawn [18:58] question-do peeps actually use empathy [18:59] morning? [19:00] inetpro i have a question about subnetting [19:01] magespawn: don't as to ask, just shoot the question [19:01] don't ask to ask* [19:01] lol [19:02] hmm... Kilos: did I scare him with that? [19:02] no [19:02] na [19:03] ahh, ok :-) [19:03] hes a banana boy [19:03] we dont get scared [19:03] i just have to type on my phones keyboard [19:03] magespawn: np [19:03] magespawn, inetpro is one of my main helpers [19:03] him and fly and nuvo [19:03] carried me for 2 years [19:04] with now and again the crash kid and tumbles [19:05] 192.168.1.0 mask is 255.255.255.0 so is a class C network with 254 possible hosts. is this correct? [19:05] now they all cant wait for kbmonkey to get settled [19:05] hehe [19:07] hee hee i found twitgin [19:10] magespawn: hmm... I don't think we talk about class C anymore but 254 is what you should get [19:10] what do we talk about then? [19:11] magespawn: is it important? [19:11] magespawn: see http://jodies.de/ipcalc?host=192.168.0.1&mask1=24&mask2= [19:11] nah i am just an info hog [19:11] will do [19:12] inetpro, help [19:12] lol [19:12] magespawn: Symmetria is the networking guru here [19:12] whats the pin at twitter web page [19:13] Kilos: help? [19:13] lol [19:13] i remember he gave us a routing tutorial once [19:13] knew that would get a reaction [19:13] Kilos: pin at twitter? [19:14] inetpro what do you do for work? [19:14] yeah i added twitterim in pidgin but before login in it says get the pin number from the webpage [19:14] ? [19:14] look like me might not exist here soon. [19:15] doesnt often kill us [19:16] inetpro, what are they talking about [19:16] my password or what [19:17] where do you see pin numbers on webpages [19:17] Kilos: check your browser, should open a page with a pin code [19:17] and if it doesn't then your pidgin has no browser configured [19:18] pin code to oauth the program to connect, i think [19:18] what happens when you click on a link in pidgin? [19:19] it doesnt open yet it pops up a tiny window saying get pin from webpage and i see epiphany already tried to go there but cant get in [19:19] magespawn: heh [19:19] Kilos: I already have fish, and 3 cats, and a dog, and a snake [19:20] Kilos: try setting your browser to firefox temporarily [19:20] lol just teasing superfly [19:20] Kilos: (cold water fish) [19:20] Kilos: and I have a large but empty fish tank for my tropical fish, one day [19:20] wow you dont play hey [19:21] Kilos: mrs_fly said I can't have any birds though [19:21] unless they're in an outside aiviary [19:22] *aviary [19:22] inetpro, after 2 retry epiphany went there to a authorize window and then gave the pin [19:22] pidgin rocks [19:22] I used to have fish when I was still a bachelor in a flat in Sunnyside [19:22] superfly, you dont have time for any more [19:23] inetpro as what is your job? [19:23] until a friend of a friend came to visit late at night one evening while I was already sleeping [19:23] they where both very drunk [19:23] and they poured beer into the fish tank [19:24] s/where/were/ [19:24] needless to say, them fish did not survive the ordeal [19:24] there we go [19:25] * inetpro is still here [19:25] eish [19:25] fish dont like beer [19:25] funny that. [19:25] Kilos: clearly not [19:26] magespawn: you also survived [19:26] yeah [19:26] just about. [19:26] that was short and sweet [19:26] wb highvoltage, bmg505, nuvolari [19:26] only 4 got killed [19:27] the beer thing is all about quantity. they gave the human equivalent of a swimming pool [19:28] dankie dankie [19:28] that was a fast upgrade [19:28] didn't even notice I was gone [19:28] ha [19:29] magespawn: I was not a happy chappy the next morning [19:29] drubin: wb [19:30] inetpro i can imagine. what fish were they? [19:30] w00t [19:30] night everyone [19:30] nag boetie [19:31] magespawn: I honestly can't even remember [19:31] nag oom [19:31] bye nuvolari [19:32] inetpro, you watching twitter [19:32] ? [19:32] night [19:32] night magespawn [19:32] sleep tight [19:33] Kilos: anyone see this message from twitgin? [19:33] yeah [19:33] no not me, to nuvolari [19:33] good night magespawn [19:33] :-) [19:33] lol [19:34] say what you mean. you guys type well so dont be lazy [19:34] i only need about 6 hours a night. [19:34] inetpro, whats this mean [19:34] (09:32:58 PM) error sending status [19:34] so if i go now i will be up at 4 [19:34] Kilos: it says "error sending status" [19:35] thats on pigin as a reply to me tweeting [19:35] whats the staus [19:35] you got the mesage [19:35] status [19:36] Kilos: ask Maaz to google it [19:38] whew [19:38] pidgin equivalent of the fail whale? [19:39]