[00:06] <alex285> I found the way
[00:06] <alex285> I had to pick the greek from login screen
[00:07] <alex285> But I had disabled login screen so i couldnt see that option
[00:07] <alex285> I just tried it as a lucky guess :)
[10:02] <mogitaff> Hi, do you know where xfce-power-manager store the configuration ?
[15:28] <jarnos> I copied some old directory tree (including regular files) to another partition by Thunar and now date modified is the date of copying for all files. I think the date should have been preserved. I don't understand.
[16:42] <jarnos> Update manager is _very_ slow in checking: Xorg uses about all available CPU. Can I expect some improvement in this issue?
[17:50] <DrCode> hi all
[17:50] <DrCode> all
[17:50] <DrCode> any one here?
[17:50] <Sysi> !anyone
[17:54] <DrCode> I am trying to run xubuntu 11.04 under virtualbox, it seems that xubuntu 10.04 was faster then xubunutu 11.04, any idea?
[17:55] <Sysi> how much ram can you give for that machine?
[17:57] <DrCode> 512
[17:57] <DrCode> 512mb, it seems that it take lot of CPU
[17:58] <DrCode> is there way to make xubuntu faster on old pc?
[17:58] <Sysi> not much
[17:58] <Sysi> open taskmanager and see what's using cpu
[17:59] <DrCode> xOrg
[17:59] <Wizard> disable "effects"
[17:59] <Wizard> if any :)
[17:59] <Wizard> good evening
[17:59] <DrCode> how?
[18:00] <DrCode> hi
[18:00] <Sysi> xfce doesn't have sny, problem with drivers
[18:00] <Sysi> *any
[18:00] <DrCode> xfce dosn'thave unity
[18:00] <DrCode> so I still don't understand why its so slow
[18:00] <Sysi> virtualbox is slower than direct hardware, have you installed guest additions?
[18:00] <DrCode> mybe the kernel 2.6.38 have bug in virtualbox?
[18:00] <DrCode> yes
[18:01] <Sysi> could be bug too
[18:01] <DrCode> ubuntu 10.04 work exclent
[18:01] <DrCode> I also upgrade into kernel 3.0.0 and same problem
[18:01] <Sysi> if you have old machine you should make real installation
[18:01] <DrCode> ok
[18:02] <DrCode> I have in my laptop xubuntu 11.04 that work ok
[18:02] <Sysi> you could try settings more graphics memory for it
[18:02] <DrCode> but I need VirtualBox for some testing
[18:02] <Wizard> I'd like to use LTS :S
[18:03] <DrCode> 11.04 is stable ver?
[18:03] <Sysi> it is
[18:03] <Wizard> for me it's still in beta
[18:03] <Wizard> ;P
[18:04] <DrCode> ok
[18:04] <DrCode> thanx Sysi and Wizard
[18:04] <Wizard> I haven't helped much
[19:03] <n2diy>  Would copying /home between two boxes result in slowing them down? That's how I've been backing up my files, and one box has become so slow it is unusably.
[19:04] <charlie-tca> depends on which releases are installed and how you copy
[19:06] <genii-around> If you're using /home/username while copying /home/username file-locking might be problemmatic
[19:06] <charlie-tca> n2diy: seems the answer should be "yes, it can"
[19:09] <Myrtti> also depends on the protocol you are using
[19:10] <genii-around> hopefully something like differential rsync :)
[19:11] <n2diy> charlie-tca, genii-around, ok, same releases, but different hardware. I'm thinking that whatever loads modules has been "polluted"? Lsmod show lots of modules loaded, and I'm just running plain jane systems.
[19:11] <charlie-tca> just copying /home should not be copying those modules
[19:12] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok, so nix that idea.
[19:12] <charlie-tca> however, it could fill the drives if nothing is ever deleted from the machine being copied to
[19:12] <charlie-tca> I create files, system creates backups, I delete files. If I copy to the other machine before I delete, those are copied
[19:13] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok, I'm using grsync, and have setup my include and exclude files to ignore all the caching files, and I also have set "delete on destination" so as not to probagate deleted files.
[19:14] <charlie-tca> Are you running updates on both systems? Do both systems have the same video? nvidia at least creates files in /home for video
[19:14] <n2diy> charlie-tca, could xorg-config be polluted?
[19:15] <n2diy> charlie-tca, yes, staying up to date.
[19:15] <charlie-tca> If both systems do not have the same apps installed, it might be looking for one that isn't there
[19:16] <n2diy> charlie-tca, so, if one box had kstars, and the other one didn't, that could be an issue?
[19:16] <Trowa> Hey all, I'm attempting to install 10.10 via the alternate CD, however when I get the option to install, I get the error "/install/vmlinuz: file not found"
[19:16] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:16] <charlie-tca> n2diy: anything that creates a file in /home could be a problem if it is not on both systems
[19:17] <charlie-tca> Trowa: usb install?
[19:17] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok, so it wouldn't hurt to reconfigure x?
[19:17] <Trowa> charlie-tca:  CD
[19:17] <charlie-tca> n2diy: should hurt anything
[19:17] <charlie-tca> Trowa: then it is a bad cd or bad download
[19:18] <Trowa> Alright, I'll try it again.  Thanks.
[19:18] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok, can you refresh me on that command syntax?
[19:18] <genii-around> !md5 | Trowa
[19:18] <charlie-tca> Anyone know the syntax for dpkg reconfigure?
[19:18] <Trowa> Thanks, ubottu
[19:18] <Trowa> er, yeah.  haha
[19:18] <charlie-tca> I get it wrong everytime
[19:19] <n2diy> :)
[19:19] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok, I can track it down with google, thanks.
[19:19] <genii-around> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -dlow xserver-xorg     ... or similar...
[19:20] <genii-around> bah.
[19:20] <genii-around> Apologies, I think is -plow for ask all questions, not -dlow
[19:20]  * genii-around sneaks out for more caffeine
[21:22] <boogzta> Hello everyone
[21:25] <boogzta> Quick question: I'm trying to install Xubuntu 11.04 (Natty) on an old 1300 mhz box with 256 mb RAM.. and it keeps hanging/freezing during the installation. I've tested the disks integrity and it seems to be a good burn. Any tips or advice on this matter would be appreciated.
[21:25] <Unit193> Are you using the Alt ISO?
[21:26] <boogzta> I'm not familiar with the alt iso
[21:26] <Unit193> !alternate
[21:27] <boogzta> Ahh! Very nice.. I'll give that one a try. Thank you very much. :]
[21:28] <boogzta> I was using the standard Live CD
[21:28] <Unit193> That's much better with low ram computers
[21:29] <boogzta> Is it fairly easy to install?  I'm a Linux neophyte.
[21:31] <boogzta> Just curious. But, I plan on reading the documentation, etc.
[21:32] <Unit193> I think it's easy, but it has a "Text User Interface" meaning that it is still easy to use
[21:34] <boogzta> Very nice.  Do you think it's a RAM issue that's acusing my install to hang?  or possibly video? The old machine is using onboard graphics, which aren't too impressive, lol.
[21:34] <boogzta> causing*
[21:34] <Unit193> I'm not on something all that awesome
[21:35] <boogzta> Same here. This machine is a P4 2.4 gig
[21:36] <boogzta> But Xubuntu 11.04 runs smooth as silk on here
[21:36]  * Unit193 Optiplex GX260 with a better CPU and more RAM than you have
[21:36] <boogzta> :P
[21:37] <charlie-tca> boogzta: it will work, but you probably should not try to run more than one app at a time on the 245MB ram
[21:37] <charlie-tca> boogzta: it will work, but you probably should not try to run more than one app at a time on the 256MB
[21:38] <boogzta> What about if I up the RAM to 512?
[21:40] <boogzta> Silly question, I know.  But I'm debating whether to go with 11.04 on that machine.. or opt for a lighter distro
[21:40]  * Unit193 makes no comments
[21:40] <charlie-tca> more ram is always better
[21:41] <charlie-tca> You tried the desktop cd. It has a live session. Did you check it out and see how it works?
[21:42] <boogzta> yes, the live session locked up as well
[21:42] <boogzta> it wouldn't fully load the desktop environment
[21:43] <charlie-tca> Then it will run quite badly. You might want to look into Lubuntu, which is lighter
[21:43] <charlie-tca> !lubuntu
[21:43] <boogzta> Does Lubunto have the same type package installer as Xubuntu?
[21:44] <charlie-tca> Lubuntu does use the same installer, for oneiric
[21:44] <charlie-tca> For the other releases, it is different
[21:45] <charlie-tca> Grab the oneiric desktop image and try it. It is only a few weeks now to the final release of Oneiric.
[21:45] <charlie-tca> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
[21:45] <Unit193> You would have to go with !mini for Natty
[21:46] <boogzta> Ok awesome, because I'm still learning the commands and whatnot.. so the GUI is very helpful atm
[21:48] <boogzta> Another question, if I may:  I installed Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) on a newer machine (core 2 quad with Asus 1 gb gpu) and it won't load Unity by default. It kicks me to gnome and says that my hardware isn't capable to run Unity, Etc. Any idea why?
[21:52] <boogzta> Maybe I should be in the apropriae channel for that question. Sorry about that.
[21:52] <Unit193> Yeah, I have no idea as I don't run Unity :P
[21:53] <boogzta> Anyway, thank you all for the assistance!  I'm off to download Lubuntu and Oneiric. I'll let you know soon if it was a success or not. :]
[21:55] <Unit193> Ok, cool
[22:41] <Brutus-> Hi, what is the xubuntu's file manager name, please?
[22:41] <Unit193> The default for Xubuntu is thunar
[22:43] <Brutus-> thanks
[22:44] <Unit193> Sure
[23:47] <ChristopherNG> Hey folks
[23:47] <ChristopherNG> Whats gonig on?