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alex285I found the way00:06
alex285I had to pick the greek from login screen00:06
alex285But I had disabled login screen so i couldnt see that option00:07
alex285I just tried it as a lucky guess :)00:07
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mogitaffHi, do you know where xfce-power-manager store the configuration ?10:02
jarnosI copied some old directory tree (including regular files) to another partition by Thunar and now date modified is the date of copying for all files. I think the date should have been preserved. I don't understand.15:28
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jarnosUpdate manager is _very_ slow in checking: Xorg uses about all available CPU. Can I expect some improvement in this issue?16:42
DrCodehi all17:50
DrCodeall17:50
DrCodeany one here?17:50
Sysi!anyone17:50
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.17:50
DrCodeI am trying to run xubuntu 11.04 under virtualbox, it seems that xubuntu 10.04 was faster then xubunutu 11.04, any idea?17:54
Sysihow much ram can you give for that machine?17:55
DrCode51217:57
DrCode512mb, it seems that it take lot of CPU17:57
DrCodeis there way to make xubuntu faster on old pc?17:58
Sysinot much17:58
Sysiopen taskmanager and see what's using cpu17:58
DrCodexOrg17:59
Wizarddisable "effects"17:59
Wizardif any :)17:59
Wizardgood evening17:59
DrCodehow?17:59
DrCodehi18:00
Sysixfce doesn't have sny, problem with drivers18:00
Sysi*any18:00
DrCodexfce dosn'thave unity18:00
DrCodeso I still don't understand why its so slow18:00
Sysivirtualbox is slower than direct hardware, have you installed guest additions?18:00
DrCodemybe the kernel 2.6.38 have bug in virtualbox?18:00
DrCodeyes18:00
Sysicould be bug too18:01
DrCodeubuntu 10.04 work exclent18:01
DrCodeI also upgrade into kernel 3.0.0 and same problem18:01
Sysiif you have old machine you should make real installation18:01
DrCodeok18:01
DrCodeI have in my laptop xubuntu 11.04 that work ok18:02
Sysiyou could try settings more graphics memory for it18:02
DrCodebut I need VirtualBox for some testing18:02
WizardI'd like to use LTS :S18:02
DrCode11.04 is stable ver?18:03
Sysiit is18:03
Wizardfor me it's still in beta18:03
Wizard;P18:03
DrCodeok18:04
DrCodethanx Sysi and Wizard18:04
WizardI haven't helped much18:04
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n2diy Would copying /home between two boxes result in slowing them down? That's how I've been backing up my files, and one box has become so slow it is unusably.19:03
charlie-tcadepends on which releases are installed and how you copy19:04
genii-aroundIf you're using /home/username while copying /home/username file-locking might be problemmatic19:06
charlie-tcan2diy: seems the answer should be "yes, it can"19:06
Myrttialso depends on the protocol you are using19:09
genii-aroundhopefully something like differential rsync :)19:10
n2diycharlie-tca, genii-around, ok, same releases, but different hardware. I'm thinking that whatever loads modules has been "polluted"? Lsmod show lots of modules loaded, and I'm just running plain jane systems.19:11
charlie-tcajust copying /home should not be copying those modules19:11
n2diycharlie-tca, ok, so nix that idea.19:12
charlie-tcahowever, it could fill the drives if nothing is ever deleted from the machine being copied to19:12
charlie-tcaI create files, system creates backups, I delete files. If I copy to the other machine before I delete, those are copied19:12
n2diycharlie-tca, ok, I'm using grsync, and have setup my include and exclude files to ignore all the caching files, and I also have set "delete on destination" so as not to probagate deleted files.19:13
charlie-tcaAre you running updates on both systems? Do both systems have the same video? nvidia at least creates files in /home for video19:14
n2diycharlie-tca, could xorg-config be polluted?19:14
n2diycharlie-tca, yes, staying up to date.19:15
charlie-tcaIf both systems do not have the same apps installed, it might be looking for one that isn't there19:15
n2diycharlie-tca, so, if one box had kstars, and the other one didn't, that could be an issue?19:16
TrowaHey all, I'm attempting to install 10.10 via the alternate CD, however when I get the option to install, I get the error "/install/vmlinuz: file not found"19:16
charlie-tcayup19:16
charlie-tcan2diy: anything that creates a file in /home could be a problem if it is not on both systems19:16
charlie-tcaTrowa: usb install?19:17
n2diycharlie-tca, ok, so it wouldn't hurt to reconfigure x?19:17
Trowacharlie-tca:  CD19:17
charlie-tcan2diy: should hurt anything19:17
charlie-tcaTrowa: then it is a bad cd or bad download19:17
TrowaAlright, I'll try it again.  Thanks.19:18
n2diycharlie-tca, ok, can you refresh me on that command syntax?19:18
genii-around!md5 | Trowa19:18
ubottuTrowa: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows19:18
charlie-tcaAnyone know the syntax for dpkg reconfigure?19:18
TrowaThanks, ubottu19:18
Trowaer, yeah.  haha19:18
charlie-tcaI get it wrong everytime19:18
n2diy:)19:19
n2diycharlie-tca, ok, I can track it down with google, thanks.19:19
genii-aroundsudo dpkg-reconfigure -dlow xserver-xorg     ... or similar...19:19
genii-aroundbah.19:20
genii-aroundApologies, I think is -plow for ask all questions, not -dlow19:20
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boogztaHello everyone21:22
boogztaQuick question: I'm trying to install Xubuntu 11.04 (Natty) on an old 1300 mhz box with 256 mb RAM.. and it keeps hanging/freezing during the installation. I've tested the disks integrity and it seems to be a good burn. Any tips or advice on this matter would be appreciated.21:25
Unit193Are you using the Alt ISO?21:25
boogztaI'm not familiar with the alt iso21:26
Unit193!alternate21:26
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal21:26
boogztaAhh! Very nice.. I'll give that one a try. Thank you very much. :]21:27
boogztaI was using the standard Live CD21:28
Unit193That's much better with low ram computers21:28
boogztaIs it fairly easy to install?  I'm a Linux neophyte.21:29
boogztaJust curious. But, I plan on reading the documentation, etc.21:31
Unit193I think it's easy, but it has a "Text User Interface" meaning that it is still easy to use21:32
boogztaVery nice.  Do you think it's a RAM issue that's acusing my install to hang?  or possibly video? The old machine is using onboard graphics, which aren't too impressive, lol.21:34
boogztacausing*21:34
Unit193I'm not on something all that awesome21:34
boogztaSame here. This machine is a P4 2.4 gig21:35
boogztaBut Xubuntu 11.04 runs smooth as silk on here21:36
* Unit193 Optiplex GX260 with a better CPU and more RAM than you have21:36
boogzta:P21:36
charlie-tcaboogzta: it will work, but you probably should not try to run more than one app at a time on the 245MB ram21:37
charlie-tcaboogzta: it will work, but you probably should not try to run more than one app at a time on the 256MB21:37
boogztaWhat about if I up the RAM to 512?21:38
boogztaSilly question, I know.  But I'm debating whether to go with 11.04 on that machine.. or opt for a lighter distro21:40
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charlie-tcamore ram is always better21:40
charlie-tcaYou tried the desktop cd. It has a live session. Did you check it out and see how it works?21:41
boogztayes, the live session locked up as well21:42
boogztait wouldn't fully load the desktop environment21:42
charlie-tcaThen it will run quite badly. You might want to look into Lubuntu, which is lighter21:43
charlie-tca!lubuntu21:43
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.21:43
boogztaDoes Lubunto have the same type package installer as Xubuntu?21:43
charlie-tcaLubuntu does use the same installer, for oneiric21:44
charlie-tcaFor the other releases, it is different21:44
charlie-tcaGrab the oneiric desktop image and try it. It is only a few weeks now to the final release of Oneiric.21:45
charlie-tcahttp://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/21:45
Unit193You would have to go with !mini for Natty21:45
boogztaOk awesome, because I'm still learning the commands and whatnot.. so the GUI is very helpful atm21:46
boogztaAnother question, if I may:  I installed Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) on a newer machine (core 2 quad with Asus 1 gb gpu) and it won't load Unity by default. It kicks me to gnome and says that my hardware isn't capable to run Unity, Etc. Any idea why?21:48
boogztaMaybe I should be in the apropriae channel for that question. Sorry about that.21:52
Unit193Yeah, I have no idea as I don't run Unity :P21:52
boogztaAnyway, thank you all for the assistance!  I'm off to download Lubuntu and Oneiric. I'll let you know soon if it was a success or not. :]21:53
Unit193Ok, cool21:55
Brutus-Hi, what is the xubuntu's file manager name, please?22:41
Unit193The default for Xubuntu is thunar22:41
Brutus-thanks22:43
Unit193Sure22:44
ChristopherNGHey folks23:47
ChristopherNGWhats gonig on?23:47

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