[00:06] I found the way [00:06] I had to pick the greek from login screen [00:07] But I had disabled login screen so i couldnt see that option [00:07] I just tried it as a lucky guess :) === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [10:02] Hi, do you know where xfce-power-manager store the configuration ? [15:28] I copied some old directory tree (including regular files) to another partition by Thunar and now date modified is the date of copying for all files. I think the date should have been preserved. I don't understand. === eyes_ is now known as EyesIsServer === _sour is now known as sour [16:42] Update manager is _very_ slow in checking: Xorg uses about all available CPU. Can I expect some improvement in this issue? [17:50] hi all [17:50] all [17:50] any one here? [17:50] !anyone [17:50] A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [17:54] I am trying to run xubuntu 11.04 under virtualbox, it seems that xubuntu 10.04 was faster then xubunutu 11.04, any idea? [17:55] how much ram can you give for that machine? [17:57] 512 [17:57] 512mb, it seems that it take lot of CPU [17:58] is there way to make xubuntu faster on old pc? [17:58] not much [17:58] open taskmanager and see what's using cpu [17:59] xOrg [17:59] disable "effects" [17:59] if any :) [17:59] good evening [17:59] how? [18:00] hi [18:00] xfce doesn't have sny, problem with drivers [18:00] *any [18:00] xfce dosn'thave unity [18:00] so I still don't understand why its so slow [18:00] virtualbox is slower than direct hardware, have you installed guest additions? [18:00] mybe the kernel 2.6.38 have bug in virtualbox? [18:00] yes [18:01] could be bug too [18:01] ubuntu 10.04 work exclent [18:01] I also upgrade into kernel 3.0.0 and same problem [18:01] if you have old machine you should make real installation [18:01] ok [18:02] I have in my laptop xubuntu 11.04 that work ok [18:02] you could try settings more graphics memory for it [18:02] but I need VirtualBox for some testing [18:02] I'd like to use LTS :S [18:03] 11.04 is stable ver? [18:03] it is [18:03] for me it's still in beta [18:03] ;P [18:04] ok [18:04] thanx Sysi and Wizard [18:04] I haven't helped much === sour is now known as fstash [19:03] Would copying /home between two boxes result in slowing them down? That's how I've been backing up my files, and one box has become so slow it is unusably. [19:04] depends on which releases are installed and how you copy [19:06] If you're using /home/username while copying /home/username file-locking might be problemmatic [19:06] n2diy: seems the answer should be "yes, it can" [19:09] also depends on the protocol you are using [19:10] hopefully something like differential rsync :) [19:11] charlie-tca, genii-around, ok, same releases, but different hardware. I'm thinking that whatever loads modules has been "polluted"? Lsmod show lots of modules loaded, and I'm just running plain jane systems. [19:11] just copying /home should not be copying those modules [19:12] charlie-tca, ok, so nix that idea. [19:12] however, it could fill the drives if nothing is ever deleted from the machine being copied to [19:12] I create files, system creates backups, I delete files. If I copy to the other machine before I delete, those are copied [19:13] charlie-tca, ok, I'm using grsync, and have setup my include and exclude files to ignore all the caching files, and I also have set "delete on destination" so as not to probagate deleted files. [19:14] Are you running updates on both systems? Do both systems have the same video? nvidia at least creates files in /home for video [19:14] charlie-tca, could xorg-config be polluted? [19:15] charlie-tca, yes, staying up to date. [19:15] If both systems do not have the same apps installed, it might be looking for one that isn't there [19:16] charlie-tca, so, if one box had kstars, and the other one didn't, that could be an issue? [19:16] Hey all, I'm attempting to install 10.10 via the alternate CD, however when I get the option to install, I get the error "/install/vmlinuz: file not found" [19:16] yup [19:16] n2diy: anything that creates a file in /home could be a problem if it is not on both systems [19:17] Trowa: usb install? [19:17] charlie-tca, ok, so it wouldn't hurt to reconfigure x? [19:17] charlie-tca: CD [19:17] n2diy: should hurt anything [19:17] Trowa: then it is a bad cd or bad download [19:18] Alright, I'll try it again. Thanks. [19:18] charlie-tca, ok, can you refresh me on that command syntax? [19:18] !md5 | Trowa [19:18] Trowa: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [19:18] Anyone know the syntax for dpkg reconfigure? [19:18] Thanks, ubottu [19:18] er, yeah. haha [19:18] I get it wrong everytime [19:19] :) [19:19] charlie-tca, ok, I can track it down with google, thanks. [19:19] sudo dpkg-reconfigure -dlow xserver-xorg ... or similar... [19:20] bah. [19:20] Apologies, I think is -plow for ask all questions, not -dlow [19:20] * genii-around sneaks out for more caffeine === SaaMmY1 is now known as SaaMmY [21:22] Hello everyone [21:25] Quick question: I'm trying to install Xubuntu 11.04 (Natty) on an old 1300 mhz box with 256 mb RAM.. and it keeps hanging/freezing during the installation. I've tested the disks integrity and it seems to be a good burn. Any tips or advice on this matter would be appreciated. [21:25] Are you using the Alt ISO? [21:26] I'm not familiar with the alt iso [21:26] !alternate [21:26] The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal [21:27] Ahh! Very nice.. I'll give that one a try. Thank you very much. :] [21:28] I was using the standard Live CD [21:28] That's much better with low ram computers [21:29] Is it fairly easy to install? I'm a Linux neophyte. [21:31] Just curious. But, I plan on reading the documentation, etc. [21:32] I think it's easy, but it has a "Text User Interface" meaning that it is still easy to use [21:34] Very nice. Do you think it's a RAM issue that's acusing my install to hang? or possibly video? The old machine is using onboard graphics, which aren't too impressive, lol. [21:34] causing* [21:34] I'm not on something all that awesome [21:35] Same here. This machine is a P4 2.4 gig [21:36] But Xubuntu 11.04 runs smooth as silk on here [21:36] * Unit193 Optiplex GX260 with a better CPU and more RAM than you have [21:36] :P [21:37] boogzta: it will work, but you probably should not try to run more than one app at a time on the 245MB ram [21:37] boogzta: it will work, but you probably should not try to run more than one app at a time on the 256MB [21:38] What about if I up the RAM to 512? [21:40] Silly question, I know. But I'm debating whether to go with 11.04 on that machine.. or opt for a lighter distro [21:40] * Unit193 makes no comments [21:40] more ram is always better [21:41] You tried the desktop cd. It has a live session. Did you check it out and see how it works? [21:42] yes, the live session locked up as well [21:42] it wouldn't fully load the desktop environment [21:43] Then it will run quite badly. You might want to look into Lubuntu, which is lighter [21:43] !lubuntu [21:43] lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [21:43] Does Lubunto have the same type package installer as Xubuntu? [21:44] Lubuntu does use the same installer, for oneiric [21:44] For the other releases, it is different [21:45] Grab the oneiric desktop image and try it. It is only a few weeks now to the final release of Oneiric. [21:45] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/ [21:45] You would have to go with !mini for Natty [21:46] Ok awesome, because I'm still learning the commands and whatnot.. so the GUI is very helpful atm [21:48] Another question, if I may: I installed Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) on a newer machine (core 2 quad with Asus 1 gb gpu) and it won't load Unity by default. It kicks me to gnome and says that my hardware isn't capable to run Unity, Etc. Any idea why? [21:52] Maybe I should be in the apropriae channel for that question. Sorry about that. [21:52] Yeah, I have no idea as I don't run Unity :P [21:53] Anyway, thank you all for the assistance! I'm off to download Lubuntu and Oneiric. I'll let you know soon if it was a success or not. :] [21:55] Ok, cool [22:41] Hi, what is the xubuntu's file manager name, please? [22:41] The default for Xubuntu is thunar [22:43] thanks [22:44] Sure [23:47] Hey folks [23:47] Whats gonig on?