[05:38] <didrocks> good morning
[07:07] <oSoMoN> v
[07:07] <oSoMoN> good morning
[12:17] <kamstrup_> JohnLea: hey - Should the options in the Types filter in the files lens be sorted alphabetically, or should they be fixed as they are now?
[12:17] <kamstrup_> JohnLea: and same question about the Genre filter in the music lens
[12:29] <Saviq> hi all, does anyone successfully run unity-2d-launcher built out of source? the qml files aren't there it seems, am I missing somethinh?
[12:31] <JohnLea> kamstrup_; alphabetically, with the one exception that log titles that force the button to be double or triple width are always the last option
[12:31] <JohnLea> long ^
[12:36] <kamstrup_> JohnLea: but what is "long" - and what if there are many long titles?
[12:37] <kamstrup_> JohnLea: i'll see if I can figure out with njpatel if/when the button sizes grow
[12:45] <andyrock> JohnLea, have you test last unity
[12:45] <andyrock> regarding fast drag and drop mouse move?
[12:56] <JohnLea> kamstrup_; long is defined as longer than can fit into the button length; because the Genre buttons are 3 abreast in the Music Lens, less text can fit into each button than in say the Category section of the app lens where the buttons are 2 abreast.  Currently the only text that is too long to fit into a normally sized button is "Science & Engineering" in the Categories section of the App lens
[12:57] <JohnLea> kamstrup_; if there are many long titles, they are stacked on top of each other, again in A-Z order
[12:57] <JohnLea> andyrock; not yet, just got back today, I'll prob have some time to look tomorrow
[12:58] <andyrock> JohnLea, np
[13:08] <kamstrup_> JohnLea: but u3d doesn't expand buttons it always just ellipsises, is that a u2d feature?
[13:11] <davidcalle> Hey didrocks
[13:12] <didrocks> hey davidcalle!
[13:13] <davidcalle> didrocks, do you know if there is a way to know if the user is on unity-2d or 3d?
[13:14] <didrocks> davidcalle: quite geeky, but there is a way by dbus
[13:14] <didrocks> davidcalle: would that fit? (installing d-feet)
[13:15] <didrocks> davidcalle: depends, if it's on oneiric, for last week, there is the DESKTOP_SESSION which should be ubuntu for 3d users, and ubuntu-2d for 2d users, even if it fallbacked
[13:15] <davidcalle> The HorizontalRenderer is crashing on 3D, I'd like to detect if the user is on it and switch to the apporpriate renderer. I don't know a lot of dbus stuff, but I could try, yes.
[13:15] <davidcalle> Oh great!
[13:16] <davidcalle> Works perfectly thanks :)
[13:16] <didrocks> davidcalle: hum, you mean, dynamically fallbacking for the user?
[13:17] <davidcalle> didrocks, just a condition in the daemon. As a workaround until the bug is fixed.
[13:17] <didrocks> davidcalle: no, that's not possible
[13:17] <didrocks> davidcalle: because we need to set values on session, gnome-session is trying to respawn required components as well
[13:18] <didrocks> so replacing unity by unity-2d dynamically doesn't work
[13:18] <davidcalle> didrocks, so the lens-daemon will start before DESKTOP_SESSION is on the good value?
[13:19] <didrocks> davidcalle: hum no, oh you mean, the HorizontalRenderer just crash in unity-2d and not 3d?
[13:19] <davidcalle> Just un 3d
[13:19] <didrocks> davidcalle: I was thinking you wanted to restart another unity :)
[13:19] <davidcalle> in*
[13:19] <davidcalle> Nope :)
[13:19] <didrocks> ok, in these case, yeah, rely on the env variable
[13:19] <davidcalle> didrocks, great, ty!
[13:20] <didrocks> davidcalle: yw :)
[13:31] <davidcalle> didrocks, just tried, works perfectly, you rock. Unrelated question, will there be a lot of french in Orlando? ;)
[13:33] <didrocks> davidcalle: there will be some at least, the canonical french mafia, the ubuntu-fr president and maybe some more from ubuntu-fr :) are you coming?
[13:33] <davidcalle> didrocks, yep
[13:33] <didrocks> davidcalle: excellent, will be nice to meet you there :-)
[13:33] <didrocks> davidcalle: and orlando in november, is like summer in winter for us ;-)
[13:34] <davidcalle> didrocks, heh :-)
[13:38] <davidcalle> lamalex, hi
[13:42] <JohnLea> kamstrup_; no this should be a Unity 3d feature
[13:42] <JohnLea> kamstrup_; it might not be implemented yet though
[13:42] <kamstrup_> JohnLea: it's not
[14:35] <lamalex> davidcalle, hey
[14:36] <davidcalle> lamalex, I believe you are the music lens dev, right?
[14:37] <lamalex> davidcalle, yes, i am!
[14:37] <lamalex> what's up
[14:37] <davidcalle> lamalex, I was wondering : do you plan to use the Horizontal renderer to display the name of the artist next to song and album tiles?
[14:39] <lamalex> davidcalle, no. the way it is is how design gave it to me
[14:39] <lamalex> can you send me a picture of the horizonal renderer? i dont think ive actually see in
[14:39] <lamalex> it
[14:39] <davidcalle> http://ubuntuone.com/4hJIk1CeAboeNXsKv0T1ZP
[14:40] <davidcalle> lamalex ^
[14:40] <davidcalle> It's on unity-2D (horizontal renderer is buggy on 3d this week)
[14:41] <jcastro> davidcalle: man, looking nice!
[14:41] <jcastro> davidcalle: mind if I tweet that?
[14:41] <davidcalle> jcastro, hey thanks! Not at all.
[14:41] <lamalex> oh wow that's nice
[14:41] <lamalex> i'll talk to design
[14:41] <lamalex> that would be better
[14:42] <davidcalle> lamalex, great :)
[14:42] <jcastro> davidcalle: unfortunately stefano has been busy so he hasn't gotten to updating the askubuntu lens yet
[14:43] <davidcalle> lamalex, but be warned if you try : until the bug is fixed, opening the lens on 3d with the horizontal renderer crashes unity.
[14:44] <jcastro> hey do lenses load dynamically now? or do you have to log out after you install it?
[14:44] <lamalex> haha oh
[14:44] <lamalex> well then no, that's a good reason why not to use it
[14:44] <lamalex> njpatel, gord ^
[14:44] <lamalex> this dude is definitely right about horizontal renderer for the music lens
[14:45] <davidcalle> jcastro, porting from natty to oneiric should be rather easy now. I will make a branch for the askubuntu one if I have the time before Oneiric comes out.
[14:45] <gord> lamalex, saw that yesterday, fixed in a branch waiting review
[14:45] <lamalex> link?
[14:46] <jcastro> davidcalle: easy? kenvandine told me it was basically a rewrite?
[14:46] <davidcalle> jcastro, don't know. I'm making packages right now. :)
[14:46] <jcastro> if it's easy then whoo hoo!
[14:47] <jcastro> hey njpatel, after we install a new lens do we still need to log out/in?
[14:47] <njpatel> jcastro, right now, yeah
[14:48] <njpatel> jcastro, can you file a bug about that and assign to me please?
[14:48] <jcastro> I did last cycle
[14:48] <jcastro> I can find it and ask harder. :)
[14:48] <lamalex> hey davidcalle where is the code for thatbooks lens
[14:48] <lamalex> gord, got a link to that branch? ill give you a review
[14:50] <gord> lamalex, https://code.launchpad.net/~gordallott/unity/new_dash_icon_size/+merge/75036
[14:51] <jcastro> njpatel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/606277
[14:51] <jcastro> it doesn't let me assign it to you in the upstream Unity project
[14:51] <davidcalle> lamalex, https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/unity-books-lens/oneiric-first-draft Fresh fro today, but it's missing a lot of comments.
[14:52] <davidcalle> from
[14:52] <lamalex> thanks
[14:56] <davidcalle> Hey Jono, got a PPA for you.
[14:56] <jono> davidcalle, nice!
[14:56] <jono> davidcalle, could you email me all the details and a screenshot
[14:57] <jono> and let me know how you would like people to get involved and participate
[14:57] <davidcalle> jono, will do.
[14:57] <jono> thanks davidcalle!
[14:58] <jcastro> davidcalle: Stefano will update his eventually, it's the reddit one that is basically unmaintained if you're looking for one to work on next
[14:59] <davidcalle> jcastro, why not, I'm not a big reddit user myself, but I could give it a try. ;-)
[15:00] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/reddit-lens
[15:18] <andreasn> jono, the bugs in http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/14/thunderbird-in-ubuntu-11-10/ did any of them end up in the mozilla bugzilla or did they get stuck in Launchpad?
[15:20] <didrocks> jono: now that there is ligthning (the calendar) installed, you should add to the list that "accepting a meeting in the thunderbird view write "Event added to the calendar" without working btw
[15:20] <didrocks> andreasn: not sure if you are interested in this kind of feedback on a popular extension ^
[15:36] <AlanBell> didrocks: works for me
[15:37] <didrocks> AlanBell: hum, that's weird, I tried twice today without any success
[15:39] <didrocks> AlanBell: latest oneiric as well I guess?
[15:40] <AlanBell> actually no, I will test on Oneiric in a sec
[15:44] <didrocks> AlanBell: ah, keep me posted! :-)
[15:46] <davidcalle> AlanBell, I got what you were looking for yesterday, a python lens with packaging : https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/unity-books-lens/oneiric-first-draft
[15:47] <AlanBell> awesome
[15:47] <davidcalle> AlanBell, the packaging is poor, I'm not used to debianazing stuff, but it builds.
[15:48] <AlanBell> I will have a go at writing the appmenu lens in it, my fork of the vala apps lens is a bit messy
[15:48] <davidcalle> AlanBell, nice!
[15:52] <jono> andreasn, not sure if those are upstream in Mozilla
[15:53] <jono> didrocks, is lightning now shipping in 11.10?
[15:53] <andreasn> jono, I looked through the list, it seems one of them is
[15:54] <didrocks> jono: it's there by default, with the issue I noticed aboved
[15:59] <jono> oh cool
[15:59] <jono> I will upgrade
[16:00] <jono> man Unity is *really* crashy for me
[16:00] <jono> whenever I use the Alt-Tab or Switcher
[16:00] <jono> it is constantly crashing and restarting
[16:05] <Andy80> let's try to ask this again: is anyone working on the "not visible cursor" in Oneiric login textbox?
[16:20] <lamalex> gord, approved that merge
[16:20] <lamalex> looks/works
[16:30] <lamalex> hey davidcalle how did you get the author in your books lens?
[16:31] <lamalex> is it in the comments?
[16:31] <lamalex> doesn't show up for me in music
[16:32] <davidcalle> lamalex, Yep. Of course, you have to use the Horizontal renderer for it to show.
[16:32] <lamalex> yah
[16:32] <lamalex> hm weird..
[16:32] <gord> lamalex, awesome, thanks
[16:33] <davidcalle> lamalex : model.append (uri, icon, category,"text/html", title, author, uri)
[16:34] <davidcalle> lamalex, and I believe the last uri is the one used for a drag'n'drop
[16:36] <lamalex> davidcalle, weird, this is what i get http://ubuntuone.com/737Zlvs3wUiHn8ex4eTq3t
[16:40] <lamalex> njpatel, gord ^ possibility it's broken in the vala api?
[16:51] <gord> lamalex, shouldn't be, i mean you are just appending info to a dee model right?
[16:51] <lamalex> indeed
[16:52] <lamalex> it's odd that it's not rendering it..
[16:52] <gord> lamalex, it needs to be in the comments field
[16:52] <lamalex> it is
[16:53] <gord> hrm maybe its a bug on my side, its been a while since i'v seen the horizontal renderer, gwibber was the only thing using it and gwibber was broke
[16:53] <lamalex> maybe davidcalle was using 2d
[16:53] <lamalex> i think it's a bug on your side
[16:56] <lamalex> gord, is the renderer in unity proper?
[16:56] <lamalex> (would assume so)
[16:57] <gord> lamalex, yeah it was, fixed it, method was not virtual when it should of been
[16:57] <lamalex> :)
[16:57] <lamalex> rad
[16:57] <lamalex> pushed to trunk?
[16:58] <gord> i'm not that quick :P
[16:58] <lamalex> damn, grandpa gord over here
[17:05] <gord> lamalex, actually i need to make this change depend on the earlier change you reviewed (because that fixes the segfault in the horizontal renderer). so i can't merge this until tomorrow some time :( sorry
[17:06] <lamalex> gord, just merge the branch from earlier
[17:06] <lamalex> or heck ill merge your branch
[17:06] <gord> lamalex, thats blocked on an earlier branch that needs some re-thinking
[17:06] <gord> else i would
[17:06] <lamalex> ha
[17:06] <lamalex> ok
[17:07] <gord> i'll get this up in a merge request so you have something you can build yourself and work with though, two minutes
[17:11] <gord> lamalex, https://code.launchpad.net/~gordallott/unity/fix-horizontal-renderer/+merge/75227 :)
[17:11] <gord> -> out
[17:57] <Kaleo> Trevinho: https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/unity-2d/panel_no_crash_at_logout/+merge/75233 :)
[18:56] <Trevinho> Good Kaleo it's working as I expected! :)
[19:03] <jcastro> Heya Kaleo
[19:03] <jcastro> is setting hide_mode and use_strut in gconf still the way to turn off autohide in 2d?