[00:00] <ProphetZarquon> I'm no help with USB keys, never had any luck booting from them.
[00:00] <dr_willis> dorkmafia:  so you boot the usb.. and what does it do exactly
[00:00] <bazhang> dorkmafia, do it again, with unetbootin perhaps
[00:00] <dorkmafia> dr_willis: it says boot disk failure
[00:00] <dr_willis> dorkmafia:  that is a sign that the iso file was currupted. or  the tool failed to install  the iso to the flash correctly
[00:00] <mamece2> prophetzarquon can ubuntu 10 and 11 use the same swap partition_
[00:01] <ProphetZarquon> Try having Ubuntu 11.04 do the Swap partitioning in it's own safe mode... Just thinking out loud.
[00:01] <dr_willis> dorkmafia:  check the md5 of the iso file. and try one of the other tools at pendrivelinux to put it on flash
[00:02] <dr_willis> !md5
[00:02] <dorkmafia> i used hdiutil
[00:02] <mamece2> prophetzarquon so i should go to graphic mode in ubuntu 11 and then open gpart , and then?
[00:02] <ProphetZarquon> Mine always say that. I've tried numerous pendrive distros and they install but then aren't bootable despite seeming to have all necessary files on the drive.
[00:03] <rlmccormick> Hi all.  Is it possible to have the xubuntu desktop and ubuntu desktop installed at the same time?
[00:03] <ikonia> Zeelot: sure
[00:03] <ProphetZarquon> And then try assigning the lost partition as the Ubuntu swap file. It's one of the properties options if I recall.
[00:03] <corecode> hm, that uefi boot didn't work out
[00:03] <ikonia> oops
[00:03] <ikonia> rlmccormick: sure
[00:04] <mamece2> prophetzarquon one last question, can ubuntu 11 and 10 use the same swap partition?
[00:04] <rlmccormick> When I use syanptic and select the xubuntu packages it lists unbuntu desktop as an item that will be removed (after I hit the "Apply" button)
[00:04] <dorkmafia> what is md5sum command on a mac?
[00:04] <ikonia> rlmccormick: don't worry about that, it's just a meta package
[00:04] <ProphetZarquon> ikonia, any idea where to find Virtual Box error logs and dump files? I see no reference...
[00:04] <ikonia> dorkmafia: md5sum
[00:04] <ikonia> ProphetZarquon: it won't dump as you want
[00:04] <josephseraos> HI there. I'd like build my own web server. Who knows a great book to help me? I want create a web server with some services like apache, php, mysql or postgresql. I'd like run in own server but in secure.
[00:05] <rlmccormick> ty
[00:05] <ikonia> ProphetZarquon: there is a debug mode, but I can't find the info on it
[00:05] <dorkmafia> i don't have md5sum installed then?
[00:05] <ikonia> josephseraos: the ubuntu wiki has guides on how to install and configure ubuntu with apache/mysql/postgres/php etc
[00:05] <bazhang> !hashes | dorkmafia
[00:06] <ProphetZarquon> mamece2, that I have no idea. I don't see why not, unless you hibernate one and wake the other while stuff is still on disk. Probably not though.
[00:07] <mamece2> prophetzarquon when i try to boot ubuntu 11, i see some FAIL messages. something about network, i will take a picture and try the swap thing, brb , thx
[00:08] <ProphetZarquon> Network fails are typical if net boot is enabled but no bootable network drive is connected...
[00:10] <dorkmafia> MD5 (ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso) = 7de611b50c283c1755b4007a4feb0379 which maps to ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso on the documenation page
[00:11] <dorkmafia> but when i run it on the usb key i get MD5 (/Volumes/Ubuntu 11.04 amd/) = 57ccf4e0c8ce2031c26326293d294ccd
[00:11] <dorkmafia> is that the reason?
[00:13] <ProphetZarquon> I can't imagine an installed bootable drive would share the same hash as the ISO it's made from...
[00:13] <josephseraos> ikonia: Great. but it shows divided. I'd like a book to have all informations including secure tip
[00:13] <ikonia> josephseraos: you're not going to find one
[00:14] <josephseraos> ikonia, why?
[00:14] <ikonia> josephseraos: treat each component seperatly, make your own notes based on the good notes in the wiki
[00:19] <syrius> does latest ubuntu still use gnome or did I download the wrong ubuntu?
[00:20] <josephseraos> if I exceed login limit (more then 5 trying), how many times I have wait?
[00:20] <ikonia> syrius: it uses an interface called unity
[00:20] <rww> syrius: All released versions of Ubuntu use GNOME 2. Ubuntu 11.04 and above use Unity. Ubuntu 11.10 will use Unity and GNOME 3.
[00:20] <syrius> so no more gnome?
[00:20] <rww> syrius: Unity is a UI for GNOME.
[00:20] <ikonia> josephseraos: there isn't a limit on ubuntu
[00:21] <rww> or shell, if you like
[00:21] <josephseraos> on ubuntu server yes
[00:21] <rww> !classic | syrius
[00:21] <ikonia> josephseraos: there isn#t
[00:21] <syrius> no problem I like the new ubuntu interface
[00:21] <syrius> looks very cool
[00:21] <syrius> I was just curious
[00:22] <syrius> so gnome doesn't use metacity anymore?
[00:22] <syrius> or is it like openbox?
[00:22] <dr_willis> gnome can use metacity
[00:22] <ikonia> !unity | syrius
[00:22] <dr_willis> the eyecandy is handled by compiz however syrius
[00:23] <rww> syrius: GNOME upstream uses metacity or mutter. Ubuntu GNOME uses Compiz or metacity.
[00:23] <ikonia>           [Quit: iamaquitmessage]
[00:23] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[00:24] <nsq> the only thing i hate about unity is, i cant use the "launcher" on the bottom :/
[00:25] <mamece2> its me again, it seem that since ive erased the swap partition i dont have enough space in my ubuntu 11 partition. how can that be?
[00:25] <Scunizi> Suddenly (I think after the last update) my numeric keypad on my desktop stopped working.  I looked at the configuration for the keyboard and it's correct.. Any ideas how to fix this?  I use it a lot.
[00:25] <syrius> yeah I noticed that too nsq
[00:25] <alkafoo> Scunizi: did you try hitting numlock?
[00:25] <Scunizi> alkafoo, DOH!...... several times
[00:25] <alkafoo> mamece2: it can't be, you've done something else
[00:26] <alkafoo> Scunizi: an even or odd number of several times? =P
[00:26] <Scunizi> alkafoo, both..
[00:26] <mamece2> alkafoo first i erased wicd, then i mess with gpart and erased my two swap partition
[00:26] <ProphetZ> Still can't find any logs to indicate why Direct X keeps crashing my Virtual Box of XP, but so does Now Playing in WMP and so does VLC directx setting.
[00:26] <alkafoo> Scunizi: wireless keyboard?
[00:26] <alkafoo> ProphetZ: Wine might be a better approach for that
[00:27] <dr_willis> just deleting a swap partition does not resize the other partitions.. :) unless you resized them
[00:27] <alkafoo> mamece2: two?
[00:27] <Scunizi> alkafoo, nope.. MS cumfort curve 2000 which is recognized by the system.. Oh.. this is the release prior to 11.04 and unity.. ie 10.10
[00:27] <josephseraos> I'm running ubuntu server in virtualbox. And virtualbox is running in Ubuntu. How can I access the Server
[00:27] <alkafoo> Scunizi: if you CTRL+ALT+F2 does it work?
[00:27] <josephseraos> There is running Apache. How can I access it?
[00:27] <alkafoo> josephseraos: ssh
[00:28] <Scunizi> alkafoo, yep.. no issues getting to the TTY
[00:28] <alkafoo> Scunizi: does numpad work there
[00:28] <alkafoo> (try toggling numlock as well)
[00:28] <dr_willis> josephseraos:  you can access it as you would any other real machine on the network. ssh , ftp, whatever.
[00:28] <Scunizi> alkafoo, I'll check..
[00:28] <mamece2> alkafoo one partition that i already had with ubuntu 11 , and another that was created when i installed BT5
[00:28] <dr_willis> josephseraos:  you just set up the right servies on the virtual machine
[00:28] <mamece2> alkafoo when i boot in safe mode, i cant get the graphic mode to work, just console
[00:28] <LocoenelCoco> hello, wich one is the best ubuntu to use on the desktop: 10.4 LTS or 11.04???
[00:28] <ProphetZ> Wine won't run anything I've tried. Went round and round. Need XP for games and Rosetta Stone.
[00:29] <Scunizi> alkafoo, it does work there.. (my password is a mix of number and characters.. )
[00:29] <alkafoo> mamece2: one problem at a time =P
[00:29] <Jordan_U> !best | LocoenelCoco
[00:29] <alkafoo> LocoenelCoco: LTS stands for long term support
[00:29] <alkafoo> Jordan_U: seriously? =P
[00:29] <Renard> Hello, is there a way to share a physical device (/dev/dvb/adapter0) so it can be accessed by other machines on the same local network?
[00:29] <nsq> LocoenelCoco, ubuntu 10.04 it doesnt really matter, LTS just means, it is longer supported, so you could use it in a company without upgrading so much
[00:30] <alkafoo> Renard: what sort of device?
[00:30] <Renard> DVB-T usb tv tuner
[00:30] <alkafoo> or so you'll have the same system without any radical upstream changes longer
[00:30] <mamece2> alkafoo my problem is that i cant get to ubuntu 11, the screen is just black and with the following message> disconected from plyouth
[00:30] <alkafoo> Renard: I'm sure you could stream whatever you process with it over a network, anyways
[00:31] <LocoenelCoco> ok got it
[00:31] <Renard> alkafoo, it would lack EGP, Channel selection, and the like
[00:31] <syrius> ubuntu! rules down with microshaft and small mac apples!
[00:31] <Scunizi> alkafoo, any other clues to check? or a diagnostic solution?
[00:31] <syrius> long live ubuntu!
[00:31] <josephseraos> alkafoo, How do I do that?
[00:31] <syrius> :)
[00:32] <alkafoo> Renard: not if you set up a remote control
[00:32] <alkafoo> josephseraos: do what?
[00:32] <josephseraos> access using ssh.
[00:32] <ProphetZ> Yes, Renard tuners will need an app to run on the physically connected machine. Try VLC and use its webUI for remote control and viewing its stream across the network.
[00:32] <Renard> that would allow channel surfing, but not EGP
[00:32] <mamece2> how can i reinstall ubuntu without losing my information and upgrades and additional software
[00:32] <alkafoo> josephseraos: make sure sshd is running in the guest (probably is for a server, but /etc/init.d/sshd start or the like), run sudo ifconfig to get the IP, then from host you run ssh user@IPhere
[00:33] <sool> Hi all! im looking for a document viewer (just as sleek as eviance) for pdf-files which allows me to annotate the documents (ie underscore, highlight etc.)
[00:33] <alkafoo> mamece2: shouldn't be a need to
[00:33] <alkafoo> sool: I think xournal has that
[00:33] <Renard> I figured that since everything is a "file", sharing it - at least to experiment - on the network could somewhat work
[00:33] <ProphetZ> EGP? The guide? Yes that works fine on mine.
[00:33] <alkafoo> everything isn't a file, just almost everything
[00:33] <Renard> but that's probably a simplistic view
[00:34] <alkafoo> but you don't need to share the device, because you can control it over the network
[00:34] <alkafoo> it and any of its output
[00:34] <ProphetZ> You view the guide through VLC.
[00:34] <mamece2> alkafoo thisis my problem, when i get to grub i choose ubuntu11 and then after a while i cant get to the graphic mode, just black screen with a message about disconnectec from plymouth
[00:34] <Scunizi> alkafoo, I think I figured it out, or at least what the problem is. I even knew the solution a year ago but can't remember it.. the numeric keypad is now an assistive device and moves the mouse.  I checked the preferences for Assistive Tech. and nothing it ticked for keyboard.  There use to be a hot key combination that would toggle the numeric keypad between assistive and "keypad".. do you know what that hot key combo is?
[00:34] <archie_ait> #ubuntu-beginners-help
[00:34] <archie_ait> hey
[00:34] <bastidrazor> Scunizi: ctrl alt shift numlock .. i think
[00:34] <archie_ait> my wifi isn't working
[00:34] <alkafoo> mamece2: you said
[00:35] <alkafoo> Scunizi: shift+numlock I thought
[00:35] <Renard> I'm confused on how to set this up
[00:35] <Scunizi> bastidrazor, alkafoo .. You both have the winning answer!  Thanks for the assist!
[00:35] <mamece2> alkafoo should a dpkg restore help me_
[00:36] <alkafoo> Scunizi: I doubt we both have =P
[00:36] <mamece2> ??????
[00:36] <Scunizi> alkafoo, both solutions worked..
[00:36] <alkafoo> mamece2: first thing I'd do is a search of ubuntuforums.org
[00:36] <nsq> archie_ait, if it is a usb stick, type "lsusb" in a terminal, if it is some sort of integrated laptop wifi, try "lspci", and look what wifi card do you have, we need to know that.
[00:36] <alkafoo> Scunizi: naturally if shift+numlock works [ctrl+alt+]shift+numlock might work
[00:36] <mamece2> alkafoo im in this chat because i though its gonna be faster..
[00:36] <ProphetZ> Rreeargh! Everything keeps crashing this VM. I'll try turning off acceleration, first both then 2d then 3d.
[00:37] <alkafoo> mamece2: how's that working out?
[00:37] <mamece2> its useless
[00:37] <alkafoo> ProphetZ: VM isn't the right approach for graphics stuff
[00:37] <alkafoo> mamece2: no it isn't, I just told you to search the forums =)
[00:38] <josephseraos> this is the point: I'm running Ubuntu Server on VirtualBox. When I do ifconfig command, it returns some informations, that one of that is its IP: 10.0.2.15 - But I cannot access typing this address in my browser.
[00:39] <ProphetZ> alkafoo, so I'm back to dual boot. I'll need to shrink my Linux partition... Any help on that?
[00:39] <sool> alkafoo: thanks, it does a nice job!
[00:39] <MonkeyDust> applications in my Automatic Startup list won't start automatically -- hints & tips?
[00:39] <josephseraos> I cannot access from Guest OS
[00:39] <alkafoo> josephseraos: into a terminal: ssh user@10.0.2.15
[00:39] <alkafoo> ProphetZ: what do you ened Windows for, exactly?
[00:40] <josephseraos> this user is the guest or the host?
[00:40] <alkafoo> josephseraos: you said you wanted to access the guest from the host, no?
[00:40] <mamece2> alkafoo the problem with things in forums is that i can break more things trying to fix this one
[00:40] <alkafoo> ssh remoteuser@remoteip
[00:40] <ProphetZ> mamece2 it sounds like reinstall time, use another OS to copy your media and archives and wipe the Ubuntu 11.04 (I've done it thrice this week)
[00:41] <alkafoo> mamece2: maybe you should hide in your fallout shelter, then
[00:41] <josephseraos> I think the gues is the Real SO and host is the VirtualBox
[00:41] <ProphetZ> alkafoo, apps.
[00:41] <mamece2> prophetZ :(
[00:41] <alkafoo> ProphetZ: wow, you really should stop doing that
[00:41] <urlin2u> MonkeyDust, how did you load any not there in the basic install?
[00:41] <alkafoo> even if your Linux install _doesn't boot_ (his does), the chances you need to reinstall are incredibly minimal
[00:42] <MonkeyDust> urlin2u: yes, dropbox, guake and wally
[00:42] <MonkeyDust> ah, 'how'
[00:42] <ProphetZ> Well it'll take less time than re-reading the same unhelpful forum discussions when a fresh install is guaranteed to fix.
[00:42] <mamece2> if god exist then why praying cant fix ubuntu?
[00:42] <MonkeyDust> urlin2u: by pushing 'Add'
[00:42] <alkafoo> ProphetZ: 'copy your media and archives' takes less time?
[00:43] <ProphetZ> Yes!
[00:43] <alkafoo> you people have been using Windows too much
[00:43] <urlin2u> MonkeyDust, add then?
[00:43] <alkafoo> mamece2: because God uses Dettu[Xx]
[00:43] <ProphetZ> You haven't offered a solution to his problem. Mine will fix it. Who's advice is better in that case?
[00:44] <josephseraos> alkafoo, My REAL SO is Ubuntu I think this is the guest
[00:44] <bazhang> ProphetZ, thats terrible advice. please dont
[00:44] <mamece2> im with prophetZ but first i will try this xorg.conf thingy
[00:44] <josephseraos> alkafoo, Ubuntu SERVER is running on VirtualBOX
[00:44] <alkafoo> josephseraos: what?
[00:44] <alkafoo> host = box VirtualBox is run from; guest = box run inside VirtualBox
[00:45] <urlin2u> MonkeyDust, so many of the launchers end up in usr/bin/"app name"  you would use the browse in the add section to ger there.
[00:45] <urlin2u> get*
[00:45] <ProphetZ> If Ubuntu can't boot to GUI because the swap partition was wiped out due to deletion /format and nobody can offer a fix to get it reestablished, then the logical fix is to reinstall since it worked before.
[00:45] <urlin2u> MonkeyDust, some will run with just the app name, for example conky.
[00:45] <alkafoo> ProphetZ: maybe in a vacuum it is
[00:46] <alkafoo> for starters if you delete your swap partition, the system will still boot
[00:46] <ProphetZ> So what's your advice then? I offered a fix, what's your fix?
[00:46] <josephseraos> alkafoo, Sorry if I cannot do you understand. See: My SO is Ubuntu-Linux, OK? And I have other SO (Ubuntu Server) running on VirtualBox. Ok? And in Ubuntu Server, there is a webpage. So, I'd like to access it (server) from my browser on Ubunto (out of the virtualbox) Understand?
[00:46] <alkafoo> my advice is that he learn what his problem is and not waste his time installing like he's using a closed source OS
[00:46] <MonkeyDust> tnx urlin2u
[00:47] <alkafoo> josephseraos: ah
[00:47] <ProphetZ> Well his doesn't. You want to guide him? Do it, but saying "go read the forums" doesn't help someone who's already done that and got nowhere.
[00:47] <urlin2u> MonkeyDust, no problem, hope that helps.
[00:47] <bazhang> ProphetZ, thats enough please
[00:47] <alkafoo> josephseraos: VirtualBox makes that easy, IIRC; http://www.google.com/search?q=virtualbox%20web%20server
[00:48] <ProphetZ> OK. But neither of you are helping him.
[00:48] <ProphetZ> Bye.
[00:48] <dorkmafia> I just created the usb drive again and I still get the same error
[00:48] <alkafoo> ProphetZ: I believe he has a problem, but it isn't the swap partition
[00:48] <dorkmafia> DISK boot failure insert system disk
[00:48] <VaRen> anyone here?
[00:49] <dorkmafia> i guess i'll just download the windows installer
[00:49] <dorkmafia> this usb key thing is full of fail
[00:49] <VaRen> any one can help me?
[00:49] <Neoncamouflage> In 11.04, you can add things to path by typing PATH = $PATH:/home/username/directory right?
[00:49] <urlin2u> darkcharl, how are you do the usb load and is it a HD or a pendrive.
[00:49] <alkafoo> Neoncamouflage: what is it you want to add?
[00:50] <alkafoo> VaRen: not unless you state your problem
[00:50] <dorkmafia> it's a flash drive
[00:50] <Neoncamouflage> home directory/bin/Python/Tutorials
[00:50] <urlin2u> darkmafia:  how are you do the usb load and is it a HD or a pendrive.
[00:50] <dorkmafia> i just followed the instructions on the unbuntu page
[00:50] <Neoncamouflage> or basically anything inside of ~/bin
[00:50] <Duolos> Okay, so I have installed Kubuntu 11.04 and ubuntu-desktop.  However, I can't get the normal Ubuntu/Gnome/Unity to work.  It logs me in with an empty desktop (no panels, launchers, etc).  I've tried it with both the OSS and proprietary video drivers.  I can run Unity in a terminal, but it's very buggy when doing it that way.  Ubuntu Classic works fine.
[00:50] <josephseraos> alkafoo, Thank you. I'll try now
[00:50] <alkafoo> Neoncamouflage: why not make use of /usr/local/bin/ ?
[00:50] <urlin2u> darkmafia, is it a pendrive or a HD?
[00:51] <dorkmafia> urlin2u: It's a usb flash drive…
[00:51] <Neoncamouflage> alkafoo: Ease of access mainly
[00:51] <alkafoo> Duolos: what graphics device?
[00:51] <urlin2u> darkmafia. try unetbootin it is on the web.
[00:51] <dorkmafia> pendrive = flash drive?
[00:51] <urlin2u> yes
[00:51] <bastidrazor> Neoncamouflage: i have PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"  added to my .bashrc
[00:51] <eoss> anyone know regex for grep here?
[00:51] <dorkmafia> there is no pen though ;)
[00:51] <alkafoo> Neoncamouflage: you think ~/bin/ is easier to access than /usr/local/bin/ ?
[00:52] <alkafoo> eoss: ?
[00:52] <dorkmafia> i just want an installer
[00:52] <Lasers> alkafoo: It is easier because it's located in home directoy.
[00:52] <Neoncamouflage> alkafoo: Open terminal, cd bin, and I'm there. So yeah. :P
[00:52] <Lasers> directory*
[00:52] <dorkmafia> the drive i want to install ubuntu on is in my pc
[00:52] <eoss> trying to list the multiple strings that occur inside this pattern xmlUrl=[all of this] and ends with />
[00:52] <alkafoo> Neoncamouflage: ln -s /usr/local/bin/ ~/bin
[00:52] <dorkmafia> it's empty just stitting there saying "hey install ubuntu on me"
[00:52] <urlin2u> darkmafia, there never is we just have to rely on what people call it I call it a thumb drive.  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[00:52] <eoss> grep doesnt like brackets or something
[00:53] <Neoncamouflage> alkafoo: What's that do?>
[00:53] <bastidrazor> alkafoo: do you know how to add directories to ones path?
[00:53] <dr_willis> You should just add usr/local/bin to your PATH
[00:53] <alkafoo> Neoncamouflage: makes cd bin go to /usr/local/bin/ transparently
[00:53] <dr_willis> !path
[00:53] <bastidrazor> Neoncamouflage: symlinks those two directories. add PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"  to your .bashrc and you're done
[00:53] <urlin2u> dorkmafia, format it to a fat32 so it is fresh and use ubetbootin.
[00:53] <Dazzled> anyone else sometimes has application windows maximizing to right beneath CHrome's tabs?
[00:53] <Aeth> Does anyone have a direct link to a repo's web interface?
[00:53] <MrKeuner> Neoncamouflage, bastidrazor's suggestion will work. PATH definitions are not recursive though...
[00:53] <v0lt> eoss: escape the brackets?
[00:53] <Aeth> I need to wget a file directly.
[00:53] <dorkmafia> urlin2u: will this give me a way to install ubuntu onto a hard drive in my pc? or will it install ubuntu on to the 4gb drive?
[00:53] <alkafoo> Aeth: packages.ubuntu.com
[00:54] <dr_willis> I dont see the need to link /usr/local/bin to ~/bin/
[00:54] <srgjames> #general
[00:54] <Dazzled> it causes the window to be off centre, and the mouse to miss its intended targets
[00:54] <Neoncamouflage> That's fine, can add each directory individually. Many thanks alkafoo, bastidrazor, and MrKeuner
[00:54] <alkafoo> dorkmafia: latter, and the former by way of the latter
[00:54] <urlin2u> dorkmafia, it is the live cd loaded to the thumb for install, or use.
[00:54] <alkafoo> dr_willis: nor do I
[00:54] <zaccagnino> Is there any way I can watch the live feed of the Jets vs Cowboys game it uses Silverlight Im trying moonlight and it just says loading
[00:54] <srgjames> how can i get to a general ubuntu chat channel
[00:54] <dorkmafia> ok
[00:54] <bastidrazor> alkafoo: you're making no sense.
[00:54] <Duolos> alkafoo: it's a built in ATI Radeon HD 4200
[00:54] <bastidrazor> srgjames: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:54] <dorkmafia> i'll give it a shot right now
[00:54] <dorkmafia> brb
[00:54] <dr_willis> zaccagnino:  if its drm protected. not on linux.
[00:54] <alkafoo> zaccagnino: it's quite likely there is another stream you can use
[00:54] <alkafoo> bastidrazor: you're
[00:54] <Aeth> alkafoo: which category is mysql under?
[00:55] <alkafoo> Aeth: no idea, ask apt-cache search mysql
[00:55] <urlin2u> dorkmafia, not a full install just the live cd loaded, you can use the persistent function in unetbootin if you want to save stuff though
[00:55] <bastidrazor> alkafoo: i am, what?
[00:55] <zaccagnino> Well moonlight is supposed to play silverlight apps but it is not working
[00:55] <dr_willis> unetbootin finally added a persistant option?
[00:56] <dr_willis> zaccagnino:  not video streams with 'copy protection'
[00:56] <urlin2u> dr_willis, beeen there for a little while ubuntu only I believe.
[00:56] <mamece2> can someone explain me the third step? 2) Go into the /etc/X11 folder and rename the xorg.conf to some other file such as xorg.conf.jimbo.backup. Copy the xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf.
[00:56] <zaccagnino> good point
[00:56] <mamece2> 3) Issue the two commands above about initramfs and the framebuffer.
[00:58] <Onionnion> 1,454 total users, uffda
[00:58] <zaccagnino> ha i got it
[00:58] <Onionnion> Well hallo
[00:58] <zaccagnino> Lets go Cowboys lol you guys have a good night
[00:58] <dr_willis> mamece2:  you aer just moving a file to a new name. and keeping the old under a differnt name
[00:59] <dorkmafia> what version of ubuntu do i want live or hdlive?
[00:59] <dr_willis> hdlive? never heard of that term.
[00:59] <dr_willis> The Desktop cd is a live cd.
[01:00] <mamece2> dr_willis i mean the 3th step, issue the two commands above about initramsd and the freambuffer
[01:00] <Onionnion> Not sure if this is the right channel or not..but could somebody take a look at this log from a grub-install error?
[01:01] <dr_willis> mamece2:  no idea what you are doing or how those apply,
[01:03] <mamece2> dr_willis i have a disconnected plymouth error
[01:03] <eoss> why does this regex return nothing
[01:03] <eoss> cat feeds | grep xmlUrl=\"[.+]
[01:04] <alkafoo> eoss: because it doesn't match anything
[01:04] <dr_willis> mamece2:  personally - i just disable plymouth normally. I find it adds pointless problems for little gain.
[01:04] <mamece2> dr_willis have you heard about it_
[01:04] <mamece2> ?
[01:04] <raven> This is my Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250 (rev 5f). When I sit next to my friend (she's on a mac), her connection to the internet is just dandy (fast/modern). My connection is crap! The difference is broadband vs aol 1.0... is it my hardware/driver?
[01:04] <eoss> thats not even the correct regex i need im simply trying to get the . to match everything like its supposed to
[01:05] <brian> hello
[01:05] <eoss> like this should work
[01:05] <eoss> cat feeds | grep xmlUrl=\"[.+]\"$
[01:05] <eoss> and it doesnt
[01:05] <berlusconithebes> hi
[01:05] <alkafoo> eoss: egrep -io 'xmlurl=".*?"' feeds
[01:05] <Gredeu> indeed
[01:05] <dik> hey guys
[01:05] <raven> We are sharing the same wifi, btw. I wonder if that's part of why my laptop was so cheap?
[01:05] <dik> look what i drew: http://i.imgur.com/1XoDF.jpg
[01:06] <L1nuxRules> eoss that grep wouldnt work
[01:06] <eoss> wow that works alkafoo
[01:07] <eoss> thanks man
[01:07] <L1nuxRules> eoss you cant use things like " in grep
[01:07] <alkafoo> L1nuxRules: shhh
[01:07] <eoss> yea that \" worked
[01:07] <eoss> was just my [.+] that didnt
[01:07] <b7> i want to set up lvm in plain cryptsetup on an ssd. how do i make sure the alignment is right?
[01:08] <ubuntuguy> I'm trying to change my laptops swappiness to 10. I have 2g of ram btw. I type in the command sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf and now I'm confused about what to do next
[01:08] <L1nuxRules> alkafoo was on about his not yours
[01:08] <ubuntuguy> Help?
[01:08] <urlin2u> b7, alignment?
[01:08] <L1nuxRules> eoss you can when its within ''
[01:08] <L1nuxRules> or ``
[01:08] <eoss> that *? combination ...thats saying....0 or more times...multiple times..or something right alkafoo
[01:08] <edbian> ubuntuguy: hi
[01:08] <L1nuxRules> alkafoo not on*
[01:08] <edbian> ubuntuguy: go to the very bottom and add vm.swappiness=10
[01:08] <urlin2u> ubuntuguy, have you posted a question?
[01:09] <alkafoo> L1nuxRules: doesn't matter what you were on, what you said was wrong...
[01:09] <b7> urlin2u: yeah, apparently ssds get chewed up more quickly if the alignment is wrong.
[01:09] <ubuntuguy> k
[01:09] <urlin2u> b7, not true
[01:09] <ubuntuguy> And how do I save?
[01:09] <edbian> ubuntuguy: here's mine:  http://pastebin.com/n4nA6k94
[01:09] <edbian> ubuntuguy: ctrl +
[01:09] <L1nuxRules> alkafoo yes I am should read things 3 times after drinking
[01:09] <edbian> ubuntuguy: ctrl + x     to save
[01:09] <eoss> i want to isolate what it finds inside the quotations like this..but this isnt working
[01:09] <eoss> egrep 'xmlUrl="(.*?)"'
[01:10] <alkafoo> L1nuxRules: or drink more =)
[01:10] <L1nuxRules> :)
[01:10] <ubuntuguy> and then I type in what? Y?
[01:10] <dorkmafia> i just used unetbootin to create the install drive and it said "operating system missing"
[01:10] <ubuntuguy> I box came up, FILE NAME TO WRITE:
[01:10] <dorkmafia> or missing operating system after it booted
[01:10] <ubuntuguy> What do I type in?
[01:10] <b7> urlin2u: well, you could be right, but everybody on the net seems to disagree.
[01:11] <edbian> ubuntuguy: ctrl + x  -> y  -> enter
[01:11] <b7> urlin2u: see stuff like gdisk, pvcreate --dataalignment, etc.
[01:11] <edbian> ubuntuguy: use my name if you're talking to me
[01:11] <urlin2u> b7, it is a old wives tail a OCD argument really.
[01:11] <fus10nx1> If I need to give another user access to a folder, how can I set those permissions ?
[01:11] <alkafoo> eoss: | perl -pe 's/xmlUrl="//g','s/"$//g'
[01:11] <ubuntuguy> and do I change name?
[01:11] <fus10nx1> i want another user to have full access to /var/www and all subdirectories
[01:11] <L1nuxRules> dorkmafia not familiar with netbootin but the boot loader is pointing to the wrong /boot partition or the install is corupt
[01:11] <edbian> fus10nx1: permission to read or write or execute?
[01:12] <fus10nx1> all of the above
[01:12] <fus10nx1> but not to the public, only for this one other user
[01:12] <L1nuxRules> by the sounds of it *
[01:12] <dorkmafia> so should i download the img again?
[01:12] <edbian> fus10nx1: make the file owned by a group both of you are in.  then chmod 770    (owner and group can do anything, others can't even read)
[01:13] <fus10nx1> whats weird is I made this user a super user
[01:13] <dorkmafia> the md5sum looks fine
[01:13] <fus10nx1> but they still dont have access
[01:13] <edbian> fus10nx1: Then they could sudo   and access it
[01:13] <fus10nx1> well im trying to have them be able to FTP
[01:13] <fus10nx1> and they keep getting access denied
[01:13] <edbian> fus10nx1: what do you mean you made them 'super user'
[01:13] <dr_willis> fus10nx1:  I belive the use of groups is the proper way to allow access to /var/www/
[01:13] <L1nuxRules> dorkmafia do an md5 on the img or try installing it in a vm to verify it , personally Id reinstall to the usb
[01:13] <fus10nx1> ok
[01:13] <dr_willis> !groups
[01:14] <fus10nx1> what about chown'ing the directory
[01:14] <fus10nx1> chown username: psaserv -R /var/www/*
[01:14] <dorkmafia> i've reinstalled to the usb several times
[01:14] <urlin2u> dorkmafia, so where are you at is it that a thumb wont bot?
[01:14] <dorkmafia> several diff ways
[01:14] <dr_willis> fus10nx1:  I belive the use of groups is the proper way to allow access to /var/www/  .. proper way. vs some dirty way. :)
[01:14] <fus10nx1> ill investigates groups
[01:14] <urlin2u> boot*
[01:14] <dorkmafia> it says missing operating system now
[01:14] <dr_willis> !permissions
[01:14] <edbian> fus10nx1: that makes psaserv the owner of all those files
[01:14] <dorkmafia> so i guess that's progress
[01:14] <dorkmafia> it boots but can't find os
[01:15] <urlin2u> dorkmafia, did you format the thumb and use unetbootin?
[01:15] <dorkmafia> yup
[01:15] <dr_willis> fus10nx1:  check askubuntu.com and the forums - i see that same question asked all the time in here. so it has to be asked there  dozens of times also
[01:15] <L1nuxRules> the use of groups on /var/ww/vhosts or where ever is for ftp
[01:15] <urlin2u> dorkmafia, the error is can't find OS, at what point?
[01:15] <L1nuxRules> in things like Plesk
[01:15] <ubuntuguy> Under File Name To Write: what do I put?
[01:15] <fus10nx1> what group is my default 'ubuntu' user part of /
[01:15] <dr_willis> ubuntuguy:  whatever filename you are wanting to write to... ive no idea what you are doing exactly. :)
[01:15] <dorkmafia> urlin2u: so it gets passed the bios
[01:16] <urlin2u> and
[01:16] <dorkmafia> then it just dumps that msg out a billion times
[01:16] <dr_willis> fus10nx1:  you used ubuntu as the name for your initial user?
[01:16] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 on an ubuntu server provided by an host?
[01:16] <fus10nx1> ya
[01:17] <fus10nx1> EC2 from amazon
[01:17] <dorkmafia> i'm trying again
[01:18] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 any control panels like Plesk or c panel on it?
[01:18] <fus10nx1> no\
[01:18] <smw> fus10nx1, ti answer you question. type "groups"
[01:18] <fus10nx1> groups
[01:18] <fus10nx1> !groups
[01:18] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 will be the ftp user group then and owned by root
[01:18] <smw> fus10nx1, in a terminal!
[01:18] <fus10nx1> ah, haha ok
[01:18] <fus10nx1> L1nuxRules: I am trying to make 'user1' have the same FTP "power" as the Ubntu user
[01:19] <fus10nx1> i.e. they can read/write/execture in /var/www and all sub dir's
[01:19] <urlin2u> dorkmafia, so let try this when you power on tap the f12 key and see if you get a pout of the bios boot from menu, and see what is offered.
[01:19] <urlin2u> out*
[01:19] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 dont do that you will insecure your box
[01:19] <fus10nx1> well you still need the auth file
[01:19] <fus10nx1> so its fine
[01:19] <dorkmafia> urlin2u: i d o that already ;) press f12 and select usb fdd
 ah, haha ok [br detected]
[01:19] <L1nuxRules> lol
[01:19] <dorkmafia> i also tried with usb hdd
[01:20] <smw> fus10nx1, did you find what you were looking for?
[01:20] <JoFo> Hello. I’ve tried to make a boot USB flash drive with Ubuntu Lucid (the last LTS) 32 bits. When I try to boot on the USB flash drive, on two different computers, I get the message “vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image”. Is that a deficiency of the flash drive which I should replace or did I forget something important?
[01:20] <urlin2u> dorkmafia, it may be that that is not the right one at times a thumb can read as a HD or even a cd reader, tey every one.
[01:20] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 why do you want to give an ftp account root?
[01:21] <fus10nx1> becuase i need to be able to create stuff /var/www
[01:21] <urlin2u> JoFo, how did you load the usb?
[01:21] <dorkmafia> haha ok
[01:21] <dorkmafia> i will
[01:21] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 if you need ftp access to / then use sftp and the root login
[01:21] <smw> fus10nx1, use scp
[01:21] <smw> fus10nx1, there is an sftp client for windows if you need it
[01:21] <fus10nx1> it needs to be regular FTP unfort
[01:22] <fus10nx1> for programming reasons
[01:22] <Gray> what is the 'run dialog' in Ubuntu?
[01:22] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 secure your scripts or get better devs
[01:22] <dr_willis> :-)
[01:22] <fus10nx1> for now I just need to get my other user to FTP and be able to write in /var/www and all sub dir's
[01:22] <fus10nx1> regardless of security right now, for testing
[01:23] <smw> fus10nx1, this is not very secure :-\
[01:23] <fus10nx1> i know but this is just for a test
[01:23] <fus10nx1> to verify server connection stuff
[01:23] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 if its only /var/www then that would be ok to give to user1
[01:23] <fus10nx1> ya, tahts all, and all sub dir's
[01:23] <dr_willis> chmod it 777 and hang on     uf security dint matter
[01:23] <josephseraos> alkafoo, couldn't
[01:23] <fus10nx1> so /var/www/*
[01:24] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 thats ok
[01:24] <fus10nx1> well chmod 777 gives all of the public access too, correct ?
[01:24] <L1nuxRules> yes
[01:24] <surfnsound> can anyone answer what is probably a pretty simple question for me? Google has failed me so far
[01:24] <L1nuxRules> you wanty 755
[01:24] <fus10nx1> ok
[01:24] <dr_willis> you saud you dident care about security
[01:24] <fus10nx1> well, within the system, not to the public !
[01:24] <lng> hi! after Ubuntu version upgrade, I couldn't boot to my system in normal mode. I used grub to enter recovery mode, but my display is screwed up - entire picture moved left so that the left part appeared at right. what should I do with it?
[01:25] <urlin2u> surfnsound, we can't until you ask,:D
[01:25] <L1nuxRules> make sure owner is root to so you want root:user1
[01:25] <qin> dr_willis: I made it once, as experiment. Server lasted for 12 hours.
[01:25] <jrtech> surfnsound:  ?
[01:25] <fus10nx1> L1nuxRules: what do you mean?
[01:25] <dr_willis> qin :-D
[01:25] <fus10nx1> in /etc/groups ?
[01:25] <brian_> surfnsound, u writing a novel
[01:25] <ttotiss> oi! novo em linux e meio perdido aqui
[01:25] <surfnsound> Where can I find files saved to the desktop if I'm trying to recover them later?
[01:25] <L1nuxRules> make sure the permissions are within group as opposed to owner
[01:26] <L1nuxRules> at os level
[01:26] <picolo> ttotiss: Entao vai para o IRC do ubuntu br #ubuntu-br
[01:26] <fus10nx1> L1nuxRules: so chmod /var/www 755
[01:26] <dorkmafia> still says missing operating system.
[01:26] <alkafoo> surfnsound: ~/Desktop/, frequently
[01:26] <urlin2u> surfnsound, on the desk top using another live cd to boot
[01:27] <L1nuxRules> yes
[01:27] <fus10nx1>  ok
[01:27] <fus10nx1> thanks
[01:27] <qin> fus10nx1: You would be better to have ftp group and ssh user.
[01:27] <fus10nx1> its fine, theres only two users on the system
[01:27] <fus10nx1> so both users should have full access to /var/www/*
[01:27] <dorkmafia> verifying dmi pool data……… then missing operating system
[01:27] <urlin2u> surfnsound, you might consider cloning any install, and backing up regularly.
[01:27] <dorkmafia> ova and ova
 JoFo, how did you load the usb? ← The flash drive was formatted in FAT 32 and is bootable. I used usb-creator-gtk. I googled for my error message and it seems I’m not alone to experience that error. I’ll try the solution proposed here (http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=405857) in a few minutes.
[01:28] <surfnsound> I booted with a live USB, but the original was a wubi install, I maneged to get the home folder, but I can't find the files that were on the desktop
[01:28] <fus10nx1> blah
[01:28] <fus10nx1> didnt work
[01:28] <L1nuxRules> wubi dont use it just use the proper install
[01:28] <jrtech> if they were on the desktop that were they would be
[01:28] <Listener> Server: irc.chatitup.org
[01:28]  * dorkmafia sighs
[01:28] <surfnsound> yeah, I am going to do a proper install now, but my x server failed and I can't get back into the wubi to revoer
[01:29] <dorkmafia> usb drive y u can't find operating system?
[01:29] <surfnsound> *recover
[01:29] <fus10nx1> not workin'
[01:29] <urlin2u> JoFo, unfortunately I can't read French.
[01:29] <jrtech> iso is not recoverable though
[01:29] <fus10nx1> find /var/www -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[01:30] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 whats not working?
[01:30] <fus10nx1> still not letting me upload a file
[01:30] <fus10nx1> via FTP
[01:30] <L1nuxRules> whats the group aand owner of the dir?
[01:30] <Listener> How do I connect to a new server?????????? -using xchat
[01:30] <urlin2u> surfnsound, wubi is a file in windows easyliy gotten to.
[01:31] <urlin2u> easily*
[01:31] <qin> Listener: /connect your.server.xxx
[01:31] <dorkmafia> urlin2u: i think i'm going to break down
[01:31] <dorkmafia> and just download the windows installer
[01:32] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 whats the group and owner on the dir?
[01:32] <fus10nx1> how can i check that?
[01:32] <fus10nx1> ls -lah ?
[01:32] <dorkmafia> would that be the easiest way? I have windows on the pc i am trying to install ubuntu on
[01:32] <L1nuxRules> yes
[01:32] <L1nuxRules> you only need -lh though
[01:32] <surfnsound> urlin2u, if i reinstall using wubi of a newer version, will i be able to recover all files?
[01:33] <fus10nx1> L1nuxRules: http://pastebin.com/uY97awyZ
[01:33] <urlin2u> dorkmafia, might just be the thumb, even if the md5sum is correct also does not n=mean it is workable at times as well, a lot of variables, I'm surprised your having problems though.
[01:33] <Aeth> How do I secure a mySQL/apache/php server?
[01:33] <L1nuxRules> the dir is owned by root and in the root group thats why it wont work
[01:33] <acetoline> hi all, I got a wireless bluetooth headset and am using it with ubuntu, it supports a2dp and the sound is of average quality, but I noticed that it uses SBC and I was wondering if my settings are too low quality. How would i change SBC coding parameters?
[01:34] <urlin2u> surfnsound, you can only have one wubi, open the wubi folder in in C and pull out what you need.
[01:34] <fus10nx1> L1nuxRules: is there any way to fix that?
[01:34] <fus10nx1> what if I make 'user1' part of the root group ?
[01:34] <L1nuxRules> you can use sftp instead but apache will need to have permissions
[01:34] <urlin2u> surfnsound, updates are not available but any media or docs are.
[01:34] <fus10nx1> using SFTP isn't an option unfort.
[01:34] <L1nuxRules> you can upload using sftp but no sites will load
 JoFo, unfortunately I can't read French. ← They simply suggest to delete the line “default vesamenu.c32” in the file “syslinux.cfg”.
[01:35] <surfnsound> i can't find the docs that are currently on there
[01:35] <fus10nx1> well i created a file on the server it-self
[01:35] <fus10nx1> the test.php
[01:35] <surfnsound> i pulled everything else out by creating a virtual disk
[01:35] <fus10nx1> crated it using vi as the 'ubuntu' user
[01:35] <fus10nx1> and it works fined
[01:35] <fus10nx1> fine
[01:35] <urlin2u> JoFo, never have seen that error, hope that works.
[01:35] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 basically to run a web server for ftp you need to chroot every ftp user to a directory
[01:35] <JoFo> It seems that works. I don’t know where it comes from.
[01:36] <alan502> Hi, where can i find the graphics driver for my computer? (lspci: http://pastebin.com/2e4kPXkr)
[01:36] <urlin2u> surfnsound, I have only installed wubi as a training exsperience, where are the docs and what are they?
[01:36] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 your best bet is to setup an ftp server proftp maybe
[01:36] <surfnsound> just some open office files
[01:36] <fus10nx1> i'm using vsftpd
[01:36] <surfnsound> i had them saved to the desktop
[01:36] <L1nuxRules> thats ok not used it in a while though
[01:36] <urlin2u> surfnsound, where in the wubi?
[01:37] <fus10nx1> why can't i just make 'user1' part of the root group and be done w/ all this ?
[01:37] <urlin2u> surfnsound, open wubu , open home and then desktop.
[01:37] <urlin2u> wubi*
[01:38] <surfnsound> found it, thanks
[01:38] <L1nuxRules> you need to look into your vsftp config to fix the permissions on your website dirs if you configure it to use those directories then it will chroot them to the ftp user
[01:38] <urlin2u> surfnsound, cool it can be a challenge. :D
[01:38] <L1nuxRules> you will need to reinstall it though
[01:39] <surfnsound> no w to proper install
[01:39] <surfnsound> :)
[01:39] <alan502_> Hi, where can i find the graphics driver for my computer? (lspci: http://pastebin.com/2e4kPXkr)
[01:40] <fus10nx1> im confused, why cant my 'user1' just be the same exact as my root user?
[01:40] <fus10nx1> via the groups
[01:40] <urlin2u> alan502, anything not running?
[01:41] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 because that is insecure
[01:41] <Onionnion> Could my motherboard be corrupt if the FS is being mounted as ro as opposed to rw?
[01:41] <urlin2u>  unbuntu
[01:41] <alan502_> Hi, where can i find the graphics driver for my computer? (lspci: http://pastebin.com/2e4kPXkr)
[01:41] <alan502_> lenovo g470
[01:41] <fus10nx1> L1nuxRules: ok, let's forget about security at the moment except 777
[01:41] <fus10nx1> how can I make 'user1' part of teh root group ?
[01:41] <fus10nx1> so that i ca test this upload
[01:42] <jackassplus> anybody here good at macvlans
[01:42] <dhye> alan502: what kind of graphic card? ati? nvidia? or?
[01:42] <urlin2u>  alan502_ what makes you think you need a graphics driver?
[01:42] <L1nuxRules> create the user and add it to the root group
[01:42] <L1nuxRules> not adviseable though
[01:42] <alan502_> urlin2u: the resolution is not showing properly and the ubuntu effects are at the simplest
[01:43] <fus10nx1> usermod -g root user1
[01:43] <L1nuxRules> this is Linux main security the permissions
[01:43] <urlin2u> alan502_, have you updated and looked in additional drivers?
[01:44] <alan502_> urlin2u: i have ran the update manager, i have been googling for additional drivers but havent found anything I think is useful
[01:44] <fus10nx1> sudo usermod -g root user1
[01:44] <fus10nx1> even that didnt work
[01:44] <fus10nx1> blah
[01:44] <alan502_> so i came to the channel :)
[01:44] <Poeir> I'm trying to compile Banshee from source.  Part of it requires gtk-sharp-2.0 >= 2.12.10, but the version I have (on Lucid) is 2.12.9-4.  This page shows that Maverick has .10: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gtk-sharp  How can I install the 2.9.10 version on my Ubuntu install?
[01:44] <urlin2u> alan502_, there is a additional drivers i n the menu lok there.
[01:44] <urlin2u> look*
[01:44] <alan502_> urlin2u: up in the bar?
[01:44] <alan502_> urlin2u: no
[01:45] <Listener> 2 newbie questions: How come when I try to connect to a server with /connect I get 'can't connect, you are not an administrator' and 2) What use is it to have a list of servers under "IRC" (Xchat-gnome), but no way to enter one not in the list?
[01:45] <rypervenche> Poeir: You can apt-pin.
[01:45] <ubuntuguy> My swappiness value won't change in ubuntu, help?
[01:45] <L1nuxRules> hangon this isnt an ubuntu server? your using sudo?
[01:45] <urlin2u> alan502_, in the menu the are a number of desktops you have not identified yours.
 JoFo, never have seen that error, hope that works. ← I’ve just tried with Natty’s ISO file and there’s no problem at all. It seems that problem is specific to Lucid.
[01:45] <alan502_> urlin2u: what do you mean?
[01:46] <jackassplus> guess that's a no on the vlans then?
[01:46] <urlin2u> alan502_, what is the desktop your running ubuntu, unity,classic deskop, xubuntu, kde.
[01:47] <fus10nx1> L1nuxRules: THis is a ubuntu server
[01:47] <L1nuxRules> your using sudo though have you got root?
[01:47] <alan502_> urlin2u: gnome
[01:47] <fus10nx1> well ive got the account 'Ubuntu'
[01:48] <alan502_> urlin2u: im using 10.04
[01:48] <fus10nx1> which amazon set's up by default
[01:48] <urlin2u> alan502_, what distro ?
[01:48] <mamece2> ive been all day long trying to fix this and i just keep making everything worse.. this freakin mountall disconected plymouth
[01:48] <fus10nx1> there's no 'root' account when they set it up for you, Ubuntu is the account
[01:48] <fus10nx1> I can upload fine to /home/user1
[01:48] <fus10nx1> but i need to upload to /var/www
[01:48] <urlin2u> alan502_, in 10.04 in the admin area is a additional drivres look there.
[01:48] <fus10nx1> what if i just give ownership of /var/www to user1
[01:48] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 type this in your terminal mkdir /root/test
[01:49] <alan502_> urlin2u: ubuntu
[01:49] <alan502_> urlin2u: ubuntu 10.04, gnome desktop
[01:49] <fus10nx1> mkdir: cannot create directory `/root/test': Permission denied
[01:49] <mamece2> i get to a black screen when i try to boot ubuntu11, now NO ONE can help me.. #fail
[01:49] <rypervenche> fus10nx1: you have to use "sudo"
[01:49] <fus10nx1> ya
[01:49] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 you aint got enough permissions on the box to do anything than they allow you you will need to contact your host
[01:49] <fus10nx1> well if i just type sudo, ic an do everything
[01:50] <fus10nx1> no password required
[01:50] <rypervenche> fus10nx1: Then they have it set up that way.
[01:50] <alan502_> urlin2u: doesnt show anything
[01:50] <dr_willis> good old amazon changeing stuff for their ec2 stuff :)
[01:50] <L1nuxRules> so its like an ubuntu desktop ok
[01:50] <urlin2u> alan502_, you have a additional drivers you just have to find it, what you need may be there, or what is running now may support a different resolution but needs to be set up your kind of going in a backwards way here.
[01:50] <Listener> In fact, xchat completely ignores /connect... unless I disconnect from here first
[01:50] <L1nuxRules> try sudo mkdir /root/test
[01:50] <Escape_Artist> son of a bitch!  i remember why i quit linux back in the day
[01:50] <mamece2> how can i make bigger my ubuntu 11 partition? i had some unallocated amount of hardisk, now they are ext4
[01:51] <smw> dr_willis, how else ubuntu does not change much for their ec2 images.
[01:51] <Escape_Artist> i want to use IRC without mIRC - jeebus!
[01:51] <rypervenche> mamece2: You can use gparted while on a liveCD to change it.
[01:51] <Escape_Artist> i end up here.
[01:51] <fus10nx1>  sudo usermod -g root user1 -- if i sudo it, why wouldn't it work
[01:51] <rypervenche> Escape_Artist: You're not making any sense.
[01:52] <alan502_> urlin2u: the thing is, when i try to start normal or extra effects it doesnt work
[01:52] <Escape_Artist> as awful, unintuitive, and warlike as it was the first time
[01:52] <dr_willis> i have to wonder how oficially/much this channel is supposed to be supporting  The ec2 stuff.
[01:52] <L1nuxRules> try sudo mkdir /root/test want to make sure they arent restricting anything
[01:52] <mamece2> rypervenche i tried but i cannot get it more bigger, should i need to make them ext4 in order to merge, i see no merge option
[01:52] <fus10nx1> in /etc/group i have user1:x:1001:
[01:52] <L1nuxRules> or the enviroment is chrotted
[01:52] <L1nuxRules> chrooted*
[01:52] <smw> dr_willis, considering it is just another ubuntu install... why not?
[01:52] <urlin2u> alan502_, as far as resolution I can't help but sisnce that is your problem I would go from that route on this channel with using this command to isolate the graphic card.  lspci | grep VGA
[01:53] <rypervenche> mamece2: Oh, you want to merge...I'm not sure if that is possible or not. I would think it is...but I have never tried.
[01:53] <wcchandler> is there a 32bit openssl library package for 64 bit 11.04?
[01:53] <fus10nx1> this is a PITA !
[01:53] <mamece2> rypervenche i should merge partition in order to make them bigger, right?
[01:53] <Escape_Artist> one comment, then i'm out - research, you fucking pussies - you have google, and no huge books anymore to go through.  LOOK IT UP.  works 9 tenths of the time.  Taking my own advice now. Jeez.
[01:53] <smw> dr_willis, the ubuntu images are officially made by canonical and have very few changes.
[01:53] <L1nuxRules> go back to windows then and get your server pwned
[01:53] <urlin2u> alan502_, yes the effects don't work it may be that a later release has al the support yo need for the card download a Natty cd and see if they do on a live cd boot.
[01:54] <mamece2> escape_artist my problem is not in the forums, i just keep crashing more my ubuntu 11
[01:54] <Poeir> rypervenche: Alternate plan.  Upgrade to Maverick.  :)  Or whatever's after that, but it looks like I at least have to do Maverick as an intermediate step.
[01:54] <smw> dr_willis, they make sudo passwordless (better than the alternatives) and run a script at boot called cloud-init. All else is the same.
[01:54] <rypervenche> Poeir: Yes, it would be the quickest and easiest way by apt-pinning, as it takes care of the dependencies.
[01:54] <dr_willis> smw:  if you say so. ive never really looked into it.
[01:54] <urlin2u> mamece2, you can't merge in linux, does messing with compiz make these crashes?
[01:54] <rypervenche> Poeir: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[01:55] <dr_willis> smw:  i definatly seen others in here with strange ubuntu setups on other hosting providers. :) good to know ec2 is at least 'sane'
[01:55] <fus10nx1> L1nuxRules: so there's no way to do this ?
[01:55] <smw> dr_willis, and if people have cloud specific questions... there is always #ubuntu-cloud and ##aws :-)
[01:55] <Poeir> rypervenche: Yeah, I found that.  But when I started investigating doing it, I realized I was on a pretty old version of Ubuntu.
[01:55] <L1nuxRules> can you write to /root?
[01:55] <L1nuxRules> using sudo?
[01:55] <fus10nx1> if i type 'sudo'
[01:55] <fus10nx1> ya
[01:56] <L1nuxRules> yeah so you need to use sudo for everything
[01:56] <dr_willis> it may be time to learn some ubuntu/linux basics :)
[01:56] <L1nuxRules> +1
[01:56] <syrius> UBUNTU school!
[01:56] <edwardthefma> hello all
[01:56] <smw> dr_willis, yeah. ec2 has its quirks though. On first boot ubuntu fetches the ssh public key for the root account (named ubuntu with sudo NOPASS).
[01:56] <mamece2> anyone knows about mount all disconnect plymouth? i did someting i saw in a forum and now i cant even get to CLI, just black screen
[01:56] <dr_willis> SchoolBuntu
[01:56] <fus10nx1> Smw: thats correct
[01:56] <syrius> edubuntu
[01:57]  * edwardthefma is looking for some 1 who knows how to use inadyn
[01:57] <smw> dr_willis, it then sets hostname and that is pretty much it.
[01:57] <urlin2u> mamece2, you have only ubuntu installed and what release?
[01:57] <michael_p> for 3gb of ram whats the recomend swap partion
[01:57] <dr_willis> mamece2:  at the grub menu, you could hit 'e' to edit the lines and replace 'quiet splash' with text, and get to  the console that way normally.
[01:57] <L1nuxRules> I use proper ssh and keys not anything like ec2
[01:57] <bsmith0931> i have my emails as plain text, how do i combine them into an mbox file, or something i can put into an email client and read that way?
[01:58] <mamece2> i have unbuntu 11 and ubuntu 10 (BT5) , now im in ubuntu 10 cuz i cant get to ubuntu 11 GUI
[01:58] <michael_p> hits a 1gb now
[01:58]  * edwardthefma is looking for some 1 who knows how to use inadyn
[01:58] <michael_p> its at 1gb now
[01:58] <smw> L1nuxRules, not sure how that relates. lol
[01:58] <fus10nx1> so why not just take ownership of /var/www
[01:58] <fus10nx1> and make the owner user1
[01:58] <syrius> one gigabyte should be fine michael_p or half that you really don't need swap if you have that much ram swap was more back when ram wasn't that much in size
[01:58] <urlin2u> mamece2, what is the gpu?
[01:58] <L1nuxRules> er ?  On first boot ubuntu fetches the ssh public key for the root account (named ubuntu with sudo NOPASS).
[01:59] <urlin2u> mamece2, and post that link to the plymouth
[01:59] <fus10nx1> that worked
[01:59] <fus10nx1> sudo chown user1 /var/www
[01:59] <fus10nx1> done.
[01:59] <fus10nx1> that was easy
[01:59] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 I didnt advise you that as your server is now insecure
[01:59] <syrius> I have 1 gigabyte ram and 1 gigabyte swap and I never seen my swap being used in the monitor manager michael_p
[01:59] <L1nuxRules> good look when it gets hacked
[02:00] <fus10nx1> ah
[02:00] <L1nuxRules> whats your IP?
[02:00] <fus10nx1> but now that i posted there, public can't get to it
[02:00] <edwardthefma> any 1 know how to use inadyn
[02:01] <L1nuxRules> the os is ok but your websites arent secure and if your ftp is exploited then could then compromise some of the os
[02:01] <fus10nx1> that's a pain, ill have to chmod each and every file
[02:01] <fus10nx1> ooph
[02:01] <syrius> secure!
[02:02] <L1nuxRules> basically instead of finding the easy setup just aim for the proper setup
[02:02] <fus10nx1> wrell thats what i was trying to do
[02:02] <fus10nx1> but it didnt seem like it'd be possible
[02:02] <fus10nx1> so i can now upload as user1
[02:02] <L1nuxRules> you want a proper server you need root
[02:02] <fus10nx1> but i need it to set the permissins properly
[02:02] <fus10nx1> well thats not possible w/ amazon cloud and other people are using this as FTP server so i must be missing something
[02:03] <L1nuxRules> so they dont give you a front end or a control panel?
[02:03] <fus10nx1> i have an idea, i can just write a script that runs every minute that chmod all files in /var/www/*.*
[02:03] <edwardthefma> any 1 know how to use inadyn
[02:03] <fus10nx1> to 777
[02:03] <fus10nx1> no
[02:03] <fus10nx1> unfort. not
[02:03] <FloodBot1> fus10nx1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[02:04] <Shwaiil> Q: How can I update software ? Thanks
[02:04] <L1nuxRules> its nothing to do with permissions anyway you need to learn how to config vsftpd
[02:04] <fus10nx1> its just a bit of a pain how complicated this simple thing should be
[02:04] <urlin2u> Shwaiil, sudo apt-get update
[02:04] <Gallo> wassup people...
[02:04] <Gallo> anyone have wicd working correctly ...
[02:04] <Shwaiil> urlin2u,  tks for looking. sudo apt-get update program_name ?
[02:04] <urlin2u> Shwaiil, the sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:04] <fus10nx1> ah, i see
[02:04] <fus10nx1> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/creating-vsftpd-full-permission-user-to-var-www-html-397600/
[02:04] <fus10nx1> so maybe i should give ownership to /var/www back to root haha
[02:05] <L1nuxRules> sudo aptitude upgrade > apt-get upgrade
[02:05] <urlin2u> Shwaiil, if a particular ap sudo apt-get install "app"
[02:05] <Shwaiil> urlin2u, for updateing > sudo apt-get update rabbitSVN ? like this ?
[02:05] <L1nuxRules> yes give it back to root
[02:06] <fus10nx1> i do
[02:06] <L1nuxRules> now you need to find out how to add users to vsftp
[02:06] <urlin2u> Shwaiil, update just looks for apps needing update install is for a exact package.
[02:06] <L1nuxRules> man vsftp
[02:07] <Shwaiil> urlin2u, I see. I'm having a problem with a program, this is Rabbit SVN and it can be a bug from what I've been reading
[02:07] <Gallo> can anyone help with wicd issue, trying to get past the bad password problem
[02:07] <Shwaiil> so, I would like to see If I could get a update or something
[02:08] <fus10nx1> sec
[02:08] <urlin2u> Shwaiil, this, http://www.rabbitvcs.org/
[02:08] <knightvoid> anyone familiar with this message after installing ubuntu "Its seems that you do not have the hardware required to run unity. Please choose ubuntu classic at the login screen and you will be using the traditional environment."
[02:09] <urlin2u> Gallo, wicd may say that logout and back in it should work ig=f the password is correct.
[02:09] <cheako> Hello, I've forgot the email address I used for my launchpad account...  Can I login via username (mmestnik)?
[02:09] <x010101> how do I send through control to screen?
[02:09] <x010101> I need to send control S to program, but control S is caught by screen
[02:09] <Shwaiil> urlin2u,  what happens if I install it again ?
[02:10] <urlin2u> knightvoid, use classic update and look in additional drivers for the graphics card.
[02:10] <fus10nx1> wow
[02:10] <fus10nx1> that simple
[02:10] <knightvoid> thanks urlin2u
[02:10] <rajmahendra> I have installed Ubuntu 11.4 resently i feel that some video application is not running properly how can i configure the VGA settings in ubuntu 11.4 please help
[02:10] <urlin2u> Shwaiil, is that the correct ap your talking about, I see in the link that there is a ppa.
[02:10] <Gallo> well I had it working fine, asnd the pw is correct but it broke somehow.....other machines are using that pw fine, but wicd keeps saying bad password??
[02:10] <Shwaiil> urlin2u,  yes this one
[02:11] <rajmahendra> I am trying to run Secondlife on Ubuntu 11.4 each time i start the application it crashes.
[02:12] <fus10nx1> ok
[02:12] <fus10nx1> now im so fucking confused haha
[02:12] <L1nuxRules> yeah it was that simple you did it so quick :)
[02:12] <urlin2u> Shwaiil, never used it so not sure here is the ppa.  https://launchpad.net/~rabbitvcs/+archive/ppa
[02:13] <cheako> Once I login I just want to start a question or feature request: http://bit.ly/oKZvDN
[02:13] <rajmahendra> I have intel VGA card on my laptop and graphic applicaiotn are not running. anyone help me ?
[02:13] <Gallo> everything looks right in the wicd/wireless-settings.conf file as well urlin2u, so kinda stuck here
[02:13] <urlin2u> Gallo, did you logout then back in?
[02:13] <fus10nx1> appears you hasve to use 'virtual users'
[02:14] <cheako> Can some one lookup the email address of a launchpad user for me?  uid mmestnik  or send an email to me/him.
[02:14] <Gallo> yeah, I few times
[02:14] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 basically you need to let vsftp own those dirs as youve changed and modified perms reinstall it
[02:14] <L1nuxRules> then you will need to find out how to add users to it but thats beyond this channel
[02:14] <urlin2u> Gallo, so network-manager does not work?
[02:14] <fus10nx1> running sudo apt-get remove vsftpd
[02:14] <fus10nx1> maybe i need to reinstall apache as well
[02:15] <L1nuxRules> no need for apache
[02:15] <fus10nx1> ok
[02:15] <urlin2u> Gallo, this is a regular install right, not a wubi, or virtual, and you know the wifi card?
[02:15] <Gallo> couldn't get it to work for me, thats why i tried wicd, that worked a while then broke
[02:15] <fus10nx1> running 'sudo apt-get install vsftpd'
[02:15] <fus10nx1> Adding user ftp to group ftp
[02:15] <Gallo> yeah on hhd
[02:15] <Gallo> hd
[02:15] <urlin2u> Gallo, what s the wifi card?
[02:16] <urlin2u> is
[02:16] <L1nuxRules> I dont need the stdout from apt
[02:16] <Gallo> intel pro/wireless 4965agn
[02:16] <L1nuxRules> unless it errors
[02:16] <Gallo> using the iwl4965 driver
[02:17] <fus10nx1> sorry
[02:17] <fus10nx1> ok
[02:17] <fus10nx1> installed
[02:17] <L1nuxRules> would be stderr then :)
[02:17] <fus10nx1> set it up according to http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-vsftpd-ftp-service-server/
[02:18] <Gallo> urlin2u, all was working then broke, so, i don't think it's a driver issue....but hey I'm a noob @ it so
[02:18] <L1nuxRules> test your port for response telnet to it or use nmap
[02:18] <fus10nx1> its working
[02:18] <fus10nx1> i can FTP in
[02:18] <L1nuxRules> cool
[02:18] <fus10nx1> and it crated /var in /home/user1
[02:19] <fus10nx1> but if i SSH in and try to go to /var in /home/user1, i get permission denied
[02:19] <fus10nx1> and if i try to get to that file from the web, it doesn't work
[02:19] <L1nuxRules> thats because user1 is /nologin
[02:19] <L1nuxRules> secure
[02:19] <urlin2u> Gallo, supposed to work out of the box, network manager should work, and wicd, I suspect your just setting it up wrong, are you trying a static IP or just DHCP?
[02:19] <fus10nx1> ah, OK
[02:19] <L1nuxRules> ftp users cant ssh
[02:19] <fus10nx1> well I'm SSH'd in as Ubuntu
[02:19] <fus10nx1> not as user1
[02:19] <Gallo> static
[02:19] <fus10nx1> user1 can ssh in also, just so u know
[02:20] <fus10nx1> maybe i should just crated a whole new user
[02:20] <Gallo> it did work very short time though
[02:20] <L1nuxRules> youve locked your ssh login user from those dirs
[02:20] <fus10nx1> ah, o
[02:20] <fus10nx1> ok
[02:20] <fus10nx1> is that gonna be a problem?
[02:20] <urlin2u> Gallo, are you trying a static IP or just DHCP?
[02:20] <L1nuxRules> not unless you nedd ssh access to them
[02:20] <fus10nx1> nah
[02:20] <fus10nx1> no need
[02:20] <Gallo> static
[02:21] <Gallo> it did work very short time though
[02:21] <rajmahendra> Anyone help me for my graphic settings ?
[02:21] <fus10nx1> but i do need the public to be able to access these files i.e. when they go to http://x.x.x.x/whateverFile they can access it
[02:21] <Gallo> then quit working
[02:21] <urlin2u> Gallo, you using a router?
[02:21] <Gallo> yeah, modem/router
[02:21] <rajmahendra>  xorg.conf file is missing on my Ubuntu 11.4 laptop
[02:22] <Gallo> have other machines with same pw getting on fine wireless
[02:22] <L1nuxRules> and this way your restricted to ftp so everything web site wise will work because it doesent have the wrong permissions it would if you created via ssh
[02:22] <urlin2u> Gallo, I use OPendns and set that up in the router rather then the network manager you can set the router to do that I belive.
[02:22] <fus10nx1> L1nuxRules: ok, so I uploaded a file....but i cant get to it from a web browser
[02:22] <fus10nx1> just says 'not found' -- so i'm missing a step somewhere
[02:22] <L1nuxRules> they will be publicly accessible as long as apache is configd to serve them
[02:23] <fus10nx1> so apache conf needs to look at /home/user1/var/www
[02:23] <Gallo> urlin2u can i pm you a sec?
[02:23] <rajmahendra> linux4u, i have some issue in graphis can you please help me
[02:23] <urlin2u> Gallo, wont help this is not a area of expertise really.
[02:23] <IvanBliminse> anyone here a grub2 expert?.. I have an issue with grub 2 not seeing a xp partition...
[02:23] <L1nuxRules> not like that it needs to be setup for each domain
[02:24] <fus10nx1> I only have 1 domain
[02:24] <urlin2u> IvanBliminse, can you run a script for me?
[02:24] <Gallo> lol, cool....better then being a noob though....sure you know more  he he
[02:24] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, how do you mean
[02:24] <fus10nx1> so should i have a second Apache install on a different listen port or something? so confused at this point
[02:24] <L1nuxRules> you still need to point the domain to the domain dir
[02:24] <urlin2u> IvanBliminse, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/  post the RESULTS.txt in  ap atebin
[02:24] <L1nuxRules> apache has a default dir
[02:24] <urlin2u> pastebin*
[02:24] <cheako> fus10nx1: You should make a dedicated FTP user for managing the site content with /var... as it's home folder.
[02:24] <fus10nx1> so just change that dir and i should be good to go
[02:25] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, oh okay, hold on
[02:25] <fus10nx1> thats what ive been trying to do
[02:25] <urlin2u> IvanBliminse, http://paste.ubuntu.com/  cool
[02:25] <fus10nx1> cheako: thats what ive been trying to do
[02:26] <rajmahendra> can anyone help me, i am using Intel VGA card and my ubuntu 11.4 system is not recoginizng the VGA
[02:26] <cheako> fus10nx1: What FTPd?
[02:26] <fus10nx1> vsftp
[02:26] <fus10nx1> perhaps i should use another FTP daemon that's more integrated
[02:27] <L1nuxRules> no you need to create a config file in the ubuntu equivalent of conf.d/
[02:27] <urlin2u> rajmahendra, run this for the exact card info lspci | grep VGA
[02:27] <Gallo> urlin2u, hmm note sure how to use OPendns
[02:27] <fus10nx1> apache2.conf ?
[02:27] <L1nuxRules> nothing to do with ftp you need to configure your web server now
[02:27] <zykotick9_> rajmahendra honestly with Intel graphics, the autodetected settings are ususally what you want.  xorg.conf isn't created by default anymore, do you have specific knowledge of what you want to put in there to fix the issue?  If not, creating one probably won't help (it's possible to generate one if you need one however).
[02:28] <urlin2u> Gallo, not saying you should just an example.
[02:28] <L1nuxRules> this is not os specific so you need to ask in web host or the ubuntu server channels
[02:28] <Gallo> aight
[02:29] <GeekyAdam> reload
[02:29] <GeekyAdam> whoops
[02:29] <knightvoid>  lspci | grep VGA  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[02:29] <zykotick9_> rajmahendra, i'm not really sure of the graphics requirements for second life, but I know openarena doesn't exactly fly on my intel graphics on my netbook.
[02:29] <fus10nx1> this is so damn confusing
[02:29] <Gallo> is anyone using wicd ?
[02:29] <fus10nx1> i dont understand where the problem is
[02:29] <knightvoid> anyone familiar with this driver
[02:29] <rajmahendra> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[02:29] <fus10nx1> can't i just tell apache to look at /home/user1/var/www ?
[02:30] <rajmahendra> urlin2u, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[02:30] <L1nuxRules> well you could point the default directory to there yes
[02:30] <urlin2u> rajmahendra, did yo see zykotick9_ post?
[02:30] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, http://paste.ubuntu.com/687305/
[02:30] <L1nuxRules> but thats a bad habit and what if you want to add further domains
[02:30] <rajmahendra> urlin2u, how to find it ?
[02:30] <fus10nx1> i dont
[02:30] <fus10nx1> just this 1
[02:30] <fus10nx1> literally just this 1
[02:31] <fus10nx1> so ill do it that way, what file do i need to edit for that ? /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
[02:31] <ghostcart> would anyoen happen to know where I could find cint?
[02:31] <L1nuxRules> then upload all your content to the apache default directory I only know what it is for red hat based servers though sorry
[02:32] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, I had an Windows 7 partition, and an ubuntu 11.04 partition, i am trying to install a windows xp partition as well. I carved off 20GB, told windows XP installer to use it. On restart it trashed grub2, which after i reinstalled it wont load windows 7 anymore, and doesn't even see the xp partition
[02:32] <rajmahendra> zykotick9_, last time someoen created it for me and it worked but i dont know what goes inside that file.
[02:32] <urlin2u> IvanBliminse, so you have XP and vista, the XP boot should be in the vista boot gui.
[02:32] <cheako> fus10nx1: This looks overly complex: http://linuxforfun.net/2008/04/05/vsftpd-virtual-users/  My suggestion is to use "adduser --home /var/www webmaster"
[02:32] <rajmahendra> zykotick9_, i see some graphic applicaiotn is not running in startup most of the site says check the vga settings.
[02:32] <zykotick9_> rajmahendra, and is it possible to contact that someone again, to find out?
[02:32] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, actually, i have 7, xp, and ubuntu.. or should have rather.. it never got to the install part of xp.. it just copied the files to the harddrive
[02:33] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, i would normally load win 7, download EasyBCD, add XP, and reboot, but i get the error "A Disc Read Error Occurred, Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart"...
[02:34] <fus10nx1> we mayt have just solved it by simply pointing Apache to the home dir
[02:34] <fus10nx1> but i cant seem to find it in apache2.conf
[02:34] <rajmahendra> usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d folder also not created on my system
[02:34] <fus10nx1> where's the httpd.conf file for apache2 on linux ?
[02:34] <FFForever> How can I clear my dns cache?
[02:35] <FFForever> fus10nx1, /etc/apache2/httpd.conf?
[02:35] <L1nuxRules> /etc/apache2/apache2.conf no thats not the file you want to modify the contents to pastebin would be useful so I can see where apache is looking for cofigs though
[02:35] <fus10nx1> no httpd.conf file in /etc/apache2
[02:35] <FFForever> fus10nx1, I have an httpd.conf in there (ubuntu 11.04)
[02:36] <urlin2u> IvanBliminse,  the sda1 boot should be this yours is different to be honest #windows will be better here.   /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe
[02:36] <urlin2u>                        /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM
[02:36] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, so I suppose i need to reinstall the windows MBR.. that's whats giving me the issues?
[02:36] <fus10nx1> weird
[02:36] <L1nuxRules> httpd.conf is anything other than debian based then its apache2
[02:36] <fus10nx1> maybe its the way it got installed
[02:36] <Gumby> hi all.  I am trying to figure out what is using up all my ram.  I have 8GB and almost all of it is in use but top isnt showing me that anything is using an excessive amount of memory. Can anyone suggest something other than top to use?
[02:36] <aauthor> Does Ubuntu 10.04 LTS support PHP 5.3+?
[02:36] <fus10nx1> im sorry, i do have it, but it's empty
[02:36] <urlin2u> IvanBliminse, /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe
[02:36] <urlin2u>                        /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM
[02:36] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, I sent that last message at the same time you sent yours... so what do I need to change?
[02:36] <FFForever> fus10nx1, What are you trying to change?
[02:37] <L1nuxRules> ls your /etc/apache2 dir
[02:37] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, or how do I change it?
[02:37] <fus10nx1> where it look for files by default
[02:37] <fus10nx1> instead of /var/www
[02:37] <urlin2u> IvanBliminse, is what should be there, that is a bit beyond me and a windows problem,
[02:37] <fus10nx1> i want it to point to /home/user1/var/www
[02:37] <FFForever> fus10nx1, Edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[02:37] <Gallo> urlin2u, hey maybe you can help with this... "iwconfig wlan0 essid "<name_of_router>" key "<encryption_key>" I get Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8b2a)  can figure what I'm doing wrong..
[02:37] <fus10nx1> ah
[02:37] <fus10nx1> yes
[02:37] <fus10nx1> this is it
[02:38] <L1nuxRules> I already told you anyway upload your website to the apache default directory you dont need to change any configs then
[02:38] <urlin2u> Gallo, wireless problems I have never had so I know little really.
[02:38] <L1nuxRules> /var/www/default
[02:38] <fus10nx1> and how do i restart apache ? sudo /etc/init.d/httpd restart ?
[02:38] <FFForever> L1nuxRules, He said he didn't want the default in /var/www anymore
[02:38] <FFForever> fus10nx1, sudo service apache2 restart
[02:38] <Gallo> lol, wish I had that problem....he he
[02:38] <L1nuxRules> ah ok missed that
[02:38] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, how come windows xp shows up 3 times in my results??
[02:39] <FFForever> Any way to refresh my local dns cache?
[02:39] <fus10nx1> got it
[02:39] <fus10nx1> 1 sec
[02:39] <cheako> Can some one lookup the email address of a launchpad user for me?  uid mmestnik or send an email to me/him.
[02:39] <urlin2u> IvanBliminse, DUDE this is a windows problem your on the wrong channel go to #windows.
[02:40] <fus10nx1> BLAH
[02:40] <IvanBliminse> urlin2u, alright thanks for your help
[02:40] <fus10nx1> forbidden
[02:40] <fus10nx1> !@$#
[02:40] <Gallo> can anyone help with "iwconfig wlan0 essid "<name_of_router>" key "<encryption_key>" I get Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8b2a)  can't figure what I'm doing wrong ?
[02:40] <L1nuxRules> theres no need to /flushdns like windows
[02:40] <urlin2u> IvanBliminse, excellent help there in this arae.
[02:40] <urlin2u> area
[02:40] <Optimus55> How do I compile c code in the command link that includes other *.c files in the headers?
[02:40] <fus10nx1> when i upload to /home/user1/var/www it only posts it there as -rw------
[02:40] <Optimus55> line*
[02:40] <fus10nx1> maybe i need to change something else in the vsftpd config
[02:41] <FFForever> L1nuxRules, Any idea why on Linux my dns still shows the old record, but windows shows the correct new record?
[02:41] <L1nuxRules> thats all the ftp user can set but you can chmod that
[02:41] <FFForever> (I'm using the same dns servers and dig on linux for testing)
[02:41] <fus10nx1> but i dont want to have to chmod each time a new file is uploaded
[02:41] <L1nuxRules> dns is cached and how you mean they show different on lookups?
[02:41] <fus10nx1> i want all files to be 755 or 777, whatever the public can download
[02:42] <Optimus55> I have a file main.c that i'm trying to compile but it needs to find another file server.c to complete. Any ideas to link them?
[02:42] <cheako> fus10nx1: Yeah, doing maintanace of the /var/www folder isn't well suted over FTP.  you'r going to have to chmod and perhaps chown(if possible) things.
[02:42] <L1nuxRules> fus10n0x1 I will set your server up for a fee?
[02:43] <fus10nx1> wahoo !
[02:43] <fus10nx1> ket;s try
[02:43] <cheako> come to link of it: www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh  This would be the account to use... set a password for it :(
[02:43] <fus10nx1> think i go tit
[02:43] <fus10nx1> chmod 777 foldername -R
[02:43] <kasi> does anyone use wmctrl to switch workspaces from the command line? somehow it doesn't work on natty for me. Try this: 'wmctrl -o 2,2' and you should be on your workspace with that x,y coordinates
[02:43] <fus10nx1> just a sec
[02:43] <ghostcart> So, does anyone know a place I can install cint from?
[02:43] <cheako> That's where modifying PAM to use a virtual user database for vsftp is a good idea!
[02:44] <fus10nx1> damn
[02:44] <fus10nx1> that didnt work
[02:44] <fus10nx1> it set it once
[02:44] <fus10nx1> how can i make it permanent
[02:44] <FloodBot1> fus10nx1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:45] <L1nuxRules> learn the unix/linux basics
[02:45] <fus10nx1> so any time i put something in /home/user1/var/www it always gets 777
[02:45] <fus10nx1> this is my last step and this thing is doe
[02:45] <fus10nx1> done
[02:45] <fus10nx1> chown instead if chmod ?
[02:45] <Braber01> are there any font pacages for unicode fonts for say writeing apl programs?
[02:45] <L1nuxRules> you would break vsftp then
[02:46] <Braber01> or just unicode fonts in genral
[02:46] <fus10nx1> right
[02:46] <fus10nx1> ugh
[02:46] <fus10nx1> wtf
[02:46] <Braber01> *font packages
[02:46] <fus10nx1> i can upload files to teh dir I want, just the public can't see them
[02:46] <fus10nx1> so close but yet so far !
[02:46] <L1nuxRules> like I said not being funny but learn the Linux basics
[02:46] <fus10nx1> I just need /home/user1/var/www to always set the files as 777
[02:46] <fus10nx1> im trying to do exactly that
[02:47] <fus10nx1> but it doesnt seem that chmod is the right command i want
[02:48] <L1nuxRules> why do you want 777 though as thats insecure for script injections
[02:48] <fus10nx1> that seems to modify files after they are created and in place, not going forward i.e. i would have to run that command each time a file is uploaded, as where i want the permissions of the files to be set automatically
[02:48] <fus10nx1> or 755
[02:48] <L1nuxRules> chmod 755 is a ll you need whats the error again?
[02:49] <fus10nx1> when i upload something as user1
[02:49] <fus10nx1> let's say whatever.zip
[02:49] <fus10nx1> then from my broweser I go to www.1234.com/whatever.zip - i get permission denied
[02:49] <fus10nx1> 403 forbidden
[02:49] <fus10nx1> because after the file is uploaded via FTP, its set as 600
[02:49] <fus10nx1> not 755
[02:49] <L1nuxRules> thats your directory permissions its denied because theres no default index
[02:50] <fus10nx1> how do I set the default inded
[02:50] <fus10nx1> or is this using an .htaccess or something /
[02:50] <L1nuxRules> easiest way make an index.html that meta refreshes to the zip
[02:50] <fus10nx1> that cant be right
[02:51] <fus10nx1> isnt it a linux issue?
[02:51] <fus10nx1> that its setting the files to 600
[02:51] <L1nuxRules> otherwise allow directory listing in apache (insecurish)
[02:51] <austinbv> What shell do most people use, i have been looking at zsh, but all posts about it are from lik 08.
[02:51] <L1nuxRules> no its a user issue
[02:51] <Gumby> check to see you are also hitting the right directory by looking at the logfiel
[02:51] <fus10nx1> if i do 'chmod -r 755 /home/user1/var/www' then it works
[02:51] <fus10nx1> but i dont want to have to issue a command each time i upload a file, ya know ?
[02:51] <fus10nx1> i want all files to default to 755
[02:52] <fus10nx1> when uploaded, like any other web server does i.e. godaddy
[02:52] <L1nuxRules> they do where there being served by apache
[02:52] <zykotick9_> kasi, if you are using Unity and/or Compiz it makes sense that wmctrl doesn't work.  It doesn't support compiz (worked as expected with metacity however) http://tomas.styblo.name/wmctrl/ for list of supported.  It was able to move to switch to screen 0 from several commands with Compiz on my box.
[02:52] <L1nuxRules> your setting dirs that shouldnt be
[02:52] <fus10nx1> its not an apache issue, its a user issue, correct ?
[02:52] <L1nuxRules> sorry your not experienced enough for me to give you any more advice
[02:52] <fus10nx1> im trying to figure it out man
[02:52] <Gumby> fus10nx1: its a permissions issue
[02:53] <kasi> zykotick9_, oh, I use the standard ubuntu with compiz
[02:53] <Gumby> its not a "user" issue
[02:53] <kasi> zykotick9_, is there something like wmctrl for compiz?
[02:53] <anonop05> how do i restore ubuntu grub menu after installing another linux distro?
[02:53] <fus10nx1> so why cant I perm. set the permissions on /home/user1/var/www to 755 and all the sub dir's after that as well
[02:53] <L1nuxRules> gumby by user i meant the admin
[02:54] <Gumby> L1nuxRules: then don't help if you are just going to degrade a person for their lack of knowledge.  Educate
[02:54] <Gredeu> i've seen logs of ssh into machine despite the fact that i've never installed that package
[02:54] <L1nuxRules> Gumby I have tried
[02:54] <fus10nx1> I'm just trying to understand the issue
[02:54] <fus10nx1> so I can read about how to fix it, but i dont get the issue
[02:54] <zykotick9_> kasi, i've never even seen wmctrl before, i've kinda always wanted to be able to do that from cli/script/shortcut actually :)  i owe you a big thanks.  But i certainly don't know a compiz alternative ;)
[02:54] <qin> Gredeu: That logs?
[02:55] <qin> *What
[02:55] <Gredeu> router logs
[02:55] <Gredeu> never turned the service on
[02:55] <fus10nx1> end goal -- how can I have a file default to 755 when i upload it like any other normal web server
[02:55] <qin> Gredeu: Is it: /var/log/auth.log ?
[02:55] <Gredeu> dont' recall
[02:56] <L1nuxRules> Gumby this is also advising how to do things and making a web server insecure
[02:56] <qin> Gredeu: sudo service ssh status; sudo netstat -tulp (to be sure)
[02:56] <Gumby> fus10nx1: that is not what you want as it is insecure.  YOu want to set up the proper permissions
[02:56] <Gredeu> i an certain there was an ssh login despite the service never turned on
[02:57] <Gumby> fus10nx1: you should try adding www-data user to the user's account where the files reside
[02:57] <fus10nx1> OK....so where do I start? What am I missing? it seems so close but so far
[02:57] <fus10nx1> is www-data a user ?
[02:57] <Gumby> apache is telling you that it doesn't have permission to access the file
[02:57] <L1nuxRules> I advised learning the basics to prevent insecurities, you can ask advice but can be dangerous
[02:57] <Gumby> so, lets give it permissions
[02:57] <qin> Gredeu: How can you be? /var/log/auth.log contains all logins, also last and lastlog
[02:58] <Gredeu> it was in my router, not my computer
[02:58] <fus10nx1> Gumby: OK, when you say 'apache' you mean apache as a user or the software ?
[02:58] <Gredeu> offtopic
[02:58] <Gumby> apache as in the web server
[02:58] <fus10nx1> gotcha
[02:58] <L1nuxRules> this will break vsftp fus10nx1 Gumby
[02:58] <fus10nx1> ok so i need to chmod apache ?
[02:58] <Gumby> fus10nx1: if you do a ps aux |grep apache you'll notice it runs as the www-data user
[02:59] <fus10nx1> typ
[02:59] <fus10nx1> yup*
[02:59] <L1nuxRules> oh dear stop advising Gumby
[02:59] <fus10nx1> so www-data is a user, got it
[02:59] <qin> Gredeu: ISP or someone else. Reconfigure router (after factory reset - to be sure)
[02:59] <Gumby> L1nuxRules: why?
[03:00] <L1nuxRules> sorry Im red hat based carry on
[03:01] <Gumby> fus10nx1: have a look at /etc/group  these are your permissions "groups"
[03:01] <fus10nx1> yup
[03:01] <fus10nx1> www-data:x:33:
[03:02] <fus10nx1> user1:x:1001:
[03:02] <Gumby> read up on how to add a user to a group
[03:02] <fus10nx1> so i want to add user1 to www-data group ?
[03:02] <L1nuxRules> thing is the dirs are owned by the ftp daemon
[03:02] <L1nuxRules> vsftp
[03:02] <Gumby> also read up on what the file permissions of a file/directory mean http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html
[03:03] <L1nuxRules> its nothing to do with ownership just file permissions
[03:03] <Gumby> fus10nx1: depends on where the files are.  if you want to add permissions to a file/directory in a users folder then you'd need to add www-data to that users group
[03:04] <zykotick9_> fus10nx1, is it user1 that you want in www-data group?  If so the command "sudo usermod -aG www-data user1" should add user1 to the www-data group, using append as not to remove any groups (the -a is important)
[03:04] <Gumby> L1nuxRules: if www-data has read permissions then its access would not be denied
[03:05] <fus10nx1> didnt work
[03:05] <fus10nx1> damn
[03:05] <fus10nx1> www-data:x:33:user1
[03:05] <zykotick9_> fus10nx1, FTI you need to logout/login for it to apply
[03:05] <fus10nx1> but still get permission denied
[03:05] <fus10nx1> ah 1 sec
[03:05] <zykotick9_> s/FTI/FYI
[03:05] <L1nuxRules> what you trying to execute if its a script it has to have global execution permissions
[03:05] <Gumby> www-data:x:33:user1  <--- backwards
[03:05] <kasi> zykotick9_, you might want to look into the xdotool as well, however, it doesn't seem to support large desktops like you have with compiz
[03:05] <Gumby> user1:x:33:www-data
[03:05] <Gumby> well, that userid will be different
[03:06] <zykotick9_> kasi, thanks :)
[03:06] <fus10nx1> oh
[03:06] <fus10nx1> i have it backwards
[03:06] <Gumby> and logging out is not necessary
[03:06] <Gumby> not in this case
[03:06] <fus10nx1> "sudo usermod -aG user1 www-data NOT  "sudo usermod -aG www-data user1
[03:07] <fus10nx1> so now how do i remove user1 from www-data haha
[03:07]  * fus10nx1 googles
[03:07] <Gumby> sudo nano -w /etc/group
[03:07] <Gumby> ;)
[03:07] <fus10nx1> ah
[03:07] <zykotick9_> fus10nx1, that's wrong!  YOU have it backwards
[03:08] <L1nuxRules> fus10nx1 I could hack your server within a day :) Gumby yours also
[03:08] <fus10nx1> usermod -G sales tom
[03:08] <fus10nx1> errr
[03:08] <Gumby> L1nuxRules: good for you
[03:08] <L1nuxRules> dont advise noobs how to insecure stuff ffs
[03:09] <fus10nx1> sudo usermod -aG user1 www-data
[03:09] <fus10nx1> so that should do it
[03:09] <zykotick9_> L1nuxRules, those sorts of commends don't belong here, tread carefully.
[03:09] <zykotick9_> s/commends/comments/
[03:09] <fus10nx1> user1:x:1001:www-data
[03:09] <Gallo> can someone help..."iwconfig wlan0 essid "<name_of_router>" key "<encryption_key>" I get Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8b2a)  can"t figure what I'm doing wrong.. wicd also gives me bad password error even though it's corret...3 other machines are using same pw
[03:09] <fus10nx1> nope still only giving it 600
[03:09] <fus10nx1> damn
[03:09] <treydogg> HACKER WAR!!!! LOL
[03:10] <L1nuxRules> zykotick9_ sorry but people shouldnt advise how to break stuff
[03:10] <Gumby> L1nuxRules: how is adding a user to a group that would normally have read access to a web site anyhow being insecure?
[03:10] <treydogg> gallo:  what kernel?
[03:10] <ubun> Hey guys...help please. if i want to upgrade video card, do i have to do anythingt with drivers first???
[03:10] <L1nuxRules> Gumby its not but the way he has been going about it is
[03:10] <treydogg> ubun: what kinda card?
[03:11] <Gumby> L1nuxRules: then why are you telling people to not advise him of doing insecure stuff when nobody has
[03:11] <fus10nx1> I've done it as the instructions said, thats all
[03:11] <Gallo> intel pro/wireless 4965agn
[03:11] <treydogg> f it.. jsut chmod 755 all of it!! :)  JK
[03:11] <Gallo> iwl4965 driver
[03:11] <L1nuxRules> Gumby how long have you been reading what hes been asking?
[03:11] <fus10nx1> it should be simple what im trying to do
[03:11] <ubun> treydogg: im going from ati x300, to a nvidia gforce8400
[03:11] <Gallo> was working ok with wicd then broke
[03:11] <zykotick9_> L1nuxRules, i agree (infact i believe editing groups file by hand is also probably a bad idea, but i think someone is suggesting it right now).  I believe in pointing errors out as well (for doing that kudos).  But the "i could hack you" and using "noobs" is non-#ubuntu policy.
[03:12] <Gumby> fus10nx1: it is, don't confuse your lack of knowledge with something being hard
[03:12] <fus10nx1> fair enough
[03:12] <L1nuxRules> yes it is simple just not adviseble to someone who doesent know how to do it properly and seccurely
[03:12] <fus10nx1> but i mean all of those godaddy servers and VPS I use have it set by default
[03:12] <treydogg> ubun:  yeah you are gonna need to install the nvidia drivers.. but pop in the card.. and boot it up, if I were you I would rename your xorg.conf to xorg.old.. and start X
[03:12] <fus10nx1> so the ftp user can write to /var/www
[03:12] <fus10nx1> whatever FTP user i create i.e. user1
[03:12] <treydogg> ubun:  ubuntu will ask you to install alternative drivers
[03:13]  * zykotick9_ thinks FTP really needs to Die
[03:13] <L1nuxRules> zykotick9_ yeah sorry for that was well out of order
[03:13] <ubun> treydogg: ok what do you mean by start x?
[03:13] <fus10nx1> whatever teh case, it's still writing the files as 600, any other ideas ?
[03:13] <treydogg> start your xsession..
[03:13] <treydogg> ie "startx"
[03:14] <ubun> treydogg: is that the command...?
[03:14] <fus10nx1> perhaps the virtual user thing is the way i hvae to do this
[03:14] <treydogg> ubun:  dont worry about it.. first I would just try to pop in the card and boot.
[03:15] <Gumby> fus10nx1: there is also a reason why VPS servers get hacked all the time (because they make it easy for the end user which often makes things less secure)
[03:15] <Gumby> fus10nx1: the reason vsftp sets 600 as the default permissions is for security.
[03:15] <edwardthefma> any 1 know how to use inadyn
[03:15] <Gallo> treydogg, can i message you a sec man?
[03:16] <fus10nx1> ok
[03:16] <fus10nx1> so there's this thing about the virtual users, should I try that?
[03:16] <new2net> Does anyone know what the bug in python's nfqueue module (for netfilter hooks) is for debian based OS?
[03:16] <dompyuin> hi, i have a problem to join the ##java channel, i just wanna open and view this file http://bit.ly/qMWK0H, on netbeans, im using ubuntu 10.04, can anybody kindly help me to open this file as project in netbeans 6.8. thanks in advance
[03:17] <fus10nx1> should i just switch to proftpd ?
[03:18] <L1nuxRules> shared hosting maybe?
[03:18] <Gumby> nice queries on my webserver
[03:19] <Gumby> I wont bother posting here what they were/are
[03:19] <fus10nx1> chown vsftpd.users /home/users/user1
[03:19] <fus10nx1> i think this is what i need to do
[03:19] <fus10nx1> http://centosforserver.blogspot.com/2010/02/virtual-hosting-with-vsftpd-and-mysql.html
[03:20] <L1nuxRules> vsftpd Ive not seen for a while proftpd seems to be used by the control panels so might be better
[03:20] <momoru> I just did a fresh install of the latest version of Ubuntu and I'm having some problems with the video.  I'm not sure if it's my video card or my monitor though.
[03:21] <L1nuxRules> if its a server that only you admin and only you host just do it all via ssh
[03:21] <fus10nx1> i just feel like im so close to vsftpd
[03:22] <L1nuxRules> if you know it inside out then stick with it otherwise...
[03:22] <momoru> Whenever X starts all I get is a blank desktop and a cursor.  Every so often I'll see a desktop icon and an application window flash on the screen and vanish.
[03:22] <blsh0p> is there a chat for talking about video games?
[03:23] <urlin2u> momoru, how old is the install, and what is the gpy?
[03:23] <fus10nx1> so aggrivating !@
[03:23] <L1nuxRules> sounds like a kernel upgrade
[03:23] <momoru> urlin2u: Fresh install. gpy?
[03:24] <L1nuxRules> on the gfx
[03:24] <urlin2u> momoru, GPU sorry.
[03:24] <fus10nx1> Problem solved! To fix this either give permissions to www-data to the new directory or edit /etc/apache2/envvars and change APACHE_RUN_USER and APACHE_RUN_GROUP from www-data to your user name.
[03:24] <momoru> urlin2u: Ah.  It's an nVidia card.  Can't remember the exact model since the machine is a few years old.
[03:25] <duiu> How much better is driver support for an nvidia gtx 560 Ti vs amd 6870, I'm going to dual boot windows / linux and want to know if the extra $70 is worth it
[03:25] <urlin2u> momoru, use the recovry boot from grub choose failsafe at the first gui for a low graphics desktop update then look in additional drivers.
[03:25] <jrib> fus10nx1: wait what?  You're making apache run as your user?
[03:25] <fus10nx1> ya
[03:25] <fus10nx1> bad idea?
[03:25] <jrib> fus10nx1: yes, bad idea...
[03:25] <fus10nx1> haha ok
[03:25] <fus10nx1> im reading off forums at this point
[03:25] <momoru> urlin2u: How do I get into the recovery boot?
[03:25] <jrib> fus10nx1: better to give www-data permissions it needs on specific directories
[03:26] <Gumby> Problem solved! To fix this either give permissions to www-data to the new directory  <-----
[03:26] <fus10nx1> so www-data should have access to /home/user1/var/www
[03:26] <fus10nx1> how do i grant folder permissions ?
[03:26] <fus10nx1> to that user?
[03:26] <urlin2u> momoru, there is a recovery in the grub menu do you se the grub menu when you boot if not tap the shift key at powering on.
[03:26] <jrib> fus10nx1: what do you want to accomplish in the end?
[03:26] <fus10nx1> or what do i google to figure that out ?
[03:26] <fus10nx1> writing files w/ more than 600 (chmod) to /home/user1/var/www
[03:26] <fus10nx1> so then i can access the files via a web browser
[03:27] <momoru> urlin2u: No, I don't see a grub menu but I'll give that a shot.  Thanks.
[03:27] <L1nuxRules> hacking a linux server for your google search :)
[03:27] <Gumby> thats more than likely an ftp server setting
[03:27] <Gumby> s/an/a/
[03:27] <fus10nx1> seems like a common problem
[03:27] <fus10nx1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819794
[03:27] <urlin2u> momoru, no problem, this is a dual boot not a wubi?
[03:27] <fus10nx1> cd /var/www
[03:27] <fus10nx1> sudo chgrp www-data files
[03:27] <fus10nx1> sudo chmod g+rwx files
[03:27] <fus10nx1> ah ! so i could just give 'user1' access to the /var/www
[03:27] <Gumby> fus10nx1: that is only 1/2 of your problem
[03:27] <fus10nx1> but now ive pointed apache to it
[03:27] <fus10nx1> so doesnt matter....
[03:27] <FloodBot1> fus10nx1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:27] <urlin2u> momoru, or just a single install?
[03:28] <momoru> urlin2u: Single install.
[03:28] <Gumby> fus10nx1: as I see it, you have two problems
[03:28] <fus10nx1> i only see 1 now?
[03:28] <urlin2u> momoru, cool yeah you need to tap shift I think to get the grub menu.
[03:28] <fus10nx1> and that's allowing the files that are FTP'd to have more than 600
[03:28] <fus10nx1> then im done
[03:28] <momoru> urlin2u: I'll give it a shot.
[03:28] <fus10nx1> because if i manually change them to 755, everything works fine
[03:28] <jrib> fus10nx1: please do not press enter to break up your thoughts
[03:28] <fus10nx1> sorry about that
[03:29] <Gumby> 1) you want your ftp server to by default write as group readable 2) you want apache to be able to read these new files.
[03:29] <fus10nx1> it reads them if i manually chmod
[03:29] <L1nuxRules> what you should have done is upload and change perms by ftp but because you changed by ssh you made root the owner
[03:30] <fus10nx1> so let's say I FTP in, upload a file then go to a web browser and try to download or load that file, let's say test.php, it does not work. When I manually chmod the file, it works fine
[03:30] <fus10nx1> no i changed to 755 via FTP
[03:30] <fus10nx1> i did do it by ftp, not by SSH
[03:30] <fus10nx1> user1 is in the root group
[03:30] <L1nuxRules> ah ok
[03:31] <fus10nx1> so i just need the files to automatically defalt to 755
[03:31] <fus10nx1> so this should fix all of my issues.....let me give it a shot
[03:32] <L1nuxRules> they all should below htdocs ot httpdocs or whatever its set to
[03:32] <Gumby> fus10nx1: as L1nuxRules has pointed out, you are asking for trouble by doing that
[03:32] <Sonarpulse> hello everybody, I'm having trouble uninstalling kubuntu-desktop
[03:32] <Sonarpulse> found the nice command line at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[03:33] <Gumby> fus10nx1: you can change the default umask in the vsftp settings
[03:33] <cheako> fus10nx1: Yeah, you should be using the www-data login!
[03:33] <fus10nx1> didnt work anyhow
[03:33] <Gumby> file_open_mode
[03:33] <jamescarr> is there someway to see packages installed by date?
[03:33] <Gumby>     The permissions with which uploaded files are created. Umasks are applied on top of this value. You may wish to change to 0777 if you want uploaded files to be executable.
[03:33] <Gumby>     Default: 0666
[03:33] <cheako> fus10nx1: No chmoding things.
[03:33] <FloodBot1> Gumby: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:33] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, you running natty?
[03:33] <Sonarpulse> but when i try it, apt-get fails saying it could not resolve dependacies for INSTALLATION
[03:33] <jamescarr> I want to see the 10 previously installed packages
[03:33] <Sonarpulse> yeah
[03:33] <Gumby> BUT, I wouldn't do it that way
[03:33] <Sonarpulse> there is no items to install in the command line
[03:34] <fus10nx1> i dont see that in my config
[03:34] <fus10nx1> file open mode
[03:34] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, install what?
[03:34] <fus10nx1> in the /etc/vsftpd.conf
[03:34] <Sonarpulse> i am trying to UNinstall kubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <Sonarpulse> the common line is one long sudo apt-get remove ................
[03:35] <cheako> fus10nx1: Configure the pam.d/vsftp file to use a separate password/shadow file per the virtual-users example I posted an hour ago.  Then login using the www-data username.
[03:35] <Sonarpulse> yet apt tries to install things
[03:35] <Sonarpulse> and then says it can't resolve the dependancies for the stuff it is trying to install
[03:35] <cheako> That should fix it up so that the files are created with the proper ownership that apache will be vary happy.
[03:35] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, only the ubuntu-desktop,  so what was the install kubuntu?
[03:35] <fus10nx1> im gonna have to
[03:35] <fus10nx1> ive changed so many things at this point
[03:36] <fus10nx1> im gonna start fresh
[03:36] <watermark> any opinions on outlook 2007 support in crossover?  They say it works, anyone running it?
[03:36] <Sonarpulse> I have ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop currently unstalled
[03:36] <Gumby> fus10nx1: if it doesn't exist, then add it ;)
[03:36] <Sonarpulse> and i want to go back to just having ubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <momoru> Bugger.  I really wish I could remember what model nVidia card I had in this box.
[03:37] <Gumby> fus10nx1: but I still don't recommend this.  It is a bandaid for proper permissions
[03:37] <cheako> fus10nx1: Yeah trying to use FTP to manage /var/www was likely your first mistake...  Though I'm not sure there is a good method, any takers on writing a howto?
[03:37] <fus10nx1> where are you seeing this ?
[03:37] <watermark> momoru: dmesg | grep -i nvidia .  give it a go
[03:37] <fus10nx1> ah !
[03:37] <fus10nx1> this is my exact problem
[03:37] <fus10nx1> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/vsftp-umask-question-168393/
[03:37] <FloodBot1> fus10nx1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:38] <Gumby> fus10nx1: its not quite your problem.  you aren't uploading as an anon user
[03:38] <mneptok> !enter | fus10nx1
[03:38] <momoru> watermark: didn't say.
[03:38] <HowPinburious> ay
[03:38] <yeats> Sonarpulse: have you seen this?: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[03:38] <HowPinburious> How often do all bans get cleared at #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:38] <Sonarpulse> yeats: that is what i was trying
[03:38] <cheako> fus10nx1: umask only removes permissions it dosn't ever increase access as is needed here.
[03:38] <yeats> Sonarpulse: ah ok ;-)
[03:39] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, can you pastebin the error?
[03:39] <yeats> Sonarpulse: can you pastebin the error?
[03:39] <yeats> heh
[03:39] <Sonarpulse> sure
[03:39] <Gumby> cheako: the real problem is that he needs www-data to have read permissions ;)
[03:39] <urlin2u> yeats, jinx. :D
[03:39] <yeats> :-)
[03:39] <cacti> how do i check display driver, opengl driver, and display server ?
[03:39] <watermark> momoru: lspaci | grep -i nvidia
[03:39] <bsmith0931> when i import messages from text files into thunderbird do they stay in their own section or do they get mizxed in with whats already there
[03:39] <watermark> momoru: *lspci
[03:40] <cheako> fus10nx1 Gumby: He should just bit the bullet and login as www-data!
[03:40] <raven>  what is a great usb wifi card? I have an ASUS and my built in network card just isn't good enough. i would like to find a compatible usb wifi card that has a big antenna since I am a couple floors up from the wifi....
[03:40] <SIFTU> cheako: are you sure umask only reduces permissions
[03:40] <urlin2u> raven, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[03:41] <SIFTU> cheako: not that I caught the whole convo.. but all umask does it set the perm for when you create files.. to whatever the mask is
[03:41] <HowPinburious> Once again, How often do all bans get cleared at #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:41] <cheako> SIFTU: 110% positive...  though a umask on 0777 can seam to have that effect, if an applications 'default' perms are 640 then umask will do not.
[03:42] <yeats> HowPinburious: might want to ask in #ubuntu-ops
[03:42] <cheako> The concept is <default mode> & umask = mode applied.
[03:42] <L1nuxRules> umask of 0777 means its still owned by root dont know much more that that though
[03:43] <HowPinburious> k thx
[03:43] <L1nuxRules> the 0 is the owner
[03:43] <cheako> So increasing the umask has the effect of being able to squelch applications that have promiscuous permissions.
[03:43] <edwardthefma> any 1 know how to use inadyn
[03:43] <cheako> ...that's all.
[03:43] <L1nuxRules> cheako as long as you can set it and the user is valid
[03:44] <Sonarpulse> OK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/687339/
[03:44] <SIFTU> L1nuxRules: yes, so that will give full owner and no other access
[03:44] <urlin2u> raven, old school  http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html
[03:44] <cheako> However if an application explicitly setting the perms, then umask should have no effect (correct?).
[03:44] <Atharva> Hi..can I turn off the monitor of my computer for some time using terminal ?
[03:44] <Sonarpulse> BTW: I allready uninstalled the kubuntu-desktop meta-package
[03:44] <SIFTU> cheako: yes correct
[03:45] <Sonarpulse> i had the same problem before and after so i figure it's not an issue
[03:45] <SIFTU> cheako: it is just for inital file creation permissions
[03:45] <jrib> Atharva: yeah, check out xset.  I use: xset dpms force off
[03:45] <L1nuxRules> umask is for proper system lock downs mainly?
[03:46] <SIFTU> L1nuxRules: it just the default file permissions for newly created files under that user.. the files can be changed later
[03:46] <fus10nx1> man
[03:46] <yeats> Sonarpulse: yeah - uninstalling the metapackage doesn't do anything
[03:46] <fus10nx1> now im totally screwed haha
[03:46] <fus10nx1> i have no idea whats going on
[03:46] <cheako> L1nuxRules: The leading 0 means this is a file that dosn't have any of the suid/gid bits set.  Other bits in the first oct diget represent things like folder/symlink/device
[03:46] <fus10nx1> i cant even upload files to the folder
[03:46] <FloodBot1> fus10nx1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:46] <fus10nx1> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K 2011-09-12 03:45 .
[03:46] <fus10nx1> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K 2011-09-12 03:45 ..
[03:47] <Sonarpulse> I also tried uninstalling half the things (just coppied some of the stuff to the command line
[03:47] <fus10nx1> im trying to uplaod to drwxr-xr-x 2 root     root 4.0K 2011-09-12 03:45 www
[03:47] <Atharva> jrib : If I want to turn it off for 1 minuite then ?
[03:47] <SIFTU> L1nuxRules: I use a umask of 077 in my .bashrc so that owner has full permissions and the rest have none
[03:47] <Sonarpulse> and there were no errors as you can see, but it was still trying to uninstall stff
[03:48] <fus10nx1> wtf
[03:48] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, did you remove the kubuntu-desktop bfore this?
[03:48] <cheako> SIFTU:  I was incorrect in my original equation, it's a mask so the operation is an !& (inverted and)  thus 022 is no(to squelch) group or other write permissions.
[03:48] <Sonarpulse> yes
[03:48] <fus10nx1> now i can't even upload files to /home/user1/var/www
[03:48] <jrib> Atharva: check the man page for how to turn it on.  I just hit my space bar to turn mine on
[03:48] <fus10nx1> via FTP
[03:48] <Sonarpulse> but i got the exact same error either way
[03:48] <L1nuxRules> cheako & SIFTU thanks
[03:48] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, reinstall it then run the command.
[03:49] <Sonarpulse> ok
[03:49] <SIFTU> cheako: 022 is u=rwx,g=rx,o=rx
[03:49] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, basically you have done this wrong, you would run that remaoval list only.
[03:49] <cheako> In  any case the only logical answer is to use the www-data user to create the files to begin with...  or another username with the same uid(Though I think this became a not supported legacy feature.)
[03:50] <Sonarpulse> hmm?
[03:50] <cheako> SIFTU: 110% correct.
[03:50] <L1nuxRules> fast-cgi usually uses the ftp user
[03:50] <Sonarpulse> also when i started to reinstall it claimed it would have to re install and download everything
[03:51] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, can't really guarantee anything here but that might get you going
[03:51] <Sonarpulse> urlin2u: do you mean autoremove?
[03:51] <SIFTU> cheako: anyway.. what was the original question?
[03:51] <Atharva> jrib : Thanks..
[03:51] <fus10nx1> ok im switching to proftpd
[03:51] <cheako> SIFTU: How to remotely manage the contents of apache's default web folder "/var/www"
[03:52] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, you should have if you wanted kubuntu gone just removed it with the pschocats list, but you tried with the desktop first this is a cleanup as the mobsters say now.
[03:52] <phatphoton> If anybody has the time, I have a question about automounting of Ipods.
[03:52] <Sonarpulse> I first tried the psychocats list
[03:52] <Sonarpulse> before everything
[03:52] <SIFTU> cheako: not sue I follow.. yeah mean with files created by apache?
[03:52] <SIFTU> cheako: *sure
[03:52] <cheako> SIFTU: To upload web content.
[03:53] <L1nuxRules> cheako one thing to realise is thats not apaches dir
[03:53] <rypervenche> cheako: ssh, scp, sftp
[03:53] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, as much as I like that site I would never advise it in Natty to many changes, personally I would just use the other desktop.
[03:53] <Sonarpulse> ok
[03:54] <Sonarpulse> i think i will try to try bits of that list at a time
[03:54] <phatphoton> What channel should I go to for Ipod automounting problems/quirks?
[03:54] <Sonarpulse> uninstall anything installed by mistake
[03:54] <Sonarpulse> and then just hope for the best
[03:54] <frame45> Does anyone know how to setup a key pair for ssh from ubuntu server to a Mac remote machine?
[03:54] <cheako> We were going off on a huge tangent with vsftp and umask.  After using "adduser --home /var/www webmaster" apache was unable or unwilling to serve files uploaded by this user.
[03:55] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, yeah that is a doable plan.
[03:55] <cheako> rypervenche:  That's a great suggestion, but the issue is permissions and ownership.
[03:55] <L1nuxRules> if your using an ftp daemon it has to own the dirs you chown you will break it
[03:56] <cheako> L1nuxRules:  Yes, that's why I think the only logical method is to not attempt to use any use other then www-data....
[03:56] <L1nuxRules> the apache user makes no diff
[03:56] <cheako> There is a method of altering pam.d/vsftp to use a separate shadow file so that the system user dosn't have to have a password set.
[03:57] <L1nuxRules> upload via ftp execute via web browser unless someones messed a config it will work
[03:57] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, this command will give you a installed list in home run it in ubuntu. dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[03:57] <fus10nx1> Thanks for your help guys, im gonna build this bad boy from scratch, deff. learned a lot in the process and hopefully I can resolve w/ ProFTPD
[03:57] <cheako> L1nuxRules: Hmm, the default index.html should be read-only for example.
[03:57] <urlin2u> Sonarpulse, might help
[03:58] <Gumby> L1nuxRules: the apache user does make a difference though for the second half of the problem.  This being that apache needs to be able to read the files since those files are being served via httpd
[03:58] <L1nuxRules> no should be rw
[03:58] <L1nuxRules> rx*
[03:58] <cheako> L1nuxRules: ohh it's owned by root to start with...
[03:58] <urlin2u> L1nuxRules, would you please tab. :D
[03:59] <cheako> L1nuxRules: here it's 0644
[03:59] <L1nuxRules> vsftpd should configure apache to be aloud access
[03:59] <Sonarpulse> ok
[03:59] <Sonarpulse> thx
[03:59] <raven> urlin2u: haha. that looks fun.
[03:59] <Sonarpulse> i will try that too
[03:59] <cheako> root:root
[03:59] <Gumby> L1nuxRules: vsftpd should be scrapped :)
[03:59] <urlin2u> raven, thought you might like it. :D
[03:59] <Sonarpulse> hopefully 11.10 will further kick out old stuff (vai dist-upgrade)
[03:59] <Loki__> Hello all.
[03:59] <L1nuxRules> but again people are giving advise to unexperienced people that breaks things
[04:00] <cheako> ...kinda eave, but it let's you then make a user like webmaster and then upload after chown -R...  wonder why it didn't work?
[04:00] <cheako> evil
[04:00] <urlin2u> !tab | L1nuxRules
[04:00] <cheako> BPM just restarted in the middle of a song for the station announcement.
[04:01] <cheako> sorry ot.
[04:01] <Sonarpulse> oh shit
[04:01] <mneptok> Sonarpulse: watch the language, if ye please
[04:01] <Sonarpulse> reallized this whole time i was ssh'd onto a lubuntu-desktop computer with a similer name
[04:01] <Sonarpulse> my bad
[04:01] <Atharva> Hi..Does anyone know how to protect a folder using a password ?
[04:01] <mneptok> Atharva: "protect" from what?
[04:02] <Sonarpulse> wow /facepalm
[04:02] <cheako> Atharva: Group's can have passwords.  there is also folder encryption where a key would be needed to unencrypt the contents.
[04:03] <cheako> Atharva:  Wait are you talking http/apache?
[04:03] <phatphoton> Does anybody know some good docs on the Ipod mounting process in vanilla Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:03] <cheako> We are #apache today.
[04:04] <Atharva> cheako : have you seen folder lock in Windows ? I want a software like that
[04:04] <urlin2u> Atharva, a older web page but I think applicable. http://newtoubuntu.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/password-protected-folders/
[04:04] <cheako> Atharva: ohh, yeah then encryption is likely what you want.  Let me look it up.
[04:04] <mneptok> Atharva: why not just use Unix permissions to solve that?
[04:05] <cheako> Atharva: Ohh no idea, what's Windows again?
[04:05] <L1nuxRules> just to add to my ebough not that people are giving incorrect advice just not giving it to the right people
[04:05] <L1nuxRules> ebove*
[04:05] <mneptok> "above" ;)
[04:05] <L1nuxRules> above*
[04:05] <L1nuxRules> too much drink and smoke*
[04:05] <Atharva> cheako :"Folder Lock"is a software for windows..
[04:06]  * mneptok sighs
 : Thanks for the link..reading it now.
[04:06] <cheako> Atharva: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome  and forget it, I just have no idea what Windows is or why any one would ever use it.
[04:07] <L1nuxRules> wishes my brain used init it could do with a reboot
[04:08] <L1nuxRules> thats going to be a t shirt Im going to print
[04:08] <L1nuxRules> any feedback?
[04:10] <L1nuxRules> is everything 2>&1
[04:11] <cheako> L1nuxRules: Hmm, kinda windows like for a Unix concept.  Perhaps "Single user mode." would be better.
 Thanks a lot..
[04:11] <L1nuxRules> cheako do you even know what 2>&1 means , windows wtf lmao
[04:12] <urlin2u> Atharva, sure personnaly I would use a external and truecrypt.
[04:12] <swarthy> how can i prevent ubuntu 11.04 w/ unity from remembering my recent files?
[04:12] <L1nuxRules> or are you gui linux
[04:13] <cheako> L1nuxRules:  Huh,  no front "Wished my brain used init" back "I could use some Single user maintenance."
 : Ok..
[04:13] <L1nuxRules> ah ok sorry lol
[04:14] <L1nuxRules> that woud be a nice 1 :)
[04:15] <mneptok> !offtopic
[04:15] <L1nuxRules> !Linux
[04:16] <cheako> !sorry
[04:16] <L1nuxRules> whys it off topic?
[04:17] <mneptok> L1nuxRules: you need someone to explain why your t-shirt ideas are offtopic in a support channel?
[04:17] <cobra679> hi
[04:17] <L1nuxRules> it did go off topic but for 3 lines
[04:17] <urlin2u> cobra679, what is up.
[04:17] <cobra679> Is it ok if I asked a question about an error im getting when trying to run a program in ubuntu??
[04:18] <cobra679> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-version.c: 230: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
[04:18] <cobra679> thats the error
[04:18] <mneptok> cobra679: what is the app?
[04:18] <cobra679> its oscam
[04:18] <cheako> I was off-topic to complain about my MPD.
[04:18] <L1nuxRules> and off topic whilst it was quiet
[04:19] <urlin2u> L1nuxRules, let it go man.
[04:19] <fus10nx1> almost got my fresh server up and running now
[04:20] <mike-w> hi,i have a problem
[04:20]  * Sk|p brb
[04:20] <L1nuxRules> urlin2u theres soemething I need to let go :)
[04:20] <mike-w>   Unable to find ncurses library
[04:20] <fus10nx1> L1nuxRules: think its worth skipping vsftpd entirely and going w/ proftpd /
[04:20] <cobra679> any luck Mneptok
[04:20] <mike-w> how can i install ncurses library?
[04:20] <L1nuxRules> yeah fus10n0x1 vsftpd is old
[04:20] <fus10nx1> proftpd supports both pasv and active modes
[04:21] <mneptok> cobra679: where did you get the binary? how did you install it? is it known to work on Linux (the GitHub entry has OSX folders throughout the source tree)? etc etc
[04:21] <L1nuxRules> didnt know it was that old t didnt support passive lol
[04:21] <cheako> Ohh, I have a huge problem I believe some one can help me with.  I don't know what email address my account used https://launchpad.net/~mmestnik Can some one please send me an email or tell me the address I need to use for the login screen?
[04:21] <cobra679> mneptok it works on my friends computer and other friends computer
[04:21] <cobra679> but when i try run it thats the error i get
[04:22] <almoxarife> mike-w: are you compiling?
[04:22] <mike-w> almoxarife, yes
[04:22] <cheako> "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: mmestnik@launchpad.net"  How about help with this error?
[04:22] <mneptok> cobra679: ask one of the friends how they got it running? i have never even heard of that software, never mind used it.
[04:23] <cobra679> ok :(
[04:23] <cobra679> :)
[04:23] <cobra679> thanks anyway
[04:23] <mneptok> cheako: LP is not a mail provider. you do not have an lp.net mailing address.
[04:23] <mneptok> cheako: you might try asking in #launchpad
[04:24] <cheako> mneptok: ohh ;)
[04:24] <phatphoton> My Ipod is mounting on a "/tem/ipod??????" and not showing up in "/media/" or banshee. It has worked recently.
[04:24] <cheako> Though I think any one with a LP account could send me(this user) a message.
[04:25] <jabagawee> hey guys i have a lenovo x220 laptop and i just wanna disable the touchscreen capabilities of it. how would i go about doing that?
[04:25] <momoru> I installed the latest nvidia drivers for my card and now X won't start.
[04:26] <momoru> I get a fatal server error: no screens found message
[04:26] <L1nuxRules> momoru wont start in what way?
[04:26] <momoru> L1nuxRules: Fatal server error: no screens found
[04:27] <cheako> momoru: Likely you need a different version of some installed software.  How did you install the latest nvidia drivers?
[04:27] <L1nuxRules> fresh insatll?
[04:27] <rasusto> most likely your x.org config file is messed up
[04:27] <momoru> Yep.
[04:27] <L1nuxRules> you installed succesfully before?
[04:27] <rasusto> i use the older version of the drivers and they work fine
[04:27] <momoru> says "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration"
[04:28] <mneptok> momoru: did you install via the package manager?
[04:28] <momoru> No, I downloaded them from nvidia's website.
[04:28] <rasusto> well theres your problem
[04:28] <mneptok> momoru: did you install the compiler toolchain so that the drivers could be compiled against the kernel headers for the kernel you're using?
[04:28] <almoxarife> mike-w: sorry, what are you compiling?
[04:29] <rasusto> use additional drivers
[04:29] <cheako> I got into LP, thank you mneptok.
[04:29] <momoru> mneptok: I have no idea what that is, so I'm going to assume no.  I followed instructions I found on the Ubuntu forums for installing nVidia drivers.
[04:30] <mneptok> cheako: wgrant is helpful like that :)
[04:30] <C0keNC0de> guys, i need a linux equivalent of vitamin d
[04:30] <mike-w> almoxarife, thx,i've compiled ncurses
[04:30] <dr_willis> momoru:  so you did not even try the drivers in the repos first?
[04:30] <C0keNC0de> something to allow my pc to capture video from my webcam
[04:30] <C0keNC0de> this is REALLY important
[04:30] <dracmas> Is there a command for the terminal that can change the theme of xfce?
[04:31] <allu2> Where is the conversation about 11.10?
[04:31] <dr_willis> C0keNC0de:  cheese does that
[04:31] <L1nuxRules> momuro you dont have to do anything but go to properiatry drivers with ubuntu thats why I always use it for desktop
[04:31] <momoru> dr_willis: I'm not used to there even being drivers in the repos.
[04:31] <C0keNC0de> dr_willis, cheese keeps crashing for me
[04:31] <almoxarife> C0keNC0de: vlc also works
[04:32] <C0keNC0de> really?
[04:32] <momoru> L1nuxRules: I was just trying to update the drivers because after a fresh install, I was having problems getting X to work.  I was getting a blank desktop with a cursor and occasionally a desktop icon or two would flicker on the screen.
[04:33] <C0keNC0de> almoxarife, how do i find out the video device name
[04:34] <rww> allu2: #ubuntu+1
[04:34] <L1nuxRules> momuro that usually happens after a kernel upgrade its just a case of reinstallingt the drivers usually (easiest way is going to the gui section for hardware drivers)
[04:35] <dr_willis> momoru:  whats the chipset?
[04:35] <almoxarife> C0keNC0de: it should show up in 'input devices'
[04:35] <momoru> dr_willis: Geforce FX 5200
[04:35] <hogu_> has anyone gotten mouseemu to work with ctrl-click?
[04:36] <hogu_> I can get it to work with single keys
[04:36] <hogu_> but not modifier + key combinations
[04:36] <hogu_> or anything with the mouse
[04:36] <EntityReborn> Hi. 11.04 on mt Toshiba L25 can't connect to my WPA router, tho it can to my WEP router.
[04:36] <EntityReborn> Anyone know of this?
[04:36] <almoxarife> C0keNC0de: it should show up in video capture, sorry
[04:37] <swarthy> how can I customize the colors and behavior of scrollbars in natty/unity?  Specifically, I want the Ambiance theme but with a slightly more contrasted scrollbar position indicator, and i want to disable the "pop-out" scroll bars that are used in some windows
[04:37] <momoru> L1nuxRules: I suppose I'll try rebooting into recovery mode and see if I can't reinstall drivers from Synaptic.
[04:38] <L1nuxRules> momuro system> administration > hardware drivers
[04:39] <cheako> mneptok: Yeah, wgrant put me on the path.
[04:39] <momoru> L1nuxRules: Thanks.
[04:39] <EntityReborn> I cannot connect to my network using WPA security, is there any fix for this?
[04:39] <fus10nx1> man
[04:39] <fus10nx1> i fucking give up
[04:40] <almoxarife> EntityReborn: is your network wpa secure?
[04:40] <bazhang> fus10nx1, no cursing here
[04:40] <cheako> almoxarife: No such thing, is there?
[04:40] <L1nuxRules> your wireless network issue is not an ubuntu issue
[04:41] <almoxarife> cheako: wifi
[04:41] <EntityReborn> almoxarife: define WPA secure?
[04:41] <EntityReborn> The network is secured using WPA Personal, yes
[04:42] <EntityReborn> wpasupplicant is installed, `iwlist auth` shows wlan0 supporting WPA and WPA2
[04:42] <cheako> almoxarife: Every wifi eyncription I've heard about has a fatal flaw that makes trivial attacks possible...  WEP is actually the most difficult to break currently.
[04:42] <L1nuxRules> its not an os issue
[04:42] <almoxarife> EntityReborn: the security key then has been set on the router
[04:42] <C0keNC0de> hmmm, i cant find my webcam
[04:42] <C0keNC0de> i'm on an acer aspire one
[04:42] <C0keNC0de> does ubuntu support my webcam
[04:43] <EntityReborn> I have access to the router, I copied and pasted the PSK into the keybox in Ubuntu, still no joy
[04:43] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras C0keNC0de
[04:43] <EntityReborn> (The router is running dd-wrt, for the record)
[04:43] <cheako> WEP requires capturing a lot of network traffic where as WPA is breakable using only the auth tokens.
[04:43] <almoxarife> EntityReborn: can you ping the router?
[04:43] <cheako> ...Granted I think you need to be able to hear both parties clearly.
[04:44] <momoru> L1nuxRules: I'm not seeing a "hardware drivers" entry.
[04:44] <cheako> For WPA.
[04:44] <EntityReborn> almoxarife: kinda hard to ping a router i'm not associated with :/
[04:44] <L1nuxRules> and
[04:44] <almoxarife> EntityReborn: true
[04:45] <L1nuxRules> if your wireless is failing on authentication look at it lower than os
[04:45] <EntityReborn> I'm connected to the router wired right now, so that works
[04:45] <cheako> EntityReborn: One instance of wpasupplicant I have here used to work vary well, but now it fails to insert the WEP key into the interface.
[04:45] <EntityReborn> And I am connected to another router which uses WEP, fine
[04:45] <almoxarife> EntityReborn: fine then, assuming there is zero security on the router, can you acess it?
[04:45] <EntityReborn> almoxarife: define access and security
[04:46] <EntityReborn> When connected wired, I can access the config interface
[04:46] <cheako> EntityReborn: I guess all I can say is that I've known wpasupplicant to be more then a bit fussy.
[04:46] <EntityReborn> cheako: ah
[04:46] <EntityReborn> I might downgrade to WEP then, tho its less secure.
[04:46] <cheako> As for an alternative, I'm using some GUI here.
[04:47] <bambanx> guys where is the executable of gedit ?
[04:47] <cheako> NetworkManager Applet 0.8.1
[04:47] <L1nuxRules> wpa2 works fine
[04:47] <bambanx> in wich folder?
[04:47] <L1nuxRules> Im a noob to ubuntu but not Linux and it all works out the box
[04:48] <EntityReborn> L1nuxRules: :/ your peanutgallery comments aren't helpful
[04:48] <Gallo> hey L1nuxRules, hmm can you help in setting up wireless on bt?
[04:48] <almoxarife> EntityReborn: routers also hang=stop working properly sometimes, perhaps a cold restart=pull the plug on it for uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 1min? and try again?works for me
[04:49] <EntityReborn> almoxarife: as I mentioned before, I can connect wired to the router, but I will try pulling the plug
[04:49] <L1nuxRules> well it shows where the errors are
[04:49] <Guest66840> I want to use a proxy for HTTP but not for SSL. What ip and port do I use for the SSL for it to mean "no proxy"?
[04:49] <fus10nx1> this is proving to be impossible
[04:49] <fus10nx1> what. the. fuck.
[04:49] <C0keNC0de> meh
[04:49] <L1nuxRules> if you cant use a computer stick to windows
[04:49] <C0keNC0de> i'm upgrading to 10.10
[04:50] <C0keNC0de> hopefully that works
[04:50] <bazhang> L1nuxRules, stop that
[04:50] <bazhang> fus10nx1, thats enough please
[04:50] <L1nuxRules> ok sorry
[04:50] <EntityReborn> Another interesting thing is, when trying to associate, the radio icon animates once, then flickers to the "waiting" icon, then back to the radio animation, and so on
[04:50] <Gallo> hey L1nuxRules, hmm can you help in setting up wireless on bt? lol no for real though
[04:50] <Nisstyre> I would tend to disagree with that viewpoint
[04:51] <L1nuxRules> Gallo not at all sorry Im going to bed within 10 mins
[04:51] <Gallo> fair enough man
[04:52] <EntityReborn> Nisstyre: what viewpoint?
[04:52] <L1nuxRules> infact might be less than 10
[04:52] <yekoms> what would i use to install a new gdm theme?
[04:52] <Gallo> hmm, I should probably do the same lmao
[04:52] <yekoms> google says use gdmsetup, but there is no tabs for themes.
[04:54] <LocoenelCoco> wow ubuntu 11.04 is great! i was afraid to upgrade from 10.10 so i made a fresh install, it even recognizes my wifi, unity is good too! i noticed its a bit slower prolly due to unity
[04:56] <EntityReborn> So, does anyone else have ideas about the WPA issue I am having?
[04:57] <yekoms> so no ideas eh?
[04:57] <arch_is_awesome> How do I close irssi?
[04:57] <cheako> L1nuxRules: Agreed it does work out of the box, much like some other product.  However it's happened once or twice where months/years later some problem crops up and some function becomes crippled...  Though it's totally fixable if you ever discover the problem, where as with some other products starting from back in the box is the only cure.
[04:58] <K`zan> Hi folks, got a program that wants /dev/dsp which I don't have (U10.10) looked around the net and tried a few things but I am totally lost, what  /dev is dsp now ?  If I sound confused, I am :-./,  TMIA!
[04:58] <OverDrive> gee where is the menu in xchat
[04:58] <OverDrive> ¬¬
[04:58] <EntityReborn> OverDrive: press F9
[04:59] <OverDrive> thanks
[04:59] <OverDrive> :D
[04:59] <EntityReborn> :)
[05:01] <grendal-prime> just got the new thor on dvd.  I cant play it
[05:01] <grendal-prime> whats up with that shiznit?
[05:01] <grendal-prime> looks like some new encryption thing going on there.
[05:02] <grendal-prime> something marvel came up with all on their little onesies.
[05:03] <K`zan> Can anyone tell me what /dev/dsp equates to in Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[05:03] <minnillo> hi
[05:04] <minnillo> anyone there?
[05:04] <EntityReborn_> Hey, figured it out.
[05:04] <minnillo> hi guys i have a question
[05:04] <minnillo> how do you update programs in ubuntu?
[05:04] <EntityReborn_> I changed the WPA algorithms on the router to TKIP+AES
[05:05] <Lithos84> minnillo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:06] <minnillo> Lithos84: is that the same as update manager?
[05:06] <fitha_> ！time
[05:06] <fitha_> !time
[05:06] <donCams> how do I install a theme?
[05:07] <donCams> I'm in Appearance Preferences > Install
[05:07] <Gallo> gnight all, thnx for the info
[05:07] <donCams> can't find a theme package from the theme I installed
[05:07] <Lithos84> minillo: Yes.
[05:07] <K`zan> sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[05:07] <catinthehat> I messed up my system a bit when trying to set up tor, so now whenever I want to update or apt-get I receive the following: "Unable to connect to localhost:8118: [IP: 127.0.0.1 8118]"
[05:08] <catinthehat> how do I change it back to localhost?
[05:08] <minnillo> Lithos84: cause i wanna update firefox to the latest version but can't seem to find how to do so. im using 10.04
[05:08] <EntityReborn_> minnillo: open terminal, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:09] <catinthehat> I've tried making it direct connection, but it still hasn't changed anything. :(
[05:09] <Lithos84> minillo: You need to add a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[05:09] <minnillo> ok guys i'll try it. im doing it now
[05:09] <minnillo> thank you!
[05:09] <Lithos84> minillo: The instructions are there.
[05:10] <Lithos84> minillo: You're welcome.
[05:11] <grendal-prime> anyone on the dvd thang?
[05:11] <grendal-prime> strange encryption deal.  Like nothing i have ever seen.
[05:11] <minnillo> Lithos84: thank you lithos. but how about for example i wanna update devede or say totem player. do they get updated by sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[05:12] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> Hello all
[05:12] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> hm
[05:12] <Jordan_U> grendal-prime: Do you see any io errors in dmesg?
[05:12] <evilpaeprbag> yo
[05:12] <Lithos84> minillo: They will be upgraded as far as your version of Ubuntu allows. 10.04 is not as updated as newer versions.
[05:13] <evilpaeprbag> i kinda don't like the latest ver. of ubuntu
[05:13] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> Press 887 if anyone receives this message. Testing an IRC client.
[05:13] <evilpaeprbag> natty 11.04
[05:13] <evilpaeprbag> 887
[05:13] <minnillo> Lithos84: Oh i see. So that means I stil need to upgrade to the latest Ubuntu version to get newer updates of applications?
[05:13] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> Thanks evil. Is my message visible to everyone on the channel?
[05:13] <MrBill> yes
[05:13] <Jordan_U> SyberBot-LOKI-PC: This is not a channel for testing. /join ##testing.
[05:13] <Lithos84> minillo: Exactly.
[05:14] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> Sorry about that. Apologies.
[05:14] <Jordan_U> SyberBot-LOKI-PC: #test rather.
[05:14] <evilpaeprbag> id rather the LTS ver of ubuntu mainly cuz its easier to edit display settings
[05:14] <evilpaeprbag> 10.04
[05:14] <mneptok> SyberBot-LOKI-PC: using the term "Bot" in your nick may very well cause unwanted attention from network staff.
[05:15] <minnillo> Lithos84: ohhhh ok. but is there still any way though to update them applications to the latest versions even without upgrading to a latest release of Ubuntu?
[05:15] <UnMeilleurReve_> Hey all. I goofed up.
[05:15] <mneptok> !offtopic | evilpaeprbag
[05:15] <Lithos84> minillo: You can try to look for them at Launchpad.net
[05:15] <evilpaeprbag> yea there is a way but i suggest staying with 10.04
[05:16] <evilpaeprbag> LTS
[05:16] <UnMeilleurReve_> Story is: I deleted the linux partitions from windows, rebooted, and discovered I deleted my bootloader. The 10.10 live cd won't let me just reinstall in the free space I created....
[05:16] <mneptok> evilpaeprbag: you are offtopic for this channel.
[05:17] <evilpaeprbag> did u try recovery mode from the grub menu
[05:17] <minnillo> Lithos84: i see. through PPAs on Launchpad?
[05:17] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: une bete noire. ;)
[05:17] <Lithos84> minillo: That's right.
[05:17] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: vrai. trop vria
[05:17] <UnMeilleurReve_> **vrai
[05:17] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: is your goal to reinstall, or to get the Windows bootloader restored?
[05:17] <UnMeilleurReve_> Reinstall.
[05:18] <evilpaeprbag> yea what Un person said
[05:18] <evilpaeprbag> word of not to dual boot u need windows installed first
[05:18] <evilpaeprbag> note*
[05:18] <minnillo> Lithos84: ok cool. so launchpad is only where you get PPAs? are there any other sites?
[05:18] <UnMeilleurReve_> Windows is still there and fine. I just have no bootloader.
[05:18] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: unused disk space (e.g. 200GB free of a 500GB NTFS partition) is not the same as free space to partition.
[05:19] <evilpaeprbag> what ver. of windows u have
[05:19] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: trust me, it's free.
[05:19] <meomic> hey is there a way to "reset" the memory used by xorg? with out reboot pc? after 2 weeks of hmm alot been done on this machine the metacity went up to 400mb and xorg 600mb (ive restarted metacity - now using few mb) - is there a way to do the same to xorg?
[05:19] <Lithos84> minillo: Have a look at repogen.simplylinux.ch
[05:19] <UnMeilleurReve_> 7
[05:19] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: then the Ubuntu installer should see it as unallocated free space, and allow you to partition it.
[05:19] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: I deleted the linux partitions from the 7 partition manager
[05:19] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: it will allow me to partition it, but I'm a bit at a loss from where to go from there.
[05:20] <evilpaeprbag> theirs a way to get the boot loader off the CD but i forgot how
[05:20] <cheako> I passed this on the the xorg-edgers contact http://bit.ly/oKZvDN
[05:20] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: install Ubuntu to a partition you create. at the end of the installation process you will be asked about installing the GRUB bootloader.
[05:20] <evilpaeprbag> its some kind of command line entry
[05:21] <evilpaeprbag> try googleing your problem cuz ive fixed a few pcs like that where all i had to do was reinstall the boot loader
[05:21] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: It seems that I'm going to have to manually specify the partitions. Any nice handy link that'll tell me how and which partitions to specify?
[05:21] <evilpaeprbag> but i can't think of it right now
[05:21] <grendal-prime> Jordan_U, like the drive is broke?
[05:22] <evilpaeprbag> installing BT4 to a jump drive for class so thats y im here
[05:22] <grendal-prime> i mean if thats what your asking im pretty sure the drive is ok
[05:22] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: you'll want at least 10GB or so for Ubuntu. whether or not you need a swap partition is mostly a matter of how much RAM you have, and if you plan to hibernate the machine.
[05:22] <minnillo> Lithos84: alright thanks for that. one last question, is there any danger with installing latest versions of applications on an older Ubuntu like mine which is 10.04? Cause like you said versions of applications only go as far as how a Ubuntu version would allow them.
[05:23] <evilpaeprbag> stick with 10.04 LTS its a much stable ver.
[05:23] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: 4gb ram, going with 12 gigs to install, installing 10.10 x86 and not caring about the lost .75 of ram. I do usually hibernate, however.
[05:23] <mneptok> evilpaeprbag: i will not warn you again with regards to your ranting about 11.04. let it drop.
[05:24] <Jordan_U> grendal-prime: No, like many commercial DVDs are written with purposely incorrect checksums so to generate IO errors that are likely to make DVD players crash.
[05:24] <Lithos84> minillo: There won't be security updates from Ubuntu team. I think that's all. I installed newer versions of software on Ubuntu 10.04, and it's working fine.
[05:24] <Jordan_U> grendal-prime: Do you see any IO errors in the output from "dmesg"?
[05:24] <Lynna> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu, I dont have a lot of experience with linux, and I am wanting to install a program that I downloaded from a web site. The file ends in tar.bz2 how would I go about that?
[05:24] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: in order for hibernation to work, the contents of the RAM have to be flushed to a swap partition. so make sure you create a swap partition equal to or greater than the total memory.
[05:24] <grendal-prime> [107502.173006] UDF-fs INFO UDF: Mounting volume 'THOR', timestamp 2011/07/12 00:27 (1e5c)
[05:24] <fus10nx1> If I need to give a user full access to /var/www, how do I do that?
[05:25] <fus10nx1> I am trying to let a user FTP upload some files there
[05:25] <minnillo> Lithos84: alright that answers my question. Thank you very much for your help :)
[05:25] <fus10nx1> so then we can load them w/ Apache
[05:25] <evilpaeprbag> not mai area ill just sit and watch
[05:25] <Lithos84> minillo: You're welcome (^_^)
[05:25] <bazhang> evilpaeprbag, enough with the offtopic commentary
[05:25] <grendal-prime> thats it
[05:25] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: alright. So 3.75 swap, but how much do I give to /ext4 and what others do I specify? If you have a link that might give me that info, I'll look at it to save you time.
[05:26] <minnillo> :)
[05:26] <Jordan_U> grendal-prime: How are you trying to play the DVD? What happens when you try to play it?
[05:26] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: / should be ~10GB (to allow for extra apps to be installed, etc)
[05:26] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: and that's about it
[05:26] <grendal-prime> ahhh Jordan_U now i get...
[05:26] <grendal-prime> [107619.027172] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 6400
[05:26] <EntityReborn> Alright, another issue
[05:26] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: so 10gb to / , the rest to swap, and then I can ignore the rest?
[05:27] <EntityReborn> When booting to Gnome Classic, usually X freezes, while the mouse is still responsive. I can Ctrl-Alt-F[x] to another console
[05:27] <grendal-prime> ya vlc gives me a file read error now
[05:27] <Lithos84> Lynna: Have a look on this: http://ur1.ca/52ev4
[05:27] <evilpaeprbag> how much swap u have
[05:27] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: exactement.
[05:27] <Lynna> thanks Lithos, will do.
[05:27] <Jordan_U> grendal-prime: Use GNU ddrescue to copy the dvd to an iso on your hard drive, then play it from your hard drive.
[05:27] <evilpaeprbag> i normaly run about 10-15% swap on the drive
[05:27] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: merci beaucoup mon ami. Let's see how this goes!
[05:27] <grendal-prime> ill give it a shot...thanks bro
[05:28] <Jordan_U> grendal-prime: You're welcome.
[05:28] <EntityReborn> Running Ubuntu Classic (no effects) seems to be ok tho
[05:28] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: de rien. mon plaisir.
[05:28] <dumbo88> !fr
[05:28] <grendal-prime> hey jordan is there a package for that...or ..do i need source..or do i need a ppa for it?
[05:28] <grendal-prime> that was ment for Jordan_U
[05:28] <Lithos84> Lynna: You're welcome.
[05:29] <Jordan_U> grendal-prime: The package is "gddrescue".
[05:30] <evilpaeprbag> anyone has had issures with HDMI audio on 11.04 cuz im having issures getting audio threw HDMI (running mint 11 but uses ubuntu sources)
[05:30] <grendal-prime> ya found it Jordan_U thanks again..
[05:30] <mneptok> evilpaeprbag: we do not provide support for Mint
[05:31] <Jordan_U> grendal-prime: You're welcome.
[05:31] <grendal-prime> is it like a gui type tool or is it simalr  to like dd?
[05:31] <Lynna> ok, Im sorry maybe I should be more specific. I know how to open it and extract it I just dont know where I am supposed to extract it to.
[05:32] <Lynna> And how If after extracting it, is that considered installed and ready to use?
[05:32] <bazhang> SyberBot-LOKI-PC, hi
[05:32] <evilpaeprbag> yo
[05:32] <hemingsen> Could anyone help me.  I have been searching for day about how to get my wireless speed on par with my windows partition.
[05:32] <bazhang> !mintsupport | evilpaeprbag
[05:32] <Myrtti> Lynna: what are you trying to install to be exact?
[05:32] <Lynna> a viewer for second life
[05:33] <Lynna> I downloaded the file its in my download folder
[05:33] <Lynna> I made a folder in my home folder called programs
[05:33] <Lynna> but It didnt automatically start when clicked so
[05:33] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: it worked! and is working.
[05:33] <Lynna> I was wondering if there was a step by step guide on installing software like that
[05:33] <Myrtti> Lynna: tar.bz2 and tar.gz are just packaging formats, just like zip, unextracting them doesn't mean it's installed.
[05:34] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: bon fait!
[05:34] <evilpaeprbag> dosn't ubuntu come with a package installer
[05:34] <Lynna> ok, so what do I need to install it ?
[05:34] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: so, should I expect difficulties when trying to boot to windows do you think?
[05:34] <Myrtti> Lynna: it may be that the file isn't executable, in Linux there are no file extensions to mark it such, rights to execute is a separate thing
[05:34] <bazhang> !apt-get > evilpaeprbag
[05:34] <grendal-prime> evilpaeprbag,  on the best one ever maid
[05:35] <mneptok> UnMeilleurReve_: at the end of the Ubuntu install process, you will be asked about installing GRUB to the bootloader. you should do so. GRUB should detect the Windows partition, and add an entry for Win7 to the boot menu.
[05:35] <evilpaeprbag> yea
[05:35] <Myrtti> Lynna: have you read through this: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linux_Viewer
[05:36] <Lynna> I dont see a way to get the software package installer to open or unpack it into the software directory on ubuntu
[05:36] <Lynna> Thanks Myrti, had read some docs but not that one.
[05:37] <Lynna>  will give it a look.
[05:37] <Lynna> ty
[05:37] <evilpaeprbag> mp
[05:37] <evilpaeprbag> np*
[05:37] <UnMeilleurReve_> mneptok: I love automated functions.
[05:37] <evilpaeprbag> same
[05:37] <mbrigdan> Hey, I need some really quick information, without starting any arguments or anything. Did WTC 7 collapse in a way that was similar to the other two towers?
[05:37] <AlessonZaire> Does anyone know if there'sa cross-plataform software development studio like Anjuta?
[05:37] <bazhang> mbrigdan, wrong channel
[05:38] <mbrigdan> bazhang, oops, sorry. I think xchat switched when it connected over to ubuntu
[05:38] <mneptok> AlessonZaire: Eclipse?
[05:38] <AlessonZaire> mneptok Oh but isn't eclipse used mostly for java?
[05:38] <mneptok> AlessonZaire: what language are you using?
[05:38] <evilpaeprbag> i thought it was iced-tea or something like that but java has scrips for linux now
[05:39] <AlessonZaire> mneptok C\C++ and Python
[05:39] <mneptok> AlessonZaire: costs, but look at http://wingware.com
[05:39] <AlessonZaire> mneptok thank you very much, I'll give it a try
[05:40]  * mneptok bows
[05:40] <Tophen> Hey guys. Everytime I boot off Ubuntu 11.04 (Didn't happen on 10.10) it says 'err: HD0 out of disk... press any key to continue'. It DOES boot but it's very annoying. Anyway to fix?
[05:40] <vaev> eclipse can be just as well used for python or c/c++ or many other languages with its plugins
[05:41] <grendal-prime> he Jordan_U
[05:41] <evilpaeprbag> try the fix broken packages in the apt command
[05:41] <bazhang> evilpaeprbag, who are you addressing
[05:42] <grendal-prime> sorry hey Jordan_U what if i just use brazero to copy it to an iso you think that would work as well?
[05:42] <evilpaeprbag> tophen
[05:42] <Tophen> Yes?
[05:42] <evilpaeprbag> sorry i was randomly responding to an admin for something
[05:43] <evilpaeprbag> well im getting tired night yall
[05:43] <Tophen> Oh... no worries.
[05:43] <Tophen> SO anyone else got any advice?
[05:46] <zykotick9_> Tophen, not sure it will help, but if I where you (and hadn't tried already), I'd run "sudo update-grub2" and see if grub automagically figures it out.  Good luck.
[05:46] <Tophen> Thanks mate.. I'll try that out.
[05:51] <bazhang> !uptime
[05:51] <rww> !downtime
[05:51] <flynn> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and Firefox 3.6.17.  Internet flash videos (youtube dailymotion) are running slow like they never have before.  Same computer.  Same Internet connection as before but, suddenly videos are slow.
[05:52] <flo__> hello, I have a problem with aptitude always returning some error, any idea on how to fix? http://paste.ubuntu.com/687391/
[05:57] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> whois
[05:57] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> /whois
[05:57] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> /WHOIS
[05:57] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> ugh
[06:00] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> um
[06:00] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> hello all
[06:00] <rww> hi.
[06:00] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> how're you?
[06:00] <bazhang> SyberBot-LOKI-PC, please dont test here
[06:00] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> I'm not testing.
[06:00] <bazhang> SyberBot-LOKI-PC, ubuntu support question?
[06:01] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> Yeah. Does Wine work with all versions of Ubuntu?
[06:02] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> er. be right bacj.
[06:02] <SyberBot-LOKI-PC> back*
[06:02] <rww> ...
[06:02] <manster> o HAI!
[06:02] <manster> i sure am happy to be here
[06:02] <flo__> i tried -f install and clean so far..
[06:03] <manster> the linux guys are such jerks
[06:03] <fus10nx1> !@#%$!@$!@$
[06:03] <fus10nx1> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
[06:03] <fus10nx1> im losing my fucking mind over here
[06:03] <mneptok> manster: *pat*pat*
[06:04] <manster> so any playstation 3 owners want to comment on if it would be possible to ddrescue a ps3 game bluray
[06:04] <manster> then burn the image onto a disk, then Play the newly burned image/backup
[06:04] <manster> ?
[06:04] <mneptok> manster: piracy is down the hall in #preteens
[06:04] <flo__> manster, the problem is, without modding the ps3 it wont play the burned disk
[06:04] <fus10nx1> how can i make it so whenever i put a file in a directory via FTP it automatically gives it 775 ?
[06:04] <fus10nx1> it keeps defaulting to 600
[06:04] <fus10nx1> and its killing me
[06:05] <manster> flo__: I'd apreciate if you could elaborate
[06:05] <patrick> hello all
[06:05] <manster> shouldnt a ddrecue create a perfect copy?
[06:05] <mneptok> fus10nx1: that's usually a function of the ftpd config file.
[06:05] <manster> as in any encryption should be exactly as it was on the original
[06:05] <manster> so wherer is the issue?
[06:05] <flo__> no, there are parts on the disk that cant be written upon
[06:05] <wildbat> manster: there is not perfect copy for ps3 ~ home equipment ain't possible to make 1:1
[06:05] <mneptok> that's the end of piracy discussions
[06:06] <manster> backup discussions
[06:06] <bindi> how is that piracy
[06:06] <fus10nx1> mneptok: thanks
[06:06] <bindi> in my country, you are allowed to make backups of what you have bought... you can even download them, as long as you own a physical copy
[06:06] <manster> go to #lifelessoldman
[06:06] <fus10nx1> i changed it from 077 to 775
[06:06] <fus10nx1> made a bit of a different but still can't execute
[06:06] <fus10nx1> giving it --w-rw---- instead of -rw-------
[06:07] <fus10nx1> so getting closer
[06:07] <mneptok> bindi: anything else on your mind while i'm opped?
[06:07] <bindi> lol
[06:07] <bindi> no, thanks
[06:08] <mneptok> bindi: thanks for that. an Ubuntu support channel is not the place for discussions of copying PS3 games.
[06:08] <flo__> so, any idea on this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/687391/
[06:12] <fus10nx1> I think it worked !
[06:13] <fus10nx1> fuck. yes.
[06:13] <fus10nx1> finally.
[06:14] <Flannel> fus10nx1: Please mind the language, thanks.
[06:16] <id10t> :(
[06:17] <flynn> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and Firefox 3.6.17.  Internet flash videos (youtube dailymotion) are running slow like they never have before.  Same computer.  Same Internet connection as before but, suddenly videos are slow.
[06:17] <executionist> "The drivers are activated but not currently in use" How can I use these drivers for my graphics card
[06:21] <Shah_> Help regarding pon and poff bluetoothdialup
[06:23] <Shah_> Help regarding pon and poff bluetoothdialup,  when connected it onley seems firefox is able to connect to internet
[06:26] <Shah_> Hello there, can anyone help me with bluetooth dialup
[06:26] <icesword> what'sup
[06:26] <Myrtti> Shah_: please have patience
[06:27] <Shah_> okay, sorry
[06:27] <icesword> hei
[06:27] <Shah_> hi iceword
[06:28] <icesword> heh
[06:29] <LigH> Greetings
[06:29] <icesword> ubuntu-hp, what notebook do youhave?
[06:30] <LigH> Is there any more advanced GUI based grub.cfg editor than the StartUp Manager?
[06:33] <Shah_> Help on pon bluetoothdialup ?
[06:33] <icesword> what dialup?
[06:34] <glebihan> LigH, maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10340183#post10340183, and fyi startup manager does not work with grub2
[06:34] <LigH> Obviously not, glebihan ... that doesn't even recognise submenus correctly.
[06:35] <Shah_> iceword, dialup is method by which you connect to internet through a modem, in my case my cellphone
[06:36] <icesword> never use it, only heard of wifi
[06:38] <Xdept> Does anyone know how swap space works?
[06:38] <icesword> why don't you use a ADSL or a cable, can be quite easier to config
[06:40] <Shah_> its, slow, my 3g provides me with around 10mbps, only problem i am only able to surf net, none other applications like evolution or emphanty  work
[06:41] <Shah_> and its there whereever i go
[06:43] <urlin2u> Xdept, swap is for hibernate, and the overflow of ram basically look on the web.
[06:43] <icesword> what phone is it?
[06:43] <Shah_> LG KM900
[06:44] <Xdept> urlin2u, Wouldn't that mean it is REALLY slow?
[06:45] <urlin2u> Xdept, to some extent yes if put of the disc though it works faster, you can adjust the swappiness to use it farther into ram usage.
[06:46] <icesword> sha, it has wifi, isn't it?
[06:46] <urlin2u> Xdept, but you need it to hibernate an equal amount to the ram at least.
[06:46] <Xdept> urlin2u, Ohhhh, That clears things up
[06:46] <urlin2u> off*
[06:46] <Shah_> Help on pon bluetoothdialup ? anyone
[06:46] <icesword> you should wifi
[06:46] <urlin2u> Xdept, cool I sometimes have my swap on a class 10 sdhc card
[06:47] <Xdept> Because it is faster than sata
[06:47] <Xdept> Shah_, What is your Question
[06:47] <urlin2u> Xdept, off the disc mainly.
[06:48] <sevith> How can i install the python module urllib2 ... for some readon i cant find it anywhere in synaptic and google yields useless results...any ideas?
[06:48] <Shah_> urlin2u, well, i am trying to connect to internet through bluetooth using pon and i can connect but only use firefox, none other applications like evolution works !
[06:49] <Shah_> sorry that question will be to Xdept
[06:49] <urlin2u> Shah_, I wouldn't have a clue.
[06:49] <sevith> How can i install the python module urllib2 ... for some reason i cant find it anywhere in synaptic and google yields useless results...any ideas?
[06:50] <Xdept> Shah_, So you can get it to connect to the phone? And get Firefox to work?
[06:50] <Shah_> yes, i can surf internet
[06:50] <Shah_> but not use other applications like evolution and emphaty
[06:51] <Xdept> Can you surf to port 443 (HTTPS) Or 70?
[06:51] <Xdept> inside the web browser?
[06:51] <Shah_> how can i check that ?
[06:51] <Xdept> Goto https://www.bankofamerica.com/
[06:52] <Shah_> its loading
[06:52] <sevith> urllib2 is not installed anyone help me. I cant find it on google or in synaptic.
[06:52] <Xdept> Okay
[06:52] <Shah_> and fully loaded
[06:53] <Xdept> Shah_, Try Mibbit.com
[06:53] <Shah_> its loaded too
[06:53] <Xdept> Shah_, See if you can connect to IRC
[06:54] <urlin2u> sevith, you might stae why you need it.
[06:54] <urlin2u> state
[06:54] <lambda_x> is there a way to switch to contant bleeding-edge repos? (I mean like switching to unstable repo in GNU Debian)
[06:54] <sevith> urlin2u, I have a python script and I need this module to parse some urls.
[06:54] <sevith> urlin2u, I cant find it anywhere. Its actually kind of weird.
[06:54] <LigH> glebihan: Good hint, grub-customizer seems to support GRUB2 a lot better. Thanks. Bye! \o
[06:55] <urlin2u> sevith, out of my area, but usually the details might find a easier way.
[06:55] <Shah_> yes i can
[06:55] <Xdept> Shah_, http://quux.org:70/
[06:55] <glebihan> LigH, you're welcome
[06:56] <Shah_> yes sir
[06:56] <Shah_> i can connect there too
[06:57] <Xdept> Shah_, That probably wont prove much unless you have a gophor based browser.. Hmmm.... Have you tried thunderbird?
[06:57] <Shah_> no
[06:57] <Shah_> but what about other applications
[06:57] <Shah_> like emphaty
[06:57] <Xdept> Shah_, Also, can you try go to terminal and type ping www.google.com
[06:57] <Xdept> tell me if it connects?
[06:57] <Xdept> *Pings
[06:58] <Shah_> yes
[06:58] <Xdept> It does o.O
[06:59] <Shah_> well, some good news somehow emphany started to work
[06:59] <Xdept> Shah_, Can you do: tracert www.google.com and give me the first two lines on pastebin?
[06:59] <Shah_> how should i tracert
[07:00] <Xdept> Terminal
[07:01] <Shah_> can you tell me command for that
[07:01] <Shah_> i have opened terminal
[07:01] <Xdept> tracert google.com
[07:01] <napster> I've accidently deleted ~.eclipse! I've lost all of my plugins. How can I install them again as "Available Software Sources" is blank?
[07:01] <Shah_> tracert google.com
[07:02] <Shah_> tracert google.com not found it says
[07:02] <Xdept> But it pings?
[07:02] <Shah_> i mean command tracert
[07:02] <rww> it's traceroute, not tracert
[07:02] <Shah_> yes
[07:02] <Shah_> thanks, i will try that
[07:02] <Xdept> My bad :S Stupid Dos Class has ruined me
[07:03] <icesword> what does trace do? trace the route of who?
[07:04] <Xdept> icesword, It shows you the route your computer takes to the chosen destination
[07:04] <Xdept> ie www.google.com
[07:06] <Shah_> http://pastebin.com/mr568Uv7
[07:07] <ethanol> my firefox keeps failing at starting up, I end up with a defunct process
[07:07] <ethanol> how can I debug the issue?
[07:07] <ethanol> 6.0.2 btw
[07:08] <cacti> any guidance to install ATI 9802 driver on ubuntu?
[07:10] <Shah_> in evolution it always shows as disconnected by symbol in lower left corner
[07:10] <ethanol> ok I take it back, it took like 5 minutes, but now firefox suddenly decided to show up.
[07:10] <ethanol> what the hell? :<
[07:10] <icesword> ram is out..
[07:10] <ethanol> the defunct process is still around though
[07:11] <icesword> sha, did you config firefox to make it online?
[07:12] <Shah_> on, no changes made
[07:13] <icesword> you login your email client, what does it show? any msg?
[07:15] <lo0n> AAAAA/BBBBBquit
[07:15] <lo0n> lol
[07:15] <icesword> ...
[07:15] <Shah_> when i start evolution nothing happens
[07:16] <ethanol> evolution has reached a dead end
[07:16] <ethanol> devolution is new evolution :<
[07:16] <icesword> what if you do connect to your account
[07:17] <Shah_> i cannot send/receive is greyed out
[07:18] <icesword> i am not sure, ppl says may should use proxy, btw, where are you?
[07:19] <Shah_> well, i will try that, anyhow thanks to everyone there.
[07:20] <Shah_> Good day
[07:20] <Gumby> hi all.  I am trying to figure out what is using up all of my memory.  Top is telling me that the largest memory user is mythtv but it is only using 0.7% of the total memory available.  This doesnt make a lot of sense
[07:20] <icesword> kk
[07:21] <Gumby> I know linux uses as much memory as it can, but 8GB for a system that isn't doing a whole lot is quite a lot
[07:21] <ethanol> Gumby, you realize 80% is probably caching?
[07:22] <ethanol> which means it will be freed up instantly if something more pressing requires it
[07:22] <Gumby> ethanol: thats a lot of caching for a system that doesn't do a whole lot and has only been running for 2hrs
[07:23] <Gumby> I guess my recorded shows are being cached then?
[07:23] <ethanol> Gumby, regardless, you come in here yelling assumptions, yet you have not provided us the slightest idea as to what those assumptions are based on.
[07:23] <Gumby> ethanol: I'm not yelling anything.  I'm just asking a question
[07:23] <ethanol> fine, you're describing then.
[07:24] <Gumby> and I'm just trying to be thorough in order to get the best answer
[07:24] <ethanol> care to elaborate now?
[07:25] <quiescens> if you are looking at the output in top, it probably shows how much of your memory is being used as cache and buffers at the top
[07:25] <ethanol> that's just it, you're not being thorough. you still haven't told us why you think your system is using up all your ram.
[07:25] <Gumby> ethanol: if I knew, I wouldn't be here asking and trying to figure that out
[07:25] <jasonmsp> ack!  help!  I was renaming one of my mounted drives and remounting it and I accidentally did an rm -r on the drive. the drive is /dev/sdb3.  Data is gone.  Is it recoverable?
[07:25] <Gumby> quanmec: that makes sense.  I guess top is showing me two things then
[07:25] <Gumby> sorry, quiescens
[07:25] <ethanol> Gumby, but you DO KNOW. cause you came in here and said "I am trying to figure out what is using up all of my memory."
[07:26] <ethanol> Gumby, so SOMETHING made you make that assumption
[07:26] <ethanol> we want to know what that something is.
[07:27]  * auronandace wonders how anyone can "accidentally" rm something
[07:28] <ethanol> jasonmsp, was it important data?
[07:28] <Gumby> ethanol: I'm not here to argue semantics or be pedantic.  I'm just here to hopefully learn why.  I believe that quiescens, in a matter of one sentence has shown me why/how top shows total mem incl. cache up top but not below
[07:28] <Gumby> thanks quiescens
[07:29] <scarleo> Where can I find md5sums for Ubuntu downloads?
[07:29] <scarleo> !md5
[07:29] <kai> hi folks
[07:29] <ethanol> Gumby, are you blind or just dense? I asked a simple question, nothing more. I simply wanted to know _what_ made you think that your system is using all your ram.
[07:29] <jasonmsp> ethanol: yes.  Its all of my business files.  I have a backup but not an incredibly recent one.
[07:29] <ethanol> jasonmsp, boy you must really regret using rm like that now then? :p
[07:29] <Gumby> ethanol: ok, sorry.. fair enough...  top did
[07:30] <jasonmsp> ethanol: yeah no kidding.
[07:30] <blah> i'm getting a crash when i try and install ubuntu with wubi, usually hangs after "squashfs: version 4.0..." is printed
[07:30] <ethanol> Gumby, then yeah, exclude cache and buffers from used ram. Also, htop has a bit more elegant display of ram usage. You might want to try that instead.
[07:30] <jasonmsp> ethanol:  I was just trying to remove the created dirctory that fstab uses.  They were both named similarly.
[07:30] <kai> for some reason recently my numpad stopped working as a numpad and started moving the mouse. I had that before, and could switch it off in the assistive technology settings, but now it claims to be off and still moves the mouse
[07:31] <kai> what other setting am I looking for?
[07:31] <ethanol> jasonmsp, you can try data recovery, but nothing is guaranteed.
[07:31] <lws1> wow, jasonmsp, unlucky
[07:31] <Gumby> ethanol: I think what confused me in top is that the "cached" information appears inline with the swap memory so I was dismissing it
[07:32] <lws1> jasonmsp: i haven't read the backlog, what exactly did you do?
[07:32] <blah> is there a way to get a log or crashdump after a failed install?
[07:32] <jasonmsp> rm -r on what I thought was just the folder that linked to /dev/sdb3
[07:33] <scarleo> I can't seem to get a clean download, md5sum never matches. What can I do?
[07:33] <lws> jasonmsp: oh dammmn.
[07:33] <goer> How to change Plymouth Theme?
[07:33] <Gumby> ethanol: and thanks for htop.  its a bit of a strain on the eye but I already see how it can be of more use
[07:33] <lws> jasonmsp: keep that partition unmounted, and try 'foremost' to recover any important files
[07:33] <denysonique_irs> Hi
[07:34] <folivora> Gday, I am creating custom images for PXE server use, which is the best way if I need two imagesd 32 / 64bit. Which includes our companys basic installation files? Like pre installed applications ect.... '
[07:34] <denysonique_irs> apt-get install runs setup commands when I install a package for the first time. How can I manually rerun these commands?
[07:34] <quiescens> jasonmsp: if you haven't done anything else to the drive you might have a reasonable chance depending on the filesystem type and what settings are in use
[07:34] <lws> jasonmsp: there's also apparently and 'extundelete' tool which undeletes files from ext3/ext4
[07:35] <kai> jasonmsp: http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/data-recovery-linux-and-ext3
[07:35] <jasonmsp> yeah i haven't done a single thing except scared my wife by freaking out.
[07:35] <lws> jasonmsp: cool
[07:35] <lws> jasonmsp: first thing you want to do is remount read-only, to avoid trashing anything by writing to the disk
[07:35] <jasonmsp> drive is still unmounted
[07:35] <kai> jasonmsp: which explains the process using the formost tool lws mentioned
[07:35] <kai> actually, if you have the disk space, I'd work on an image of the partition
[07:36] <lws> jasonmsp: kai +1
[07:36] <lws> anyway, foremost is a surprisingly good tool
[07:37] <lws> last time i had to use it, it was because i slipped and typed "mkfs.ext /dev/sda1" instead of "mkfs /dev/sdb1", causing me to nuke my 500gb hdd
[07:37] <lws> foremost got a surprising amount of stuff back
[07:38] <jasonmsp> since I'm pretty worked up right now and obviously not thinking clearly lets baby step this.  "mount /dev/sdb3 /argh"  look right?
[07:38] <lws> and this is why we never operate terminals when sleep-deprived!
[07:38] <lws> jason: add the -o=ro flag, for read only
[07:39] <jasonmsp> ok so "mount -o /dev/sdb3 /argh"
[07:39] <lws> no
[07:39] <lws> mount -o ro /dev/sdv3 /mountpoint
[07:39] <jasonmsp> ok
[07:40] <goer> anyone know how to successfully change Plymouth theme pls?
[07:40] <lws> goer: what is "plymouth"?
[07:40] <jasonmsp> "mount point /mountpoint does not exist"
[07:40] <quiescens> boot splash etc
[07:40] <goer> lws: :(
[07:40] <urlin2u> goer, what release
[07:40] <Gumby> jasonmsp: perhaps you should sleep first
[07:40] <Gumby> hehe
[07:41] <goer> urlin2u: err.....Mint10 gnome
[07:41] <lws> jasonmsp: actually, sleeping on it may be a good idea ;)
[07:41] <jasonmsp> its 10:30 in the am where I'm at..
[07:41] <lws> jasonmsp: heh, what timezone are you in?
[07:41] <oCean> !mint | goer
[07:41] <goer> yeah...I know I know
[07:42] <Gumby> mount -o ro /dev/sdv3 /mountpoint <---- /mountpoint must be a directory on your filesystem
[07:42] <lws> (1541hrs local time, Perth WST 0800 for me)
[07:42]  * Gumby was in Perth in 2006
[07:42] <Gumby> was nice, but expensive
[07:42] <lws> Gumby: it hasn't gotten any cheaper :P
[07:42] <oCean> Gumby: please keep the offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:42] <goer> Mint is the child of ubuntu. Ubuntu is a Daddy :) Now, how to change Plymouth theme pls :)
[07:43] <oCean> goer: you might reason so, but this channel cannot help you with mint. Please stop asking
[07:43] <urlin2u> goer, we don't support mint here.
[07:44] <urlin2u> oCean, sorry missed your post Doh.
[07:44] <goer> Ok then. How to change plymouth theme in Ubuntu Maverick? ;)
[07:44] <ethanol> goer, just drop it. go to the official mint channels.
[07:45] <goer> Not even for dual-boot Mint and ubuntu?
[07:45] <ethanol> goer, in ubuntu it's under appearance. good luck :)
[07:45] <goer> ethanol: no, ur are wrong there. bum steer!
[07:45] <jasonmsp> i forgot /media in front.  anyway.. that didn't work.  "mount: /dev/sdb3 already mounted or /media/help/ busy
[07:45] <jasonmsp> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb3 is mounted on /media/drive1
[07:45] <ethanol> goer, I am not :)
[07:46] <lws> jasonmsp: sudo umount /media/help
[07:46] <goer> ethanol: Plymoputh casnnot be changed under 'appearance'. only backgrounds, etc
[07:46] <oCean> goer: I told you to drop it, last warning
[07:46] <lws> goer: googling "change plymouth theme" gives me several results for tools to do so
[07:47] <oCean> lws: don't continue the discussion please
[07:47] <lws> oCean: noted
[07:47] <goer> lws: thnx. been doing that unsuccessfully since yestreday, hence my asking here
[07:47] <jasonmsp> i think it is saying that /dev/sdb3 is still mounted to /media/deleteddrive
[07:47] <lws> jasonmsp: then try sudo umount /dev/sdb3
[07:48] <lws> you can tell 'umount' what to unmount by naming either the partition name or the mount point
[07:48] <goer> anyway, thnx for all the cheerful help :) Hv a nice day
[07:48] <lws> :3
[07:49] <jasonmsp> ok..  /help is now mounted to sdb3 read only
[07:49] <lws> so when you did rm -r, did you interrupt it or did it actually finish deleting every single file?
[07:49] <jasonmsp> lws: got rid of them all.  left me with an empty drive
[07:50] <jasonmsp> (or i should say, empty mount folder)
[07:50] <lws> wow, that is bad mojo
[07:50] <lws> are you wanting to recover all, or are there just specific things you're after?
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a channel supporting youtube questions
[07:50] <oCean> !alis | lotuspsychje
[07:50] <jasonmsp> lws: it would be good if I could get everything
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> tnx oCean
[07:52] <kai> actually that reminds me to put "automated backups at home" further up my todo list
[07:52] <lws> kai: aye, me too
[07:53] <lws> jasonmsp: recommend you try extundelete first
[07:53] <jasonmsp> yeah..  if only this was my server.  daily automatic backups!  =)
[07:53] <lws> if that doesn't get everything, then fall back to foremost
[07:53] <jasonmsp> ok..  working the man page
[07:53] <lws> instructionf for extundelete are on the sourceforge page
[07:53] <lws> which is, from memory, extundelete.sourceforge.net
[07:55] <ethanol> good memory :p
[07:56] <bullgard4> What is the default sys log daemon in Ubuntu 10.04?
[07:56] <lws> syslogd?
[07:57] <ethanol> rsyslogd I think?
[07:57] <lws> yeah, rsyslogd
[07:57] <lws> m'bad
[07:57] <lws> (well, that's what it is in the currest relase, at least)
[07:57] <lws> *current
[07:58] <bullgard4> ethanol: No.
[07:58] <executionist> how can I control bandwidth on my network?
[07:58] <irong33k> just got a copy of pinguy a derivative of ubuntu 10.04, followed guide on b43-wireless and installed the b43 drivers successfully, when i do "iwlist scan" the card can't detect any wireless network ?
[07:59] <ethanol> bullgard4, uhm, yes.
[07:59] <ethanol> actually I'm on 11.04, ignore me.
[07:59] <amh345> does this linux breach have any ramification on our ubuntu distros?
[08:00] <oCean> bullgard4: hmm, not sure what was in 10.04, sysklogd maybe?
[08:00] <dr_willis> what breach?
[08:00] <ethanol> http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/security-breach-hits-linux-foundation-sites-down-for-maintenance_585083.html
[08:00] <ethanol> I guess
[08:00] <irong33k> any help will be greatily appreciated
[08:01] <bullgard4> ethanol: If it was, it should run on my system. My system is functional. And rsyslogd is not running. I did not manipulate it.
[08:01] <ethanol> bullgard4, then it's syslogd
[08:01] <jasonmsp> "You must also have installed a C++ compiler and a make utility to be able to compile extundelete." ---  dpkg -l | grep ????
[08:01] <urlin2u> irong33k, we don't support pinguy
[08:01] <amh345> dr_willis: the breach that's taken linux.com kernal.org offline
[08:01] <oCean> ethanol: there's no such package, he's asking specifically for Lucid 10.04
[08:02] <lws> jasonmsp: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:02] <amh345> err. kernel.
[08:02] <lws> jasonmsp: that should install you a compiler and a make tool
[08:02] <irong33k> urlin2u, its an ubuntu derivative 10.04 to be exact, plus the channel for pinguy is dead,..
[08:02] <bullgard4> ethanol: It is neither syslogd.
[08:03] <dr_willis> amh345:  from what ive read the kernel sourve has not been comprimized thanks to "git" i think i rememrer that right
[08:03] <jasonmsp> thanks..  already installed so we are good.
[08:03] <urlin2u> irong33k, this is not my decision it is the channels, sorry.
[08:03] <oCean> bullgard4: it's either syslog-ng or sysklogd, I think it's the last one
[08:03] <amh345> dr_willis: i guess we'll have to wait and see. hopefully we're all safe.
[08:03] <irong33k> hmmm..another dead end
[08:04] <urlin2u> irong33k, install ubuntu pinguy is a good distro, but the support is rather low.
[08:04] <kai> amh345: well, if you discount that this will keep a couple of the kernel folks busy reinstalling the kernel.org servers, I don't think too much harm was done
[08:04] <dr_willis> amh345:  read an aetical on it the other day. any unusual changes to the source would get flagged
[08:05] <mae_tae> is that possible to assign different port no for webserver?
[08:05] <kai> amh345: basically the way the kernel development happens makes it really hard to slip in changes
[08:05] <kai> mae_tae: yes
[08:05] <lws> mae_tae: yes, see /etc/apache2/
[08:05] <amh345> good to know guys.  had a slight panic attack when i read it.  im a few days behind in my news
[08:05] <amh345> thanks for clearing it up
[08:05] <mae_tae> kai: and lws how?
[08:05] <irong33k> urlin2u, i believe running away from a problem is pure cowardice,..i am sure therz a solution installing a new kernel can it fix it ?
[08:06] <bullgard4> oCean: hm
[08:06] <kai> mae_tae: assuming you use apache, there's a Listen directive
[08:06] <oCean> mae_tae: in /etc/apache2/ports.conf you can configure on which interfaces/ports httpd is listening, in the various vhost configurations you can specify what vhost listens at which port
[08:07] <lws> well answered, oCean
[08:07] <kai> irong33k: that's a effort/result tradeoff, usually
[08:07] <mae_tae> oCean: where can i find that alos that vhost, are you talking of that http port accel?
[08:07] <executionist> are there any network administration apps for ubuntu ?
[08:07] <Cheesynubbs> what happened to kernal ?
[08:07] <oCean> !vhosts | mae_tae have a read here
[08:08] <mae_tae> ok
[08:08] <lws> oCean: is there a list of ubottu's macros available?
[08:08] <lws> they would mae informative reading
[08:08] <lws> *make
[08:08] <oCean> lws: sure, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <urlin2u> irong33k, that is a faulty ideal with a OS the b43 will not be fixed by a kernel change. I would use a OS that has support and ubuntu like other major distros, like fedora, archlinux, have excellent wiki's and busy channels..
[08:08] <irong33k> kai, hehe...i do understand, but if you did that nothing would get solved, right now i am just tethering with my android phone,..just curious installing a new custom kernel would that fix anything ?
[08:09] <kai> irong33k: as I don't know what's causing the issue, I couldn't possibly give a good answer to that, could I? :)
[08:09] <lws> oCean: thanks
[08:10] <irong33k> urlin2u, its  a great OS buy checking the network properties, i found it has ipv6 as the default, would that be the problem ?
[08:10] <lws> irong33k: i'm confused: please explain your problem from the start
[08:11] <urlin2u> irong33k, ipv6 is not really being used yet
[08:11] <irong33k> kai, certainly, i checked dmesg everything seems to be working fine...
[08:12] <irong33k> lws, i installed pinguy os a derivative of ubuntu 11.04, everything is running fine but wireless is not, i installed b43 drivers succesffuly, and my card is being detected but when doing a "iwlist scan" for my network is not detecting anything...
[08:13] <bazhang> irong33k, thats not supported here. please stop asking
[08:17] <ethanol> bullgard4, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes mentions that they moved from syslogd to rsyslogd on 10.04. so I guess I am right after all :)
[08:17] <ethanol> bullgard4, the only one was actually sysklogd
[08:18] <ethanol> bullgard4, new one is called rsyslog (with config in /etc/rsyslog.d/
[08:19] <ethanol> though they mention this chance was actually already made in 9.10
[08:19] <oCean> !info rsyslogd | ethanol hmm, weird:
[08:19] <ethanol> s/only/old/
[08:19] <oCean> oh wait
[08:19] <ethanol> ...
[08:19] <oCean> !info rsyslogd lucid | ethanol
[08:19] <llutz> !info rsyslog
[08:19] <ethanol> llutz, thanks
[08:20] <ethanol> oCean, rsyslogd is the daemon.. not the package
[08:20] <mae_tae> where and what file is the documentroot is specified? i couldnt find it
[08:20] <shaibn> Hi :) I was wondering if it was possible for me to use two video cards on the same machine? I have two GeForce 8400 GS cards, both show up on 'lspci' and while the first has two monitors attached and working to it, the 2nd video card that has another 3rd monitor attached to it, doesn't work and the NVIDIA X Server Settings doesn't recognize it... only GPU 0 is shown and no GPU 1
[08:20] <oCean> ethanol: oh, you're right. I was looking for the package indeed
[08:25] <mae_tae> oCean: where can i find that documentroot, i dont find it in apache2.conf?
[08:26] <oCean> mae_tae: in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled is the default config file. There's also your www root specified
[08:26] <mae_tae> thanks
[08:28] <bullgard4> ethanol: The packages rsyslog and sysklogd are not installed on my Ubuntu 10.04 system. I have not manipulated my system in this respect, and still it performs system logging.
[08:31] <darolu> I can't log in to hotmail or msn/live IM protocol (with any IM client); I can do so in this same machine when using Windows, any other website/online service work fine. Where should I start looking?
[08:31] <oCean> bullgard4: do you have a /etc/syslog.conf? Using this command you can check what package installed that:  dpkg -S /etc/syslog.conf
[08:32] <lws> darolu: do you have a firewall enabled?
[08:32] <darolu> lws: I have already shut it down, same result
[08:33] <lws> darolu: what firewall, and how did you shut it down?
[08:34] <darolu> lws: my router's firewall, it has a shut it down option, I have also used DMZ; I don't have a firewall installed that I'm aware of
[08:34] <kai> possibly MSN fudged with their protocol again?
[08:35] <kai> though pidgin currently works for me
[08:35] <kai> with libpurple 2.7.11
[08:35] <lws> yeah, i'm using finch (pidgin) right now, no issues
[08:36] <lws> darolu: what account settings are you using for your MSN account?
[08:36] <lws> any funky proxying or anything?
[08:36] <darolu> lws: I also tried opening the port 110 (the one msn uses) both tcp and udp, it's very weird it only happens with hotmail and msn when using Ubunut.
[08:37] <ethanol> bullgard4, you're not very responsive.. :<
[08:37] <jasonmsp> ICE TEA OR BEERS FOR EVERYONE!
[08:37] <jasonmsp> =)
[08:37] <darolu> lws: right now I'm just trying to open hotmail on my web browser, on pidgin I use the regular account settings (default values on pidgin). What account settings are you refering to?
[08:37] <lws> jasonmsp: you recovere everything?
[08:37] <bazhang> !ot | jasonmsp
[08:37] <jasonmsp> almost 100%!!!!!!!!
[08:38] <ethanol> jasonmsp, congrats
[08:38] <lws> darolu: wait, you mean that you can't get to hotmail.com in a web browser?!
[08:38] <kai> jasonmsp: congrats :)
[08:38] <jasonmsp> thanks.
[08:38] <falcon900> has anyone here completely switched to ubuntu for at least a year withount suffering withdrawal
[08:38] <lws> jasonmsp: which route did you take, extundelete or foremost?
[08:38] <bullgard4> oCean: '~$ dpkg -S /etc/syslog.conf; sysklogd: /etc/syslog.conf'. I maintain that the package »sysklogd« is not installed according to my Synaptic.
[08:38] <darolu> lws: exactly, I can browse anything else, check gmail, yahoo mail, everything but hotmail
[08:38] <urlin2u> falcon900, from what?
[08:38] <lws> falcon900: yes, arch linux / ubuntu user for five years
[08:39] <jasonmsp> extundelete..  since the file system was ext4 extundelete says its the clear choice for recovery.  "extundelete /dev/sdb3 --restore-all"
[08:39] <lws> jasonmsp: a winner is you!
[08:39] <falcon900> lws: wow, I always find something that i really need which i just can't get to work on ubuntu
[08:39] <darolu> lws: I get Error 101 after logging in in hotmail.
[08:39] <lws> jasonmsp: i'll have to keep extundelete close to hand
[08:39] <lws> darolu: whats the text of error 101?
[08:40] <jasonmsp> and it got almost everything.  The funny thing is that the last few documents that were changed were the ones that didn't recover with the restore all..
[08:40] <lws> i'm thinking somekind of funky DNS caching bug, or possibly a stray entry in your /etc/hosts
[08:40] <darolu> lws: 101 err_connection_reset
[08:40] <lws> darolu: what do you see in /etc/hosts?
[08:40] <kai> falcon900: well, I did, some time back in 2006, but ubuntu made some decisions recently that make me look for another distro for my next install
[08:41] <lws> darolu: can you do traceroute hotmail.com, or ping hotmail.com?
[08:41] <jasonmsp> moral of the story is if you are not on ext4 it would probably be a good idea to upgrade.
[08:41] <lws> nah, jasonmsp, moral of the story is really htat we should all be using zfs
[08:41] <darolu> lws: yeah I thought that too, I have a large blacklist pointing to 127.0.0.1 in my hosts file, I have already cleared it, same result. I also flushed my dns's
[08:41] <lws> but ext4 will do
[08:41] <lws> ;)
[08:41] <kai> backups, lots of backups
[08:42] <lws> anybway, i'm happy that you restored all your files
[08:42] <darolu> lws: uhmm I haven't tried to ping it, gimme a sec
[08:42] <lws> darolu: try a traceroute too, i'm curious to know how far it gets
[08:43] <darolu> lws: couldn't ping 100% packet loss. Here's the creepiest part: I actually tried to log in using a Live CD, it didn't work. I have reseted my router like 3 times already, didn't work either.
[08:43] <bullgard4> ethanol: There are so many nerds that mob Ubuntuusers but are sensitive if another ubuntero contradicts them. --  You told me "so I guess I am right after all :)". What remains on my side? Silence.
[08:43] <darolu> lws: ping is weird since I can actually go to hotmai.com it just won't let me log in.
[08:44] <Gumby> the real moral of the story is to not rm -r the wrong mount point :)
[08:45] <jasonmsp> yeah and backups too..   I'm taking the rest of the day off.  Have a good one everyone.  If its past 2am in your time zone go to bed!  =)
[08:45] <lws> traceroute to hotmail.com (65.55.72.167), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
[08:45] <kai> falcon900: notably they keep breaking my stuff on 10.04 LTS
[08:45] <lws> bye, jasonmsp
[08:45] <lws> darolu: can you traceroute to that IP?
[08:45] <jasonmsp> lws:  thanks again.
[08:45] <darolu> lws: traceroute done, what's that website that let you paste code?
[08:45] <lws> darolu: pastebin
[08:46] <dkdk> has anyone successfully gotten netbeans to work with JavaFX on ubuntu?
[08:46] <jasonmsp> Gumny: yeah anb probably a good idea to get a new screen name too!
[08:46] <dkdk> i know its possible, but my experience is nothing like the tutorials ive seen
[08:46] <lws> oh, and @ jasonmsp's story, the REAL moral of the story is to think very, very carefully before hitting 'enter' on destructive terminal commands
[08:47] <lws> 'rm -rf' shoudl come with one of those giant red buttons with the striped yellow and black cover you need to flip up before you can press it
[08:47] <kai> lws: dunno. I've found that you still get second thoughts right after hitting "ok"
[08:47] <celltech> Anyone know how to make a VM of Mac OS?
[08:47] <lws> actually, i wonder if you could patch rm -rf to give you a list/count of files it's about to delete, before it deletes them
[08:48] <kai> lws: alias rm 'rm -i" ?
[08:48] <lws> what's the 'i' flag?
[08:48] <kai> interactive
[08:48] <jasonmsp> sad thing is thats in place for me already!
[08:48] <darolu> lws: oh boy now pastebin is giving me 505
[08:48] <kai> it's a bit annoying
[08:48] <lws> darolu: are you sure your router isn't crapping out?
[08:48] <maxagaz> the touchpad of my vaio vpcf1 works, but is not handle fy the Mouse preferences, I tried to change some stuffs on xorg.conf, but no result. Does someone have an idea ?
[08:48] <falcon900> kai: I have natty now, i've been on and off for many years(mostly off when the system crashes and i vow never to return), then i did kde 10.04(never again) but i recently installed natty, the slowest so far, i'd like to keep it though
[08:49] <Gumby> maxagaz: I have a vpcfw1, which mouse prefs are you referring to?
[08:49] <kai> jasonmsp: as I said, even if there's a dialog asking me "are you sure", I get second thoughts only after clicking "yes"
[08:50] <kai> that's why I believe in backups :)
[08:50] <darolu> lws: not sure, this is the last actual jump: 10  MICROSOFT-C.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.71.140.78)  82.521 ms  118.800 ms  120.213 ms
[08:50] <darolu> 11  xe-3-0-2-0.bay-16c-1a.ntwk.msn.net (207.46.46.242)  89.862 ms  91.589 ms  93.063 ms
[08:50] <lws> darolu: yeah, the point is it made it out of your local network
[08:50] <maxagaz> Gumby, in system > prefs > mouse, I don't have the touchpad tab
[08:51] <darolu> lws: after that it prints "* * *" until 30
[08:51] <lws> yeah, that's because there's less than 30 jumps between you and the host
[08:51] <lws> the min point is that your DNS probably works
[08:51] <lws> you say this works on windows just fine?
[08:51] <Gumby> maxagaz: is your touchpad not working?  or is there an option you are wanting to change?
[08:52] <darolu> lws: the weird part is it works when using windows, same machine, same router
[08:52] <lws> darolu: that's hella strange
[08:52] <ethanol> anyone else having trouble with firefox 6.0.2 on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[08:52] <maxagaz> Gumby, it's working, but very basically, for instance, I can't copy-paste by clicking the two buttons, the touchpad is not handled by xorg
[08:52] <darolu> lws: yeah it does, what creeps me out is I even tried using a Live CD, Ubuntu and Fedora; it's really weird
[08:52] <Gumby> ethanol: not here, but Ive only been running it for a few hours
[08:53] <maxagaz> Gumby, I just realized it a few days ago
[08:53] <darolu> lws: I also have a laptop running Ubuntu I can log in just fine using it
[08:53] <lws> darolu: nfi, maybe someone else knows more
[08:53] <lws> darolu: in the meantime i sugest sacrifcinga goat
[08:55] <darolu> lws: man I've been googling for a while now, that sacrificing a goat actually makes sense lol thanks for your help, the tracerout was a great idea at least I know it does go out of my LAN
[08:55] <kai> falcon900: kde4 was pretty bad on 10.04. but I don't care about unity much either. and the breaking the 10.04 LTS kernel by changing the kernel ABI between -22 and -23 was just unprofessional, especially seeing how they still didn't fix it
[08:55] <shaibn> I have two GeForce 8400 GS video cards installed in my PC, both are shown in lspci but only one is actually recognized as GPU 0 and has two working monitors to it. I can't get Ubuntu to find the 2nd video card. Can someone help me out please?
[08:55] <maxagaz> Gumby, your touchpad is fully working ?
[08:56] <kai> so I'm back to debian for server installs, and need to evaluate xubuntu for my next desktop install. my 10,04 systems are getting a bit old
[08:56] <Gumby> maxagaz: yes
[08:57] <topspeed> gumby, are you from slovenia?
[08:57] <Gumby> topspeed: no
[08:57] <topspeed> sry
[08:57] <maxagaz> could you tell me the section you have in your xorg.conf about it ?
[09:00] <Gumby> maxagaz: oddly enough I have 3 button emulation off in xorg.conf
[09:01] <maxagaz> Gumby, could copy paste it to me ?
[09:01] <maxagaz> Gumby, just the section
[09:01] <Gumby> oh actually wait....
[09:01] <Gumby> http://pastebin.com/50em5bt9
[09:02] <Gumby> its been awhile since I got everything working on this laptop so that second entry might not be relevant
[09:03] <darolu> quit
[09:03] <rudra> i want to create a web based mail server can some one help me out please
[09:04] <Gumby> maxagaz: another thing you can try is adding "i8042.nopnp" to grub
[09:06] <rudra> i want to create a web based mail server can some one help me out please
[09:06] <bjhaid> I am connected to two different networks, on eth0 network and wlan0 interfaces, I can access internet on the wlan0 and some local resources on eth0, how do I configure my machine to access both resources, i think it can be done with routes, but I am mixing it up somewhere
[09:06] <obert-> hello. is it correct to do  sudo appName& in order to launch an app as root and dont get it closed when you continue to work on the terminal?
[09:07] <dc5ala> rudra, this is the wrong channel for such question.
[09:07] <rudra>  <dc5ala> any channel which you are aware of for these?
[09:08] <Shogoot> rudra, i guess it depends on what programing language you want to use
[09:10] <NMR> anyone in here point me in the right direction as far as a sudoers question?
 actually i have no idea i'm in with just some basic knowledge so anything if you can suggest me
[09:10] <maxagaz> Gumby, I already have it, but your InputDevice section is different from mine and you have this InputClass as well, I'll try it right now and let you know...
[09:11] <urlin2u> NMR, just ask the question.
[09:11] <dc5ala> rudra, you could try #ubuntu-server, but you are probably better off with some www search rather than getting help through IRC. Setting up a mail server (with proper configuration and security) is not a trivial task.
[09:11] <NMR> how do i modify the parameters for a command in sudoers, to allow it to like, "use" sudo privs as it carries out its task with subcommands
[09:11] <NMR> like i want to be able to run /etc/init.d/ssh restart , but
[09:11] <NMR> give it permissions to run its like "ssh kill"
[09:11] <NMR> and to load the host keys and stuff, which it apparently also needs sudo privs or somethin
[09:12] <vehemoth> those folders in the home directory with the different pictures (Pictures, Documents etc) how are those done, can I create my own so that when I change the theme the icon also changes?
[09:13] <Gumby> maxagaz: good luck
[09:13] <NMR> the ssh restart process starts if i just enable ssh restart in sudoers, but it cant finish its routine, cause it doesnt have permission for example to kill the old ssh
[09:13] <Shogoot> rudra,  ubuntu server seems  a good idea to me to, do soem research on the www on how to set up a mailserver properly from ubuntu server OS.
[09:14] <bjhaid> I am connected to two different networks, on eth0 network and wlan0 interfaces, I can access internet on the wlan0 and some local resources on eth0, how do I configure my machine to access both resources, i think it can be done with routes, but I am mixing it up somewhere
[09:14] <Shogoot> rudra, to make it proper it takes a little more then just basic knowledge, so go and fid yourself some guides on how to :)
[09:14] <ikonia> bjhaid: access both resources ? you already are accessing both resources
[09:15] <bjhaid> ikonia: i cant access both of them, i am connected, to only one @ a time, I need to define how the machine would route traffic to the other, which I really dont know how to get done
[09:15] <ikonia> bjhaid: are both of them internet services ?
[09:16] <bjhaid> ikonia: only wlan0 has internet
[09:16] <bjhaid> ikonia: wlan0 cannot access some local resources which eht0 has access to
[09:16] <ikonia> bjhaid: what are the IP ranges ?
[09:17] <bjhaid> ikonia: eth0 has a class B address and wlan0 has a class C address
[09:17] <rudra> thanks <Shogoot>
[09:19] <maxagaz> Gumby, it didn't change anything...
[09:22] <niwi_> Can anyone tell me if a zombie process will be killed of automatically? :)
[09:22] <Gumby> maxagaz: something that also fixed some of my touchpad issues before (I dont appear to need it now though) is to add i8042.nopnp to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= line in /etc/defaults/grub
[09:23] <Gumby> maxagaz: then run sudo update-grub and reboot
[09:23] <lws> niwi_: generally no
[09:23] <niwi_> lws: Ok, thanks.
[09:23] <Gumby> alternately, you can edit your grub entry on boot and just add  i8042.nopnp to the end of the linux line and then boot
[09:24] <bjhaid> ikonia: any ideas?
[09:24] <maxagaz> Gumby, I had it already => GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="i8042.nopnp"
[09:24] <Gumby> ok then.  I have no more ideas then :(
[09:24] <ikonia> bjhaid: are they on the same ranges though (sorry I was just talking to someone)
[09:24] <Gumby> I assume you have tried emulate3buttons = yes ?
[09:24] <maxagaz> Gumby, thanks for your help
[09:25] <bjhaid> ikonia: no, one is a class B address and the other class C
[09:25] <maxagaz> Gumby, only in the class
[09:25] <Gumby> maxagaz: and to copy you are highlighting text and not ctrl+c
[09:25] <maxagaz> Gumby, actually, the problem seems deeper
[09:25] <ikonia> bjhaid: so the resources you can't access, are they name based resources, or IP
[09:25] <maxagaz> Gumby, highlighting text ? I'm using vim...
[09:26] <Gumby> maxagaz: I just mean copy/middle button paste
[09:26] <maxagaz> Gumby, it seems the touchpad isn't recognized by the system
[09:26] <bjhaid> ikonia: I think i should explain better, wlan0 is on a different network, eth0 is on a different network, I can use only one interface @ a time, but think with routes I should be able to connect to both networks via only one interface
[09:26] <Gumby> at all?
[09:27] <krishnan> Im using ubuntu 10.04 for my desktop and when I lock my computer and then unlock it after some time the wi-fi disconnects and connects only when I restart my computer. What to do? PLease help.
[09:27] <ikonia> bjhaid: I understand that, connect both at the same time and tell me which resources are failing, I suspect the non-internet one will be the issue
[09:27] <maxagaz> Gumby, it seems the touchpad isn't recognized by the system, I forgot the command to test it, it's not lspci
[09:28] <bjhaid> ikonia: the non-internet fails right now
[09:30] <Gumby> maxagaz: try cat /dev/input/mice
[09:31] <Gumby> maxagaz: then touch the touchpad.  if you see output it is being recognized
[09:31] <xxzz> hi, I want to create Ubuntu usb from 10.10 install cd and use the key to install it on netbook, is it possible
[09:31] <xxzz> i can install on key as well but then i will need ubiquity
[09:31] <maxagaz> Gumby, I get some results
[09:31] <maxagaz> Gumby, could it come from this grub variable ?
[09:32] <Gumby> maxagaz: I'm a bit confused.  How are you testing if the touchpad works?
[09:32] <ikonia> bjhaid: connect both, look at the routing (or pastbin it) what interface should the traffic you want to send to go out of
[09:33] <xxzz> can someone please help me
[09:34] <Shogoot> The wtmp file under /var/log/wtmp is a file that logs the login logout of a given system, i nanoed it and got lots of symbols (i guess its HEX) anyone know how i convert taht to human language?
[09:34] <maxagaz> Gumby, at least two things do not work : 1. it's not pasting when clicking on both buttons after highlighting some text (while it works using the mouse), 2. there's no touchpad tab in the Mouse prefs
[09:35] <Shogoot> Gumby, have you tried the program "pointing devices" from the ubuntu software thingy? It workt for me and i also had a unresponsive touchpad.
[09:36] <Gumby> Shogoot: I'm not having mice problems... maxagaz is.
[09:36] <Shogoot> Gumby, oh sorry.
[09:37] <Shogoot> maxagaz, have you tried the program "pointing devices" from the ubuntu software thingy? It workt for me and i also had a unresponsive touchpad.
[09:37] <Shogoot> The wtmp file under /var/log/wtmp is a file that logs the login logout of a given system, i nanoed it and got lots of symbols (i guess its HEX) anyone know how i convert taht to human language?  :)
[09:37] <Gumby> his responds, but doesnt paste when pressing both buttons.
[09:38] <Gumby> maxagaz: have you tried unplugging the usb mouse and then restarting X (or even rebooting)
[09:38] <Gumby> if you have a mouse plugged in and it is grabbing /dev/mouse0 then that is possibly the only mouse configured to emulate 3 buttons
[09:38] <Gumby> the touchpad might be getting /dev/mouse1 or something else
[09:39] <maxagaz> Shogoot, yes I have it too, but nothing about the touchpad in it
[09:40] <maxagaz> Gumby, yes, I tried that too
[09:41] <xxzz> hi, I want to create Ubuntu usb with hardisk install capability from 10.10 install cd and use the key to install it on netbook, is it possible
[09:41] <Gumby> maxagaz: can you paste your xorg.conf ?
[09:41] <Shogoot> maxagaz, there should ba a touchpad 'tab'
[09:41] <Gumby> Shogoot: our sony laptops touchpads are kind of weird in that regards
[09:41] <Gumby> they dont seem to show up anywhere as touchpads
[09:42] <maxagaz> Gumby, perhaps I should change /dev/psaux by /dev/input/mice in xorg.conf
[09:42] <Gumby> maxagaz: paste your xorg.conf
[09:42] <Shogoot> im gonna stay out of this, Gumby is far better troubleshooter then me ;)
[09:42] <Gumby> (not here)
[09:42] <Gumby> www.pastebin.com
[09:43] <maxagaz> Gumby, http://pastebin.com/0iJwxdgx
[09:46] <NMR> looking for a tip about a sudoers issue,  got a command (ssh reload) in a user privilege directive, but, when attempted to run, it does not have permissions to run its subprocesses (such as ssh kill)
[09:46] <NMR> is there a way i can modify that entry
[09:46] <NMR> to give permissions to ssh restart's subroutiens
[09:48] <Gumby> maxagaz: for fun, I'd unplug the external mouse and reboot.  see what your results are
[09:49] <maxagaz> Gumby, I didn't have it with me actually
[09:50] <Gumby> maxagaz: sorry then, I am out of ideas.
[09:51] <Gumby> I'd have to install fresh to be able to figure it out or boot from a livecd and its almost 3am which means its way past my bestime
[09:51] <Gumby> good luck with getting it to work
[09:56] <natalie> howdy all. I have lubuntu based on 10.4, any idea what tools i could use to get ubuntu one up. it's xfce
[09:56] <natalie> mainly just want a folder to sync
[10:00] <Stanley00> natalie: I just can find ubuntuone-client...
[10:01] <natalie> yeah, will give it a go. not sure how it will go
[10:02] <haha_guyz> can anyone help me my thumbdrive cannot be mount in ubuntu..
[10:02] <haha_guyz> i also try open it using windows and it say the drive need format.
[10:03] <nergal_> Hi, I've just installed openssh server and I can't login with my user account. I've never experienced this problem before. I get permission denied when I enter password. I've tried "AllowUsers <my_user>" without success. I also tried to use pam with sshd.allow and still not success. Any ideas what I've missed?
[10:03] <haha_guyz> but the disk utility detect it..
[10:04] <natalie> haha_guyz, do you know what file system you have on the drive?
[10:04] <aruncn1> @nergal_  please check the log messages. what does it say?
[10:05] <nergal_> aruncn1: ah ofc...sigh...I'm tired. Now I see, wrong path to my tcsh shell was the problem
[10:05] <nergal_> thanks ;P
[10:06] <haha_guyz> fat32 i think..
[10:07] <natalie> so when you connect the drive, it is not mounted automatically? when you say you can see it in disk util, what does it say?
[10:12] <haha_guyz> natalie: yes,its not mount automaticaly and in disk utility i doesn't show my partition in thumbdrive at all..
[10:13] <computer_> Hey there all you fine open source folks, say is there anything I can do about making the windows management less impossible while using 11.10 Beta2
[10:13] <computer_> ?
[10:13] <haha_guyz> natalie,  yes,its not mount automaticaly and in disk utility i doesn't show my partition in thumbdrive at all..
[10:14] <smw> computer_, ditch unity?
[10:14] <computer_> I hear you smw, hear you
[10:14] <Sidewinder1> !oneiric > computer_
[10:15] <haha_guyz> natalie, i also df command in terminal and it doesn't show my pendrive
[10:15] <computer_> Sure ubottu
[10:15] <natalie> haha_guyz, what do you see in ls /media
[10:15] <smw> ubottu is a bot
[10:15] <smw> computer_, ^
[10:16] <computer_> Oh sorry about that channel ops
[10:16] <Weust`> hi, i added multiple network configurations in interfaces eth0 eth1 ... , each has a gateway, but how can i define the DEFAULT gw ?
[10:17] <haha_guyz> natalie, nope nothing..
[10:18] <obert-> thanks the same.
[10:18] <natalie> haha_guyz, try sudo fdisk -l and see if it lists the drive.
[10:18] <learnubuntu> I use ubuntu without network-manager, in order to configure everything from scratch and things work fine that way. However, sometimes, for instace when I have connected to a different network than usual, I have problems (when trying to connect to the network I usually connect) and such problems remain even if I turn off the computer, invoke ifup, ifconfig, etc. manually, they seem to be problems "running deep", so to speak. They a
[10:20] <schnitzi> Sorry, bit of a n00b here - I'm trying to get my VGA output going under Natty...  First step, I think, is to generate an xorg.conf, which I'm having some probs with.  Is this the proper forum for this question?
[10:21] <g3nt3lg1ant> Weust try in command line 'route add default gw (ip address) etho1 or etho2' and i think that will work
[10:21] <haha_guyz> natalie, nope..
[10:21] <Weust`> g3nt3lg1ant: but if i reboot the server, that entry will be gone ?
[10:22] <haha_guyz> natalie, does this mean my thumbdrive need to be format?
[10:22] <natalie> haha_guyz, if it's not important information on it, i would just bite the bullet and do it
[10:23] <natalie> haha_guyz, you could see if it even detects the drive properly with lsusb, but that wont tell you much
[10:23] <learnubuntu> I use ubuntu without network-manager, in order to configure everything from scratch and things work fine that way. However, sometimes, for instace when I have connected to a different network than usual, I have problems (when trying to connect to the network I usually connect) and such problems remain even if I turn off the computer, invoke ifup, ifconfig, etc. manually, they seem to be problems "running deep", so to speak. They a
[10:24] <natalie> haha_guyz, testing is detailed here also
[10:25] <natalie> haha_guyz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TestingStorageMedia but if you dont see it listed as a device in fdisk you might not have much luck
[10:26] <g3nt3lg1ant> Weust is it for a VPN??
[10:26] <Weust`> g3nt3lg1ant: no its just a server
[10:26] <Weust`> 8 servers with 4 nics running ubuntu server
[10:27] <haha_guyz> natalie, thank you natalie...
[10:27] <virgo> hi, how can i make some applicatoin to be executed when i type the application name into terminal?
[10:27] <Weust`> but if i ping from a foreign network, it wants to send the icmp reply back on a random gw
[10:27] <g3nt3lg1ant> Weust: what else have you tried??
[10:27] <haha_guyz> natalie, i think i want to format it..
[10:27] <Weust`> g3nt3lg1ant: the order in /etc/network/interfaces file
[10:27] <Weust`> and reboot every time
[10:28] <Weust`> so i thought i'd check irc
[10:28] <haha_guyz> natalie, if it still can't.. ithink i need to change my thumbdrive...
[10:30] <g3nt3lg1ant> Weust: yeah cause all that I can think of it either to 'sudo ip route add default via 10.0.0.1' or 'sudo route add default gw 10.0.0.1' for a server
[10:30] <Weust`> ok g3nt3lg1ant i'll look for a way to fix that
[10:30] <Weust`> thnx g3nt3lg1ant
[10:30] <g3nt3lg1ant> Weust: all good
[10:32] <timfrost> schnitzi: xorg in natty doesn't need a config file, unless you have a video card that needs proprietary drivers
[10:32] <sms_> About file permissions, who is/are "group"?
[10:32] <Dazzled> what is the most current usplash or xsplash?
[10:33] <Dazzled> I want to make an animated bootscreen
[10:33] <Dazzled> and stay as far away from Plymouth as humanly possible
[10:33] <plouffe> I just copied my Ubuntu install to a new laptop (ext3 partition), then did a chroot to the new install to try and do a grub-install and grub-update, but I get the error "is /dev mounted" (I excluded /dev on the transfer). Any ideas how to install grub2 from the liveCD?
[10:34] <MaximLevitsky> I need a guide on howto use console for newbie, to refer them to
[10:34] <Sidewinder1> !permissions | sms_
[10:34] <MaximLevitsky> Any suggestions?
[10:34] <bazhang> !terminal > MaximLevitsky
[10:34] <plouffe> the error is cannot find devive for / (is /dev mounted?)
[10:35] <Sidewinder1> MaximLevitsky, Here's a link, it's old but has many sublinks with commands for CLI: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171507
[10:36] <MaximLevitsky> Sidewinder1: asks me for login for some reason
[10:36] <MaximLevitsky> Sidewinder1: its not guide for me, I know console well
[10:36] <ludri7> Hi, does somebody know how to make caret (^) symbol via keyboard?
[10:36] <MaximLevitsky> shift+6
[10:37] <AlessonZaire> ^
[10:37] <Sidewinder1> MaximLevitsky, Oh OK, that means that it is an archived thread and you need to join ubuntuforums.org in order to view. Go ahead and join; it's free. :-)
[10:37] <MaximLevitsky> Sidewinder1: I have account there
[10:38] <Sidewinder1> MaximLevitsky, Then, login and paste that link.
[10:38] <g3nt3lg1ant> MaximLevitsky: how much of a newbie are you??
[10:38] <ludri7> MaximLevitsky,  is keymap dependent? I get with shift+6 & symbol. Estonian keymap is used.
[10:38] <MaximLevitsky> everyone is a newbie there or there
[10:40] <g3nt3lg1ant> Does anyone know how to set up OpenVPN??
[10:40] <MaximLevitsky> ludri7: could very well be
[10:41] <MaximLevitsky> try other numeric keys with shift
[10:41] <MaximLevitsky> I had this with rusian keyboard
[10:42] <ludri7> MaximLevitsky, ok, thanks. found it. with mine layout it is Alt Gr  + letter ä.  ^^
[10:43] <virgo> does anyone know shell script command to create shortcut?
[10:44] <MaximLevitsky> virgo: ln -s
[10:44] <calmpitbull> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/687531/
[10:44] <calmpitbull> problem installing
[10:45] <urlin2u> calmpitbull, we don't advise on backtrack.
[10:45] <calmpitbull> ok
[10:45] <calmpitbull> it is only repository
[10:45] <karthick87> Hi can anyone help me with puppet configuration?
[10:46] <urlin2u> !backtrack
[10:50] <varikonniemi> hello
[10:50] <gael> szalut
[10:50] <varikonniemi> is it normal for the calendar in ubuntu to change only after i click on it
[10:51] <varikonniemi> normally it is 1 day, sometimes even 3 days after before i click on it
[10:51] <urlin2u> varikonniemi, change, in what way?
[10:51] <varikonniemi> the date i see in upper right corner
[10:52] <varikonniemi> i have to click it once, to show it, once again to hide it, and after this it has updated the view
[10:52] <urlin2u> varikonniemi, in other words the date is wrong unless you click it?
[10:52] <varikonniemi> has been going on for months
[10:52] <varikonniemi> yes
[10:53] <varikonniemi> it does not update unless clicking it
[10:53] <urlin2u> varikonniemi, should not be happening, hard for me to say why.
[10:54] <varikonniemi> yea i figured it out it *should* not be happening :)
[10:54] <varikonniemi> i have lived in the belief it will be updated shortly
[10:54] <varikonniemi> but now many months later, i felt compelled to ask :)
[10:55] <urlin2u> varikonniemi, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1603243
[10:55] <krishnan> My wi-fi gets disconnected whn I lock and unlock my computer. Im using ubuntu 10.04. Pls help
[10:57] <urlin2u> krishnan, do you have it set to auto connect and all users?
[10:57] <varikonniemi> eh?
[10:57] <varikonniemi> it says to go and right-clicl
[10:57] <varikonniemi> i get it right by just only opening and closing the calendar
[10:58] <krishnan> urlin2u: Yes I do. I dnt have this problem at home wi-fi. I face this problem at officer wi-fi.
[10:58] <urlin2u> varikonniemi, just find time and date and reset it.
[10:58] <varikonniemi> ??
[10:58] <varikonniemi> i just need to open and close the calendat and it updates with that
[10:58] <varikonniemi> no need to make it harder than it is
[10:59] <urlin2u> varikonniemi, a reset is to hard for you.
[10:59] <urlin2u> krishnan, does it ask for a password to restart tthe wifi when this happens
[11:00] <varikonniemi> yeah i have no idea what you are talking about.. the time&date settings menu item has never done anything for me so i dont know whats behiund it
[11:00] <varikonniemi> the reset button?
[11:00] <krishnan> urlin2u: it tries at first and then asks. however thrs no need to enter as the correct password is already present. Still the problem persists.
[11:01] <Johnny_Giggles> is there a development channel for Ubuntu?
[11:02] <varikonniemi> i have no idea why i should be required to hit a reset button once per day to have my calendar up to date?
[11:02] <urlin2u> krishnan, so without "your password" it connects.
[11:02] <krishnan> urlin2u: no without the password it doesnt connect.
[11:03] <urlin2u> krishnan, not sure really.
[11:05] <krishnan> urlin2u: Now Im using the wi-fi. it is present in network connection and thr is no problem with tht. If I now lock and go and come back after 15 mins it will be disconnected and try to connect once I log in. but it never connects. and just keeps trying.
[11:06] <krishnan> Im using the wi-fi. it is present in network connection and thr is no problem with tht. If I now lock and go and come back after 15 mins it will be disconnected and try to connect once I log in. but it never connects. and just keeps trying.  Pls help
[11:09] <sho-do> /~
[11:09] <Johnny_Giggles> When packages are compiled for Ubuntu, what optimization level is generally used?  Is it -O3 ?
[11:09] <varikonniemi> 02
[11:09] <Johnny_Giggles> ok
[11:10] <David_Guetta> g
[11:10] <varikonniemi> (sorry i have no clue, just keeping up with the trend of the other helpers of this cahnnel)
[11:11] <zHammeRz> lol
[11:11] <glebihan> varikonniemi, don't do that please
[11:12] <Sonderblade> i'm pretty sure it is -O2 -g which it has been for ages
[11:12] <varikonniemi> as i said, im sorry, just feel frustrated when users luike uriln2u troll me
[11:13] <ubuntuisgay> lol
[11:14] <F_U_C_K> g
[11:14] <F_U_C_K> cool
[11:15] <F_U_C_K> -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>. not good
[11:16] <elky> Change your nick if you wish to stay in this channel please.
[11:17] <Adnan> hi people, I have a wlan usb stick with a 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. and i cannot find the drivers can someone help
[11:17] <Johnny_Giggles> Whoever gave me the O2 answer, I did see it before my computer crapped itself
[11:17] <F_U_C_Kchanged> lol
[11:17] <Myrtti> F_U_C_Kchanged: not good enough
[11:17] <herkupus> ...and the award for most childish behaviour goes to ubuntuisgay/opensuse/kubuntu/F_U_C_K
[11:18] <Myrtti> herkupus: no need for commentary, thanks
[11:19] <thinced> Adnan: have you tried lspci
[11:19] <thinced> and check for chip information
[11:19] <Adnan> it is a usb thumbstick
[11:19] <Adnan> so lsusb
[11:19] <thinced> lsusb then :)
[11:19] <herkupus> thinced: he already gave the usb id
[11:21] <johwil> Hi, I wounder if anyone has succeeded in installing the Tascam us144mkII external sound card on Ubuntiu?  I can't find any success stories on the net..........
[11:21] <ikonia> johwil: tascam as a rule has terrible support with linux
[11:22] <ikonia> johwil: that doesn't mean your card won't work, but the norm is not good support
[11:22] <thinced> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187 Wireless Adapter <- Adnan like this?
[11:22] <johwil> so it seams, ikonia
[11:22] <johwil> the net is empty, ikonia
[11:23] <Adnan> thinced: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[11:24] <thinced> hmm... I was hoping some chip information like RTL8187
[11:24] <herkupus> thinced: seems to be RTL8188CUS: http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1598,1630,quote=1
[11:25] <virgo> is it possible to execute shell script with mouse clicks so that applications starts without prompt?
[11:25] <Adnan> i checked various ubuntuforums but i alway mixed the numbers up
[11:25] <johwil> ikonia, I haf a thought thou, may be there is another USB2 external sound card with better linux support? I could try to mimic that!
[11:26] <ikonia> mimic ?
[11:26] <ikonia> johwil: the issue is there is no kernel based "driver" for these cards, you can't just pick another usb external sound card to use it's kernel module for your device
[11:26] <johwil> ikonia, install that driver instead..
[11:26] <ikonia> johwil: you can't do that
[11:26] <krishnan> wi-fi gets disconnected from my laptop running ubuntu 10.04. pls help
[11:27] <talin> hello. how can i install the latest teamspeak? i  tried apt-get install teamspeak-server... but it tries to install teamspeak 2. i want teamspeak 3
[11:27] <johwil> ikonia, how bad :(
[11:27] <thinced> Adnan: They provide linux drivers
[11:27] <thinced> Adnan: at realteks site I mean: http://www.wireless-driver.com/realtek-rtl8188cus-rtl8192cu-windows-linux-driver-ver1011/
[11:27] <thinced> Adnan: download and compile. Not sure if there is deb packages for it
[11:28] <Adnan> thinced: i didnt find my number
[11:28] <thinced> Adnan: ?
[11:28] <Adnan> 8176
[11:29] <johwil> ikonia, are there anything I could do?
[11:29] <herkupus> Adnan: the usb id is not necessarily the chipset name
[11:29] <Adnan> ok
[11:29] <ikonia> johwil: contact the vendor ask them to provide any linux information they have? ?
[11:29] <Adnan> where can i find the chipset name
[11:29] <herkupus> Adnan: i guess i's RTL8188CUS
[11:29] <talin> how can i install teamspeak-server 3 with apt-get?
[11:29] <Adnan> ill trz that
[11:30] <johwil> ikonia, I'll try that,
[11:30] <glebihan> talin, with apt-get, you can't
[11:30] <krishnan> wi-fi gets disconnected from my laptop running ubuntu 10.04. pls help
[11:30] <Adnan> talin: apt-get install teamspeak-server
[11:30] <talin> glebihan: hmm, why? can't you choose between 2 and 3? i think 3 is stable?
[11:30] <tomodachi> krishnan: it could be a crappy wifi driver. Have you checked the forums? you have the same issue if you change to wep instead of wpa?
[11:31] <glebihan> talin, stable maybe but not in the repos yet
[11:31] <tomodachi> krishnan: on your wifi netork device
[11:31] <talin> glebihan: hmm, okay
[11:31] <glebihan> talin, if you reallly want to install it, download it from the website and install it manually
[11:31] <krishnan> tomodachi: no I do not face this problem in wep and in some wap wi-fi.
[11:32] <talin> glebihan: thank you
[11:33] <glebihan> talin, you're welcome
[11:34] <krishnan> tomodachi: any help
[11:35] <plouffe> how can it be that (from liveCD) I run "sudo update grub-pc" gives the message "grub-pc is already the newest version. 0 updated" but when I run sudo grub-pc it tells me "command not found"?
[11:37] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:37] <plouffe> and what does update-grub breaking off with "grub-probe: error: cannot stat aufs" mean?
[11:41] <dexter> where can I checl if a rainbow hop pocket surf wireless mouse is ubuntu or linux compatible?
[11:41] <dexter> check*
[11:42] <tomodachi> dexter: it is i believe. all usb devices are pretty muchstanrard. like mice and keyboards
[11:43] <dexter> tomodachi, the packet didnt say anything of linux compatibility, and I need to install some drivers, with instructions only for windows, will it work under ubuntu?
[11:45] <glebihan> dexter, you very likely won't need to install any drivers
[11:45] <dexter> would you recommend logitech?
[11:45] <dexter> as the mouse brand
[11:47] <BluesKaj> dexter, I have alogotech on my other linux pc..works fine.
[11:47] <glebihan> dexter, no particular recommendation, any should work fine
[11:47] <ir0b0t> How can using Yahoo like in windows for Video|Voice call?
[11:47] <BluesKaj> err logitech
[11:48] <dexter> ok, laser or digital mouse?
[11:48] <glebihan> dexter, that's your choice depending on what you prefer
[11:48] <dexter> ok
[11:51] <dori922> hey! :) i have a question on SSH Keys... i have set up a sftp chrooted user: "test1", and now i want to give him an sshkey to use.(have the config set up and following this guide:" http://blog.famzah.net/2011/02/03/secure-chroot-remote-file-access-via-sftp-and-ssh/ ")
[11:51] <syme> just go on to your local host
[11:51] <syme> ssh-keygen
[11:51] <dori922> if i set up a public key through a keygen command(still learning these commands but that not my q :P) can i just send that key to client-pc1?
[11:52] <syme> that will make your ssh key pair in /home/.ssh
[11:52] <dori922> and client-pc1 logs in with pub-key?
[11:52] <syme> then use this
[11:52] <syme> ssh-copy-id -i /path/to/rsa.pub user@remotehost
[11:52] <dori922> im able to make the keygen pair but i dont understand how the clients access the key to use(i dont have direct access to clients)
[11:52] <dori922> ooh
[11:52] <syme> that sends your public key copy to the accepted hosts
[11:52] <syme> file
[11:52] <syme> called authorized_users
[11:53] <syme> on the remote server
[11:53] <FloodBot1> syme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:53] <sipior> authorized_keys, to be precise.
[11:53] <dori922> can they be used on windows PC's?
[11:54] <dori922> or is a workaround needed
[11:54] <dori922> yes they can..
[11:54] <dori922> so its just a matter of copying the keypair to the client-pc1?
[11:55] <syme> yeah
[11:55] <syme> sorry about that miscommunication
[11:55] <syme> authorized_keys
[11:56] <syme> on windows you may have to generate the ssh pair in a like
[11:56] <syme> program if you dont have openssh installed
[11:56] <syme> and ssh-copy-id idk if its in windows
[11:56] <Pici> !enter | syme dori922
[11:56] <syme> aw >.<i gotta stop spamming
[11:57] <Pici> dori922: If you're using putty to connect to your Linux computers, you'll need to convert your key into a format recognizable by putty. There is a utility that comes with their install to let you do that. Then all you do is specify that keyfile in your putty config.
[11:57] <dori922> i dont mind the spam ;P
[11:57] <dori922> Pici:  i was thinking of using sftp
[11:57] <dori922> err winscp
[11:57] <syme> yeah
[11:57] <syme> putty has its own thing
[11:57] <ikonia> putty-key-gen
[11:58] <ikonia> it makes them into a ppk format
[11:58] <Guest16660> hi
[11:58] <Pici> dori922: winscp supports private keyfiles as well, I do not know if it requires putty's keyformat though.  Both putty and winscp both do support putty's key agent though.
[11:58] <dcorbin_work> I have an ubuntu system with a time problem.  NTP is setting the  time to UTC (I think) even though the system is configured to be local
[11:58] <karni> Hi guys! If there are any Android users out here, we'd like you to give latest Ubuntu One Files a spin. There was a serious issue that caused CPU load on slower/older devices, and I'm seeking users to help us test if this fix resolves the issue: http://goo.gl/RlQRk v1.0.3.1
[11:58] <dcorbin_work> I've change /etc/default/rcS so it says UTC=no
[11:58] <karni> Much thanks!
[11:59] <Guest16660> hi every body
[11:59] <dori922> thanks a million for this syme , Pici  and ikonia gonna go set this up now :D
[11:59] <karni> Oh, it's about uploading multiple pictures, so if you happen to test it, snap a few and see how the auto-upload feels. Thanks!
[11:59] <syme> dori922 , ssh-copy-id is part of the linux openssh thing
[11:59] <dcorbin_work> Oddly, when if I stop ntpd and run ntpdate, it sets the time correctly.  However, running ntpd with the "-g" option does not set it correctly.
[11:59] <syme> you may not have it on windows, but you can always scp , and ssh in and use cat
[11:59] <Pici> karni: Please do not advertise here, this is a support channel for Ubuntu only.  #ubuntu-offtopic might be more appropriate.
[12:02] <karni> Pici: Do you really believe this is advertising? I took 3 lines on this busy channel to seek fellow Android users to help us test an Ubuntu-related app (i.e. Ubuntu One related). And you, I am sure, know the #ubuntu channel is one of most attended. Give developer some slack :)
[12:02] <Pici> !guidelines > karni
[12:04] <Calinou> !guidelines > Calinou
[12:05] <executionist> in ubuntu, is there a way to see thumbnails of images in image folders?
[12:05] <executionist> sry, I mean when selecting a file for attachment
[12:06] <lws> executionist: what program?
[12:07] <lws> i believe any program that uses a standard GNOME or KDE file selection dialog should give you an option of views, including list, icons, thumbnails
[12:07] <mrintegrity> executionist: not in the gnome file chooser unfortunately
[12:07] <executionist> gmail, when attaching images I have to click each to see a preview
[12:07] <mrintegrity> could be wrong though ^
[12:07] <lws> stand by
[12:07] <lws> by the way, gmail will let you drag files onto the browser window to attach them
[12:08] <lws> ah, mrintegrity is correct, no way to select thumbnails from gnome file chooser
[12:08] <lws> drag and drop instead
[12:08] <executionist> k thx
[12:15] <uoou> hello, I saw someone yesterday mention a room for oneric but I forget where, could someone please remind me?
[12:15] <Myrtti> !oneiric
[12:16] <uoou> thank you :)
[12:18] <ServerTech> Help : Okay so I installed Ubuntu 11.04 Server Edition without setting up DHCP, and now after i have plugged in my internet to the server, it does not find it. What should i do?
[12:18] <Adnan> ok, tried various things and it is the 8188cu and now im a little confued and need some assistance
[12:18] <essai> hi all
[12:20] <SimonJai> hey guys
[12:20] <SimonJai> i just replaced my 9600GT video card with a HD6450
[12:20] <SimonJai> but i'm not getting anything on my monitor
[12:20] <SimonJai> does ubuntu not like changing hardware after install?
[12:21] <uoou> you'll still be using the nvidia drivers and you've now got an ATI card
[12:21] <lws> ServerTech: add the following line to /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:21] <uoou> I don't think it auto-detects that the drivers you specified will no longer work
[12:22] <uoou> you'll have to revert to the vesa drivers I think if you then want to proceed and install ATI drivers in a graphical way
[12:22] <Milossh> hey; ubuntu 11.04 installs chromium after removing firefox. I tried unchecking it in synaptic, but that doesn't work. how do I override that?
[12:22] <lws> SimonJai: try sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old and restart X
[12:22] <Milossh> that works vice versa too
[12:22] <SimonJai> uoou: so what do i need to do?
[12:22] <SimonJai> ok
[12:22] <uoou> I'm not entirely sure, but I'll have a google
[12:23] <uoou> ok, no need, lws has rescued us
[12:23] <ScatterBrain> OK, so how do I disable the two sounds when starting up Ubuntu?  (the drums and the whatever default sound after logging in.)
[12:23] <SimonJai> when i reboot and boot up
[12:23] <SimonJai> i can see the ubuntu loading screen
[12:23] <erpone> #j crypto
[12:23] <SimonJai> but it can't see the login screen
[12:23] <ir0b0t> What is name app in linux for yahoo messenger to make video and voice call?
[12:23] <Milossh> ScatterBrain, system, preferences, sound
[12:23] <lws> reasoning behind that: driver will be specified in xorg.conf, if you remove that then xorg should try and autodetect
[12:23] <SimonJai> let me try...
[12:23] <SimonJai> fingers crossed
[12:23] <uoou> yeah that's natural SimonJai, it's not passed over to the graphics drivers yet
[12:24] <SimonJai> fair enough
[12:24] <lws> note that in newer versions of xorg, xorg.conf isn't even used by default
[12:24] <SimonJai> yes nice!
[12:24] <SimonJai> thanks alot uoou and lws
[12:24] <lws> so it's not actually necessary to have an xorg.conf, only if you want to do strage stuff likje dual monitors
[12:24] <uoou> now you want to run the additional drivers thing and getthe ATI drivers installed
[12:24] <lws> hang on, so that worked, simonjai?
[12:24] <uoou> (assuming you want hardware acceleration)
[12:25] <SimonJai> yeah i removed the xorg.conf file
[12:25] <SimonJai> rebooted and i can see the desktop
[12:25] <SimonJai> now to install the driver
[12:25] <lws> shit, my suggestions never work first time
[12:25] <uoou> I think installing the proprietary drivers writes an xorg.conf, lws. Maybe only if you change settings.
[12:25]  * lws pats self on back
[12:25] <uoou> hahaha
[12:25] <SimonJai> lol lws, it does now
[12:25] <SimonJai> :D
[12:25] <lws> uoou: yeah, nvidia-settings persists its configuration by writing an xorg.conf
[12:26] <SimonJai> i actually modified my xorg.conf
[12:26] <uoou> ok, oneric channel is silent, I wonder if anyone here can help
[12:26] <SimonJai> dvi -> hdmi (samsung lcd tv)
[12:26] <SimonJai> i had to strip the audtio
[12:26] <SimonJai> audio*
[12:26] <Lynna> Hello - anyone have any experince running a SL Viewer on Linux ? I just installed Ubuntu and I think it's missing some stuff necessary for running that program.
[12:26] <Pici> uoou: Then you need to be patient there.
[12:26] <lws> but yeah, new Xorg autoconfigures everything on the fly, does a rather good job of it actually
[12:26] <Milossh> hey; ubuntu 11.04 installs chromium after removing firefox. I tried unchecking it in synaptic, but that doesn't work. how do I override that?
[12:26] <uoou> I installed Gnome 3, but every time I reboot/logout it's defaulting to Unity, regardless of what I chose last - is there a way around this or a way to set Gnome 3 as default?
[12:27] <uoou> aye Pici, just giving it a shot here too as I'm not sure it's oneric specific as such
[12:27] <lws> uoou: select the appropriate session type at login?
[12:27] <SimonJai> now i hope i don't lose the sound again =/
[12:27]  * ScatterBrain goes to see if the sounds are gone now.
[12:27] <uoou> yeah I can do that but it's a pain (only slight obviously, just an annoyance)
[12:27] <ServerTech> Help : Okay so I installed Ubuntu 11.04 Server Edition without setting up DHCP, and now after i have plugged in my internet to the server, it does not find it. What should i do?
[12:27] <lws> servertech: see my reply to you above
[12:28] <lws> add 'iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:28] <lws> to /etc/network/interfaces
[12:28] <lws> and reboot
[12:28] <uoou> SimonJai, if you lose sound it'll probably be because it's trying to use the HDMI sound on the graphics card, just tell it not to in sound settings and all should be fine
[12:28] <SimonJai> yeah i know
[12:28] <uoou> ok
[12:28] <SimonJai> nvidia didn't let me do that
[12:28] <SimonJai> i had to modify the EDID
[12:29] <uoou> heh, odd
[12:29] <lws> damn the future
[12:29] <SimonJai> okay restarting now
[12:29] <lws> at least 3.5mm audio jacks always work
[12:29] <SimonJai> hope i get the sound
[12:29] <SimonJai> ><
[12:29] <uoou> hahaha
[12:29] <kai> man...
[12:29] <lws> ServerTech: success?
[12:29] <lws> hlo, kai
[12:30] <ScatterBrain> Milos|Netbook: That got rid of the login sound, but not the drums after GDM (login screen) loads.  Where can I get rid of that one?
[12:30] <Milos|Netbook> wat
[12:30] <kai> how do I fix the headers for 10.04 2.6.35-30? linux-headers-2.6.35-30 is a virtual package and the -generic package that I want for my kernel doesn't seem to have the correct provides
[12:30] <ScatterBrain> Sorry wrong person.  Xchat auto-complete.
[12:30] <SimonJai> woooot it works
[12:30] <SimonJai> <3 ati
[12:31] <SimonJai> now to get utorrent running
[12:31] <ServerTech> thanks lws. mIRC doesn't seem to highlight my name for some reason
[12:31] <ServerTech> :/
[12:31] <kai> I can't use the 10.04 stock kernel version because I run LXC VMs, and the stock kernel is broken for that
[12:31] <ScatterBrain> So does anyone know how to stop the login screen sound (the drums)?
[12:31] <lws> ServerTech: so, success?
[12:31] <lws> ScatterBrain: you mean when the login screen becomes ready?
[12:32] <ScatterBrain> Yes.
[12:32] <lws> sounds like it would be a property of the GDM settings
[12:32] <lws> stand by
[12:32] <lws> System > Administration > Login Screen > "Play Login Sound"
[12:33] <lws> uncheck that
[12:33] <ScatterBrain> lws: Yeah, Been there.  That checkbox is not selected.  :(
[12:33] <lws> really?
[12:33] <Adnan> i need some help with my wlan stick
[12:33] <ScatterBrain> lws: yup
[12:33] <lws> hella strange
[12:33] <lws> lemme go digging around in the gdm conf
[12:34] <Mas0ne_> Ok, what happened to compiz-core-abiversion today? Anyone know?
[12:35] <lws> bahaha, things found in the gdm config:
[12:35] <lws>   # FIXME: is this all right?  Is this completely on crack?
[12:35] <lws>   # What this does is move the xkb configuration from the GDM_PARENT_DISPLAY
[12:36] <uoou> :D
[12:36] <lws> no mention of sound, though
[12:36] <ServerTech> lws: didn't work:/ i have two ethernet cards, but i think disabled the inbuilt one in the bios, i don't much remember.
[12:37] <lws> ServerTech: when you do 'ifconfig', what interfaces do you see?
[12:37] <lws> i have eth0, eth1, wlan0
[12:38] <ScatterBrain> lws: yeah, it's weird.
[12:38] <lws> ScatterBrain: damn, you ruined my streak
[12:38] <lws> i was 2 for 2 problems solved
[12:39] <lws> IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! ...
[12:39]  * uoou makes lws a nice cup of tea
[12:39] <ServerTech> lws: i see only local loopback:l btw i have 2 ethernet cards and 1 wlan card.
[12:40] <lws> ServerTech: do you see the network cards when you do a lspci?
[12:40] <lws> for example: 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[12:42] <ServerTech> lws: Yes, as my inbuilt one is diabled via the bios, it isn't there. Now, i have Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter and VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105/VT6106S [Rhine-III] Wired Ethernet Controller
[12:43] <Adnan> when compiling my driver i get the following message
[12:43] <Adnan> v
[12:43] <Adnan> Compile make driver error: 2, Please check error Mesg
[12:43] <Adnan> where can i see the message
[12:47] <ServerTech> lws_: Yes, as my inbuilt one is diabled via the bios, it isn't there. Now, i have Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter and VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105/VT6106S [Rhine-III] Wired Ethernet Controller.
[12:47] <lws> sorry, back on station
[12:48] <lws> can you try sudo ifconfig eth0 up; sudo ifconfig eth1 up?
[12:48] <lws> then another ifconfig
[12:48] <ServerTech> sure. hold on
[12:50] <ServerTech> lws: Thanks. Now the ether controller is working and visible in ifconfig. But i still can't access the internet.
[12:50] <ServerTech> ethernet*
[12:53] <lws> servertech: OK, stand by
[12:53] <lws> servertech: can you please try "sudo dhclient eth0"?
[12:54] <lws> then another ifconfig
[12:54] <SimonJai> can i ask
[12:54] <SimonJai> what port do you open for torrents?
[12:55] <lws> SimonJai: it's a range, actually
[12:55] <SimonJai> what range?
[12:55] <lws> you can set the range in your client's settings
[12:55] <SimonJai> my torrent doesn't go past 30kb/s
[12:55] <SimonJai> =/
[12:55] <SimonJai> but you gotta port forward
[12:55] <ServerTech> huge range, depends on what port you set on your torrent client
[12:55] <luc_> can any body help i did a fresh format and install of ubuntu 11.04 and it just freezes on black screen with blinking curser
[12:56] <ServerTech> lws: chown and chmod: failed to get attributes of
[12:56] <lws> whaa
[12:56] <Adnan> can someone look at my error message and tell me what is wrong with it??
[12:56] <ServerTech> lws: '/etc/resolv.conf': No such file or directory
[12:56] <Adnan> v
[12:56] <Adnan> http://pastebin.com/hDDACKQa
[12:56] <ServerTech> lws: sorry pressed enter too soon:l
[12:56] <SimonJai> i can't stand any bt clients except utorrent
[12:56] <SimonJai> i gotta run wine
[12:56] <lws> ServerTech: change tack
[12:57] <lws> err, lemme look up the appropriate incantation
[12:57] <ServerTech> okaii:P
[12:57] <xangua> SimonJai: there is utorrent for linux
[12:57] <ServerTech> SimonJai: i think there are bt clients for linux?
[12:57] <SimonJai> it'ss like alpha
[12:57] <ServerTech> so? still works
[12:57] <xangua> well at least the server
[12:57] <ServerTech> lol
[12:58] <SimonJai> does it work well?
[12:58] <SimonJai> it hasn't been updated since march?
[12:58] <ServerTech> SimonJai: i guess so. never tried. Well in the options, it lets you select a port. Get a random port which is not in use, add exceptions to firewall and port forward.
[12:59] <SimonJai> nah i got the port forwarded
[12:59] <SimonJai> just asking what port you guys use
[12:59] <SimonJai> wow my torrent just hit 8kb/s!
[12:59] <ServerTech> well random ports, it has a randomize button
[12:59] <SimonJai> yeah i know
[12:59] <ServerTech> SimonJai: Did you like select a good torrent with a nice seed peer ratio?
[12:59] <SimonJai> yeah
[12:59] <SimonJai> eztv
[13:00] <SimonJai> i can get like +100kb/s on my windows comp
[13:00] <ScatterBrain> lws: sorry.  But I don't think this is your fault.  It sounds like it might be a small bug.
[13:00] <SimonJai> but ubuntu... it's hovering around 5kb/s
[13:00] <ServerTech> SimonJai: Well Eztv is a torrent portal. I'm asking 'bout the torrent.
[13:00] <lws> sudo nmcli con up id "Auto eth1"
[13:00] <lws> ^ ServerTech: try that incantation
[13:00] <SimonJai> there's good health
[13:00] <SimonJai> dw
[13:00] <ServerTech> lws: thanks. hold on lemme try it
[13:01] <SimonJai> the torrent is relaly good health
[13:01] <SimonJai> this is really shitting me, i don't understand
[13:01] <lws> also, SimonJai: what's wrong with transmission?
[13:01] <ServerTech> lws: dangit.. nmcli: command not found. lmao.
[13:01] <SimonJai> i just don't lie it
[13:01] <SimonJai> not as easy to use as utorrent
[13:01] <SimonJai> well to me
[13:01] <lws> ServerTech: yeah, i kinda half expected that
[13:02] <ServerTech> lol
[13:02] <SimonJai> lie = like
[13:02] <lws> 'nmcli' is the command-line version of the network manager applet
[13:02] <grahambae> When I tag my FLAC files in Easytag, the changes are't recognised by Amarok or Rhythmbox. I have both of the "Write ID3v1 and v2" checked, as well as "Write ID3 tags in FLAC files" and "Automatically convert old ID3v2 tag versions".
[13:02] <ServerTech> i wanna install gnome.. only if i had internet connectivity.. it would be so much easier. lws.
[13:02] <wildbat> !wine | SimonJai use utorrent then .....
[13:02] <lws> to be perfectly clear, you added the line i orignally suggested to /etc/network/interfaces, and restarted?
[13:03] <ServerTech> SimonJai: I also kinda get slow torrent speeds on ubuntu (linux in common) for some reason
[13:03] <SimonJai> yeah i am using utorrent with wine
[13:03] <SimonJai> i get REALLY SLOW speeds
[13:03] <SimonJai> my torrent is hovering around 0.1kb/s
[13:03] <SimonJai> atm
[13:03] <Miko> server irc.epiknet.org
[13:03] <SimonJai> connected to 15 seeds and 14 peers
[13:03] <xangua> !enter | SimonJai
[13:03] <SimonJai> really don't understand....
[13:03] <wildbat> SimonJai: are you firewalled?
[13:03] <SimonJai> unless ubuntu has default firewall, then no
[13:04] <ServerTech> wildbat: pretty sure he's firewalled
[13:04] <ServerTech> .
[13:04] <ServerTech> dang i pressed .
[13:04] <wildbat> lol ~
[13:04] <oCean> SimonJai: for support with applications on wine, join #winehq
[13:04] <ServerTech> lws: any ideas on what i could do?
[13:04] <lws> ServerTech: can youi please paste the contents of /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin?
[13:04] <ServerTech> lws: well its enough for me to type.. lmao. so yeah hold on
[13:05] <SimonJai> is 1500 the default MTU?
[13:05] <luc_> any help on installing ubuntu
[13:05] <congge> hello
[13:05] <lws> SimonJai: yeah, 1500 is the default MTU, and don't mess with that unless you Know What You Are DOing
[13:05] <ServerTech> luc_: repeat question?
[13:05] <lws> setting the MTU isn't going to make your torrent go faster
[13:05] <congge> 哪个看得懂中文？
[13:06] <congge> 呵呵呵
[13:06] <lws> you will only anger the ethernet gods, and they shall split your oversized packets in twain
[13:06] <OerHeks> !cn | congge
[13:06] <victor_uva> Which packages are supposed to make AMD Graphic Cards work, apart from xserver-xorg-video-ati and mesa-utils? I'm doing some tests with Stellarium: if I open it in Ubuntu Oneiric, there's no problem; however, doing the same with Debian Squeeze, Stellarium works very slowly and words are shown incorrectly. In Debian Squeeze free drivers are the default install, and if I install fglrx, Stellarium works great; so there must be some packages in Ubuntu that
[13:06] <victor_uva> are installed by default and are not in Debian; otherwise Stellarium should work the same in both OS
[13:07] <congge> this chat can not use chinaese
[13:07] <LocoenelCoco> when i "apt-get upgrade" on my ubuntu11 it tries to install packages i dont even have installed instead of jus upgrading the ones i have. what should i do to upgrade just the packages i really hav?
[13:07] <victor_uva> I would like to know which packages in Ubuntu are installed by default and make AMD Graphic Cards work properly, in order to compare with the default Debian packages
[13:07] <ServerTech> lws: #This file describes... (description)... ** # The loopback network interface ** auto lo ** iface loinet loopback ** iface eth0 inet dhcp. ** denotes line change.
[13:07] <lws> \n is the standard notation for linebreak ;)
[13:07] <lws> so you restarted and that didn't work for you, and you don't have networkmanager instealled
[13:08] <id10t> anyone running a local ubuntu mirror with apt-mirror?  i've got a question about linking to the /ubuntu directory... if i have multiple sources (main canocial and partners) and they both have /ubuntu directories, how do i deal with that?
[13:08] <ServerTech> lws: ty:P i didn't use irc (or ubuntu) for like months.. :
[13:08] <lws> try replacing the 'dhcp' line with simply 'auto eth0'
[13:08] <lws> restart, etc, etc
[13:09] <zykotick9_> victor_uva, FYI ubuntu ships non-free firmware, while Debian does not (not sure if that explains your AMD/ATI difference, but it might)
[13:09] <LocoenelCoco> hello how to make "apt-get upgrade" to only upgrade packages i realy have and dont install other packages?
[13:09] <ServerTech> lws: thanks. started working:D
[13:09] <lws> :D
[13:09] <lws> i am heroic
[13:09] <ServerTech> :P true;D
[13:09] <lws> LocoenelCoco: what kinds of 'other packages' is it trying to install?
[13:09] <lws> give a sample of the package names
[13:10] <LocoenelCoco> lws, its trying to install samba, cups and many other
[13:10] <lws> LocoenelCoco: those are all packages you already have installed as part of the base ubuntu install
[13:10] <victor_uva> zykotick9_: Debian has firmwarelinux-free installed but firmwarelinux-nonfree is not installed; I installed this one, rebooted and Stellarium was still giving problems
[13:10] <LocoenelCoco> lws, i already have removed them
[13:10] <LocoenelCoco> lws, and it stills try to install, how o workaround it?
[13:10] <lws> LocoenelCoco: right, the metapackage 'ubuntu-desktop' is probably trying to pull them in again
[13:10] <LocoenelCoco> *to
[13:11] <lws> LocoenelCoco: solution is to apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[13:11] <ServerTech> lws: would you rather choose gnome, kde or xorg?
[13:11] <lws> LocoenelCoco: though i have no idea why you would want to remove samba and cups
[13:11] <zykotick9_> victor_uva, try in #debian for Debian issues - I don't think the ATI drivers are in firmwarelinux-nonfree
[13:11] <thomas> hello.
[13:11] <LocoenelCoco> lws, i dont have printer nor share files
[13:11] <lws> ServerTech: 'xorg' underlies both gnome and KDE, null question ;)
[13:11] <thomas> is it posible to install ubuntu in a none  grapahicmode?
[13:11] <urupica> sometimes my keyboard keys get remapped randomly. really weird. using xubuntu 11.04. any idea?
[13:11] <xangua> !alternate | thomas
[13:12] <thomas> in the graphicmode is hanging when i try to install and he ask "location"
[13:12] <ServerTech> lws: right i just was thinking that.. and i started googling:l i feel bad not using linux for so long.
[13:12] <luc_> ServerTech, i did i fresh format and a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04  on my harddrive  and it willnot boot up
[13:12] <lws> ServerTech: personally I prefer gnome, but i've been a heavy KDE user in the past; right now I happen to prefer gnome because it's a bit cleaner and things integrate a bit better
[13:12] <victor_uva> what it's cleared is that Ubuntu must have something installed that Debian doesn't, because in Ubuntu my AMD Radeon HD 6370 M works great without fglrx (in fact, fglrx makes it work worse), and in Debian Squeeze I couldn't get free drivers working
[13:12] <ServerTech> lws: yea i prefer gnome too
[13:12] <lws> ServerTech: note: using 'classic Ubuntu' == gnome2, nont of this "unity" for me
[13:12] <victor_uva> zykotick9_: I asked in #debian channel and I was told to ask here hehe
[13:13] <ServerTech> luc_: bios boot up order set correctly?
[13:13] <luc_> ServerTech, yes
[13:13] <LocoenelCoco> lws, it didnt worked, same thing
[13:13] <LocoenelCoco> lws, sill trying to install those packages
[13:13] <lws> no idea; also not sure why you're so set on cleaning out cups and samba
[13:13] <LocoenelCoco> *still
[13:14] <LocoenelCoco> lws, bcuz i dont need it
[13:14] <luc_> ServerTech, do u think its because i formated it ext 4 or something
[13:14] <ServerTech> hmm luc_.. ubuntu needs ext4
[13:14] <lws> LocoenelCoco: sounds like premature optimisation to me, you aren't exaclty going to save scads of RAM or anything by uninstalling a few daemons
[13:14] <lws> ServerTech: incorrect, ubuntu will install on any filesystem
[13:14] <ScatterBrain> lws: Found it: http://tinyurl.com/3g69mpq
[13:14] <lws> possible exceptions of FAT32 and NTFS
[13:15] <luc_> ServerTech, live cd works perfect
[13:15] <LocoenelCoco> lws, ok thx anyway
[13:15] <ScatterBrain> lws: for the sounds.
[13:15] <lws> ScatterBrain: whaaaaaaaaaat
[13:15] <ServerTech> i would have wish to use ntfs for ubuntu, possible lws?
[13:15] <lws> ScatterBrain: that is totally an intuitive place to put that setting.
[13:15] <ScatterBrain> lws: tell me about it.
[13:15] <lws> ServerTech: i believe it doesn't work, i tried it before
[13:16] <urupica> sometimes my keyboard keys get remapped randomly. really weird. like a virus. using xubuntu 11.04. any idea?
[13:16] <ServerTech> luc_: live cd is running from the cd, so doesn't prove the hard drive is working fine. Have you tried re-installing? Well i can't advice anything else. Try another hard drive.
[13:16] <lws> ServerTech: doesn't work because it doesn't support UNIX permissions, which makes linux apps sad when they try and make files like /etc/passwd non-readable and can
[13:16] <Fabs> hello, i have an ubuntu server 10.04 LTS box running ppp (ipv4) and nat masquerading. I've set up 6to4 tunneling now, using the anycast endpoint. I'm using radvd and router advertisements appear to be working because my network machines show the advertised prefix at the start of their ip address and the default gateway is correctly set to the linux router's local interface link local address. My ubuntu router can ping ipv4 addresses such as ipv4.
[13:16] <Fabs> google.com. I have chagned the sysctl setting for ipv6 forwarding to 1. I am using iptables and have set the ipv6 policies to accept for input output and forward. Yet my LAN machines are unable to reach the outside ipv6 world. Does anyone know how to help troubleshoot my problem? Thanks
[13:16] <zykotick9_> ServerTech, you can use NTFS partitions, but you CAN'T install onto an NTFS partitions, if that's what you want
[13:17] <Fabs> you sort of can with wubi
[13:17] <lws> ServerTech: zykotick9_ is correct
[13:17] <ServerTech> zykotick9_, lws: yes i have a second drive to ntfs. I wanted to install on ntfs you know, if we could.
[13:17] <luc_> ServerTech, i did put another  drive in to yesterday
[13:17] <lws> ServerTech: linux also doesn't like your /home to be on NTFS, again the permissions issue
[13:18] <zykotick9_> ServerTech, use a "real" filesystem, not NTFS
[13:18] <lws> ServerTech: my partitioning scheme is ext4 root /, ext4 /home, NTFS 'shared data' between windows and linux, which is all my music and movies and so forth
[13:18] <Fabs> ServerTech, is there a reason you are eager to use NTFS? You can get drivers for windows to read ext2/3 partitions
[13:18] <Fabs> Or you can put shared driver on the ntfs partition, but you will need to install to a linux partition
[13:18] <lws> ServerTech: Fabs is also correct, i recommend 'ext2fsd' for read-write access to ext3 partitions
[13:19] <lws> ext2ifs is a little crummy
[13:19] <ServerTech> Fabs: nahh i just prefer ntfs rather. I don't have windows installed on my ubuntu computer.
[13:19] <LocoenelCoco> how to make my wireless connect when ubntu11 starts? i think it doesnt bcuz it aways ask the keyring thing before i connect after the startup
[13:19] <xangua> LocoenelCoco: auto log in enables'¿
[13:19] <ServerTech> luc_: then i guess i can't help:/ does it show an error? What happens exactly when you boot up?
[13:19] <Fabs> ServerTech, you can use NTFS but not for your system. Maybe you can use symlinks to put certain folders on the NTFS drive
[13:19] <lws> LocoenelCoco: Click on networking icon, "Connection Settings", go into the settings for your WLAN connection, check the box "make this connection available to all users" and "connect automatically"
[13:20] <saTTY> LocoenelCoco, please check the autostart in NetworkManager
[13:20] <LocoenelCoco> autostart already checked
[13:20] <Fabs> is anyone here familiar with ipv6 configuration for ubuntu server, or is there a good place I can ask?
[13:20] <saTTY> then save the key LocoenelCoco
[13:20] <lws> you also need the 'available to all users' checkbox
[13:20] <scottj> do browsers support some kind of urgency message that highlights the tab and notifies the OS?
[13:20] <LocoenelCoco> saTTY, how?
[13:21] <LocoenelCoco> lws, will try that
[13:21] <lws> @ServerTech, Fabs, zykotick9_ : don't hate on NTFS, it's miles ahead of ext3
[13:21] <luc_> ServerTech, in live cd boots up and regulary just a black screen with a blinking curser
[13:21] <aleuck> hello
[13:21] <lws> it was a good filesystem when it was released
[13:21] <zykotick9_> lws, your hilarious
[13:22] <ServerTech> lws: thats why i prefer it.. i've been using windows for about 11 years now. So its just.. preferrable. lol.
[13:22] <lws> zykotick9_: i'm being perfectly serious; NTFS is at least as good if not better than ext3 when considered on its own merits
[13:22] <lws> really, we should all just use zfs and move on
[13:22] <Fabs> lws, i love ntfs, but i wouldn't trust it with the open source drivers even though by now they're probably pretty stable and well-tested
[13:23] <Fabs> lws, you are welcome to use debian-freebsd and use zfs
[13:23] <guping> whois ServerTech
[13:23] <ServerTech> do you have to guping?
[13:23] <lws> Fabs: pretty much; NTFS is technically nice, but the open-source drivers make me nervous
[13:23] <aleuck> hello, i've installed awesome wm but I can't figure out how to initialize the wireless network manager ubuntu uses
[13:23] <ServerTech> well anyone has ideas about stopping ping timeouts? it happened to me when i used irc last... doesn't seem to be happening now
[13:23] <lws> aleuck: 'nm-applet'
[13:23] <Fabs> indeed lws, i would only use it on windows
[13:23] <Fabs> everyone i bid you farewell in my quest to find someone with a brain of ipv6 experience
[13:23] <luc_> serv could it be that my other harddrive in my computer with all my movies on is in ntfs format
[13:24] <aleuck> lws: thanks :D
[13:24] <kai> any idea on how to work around https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-backport-maverick/+bug/847828 ?
[13:24] <lws> aleuck: other keywords are 'network-manager'
[13:24] <ServerTech> luc_: not really. did you format your harddrive for ubuntu before installation?
[13:24] <compdoc> ServerTech, ping timeouts using names rather than ip addresses?
[13:25] <ServerTech> compdoc: don't get it?
[13:25] <luc_> ServerTech, yes during install
[13:25] <LocoenelCoco> lws, ty it worked
[13:25] <ServerTech> luc_: hmm.. what happens during boot? does anything show up?
[13:25] <lws> LocoenelCoco: sweet, that's three problems solved tonight
[13:26] <LocoenelCoco> hehe
[13:26] <lws> i'm winning! bi-winning! TRI-winning!
[13:26] <luc_> ServerTech, no just bios steps
[13:26] <compdoc> settle down, charlie
[13:26] <LocoenelCoco> i installed 11.04 yesterda im trying to get used to unity
[13:27] <bluefire> does anyone know how to download DEB packages using ubottu ?
[13:27] <luc_> ServerTech, is there a better hard drive formatter then in disk utilities
[13:28] <congge> ubuntu 软件中心
[13:28] <Pici> bluefire: Using ubottu? What exactly are you looking to accomplish?
[13:28] <Pici> !zh | congge
[13:28] <bluefire> i downloaded some packages using some link on internet which had "ubottu" in it, someone on IRC told me, but now i forgot the link
[13:28] <ServerTech> luc_: it may be memory problems. Try running the memory test on the cd? I can't really think of anything else.
[13:28] <luc_> ServerTech, because it did have windows 7 on it before
[13:28] <congge> google it
[13:29] <Pici> bluefire: ubottu is our channel bot. Perhaps you mean on http://packages.ubuntu.com  ?
[13:29] <LocoenelCoco> bluefire, u can download .deb packages here http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=dpkg
[13:29] <lws> LocoenelCoco: if you can't get used to unity, you can always revert o 'ubuntu classic' at login
[13:29] <Pici> LocoenelCoco: You should not install packages out of the debian repositories onto Ubuntu.
[13:29] <LocoenelCoco> lws, yeah i know
[13:29] <LocoenelCoco> Pici, thats up to him if want to install or not hehe
[13:30] <LocoenelCoco> lws, im just giving it a try
[13:30] <Pici> LocoenelCoco: Its not funny. Please don't try to mislead our users.
[13:30] <ServerTech> lws: when'd ya start using linux? random question 'cause atm i fail at linux.
[13:30] <bluefire> i want to download deb packages of an application along with all its dependencies so that in future i may be able to install that application offline
[13:30] <LocoenelCoco> Pici, im just answering his question
[13:31] <Pici> !behelpful | LocoenelCoco
[13:31] <bluefire> the link i am talking about generated a list of all dependent deb packages
[13:31] <LocoenelCoco> omg
[13:31] <bluefire> i just forgot that link
[13:31] <LocoenelCoco> haha
[13:31] <Pici> bluefire: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/
[13:31] <ahmad_> hi guys... im new to ubuntu and i got a question regarding Nvidia.
[13:31] <lws> ServerTech: err, when i was in 2nd year uni, which is five years ago now
[13:32] <bluefire> Pici: yeah exactly this is what i wanted, thank you
[13:32] <congge> you are good
[13:32] <ServerTech> dang lws.
[13:32] <lws> ServerTech: stuck with it because all the cool kids were using linux and I wanted to be cool, yo
[13:32] <congge> i am newer
[13:32] <ahmad_> my screen only gets to 640x480. i cant change it.
[13:33] <LocoenelCoco> Pici, his question was: "how to download .deb packages", i gave the answer http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=dpkg i cant c nothing wrong on that...nvm
[13:33] <ServerTech> ahmad_: nvidia graphics cards require third party drivers. Install the driver and it would be fine.
[13:33] <Pici> LocoenelCoco:  Your answer may have been correct on #debian, but it is not correct for this channel.
[13:33] <LocoenelCoco> nah
[13:33] <ahmad_> severtech: i installed the driver thought the hardware driver program
[13:34] <Dazzled> is there any way I can dual monitor in Ubuntu without turning my screen into surreal art?
[13:34] <LocoenelCoco> hahha
[13:34] <Dazzled> (11.04)
[13:34] <lws> Dazzled: nvidia or ATI graphics card?
[13:34] <ServerTech> ahmad_: enable the driver?
[13:34] <LocoenelCoco> surreal art
[13:34] <Dazzled> ATI, Catalyst driver enabled
[13:34] <lws> you've tried using ATI's settings program?
[13:35] <Dazzled> I tried it's (Management) GUI
[13:35] <Dazzled> in "Screens" the monitor gets detected
[13:35] <ahmad_> servertech: it says activated but not in use
[13:35] <Singham> bluefire : sudo apt-get install -d <name of package>. When download is complete you can copy the downloaded .deb packages from /var/cache/apt/archives
[13:35] <bluefire> Pici: how did you find this link? i googled for hours to find this link but did not find anything
[13:35] <Dazzled> I enabled it tehre
[13:35] <ServerTech> ahmad_: not enabled then.
[13:36] <ahmad_> servertech: how can i enable it then?
[13:36] <Dazzled> and Catalyst sees it, but claims it's disabled
[13:36] <Pici> !offline | bluefire
[13:36] <Dazzled> and when I try to activate it by selecting an option like clone screen, I don't see anything changing
[13:36] <BoomerBile> where does ubuntu keep it's xorg.conf?
[13:36] <ServerTech> ahmad_: i don't exactly remember the location:/ i would tell you after my ubuntu finishes installation
[13:37] <lws> BoomerBile: by default there is no xoreg.conf, X11 configuration is performed fully on the fly
[13:37] <ahmad_> ServerTech: ok thx :D
[13:37] <lws> BoomerBile: but if you do have an xorg.conf for some reason, then it will be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:38] <BoomerBile> lws, hmm same as my gentoo box... why doesn't compositing work with no xorg.conf?
[13:38] <lws> BoomerBile: eh, worksforme?
[13:38] <ServerTech> ahmad_: ^_^ do you have the nvidia settings application?
[13:38] <ahmad_> ServerTech: yes
[13:38] <bullgard4> How do the DEB program packages libreoffice-core and libreoffice-core:386 differ? The associated descriptions are identical.
[13:38] <BoomerBile> lws what card?
[13:39] <ServerTech> ahmad_: which nvidia graphics card are we talking of here?
[13:40] <zykotick9_> BoomerBile, if you have Intel then no xorg is required for compiz stuff (for nvidia/ati that might be different)
[13:40] <ahmad_> ServerTech: Geforce 250GTS
[13:40] <lws> BoomerBile: nvidia and radeon
[13:40] <BoomerBile> zykotick9_, heh, well i'm using intel actually...
[13:41] <lws> and intel, come to speak of it (my laptop uses intel)
[13:41] <BoomerBile> zykotick9_, not using compiz though, kde
[13:41] <lws> shouldn't matter
[13:41] <BoomerBile> i wonder why it's not working
[13:41] <BoomerBile> it worked the first time
[13:41] <BoomerBile> after one reboot, nothing
[13:42] <ServerTech> ahmad_: 2560x1600 thats the maximum digital resolution. Open up the application and does it allow you to change the resolution? Also, is your monitor capable of going to such a resolution?
[13:42] <BoomerBile> well, i guess i'll try this xorg.conf and see what happens... brb
[13:43] <Dazzled> so no dual monitor on ATI then in 11.04?
[13:43] <ahmad_> ServerTech: i can only change to 640x480. My monitor is an 22" monitor that can handle 1,680 x 1,050.
[13:45] <ServerTech> ahmad_: hold on. my gui update will finish in sometime.
[13:45] <ahmad_> ServerTech: ok thx
[13:46] <lws> ServerTech: are you installing ubuntu-desktop on your server? :P
[13:46] <vercingetorix> Is there a tool for ubuntu/linux that cleans up your metadata in your music files automatically from online sources? Like say you have [track - artist - genre] [Track%%1 - DJ Artist - http://random-spammy-sites-signature.com] into [Awesome Beats - DJ Artist - Rap] ?
[13:46] <lws> vercingetorix: try checking the plugins for your favourite music player
[13:46] <vercingetorix> I've been looking for something like this for awhile
[13:46] <lws> i believe amarok had a plugin along those lines, though i havne't used amark since the terrible 3.0 release
[13:47] <lws> seriously, UI disaster
[13:47] <ServerTech> lws: apparently yep im installating gnome with the recommended apps though i dont need them lol
[13:47] <lws> ServerTech: don't feel bad, my server is running the full ubuntu desktop
[13:47] <ServerTech> lws: im very unconfortable with a only command line system.
[13:47] <lws> i used to be an elitist, but i realised a GUI is just faster sometimes
[13:47] <ServerTech> an*
[13:48] <vercingetorix> hmm, there seems to be some "Metadata Fixer" in banshee that I just got (<3 banshee btw) so i'll try that. thx lws
[13:48] <lws> vercingetorix: no worries
[13:48] <lws> that's 4!
[13:48] <ServerTech> lws: i just use the terminal whenever i need it. I am not really an expert with command line.
[13:49] <lws> certain things are faster for me to do at the command line
[13:49] <kai> lws: there's still bug 847828 if you feel bored ;)
[13:49] <lws> other things are faster to do in the gui
[13:49] <Dazzled> so, now it's dual screen when the login screen shows
[13:49] <lws> kai: that is black magic, dogg
[13:49] <lws> kai: not touching that issue with a barge pole
[13:49] <Dazzled> but when I log in, the left screen helpfully disappears
[13:50] <Dazzled> and I don't know why
[13:51] <Dazzled> yay
[13:51] <AFD> Any reason the root user on ubuntu would be able to open PDFs and not other users?
[13:51] <Dazzled> it seems I had to return to the Screens thing
[13:51] <Dazzled> and enable it _again_
[13:52] <sipior> AFD: sure, if the read permission bits on the file are set poorly.
[13:52] <AFD> the permissions on the PDF file are definitely ok for the user
[13:52] <sipior> AFD: and the containing directory?
[13:52] <AFD> yep
[13:52] <Dazzled> I just hope that when I boot again on one screen when I'm home, it won't be puzzleview again
[13:53] <bullgard4> How do the DEB program packages libreoffice-core and libreoffice-core:386 differ? The associated descriptions are identical.
[13:53] <sipior> AFD: don't suppose we can get you to paste some details?
[13:53] <AFD> they can read and write all files in their home folders (the same goes for all 30 users we have on this server) - it's just the root user that can open PDFs. All other file types seem ok
[13:53] <kai> lws: fair enough
[13:53] <kai> and a blocker for me,, unfortunately
[13:54] <sipior> AFD: how are they attempting to open the pdfs?
[13:54] <AFD> just a double click
[13:54] <AFD> sipior thanks for helping btw
[13:54] <sipior> AFD: can we get an example permissions list?
[13:55] <kai> ok, let's try if I can fix my other issue then
[13:55] <AFD> sipior I think you might be on to something actually
[13:55] <kai> when booting, grub fails to find any partitions on my secondary hdd
[13:55] <AFD> just double checking permissions now
[13:55] <jonavastyle> where i can find  source codes?  i want to look firefox source's.  sorry for green question.
[13:56] <jrib> !source | jonavastyle
[13:56] <kai> the primary hdd has a GPT, the secondary an old-fashioned MBR
[13:56] <lws> man, if there is source code that is full of black magic, firefox must be it
[13:56] <kai> I suspect that this comes into play somehow, the MBR seems ok looking at it from the disk utility
[13:56] <lws> well, there would be a lot more magic in the linux kernel source, but i wouldn't look at the firefox source for fun...
[13:57] <kai> also, when I boot from the primary hdd later I can mount partitions from the secondary hdd just fine
[13:57] <kai> but grub can't find the partition
[13:58] <kai> ah, I need GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="part_msdos"
[14:00] <AFD> sipior: the permissions did seem wrong but that is corrected and the problem remains
[14:00] <AFD> anything else to help troubleshoot?
[14:00] <sipior> AFD: can we get an example permissions list?
[14:01] <AFD> If I ls -l or right click I can see the permissions are now correct
[14:01] <night-hacks> im using default installed gnome 2.32 on 11.04 , it uses X or wayland ?
[14:01] <AFD> the user and group is both cman1
[14:03] <adamcobain> jaka
[14:03] <jonavastyle> where i can find any projects to help other developers? or e.g. now i will take firefox sources and then, when i find (if i find) any bugs, and fix it, where i need to post what i have done?
[14:03] <AFD> sipior: the permissions are now correct... can you help me troubleshoot a little further please
[14:04] <IdleOne> !contribute > jonavastyle
[14:04] <sipior> AFD: you expect me to spend my time helping, and then ignore any question i put to you. you've wasted enough of my time, i think.
[14:04] <jonavastyle> IdleOne: ?
[14:05] <luc_> how much space should there be allocated on  a install
[14:05] <AFD> sipior: I said please and pointed out that the permissions were now correct... How would you like your favoured evidence of a "permissions list"
[14:05] <sipior> AFD: i wouldn't. i have other things that need doing.
[14:05] <luc_> and will it delete all my movies and files on me drive
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> luc_: you can expand an existing partition, use gparted for it, your data won't be erased
[14:07] <llutz_> hopefully
[14:07] <compdoc> heh
[14:08] <luc_> MonkeyDust, im installing and it is only showing o space
[14:09] <luc_> MonkeyDust,  how do u get to gparted on a install
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> luc_: i missed the install part in your question
[14:10] <luc_> mon it doesnt show how much space it will use on install
[14:10] <ahmad_> ServerTech: Are you done?
[14:10] <TehAndrewRyan> hey, i'm using ubuntu 10.10 with the regular desktop ("classic desktop") and i have to use the frequency scaler add in the panel to make my CPU run properly when gaming
[14:11] <TehAndrewRyan> can i fix the frequency scaling so that ondemand works better?
[14:11] <ServerTech> ahmad_: sadly there's still 10 minutes left. dang it its acting slow.
[14:11] <luc_> MonkeyDust, does it matter that my drive is set up for ntfs with my movies on it
[14:11] <ServerTech> ahmad_: i have to install my nvidia geforce too, so i would be happy to check anyways:P
[14:12] <ahmad_> ServerTech: oh ok:P
[14:12] <ahmad_> ServerTech: btw how do i cd to a folder with a space in the terminal?
[14:13] <llutz_> ahmad_: cd "the folder" or cd the\ folder
[14:13] <luc_> MonkeyDust,  i tried installing and it says no root system is defined please correct this from the partitioning menu
[14:13] <ahmad_> llutz_: ok thx :D
[14:13] <miles> Hello, is there a way to allow users to login without a password in LightDM (11.10) ?
[14:14] <Pici> miles : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[14:14] <TehAndrewRyan> is there a way to make the CPU scale the frequencies properly so i don't have to manually set them to avoid game lag?
[14:16] <luc_> does anybody know hot to fix   i tried installing and it says no root system is defined please correct this from the partitioning menu
[14:16] <LocoenelCoco> i recommend using Clementine to play music its really good and have features like amarok
[14:16] <LocoenelCoco> its my new player
[14:18] <luc_> any help
[14:20] <Hyperbyte> luc_, you need to define a / filesystem.  Let it partition automatically if you don't need manual customization.
[14:21] <luc_> Hyperbyte, it came up on a fresh install that i have my movies installed on
[14:21] <BoomerBile> [ 10030.100] (**) Extension "Composite" is enabled <-- it's enabled... but apparently not working...
[14:21] <kivod> hi
[14:21] <VampsDaBeast> let's see who has time and brains to help today, I've got a tower that has 2 sound card. i'm tryin to set them up as 2 different outputs. how would i do this?
[14:22] <kivod> does anyone knows how to reset the updates? I've the feeling that some of them get skipped
[14:22] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, I have that setup... what's there to do..
[14:22] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, what DE?
[14:22] <luc_> Hyperbyte, it picked my drive
[14:22] <VampsDaBeast> ubuntu clasic
[14:23] <aleuck> kivod: it checks all packages everytime you run update
[14:23] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, Ah, i have no idea... don't use gnome
[14:23] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, really easy in kde
[14:23] <edbian> kivod: It is impossible to skip updates (unless you manually hold them back).  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[14:23] <bastidrazor> luc_: i fairly sure you've been told / can not be put on an ntfs drive
[14:23] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile : does it carry over from KDE to Gnome?
[14:23] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, i don't know, i don't use gnome lol... i could go check
[14:24] <luc_> Hyperbyte, why not it reads and plays all my files and movies in it
[14:24] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, in kde, in the configuration panel, multimedia, you can order your sound devices
[14:24] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, what little i know bout ubuntu, those are just frontend displays, confs like that would be written to the kernel
[14:24] <kivod> edbian k good to know... just got some bug in the middle of an update and when after restarting my pc it told me that everything was updated ...
[14:24] <kivod> edbian suppose its fine ...
[14:25] <edbian> kivod: Can you explain the bug?
[14:25] <auronandace> luc_: you don't install linux on ntfs
[14:25] <kivod> edbian my pc just freezed ^^
[14:25] <edbian> kivod: I think you're fine then
[14:25] <edbian> kivod: The command I gave would fully update in any case
[14:25] <blue112> Hello here.
[14:26] <blue112> How can I raise my ulimit FD on ubuntu ?
[14:26] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, hmm i've nothing against KDE.. let me install that and see if it works like i'm hoping for.
[14:26] <kivod> edbian ok thanks
[14:26] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, the kernel has little to do with that part of your sound card... in order for two cards to work you need certain kernel config options enabled, and then you have to either configure alsa yourself to output to the cards in a certain way, or use the options in your program to select the card to output to
[14:26] <luc_> how can i partition it then to linux style and still keep half for my movies then
[14:27] <auronandace> !partitioning | luc_
[14:27] <id10t> anyone running a local ubuntu mirror with apt-mirror?  i've got a question about linking to the /ubuntu directory... if i have multiple sources (main canocial and partners) and they both have /ubuntu directories, how do i deal with that?
[14:27] <blue112> Halp
[14:27] <BoomerBile> I installed kubuntu-full, I reboot my laptop... now compositing is enabled, according to the xserver log, and I've restarted X... trying to enable shadows and transparency in KDE is not working
[14:27] <froq> so my audio will eventually go bad after I play music for a certain amount of time... anyone know how to reload the audio driver without rebooting???
[14:28] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, what i'm tryin to end up with is settin one sound card to main sounds (ie games, editing, and the like) the other card i want for my music.
[14:28] <ahmad_> ServerTech: i will be back in 20 min.
[14:28] <jabbajac> I need some help with JNI
[14:28] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, yeah i know... i did the same thing... i have problems with apps like skype grabbing one sound card and not letting other apps use it... if you have too much trouble let me know i can go look over my config, but it's not ubuntu, it's gentoo
[14:29] <jabbajac> I have a jar, jpcap that is dependent on libpcap.so and libjpcap.so
[14:29] <froq> Anne gets a
[14:29] <jabbajac> Both are in the correct directories and referenced
[14:29] <jabbajac> but I still get --> http://pastebin.com/A1V4jV0a
[14:29] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, understood.. i just need to get it setup...runnin a 3 day old ubuntu natty install...
[14:30] <jabbajac> also ldd on libpcap and libjpcap show no missing libraries
[14:30] <jabbajac> so I'm completely confused as to what is not being loaded
[14:30] <BoomerBile> i have nothing against gnome VampsDaBeast but i haven't used it since e16 was it's default window manager
[14:31] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, understand that. i have yet to find the GDM that i will truly stick with..
[14:31] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, same
[14:31] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, what is the main package for KDE, so i can look thru the SPM and install it..
[14:32] <f3bruary> In firefox and chrome when I watch a flash video like on youtube the video keeps freezing ( audio continues ) and when I scroll with my mouse the video resumes and several second later it freezes again untill I use scroll. It happens in both full screen and normal view
[14:32] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, i seem to turn a lot of heads using kde, using gnome, and showing people linux, gets them to turn their heads and say... i won't use that
[14:32] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, i do like the way KDE Plasma looks and works :D
[14:32] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, i just installed kubuntu-full, not sure if that is proper for ubuntu, i only use ubuntu on my laptops and only recently started using it... my main distro is gentoo
[14:33] <lws> i liked kde 3 :(
[14:33] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, my main like about kde is the panels and widgets... and i love konqueror, gnome's apps just don't cut it for me
[14:34] <BoomerBile> ya gotta do to many extra things to make what you want in gnome vs what you have to do in kde
[14:34] <organiks> is ubuntu 64bit backwards compatible with 32bit?
[14:34] <BoomerBile> yes
[14:34] <BoomerBile> well
[14:34] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, is the plasma desktop the "newest" codename for kde
[14:34] <BoomerBile> what do you mean exactly
[14:35] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, plasma-desktop is kde's new kdesktop, i believe kde 4 is a total re-write of kde... 3.5 was the last kdesktop, now it's plasma, kwin is still there
[14:35] <organiks> can i use 32bit programs in 64
[14:35] <BoomerBile> organiks, yes
[14:35] <organiks> k
[14:36] <organiks> tx
[14:36] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, i used to have a super custom kde config where i turned off kdesktop, and kwin and used e16 as my desktop and window manager... haven't fiddled with the new kde because i like plasma
[14:37] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, so when lookin in SPM i should focus on KDE Plasma
[14:37] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, let me open synaptic and see what i can find
[14:37] <slickb> Need help! :( lol I have my ubuntu server (with ubuntu-desktop) installed on it running on vga into my HD tv. I need to figure out either the command line tool to adjust the display resolution (I can't see half of the left portion of the screen. :( any ideas? I have only a keyboard of course too.. :\
[14:38] <summatusmentis> hi all. I'm on a work provided Natty machine, and I'd really like to be able to use gm-notify. Is there a way to install it under my homedir or something without needng sudo?
[14:39] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, you probably want kde-plasma-desktop if your looking for minimal
[14:39] <BoomerBile> summatusmentis, yes
[14:39] <BoomerBile> summatusmentis, would require some work though
[14:39] <summatusmentis> BoomerBile: define "work"?
[14:39] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, eh, i've got a good hardy system.
[14:39] <summatusmentis> I should specify, I'd really prefer not to build it myself
[14:39] <summatusmentis> but I will if I absolutely have to
[14:40] <BoomerBile> summatusmentis, you'd probably have to build it yourself or modify the ubuntu package
[14:40] <summatusmentis> guh
[14:40] <su-ge> Is allience in the Ubuntu's software source? Alliance is a free CAD tools and libraries for VLSI design. I'm using arch. Thank you for help first.
[14:40] <krambiorix> hi guys, i have a file from my email server with all my today's mails in it. How can i decode and view my mails from that file?
[14:40] <luc_> never mind im going back to windows
[14:40] <f3bruary> In firefox and chrome when I watch a flash video like on youtube the video keeps freezing ( audio continues ) and when I scroll with my mouse the video resumes and several second later it freezes again untill I use scroll. It happens in both full screen and normal view
[14:40] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, i always install kde and gnome side by side, on my laptops, on my desktops i have all the wm installed
[14:40] <stimpie> I would like to start 4 terminals from a shell script and place them in the corners of my screen (same as using  ctrl-alt-numpad [1-3-7-9] ) is that possible?
[14:40] <VampsDaBeast> Prays for a good luck install with the KDE options i got
[14:40] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, if you want the full porky, kubuntu-full
[14:40] <summatusmentis> BoomerBile: I downloaded the .tgz from the launchpad, and ran setup.py --root </path> but now I can't get it to run without root
[14:41] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, ahh yes.. i thnk that was what i used on my test machine.. kubuntu-full or kde-full.. i dont remember now...lol
[14:41] <BoomerBile> summatusmentis, is that something that has to be run with root privs?
[14:41] <su-ge> Hera I come again:Is allience in the Ubuntu's software source? Alliance is a free CAD tools and libraries for VLSI design. I'm using arch. Thank you for help first.
[14:42] <organiks> what the cmd to get root open
[14:42] <Pici> su-ge: You can search yourself on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:42] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, yeah kde-full would be ok too
[14:42] <su-ge> thank you.
[14:42] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, i'm using VLC to play my radio streams, which is where i'm tryin to "split" the sound.. any experience with that..
[14:43] <ServerTech> how much time does it take to install gnome on ubuntu server? im getting impatient now :(
[14:43] <summatusmentis> BoomerBile: as far as I can tell, it won't install without root privs
[14:43] <oCean> organiks: setting a root password is both pointless and not supported by this channel. If you do it, please do not ask for help with it here
[14:43] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, let me get off this laptop and to my desktop..... too hard to do things with a touch pad
[14:43] <BoomerBile> summatusmentis, brb
[14:43] <krambiorix>  i have a file from my email server with all my today's mails in it. How can i decode and view my mails from that file?
[14:43] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, lol hahah. ya not a prob.
[14:43] <organiks> no no im i want to take off the password for now
[14:44] <organiks> to give root
[14:44] <organiks> i know the pass
[14:44] <organiks> just want to take off
[14:44] <Pici> !enter
[14:44] <organiks> k
[14:44] <Neo31> hello, please I need to make sure that "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" does update the software but doesn't upgrade the ubuntu version. and I am not sure the equivalent command with aptitude
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> krambiorix: i'm from .be, you speak dutch or french?
[14:44] <oCean> !sudo | organiks
[14:45] <Technicus> Hello, when I log in I get the message: "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEautho", how do I correct this?
[14:45] <organiks> yeah i want to take it off so i dont have to use sudo
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> !nl| krambiorix
[14:45] <naftilos76> hi everyone, has anybody succesfully transfered a big multilevel tree of folders and its' contents (emails) from kmail to evolution through an automated process/script?
[14:45] <bastidrazor> Neo31: those commands will only update your packages not ubuntu version
[14:46] <Neo31> bastidrazor: what is the equivalent command with aptitude please ?
[14:46] <russellw> oCean, setting a root password is pointless? You mean you can arrange it so that when you need to use sudo, you don't get prompted for a password?
[14:46] <bastidrazor> Neo31: aptitude upgrade
[14:46] <oCean> russellw: indeed
[14:46] <Neo31> thank you bastidrazor
[14:46] <Pici> russellw: setting a root password is different than using sudo to access root.
[14:47] <yeats> organiks: this channel won't support you trying to circumvent the default sudo system - FYI - you might try another distro ( I would suggest Debian, from which Ubuntu is derived )
[14:47] <organiks> im just trying to unlock it so i can install this printer
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> russellw: it is adviced to not use root acces, if you are not experienced
[14:48] <VampsDaBeast> organiks, you should only have to enter for root access once. once you enter it you will be in superuser until the install is finished.
[14:49] <russellw> Pici, well basically it would be handy to not have to enter a password when I need to do things like apt-get - security isn't an issue for what I'm doing - so is it the case that you can arrange to not have to do so? If so, how?
[14:49] <genii-around> You can make a sudoers entry for your user which allows it to run programs without password
[14:50] <russellw> How?
[14:50] <oCean> organiks: you can use sudo -i to invoke a temporary root shell, but be VERY careful when running in a root shell
[14:50] <organiks> k thnx
[14:50] <rigved> russellw: you can create a script in which you can store the password and call sudo. then you do not need to enter password.
[14:50] <VampsDaBeast> oCean, is there a way in SPM to hide installed packages
[14:51] <bastidrazor> russellw: "sudo visudo"    then add "razor ALL=(ALL)NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/apt-get"   ..substitute razor for your username
[14:51] <oCean> russellw: see the documentation on the /etc/sudoers configuration. You can use the NOPASSWD specification for certain groups not to require a passwd
[14:51] <russellw> Okay, thanks!
[14:51] <oCean> VampsDaBeast: what is SPM?
[14:51] <VampsDaBeast> oCean, Synaptic Package Manager,
[14:52] <bastidrazor> russellw: read the documentation too for a better understanding of what its doing.
[14:52] <oCean> VampsDaBeast: ah, sorry I have no Idea, have not used that in a long time
[14:52] <VampsDaBeast> oCean, ahh must be a terminal jockey eh?
[14:52] <organiks> done and done
[14:53] <oberststen> Hi, I'm having a bit trouble with the "find" command, is there a way I can tell it to search in / by -name but exclude one directory?
[14:53] <Parsind> linux.com is down!
[14:53] <oCean> VampsDaBeast: the basic apt-cache (to search) and apt-get (to install) commands are not that hard to learn
[14:53] <oCean> Parsind: that has nothing to do with this channel
[14:53] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: try playing with the custom filters (Settings -> Filters)
[14:53] <jrib> oberststen: it has exclude options, check man page
[14:54] <VampsDaBeast> oCean, with a little experience i've done with Ubuntu Server, i'm becoming more and more comfortable with terminal
[14:54] <Parsind> they arent running ubuntu server ?
[14:54] <jrib> oberststen: I don't see anything for "exclude", but you can negate options so that should work
[14:54] <Parsind> er worent
[14:54]  * MonkeyDust loves Terminal
[14:54] <oCean> jrib: oberststen -prune is the option for find to ignore
[14:55] <oberststen> thanks oCean
[14:55] <jrib> oCean: good call
[14:55] <VampsDaBeast> VLC works in both Gnome and KDE correct?
[14:55] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: correct
[14:56] <monkey_kju1> how  can I  find users have User ID greater than 100 ? in terminal
[14:56] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, if install in gnome will i need to install in KDE?
[14:56] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: nope
[14:56] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, yaaay for small miracles
[14:56]  * aleuck loves dvtm
[14:56] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: all programs I have tried *work* in both environments... whether they are *attactive* in both is another question ;-)
[14:57] <ahmad_> ServerTech: You here?
[14:57] <Parsind> *attractive*
[14:57] <yeats> Parsind: of course
[14:57] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, beauty is skin deep, true "love" comes from use :D
[14:57] <yeats> ;-)
[14:58] <Parsind> true love comes from lack of alternative?
[14:59] <VampsDaBeast> Parsind, hmmm not really
[14:59] <oberststen> oCean: I still have a problem though, as I read on the man page, I can't use -prune if I'm using -depth, this is the command I have: "$ sudo find / -name ".DS_Store" -depth -exec rm {} \;" but I want to exclude the /Volumes/MobileBackups folder, any idea?
[14:59] <VampsDaBeast> Parsind, i believe that is called being content
[14:59] <Parsind> :)
[15:00] <jrib> monkey_kju1: you could use awk or cut
[15:00] <blackcat73> Hi, his there a way to test a custom LiveCD without the need of all those steps of putting it all back to the .iso file?
[15:00] <jrib> monkey_kju1: awk is probably a little nicer in this situation
[15:00] <rajmahendra> I have installed Ubuntu 11.4  using CD. Can i downgrade to Ubuntu 10.4 ? Anyone help me
[15:00] <monkey_kju1> jrib: thanks
[15:01] <jrib> monkey_kju1: here's how I would do it:    getent passwd | awk -F: '{ if ($3 > 100) {print $0} }'
[15:01] <Dazzled> anyone knows the command to list available graphics drivers
[15:01] <llutz_> oberststen: find ... |grep -v MobileBackups |xargs rm               ugly but ..
[15:01] <Dazzled> I know I've seen it, but I can't remember
[15:01] <yeats> oberststen: if that's the only directory you want to exclude, maybe temporarily move it out of the parent directory where you're running 'find'?
[15:02] <oberststen> yeats: I'm using "/" so that's gonna be hard
[15:02] <jrib> Dazzled: jockey-text
[15:02] <rajmahendra> Can anyone answer my doubt ?
[15:02] <yeats> rajmahendra: no way to downgrade - sorry
[15:02] <jrib> !helpme | rajmahendra
[15:02] <yeats> yeats: you can back up your files and reinstall 10.04
[15:02] <oCean> oberststen: not sure if you need the -depth in your case. Also, I'd suggest to TEST with -exec ls -al {} \;
[15:04] <Loonatic> Anyone has recommandation for usb wireless device like keyboard/mouse to use with Ubuntu
[15:05] <Parsind> can some one point me out another linux news site instead of linux.com?
[15:05] <jrib> !ot | Parsind
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> Parsind: lxer.com
[15:06] <VampsDaBeast> how well does KDE work with a dual head/multi-monitor setup?
[15:06] <kloplop321> Can anyone tell me why all my spell checkers keep acting like I'm in the UK or something? I went to system-Admin->language settings and it is set to the US, yet consistantly Empathy and Thunderbird seem to act like my spelling is wrong and should be the UK english spelling
[15:06] <Hot2Trot> for some reason when I do 'find . -iname '*thing*'' it produces a whole list of searches BUT when I do 'find . -iname '*thing*' |cat > txtile' txtfile only contains the first found item... can anyone tell me why?
[15:06] <Gnea> VampsDaBeast: about as well as gnome does
[15:07] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: last time I used KDE (probably 9.10) it was a bit of a bear - dunno now
[15:07] <llutz_> Hot2Trot: find . -iname '*thing*'  > txtile
[15:07] <qin> Hot2Trot: Skip pipe and cat
[15:07] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: cat is the wrong command to use
[15:07] <ikonia> Hot2Trot: > is the right pipe to use also not |
[15:07] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, right now i have dula head on gnome.. only issue i'm running in to is using my keyboard on the secnd monitor.
[15:07] <Hot2Trot> ikonia: I see
[15:07] <Hot2Trot> thanks to all of you
[15:08] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: hmm - I don't remember except that I had to fuss with it for days before it did what I wanted ;-)
[15:09] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: I should mention that I was also using the proprietary ATI driver at the time - no fun
[15:09] <kloplop321> can anyone please tell me how to change it so my programs' spellchecker are not using UK english?
[15:10] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, ahh. i'm using a nvidia gt 220 with the driver from the nvidia site. now i'm not sure that has anything to do with the fact i am unable to use my keyboard on the second monitor
[15:11] <Hot2Trot> hmm... now the command works on the command line, but still doesn't work in my python script
[15:12] <rullie> hey folks, what's the executable command of "Hardware Drivers" panel?
[15:13] <qin> Hot2Trot: Not sure if using bash in python is that easy.
[15:13] <qin> rullie: jockey-gtk
[15:13] <Hot2Trot> qin: it's maddening
[15:13] <rullie> qin: thanks
[15:14] <filePeter> Is ubuntu automatically doing some cpu frequency scaling or stuff like that? Or is there yet another frontend to accomplish that?
[15:14] <qin> Hot2Trot: Try external bash script.
[15:14] <filePeter> filePeter: i7 laptop
[15:14] <qin> Hot2Trot: Also #python
[15:14] <Hot2Trot> qin: thanks
[15:14] <ServerTech> lws. you there?
[15:15] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, is there a open source package tha tworks like display fusion (binaryfortress.com)
[15:15] <bastidrazor> filePeter: normally it does it automatically. cpufrequtils can help you deteremine it.. cpufreq-info
[15:15] <slickb> how can i change my default session from ubuntu to ubuntu classic in 11.04 from command line? would that be in the bashrc?
[15:16] <filePeter> bastidrazor: Thank you!
[15:16] <bastidrazor> filePeter: you're welcome
[15:16] <VampsDaBeast> slickb, log out of ubuntu and when u select ur username theres a WM/DE selector at the bottom
[15:17] <ServerTech> Help: Okay so my internet on my Ubuntu Server 11.04 is not working. I just solved that problem after some trouble without gnome. I installed gnome and its not working anymore. Ideas?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> ServerTech: disable network manager and set a fix IP
[15:17] <bullgard4> How does the range of application of the DEB program packages libreoffice-core and libreoffice-core:386 differ? The associated descriptions are identical.
[15:18] <IdleOne> bullgard4: maybe email the package maintainer?
[15:21] <gsunder> gsunder
[15:22] <dori922> hey :p got another q on SSH.. If i use keygen to create a keypair on my Server, can i then copy the keypair to a usb drive, give that USB to a client who i have nothing to do with(cant ssh to them etc), can they use that keypair on the USB to ssh to SERVER
[15:22] <llutz_> dori922: you can
[15:23] <h00k> dori922: the private key can connect to the server if the public key is on that server
[15:23] <h00k> dori922: as long as the private key is on one side, the public key is on the server, yeah.
[15:23] <dw-> i want to use gnupg keys in LibreWriter for signing PDFs, which uses NSS.  Any tips?
[15:24] <h00k> dori922: If they need to ssh in, I would consider creating a separate key pair for them.
[15:24] <h00k> dori922: this way, you can revoke access if necessary. Private keys shouldn't be shared
[15:24] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: not sure what display fusion is - don't know - sorry
[15:25] <meta-coder> Did anyone notice that http://kernel.org/ is down?
[15:26] <shadey_> must be doing a kernel update on the server (oh i couldn't resist)
[15:26] <dw-> #ubuntu is being trolled http://ircanswers.com/
[15:26] <qin> meta-coder: It was owned while ago, so it natural (me too).
[15:26] <h00k> dw-: please do not spam.
[15:27] <h00k> meta-coder: yes, it is still down.
[15:27] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, Display Fusion allows you to setup different aspects of multi-monitor displays. i guess what i'm lookin for is how the hell am i able to drag a window across displays.
[15:27] <IdleOne> dw-: no it isn't that is a sanctioned bot afaik see IRCAnswersBot
[15:27] <dw-> idleone: ty
[15:27] <meta-coder> qin: "owned"?
[15:27] <rajmahendra> how to install SSE2 on ubuntu ?
[15:27] <h00k> dw-, IdleOne: Ah, I see what you were referring to.
[15:28] <qin> h00k: Still, i do not think that site is helpfull, it start dominating search results with rubbish, they bot should be removed.
[15:28] <w30> meta-coder, it's being rebuilt, whatever that means...
[15:28] <IdleOne> dw-: good looking out though :)
[15:29] <meta-coder> rajmahendra: SSE2 is an instruction set. What do you mean by "install SSE2 on Ubuntu"?
[15:29] <dori922> h00k: im making a backup system with chrooted sftp for clients that ill never see so im trying to get RSA up(for security) without being able to access the clients pc's.. im also trying to keep it working with winscp to keep a wide net of clients
[15:29] <h00k> qin: You can take that to the IRC Council, they granted external access to that bot (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots)
[15:29] <h00k> qin: if you'd like
[15:29] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: ah - so you have dual monitors set up as one big desktop and you're not able to drag across?
[15:30] <h00k> dori922: Make a public/private keypair for each of the clients, I'd recommend
[15:30] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, yes.. at the edge of my first monitor the window stops and will not allowit to move to the second
[15:30] <uRock> Is there a way to download and place the driver used by Addition Drivers for wifi on a thumb drive?
[15:30] <rajmahendra> meta-coder, i am trying to run Secondlife on Ubuntu 11.4 and its not runnign i read that "Viewer 2.5 and up now require SSE2 which the Athalon XP does not support."
[15:30] <negger> test
[15:30] <negger> In Linux, is there a way to upgrade from LSB 3.2 to LSB 4.0 without fucking up the system?
[15:30] <qin> !test > negger
[15:31] <oCean> negger: control your language here, please
[15:31] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: hmm - I haven't experienced that before - hopefully someone in the channel can help (or you might try #kubuntu)
[15:31] <negger> I'm trying to install google earth
[15:31] <Lemon`BRB> why i cannot connect with ftp to root on my VPS with same password i am using for SSH with success?
[15:31] <Kaffer> Who ca help me with dvd ISO protection?
[15:31] <Lemon`BRB> its ubuntu server
[15:31] <Lemon`BRB> 10.04
[15:32] <h00k> !googleearth | negger
[15:32] <negger> DVD was cracked in 1999 by MIT,p surely software should exist that decrypts it
[15:32] <negger> that's cool
[15:32] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, just installed KDE.. so ya..i'm gonna switch to it and see if it works differently. :D
[15:32] <negger> I tried typing ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin and it requires Redhat's Linux System Base 4.0, when I only have 3.2 on my system
[15:32] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: oh - so you're having that problem in GNOME?
[15:32] <Kaffer> Hallo anyone?
[15:32] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, yes
[15:32] <ryann> greetings.. will adding the existing lucid repository urls to sources.list in an ARM installation properly discern ARM packages via apt-get?
[15:32] <rymate1234> I has a problem with my microphone
[15:33] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: hmm - I've never had that problem
[15:33]  * Gnea eyes the troll distinctly
[15:33] <Pumpkin-> Lemon`BRB: most likely whatever ftp server you are using denies root by default. ftp'ing as root seems an even worse idea than using ftp in the first place though :)
[15:33] <h00k> negger: this is the Ubuntu support channel. Please see the factoid for installing Google Earth with Ubuntu.
[15:33] <Kaffer> Can anyone help me to protect a data DVD
[15:33] <Lemon`BRB> hm.. dont know protocols so idk why is it bad xD
[15:33] <Lemon`BRB> so..
[15:33] <Lemon`BRB> how do i modify a file in /usr/local/bin?
[15:34] <Gnea> Kaffer: don't put it in the microwave
[15:34] <rymate1234> Ubuntu 11.04 seems to not work with my built in microphone
[15:34] <Lemon`BRB> rymate1234: laptop model?
[15:34] <rymate1234> Yep :
[15:34] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, when i open monitor preferences i only see 1 monitor. and when i click "detect monitors" it doesnt show the second montor either.
[15:34] <negger> Is there a way to get .deb files of GoogleEarth from a place OTHER than earth.google.com?
[15:34] <bastidrazor> Lemon`BRB: edit it with a text editor.
[15:34] <rymate1234> Its acer aspire 551
[15:34] <negger> like with the installer
[15:35] <rymate1234> *5551
[15:35] <Lemon`BRB> its ubuntu server, on VPS
[15:35] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, could that soemthing within the nvidia settings?
[15:35] <Lemon`BRB> it will be a little hard
[15:35] <Lemon`BRB> oO
[15:35] <bastidrazor> !googleearth | negger
[15:35] <Kaffer> Gnea> I won't...Does Ubuntu have any DVD protaction/encryption software?
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> negger: check tombuntu.com
[15:35] <jpds> Kaffer: Normla partition encryption with LUKS/cryptsetup?
[15:36] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, sorry about that
[15:36] <angheloko> hi guys... i have a new acer aspire 4750G but i couldn't install Ubuntu using CD... I was able to get to the grub menu (try, install, check cd)... Selecting any of the options just leads to a blank screen and an unresponsive machine... any ideas?
[15:36] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: it might be - my dual monitor situation currently uses ATI/Radeon
[15:36] <ServerTech> MonkeyDust: My internet still not working. I switched to static IP addresses.
[15:36] <Kaffer> jpds> I need to set protection to a DATA DVD..How can I do this?
[15:36] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, did you get it? i no more than came downstairs and my router apparently forgot my passowrd... finally figured it out and got re-connected
[15:36] <rymate1234> is anyone gona help with my microphone problem?
[15:37] <Kaffer> It's allready an ISO form
[15:37] <VampsDaBeast> yeats : what is vBlank, do you know
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> ServerTech: did you restart the network?
[15:37] <dori922> h00k:  so make a pub/priv keypair for each user/client on the server (in the .ssh folder on their chrooted /$home) and then send the keypairs to the clients?
[15:37] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, welcome back.. i got KDE installed. am working out a small snafu with my multi-monitor setup
[15:37] <ServerTech> MonkeyDust: yep
[15:37] <Dazzled> anyone knows if Ubuntu comes with VDPAU by default?
[15:37] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: fraid not :-/
[15:38] <Dazzled> it's a package
[15:38] <Kaffer> Guess no one knows...
[15:38] <Simone> please msg me if you know how to use ubuntu backtrack on a flashcard(not usb)
[15:38] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, what's asking you for vblank?
[15:38]  * Iamred made his own Linux distro
[15:38] <bastidrazor> !backtrack > Simone
[15:38] <rymate1234> Ubuntu 11.04 seems to not work with my built in microphone
[15:39] <Kaffer> So I'm not so dumb after all.
[15:39] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, nothing yet.. but oen of the 2 monitors has it enable..reason for asking is i'm unable to use my keyboard on the second montor
[15:39] <BoomerBile> rymate1234, check your mixer levels
[15:39] <rymate1234> BoomerBile: I'll check them again
[15:39]  * angheloko want's 11.04 but cannot install it on a Acer Aspire 4750G, i5 with Nvidia GEFORCE GT540M
[15:39] <BoomerBile> rymate1234, make sure it's selected as the input source
[15:39] <rymate1234> ok
[15:40] <Simone> thanks
[15:40] <BoomerBile> Kaffer, what are you using for buring that dvd
[15:40] <filePeter> angheloko: Why not? apt-get distupgrade ?
[15:40] <Lemon`BRB> angheloko: why 'cant' you install it?
[15:40] <IdleOne> dist-upgrade
[15:40] <angheloko> filePeter, its going to be a fresh install.. i just got the machine
[15:40] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, i believe vBlank is for screen blanking from in-activity
[15:40] <bastidrazor> filePeter: dist-upgrade does not change distro versions
[15:40] <Kaffer> I can use any software...I have WindowsXP as well
[15:41] <Lemon`BRB> angheloko: then whats teh problem?!
[15:41] <Lemon`BRB> i am using aspire 5738ZG and everything is perfect except for touchpad
[15:41] <Lemon`BRB> when i click button to turn it off temporary
[15:41] <angheloko> it's stuck at the grub menu (with the try, install, check CD option)... after selecting any options, i just get a blank screen.. laptop becomes unresponsive too (cannot ctrl+alt+del)
[15:41] <Lemon`BRB> i cannot turn in on after that
[15:41] <Lemon`BRB> everything else is fine
[15:41] <ServerTech> MonkeyDust: Anyways thanks. I got it to work.
[15:41] <Lemon`BRB> lol
[15:41] <Lemon`BRB> hm...
[15:41] <Lemon`BRB> it might be teh CD
[15:42] <Lemon`BRB> if you didnt treat it properly :)
[15:42] <angheloko> i tried nomodeset and acpi=off options also
[15:42] <Myrtti> !enter > Lemon`BRB
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> thumbs up, ServerTech (y)
[15:42] <yeats> angheloko: you might try the alternate installer CD
[15:42] <yeats> !alternate | angheloko
[15:42] <Lemon`BRB> Myrtti: write it yourself?
[15:42] <Kaffer> BoomerBile> I haven't tried any software for protection. But I know that this ISO doesn't have any protection.
[15:43] <angheloko> yeats, thanks... i'll try the mini after trying install from usb
[15:43] <h00k> Lemon`BRB: we have factoids for that :)
[15:43] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile or yeats : do i need to have Seperate X screens or Twin View enable??
[15:43] <Lemon`BRB> server side pm blocking is for spam
[15:43] <Lemon`BRB> why not write it yourself?
[15:44] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: sorry - I think your issue is beyond my experience/expertise ;-)
[15:44] <Lemon`BRB> or atleast do it in channel :)
[15:44] <rymate1234> YAY MY MIC WORKS THANKS :D
[15:44] <IdleOne> Lemon`BRB: Please stop using the enter key as punction. More content less ENTER. thank you.
[15:44] <Myrtti> Lemon`BRB: try not to keep the enter key down that much, your text is much more legible if it's not scattered all over the place
[15:44] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, no prob, thanks for trying.
[15:44] <Lemon`BRB> that was in pm?
[15:44] <VampsDaBeast> yeats, if you arent able to.. maybe Boomer can
[15:44] <h00k> Lemon`BRB: Also, note that you may miss important information from ubottu if you ignore /queries from people. we aren't responsible for this.
[15:44] <yeats> VampsDaBeast: hope so ;-)
[15:45] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, i used to prefer separate x screens, now i prefer twinview
[15:45] <Lemon`BRB> hm... important information from a bot that has factoids only...?
[15:45] <BoomerBile> Kaffer, so you want to put something like securom on your dvd?
[15:45] <BoomerBile> to prevent copying
[15:45] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, what's the difference?
[15:45] <Kaffer> YES
[15:45] <BoomerBile> Kaffer, heh, why?
[15:45] <h00k> Lemon`BRB: yes, or warnings about behavior, etc.
[15:45] <adataa> im running ubuntu from usb live, and i type fdisk -l in the terminal and nothing shows up
[15:45] <adataa> shouldn't it list the hdd?
[15:46] <BoomerBile> Kaffer, i'm not saying you shouldn't but it's probably going to cost you money... and it doesn't work anyway
[15:46] <angheloko> adataa, try sudo fdisk -l
[15:46] <Lemon`BRB> everything i need to know is on channel if case is normal
[15:46] <adataa> works
[15:46] <adataa> how do i change to admin?
[15:46] <adataa> foog
[15:46] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, well, in separate screens, i don't think you can move one window to another screen
[15:46] <adataa> root i mean
[15:46] <blognewb> hey guys can somebody help me find how to do enable ssh on the plesk control panel? :(
[15:46] <h00k> !sudo | adataa
[15:46] <adataa> thanks angel
[15:47] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, i used to run that and i think that was how it worked, you can still copy and paste between screens, but i don't believe you can move windows across screens
[15:47] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, if i was you i'd go with dynamic twin view
[15:47] <Lemon`BRB> h00k: !enter nick is viable if you put it on channel too
[15:47] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, then set up some metamodes so that applications know how to use each of your monitors independantly
[15:47] <IdleOne> Lemon`BRB: drop it please.
[15:47] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, that would allow moving across screens and use of keyboard on both screens
[15:48] <Kaffer> BoomerBile> So Linux doesn't have an option to put copy protection to a Data DVD?
[15:48] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, it is treated as one screen
[15:48] <BoomerBile> Kaffer, i didn't say that, i don't know much about it... i'm still looking for you
[15:48] <u001> #linux
[15:48] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, ahh there we go.. i thnk that is what i'm looking for.
[15:49] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, if you need an xorg.conf to go by i can paste mine
[15:49] <asura> i find my freemeteoweather in scteenlets always disapear form my desktop ,who can help me to make it show?
[15:49] <Kaffer> BoomerBile> I did some search but could only find for Windows. But thats useless coz you could access it via Linux
[15:49] <u001> estou tendo problema em compartilhar pastas no ubuntu 11.04
[15:49] <h00k> !es | u001
[15:49] <IdleOne> !br | u001
[15:49] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, i've got the nvidia x setting tool.. got it set and written to xorg.. now gonna log and see if it did it correctly.
[15:49] <qin> asura: Screenlets are medieval, use conky.
[15:49] <h00k> I totally got that one wrong.
[15:50] <BoomerBile> Kaffer, i've been around computers and software since i was 12, there is no copy protection in the world that works
[15:50] <BoomerBile> never has, never will
[15:50] <BoomerBile> Kaffer, when you give or sell that dvd to someone, it has both the question and the answer on it
[15:50] <ahmad> im getting tierd of this unstable os.... is Fedora more stable
[15:50] <ahmad> ?
[15:50] <BoomerBile> Kaffer, after a matter of time anyone can figure out how to bypass it
[15:51] <qin> ahmad: /j #fedora
[15:51] <erik_1984> I don't think Fedora is more stable
[15:51] <asura> qin: but i find it first disappear from unity mode, but it disapear form everymode ,i think some worng with my compiz
[15:51] <oCean> ahmad: this is ubuntu support only. We don't discuss other distributions
[15:51] <Parsind> were can i download google linux distro?
[15:51] <h00k> Parsind: check the documentation for it, we don't support that here.
[15:51] <ahmad> i know but im asking which is the most stable os.. ubuntu or fedora?
[15:51] <SubjectOne> use google to find it Parsind
[15:51] <oCean> ahmad: not in this channel please
[15:51] <IdleOne> ahmad: ask #fedora
[15:51] <h00k> ahmad: this isn't the place for that discussion.
[15:51] <u001> I'm having problem in ubuntu 4.11 to share folder between ubuntu and ubuntu
[15:52] <ahmad> k
[15:52] <Kaffer> BoomerBile> Yes but only for experienced users. Protection will stop standard users from copying it http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_protect_cd.shtml
[15:52] <qin> asura: That is why many people ditched screenlets, they are hard to control; perhaps too hoggy.
[15:52] <u001> can someone help me
[15:52] <BoomerBile> yeah it will stop standard users, who will just ask a pro to do it for them
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> !helmpme| u001
[15:52] <BoomerBile> Kaffer, ^^
[15:52] <Kaffer> BoomerBile> I need protection from a DVD
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> !helpme| u001
[15:53] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, you rock dude. TwinView is exactly what i wanted. :D
[15:53] <Parsind> u001 just upload the files onto bitorrent
[15:53] <BoomerBile> http://club.myce.com/f80/how-create-copy-protected-disc-114915/ <-- Kaffer
[15:53] <Parsind> :)
[15:54] <matteo_> rima
[15:54] <asura> qin: but i really like the freemeteo weather ~
[15:54] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, glad it worked... make sure to set metamodes or your full screen apps and windowed apps will behave funny, like centering on both screens instead of one
[15:54] <u001> #ubuntu
[15:55] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, hmm Hero's of Newerth on 2 screens....
[15:55] <qin> asura: Well you could try to run: skreenlet manager from terminal to see if it is going to tell you something in case of crash.
[15:56] <Deathvalley122> can someone help me with fail2ban
[15:56] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, you wanna come over and fix my sound issue now.. lol.
[15:56] <Deathvalley122> I am getting these errors http://pastebin.com/K38rbKSK
[15:56] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, i'll even make you dinner
[15:56] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, haha... i can try
[15:56] <BoomerBile> you live in MN?
[15:56] <BoomerBile> lol
[15:56] <ubun> hello. i upgraded a bit with my graphics card. Can i get help with the drivers please???
[15:56] <VampsDaBeast> boom Minne?
[15:56] <Guest57235> you
[15:56] <mrzzzzzz> hey is there som issue with the latest install media i have burned it on 3 separate cd's and tested them on 3 diffrent computers but screen is just getting black after the blinking dots under setup ??
[15:56] <Guest57235> hi
[15:56] <Guest57235> hello
[15:56] <Guest57235> haw are you
[15:56] <Guest57235> ?
[15:56] <Guest57235> oi
[15:56] <Guest57235> o que é rima
[15:56] <FloodBot1> Guest57235: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, yeah minnesot
[15:57] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, your just north of me
[15:57] <anthony_Dev> guys, how to enable these functions in ubuntu? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kecnm8rmS6M (short vid)
[15:57] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, i'm in Illinois
[15:57] <asura> qin: that's may be a idea ,
[15:57] <uRock> !packages
[15:58] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, ah, i was thinking Iowa, i just live north of the border
[15:58] <qin> anthony_Dev: compiz, install ccsm
[15:58] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, can you give me more info on your sound?
[15:58] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, Minnesota is bout 8ish hours from me
[15:59] <ubun> can anyone help me with video driver?
[15:59] <BoomerBile> ubun, what card
[15:59] <anthony_Dev> qin, I already installed this software. I got two machines: pc and netbook. netbook already has these funcs, pc still not. I think its bcz of the whole ubuntu installation. at first steps ubuntu didnt found video driver automaticly, so system said that it will turn off all fxs.
[15:59] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, ok, i have 2 sound cards, one is on board, one is a SOund Blaster Card. the Sound Blaster is my primary card i want to use for games, system sounds, the on board i want to use for music thru a media play such as VLC
[16:00] <ubun> BoomerBile: i went from ati x300 to a nvidia gforce 8400.
[16:00] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, that's my setup pretty much, onboard nvidia hd sound and a creative labs sound blaster audigy 2
[16:00] <qin> anthony_Dev: With some risk: compiz --replace (x may crash)
[16:00] <anthony_Dev> qin now I checked every setting in netbook's ccsm and pc. and they are eq.
[16:00] <BoomerBile> ubun you need nvidia-drivers
[16:01] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, awesome. shouldnt be to far out of your reach then.
[16:01] <ubun> BoomerBile: do i have to uninstall ati stuff? thats pretty much my concern
[16:01] <BoomerBile> nope, you in kde?
[16:01] <qin> anthony_Dev: What version are you using? 9.10?
[16:01] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, not currently but can be :D
[16:01] <BoomerBile> ubun, you don't have to but i would
[16:01] <kraut> hi
[16:01] <kraut> anyone an idea, why this happens if i mount a crypted disk? http://pastebin.com/f3wMjKwb
[16:02] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, let me switch to KDE. brb
[16:02] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, yeah lets go there
[16:02] <anthony_Dev> qin 11.04
[16:03] <anthony_Dev> qin ubuntu classic session compiz.
[16:03] <BoomerBile> what?! kernel.org was hacked?
[16:03] <BUS73D> Lo
[16:04] <qin> BoomerBile: A week ago, or something, offtopic
[16:04] <angheloko> BoomerBile, yeah.. also linux.com
[16:04] <Parsind> linux.com is down  for balance
[16:04] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:04] <mrzzzzzz> hey is there som issue with the latest install media ?? I have burned it on 3 separate cd's and tested them on 3 diffrent computers, but the monitor is just getting black after the blinking dots under setup ??
[16:04] <ikonia> BoomerBile: no-one said, that
[16:04] <ikonia> angheloko: please stop it, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion
[16:04] <BoomerBile> angheloko, yeah i was just looking something up to help Vamps, and i went to linux.com and they said that
[16:04] <oCean> BoomerBile: that has nothing to do with this channel
[16:04] <BoomerBile> helping vamps with ubuntu?
[16:05] <BoomerBile> i believe your wrong
[16:05] <Pici> BoomerBile: Asking whether $website is up.
[16:05] <BoomerBile> i did not ask that
[16:05] <BoomerBile> try again
[16:06] <ikonia> BoomerBile: stating sites are down, what ever you want, the channel is ubuntu support discussion only. Please keep to that
[16:06] <Pici> BoomerBile: Keep in mind that #ubuntu-offtopic exists and is active if you want to chat about other non-support things.
[16:06] <knobydobs> hello - every time i start a graphics intensive game i.e. Openarena i get an error as such: X Error of failed request: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error) Major opcode of failed request: 65 (X PolyLine) Serial number of failed request: 1350 Current serial number in output stream: 1351
[16:06] <ikonia> w d
[16:06] <ikonia> oops
[16:06] <uRock> Is there a way to download and place the driver used by Addition Drivers for wifi on a thumb drive?
[16:07] <Polah> mman ls
[16:07] <qin> uRock: With presistent space, yes
[16:08] <VampsDaBeast> BoomerBile, ok im back in KDE now
[16:08] <winut> kde rox!
[16:08] <uRock> qin, I would like to download the package to one machine and transport it to another.
[16:08] <BoomerBile> VampsDaBeast, check your pm
[16:08] <uRock> via USB
[16:09] <qin> uRock: Not sure.
[16:10] <genii-around> !offline | uRock
[16:11] <Satu> boa tarde
[16:11] <IdleOne> !br | Satu
[16:11] <Satu> I've done all the configuration and the NFS does not work ... I wonder if there is any model so I can follow ...
[16:12] <uRock> thanks genii-around
[16:12] <genii-around> uRock: You're welcome
[16:13] <eligijus_> hey guys have som1 of you fully working linux system with nvidia optimus?
[16:13] <Satu> can someone help me
[16:13] <angheloko> Satu, what's the problem with your NFS setup?
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> Satu: didi you do this? => sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start
[16:14] <Satu> yes I've done what I could on the net did not work ... NFS
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> Satu: no errors?
[16:15] <ranjan> Hi all
[16:15] <Satu> yes installed sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server e nfs-common
[16:16] <angheloko> eligijus_, im also trying to install on my acer aspire with nvidia optimus.. just finished dl'ing the alternate installer to see if that works
[16:16] <ranjan> Is it possible to boot a iso in the harddisk using grub2 and install that into the same harddisk?
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> Satu: but did you start it?
[16:16] <Satu> did the server configuration in / etc / exports
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> ranjan: try unetbootin
[16:17] <ranjan> MonkeyDust, the problem is that i dont have a usb stick now
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> Satu: ok, but did you start it in init.d?
[16:17] <ranjan> MonkeyDust, and i want to reinstall my machine
[16:17] <ranjan> MonkeyDust, and i have the image in my harddisk
[16:17] <noharm> hello
[16:18] <noharm> Is there any way to stop the graphic effects in the new Ubuntu?
[16:18] <paladinlaw> hi, i just updated my 11.04 with the program updater(or what it is called) and when i restarted my computer freezes at the logo screen. what can i do
[16:18] <Satu> the client sudo mount-t nfs 10.1.1.3: / home/u002 but it does not connect
[16:18] <Adolf666> no haiu sugeti pula
[16:18] <noharm> ce ai ma?
[16:18] <Adolf666> mars la cacat
[16:18] <noharm> te-a apucat injuratu'-n romaneste?
[16:18] <Adolf666> da
[16:19] <IdleOne> !english
[16:19] <Adolf666> pute aici de voi
[16:19] <Adolf666> tigani
[16:19] <noharm> fututi anafura matii
[16:19] <ranjan> paladinlaw, is your an HP laptop?
[16:19] <Adolf666> sa-mi trag cacatu-n gura matii
[16:19] <Satu> not init.d
[16:19] <paladinlaw> nope
[16:19] <noharm> Adolf666 is saying bad words in Romanian.
[16:19] <Adolf666> no engles
[16:19] <Adolf666> whatttttt
[16:19] <paladinlaw> ranjan: own build comp
[16:19] <noharm> bai cacatule
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> Satu: it's mount -t, not mount-t
[16:19] <Adolf666> you pig
[16:19] <noharm> stii macar romana?
[16:19] <ranjan> paladinlaw, oh thats great
[16:19] <noharm> da' germana?
[16:19] <noharm> stii?
[16:19] <Adolf666> stiu cand sunt in mata
[16:19] <Adolf666> stiu tot
[16:19] <noharm> baga-mi-as ceva in mata
[16:20] <Adolf666> sa ma fut in pizdocu matii de fatalau
[16:20] <paladinlaw> ranjan: anyway i can restore it?:P
[16:20] <ranjan> paladinlaw, did a kernel update happen in the update step?
[16:20] <Adolf666> imputit
[16:20] <noharm> n-ai ascultat o data Rammstein si te dai mare neo-nazist
[16:20] <rww> alrighty, that's enough kids
[16:20] <paladinlaw> ranjan: no idea.. 210 updates
[16:20] <gxblary> Hi, I just opened my ubuntu and all my configs disappeared as well as the files and folders in default directory (Documents, Images, Desktop, etc...). Is there something I can try before photorec or ddrescue?
[16:20] <noharm> thank you
[16:20] <noharm> :)
[16:20] <Satu> if it is to follow such a scheme would be that I could do this sharing
[16:20] <ranjan> paladinlaw, oh, its the fresh update right? then the kernel might have been updated
[16:21] <noharm> How do I stop the special graphic effects in Ubuntu folks?
[16:21] <ranjan> paladinlaw, either you restore, or choose the previos kernel version from the boot menu and try to boot
[16:21] <Adolf666> engles?
[16:21] <Adolf666> me no engles
[16:21] <paladinlaw> ranjan: there is no boot menu... directly to the logo
[16:22] <ranjan> paladinlaw, soon after the bios and post just hit escape key, you will get the boot menu
[16:22] <Adolf666> noharm sa-mi bag pula-n tot ficatu matii si-n toata fasolea din curu lu tacto
[16:22] <Satu> Site staff are very restricted and ubuntu do not support or show how to make ... Ubuntu Linux has a graphical function that fassa that ...
[16:22] <paladinlaw> ranjan: ok i got to the grub menu.. should i do a restore?
[16:23] <ranjan> paladinlaw, do you see multiple kernel versions in the grub menu?
[16:23] <noharm> Translation of Adolf666: I would put my pen** in all of your mother's liver and all the cabbage from your father's arse.
[16:23] <aleuck> hello, I need suggestions to change my gtk settings for non-gnome wm's
[16:23] <noharm> This is what he is telling me.
[16:23] <noharm> :(
[16:23] <Pici> noharm: Thats enough. He's gone.
[16:23] <noharm> hopefully
[16:23] <noharm> :)
[16:24] <paladinlaw> ranjan: i see ubuntu with linux 2.6.38-11-generic and one more with (restoration or something.. diff lang)
[16:25] <paladinlaw> ranjan: one says "previous linux versions" and two more with memory test
[16:25] <ranjan> paladinlaw, so which is the previos linux version?
[16:25] <noharm> join #linguistics
[16:25] <angheloko> hi guys, so - still no success with installing ubuntu using the alternate CD - selecting install now or install using expert mode only brings me to a blank screen, laptop freezes also... any ideas?
[16:25] <ranjan> paladinlaw, have you done a multiboot?
[16:26] <paladinlaw> no i got only ubuntu
[16:26] <aeplus> ang, the alternate cd is screwed up
[16:26] <Satu> Site staff are very restricted and ubuntu do not support or show how to make ... Ubuntu Linux has a graphical function that fassa that ...
[16:26] <paladinlaw> ranjan: the prev is 2.6.38-8
[16:27] <aeplus> check out what the real filename on the CD, then update the grub commands used in the grub menu
[16:27] <paladinlaw> ranjan: i only got ubuntu
[16:27] <angheloko> aeplus, real filename of what file?
[16:27] <aeplus> the initrd and the kernel
[16:28] <Satu> you can help me
[16:28] <ranjan> paladinlaw, good then boot the previos version :)
[16:28] <ranjan> paladinlaw, and check whether the machine passes the boot screen
[16:28] <paladinlaw> ranjan:ok lets see :D
[16:28] <aeplus> ang, good luck... i need to head out to work
[16:28] <ranjan> paladinlaw, nice
[16:29] <paladinlaw> ranjan: nope fail
[16:29] <ranjan> :(
[16:30] <angheloko> oh man.. aeplus just left... anybody knows where i can get the "real" filename of the initrd and kernel from the alternate cd installer?
[16:30] <ranjan> paladinlaw, then some serious troubleshooting is needed
[16:30] <paladinlaw> ranjan: should i run the prev with (restore mode)
[16:31] <ranjan> paladinlaw, check it, i am not sure about that as i have not tried it yet
[16:31] <ranjan> paladinlaw, good luck
[16:31] <paladinlaw> ranjan: ok:D lets see
[16:31] <memand_> soreau: you allive?
[16:31] <aleuck> how do I change my gtk theme on awesome?
[16:32] <paladinlaw> ranjan: i got a resto menu.. should i choose dpkg?
[16:32] <ranjan> paladinlaw, which are the other options?
[16:32] <ranjan> paladinlaw, by the way do you have any video card?
[16:33] <paladinlaw> ranjan: resume,clean,failsafex,fsck,grub,netroot, root                 Yes geforce 250GTS
[16:34] <ranjan> paladinlaw, did you install the proprietary graphics driver?
[16:35] <paladinlaw> ranjan: in the additional drivers. but i couldnt choose a resolution greater than 640x480
[16:35] <paladinlaw> ranjan: so i tryied updating the system :P
[16:35] <ranjan> paladinlaw, so that might be the problem
[16:35] <paladinlaw> ranjan: but i could restart my comp many times... it was after this update i made
[16:36] <ranjan> paladinlaw, so while booting you are greeted with a blank screen right?
[16:36] <paladinlaw> ranjan: no, it freezes on the ubuntu logo
[16:36] <ranjan> anyway do one thing
[16:36] <ranjan> paladinlaw, do you know to alter the grub menu entry?
[16:37] <paladinlaw> ranjan: ye...
[16:37] <paladinlaw> ranjan: its set on nomodeset
[16:37] <ranjan> paladinlaw, oh is it :)
[16:37] <ranjan> paladinlaw, i was about to say that solution :)
[16:38] <paladinlaw> ranjan: ye it actually fixed my problem i had at the begining
[16:38] <ranjan> paladinlaw, hey which is the version you are using?
[16:38] <berseck> saven php
[16:39] <paladinlaw> ranjan: the newest. 11.04
[16:39] <paladinlaw> ranjan: from the website
[16:39] <ranjan> paladinlaw, ok
[16:39] <ranjan> paladinlaw, check this http://www.sebdangerfield.me.uk/2010/10/upgrading-to-ubuntu-10-10-not-booting-freezing-on-loading-screen-nvidia-driver-issue/
[16:39] <berseck> php help
[16:40] <Pici> !ask | berseck
[16:40] <Gnea> !php
[16:40] <gxblary> Hi, I just opened my ubuntu and all my configs disappeared as well as the files and folders in default directory (Documents, Images, Desktop, etc...). Is there something I can try before photorec or ddrescue?
[16:40] <berseck> ablan español
[16:41] <Pici> !es | berseck
[16:41] <berseck> grasias
[16:41] <btarunnr> hellow there :D
[16:42] <btarunnr> i didnt like unity \:D/
[16:42] <Freelance> I tried to download entire web site with wget recursive from a 2nd domain url , but i get only the index.htm. Probably the hyperlinks are linked in php. How can i do?
[16:42] <etiainen> I found out today that there is a monospace font in the Ubuntu font family, and that it was supposed to be on Natty by default, but I can't seem to find it anywhere .Anyone else have this problem?
[16:42]  * _you have just encounted a fatal error...press alt+f4 to fix immediatly
[16:43] <etiainen> or, how can I get it now? Using the beta PPA?
[16:43] <btarunnr> @freelance #wget -i urlist.lst -bs
[16:43] <btarunnr> -bc
[16:43] <emman> hi, need some help with zoneminder setup,source entry is red , no video is showing, xawtv works.
[16:44] <Freelance> btarunnr: what -bc option does?
[16:44] <Pici> etiainen: I was under the impression that it was only available for private beta testing at this point.
[16:45] <btarunnr> frelance - i used it to download my download list :D
[16:45] <rullie_> hi, I lost my /etc/init.d/gdm
[16:45] <etiainen> Pici; ah, ok I was not aware of that. All the information I saw said it would be a part of the Natty release
[16:45] <rullie_> when I boot, I'm greeted with the ubuntu loading screen and no login comes up
[16:45] <etiainen> Pici: thanks
[16:46] <Freelance> btarunnr: so you download you download list and then you put it in mouth to wget?
[16:46] <emman> zoneminder help anybody
[16:47] <Freelance> btarunnr: -bc wrote the log onto a file!!
[16:48] <btarunnr> freelance looks like that
[16:49] <rullie_> hi, could someone help me restore gdm. I don't have /etc/init.d/gdm for some reason, and when I boot, I'm stuck at the ubuntu logo loading screen.
[16:49] <Freelance> btarunnr: I do not need a log file..
[16:50] <paladinlaw> ranjan: didnt get fixed... i managed to get in with safe mode and change the thing but when i restarted the same thing happend
[16:55] <Guest68512> Please debanned me in #ubuntu-ru:
[16:55] <Guest68512> ip-83-149-3-16.nwgsm.ru
[16:55] <paladinlaw> ranjan: yey managed to fix it
[16:56] <ranjan> paladinlaw, how?? :)
[16:56] <baatezuu> \ubuntu+1
[16:56] <spudneck> hey there
[16:57] <paladinlaw> ranjan: i went into safe mode and saw that i had chaneg the xorg.conf file to some weird things.. made a new and started it :D
[16:57] <ranjan> paladinlaw, Great!! Rock On!! ;)
[16:58] <paladinlaw> ranjan: but still got the resolution problem...
[16:58] <ranjan> oh i think for that you should disable the noveau driver
[16:58] <mutley89> I have written a script for backups on my laptop and put it /etc/cron.weekly, what does cron do if my computer is switched off  when it is supposed to run, does it run on next boot or just ignore it?
[16:58] <paladinlaw> ranjan: it says unknow monitor
[16:59] <paladinlaw> ranjan: how do i do that?
[16:59] <ranjan> paladinlaw, just a min
[17:00] <ranjan> paladinlaw, do you have a nvidia configuration tool installed? just check the Syste> Administration menu
[17:00] <ranjan> or System>Preferences menu
[17:01] <paladinlaw> ranjan: ye
[17:01] <ranjan> paladinlaw, doesnt that detect the monitor?
[17:01] <ranjan> paladinlaw, open a terminal and try $sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:02] <paladinlaw> ranjan: already done that
[17:03] <CoJaBo> How do I install Firefox 3.6 in ubuntu 11.4 64bit?
[17:03] <paladinlaw> ranjan: im getting model: dfp-0 on gpu-0
[17:04] <Guest68512> Please, debanned me in #ubuntu-ru:
[17:04] <Guest68512> ip-83-149-3-16.nwgsm.ru
[17:04] <spudneck> #tor
[17:06] <paladinlaw> ranjan: i read that modeline can fix it.. i will try
[17:07] <Sentencia> hello
[17:07] <spudneck> hi
[17:08] <Sentencia> i have a ar file that seems to be corrupted
[17:08] <Sentencia> but most of files are ok
[17:08] <Sentencia> how can i extract the correct files and exclude the bad
[17:08] <arfer12> CoJaBo, you would have to manually install the file.
[17:08] <sms_> What's the default terminal font & size in ubuntu?
[17:08] <CoJaBo> RedWar: From where?
[17:09] <RedWar> I am sorry, I thought you already had the source file.
[17:09] <RedWar> So CoJaBo, you need the source file, where to get Firefox?
[17:10] <RedWar> the old version
[17:10] <op> Please, debanned me in #ubuntu-ru:
[17:10] <op> ip-83-149-3-16.nwgsm.ru
[17:10] <Pici> op: please join #ubuntu-irc and ask there.
[17:14] <dlyneswork> Is there a way to tell apt-get install to forcefully reinstall a package?  i.e. it currently detects that it's already installed, and I want to reinstall it
[17:15] <Pici> dlyneswork: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[17:15] <dlyneswork> Pici, thanks...figured there was a switch, but I wasn't finding it
[17:17] <xircx> hi all
[17:17] <RedWar> CoJaBo not sure if you figured this out yet... you can go to mozilla.com and there is a link where you can get all older browsers
[17:18] <RedWar> Download then you can install
[17:18] <RedWar> Did that help CoJaBo?
[17:18] <alazare6190> lol
[17:18] <alazare6190> hmm
[17:19] <alazare619> hmm
[17:19] <alazare619> lol
[17:19] <alazare619> ooo im not muted anymore...
[17:20] <paxan> Привет всем))))
[17:21] <thiago_> hi
[17:21] <thiago_> hey... ubuntu minimal installtion have a pppoe-connection option enabled?
[17:21] <CoJaBo> normally, ctrl alt f1 drops to a terminal. why does this not work?
[17:23] <paxan> Кто тут по руски пишет?
[17:23] <Gnea> !ru | paxan
[17:26] <Simon14> Hi, I have the ubuntu server installed but I can't find the "lamp-server" packager in the repository
[17:26] <Pici> Simon14: Its not a package, its a task in tasksel.
[17:26] <Guus_> Anyone in here that would like to help us with packaging #openteacher? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/682852
[17:27] <Simon14> Pici: Oh ok, thanks
[17:27] <glebihan> Simon14, you can install it with tasksel of with "sudo apt-get install lamp-server^" (with the "^" at the end)
[17:27] <Pici> Guus_: This isn't a development channel, try #ubuntu-packaging or #ubuntu-motu if you need help.
[17:28] <edoceo> Hey, I'm making a modified LiveCD - installed MySQL but when it starts on the CD update-notifier throws a warning dialogue
[17:28] <sms_> Someone please check default terminal font in ubuntu
[17:28] <Simon14> glebihan: ah ok, I was missing the ^
[17:28] <edoceo> Do I need to remove some hook file, or just stop updatete-notifiier from running?
[17:28] <Simon14> Thanks
[17:28] <glebihan> Simon14, that's the way to select tasks in apt-get
[17:28] <glebihan> Simon14, you're welcome
[17:29] <Simon14> Thanks, I'm not familiar with tasks, I'll look into them
[17:30] <kcollins> So I want to backup an certain directory and all the files and sub-directories inside of it.  But I don't want the tarball to have the entire path, I want it to begin at the current directory.  Meaning the paths will be stored as: foo/file...  instead of /home/me/test1/foo/file....  How do I do that?
[17:30] <edoceo> kcollins: -C .
[17:32] <julianoliver> is there a way, without using wmctrl etc, to start an application from the shell in a specific workspace?
[17:33] <julianoliver> gnome-session-save isn't working out well..
[17:33] <jwpeddle> does anyone know of a painless way to join an l2tp over ipsec vpn? I've exhausted google on the issue.
[17:34] <mihael_> i need help
[17:34] <mihael_> i need help
[17:34] <mihael_> i need help
[17:34] <mihael_> i need help
[17:34] <FloodBot1> mihael_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:34] <cage_raphel> hello.. i am able to play youtube videos on ubuntu
[17:34] <mang0> um
[17:34] <mang0> yeah?
[17:34] <jwpeddle> that's good
[17:34] <mang0> cage_raphel: Why wouldn't you be able to?
[17:34] <Calinou> yes, cage_raphel
[17:34] <Calinou> as long as you have flash installed, I think
[17:35] <mihael_> HELP!!!! My xbuntu performance is very low HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:35] <cage_raphel> @ Calinou .. how do i check if flash is installed?
[17:35] <mihael_> HELP ME
[17:35] <mihael_> PLEASE
[17:35] <glebihan> julianoliver, what do you mean exactly by "workspace" ?
[17:35] <Myrtti> mihael_: you must understand we can't help you at all because you tell nothing that can help up help you
[17:35] <julianoliver> glebihan: desktop. workspace is X speak.
[17:36] <spudneck> Does anyone know about where to find a decent useful channel for wireshark?
[17:36] <julianoliver> glebihan: i don't want to start the application and then move it, with wmctrl etc, rather start it in that desktop directly.
[17:36] <glebihan> julianoliver, then something like "DISPLAY=:0.0; appname" should work (adjusting the value of DISPLAY to the correct one)
 HELP!!!! My xbuntu performance is very low HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:36] <Calinou> install the closed source drivers, and please note ATI isn't friend with linux
[17:37] <julianoliver> glebihan: glebihan you're talking about screens though, not desktops..?
[17:37] <Calinou> sorry. open source lovers can't use ubuntu fully
[17:37] <spudneck> Does anyone know about where to find a decent useful channel for wireshark?
[17:37] <Myrtti> Calinou: who are you talking to? he left ages ago
[17:37] <glebihan> julianoliver, oh yes sorry, didn't understand what you were looking for, no idea then
[17:37] <Calinou> I know
[17:38] <cage_raphel> @ spudneck .. are u reff to channel utilization?
[17:38] <rww> Irony: ATI's open-source drivers are better than Nvidia's open-source drivers.
[17:39] <spudneck> @cage_raphel not exactly
[17:39] <mneptok> rww: s/better/less\ horrific/  ;)
[17:39] <spudneck> @cage_raphel need a channel to discuss about packet analyzers and stuff
[17:39] <paxan_>  Привет всем:) Кто от куда?
[17:39] <paxan_> Hi all:) Who is from where?
[17:39] <mneptok> !ru | paxan_
[17:40] <cage_raphel> @ spudneck .. pls join wireshark
[17:42] <luc_> how do u get the computer to stay at the choice screen and not log in to windows in 5 seconds
[17:42] <cage_raphel> @ luc_  i dont get u ?
[17:42] <op> Привет!
[17:42] <ichbinder> hello. How can I delete/reset svn cached login information in Ubuntu 11.04? It seems like it has still old cached info even though the password was changed by the server side... it hangs right after the svn command and there is no error log or so...
[17:42] <edoceo> luc_: grub boot loader options
[17:43] <edoceo> ichbinder: ~/.subversion
[17:43] <glebihan> luc_, edit /etc/default/grub and comment the GRUB_TIMEOUT line, then run "sudo update-grub"
[17:43] <ichbinder> edoceo: thanks. I'll look there! :D
[17:43] <ichbinder> edoceo: so obivous... -.-
[17:43] <paxan> во не ужели по русскому пишут))))
[17:43] <luc_> i want my computer to stay at the windows 7 or ubuntu choice screen and not just log into windows automatically after 5 seconds
[17:44] <edoceo> luc_ glebihan told you how
[17:44] <DesiRE> кто где живет?
[17:44] <Myrtti> !ru | DesiRE
[17:44] <filePeter> DesiRE: 对
[17:45] <attj> Hi, I downloaded Cold war demo just for fun and test. When I start the game I get messages: open /dev/[sound/]dsp: No such file or directory
[17:45] <attj> warning: Can't open default OpenAL device, using no-sound mode.
[17:45] <attj> I'm using 11.04 64-bit
[17:46] <DesiRE> кто тут из России?
[17:46] <Myrtti> DesiRE: seriously, English
[17:46] <yvemath> Heya, i am unable to setup networking b/w Ubuntu Lucid Host and Windows XP Guest OS in VirtualBox, any link .. or advice ?
[17:47] <yvemath> I've tried bridging and using NAT adapter and failed in both :(
[17:47] <Calinou> lol
[17:47] <yvemath> (smiles) Calinou, hehe
[17:48] <luc_> is there a way to copy and paste from xchat
[17:48] <ichbinder> edoceo: you know if svn stores error messages somewhere? A logfile or so? Couldn't find anything in ~/.subversion or /var/log
[17:48] <Serafeim> I think my laptop suffers from overheating. Can anyone tell me what is the ideal temperature?
[17:48] <op> Я здесь потому что на ru не пускают
[17:48] <glebihan> luc_, select the text you want to copy and press Ctrl+C
[17:48] <edoceo> ichbinder: not the client, writes to stderr when failure, that's it
[17:48] <cage_raphel> @ luc_  ofcourse!
[17:49] <cycl0nite>  how many times can a vga connection be split?
[17:49] <cycl0nite> ie, one dual splitter from the card.  two dual splitters to each end.  leading to 4 terminations.  only three monitors display
[17:49] <cage_raphel> @ luc_  copy and paste it the way u do it in windows... control+c and then control +v
[17:49] <ichbinder> edoceo: ah, kay... the server does? I talk to the admin, maybe he can look up what's going wrong...
[17:49] <edoceo> Yes, would be server logs (apache, if DAV+SVN) or other location - depending on SVN setup
[17:51] <madi> identify/abdulhamid_
[17:51] <supercar_heaven> guys what are make files ??
[17:52] <glebihan> supercar_heaven, compilation instructions used by the "make" command
[17:53] <supercar_heaven> glebihan: ok :)
[17:53] <Skummel> supercar_heaven it's a file that is used to give instruction to a compiler. wikipedia got a decent article if you want to know more.
[17:53] <ichbinder> supercar_heaven: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_%28software%29
[17:54] <supercar_heaven> thanks skummel and ichbinder :)
[17:57] <lauratika> hello every one
[17:58] <compdoc> hey
[17:58] <cage_raphel> hello lauratika
[17:59] <lauratika> i cant launch nautilus folders this just happens now, beeing working all day as usual... now when i try to launch via terminal i receive this message laut@mekka:~$ nautilus
[17:59] <lauratika> (nautilus:27225): Unique-DBus-WARNING **: Error while sending message: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[17:59] <lauratika> (nautilus:27225): Unique-DBus-WARNING **: Error while sending message: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[17:59] <lauratika> rizos@chykuly:~$
[17:59] <FloodBot1> lauratika: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <TheMatrix3000> how do I set ubuntu system to use wpa autoconfig
[18:00] <Rinsmaster> How can I free my mouse when using remote desktop to log into a vnc server (just a terminal, no mouse). Is there a button to release my mouse to my OS again?
[18:01] <TheMatrix3000> wpad* i mean
[18:03] <rullie> Hi, I have a system that doesn't boot.  Could someone list a number of things I should start checking?  i'm chrooting with a cd
[18:04] <amogh_c> join #ubuntuone
[18:06] <ichbinder> rullie: at what point does it not boot? you can always check in /var/log if there are error messages in any of the logs.
[18:07] <mangdood> Hi, how can insert "math" symbols into programs other than LibreOffice?
[18:08] <rullie> ichbinder: it failed to load NVIDIA kernel module
[18:08] <rullie> ichbinder: I have nvidia-glx-185 installed... not sure how to go about configuring it though
[18:09] <ichbinder> rullie: ok, give me a second.
[18:09] <rullie> ichbinder: thanks
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000> is it possible to set the system to use autoproxy
[18:10] <TheMatrix3000> like if i had a wpad/wpad.day
[18:10] <TheMatrix3000> dat*
[18:10] <serard> hello
[18:10] <TheMatrix3000> http://wpad/wpad.dat*
[18:11] <duncan-nz> serard, hello. What's your question?
[18:11] <serard> I want to install a paravirtualizer on my local machine. Which one of xen and kvm should I use ? I need one main desktop env for development + some VMs for testing. Need near-raw performances
[18:11] <[THC]AcidRain> http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/17806/ has this exploit been patched?
[18:12] <serard> testing VMs will be server machines (ubuntu, debian, gentoo)
[18:13] <ichbinder> rullie: still looking... :)
[18:13] <mangdood> serard: I doubt most people can give you an answer here. You could try the forums
[18:13] <rullie> ichbinder: modprobe nvidia results in FATAL error... if that means anything
[18:13] <rullie> ichbinder: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.32-28-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory  being the exact message
[18:13] <serard> thank you mangdood
[18:14] <ichbinder> rullie: hm... can you do "$ uname -a" and paste that?
[18:14] <mangdood> rullie: You should use www.pastebin.com or other pastebin next time
[18:14] <rullie> ichbinder: http://pastie.org/2522269
[18:15] <rullie> note that i'm in chroot
[18:16] <ichbinder> rullie: well, but it uses the same kernel that is used normally, right?
[18:16] <o_portista17> hello, i have a problem with my ubuntu, this keeps hanging, and i have to shutdown manually...the error is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686729/
[18:16] <mangdood> rullie: Oh, you are trying to configure nVidia?
[18:16] <mangdood> rullie: did you just install it?
[18:16] <rullie> well, /initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-11-generic
[18:16] <rullie> mangdood: I'm trying to boot my system :)
[18:17] <rullie> ichbinder: mangdood: http://pastie.org/2522276
[18:17] <rullie> wait.. that may be a wrong paste
[18:17] <duncan-nz> How do I kick my wireless back to life after a failed attampt at improving connectivity with ndis wrapper?
[18:17] <duncan-nz> Now I have no wireless at all.
[18:18] <duncan-nz> I've uninstalled ndis wrapper.
[18:18] <Home> any 1 know c programming???
[18:18] <ichbinder> rullie: i just try to figure out if it even trys to load the correct modules for the correct kernel. So I compare 2.6...
[18:18] <rullie> ichbinder: mangdood this may be more relevant: http://pastie.org/2522287
[18:18] <qin> Home: /j #c
[18:18] <ichbinder> rullie: and then, I just look for an apt-get way to uninstall all your nvidia stuff and reinstall it... :) But never done it with apt-get, myself... :)
[18:18] <IdleOne> [THC]AcidRain: take a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[18:19] <Home> @ qin what does that mean
[18:19] <mangdood> rullie: Did you install nVidia drivers yet? and did you install from the nVidia site?
[18:19] <qin> Home: /join #c (channel)
[18:19] <rullie> mangdood: so, which one is the master meta package that I should install to pull in everything it needs?
[18:19] <mangdood> rullie: you might try the open source drivers instead, just to get it working
[18:19] <rullie> mangdood: it worked with nvidia-185 before, then I did something and screwed it up
[18:19] <Home> it says it is invite only
[18:20] <ben10> people
[18:20] <afat> yeah
[18:20] <mangdood> rullie: the driver you are trying to load, I don't think is in the repositories; it's a proprietary driver... I think
[18:20] <ben10> i have one question
[18:20] <rullie> ichbinder: I think I did that. and that's what brought me to this state :p
[18:20] <ben10> ....
[18:20] <qin> Home: Sorry.
[18:20] <ben10> why is windows better then....ubuntu?
[18:20] <ichbinder> rullie: "system's kernel log", maybe that says more... but mangdood is probably right, try the open source version...
[18:20] <afat> so ben10 I mean this is a long shot but I think linux stinks.
[18:20] <ben10> windows is much much much more better
[18:20] <[THC]AcidRain> IdleOne, that exploit is not being listed as patched...
[18:20] <[THC]AcidRain> actually its not listed on the ubuntu page at all
[18:20] <afat> kkk
[18:20] <ben10> all the people of this room should join #windows
[18:20] <rullie> ichbinder: mangdood http://pastie.org/2522303
[18:21] <afat> yeah. it doesn't compare.
[18:21] <ben10> and leave this toom
[18:21] <wildgoose> ben10: Stop.
[18:21] <ichbinder> rullie: mangdood says it: the nvidia drivers are proprietary and not allowed. Possible that you screwed it up trying to install those instead of the default ubuntu open source ones... :)
[18:21] <ben10> stop?
[18:21] <ben10> stop what? wildgoose
[18:21] <afat> linux isn't a serious operation system.
[18:21] <afat> wildgoose
[18:21] <ben10> its a fact
[18:21] <ben10> yeah
[18:21] <ben10> linux us all broken
[18:21] <wildgoose> ben10, afat: Take it to offtopic
[18:21] <ben10> not stable
[18:21] <afat> i dreamt with you last night wildgoose.
[18:21] <FloodBot1> ben10: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <mangdood> rullie: ichbinder brb; leaving class : D
[18:21] <ben10> shut up floodBot
[18:21] <ben10> what do you know?
[18:21] <rullie> is nvidia-glx-185 the opensource one?
[18:21] <[THC]AcidRain> i just wanted to out of no where say that i love linux. it is very stable. and it is the best thing to ever happen to me
[18:22] <afat> ben10 really I mean you can't use it in business.
[18:22] <ben10> do you know that windows rocks?
[18:22] <[THC]AcidRain> if i had to deal with windows another day i would of merc myself
[18:22] <afat> yeah
[18:22] <ben10> do you know that...ubuntu sucks?
[18:22] <ichbinder> mangdood: :D
[18:22] <ben10> even kde is better
[18:22] <afat> I mean u can even invest in windows stocks.
[18:22] <wildgoose> idiots
[18:22] <[THC]AcidRain> nah you can pretty much use linux for anything
[18:22] <Home> can any 1 help me with a c programming question??
[18:22] <ben10> even if lunix is free
[18:22] <ben10> it still sucks
[18:22] <afat> does linux have shares wildgoose ?
[18:22] <afat> kkk
[18:22] <wildgoose> I bet you're sitting next to each other giggling like schoolgirls
[18:22] <ben10> as they say things that are free....sucks
[18:22] <[THC]AcidRain> linux = heart and soul. windows = profit only
[18:23] <clakes> hm... it's not my first choice when it comes to media production
[18:23] <ichbinder> oh come on, he's trolling you. Can somebody pls kick him? :)
[18:23] <afat> not the least wildgoose,
[18:23] <IdleOne> [THC]AcidRain: may not be fixed yet.
[18:23] <ben10> i mean does the people who created the filty of lunix get paid?
[18:23] <ben10> they dont
[18:23] <ben10> you know why
[18:23] <IdleOne> !ot
[18:23] <[THC]AcidRain> ben10, if you look at the windows exploit list. i promise its at least 100x longer than linux
[18:23] <duncan-nz> ben10 give up, you have no idea what you're talking about.
[18:23] <ben10> the operating system cannot do much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:23] <wildgoose> ichbinder: I like playing until the !ops come by.
[18:23] <afat> i mean if I had this graphic studio and I want to use ubunto on all the machines my business would go out of business the next day heh benn?
[18:24] <afat> ben10 exactly.
[18:24] <ben10> that correct afat
[18:24] <ben10> but
[18:24] <[THC]AcidRain> actually linux has epic rape when it comes to that.
[18:24] <ben10> i need to intall vmware and those shit
[18:24] <ben10> shits
[18:24] <afat> I would add that it should be rolled back inside the programmers asses.
[18:24] <FloodBot1> ben10: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <qin> ben10: Remeber to not skip your medicines.
[18:24] <ben10> and bos
[18:24] <duncan-nz> Would some admin  please kick those two?
[18:24] <ben10> to install windows in it
[18:24] <afat> ow shit.
[18:24] <afat> kkk
[18:24] <[THC]AcidRain> how annoying :/
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> the war of the os'es ;)
[18:26] <BarkingFish> How on earth did eir get banned? :)
[18:26] <BarkingFish> First time I've seen a network bot get the boot
[18:26] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[18:26] <duncan-nz> Good question
[18:26] <Dmole> anyone know a good truecrypt tutorial?                 (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume is a bit out of date otherwise and lacking)
[18:26] <[THC]AcidRain> if we get enough people i here to spam, then FloodBot will kick itself :)
[18:27] <duncan-nz> Anyone can tell me how to breath life back into my wireless after I gave up on ndis wrapper?
[18:27] <[THC]AcidRain> duncan-nz, what is your issue?
[18:27] <lauratika> hi again... my ubuntu one sync service it's giving me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/687821/ and this create conflict with  folders in nautilus... cant launch any folder. any ideas what this is about. was working just fine a few hours ago.
[18:27] <ichbinder> Dmole: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TrueCrypt maybe
[18:27] <duncan-nz> Connectivity problems which I thought ndis wrapper might solve. It didn't. Uninstalled it and now no wireless at all.
[18:27] <[THC]AcidRain> duncan-nz, if all else fails. i would just get a wireless bridge. thats what i used. if i messed with ndis wrapper id prolly still be internetless
[18:28] <BarkingFish> duncan-nz, if you want help with ndiswrapper, I'm your guy :)
[18:28] <ichbinder> lauratika: give the channel time... you disappeared to fast before! :)
[18:28] <[THC]AcidRain> duncan-nz, what version of linux?
[18:28] <BarkingFish> I've used it so much I'm practically integrated with it
[18:28] <bennis> i'm trying to print onto an HP Officejet 7410 and i can print test pages but documents are stuck on 'processing'. I managed to print one page somehow, i think it was a fluke though. any ideas on why it sticks?
[18:28] <duncan-nz> 11.04 with an RTL-8185 - so it should just work right? But now it's quite dead.
[18:28] <no_gravity> Hey People! What do I apt-get install to get Wine?
[18:28] <Myrtti> no_gravity: "wine"?
[18:28] <aeon-ltd> !wine
[18:29] <aeon-ltd> !package wine
[18:29] <BarkingFish> duncan-nz, can you give me the usb ID of the stick you're using please?
[18:29] <duncan-nz> BarkingFish, it's a PCI card.
[18:29] <[THC]AcidRain> ouch
[18:29] <[THC]AcidRain> your PCI card may not be supported. thats the scary thing
[18:29] <no_gravity> Myrtti: no easy "apt-get install wine" or something?
[18:30] <Jonathan458> hey guys
[18:30] <BarkingFish> afaik ndiswrapper only works on USB wireless - I've never seen it in use on a PCI card
[18:30] <[THC]AcidRain> no_gravity, that is the package
[18:30] <IdleOne> no_gravity: have you tried that command?
[18:30] <duncan-nz> from lshw I can read '*-network UNCLAIMED'
[18:30] <qin> no_gravity: sudo apt-get install wine<TAB> (to pick version)
[18:30] <lauratika> ichbinder: i disappear because the box freeze... so had to restart... sorry
[18:30] <mangdood> ichbinder: did rullie leave?
[18:31] <Mrono> anyone set up pptpd before?
[18:31] <Jonathan458> anyyall know alot about perm mounting a network drive?
[18:31] <cheater> hi guy
[18:31] <cheater> s
[18:31] <no_gravity> IdleOne: yes, it gives me "couldnt find package wine"
[18:31] <cheater> and girls too
[18:31] <Onyx47> hi, my home folder (not the whole partition, just my folder) got corrupted, fsck gets stuck on trying to fix some of the multiple inode references, anyone know of a good data recovery program that might help me?I only care about a single folder tbh
[18:31] <cheater> i have some packages that i need to have in the apt cache, for use with debsums (which check the integrity of installed packages)
[18:31] <memand> anybody who knows of an alternative to ALSA?
[18:31] <ichbinder> lauratika: no problem. ^^ was just writing you how to look up errors... :) besides that, I don't have a solution for your problem? Maybe #ubuntuone can help you more...
[18:31] <aeon-ltd> memand: OSS
[18:32] <cheater> the gz files are missing (they have been cleaned out), how can i make apt-get download them in the exact same version as is installed?
[18:32] <no_gravity> qin: i dont think i have that tab completion thingy
[18:32] <Onyx47> no_gravity, apt-get install wine1.2 for latest stable, for 1.3 you need to add wine's ppa
[18:32] <ichbinder> mangdood: don't think so, he's still in the channel... maybe he's afk.
[18:32] <Chariblaze> Is the general recommendation to use a partition for GRUB or to let it overwrite the MBR?
[18:32] <no_gravity> Onyx47: ok, ill try 1.2
[18:32] <mangdood> ichbinder: I cant seem to tab complete his name though
[18:32] <bennis> anybody know anything about printer issues?
[18:32] <ichbinder> mangdood: i'd give him the apt-get line, but don't know the exact package to remove the old nvidia drivers and install the open source ones
[18:32] <BarkingFish> duncan-nz, one of the requirements of ndiswrapper when you use a driver with a device is that you must supply the USB Ident for the device - mine for example is 0bda:8176 - if the device you're using isn't USB, you're not going to get ndiswrapper to work with it.
[18:33] <ichbinder> mangdood: hm, not anymore... i could a few secs ago...
[18:33] <duncan-nz> [THC]AcidRain, so any idea how I can justkcij my wireless back to life? I don't understand why things aren't just back to before I installed ndis wrapper.
[18:33] <Pici> itmannen: they are no longer here.
[18:33] <ichbinder> mangdood: rullie (~rullie@h216-235-10-210.host.egate.net) has quit (Quit: leaving)
[18:33] <lauratika> ichbinder: thanx maybe i try there... maybe someone here has an idea i'll stick around for a while
[18:33] <mangdood> ichbinder: if you see him again, you can tell him to apt-get remove nvidia*
[18:33] <JonathanD> w/hois benpro
[18:33] <JonathanD> erm
[18:34] <duncan-nz> BarkingFish, that's good to know. It should say that somewhere on the box though. How was I meant to know that?
[18:34] <bennis> c'mon peoples, all i have is a little printer issue :D
[18:34] <duncan-nz> BarkingFish, anyway, how do I get back to how things were before I installed ndis wrapper?
[18:34] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, are you probably blacklisted native driver before installing ndiswrapper, have you removed it from the blacklist?
[18:34] <ichbinder> mangdood: and then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[18:34] <BUS73D> Lo
[18:35] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, I did'nt manually do any blacklisting - but I wondered if it was something like that. How do I check?
[18:35] <BUS73D> somebody do knowwhat this commandline do?
[18:35] <mangdood> ichbinder: time to head home :> and yeah, that sounds good. Tell him not to remove Nouveau though; he'll need a backup driver if he needs to remove the nVidia drivers
[18:35] <Chariblaze> Is the general recommendation to let GRUB overwrite the MBR, or to make it its own partition?
[18:36] <BarkingFish> duncan-nz, I have no idea, sorry.  I can get people onto ndiswrapper, I have no idea how to get them off of it :( Sorry
[18:36] <ichbinder> mangdood: kay... we'll see whether he'll come back. :)
[18:36] <BarkingFish> Anyone else able to help duncan-nz with this please?
[18:36] <BUS73D> setcap'CAP_NET_RAW+eipCAP_NET_ADMIN+eip'/usr/bin/dumpcap
[18:36] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, sorry, forgot where the blacklist file is located, been ages since I used it, try googling for how to blacklist something, should tell you what file it's located in
[18:36] <BUS73D> this oneabove;)
[18:36] <duncan-nz> BarkingFish, tnx
[18:37] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, thanks I'll try that.
[18:37] <ichbinder> duncan-nz: BUS73D also seems to speak to you... :)
[18:37] <Mrono> When I set up ttptd and try to connect i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/687824/ in the debug log
[18:37] <BUS73D> what this pliz? setcap'CAP_NET_RAW+eipCAP_NET_ADMIN+eip'/usr/bin/dumpcap
[18:37] <Mrono> pptpd*
[18:37] <BUS73D> no ichbinder
[18:37] <BUS73D> i am on my reality;)
[18:37] <ichbinder> BUS73D: oh, sorry... :D
[18:38] <duncan-nz> ichbinder, danke.
[18:38] <ichbinder> duncan-nz: bitte. :)
[18:38] <giggles> i'm in my own reality
[18:38] <antiphysicist> why would ubuntu installer skip the step where you have an option to install alongside etc
[18:38] <duncan-nz> antiphysicist, because it didn't see any other OS?
[18:39] <ChesterX> hi, I am trying to connect myself to the QQ network, however none of the ubuntu im clients can't make a connection to the server (empathy, pidgin, eva). Aim I missing something? Is there any other known alternative to the official Win/mac QQ client? Thank you :-)
[18:39] <antiphysicist> duncan-nz why would it then display a blank screen where the choice of where to install should be
[18:39] <jwpeddle> does anyone know of a painless way to join an l2tp over ipsec vpn? I've exhausted google on the issue.
[18:40] <duncan-nz> antiphysicist, blank how? the whole screen? Live environment or alternative install?
[18:40] <FrozenFire> Currently I'm using ushare to stream media to my Xbox 360. While ushare *works*, it doesn't work very well. Are there any other lightweight UPnP servers that work better than ushare?
[18:40] <Mrono> FrozenFire: what's wrong with ushare
[18:41] <FrozenFire> Mrono, Refreshing the shared file list requires accessing the web interface, so doing it automatically requires wget hacking.
[18:41] <antiphysicist> duncan-nz, the table which would normally show your available partitions and stuff has nothing in it, the  box where you type where to install (something like /dev/) is stuck on one option and won't change, i'd thingk the hard drive was broken but it was previously working with windows
[18:41] <FrozenFire> It also seems mildly unstable.
[18:42] <Mrono> FrozenFire: just have it run a cron job ever ~5 min
[18:42] <Mrono> every*
[18:42] <FrozenFire> Well, what I do is I have my torrent client set to perform the query when a torrent completes. But, still, I'd prefer a better-designed server, if one is available.
[18:43] <Dog_Matix> FrozenFire: I don't think ushare is developed any more.
[18:43] <Mrono> FrozenFire: http://elinux.org/DLNA_Open_Source_Projects
[18:43] <antiphysicist> why would the ubuntu installer not detect a working hard drive
[18:44] <mneptok> antiphysicist: software RAID?
[18:45] <duncan-nz> antiphysicist, sorru no idea. Cancel the install for sure and have a look at your partitions in the live environment with gparted.
[18:46] <antiphysicist> duncan-nz i am on the live enviro now i ran a hard disc diagnostic which it said passed, what other checks should i perform
[18:46] <antiphysicist> mneptok, i have no idea what that means, but how would i check for it
[18:46] <Chariblaze> I want to set up a triple-boot Windows/two Linux distros machine, and I came across a slight snag: Is the general recommendation to make a partition for GRUB, or to let it overwrite the MBR?
[18:46] <duncan-nz> antiphysicist, sorry, no idea. I assume your trying a non-beta version.
[18:47] <ichbinder> Chariblaze: if you want to use GRUB as your bootloader, it will have to overwrite the MBR.
[18:47] <Onyx47> Chariblaze, I personaly never had problems with Grub overwriting MBR, only eventual problem is if you reinstall windows you'll have to recover grub from a live distro
[18:47] <ichbinder> Chariblaze: I guess you are not sure whether to make a special partition for GRUB or to let it be installed together with the rest in /
[18:48] <Xano> I'm running 11.4 on my htpc, but the network connection is buggy as hell. It takes several attempts to log onto it using SSH or VNC, if it works at all. My main computer, which has no wifi trouble at all, is situated right above the htpc and both connect to the same wireless router on the other side of the apartment.
[18:48] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, it was /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[18:48] <ichbinder> Onyx47: how could you use GRUB as bootloader without installing it in the MBR?
[18:48] <Xano> What are the common debugging steps for wifi trouble?
[18:48] <BUS73D> need a hand
[18:48] <mneptok> antiphysicist: how is the drive connected? is it a straight-up SATA connection? does the machine have a hardware RAID chipset that may not be supported by Linux?
[18:49] <duncan-nz> ich bindi just set another partition aside and select it under advanced settings at the end of the installation.
[18:49] <antiphysicist> mneptok: i think it is a direct SATA connection, but there is something funny going on with the drive because although it was previously working with windows windows xp was not allowing me access to partition it either
[18:49] <duncan-nz> ichbinder, just set another partition aside and select it under advanced settings at the end of the installation.
[18:50] <mneptok> antiphysicist: try another SATA port on the mobo.
[18:50] <Onyx47> ichbinder, tbh, not sure how to do it but you COULD, in theory, set it so it chainloads GRUB, like what GRUB does with Windows
[18:50] <BUS73D> need a hand
[18:51] <ichbinder> duncan-nz: yeah, install it to another partition. But MBR will select what is booted as bootloader... so it will always need to be installed to MBR, not?
[18:51] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, do you see some version of rtl driver listed in there?
[18:51] <BUS73D> how to run dumpcap with elevated privileges??
[18:51] <antiphysicist> mneptok: i have tried that already but now feel clever
[18:51] <ichbinder> Onyx47: oh yeah, could be... but some bootloader needs to be loaded by MBR... you could use another bootloader and then chainload GRUB. But why would you want to do that, if you want to use GRUB anyway...
[18:52] <duncan-nz> ichbinder, no, you could use GAG as a boot loader and Grub as a kernel manager. Look up GAG boot  manager.
[18:52] <mneptok> antiphysicist: got an external enclosure you can put the drive in? if that works, you can narrow your suspect to the mobo and its ports.
[18:52] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, still looking.
[18:52] <duncan-nz> there are 9 files.
[18:52] <BUS73D> please..howto run dumpcap with escalated privilige?
[18:53] <Onyx47> ichbinder, dunno, I personally always use GRUB and it works like a charm. Why you would do it and what the low-level implementation of it is is way over my head
[18:54] <Chariblaze> I'm a little foggy about bootloaders, but thanks for the help, overwriting the MBR sounds good. Is it simple enough to recover GRUB with a live CD, should the need arise?
[18:54] <Onyx47> just saying, it is possible
[18:54] <mneptok> BUS73D: sudo
[18:54] <ichbinder> duncan-nz: ok thanks, I'll look it up
[18:54] <BUS73D> thx mneptok but i m not usin dumpcap straight but through wireshark
[18:55] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, GAG can also rewrite the windows entry in MBR - sometimes useful when the system is really borked.
[18:55] <Onyx47> Chariblaze, it's no big deal, there's also instructions on how to do it all over the net
[18:55] <mneptok> BUS73D: then you need to invoke wireshark with sudo
[18:55] <cpruitt> I'm trying to run  xfs_check ( xfs_check <device>).  I'm embarrassed to need to ask, but how do I determine the device name for my main partition?
[18:55] <BUS73D> says me : couldn't run /usr/bin/dumpcap in child process:permission denied
[18:56] <Chariblaze> Onyx47, Ah, thanks much. Sounds good.
[18:56] <BUS73D> thx mneptok but how to run wireshark in graphical mode with sudo?
[18:56] <antiphysicist> mneptok: no i have no enclosure but i ordered a new hard drive since i wanted one anyway, i was just wondering if anyone could work out what was going on
[18:56] <mneptok> BUS73D: gksu wireshark
[18:56] <BUS73D> in the console?
[18:56] <mneptok> BUS73D: or alt-f2
[18:57] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, nope, nothing in there refering to an RTL driver
[18:57] <mneptok> antiphysicist: if the new disk works, well, you will then know the real culprit. i guess ...
[18:57] <Onyx47> cpruitt, mount -l ?
[18:57] <evo4360bhp> I keep getting an error when using wine; trying to install/run need for speed world, it get's to a point where it says I have to and rename the path/folder? Anyone running need for speed world through wine?
[18:58] <antiphysicist> mneptok: I have just used "gparted" to "created a partition table" on the disc, is this the right course of action?
[18:58] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, hmmm... did you run lsmod and see the driver running?
[18:58] <BUS73D> mneptok thxvery much that work! but i created a wireshark group with a wireshark user.. i meant to use wireshark with this ..
[18:58] <cpruitt> Onyx47: Thanks
[18:58] <mneptok> antiphysicist: yes. you need a partition table before you can create partitions
[18:58] <cpruitt> I think that's what I need (still learning this stuff)
[18:59] <antiphysicist> mneptok: thanks for all your help i will go try installation again much love <3
[18:59] <Onyx47> I know some RTL driver were removed or whatnot, a friend had such problem, dunno if he resolved it
[18:59] <dolphm> are the ubuntu "software center" ratings available on a website somewhere?
[18:59] <mneptok> BUS73D: so make sure dumpcap has a umask set to allow the wireshark group to execute it
[19:00] <Onyx47> so, no idea on how to recover my files from a borked ext4 partition? :(
[19:00] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, no reference there to an RTL module. One there for ndis wrapper though, with value 0. Which I assume means it's 'switched off'?
[19:00] <BUS73D> mneptok : do not know how to be sure sry:/
[19:00] <Emery> Does the server edition of ubuntu have the same detection rate for wireless devices as the desktop edition ?
[19:00] <mneptok> BUS73D: what does "which dumpcap" say?
[19:01] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, try to unload it and restart network just in case (rmmod then service networking restart)
[19:01] <aleuck> hello what is the name of the sound-applet on ubuntu?
[19:01] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, can you give me the command for that please?
[19:02] <Onyx47> sudo rmmod <module name>
[19:02] <n2diy> Would copying /home between two boxes result in slowing them down? That's how I've been backing up my files, and one box has become so slow it is unusably.
[19:02] <Onyx47> sudo service networking restart
[19:02] <qin> aleuck: gnome-volume-control-applet
[19:04] <qin> n2diy: top, htop, iotop -to monitor situation, in general: yes
[19:04] <duncan-nz> what do I type in cli to reinitialise my networking hardware??
[19:04] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, tnx
[19:05] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, no luck after restarting networking service?
[19:05] <BUS73D> mneptok nothing happens when i do which "dumpcap" or "/usr/bin/which dumpcap"
[19:05] <n2diy> qin, ok, top has show high "wa" percentage, which is i/o wait states I believe?
[19:05] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, actually I've tried that and just got "restart: Unknown instance: "
[19:06] <mneptok> BUS73D: sudo updatedb && locate dumpcap
[19:07] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, weird, try just start instead of restart, maybe ndiswrapper caused it to crash on initial start
[19:08] <opamp_> I was trying to change the settings of unity (to make it visible every time) but messed up. Now, though I am able to search(window button+'text') but for selecting I am unable to use array keys. I have to use mouse everytime. How to resolve this issue?
[19:09] <xangua> opamp_: tried to reset unity¿ unity --reset
[19:09] <duncan-nz> Onyx47,  now i get "networking stop/waiting"
[19:09] <BUS73D> mneptok ok that sort /usr/bin/dumpcap     /usr/share/wireshark/dumpcap/html
[19:10] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, are you sure it was running before? maybe you logged in recovery mode without networking or something?
[19:10] <opamp_>  xangua thanks a lot :)
[19:11] <macer1> Hi. I have a small problem. Why unity 2d is looking so much better than 3d(ubu 11.10)? why unity 3d is made in gtk? why?
[19:11] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, it's the box I'm on now. So the wired connection is running fine.
[19:12] <xangua> !oneiric | macer1
[19:12] <req^> Hello! How do upgrades impact performance? I have lubuntu and it's asking to upgrade to 11.04. My netbook is struggling as is, would updates and upgrades impact performance; how?
[19:12] <macer1> xangua: i know that
[19:13] <macer1> my question is why unity 3d is in gtk. unity 2d looks better
[19:13] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, sorry, I didn't catch the beginning: did it work before installing ndiswrapper?
[19:13] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, only intermittently annot all types of network. It couldn't see my open network for example only the WPA one.
[19:14] <Polah> macer1: That isn't a problem. You thinking that Unity 2D is better looking is an opinion, not a problem. Unity is based on GNOME which uses GTK, as do several other environments.
[19:14] <macer1> Polah: OK.
[19:14] <macer1> But there are lot of animations for example in unity 2d.
[19:14] <macer1> and unity 2d is made for gnome too
[19:15] <rww> and this continues to be offtopic for #ubuntu
[19:15] <Chariblaze> Can one swap partition be shared between two Linux distros easily?
[19:16] <skai> Chariblaze: yes
[19:16] <zelozelos> whats the command for starting a windows program thats not installed..via link   This isnt working   env WINEPREFIX="/home/zelo/.wine" wine C:\\windows\\command\\start.exe
[19:16] <duncan-nz> Chariblaze, no problem, thay do that automatically.
[19:16] <tylerl>  Chariblaze: but you can't hibernate if you do.
[19:17] <genii-around> Chariblaze: Not if you plan to hibernate
[19:17] <zelozelos> oops i mean this isnt working:    env WINEPREFIX="/home/zelo/.wine" wine C:\\windows\\command\\start.exe /home/zelo/Programs/RWCursorEditor/RWCursorEditor.exe
[19:17] <Chariblaze> tylerl: Good to know, thanks.
[19:18] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, well, I'm stuck, you'll need someone with far greater knowledge than me, I never dabbled much with networking hardware, I was lucky to have hardware that works natively so I never dug any deeper than this
[19:18] <cpruitt> If I disable nouveau is there a lower level generic VGS driver that will take over?  I'm running an ubuntu server and 99.9 % of the time have no monitor (just SSH) but on the off chance that I need one I'd like it to work.
[19:18] <cpruitt> Suspect nouveu may be causing lockups / reboots
[19:19] <Bootvis> any solutions for this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1595020
[19:19] <duncan-nz> Onyx47, I'm really kicking myself for not doing more homework before I put this machine together... Thanks for the help.
[19:19] <zastaph> can I change my /etc/hostname without any implications whatsoever?
[19:19] <Polah> zelozelos: Your last part should be "we /path/to/executable", you don't need C:/windows and so on before the path to the executable
[19:19] <zastaph> problems i mean
[19:19] <Onyx47> duncan-nz, np, sorry I can't be of any more help
[19:20] <zelozelos> Polah ah so it should beenv WINEPREFIX="/home/zelo/.wine" /home/zelo/Programs/RWCursorEditor/RWCursorEditor.exe	  ?
[19:21] <zelozelos> yup that worked, thank you Polah
[19:22] <memand> hey guys, can someone explain me how to un-install a kernel package?
[19:23] <zelozelos> memand you can use ubuntu tweak, its the easiest way it wont let you remove the current one ;) google it and the package will install via the software center
[19:23] <zelozelos> memand, otherwise use the package manager and search for the version numbers like 2.4.5-32 or whatever to get the exact ones
[19:23] <arcaico> Hello, I need to install cp210x on Ubuntu-2.6.28
[19:23] <arcaico> Can anyone help-me?
[19:24] <memand> zelozelos: ok thanks
[19:24] <BarBlitz> what find of kernel package ?
[19:24] <BarBlitz> rmmod module ?
[19:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:24] <BarBlitz> *kind even
[19:24] <Polah> zelozelos, wine home/zelo/Programs/RWCursorEditor/RWCursorEditor.ex
[19:25] <zelozelos> Polah oh ok thank you again just wine and path/filename works ;)
[19:25] <nitAI> does anyone know this problem? my WLAN works, but if I try to connect by a cable connection (LAN) internet does not work :(
[19:26] <n2diy> I think I've polluted my xorg-config file by copying /home between two machines, what is the command syntax to reconfigure x?
[19:26] <zelozelos> anybody know where to find a list of cursor names and which cursor the particular name is for ..like for an obvious one..arrow is prob the regular cursor..but some of the names are just strings of numbers and letters?
[19:28] <zelozelos> im working on making mouse pointers, i have most of the info..and its all working ..just need to know which cursor is what so i can set up the theme
[19:29] <n2diy> I think I've polluted my xserver file(s) by copying /home between two machines, what is the command syntax to reconfigure x?
[19:30] <qin> n2diy: Did you copy dot files? Make new user.
[19:30] <skai> n2diy: dpkg-reconfigure?
[19:30] <n2diy> qin, will that cure the problem system wide, or just for the new user?
[19:31] <yuvateja> for using p2p networks napster or gnuella which is better?
[19:31] <qin> n2diy: For new user, but you will get clean configs, and in the end, you can rename users.
[19:32] <zelozelos> oh nevermind..i found the master list ;)
[19:32] <arcaico> Hello, I need to install cp210x on Ubuntu-2.6.28
[19:32] <arcaico> Can someone help-me?
[19:33] <arcaico> ubuntu-arm
[19:33] <Polah> zelozelos: Are you making cursors for Linux using a Winodws program?
[19:33] <memand> hey guys i have just installed ubuntu (10.04) on my new laptop but i have a feeling that it is really poorly supported (since almost nothing is working properly) if anyone has the time i would really appreciate some major help here
[19:33] <memand> the laptop is this one
[19:33] <memand> http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GE620DX.html
[19:33] <memand> exept mine is with an i5
[19:34] <zelozelos> Polah no..well yeah but for both windows and linux, im using xcursorgen for the linux cursors
[19:34] <Dilberto> Anybody still hungover from celebrating 911?
[19:34] <n2diy> qin, so I create a new user, delete the old user, then rename the new user as the old user, and the new user inherits the old users files? Wouldn't the include the bad xserver files?
[19:34] <memand> Dilberto: yep
[19:34] <zelozelos> Polah do you know of a program for linux that has a gui?
[19:34] <yuvateja> how to use nap in ubuntu
[19:35] <Dilberto> Tired of niggers?
[19:35] <Dilberto> Sick of their monkeyshines?
[19:35] <Polah> n2diy: No, the new users associations would be changed. Move your old users home directory somewhere else first, then make the new one, delete the old one then rename the new one and move back program configuration files (but not special ones like X org settings and suchlike, obviously.
[19:35] <qin> n2diy: NO, make user New, rename Broken user into Old, rename New into Broken, copy important (!) files, remove Old.
[19:35] <memand> hey guys i have just installed ubuntu (10.04) on my new laptop but i have a feeling that it is really poorly supported (since almost nothing is working properly) if anyone has the time i would really appreciate some major help here
[19:35] <corecode> hi
[19:36] <memand> http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GE620DX.html
[19:36] <imark> memand: 10.04 is supported until 2013
[19:36] <corecode> can i use natty as a source for packages in oneiric?
[19:36] <corecode> i'm missing opie-client
[19:36] <Polah> corecode: You can, but some things might not work.
[19:36] <qin> n2diy: You will need to chown your files too.
[19:36] <corecode> Polah: think it would be better to use debian testing as a source?
[19:36] <Polah> imark, memand: 2015 for the server editions
[19:37] <memand> imark: ok poorly formulated there what i meant to say is that i think my laptop is poorly suported by linux
[19:37] <imark> thanks polah, shouldnt overlok servers
[19:37] <imark> *overlook
[19:37] <Polah> corecode: Probably the same issues would apply. You can try, but I'm just saying it might not work. Why not just use Natty anyway and then you can upgrade to Oneiric in a month or so?
[19:37] <xangua> memand: try latest ubuntu then
[19:37] <imark> i see
[19:38] <[snake]> Hello, I need to know how to turn my effects on automatically when I log in. I've been using the compiz fusion icon to load/stop compiz, and now it always logs in with them off.
[19:38] <imark> the newest linux kernel has loads of new drivers
[19:38] <n2diy> qin, Polah, ok, this is becoming more complex then I was hoping for, but I suspect re-installing, WITHOUT formatting /home won't solve the problem either?
[19:38] <corecode> Polah: i need the 3.0 kernel
[19:38] <corecode> Polah: natty didn't install
[19:38] <Polah> memand: What xangua said. Try 11.04 to see if that has better support, if not you may be able to find drivers for your hardware on Linux online, or perhaps use Windows drivers with ndiswrapper if necessary.
[19:38] <zelozelos> dang the list dosent have any of those wierd names w the numbers and letters...i think theyre the accessibility cursors but im not sure
[19:39] <Polah> corecode: You could check the source repositories or PPAs for later version suitable for Oneiric. Ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:39] <memand> xangun: i tried but every ubuntu cd i have put in since yesterday has failed to load
[19:39] <Polah> n2diy: Just create a new user (adduser), set it up in sudoers and with any necessary permissions, log in under that user, delete the old one and then rename the new one if necessary.
[19:39] <memand> polah: i tried but every ubuntu cd i have put in since yesterday has failed to load
[19:40] <Polah> memand: Have you verified your ISOs and checked CDs are burned correctly?
[19:40] <imark> memand; the dicks failed to load entirely, what versions have you tried, and are you getting error messages
[19:40] <imark> haha discs*
[19:40] <memand> lol
[19:40] <[snake]> Has Ubuntu 11 gotten better yet? with support and stuff, because last time I updated, I hated it so much that I reinstalled ubuntu just to get away from it.
[19:41] <nilsh>  Hi, is there some way to copy the settings I've recently done in grandr? It keeps resetting everytime I log out, and I would like the changes to be permanent
[19:41] <qin> [snake]: Yes
[19:41] <memand> Polah: how to verify the iso? i got it from the ubuntu front page
[19:41] <[snake]> qin, how, better?
[19:41] <[snake]> (how much
[19:42] <imark> memand; run in a terminal md5sum <path to iso file>
[19:42] <imark> and compared to the iso downloaded from ...
[19:42] <corecode> Polah: ubuntu+1 is silent :/
[19:42] <qin> [snake]: I think, it just my point of view shifted.
[19:42] <B0g4r7> What's the apt command to show all of the files installed by a given package?
[19:42] <n2diy> qin, Polah, ok, I think I'll try reconfiguring X before trying the new user approach, thanks.
[19:43] <n2diy> can someone tell me the syntax for reconfigure the xserver?
[19:43] <B0g4r7> (an already installed package)
[19:43] <qin> Bootvis: dpkg -L packege
[19:43] <memand> imark: on it
[19:43] <qin> *package
[19:43] <imark> here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[19:43] <B0g4r7> Thanks qin.
[19:45] <Polah> !md5sum | memand
[19:45] <memand> the md5 is good
[19:45] <[snake]> I need to know how to turn my effects on automatically when I log in. I've been using the compiz fusion icon to load/stop compiz, and now it always logs in with them off automatically. there is no setting to change this that I am aware of, and logging out with effects on doesn't change anything either. I'm on 10.04 64 bit ubuntu
[19:45] <memand> polah: the md5 is good
[19:46] <imark> then try using unetbootin or ubuntu's usb creator to put the image onto a usb instead if you have one
[19:46] <imark> if it still doesnt work, well need some more details about what its doing]
[19:47] <genii-around> Or burn the CD at 2x and make sure you verify the burn
[19:47] <memand> imark: do you think i can use my android to boot from?
[19:47] <zastaph> i would say remote desktop is slower than tightvnc.. and when I choose a resolution from the remote desktop client it is not used.. instead it's the current resolution on the guest OS that is used, and if my RD resolution is lower i just can't see the rest of the picture
[19:47] <zastaph> wrong channel
[19:48] <imark> use your phone,.... maybe, ive never tried, if you set it to act as a hard drive, in theory it should work
[19:48] <memand> imark: and i shouldnt have to format it right?
[19:49] <Bootvis> qin: which package?
[19:49] <edgarmagalhaes> Algum brasileiro?
[19:49] <Pici> !br | edgarmagalhaes
[19:49] <edgarmagalhaes> thanks.
[19:50] <shadow98> hey guys im trying to wget a file and it needs a license key on the end...i can get it to work with lynx by using single quotes
[19:50] <imark> memand; thats the difficult part, the usb creator might try to add boot flags to your phones sd card, it could get messy, its uncharted territory i think
[19:50] <shadow98> but it opens the lynx browser first
[19:50] <memand> better make backup then ;)
[19:50] <memand> ill try
[19:50] <shadow98> how can i download file with wget that require extra parameters
[19:51] <B0g4r7> shadow98, enclosing the url in single quotes always worked for me.
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> shadow98: http://linuxmanpages.com/man1/wget.1.php
[19:52] <shadow98> B0g4r7, i tried that with get...
[19:52] <shadow98> but it puts a long string and doesn't download the tar.gz file
[19:52] <imark> memand; at least android has that restore to factory state as a failsafe, all of your contacts backup up on google?
[19:53] <memand> imark: i dont think ill need that big of a backup, it only gives the computer access to the sd-card! right?
[19:54] <B0g4r7> shadow98, hm...I would expect the same thing that works using lynx to work using wget.  After all, it's the shell that is likely to be reacting in an undesired way to some characters in the URL.
[19:54] <shadow98> yeah lynx works it pops browser and ask me questions
[19:54] <imark> memand; this is true, in theory your safe to try
[19:55] <B0g4r7> Oh, asks questions huh...
[19:55] <cad4j> I'm brand new to Linux. Can anyone help me install a java plugin for firefox
[19:55] <xangua> !java | cad4j
[19:55] <B0g4r7> shadow98: Yeah, that's a bit more complicated.  I would look at using curl to accomplish your goal.
[19:55] <shadow98> i did try curl --silent
[19:55] <shadow98> and quote
[19:56] <nixpro> hey guys
[19:56] <memand> imark: i will report back ;)
[19:56] <Pici> shadow98: Whats wrong with just putting quotes around the URL and specifying the output file using -O ?
[19:56] <B0g4r7> If it's asking questions (like asking you to authenticate), you will need to find some way to give the expected answers in advance. (assuming that your goal is non-interactive operation)
[19:57] <imark> memand; good luck, ive got to go, but if thats just the same it could be your hardware not liking the kernel, if thats the case i would use the most up to date alternative buil found here http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[19:57] <nixpro> question, Im running ubuntu 11 and my touchpad shows up as a ps/2 mouse instead of an alps touchpad. how can I re-install the touchpad driver so it shows up as a touchpad again?
[19:57] <memand> imark: thanks
[19:57] <imark> memand; its development but if it works, it works right
[19:57] <imark> good luck
[19:58] <memand> thanks again
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[20:00] <Canaimero-72c5> buenas tardes
[20:00] <Canaimero-72c5> alguien de VZLA?
[20:00] <urlin2u> !es | Canaimero-72c5
[20:00] <daddy> gay
[20:01] <squid> |it
[20:01] <squid> !it
[20:01] <nocilis> does anyone know how to display all urls that are being connected to by localhost?
[20:03] <nocilis> i've found wireshark and tcpdump, would those accomplish this?
[20:03] <tylerl> nocilis: you'd have to examine the traffic stream and extract the URLs. You can do it easily after-the-fact with wireshark, but it's a report, not a realtime graph.
[20:03] <B0g4r7> nocilis, is your goal just to do this "for now", or is it to collect these URLs on an ongoing basis?
[20:04] <cad4j> I looked at the sun java thing but it didn't help me. I'm really just looking to find a java plugin for firefox
[20:04] <rullie> is there an URL that can educate me all about nvidia driver and ubuntu?  I have absolutely no idea what kind of driver I'm using
[20:04] <Polah> nocilis, netstat can print active connections
[20:04] <nocilis> just display them to see what my browser is connecting to B0g4rl
[20:04] <zemus_usr> Sounds like a web server log kinda solution
[20:04] <nocilis> Polah trying that thx
[20:04] <nocilis> tyler1 ok I have wireshark that's helpful
[20:05] <zemus_usr> Proxify your browser through some locally running logging proxy
[20:05] <B0g4r7> nocilis, wireshark can probably accomplish that.
[20:05] <nocilis> Polah perfect, solved it
[20:05] <nocilis> B0g4r7 yeah, looks like a bit more than I need
[20:05] <zemus_usr> netstat will not display urls, just hostnames
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> nocilis: try lsof -i
[20:05] <Polah> !info icedtea | cad4j
[20:05] <B0g4r7> Also, the proxy solution would be a nice way to go.
[20:06] <kernelpanicker> I need to install spamassassin on ubuntu 10.04 (which has postfix/dovecot/mailman)... any suggestions for a good tutorial?
[20:06] <Polah> cad4j: Perhaps not then. icedtea-plugin is the browser plugin for java.
[20:07] <cad4j> Polah, thank you
[20:07] <nocilis> hmm Polah after a few seconds it stops
[20:07] <Guest73129> should not programs under /etc/init.d start automatically?
[20:08] <nocilis> dumps a whole bunch of lines on screen unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     6421
[20:08] <B0g4r7> nocilis, try using the -nn argument.
[20:08] <rasusto> hello all
[20:08] <B0g4r7> That will disable dns lookup, which is what takes so much time.
[20:08] <rasusto> what are you trying to do?
[20:08] <nocilis> B0g4r7 then the stopping happens instantly
[20:08] <B0g4r7> Yes, that is how netstat behaves.
[20:09] <nocilis> is there anyway to have an ongoing printout of urls being connected to?
[20:09] <B0g4r7> It prints all connections at that instant in time.
[20:09] <rasusto> netstat --inet
[20:09] <B0g4r7> I would go for the proxy setup to accomplish that.
[20:09] <B0g4r7> Squid makes some nice logfiles.
[20:10] <Loki__> hello
[20:10] <Loki__> hello
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> nocilis: try lsof -i
[20:10] <nocilis> rasusto it still stops after printing a few urls
[20:10] <rasusto> it prints all active network connections
[20:11] <rasusto> i dont know why it would stop after a few
[20:11] <nocilis> MonkeyDust yes, but I want an ongoing printout of network connections
[20:11] <rasusto> oh, like a rolling printout?
[20:11] <nocilis> rasusto every time localhost makes a connection I want an echo of the url
[20:11] <nocilis> exactly
[20:12] <B0g4r7> I again recommend using squid.  It's not very hard to set up really.
[20:12] <Loki__> test
[20:13] <rasusto> so, is there a way to have both iproute and arping installed at the same time?
[20:13] <nocilis> B0g4r7 would that accomplish a rolling printout?
[20:13] <nocilis> that's all I want
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> nocilis: try watch 'lsof -i'
[20:14] <B0g4r7> nocilis, sure, if you use tail or whatever to watch it's logfile.
[20:14] <nocilis> MonkeyDust I get a blank screen
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> nocilis: with the single quotes
[20:15] <ferlegend> hey
[20:15] <rasusto> you can always watch netstat --inet or watch lsof -i
[20:15] <rasusto> its a little better
[20:15] <ferlegend> see this url
[20:15] <ferlegend> http://www.losmashablados.com/2011/hackean-servidores-de-la-fundacion-linux/8715/portada/
[20:15] <nocilis> MonkeyDust and rasusto -- perfect!
[20:15] <nocilis> i didn't know about the watch command
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> thumbs up, nocilis (y)
[20:17] <rasusto> it will update every 2 seconds, but that is only after the command finishes listing all the connection. it could take a few seconds for that to happen but you can watch your connections in somewhat-realtime
[20:18] <nocilis> yay now I can see what my computer is doing in the background
[20:18]  * nocilis doesn't trust the internet.
[20:18] <Sterist> how do i prevent the CPU Frequency Monitor applet from resetting to core 1 after each log out / reboot?
[20:18] <rasusto> wait till you open firefox and it explodes with google connections
[20:18] <kv102t> i forgot to start transmission in gui.
[20:19] <rasusto> anything to 1e100 is google
[20:19] <kv102t> i forgot to start transmission in gui.  How do i do in terminal?
[20:19] <rasusto> use rtorrent
[20:19] <Sterist> how do i prevent the CPU Frequency Monitor applet from resetting to core 1 after each log out / reboot?
[20:22] <Tixos> hey, is there a free alternative to itunes which is drag and drop for ipod?
[20:24] <rasusto> rhythmbox works, as well as banshee
[20:24] <urlin2u> Sterist, what release that cpu monitor is a ppa in Natty
[20:24] <Tixos> ok
[20:24] <Tixos> ill take alook
[20:24] <Sterist> urlin2u sorry could you rephrase that for me?
[20:25] <rasusto> they come with ubuntu. rb prior to 11.04 and banshee after
[20:25] <sjefen6> How can I make the grub menu timeout (ubuntu server) http://pastebin.com/SwsK1xPL?
[20:25] <urlin2u> Sterist, what release
[20:25] <jrib> !grub | sjefen6
[20:25] <sjefen6> jrib: yeah, I have read that page up and down sereral times.
[20:26] <zetter> my gmail notifier thingy and the network thingy disappeared from my panel
[20:26] <zetter> how do i restore them to the panel?
[20:26] <jrib> sjefen6: the second page in the link tells you how to modify grub timeout settings
[20:26] <Sterist> urlin2u Lucid. i dont know if you remember my past questions about the 32/64bit OS issues, but i took someone's advice when reinstalling the OS and went with Lucid instead of Maverick
[20:26] <Jordan_U> sjefen6: The problem you're having is that the menu never automatically boots an entry?
[20:26] <sjefen6> Jordan_U: yep
[20:27] <Jordan_U> sjefen6: Can you pastebin the contents of /boot/grub/grubenv ?
[20:27] <Sterist> urlin2u kind of want to go back to maverick though... which on a side note, this applet did work fine with
[20:27] <urlin2u> Sterist, slightly, it just helps to know which release you dealing with in natty that cpu monitor is not there you have to get it from a ppa, not sure of a fix for you.
[20:28] <zetter> are the internet gods ignoring my question because i am a noob?
[20:28] <zetter> :(
[20:28] <zetter> halp! gmail notifier and network icon thingy disappeared from panel!
[20:28] <zetter> what do i now?
[20:28] <sjefen6> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/9AkBF0a3
[20:28] <Jordan_U> zetter: You're not being ignored. If nobody knows the answer to your question then nobody will answer.
[20:29] <zetter> do you know the answer to my question?
[20:29] <zetter> Jordan_U, *
[20:29] <B0g4r7> Perhaps your lower-level network thingie has also vanished.
[20:29] <urlin2u> zetter, first you don't mention important details such as the release and desktop
[20:29] <Sterist> urlin2u kind of want to go back to maverick though... which on a side note, this applet did work fine with
[20:29] <Sterist> urlin2u oops disregard
[20:29] <zetter> urlin2u, natty narwhal gnome
[20:29] <Jordan_U> zetter: No. If I did I would have answered it.
[20:29] <zetter> gnome problem
[20:29] <zetter> the network icon disappeared from my panel
[20:30] <urlin2u> zetter, have to tried loging out then in
[20:30] <zetter> urlin2u, yes
[20:30] <B0g4r7> Does your network stuff still work?
[20:30] <urlin2u> zetter, have you tweaked compiz?
[20:30] <zetter> yes
[20:30] <zetter> no
[20:30] <zetter> it's just the icons that disappeared
[20:30] <zetter> even the sound of the gmail notifier still works
[20:30] <zetter> so when i get a new mail
[20:31] <zetter> i get the sound
[20:31] <zetter> You've got a new mail!
[20:31] <B0g4r7> I assume you have tried rebooting, yes?
[20:31] <Jordan_U> sjefen6: Odd, the menu really should be timing out. Can you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces?
[20:31] <zetter> but the icon disappeared
[20:31] <IdleOne> !enter
[20:31] <jrib> zetter: stop pressing enter please
[20:31] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | sjefen6
[20:31] <zetter> B0g4r7, yes
[20:31] <zetter> jrib, i panic, i press enter prematurely
[20:31] <jrib> zetter: ok, well stop...
[20:32] <zetter> why? do you get a beep nois every time i press enter?
[20:32] <jrib> zetter: no
[20:32] <B0g4r7> zetter, see topic.
[20:32] <Sterist> !spam | zetter
[20:32] <Sterist> ubottu doesnt know anything about spam :(
[20:33] <zetter> B0g4r7, i may have slipped with the mouse and then they both disappeared both the icons... is that possible?
[20:33] <meegooo> if i install gcc 4.1 with apt, will it remove the current gcc  4.5  ?
[20:33] <jrib> meegooo: no
[20:33] <zetter> B0g4r7, what is the name of the network thingy under ubuntu natty narwhal?
[20:33] <meegooo> i need the both version
[20:34] <executionist> can I dial a ppoe connection from ubuntu? If yes then from where, ty
[20:34] <B0g4r7> I dunno zetter.  I'm not that familiar with gnome really.
[20:34] <rasusto> nm-appet
[20:34] <rasusto> in the repos it is called gnome-network-manager
[20:34] <zetter> thanks, nm.applet, that's it
[20:34] <meegooo> jrib: so just must change the gcc link ?
[20:35] <urlin2u> zetter, gnome-network-manager-applet  should start it, but will disapeer if you claose the terminal.
[20:35] <jrib> meegooo: you'll have gcc-4.1 and gcc-4.5
[20:35] <urlin2u> close*
[20:36] <urlin2u> zetter, look in startup applications if it is clicked on
[20:36] <rasusto> gnome-network-manager-applet &
[20:36] <rasusto> makes it run in bkgrnd
[20:36] <urlin2u> rasusto, cool did not know that
[20:36] <Sterist> is there a way to upgrade to maverick from lucid without CD or USB?
[20:36] <jrib> !upgrade | Sterist
[20:36] <zetter> it is checked on in startup applications. weird.
[20:37] <Jonathan458> anybody know much about transmissions for ubuntu?
[20:37] <rasusto> i recommend rtorrent
[20:37] <jrib> Jonathan458: ask an actual question
[20:37] <zetter> so both the gmail notifier and the network manager are running, it's just the icon have disappeared from the gnome panel.
[20:37] <Jonathan458> okay
[20:38] <sjefen6> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/JNqu87wt
[20:39] <executionist> how can I dial a pppoe connection :/
[20:39] <jrib> !pppoe | executionist
[20:40] <mattpat> Hi there, I just installed 11.04 Server on a Eee Box, and sadly it doesn't contain the network driver for my chipset (the Desktop version does, however). I'm looking for the jme module for the JMC250 controller
[20:41] <mattpat> Any idea how to go about doing that? Without network access? :P
[20:42] <zetter> this is in the network manager box: nm-applet --sm-disable
[20:42] <popey> usb stick? mattpat
[20:42] <zetter> what's ---sm-disable?
[20:42] <tzhuang> hellow
[20:42] <mattpat> popey: Yeah, I have one, but I'm not sure where to *find* the module; can it be found on the Desktop ISO?
[20:42] <tzhuang> I'm looking for a file I know is in a folder
[20:42] <popey> mattpat: i assume its jme.ko?
[20:43] <tzhuang> hidden in one of the subdirectories
[20:43] <rasusto> @zetter most likely startup options
[20:43] <popey> mattpat: on my 11.10 system there is a /lib/modules/3.0.0-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/jme.ko
[20:43] <tzhuang> if i do a ls -R | grep "pattern"
[20:43] <tzhuang>  i can see it
[20:43] <tzhuang> but i just don't know which subdirectory it's in
[20:43] <tzhuang> any idea?
[20:43] <executionist> ty jrib, also how can I check if my nic is properly installed and working?
[20:43] <zetter> rasusto, let me remove the --sm-disable and see what happens
[20:43] <Aquix> tzhuang    man grep
[20:44] <rasusto> @zetter if you remove it it doesnt show up in the panel
[20:44] <zetter> oh
[20:44] <jrib> executionist: I don't know, just try to use it I guess
[20:44] <tzhuang> Aquix: doh. okay
[20:44] <zetter> rasusto, but it's not showing up in the panel as it is
[20:44] <rasusto> @zetter im glad you pointed that out i was wondering how to restart the nm without having to reboot
[20:44] <urlin2u> sjefen6, your missing /etc/fstab  Jordan_U is better in this area hold on.
[20:44] <bastidrazor> zetter: you're seeing that on nm-applet?
[20:44] <jrib> tzhuang: use "find"
[20:44] <popey> mattpat: i see the same file on my 11.04 system too.. /2.6.38-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/jme.ko
[20:44] <memand> does ubuntu suport intel 64-bit?
[20:44] <Sterist> jrib ubottoo is not the solution to everything unfortunately. his upgrade commands regarding lucid -> maverick are not up-to-date: it would lead to a Natty install.
[20:44] <rasusto> @zetter unity right?
[20:44] <mattpat> popey: Well. It's here. Is there a way to tell if it's being loaded, and if not, load it? (I'm not very familiar with drivers)
[20:44] <xangua> memand: yes
[20:45] <zetter> rasusto, natty narwhal classic view?
[20:45] <popey> mattpat: lsmod | grep jme
[20:45] <Sterist> is there a way to upgrade to maverick from lucid without CD or USB?
[20:45] <memand> xangua: cool
[20:45] <zetter> bastidrazor, startup applications
[20:45] <popey> mattpat: that will show if it's loaded
[20:45] <urlin2u> Sterist, no
[20:45] <rasusto> @Sterist the internet
[20:45] <xangua> Sterist: just run update manager
[20:45] <mattpat> popey: Well then. It is being loaded. So clearly there's another issue going on, which is considerably more of a problem
[20:46] <popey> mattpat: is that a wifi or wired device? (sorry, I only know that computer by name, never used one)
[20:46] <sjefen6> urlin2u: this is my fstab http://pastebin.com/VCPMCcaQ
[20:46] <urlin2u> Sterist, sorry yes
[20:46] <Sterist> xangua i would just like to reiterate real quick that update manager no longer installs maverick
[20:46] <mattpat> popey: It's wired (and the wireless doesn't work either, but I can live with that)
[20:46] <xangua> Sterist: need to enable normal updates, lts default set is to upgrade to lts
[20:46] <tzhuang> jrib: thanks!
[20:46] <popey> mattpat: anything in dmesg?
[20:46] <popey> mattpat: dmesg | grep eth
[20:46] <popey> mattpat: or, dmesg | grep jme
[20:46] <urlin2u> sjefen6, it is not showing in the script in tthe sda1
[20:47] <mattpat> popey: Well it looks as though it's just as simple as the network cable isn't working.
[20:47] <popey> mattpat: that would be best-case scenario :D
[20:48] <mattpat> popey: I assumed it was more since the installer said it didn't recognize the network interface, but after changing things it seems that the interface is now being recognized, it's just that the cable doesn't work :P
[20:48] <popey> mattpat: Huzzah! Time for beer!
[20:48] <urlin2u> sjefen6, any reason sda1 is a extr2
[20:48] <n-iCe> my mic works, I can here typing and clicking mouse, but not my voice, how's that even possible?
[20:48] <urlin2u> ext2*
[20:48] <jrib> n-iCe: are you a vampire?
[20:49] <mattpat> popey: Thanks for the help :) I'll try it on another port and hope it works. And if it doesn't, well I'll probably be back.
[20:49] <bastidrazor> heh
[20:49] <bastidrazor> super hearing when one turns to the dead side..?
[20:49] <sjefen6> urlin2u: it is a default ubuntu-server 11.04 install
[20:49] <n-iCe> don't know what's happening
[20:49] <Jordan_U> n-iCe: Is this a laptop?
[20:49] <n-iCe> how do I configurate my microphone
[20:49] <n-iCe> Jordan_U:  yes a laptop
[20:49] <urlin2u> sjefen6, ah, never ran a server
[20:50] <n-iCe> mic is built in
[20:50] <Jordan_U> n-iCe: It makes sense that clicking and typing would be particularly loud at least then.
[20:50] <Jordan_U> n-iCe: Do you know where in the laptop the mic is?
[20:51] <n-iCe> Jordan_U: no
[20:51] <n-iCe> but I supposed is next to the webcam
[20:51] <zetter> gnome is so irritating at times...
[20:52] <zetter> icons just disappear, it doesn't launch properly every now and then
[20:52] <tkenney> n-iCe: look for a pinhole anywhere near it, that's usually the mic
[20:52] <n-iCe> next to the webca,
[20:52] <n-iCe> webcam
[20:53] <n-iCe> but no sound
[20:53] <tkenney> n-iCe: usually, yes, but other times is still somewhere on the frame of the LCD
[20:53] <n-iCe> how's that important anyway
[20:53] <tkenney> n-iCe: that's the mic
[20:53] <Guest32511> Hello Everybody
[20:54] <n-iCe> I am screaming at it, and no sound
[20:54] <n-iCe> Jordan_U?
[20:54] <tkenney> n-iCe: since I came late to the discussion, what program are you using to listen to the sound?
[20:55] <n-iCe> tkenney:  well skype, the record one
[20:55] <n-iCe> tkenney:  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/screenshotzod.jpg/
[20:55] <n-iCe> hope that helps, all is set
[20:55] <n-iCe> just no sound
[20:55] <tkenney> n-iCe: and you can hear your typing through the speakers, but not your voice, correct?
[20:56] <linx> http://nyandance.com//video/19
[20:56] <linx> hmm
[20:56] <zetter> ok, let's assume the nm-applet is not running for me, how would i add it to my gnome panel? natty
[20:56] <linx> ^__^
[20:56] <n-iCe> tkenney: right
[20:56] <urlin2u> zetter, we told you already
[20:56] <arkhon> hey fools
[20:56] <zetter> urlin2u, no need to shout
[20:57] <urlin2u> zetter, I wasn't
[20:57] <arkhon> how can i place some attributes to my pendrive in linux?
[20:57] <urlin2u> zetter, THIS is shouting
[20:58] <zetter> so i type gnome-network-manager into terminal and press enter?
[20:58] <anonissimus> when trying to cnonvert some tiff files I get a cannot open file
[20:58] <urlin2u> zetter, gnome-network-manager-applet &
[20:58] <SilverFox> where is bash autocomplete configured (what's it called?)
[20:58] <zetter> urlin2u, thx
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> zetter: try nm-applet
[20:58] <dracmas> nm-applet &
[20:58] <urlin2u> zetter, NO PROBLEM lol
[20:59] <anonissimus> while the file is owned by the user runnign the tiffopen cmd
[20:59] <MisterKpak> hey
[20:59] <zetter> urlin2u, command not found
[20:59] <w30> arkhon, you have to make one with persistant storage
[20:59] <zetter> i will try MonkeyDust's tip
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> zetter: try nm-applet
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> ok
[20:59] <erkan^> which programma can you make a blog for wordpress?
[20:59] <urlin2u> zetter, try dracmas command
[21:00] <tkenney> n-iCe: it looks like the system is recognizing more than one mic device. Make sure to check your Sound configuration within Skype
[21:00] <zetter> An instance of nm-applet is already running.
[21:00] <zetter> ** (nm-applet:2413): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[21:00] <zetter> but the icon is still not on my gnome panel
[21:00] <zetter> :(
[21:00] <dracmas> do you have a tray section on your panel?
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> zetter: you can add nm-applet in dconf, moment
[21:01] <n-iCe> tkenney:  I have selected all the mic options in skype, and is the same
[21:01] <zetter> dracmas, what's a tray section? i have clock and weather app
[21:01] <Loki__> test
[21:01] <Loki__> hello
[21:02] <paladinlaw> can someone help me with a solution to my low resolution problem? i have searched the web everywhere and tryied their solutions but doesnt help me. My max resolution is 640x480.
[21:02] <rww> SyberBot-LOKI-PC: If you do not stop joining and quitting this channel repeatedly, you will lose access to it.
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> zetter: use dconf-editor -- Desktop - Unity - Panel -- there you can add nm-applet
[21:03] <zetter> i don't use unity
[21:03] <zetter> i changed to classic view
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> great, neither do i
[21:04] <zetter> dconf or gconf?
[21:04] <kon_> i am experiencing random lags on one of my systems, some monitoring with iostat showed the cpu is in IOWAIT while this happens. how can i find what the cause for this is and does anybody have some pointers what this could be?
[21:04] <DaSinge> How do i set a script to run at shutdown??
[21:04] <explodes> Is there a keyboard command, or a way to assign one, that switches between workspaces (like Expose` on a Mac)
[21:05] <tkenney> n-iCe: just out of curiosity, have you launched Skype as root from the terminal and tested the audio that way?
[21:05] <Polah> explodes, ctrl+alt+arrow keys by default
[21:05] <DaSinge> nudge
[21:06] <w30> explodes, or control aternate down arrow
[21:06] <uns0b1ll> i need to automatically run this every time my ubuntu starts up : udo ifconfig tup0 128.0.0.1/30 up
[21:07] <uns0b1ll> any way to automate it ?
[21:07] <megamind> Hi
[21:07] <explodes> excellent, thanks everyone
[21:07] <Polah> uns0b1ll: Add it to cron with @reboot
[21:07] <explodes> uns0b1ll: system > preferences > startup applications
[21:07] <explodes> but Polah's answer is more technical
[21:08] <Polah> DaSinge: Adding it to /etc/rc0.d might work.
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> zetter: try killall nm-applet, it will disappear and reappear
[21:08] <uns0b1ll> cant edit /usr/bin/crontab or cron
[21:09] <uns0b1ll> forgot how to edit crontab
[21:09] <w30> uns0b1ll, maybe rc.ocal?
[21:09] <zetter> MonkeyDust, some guy in gnome helped me... i added the notification area applet to the panel
[21:09] <zetter> and they appeared again
[21:09] <llutz> uns0b1ll: crontab -e
[21:09] <zetter> both icons
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> okay
[21:09] <Polah> uns0b1ll, crontab -e , you may want to do it with sudo to run the command as root if it's for networking
[21:09] <nessus> I run Ubuntu 10.04 off of a key drive! Will the 32 bit version run on a 64 bit processor
[21:09] <uns0b1ll> why is there 2 daemons ? crontab and rc.local ?
[21:09] <paladinlaw> can someone help me with a solution to my low resolution problem? i have searched the web everywhere and tryied their solutions but doesnt help me. My max resolution is 640x480.
[21:10] <llutz> uns0b1ll: rc.local isn't a daemon, it is a script running at boottime
[21:10] <sjefen6> Jordan_U: you got anything?
[21:10] <uns0b1ll> perhaps i use that instead ? can i just type same commands there
[21:10] <zelozelos> anybody know about xcursorgen, i know how to use it, i was wondering in the config file is it necessary to use the full path of the image or will it work in the directory the config and terminal is in when invoked?
[21:10] <Uxi> hii ppl!!
[21:11] <uns0b1ll> since i rather not change cron too much
[21:11] <zetter> MonkeyDust, i must have slipped with the most and deleted the notification area applet from my panel
[21:11] <uns0b1ll> In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution
[21:11] <uns0b1ll> # bits. =- what is that mean /
[21:12] <uns0b1ll> can i just type my "ifconfig tap0 128.0.0.1/32" there ?
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> zetter: we're here to help and learn (amen)
[21:12] <zelozelos> in other words can i change 50 8 0 /home/zelo/Desktop/arrow12/0010.png 100 so all the line has is    50 8 0 /0010.png 100  to save a ton of extra typing when i make multiple config files?
[21:12] <zetter> MonkeyDust, yes thank you
[21:12] <w30> paladinlaw, maybe your video driver ony supports 640x480?
[21:12] <Polah> nessus: Yes. 32-bit will run on 32- and 64-bit capable processors. 64-bit architecture will only run on 64-bit capable processors
[21:12] <paladinlaw> w30: the driver or the card?
[21:13] <nessus> Thanks Polah
[21:13] <paladinlaw> w30: because i got a geforce 250 GTS
[21:13] <Polah> zelozelos, ~/Desktop/0010.png  would replace /home/user part of the path
[21:13] <w30> paladinlaw, probably the driver unless your video card is 40 years old
[21:14] <paladinlaw> w30: hmm i used the driver that came with "additional drivers"
[21:14] <paladinlaw> w30: the card is like 1 year old or something
[21:14] <zelozelos> Polah well  that helps a little ;_) thankyou
[21:15] <w30> paladinlaw, additional drivers as in Nvidia? propriatory
[21:15] <Polah> zelozelos: Or if you're doing multiple lines with the same thing in a single script, you could use variables to define it once them just replace the value with the variable later in the script.
[21:16] <paladinlaw> w30: the hardware driver software which is in ubuntu.
[21:16] <zelozelos> Polah i guess ill try without the path and just the filename, its not a script persay its strictly formatted no extra spaces, entries, even blank lines or it wont read the config file correctly
[21:17] <Polah> zelozelos: Can't put them in ""?
[21:17] <zelozelos> polah i dont think so but i havent tried, im not that good w that kind of stuff yet
[21:17] <kon_> anyone had performance issues due to CPU iowait on ubuntu 64 bit with multicore + raid?
[21:17] <w30> paladinlaw, I use the Nvidia drivers avaiable when you enable the mutiverse repos or whatever they are caed
[21:18] <w30> called
[21:18] <zelozelos> Polah i figured if it errors out on an extra space it prob wont take anything other then the specified line
[21:18] <paladinlaw> w30: what do you mean?
[21:19] <Polah> zelozelos, if you have a space in an unconfined string then it'll attempt to parse the values on either side of the space as two strings, if you put the entire string with spaces in "", '' or similar then it'll read it as a single string, or should do. Or you could try escaping your spaces by putting a \ before them, for example  /etc/file\ space/blah
[21:19] <paladinlaw> w30: im new to ubuntu:P
[21:20] <w30> paladinlaw, goto system admin additiona drivers and use that
[21:20] <paladinlaw> i am
[21:20] <mattpat> popey: Turns out the network jack on my Eee does not appear to be properly seated. If I hold it in tightly, I get a link, but if I just let it sit there I don't. That, I can solve later. The other issue, though, is that I only get an IPv6 address. Thoughts?
[21:20] <zelozelos> Polah i wish i could write a script that would run xcursorgen, and allows for input for the numbered items to be entered in only once and would read the folder and make the config on the fly as it read each image in the folder varibles
[21:20] <paladinlaw> w30: i am doing it
[21:21] <popey> mattpat: thats odd, no idea, sorr
[21:21] <popey> *sorry
[21:21] <zelozelos> if that makes any sense to you ;) not sure it even does to me hahaa
[21:21] <meegooo> i need gcc 4.1 header files in  /usr/include , but they are  4.5 ? what should i do ?
[21:21] <paladinlaw> w30: i think before i installed it i could have 800x600 but when i installed it i can only choose 640x480
[21:22] <zelozelos> Polah, maybe i should do a psudo code for the logic and see what i can come up with...it would save a TON of work even for just one pointer theme
[21:22] <Polah> mattpat: That'll be configuration on your computer or whatever you use to assign IPs to your network (probably a router)
[21:22] <mattpat> Polah: Do you know where to look for those settings?
[21:22] <paladinlaw> w30: brb going to restart comp.
[21:24] <uns0b1ll> how to view all my usb serial adapters ? dmesg or lscpi
[21:25] <ni1s> uns0b1ll, lsusb
[21:25] <paladinlaw> w30: back
[21:25] <uns0b1ll> ye just remembed it :) thanks - now i see each line for individual serial port
[21:26] <uns0b1ll> but i cant see my usb-to-serial adapters ;(
[21:26] <uns0b1ll> i have 4 total but only one showing
[21:28] <paladinlaw> is envy good to use to install graphic drivers?
[21:28] <w30> paladinlaw, when you install the propriatory drivers you (me any way) gets a System admin NVIDIA Xserver settings
[21:28] <paladinlaw> w30: ye i got that
[21:29] <w30> paladinlaw, mess with that then
[21:29] <paladinlaw> w30: tryied... no luck
[21:29] <mattpat> Anyone familiar with getting wifi to work on the eee box eb1007 under Ubuntu Server? I'm not even sure what to add to /etc/network/interfaces, or what driver it uses (it's an Atheros chipset, but not sure what to look for in lsmod)
[21:29] <paladinlaw> w30: max resolution 640x480.
[21:30] <mouse_> I have a imwheel question.  I've mapped page_up and page_down to a couple of extra mouse buttons but what I'm wondering is there a way to use these buttons in a window by hovering the cursor over it and without changing focus to it?
[21:31] <meegooo> is there gcc 4.1 available for install on 11.04 ?
[21:31] <w30> paladinlaw, another thing: the additional driver tool is very confusing to me anyway, there is two driver choices and you have to activate one. and it seems to work the opposite as to what I percieve it to be.
[21:31] <johwil> Hi. tryed usx2yloader did NOT WORK to install TASCAM us144mkII. Anyone? I need help.
[21:32] <genii-around> !info gcc natty
[21:32] <paladinlaw> w30: i installed both :P
[21:33] <w30> paladinlaw, you have exceeded my knowledge unless you can pick a different monitor somehow?  :=(
[21:34] <johwil> Why can't I get TASCAM us144mkII working?
[21:34] <paladinlaw> w30: hmm.. cant .... nvm thx for your help. i will try to remove the driver and install it again :D
[21:35] <w30> paladinlaw, all my installs find me a decent monitor spec  though
[21:35] <erik1984> Just a quick question, how to search in your commands history? I forgot
[21:35] <mattpat> Would it make sense that my Atheros-chipset wifi adapter might be called phy0? Trying to add that in /etc/network/interfaces results in no success, but I see a few lines in dmesg that seem to indicate that's what it's called
[21:36] <Hing> erik: up arrow, if that's what you're asking about.
[21:36] <paladinlaw> w30: wierd... well well
[21:36] <paladinlaw> w30: i will try to fix it. anyway thx for your help :D
[21:37] <erik1984> Hing: I mean outputting the history and then grep the keywoard you are looking for.
[21:37] <evil_andy> I'm having issues with multicast traffic.  It appears that the kernel is throwing away multicast traffic unless I explicitly set the promisc flag on the interface. I've already set all of the rp_filter sysctls to 0 and added the route to 224.0.0.0/4. This is driving me crazy
[21:37] <evil_andy> any help would be greatly appreciated
[21:37] <funkeyy> Hi evrbdy!! i just set up a new 550 GTX TI in my ubuntu 10.04 machine.. now everything works just fine BUT when i reboot, the resolution is always set back to an awkward eye-cancer-inducing clumsy-FTW-Resolution.. does anyone know how to fix that?
[21:38] <evil_andy> the system is ubuntu 10.10
[21:39] <w30> erik1984, cat $HOME/.bash_history
[21:40] <llutz> erik1984: ctrl-r
[21:42] <Dog_Matix> nessus: yes the 32bit version will work on a 64 bit processor
[21:44] <nadiyama> Hi all, while my speakers work fine as soon as I plug headphones it doesn't. It's not a headphone/sound card problem as it works in Windows. My sound card is HDA Intel PCH, and in alsamixer the headphone bar is at 100<>100, any hel please?
[21:46] <erik1984> w30 and llutz, thanks!
[21:47] <n-iCe> anyone can help me? I use INTEL HDA but my microphone is not working, any idea how to activate it I use a laptop and it is built in
[21:47] <techcrisis> sup all
[21:47] <Guest7544> I am trying to set up a webcam. i have video but the microphone has no sound. any ideas?
[21:48] <techcrisis> did you try changing it in the sounds menu?
[21:48] <techcrisis> it allows you to select an input
[21:48] <nadiyama> n-iCe: install alsamixer, run it, press f4 and put everything at 100
[21:49] <n-iCe> nadiyama: done, does not work
[21:50] <nadiyama> n-iCe: now go to the sound menu and check if it's selected or muted
[21:50] <erik1984> Anyone having trouble uploading stuff to UbuntuOne lately? It happened quite a few times that I dragged a file to the UbuntuOne folder and it kept syncing.
[21:51] <Dog_Matix> n-iCe: Does the mic work in other applications?
[21:51] <n-iCe> nadiyama: is not
[21:51] <n-iCe> Dog_Matix: does not work at all in any
[21:52] <andor> ubuntu isn't recognizing any usb devices plugged into my machine, lsusb hangs, cat /dev/bus/usb/002/002 does the same but all other ports seem okay, and all ports work fine under windows
[21:53] <Dog_Matix> n-iCe: How about in alternative operating systems?
[21:53] <n-iCe> nadiyama: indeed when I try to record I hear lot of noises but no voice, in windows working fine
[21:53] <Guest7544> I am trying to use skype and it says, "your system has pulseaudio running and i need to change it. does anyone know what that means
[21:53] <nadiyama> n-iCe: I think I've got the same card as you and it doesn't work for me also
[21:54] <nadiyama> n-iCe: do headphones work for you?
[21:54] <andor> Guest7544: did you get skype from the software center, or did you download it elsewhere?
[21:54] <Guest7544> andor: software center
[21:54] <n-iCe> nadiyama: I have not tried
[21:55] <Jordan_U> andor: I would file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug linux" then try a vanilla upstream kernel.
[21:55] <nadiyama> n-iCe: what model is your card?
[21:55] <Jordan_U> Guest166: What version of Ubuntu?
[21:56] <n-iCe> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[21:59] <mouse_> I have a imwheel question.  I've mapped page_up and page_down to a couple of extra mouse buttons but what I'm wondering is there a way to use these buttons in a window by hovering the cursor over it and without changing focus to it?
[22:03] <w30> mouse_, I think in your config somewhere you can change focus to hover, would that help? but that is for every thing mouse
[22:03] <_6502_> Hello, i'm trying to get my hp 1018 working with ubuntu 10.10/64bit. After connecting the printer the system tells me downloading a plugin from an hp server is required but after dowloading the plugin i get the error "plug-in file does not match its digital signature". What can I do?
[22:04] <_6502_> except moving to windows, i mean :-)
[22:04] <mouse_> w30, So that would make it so the window focus would change to whatever the cursor is hovering over?
[22:04] <w30> mouse_, yeah
[22:06] <mouse_> w30, That seems a little excessive but maybe it would be handy to know later.  Do you know the name of this?
[22:07] <w30> mouse_, it might be in compiz config  or system preferences mouse
[22:07] <mouse_> w30, Oh I think I know what you're talking about.
[22:10] <w30> mouse_, its not in system preferencs mouse; I just checked
[22:10] <newerthhero> hi all
[22:10] <newerthhero> nvidia-settings dont save screen resolutoin
[22:10] <Guest43503> hi
[22:10] <newerthhero> when i reboot the resolution changes back
[22:11] <w30> mouse_, look around in compiz config settings manager
[22:11] <Jordan_U> sjefen6: At the grub menu, can you press 'c' to get to the grub shell then run "echo $timeout; echo $recordfail"?
[22:12] <newerthhero> how do i change this?
[22:13] <Aqua23> hi
[22:13] <mouse_> w30, From my personal experiences I know that feature is most common in xfce and openbox.
[22:14] <Hing> hey guys
[22:14] <andor> haha, apparently ubuntu-bug runs into the same problem i'm already having with usb
[22:14] <andor> and can't get anywhere
[22:15] <Aqua23> Has anyone on here used Wine?
[22:15] <yeats> !anyone | Aqua23
[22:15] <Jordan_U> andor: Then file a bug report manually, and try the latest vanilla kernel.
[22:15] <Aqua23> ok
[22:16] <Aqua23> How come when I run Team Fortress 2 in wine and play it all the characters appear white??
[22:16] <Aqua23> I use Steam as my client
[22:16] <Aqua23> ...
[22:16] <sjefen6> Jordan_U: sorry, I dont have physical access to the tardware at the moment. Will try it tomorrow
[22:16] <Aqua23> and also  how come when I click the system info tab on Steam . Steam crashes?
[22:16] <Aqua23> What is the cause?
[22:16] <yeats> Aqua23: probably better to ask in #winehq
[22:17] <andor> Jordan_U: is there a repository i should get the kernel from, or should i install it manually?
[22:17] <Jordan_U> andor: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.1-rc4-oneiric/
[22:17] <andor> thanks
[22:17] <Jordan_U> andor: You're welcome.
[22:17] <Hing> I've been struggling with this for some time: I never use email clients, I always go and use the web browser to check my email, anyway, do you know, how to paste a html code into your mail? I know it's not what this room supports, but I don't know where to go.
[22:17] <newerthhero> i dont get sound in id tech 4 games
[22:18] <newerthhero> they dont use pulseaudio
[22:18] <newerthhero> how do i enable another sound library?
[22:18] <heylelshalem> ?
[22:18] <heylelshalem> ?
[22:19] <mamece2> i hav several problem, please help me, first: starting configure network device FAILED, seccond:mount all disconnected from plymouth, what do?
[22:20] <Jordan_U> sjefen6: My guess is that the next time you boot, if you don't pres any key, the grub menu will timeout.
[22:22] <biel> hola
[22:22] <mamece2> !spanish
[22:22] <andor> newerthhero: alsa is installed by default, and you can get the alsa-oss package to enable alsa to handle oss
[22:23] <newerthhero> can i only enable oss without alsa?
[22:25] <Hing> anyone? (html question)
[22:25] <newerthhero> hello?
[22:25] <andor> newerthhero: you could replace alsa with oss4, with the oss4-base package
[22:25] <newerthhero> andor: do i install that with synaptic?
[22:25] <andor> yes, or apt-get from the command line
[22:26] <mamece2> i hav several problem, please help me, first: starting configure network device FAILED, seccond:mount all disconnected from plymouth, what do?
[22:26] <ChogyDan> mamece2: how did you get into this mess?
[22:26] <urlin2u> !details | mamece2
[22:27] <mamece2> chogydan i installed ubuntu 11 and BT5 (ubuntu 10) then i erased wicd
[22:28] <mamece2> chogydan ubottu and then i erased some partition with free space. i cant get to ubuntu 11 GUI
[22:28] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[22:28] <Ycarene> So, when is Canonical going to drop pulseaudio from its future releases?
[22:28] <urlin2u> mamece2, and your trying to fix the b43 in backtrack correct?
[22:28] <matheus_> hello, anyone?
[22:28] <ChogyDan> Ycarene: I think pulse is the standard beyond Ubuntu now
[22:28] <Shwaiil> Q: I forgot to create some directories and since I'm programming, my script created for me. The thing is, I dont have permissions. How can I change it directly on the folder ? Thanks!
[22:28] <kon_> anyone familiar with slowness caused by high cpu iowait cycles?
[22:29] <Jordan_U> Ycarene: Not for the foreseeable future. If you'd like to rant about pulseaudio please do it elsewhere.
[22:29] <mamece2> ubottu chogydan urlin2u when i get to GUI mode (sometimes i can) i get this message about no hard drive space
[22:29] <Ycarene> ChogyDan - Oh
[22:29] <sherorox> has anyone had any luck ordering anything using hhgregg online checkout? ive been trying to order something for like 4 hours
[22:30] <bkerensa> Jordon_U: Its not very polite to address others that way
[22:30] <newerthhero> pulseaudio is crap
[22:30] <ChogyDan> Shwaiil: chmod is the command you are looking for, I believe.
[22:31] <mamece2> i tryed this to fix the mountall disconnected from plymouth , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1602767   with no positive result
[22:31] <ChogyDan> mamece2: did you check your harddisk space?
[22:31] <newerthhero> andor: after installing it, how do i start the game with that package?
[22:31] <Shwaiil> ChogyDan, tks for looking! I can used chmod in cli right ?
[22:31] <mamece2> chogydan the sda1 partition have 6 GB left but still i get the message about no hard drive space
[22:31] <urlin2u> bkerensa, I suspect this is not their only encounter.
[22:32] <sparc> I've been spoiled by Redhat...  what's the correct way to check and manipulate which services start on boot?
[22:32] <sparc> or on runlevel x
[22:32] <andor> newerthhero: here's a good guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[22:32] <ChogyDan> Shwaiil: yeah, you may want to google for some tutorials or examples to learn how to use it.  If you still need help, post here with the specifics of what changes you want to make
[22:32] <bkerensa> urlin2u: Perhaps but I did not see any recent comments today so it was a bit uncalled for
[22:32] <Shwaiil> ChogyDan, I use chmod in ftp, tryed right now trough > chmod 777 folderName
[22:33] <ChogyDan> Shwaiil: that should do it :)
[22:33] <Shwaiil> ChogyDan, it didnt.. the folders in ubuntu have a symbol locked
[22:33] <ChogyDan> sparc: Ubuntu uses upstart right now,
[22:33] <ni1s> Shwaiil, try chmod u+rwX /path/to/dir
[22:33] <mamece2> chogydan i cant merge ext4 partition to the sda1 partition, how can i make that partition bigger? why i have the no harddrive message if i got 6 GB left?
[22:33] <Shwaiil> nils tks i'll try :)
[22:34] <rubbitydibdab> If I replace the regular linux hernel with nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-686, will it automatically use OpenGL
[22:34] <Shwaiil> nils didnt worked the folder is kept locked. the symbol
[22:34] <rubbitydibdab> I can't ask in #debian cuz I'm +qed there
[22:34] <ChogyDan> mamece2: you need space on the partition where you have it installed
[22:34] <rubbitydibdab> maia ho maia ha ha
[22:35] <rubbitydibdab> ma-i-a he!  ma-i-a ha ma-i-a ho ma-i-a ha ha
[22:35] <urlin2u> bkerensa, this is abusy channel and there are regulars who come here for help in various forms that are not within even close to the topic, even after being told this many times. Not any of is perfect, so calling out a Ubuntu is not much better to be honest.member
[22:35] <ni1s> Shwaiil, then I would assume its owned by another user, try chmod a+rwX /foo
[22:35] <xsinick> Hey has the new unity ubuntu been getting updates
[22:35] <mamece2> chogy i have 6 GB left. how can i make more space in the clean up harddrive wizard?
[22:35] <xsinick> is ti getting better
[22:35] <xsinick> ?
[22:35] <xsinick> those any one know?
[22:35] <urlin2u> ubuntu member*
[22:35] <ChogyDan> xsinick: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:35] <Element9> anyone know how can I get libstdc++.so.6.0.15?
[22:36] <ChogyDan> mamece2: Im sorry, Im getting confused,  where is your ubuntu installed?
[22:36] <silverarrow> Does anyone know how to download videos from livestream.com?
[22:36] <Shwaiil> nils nopppp didnt worked :) maybe I should do it from php, thats how I created the folder ?!
[22:36] <sparc> Hey, do you all think update-rc.d, is the right program to use, to manipulate which services start at which runlevels?
[22:36] <Shwaiil> but I wish I could do it directly in the cli :P
[22:36] <syme> sparc its more complicated than a lot of people want
[22:36] <syme> but thats what it does
[22:37] <ChogyDan> sparc: what are you trying to do?  You may want to use upstart
[22:37] <xsinick> ChogyDan: why not here?
[22:37] <silverarrow> does anyone downloads videostreams in Ubuntu?
[22:37] <mamece2> chogydan my ubuntu 11 is installed in partition sda1, sometimes i can get to GUI repair mode, but i only have this wizard to see how is my space distributed in the partition
[22:37] <bkerensa> urlin2u: Code of Conduct applies channel and being rude to others is not appropriate... It was simply a kind reminder
[22:38] <urlin2u> bkerensa, k
[22:38] <ni1s> Shwaiil, thats odd, getfacl /foo might give you some clues
[22:38] <sparc> ChogyDan: I want check check what's running at runlevels 3, 4, and 5, and turn some of them off.  I also want to get my company's packages, to start on 3-5 using either upstart or SysV
[22:38] <ChogyDan> xsinick: because all improvements go into the next release,
[22:38] <Shwaiil> nils i'll try :D tks (i'm sorry about so much questions, I come from win :P )
[22:38] <xsinick> ChogyDan: I see, thank you
[22:38] <memand> hi guys, does someone here have the skills to help me install grub and a kernel thru the shell?
[22:38] <xangua> !grub | memand
[22:39] <ni1s> Shwaiil, no worries
[22:39] <ChogyDan> !upstart | sparc you probably need to at least look at this
[22:39] <syme> i vouch highly for the supergrub2 disk, freeware
[22:39] <sparc> ChogyDan: thank you :)
[22:39] <Shwaiil> nils this told me who the owner is.
[22:39] <syme> saved a lot of installs
[22:39] <seag33k> Anyone setup a server to stream a webcam? I am looking to use a webcam to monitor our front door which is downstairs.
[22:39] <mamece2> chogydan what if i remove the xorg.conf ? to get rid of the "mount all disconnected from plymouth" problem?
[22:39] <Shwaiil> nils the thing is the username is the same as my login :T
[22:40] <urlin2u> !tab | syme
[22:40] <syme> yah
[22:40] <ni1s> Shwaiil, what happens when ls -l /foo/*
[22:40] <Shwaiil> nils i'll try :)
[22:40] <ChogyDan> mamece2: what partition did you install Ubuntu to?
[22:41] <mamece2> ChogyDan: sda1
[22:41] <memand> xangua, I am in rescue mode and need to chose weather to execute the shell in /dev/sda3 or in the installer environment?
[22:41] <Shwaiil> nils, I can see all the files on that folder
[22:41] <ChogyDan> mamece2: do you know how big sda1 is?
[22:41] <Shwaiil> -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data  6625 2011-09-12 23:15 167f0cffb5794450c498ad8202e2779f8dfaea90.cache
[22:41] <Shwaiil> like this
[22:41] <Jordan_U> memand: What problem are you trying to solve?
[22:42] <silverarrow> who uses youtube-dl in terminal , or download addons in firefox?
[22:42] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  yes, 126 GB , 6GB free
[22:42] <ni1s> Shwaiil, well it looks fine now
[22:42] <memand> xangua, BTW I am writing from my Android so sorry for looong response time
[22:42] <andybrine> does anyone know any software on ubuntu that wil convert audio to text
[22:42] <rasusto> i have a download addon for chrome
[22:43] <andybrine> like text to speach but the other way round
[22:43] <syme> also known as voice recognition
[22:43] <silverarrow> rasusto, can you download this video? http://www.livestream.com/private/rebeccamessenger/video?clipId=pla_86fd63cc-151b-43d0-bbdf-f18ff7405e56&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb
[22:43] <Shwaiil> nils, oh yeah, this was the ones I created, I forgot to try over the actuall fodlers the script created <-- duh :X I'll try the commands u gave me sorry about this lol
[22:43] <silverarrow> oh, really long link
[22:44] <Shwaiil> chmod: changing permissions of `espana/menu_lib/': Operation not permitted
[22:44] <Shwaiil> chmod a+rwX folder
[22:44] <silverarrow> rasusto, you might have to use password azna
[22:44] <heylelshalem> hey anybody know about sound mixers?
[22:44] <heylelshalem> im totally stumped
[22:44] <silverarrow> heylelshalem: alsamixer?
[22:44] <Shwaiil> ahh placing the sudo before chmod maked it work
[22:45] <ChogyDan> mamece2: so you have 6GB left on that partition, you installed only to that. and how did this problem start?
[22:45] <heylelshalem> yeah well i installed a external soundcard
[22:45] <heylelshalem> and im running music software in wine
[22:45] <memand> Jordan_u, I where trying to install the newest dev kernel because I have very new laptop and I where hoping for better hardware support, but it could not load the kernel or grub
[22:45] <ni1s> Shwaiil, add the -R argument to chmod to make the changes recursive
[22:45] <memand> so now I'm fed
[22:45] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  because i erased the swap partition and the free space partition
[22:45] <funkeyy> HI everybody! my new graphic adapter works jsut find (550 GTX TI).. but after every login it forces some wired standard-resolution to be set.. how can i permanently define 1920x1080 as set Resolution? (The button in NVIDIA Settings saying "Savee to X Configuration File" does not work)
[22:45] <Shwaiil> nils thanks a lot for your help!!
[22:45] <Shwaiil> ;D
[22:45] <heylelshalem> my music player and video player works but i get no sound from my music software
[22:45] <ni1s> Shwaiil, you probably wernt the owner of that dir
[22:45] <Jordan_U> memand: What could not load the kernel or grub? What happens when you try to boot Ubuntu?
[22:46] <heylelshalem> it looks like it is muted but i cant figure out how to unmute it
[22:46] <Shwaiil> nils nop! I created trough my php script
[22:46] <rasusto> @silverarrow that isnt a youtube video
[22:46] <memand> Jordan_u, the installer
[22:46] <heylelshalem> anyone?
[22:47] <newerthhero> i installed oss4
[22:47] <szal> !sound | heylelshalem
[22:47] <newerthhero> but no sound
[22:47] <ChogyDan> mamece2: yeah, Im unsure.  I may be able to reinstall over top your ubuntu install, and keep all your files.  Maybe you need to edit fstab so it points to the correct partitions or something
[22:47] <silverarrow> rasusto, no it's not, but it's suppose to be down loadable,  I'm not shore how
[22:48] <ChogyDan> memand: 3.0 kernel?  I don't think it is a good idea to install that kernel on earlier Ubuntu releases
[22:48] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  how can i reinstall and keep my files? i didnt see that option when i started with LIVE USB
[22:48] <memand> Jordan_u it says grub>rescue no such file found. or something along those lines... aka it does not load grub
[22:48] <syme> along the lines of youtube-dl , anyone know if theres a program similar to that that can record from silverlight or moonlight?
[22:48] <szal> mamece2: depends on your partitioning
[22:49] <Jordan_U> memand: That likely has nothing to do with installing a newer kernel. Do you have more than one hard drive?
[22:49] <heylelshalem> hmmm
[22:49] <ChogyDan> mamece2: is there any way that you could backup your files?
[22:49] <silverarrow> syme, maybe some of the firefox addons, or gnome-player extentions, I am searching for much the same
[22:49] <mamece2> szal chogydan i have one for ubuntu 10 and one for ubuntu 11 and their swap partition
[22:49] <syme> i used to be able to do it in an older firefox
[22:49] <memand> Jordan_u no but more than one partition
[22:49] <syme> but the newer firefox has severely cramped the operation and , even , compatibility of silverlight at least for 64 bit
[22:49] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  yes i have a external HD, what the folder that i need to keep? the one with my user name? thats all?
[22:50] <szal> mamece2: iow, you don't have a separate /home partition?  if so, there's no way you keep your files w/o a backup
[22:50] <Jordan_U> memand: Have you changed partitioning or tried to do anything with grub (other than just installing a new kernel package) recently?
[22:51] <ChogyDan> mamece2: sure, I mean, you have some 100GB+ files, whatever those files are, back them up.  Maybe just the whole drive.    THEN, I would try just reinstalling over top.  It should keep all your files intact; the back is just in case
[22:51] <heylelshalem> damn im screwed lol
[22:51] <mamece2> szal i dont have a separate /home partition, i would like to have one from now and on.. :(
[22:52] <mamece2> ChogyDan: so i should choose install and pick the sda1 partition (the one wheres installed right now)?
[22:52] <ChogyDan> mamece2: folks from Canonical said you don't need separate /homes anymore, just make the backup just in case
[22:52] <memand> Jordan_u, no... but anywho I am now in rescue mode from the cd and I have the choose between launching a shell I either /dev/sda3 or in the installer environment, can we work with this?
[22:52] <cassie> Can anyone give me a suggestion for using grooveshark in ubuntu?
[22:53] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  i will try to empty the trash can from CLI , and then try rescue mode GUI, what do u think?
[22:53] <syme> just launch in the installer environment memand
[22:53] <ChogyDan> mamece2: sure
[22:53] <memand> syme ok
[22:53] <syme> only need to launch on the hard drive in specific cases
[22:54] <ChogyDan> mamece2: regarding the install, I *think* you need to do manual partitioning, and select the partition there.  You will get a warning that critical folders will be deleted; that is a good sign
[22:54] <Jordan_U> memand: Choose to launch a shell in /dev/sda3.
[22:54] <memand> syme, ok I have shell where do I go from here?
[22:54] <syme> idk ive never installed from a command line <8 i just use automated grubdisk to fix grub problems
[22:55] <memand> Jordan_u I launched it in the installer now :/
[22:55] <syme> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[22:55] <Jordan_U> memand: Can you connect to the internet from within this shell?
[22:55] <BUS73D> Lo
[22:56] <memand> jordan_u I should be able to
[22:56] <pr0xy> How can I connect to a wifi network?
[22:56] <BUS73D> if i run wireshark with "sudo wireshark" do i become vulnerable?
[22:57] <urlin2u> !details | pr0xy
[22:57] <prakas> BUS73D: no
[22:57] <Jordan_U> memand: Do you have a LiveCD? It will make life easier if you do as I'd like you to download a script and pastebin its output.
[22:57] <ChogyDan> BUS73D: 2 things, use gksu for graphical programs, and second, I can't get wireshark to work without gksu anyway, so I hope not
[22:57] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | BUS73D
[22:57] <BUS73D> prakas : thx i thought yes cause wireshark pops up a warning message about running it as root
[22:58] <memand> I can't get any of my live cd's to work on this machine... it's quite weird
[22:58] <pr0xy> My friend has a problem on 11.04 connecting to a WiFi network using a usb wifi antenna.
[22:58] <BUS73D> ubottu: thx!
[22:58] <memand> Jordan_u I can't get any of my live cd's to work on this machine... it's quite weird
[22:59] <marriedman624> Can someone help a noob with moving HOME from root partition to and empty partition?
[23:00] <andybrine> sorry just got back
[23:00] <bastidrazor> !seperatehome > marriedman624
[23:00] <ChogyDan> marriedman624: what guide are you following?
[23:00] <urlin2u> pr0xy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported  these might help.
[23:00] <Lorenzo> Could someone help me set up a hotmail account using Evolution
[23:01] <bastidrazor> marriedman624: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[23:01] <andybrine> dos anyone know any software to convert speech to text?
[23:01] <memand> Jordan_u, I can take a picture of the screen with my phone and send it ...
[23:01] <marriedman624> ChogyDan: I have looked at a few guides but haven't gotten of them to work
[23:01] <marriedman624> bastidrazor: Thanks, I'll check it out
[23:01] <Scunizi> I'm considering doing the "upgrade path" from 10.10 to 11.04.  I typically don't have much success with that but wondered how 11.04 is with a dual monitor setup both after the upgrade and during?
[23:02] <lion42> andybrine, there's none that really work on linux yet. There's none that really work well on anything, but the situation especially sucks on linux. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[23:02] <Lorenzo> Could some one help me set up Evolution using hotmail?
[23:02] <andybrine> lion42 damn thats a shame!! Thanks for the link though
[23:02] <bastidrazor> Lorenzo: do you have a paid hotmail account?
[23:02] <andybrine> :)
[23:03] <Scunizi> Lorenzo, unless you're paying for their service I don't think you can..
[23:03] <syme> Scunizi , i prefer the "classic desktop" 11.04's new setup imho hasnt been optimized yet
[23:03] <syme> for dual monitors
[23:03] <syme> jmho though
[23:03] <Scunizi> syme, how 'bout with kubuntu? any idea?
[23:03] <BUS73D> ubottu: your bot is funny
[23:04] <bastidrazor> Lorenzo: please keep the conversation in channel. you can not use hotmail with evolution if you don't pay for hotmail. they block forwarding
[23:04] <Lorenzo> okay thank you.
[23:04] <syme> Scunizi kde has some cool features but there are also tradeoffs.  i like ubuntu classic gnome desktop the most but kde is generally able to be configured more powerfully , easier
[23:04] <urlin2u> andybrine, here is a link with a little web search, http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/55794.aspx
[23:04] <bastidrazor> Lorenzo: gmail works great with evolution!
[23:05] <Lorenzo> okay, I'll see if i can get the person to convert
[23:05] <andybrine> urlin2u, thanks
[23:05] <Scunizi> syme, I use both (or 3) classic gnome on desktop and kde.. lappy is unity.. I guess my real question is will the upgrade hang in the middle with dual monitors?
[23:05] <bastidrazor> !gmail > Lorenzo ::if you get them to convert
[23:06] <Lorenzo> thank you.
[23:06] <bastidrazor> Lorenzo: you're welcome
[23:07] <syme> Scunizi from the default configuration and with only minor effort and tweaks, i did not find the unity desktop to be taking the most advantage of 2 monitors
[23:07] <memand> (memand) Jordan_u, I can take a picture of the screen with my phone and send it ...
[23:07] <syme> It seems like a thing where, they're kind of demo'ing it now, and it will be a lot more refined later on
[23:07] <Jordan_U> memand: Never mind about boot info script for now then. Run "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys && sudo chroot /mnt"
[23:08] <Jordan_U> memand: Tell me when you're done with that.
[23:08] <memand> Jordan_u, all as one line?
[23:08] <Jordan_U> memand: Yes.
[23:08] <syme> i quit ubuntu after being a steadfast follower, and switched to kde cause unity desktop i dont think is refined enough yet really
[23:08] <memand> brb
[23:09] <rasusto> unity works for me
[23:09] <syme> unity seems promising as hell
[23:09] <rasusto> 11.10 is gonna be awesome
[23:10] <lion42> ...
[23:10] <lion42> Someone let the fanboys out.
[23:10] <lion42> :(
[23:10] <andybrine> aparently festival does speech to text??
[23:10] <andybrine> I thought it was the other way round
[23:10] <urlin2u> lion42, hehe
[23:10] <kion> Is there a way to have Realplayer on Ubuntu 64 bits?
[23:11] <andybrine> yeah you can doenload it and just install it
[23:11] <andybrine> just go to the realplayer website, it will have an installer
[23:11] <Dog_Matix> rasuto: It is awesome.
[23:13] <Scunizi> When changing the Power management settings, do they take effect immediately or only after a logout and login?
[23:13] <urlin2u> Scunizi, imm
[23:13] <Scunizi> urlin2u, good.. thanks
[23:14] <memand> Jordan_u, says "/bin/sh: sudo: not found"
[23:15] <Jordan_U> memand: Remove sudo from all of the commands (you can press the up arrow so that you don't need to type it all again).
[23:15] <memand> kk
[23:16] <kion> andybrine: they apparently just have a .deb file that only works for 386 architecture...
[23:17] <andybrine> kion, you can install that one and it should work fine
[23:17] <memand> Jordan_u ok done :)
[23:17] <andybrine> i used to use it on a 64bit install
[23:18] <Jordan_U> memand: Now run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" It will ask you some questions, for the first two questions about kernel parameters simply leave them at their defaults and continue on by pressing enter. Stop when you get to the question about install devices and upload a picture of what you see.
[23:18] <memand> ok
[23:18] <kion> andybrine:  I try to open that but ubuntu software center will disable the install button and tell me that the architecture is not compatible...
[23:19] <memand> Jordan_
[23:19] <andybrine> kion, you will have to install from terminal amnd force architecture
[23:19] <andybrine> and*
[23:20] <memand> Jordan_u it just says "strxfrm() gets absurd."
[23:20] <kion>  andybrine: i found a place that states to use this: wget http://www.real.com/realcom/R?href=http://forms.real.com/real/player/download.html?f=unix/RealPlayer11GOLD.bin
[23:20] <kion> andybrine: but as I do not see any .bin on the realplayer page, I don't really trust it.
[23:20] <andybrine> kion, yeah that should work also
[23:21] <Jordan_U> memand: Are you able to / do you mind burning another CD?
[23:21] <andybrine> kion that install is fine
[23:21] <andybrine> I have used the same link many times
[23:21] <andybrine> it is a trusted link
[23:21] <kion> andybrine: ok should i just chmod +x it and then run?
[23:21] <memand> actually I just used my last one :/
[23:22] <Jordan_U> memand: OK. Are you back at a prompt?
[23:23] <cassie_> Could someone help me with using hotmail with evolution?
[23:23] <memand> yeah 2 minutes I just have to change room, my mate is going to bed
[23:23] <zebastianortis> hello there, I have (L)ubuntu on my laptop on dual boot with windows 7, I am having to reinstall windows 7 due to a virus, i have already backed up, I am thinking of upgrading to (L)ubuntu 11.04 my question is the following, can I leave ubuntu untouched and install the new version of windows where the version of windows i am deleting is currently on(partitionwise) and otherwise what is more convenient, installing ubuntu first or windows first th
[23:23] <zebastianortis> ank you -YT: Sebastian Ortiz, first principles
[23:24] <Jordan_U> memand: Run "grub-install /dev/sda"
[23:25] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, you have a install disc for W7?
[23:25] <cassie_> Could someone help me with using hotmail with evolution?
[23:25] <andybrine> kion you fwill have to run force architecture on the insall
[23:25] <MonkeyDust> zebastianortis: windoze will overwrite GRUB, you will have to repair it
[23:25] <OerHeks> cassie_, hotmail does not work with evolution, ... unless you pay for it, forwarding
[23:25] <lion42> zebastianortis, if you have a backup of your ubuntu partition, I'd just go ahead and install windows over everything and then use the default 11.04 installer to repartition later. That'd be the fastest method if you don't have a lot of files, or if you have a recovery disc and not an install disc especially.
[23:25] <zebastianortis> urlin2u,  yes i do
[23:25] <bastidrazor> cassie_: didn't you just ask that earlier with a different nick?
[23:25] <skegeek> How do we get the close/minimize/maximize buttons back to the right corner of the window?
[23:25] <OerHeks> cassie_, you have asked this before
[23:25] <Jordan_U> !controls | skegeek
[23:25] <xangua> OerHeks: cassie_ hotmail via pop3 works
[23:25] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, no problem have it write to that ntfs and as suggested grub will need to be reloaded in the mbr.
[23:26] <tatrasiel> right click and ckick settings then customize to chang eit
[23:26] <zebastianortis> lion42, so basically install windows, then install and leave no unused space then install ubuntu and repartition part of the windows partition?
[23:26] <andybrine> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[23:26] <tatrasiel> right click and ckick settings then customize to change it
[23:26] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, the disc is not the OEM right?
[23:26] <Smoo> is it cause of windows partition being at end of drive ?
[23:26] <cassie_> but it's linux, can't you do anything w/linux?
[23:26] <Smoo> *table
[23:26] <zebastianortis> OEM?
[23:26] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, oem?
[23:26] <lion42> zebastianortis, that's what i'd do IF I had a "recovery disc". But I can't tell you what to do if you have vanilla windows, as I don't know if it has tools to specify a partition.
[23:27] <pr0xy> is it possible to use a linksys WUSB11 for wifi in 11.04?
[23:27] <memand> Jordan_u ok I'm back, what was the question?
[23:27] <lion42> zebastianortis, did you get your windows cd from a windows box, or from your computer manufacturer?
[23:27] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, OEM is what you get from a distibuter like Dell lets say it will write the who;e HD.
[23:27] <Scunizi> Is there a "show desktop" shortcut in Unity?
[23:27] <Jordan_U> memand: Are you at a prompt again?
[23:27] <zebastianortis> lion42, windows cd, ultimate 7
[23:27] <zebastianortis> not that i am name dropping stephan kinsella or anything
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> zebastianortis: OEM allows you to do a basic install, without personal data, the user then can continue the install whenever he wants
[23:28] <zebastianortis> I have a cd that says windows 7 ultimate!
[23:28] <zebastianortis> comes in a black box
[23:28] <djskidd> Hi
[23:29] <djskidd> I need more help
[23:29] <djskidd> I am installing Ubuntu 10.10 on my mom's computer
[23:29] <djskidd> but she also wants to keep Windows XP
[23:29] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Why not 11.04?
[23:29] <Brutus-> djskidd, Hi, more than what? :D
[23:29] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, your good that is a install disc you can overwrite the NTFS or partion how you want with it.
[23:29] <xangua> !dualboot | djskidd
[23:29] <cassie_> Could someone help me with using hotmail with evolution?
[23:29] <xaphir> Hey does ubuntu support runlevels?  can I do 'telinit 3'?
[23:30] <memand> Jordan_u well before I did the long command it said "~ #" now I am just "#"
[23:30] <djskidd> Jordan_U: Cause I hate hate hate Unity
[23:30] <rumpe1> xaphir, yes, but i usually use "init 3"
[23:30] <Jordan_U> !classic | djskidd
[23:30] <Smoo> xaphir, yes
[23:30] <zebastianortis> lion42, i have both my windows and linux files back up, i have a disc for windows and an image disc for ubuntu, so install windows, use whole disc and then install ubuntu and repartition with ubuntus partition manager?
[23:30] <Jordan_U> memand: Good. Try running "grub-install /dev/sda".
[23:30] <djskidd> Lovely. Anyway, I'll update it later
[23:30] <brainspoil> cassie_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[23:30] <Smoo> , telinit is the safer way
[23:31] <memand> ok
[23:31] <cassie_> I tried that and it didn't work
[23:31] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, you can use that windows disc to make any partition size you want.
[23:31] <djskidd> So. I want to install this to MY partition (there are 2 HDDs, 1 for windows, one my mom and I split)
[23:31] <Jordan_U> !runlevel | xaphir Smoo
[23:31] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, so i just leave some empty space for when i install ubuntu right?
[23:32] <memand> Jordan_u sda3 right
[23:32] <djskidd> My mom has a larger partition, so I know which one I want to install to.
[23:32] <Jordan_U> memand: No. sda.
[23:32] <djskidd> But I want to make sure I'm not about to screw it up
[23:32] <zebastianortis> ok, so now, there's a program to mount the windows partition from linux and vice versa can someone link me to it
[23:32] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, yep just go slow I forget the exact hoe to but any windows install disc allows a build of partitions.
[23:32] <brainspoil> cassie_: yeah I'm sure Microsoft keeps changing things around with upgrades, sorry
[23:32] <urlin2u> how*
[23:32] <memand> ok
[23:33] <cassie_> I said that "Reading package lists... Done
[23:33] <cassie_> Building dependency tree
[23:33] <cassie_> Reading state information... Done
[23:33] <cassie_> E: Unable to locate package hotway
[23:33] <cassie_> E: Unable to locate package hotsmtp
[23:33] <cassie_> "
[23:33] <FloodBot1> cassie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:33] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | cassie_
[23:33] <memand> Jordan_u grub-install not found
[23:33] <f2knight> zebastianortis, what are you looking for exactly?
[23:33] <djskidd> I am in the "Change" dialog of the Install window looking at my partition
[23:33] <cassie_> okay thank you
[23:34] <djskidd> What mount point do I use, and what Use as: do I choose?
[23:34] <zebastianortis> f2knight, I am looking for freedom(ainradio.com) specifically the freedom to read and write files on the windows partition logged from linux and to read and write files from the linux partition on windows
[23:34] <memand> djskid /
[23:34] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, you use the custom advanced to make custom partion sizes and or overwrite the ones you may have.
[23:34] <djskidd> memand: ya?
[23:35] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, http://www.techtalkz.com/windows-7/514412-windows-7-installation-guide-tutorial.html
[23:35] <memand> djskid. for the system partition right?
[23:35] <xaphir> ubottu: an ubu user is telling me that the gui went down with 'telinit 3' so that would mean that runlevel 3 and 5 are not equal.
[23:36] <djskidd> No, I'm looking at my own partition, I don't want to screw up Windows
[23:36] <skegeek> Also, whatever happened to running apps showing on the bottom panel?
[23:36] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, I understand that, but now that I am about to do it, I wanted to ask, how can i access the linux partition with read and write privileges from windows and vice versa
[23:36] <zebastianortis> this is a feature that i got on here once but i forgot how to do it
[23:37] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, easier from ubuntu to windows, the reverse is usually done with a shared NTFS, really the safest way probably.
[23:37] <Aqua23> join /winehq
[23:37] <zebastianortis> i think there is a program that helps one access ext# partitions from windows
[23:37] <zebastianortis> i.e. "mount them" if you know what i mean
[23:38] <djskidd> Alright, just to know: can Ubuntu boot from NTFS?
[23:38] <djskidd> If not, what EXT do I use?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> djskidd: No.
[23:38] <cassie_> how do you get root privileges in a terminal?
[23:38] <djskidd> Ext2? 3? 4?
[23:38] <yeats> djskidd: current default is ext4
[23:38] <Jordan_U> !sudo | cassie_
[23:38] <xaphir> Jordan_U: some of that bot's advice needs to be revised
[23:38] <tatrasiel> sudo -s
[23:38] <djskidd> I love Sudo...
[23:38] <memand> djskid well Windows should be on the partition that is ntfs format and it also has a small 100mb partition don't touch those rwo
[23:38] <yeats> djskidd: ext3 is a safe option too
[23:38] <cassie_> okay thank you!
[23:38] <memand> *two
[23:38] <djskidd> Will pick Ext3
[23:39] <djskidd> What mount point
[23:39] <Jordan_U> xaphir: If you'd like to suggest specific changes you can do so in #ubuntu-ops.
[23:39] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, there is ext2 and ext3 quite outdated, and really you have to be careful with rewriting windows, depends on your intentions really.
[23:39] <xaphir> Jordan_U: I think when I responded to the bot it got forwarded
[23:39] <djskidd> I want to have this partition, and only THIS partition, to have Ubuntu
[23:39] <xaphir> at least that was the info
[23:39] <zebastianortis> what is ubuntu 11.04 on?
[23:39] <Jordan_U> xaphir: It did.
[23:39] <yeats> djskidd: then the mount point would be /
[23:40] <memand> djskid no you should use ext2 for system partition and / as mount point
[23:40] <zebastianortis> i have so far been able to access my files regardless of what i am logging on
[23:40] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, ext4 but yo can partition it to any other that works.
[23:40] <urlin2u> you
[23:40] <Jordan_U> memand: djskidd: I would not recommend ext2 for the root filesystem. Journaling is a good thing.
[23:40] <djskidd> Okay, 80GB, Ext3, Mount Point /, and format:yes. Will this f*** up my Windows installation?
[23:41] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, how do you mean partition it to any other that works? i am not sure i understand, linux can't run on a ntsf or fat as far as i know, and i feel like going from one ext to another would be something beyond my level
[23:41] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, what is it you want to reaf=d and write both ways?
[23:41] <djskidd> Windows is on a seperate HDD, I'm more worried about my mom's work
[23:41] <Jordan_U> memand: Do you get any error from "chroot /mnt/"?
[23:41] <yeats> djskidd: have you done data backups?
[23:41] <yeats> djskidd: that is always the first step of any installation
[23:41] <zebastianortis> anything, from .txt to just be able to open pdfs and media files while being able to copy, paste, delete
[23:41] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Important files should be backed up no matter what you're doing.
[23:42] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, just use a shared ntfs ubuntu will read and write and so will windows.
[23:42] <yeats> djskidd: both linux and Windows can be easily replicated - files cannot ;-)
[23:43] <memand> Jordan_u it fails to run /bin/sh no such file or dir
[23:43] <djskidd> K, I'm backed up. Just to save time, can I set the installer to only screw with the F: partition (where I want to install to)?
[23:43] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, a shred is a ntfs that is just a partition with no OS both OS will see it.
[23:43] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, what is a shared ntfs? and how do i do that, i mean i remember once on ehre someone told me to use some program on windows IFS or something like that
[23:43] <urlin2u> shared
[23:43] <Jordan_U> memand: OK. Do you get an error from "sudo test"?
[23:44] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, you just have an extra ntfs that has no OS but your stuff that you want to access from both Ubuntu will ee it and so will windows.
[23:44] <memand> Jordan_u no it gives no output
[23:44] <urlin2u> see*
[23:45] <djskidd> Alright, told it to install Ubuntu and the bootloader to sdb5. Let's hope nothing gets F'ed up.
[23:45] <memand> djskid: you should be fine
[23:45] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, hmmm, does that take extra space? like i am installing windows then i ask it to have an extra ntsf partition and there i put 80% of my storage space? as far as i understand i have currently just the windows partition which mounts on ubuntu by clickcin on it on the file manager and viceversa
[23:45] <ShadesEdge> Hello, when I try to mount my drive like that: mount -t ext4 /mnt/extract/root/root-image.fs /mnt/archlinux with the Ubuntu Live-CD (?), it says: mount: /mnt/extract/root/root-image.fs is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[23:45] <ShadesEdge> Any ideas?
[23:45] <abtexas> anyone here ?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> memand: OK. Try "apt-get install grub-pc".
[23:46] <Jordan_U> ShadesEdge: Try adding '-o loop'.
[23:46] <djskidd> Here goes
[23:46] <djskidd> uwaa!
[23:46] <memand> Jordan_u segmentation fault
[23:46] <ShadesEdge> It isn't a correct command, doesn't exits
[23:47] <Jordan_U> djskidd: You should install grub's boot sector to the mbr, not to a partition.
[23:47] <ShadesEdge> Removed the ext4 part
[23:47] <Jordan_U> memand: That's a bad sign.
[23:47] <zebastianortis> there must be a way to do this as that's the way i am doing it currently
[23:47] <zebastianortis> i just need to know how to do it again
[23:47] <memand> Jordan_u lol, I guessed that much
[23:48] <vacho> what is a good way of transfering files from a FTP to another bypassing my own computer?
[23:48] <Fabs> try the ftp command vacho
[23:48] <vacho> using terminal ? :)
[23:48] <vacho> I am not that comfy in terminal, rather use a UI?
[23:48] <Fabs> is it a text file or binary?
[23:48] <vacho> it's a bunch of files and images
[23:49] <memand> Jordan_u oh wait, can it be because launched the shell in the install environment and not in sda3?
[23:49] <djskidd> Awesome, here it goes!
[23:49] <Jordan_U> memand: No, because I had you use chroot.
[23:49] <memand> ok
[23:49] <Fabs> hmm vacho, what is the scenario?
[23:49] <djskidd> Now I will add my mom as a user after
[23:50] <vacho> bunch of files I want to move from a server to another
[23:50] <bastidrazor> djskidd: sudo adduser mom
[23:50] <vacho> ftp is good since it will set the right user permissions etc and file owner
[23:50] <djskidd> k
[23:50] <Fabs> if you can ssh into the destination computer
[23:50] <Fabs> then you can tunnel X server
[23:50] <zykotick9_> vacho, ftp is nerver "good" ;)  FTP should die.
[23:50] <Fabs> so you can use a GUI program on it
[23:51] <djskidd> bastidrazor: Actually I think I will do sudo adduser Terisa
[23:51] <memand> Jordan_u shouldn't it be chroot air-get then?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> memand: "grub-install" is a command that you should definitely have, and apt-get / dpkg segfaulting is very bad. This situation was caused by a lot more than trying to install a new kernel and will likely require a re-install.
[23:51] <memand> *apt
[23:51] <Jordan_U> memand: No.
[23:51] <zebastianortis> in any casey, I thank you all for your help, now I go into reinstalling OSystems thanks for watching, and till the next one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpLNOvbaR18
[23:51] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, to be honest I think you need to ask around more about using a from windows to read ubuntu, it is possible yes but most don't do that, the apps to do this are not being kept up to date, most just have a extra partition a NTFS do this in so your no read writing in a actual OS to keep things safe.
[23:51] <vacho> zykotick9_, you are crazy, ftp rules the world.
[23:52] <urlin2u> not*
[23:52] <Fabs> vacho, if you wish to use a gui client on your destination machine
[23:52] <Fabs> look up tunnelling X over SSH
[23:52] <memand> Jordan_u is it possible to reinstall from the shell?
[23:52] <Fabs> and you can use it
[23:52] <djskidd> I need an FTP for my house
[23:52] <Fabs> if your current machine is windoes you can do it with PuTTY and xming
[23:52] <vacho> im on ubuntu sucka..
[23:52] <zebastianortis> alright, so basically use the bare minimum requirements for windows and ubuntu to run and the ntsf is the "storage" partition, will this take extra space, i.e. as compared to what i currently have there will be less storage? urlin2u
[23:52] <vacho> why would I be asking in #ubuntu if I am on a win machiner
[23:52] <Jordan_U> memand: The fact that you don't know what caused the problem is even more concerning. I don't see how this type of problem could be caused by hardware problems (like a failing hard drive) but it's worth checking if you have no other idea what could have caused this.
[23:53] <Fabs> type ssh -X username@destination
[23:53] <Fabs> then in the shell when you l og in you can type for example
[23:53] <Fabs> graphicalftpclient &
[23:53] <vacho> djskidd, Im buying my girlfriend an FTP for her car as a birthday gift
[23:53] <Fabs> and it will appear on your screen
[23:53] <vacho> are you sure?
[23:53] <Fabs> pretty sure
[23:53] <memand> Jordan_u its a brand new laptop so everything should be a ok
[23:53] <Fabs> depends if you have graphicalftpclient installed on your remote machine mwahaha
[23:54] <Fabs> replace it with the name of a real program
[23:54] <vacho> fabs: remember I am on ubuntu.
[23:54] <vacho> Fags: thanks for the help
[23:54] <Fabs> vacho: Good luck
[23:54] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, this is a problem here you don't have some basic understanding of file systems=partitions and this is making it a long drawn out conversation that is not needed to be honest.
[23:54] <musl> Is it possible to create a package from a only a system with the package installed? (like freebsd's pkg_create)
[23:54] <Jordan_U> musl: No.
[23:55] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, I understand, I will do further research and if i need further help return, thank you and thanks for watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiWoRg0iMk
[23:55] <musl> Jordan_U: That definitively? Did the dpkg guys intentionally leave that feature out?
[23:56] <vacho> that's enough, that goes for all you in the #
[23:57] <djskidd> Family Guy: Retarded, but funny
[23:57] <urlin2u> mmm spoon feeding
[23:59] <mamece2> ChogyDan: hello, im in the live cd
[23:59] <ChogyDan> mamece2: hi
[23:59] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  i could not fix the mount all thing...
[23:59] <extender> I have a VPS with ubuntu, can I install windows on it somehow?
[23:59] <ChogyDan> mamece2: can you pastebin the full error messages?
[23:59] <Guest78971> hi all!
[23:59] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  ive mounted the sda1 partition, it says cero bytes free...
[23:59] <djskidd> I once did something stupid