=== ehw_ is now known as ehw [05:38] good morning [07:07] v [07:07] good morning === zyga is now known as zyga-afk === zyga-afk is now known as zyga === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === Guest3312 is now known as jbache [12:17] JohnLea: hey - Should the options in the Types filter in the files lens be sorted alphabetically, or should they be fixed as they are now? [12:17] JohnLea: and same question about the Genre filter in the music lens === API is now known as Guest61728 [12:29] hi all, does anyone successfully run unity-2d-launcher built out of source? the qml files aren't there it seems, am I missing somethinh? [12:31] kamstrup_; alphabetically, with the one exception that log titles that force the button to be double or triple width are always the last option [12:31] long ^ === Guest61728 is now known as apinheiro === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [12:36] JohnLea: but what is "long" - and what if there are many long titles? [12:37] JohnLea: i'll see if I can figure out with njpatel if/when the button sizes grow [12:45] JohnLea, have you test last unity [12:45] regarding fast drag and drop mouse move? [12:56] kamstrup_; long is defined as longer than can fit into the button length; because the Genre buttons are 3 abreast in the Music Lens, less text can fit into each button than in say the Category section of the app lens where the buttons are 2 abreast. Currently the only text that is too long to fit into a normally sized button is "Science & Engineering" in the Categories section of the App lens [12:57] kamstrup_; if there are many long titles, they are stacked on top of each other, again in A-Z order [12:57] andyrock; not yet, just got back today, I'll prob have some time to look tomorrow [12:58] JohnLea, np [13:08] JohnLea: but u3d doesn't expand buttons it always just ellipsises, is that a u2d feature? [13:11] Hey didrocks [13:12] hey davidcalle! [13:13] didrocks, do you know if there is a way to know if the user is on unity-2d or 3d? [13:14] davidcalle: quite geeky, but there is a way by dbus [13:14] davidcalle: would that fit? (installing d-feet) [13:15] davidcalle: depends, if it's on oneiric, for last week, there is the DESKTOP_SESSION which should be ubuntu for 3d users, and ubuntu-2d for 2d users, even if it fallbacked [13:15] The HorizontalRenderer is crashing on 3D, I'd like to detect if the user is on it and switch to the apporpriate renderer. I don't know a lot of dbus stuff, but I could try, yes. [13:15] Oh great! [13:16] Works perfectly thanks :) [13:16] davidcalle: hum, you mean, dynamically fallbacking for the user? [13:17] didrocks, just a condition in the daemon. As a workaround until the bug is fixed. [13:17] davidcalle: no, that's not possible [13:17] davidcalle: because we need to set values on session, gnome-session is trying to respawn required components as well [13:18] so replacing unity by unity-2d dynamically doesn't work [13:18] didrocks, so the lens-daemon will start before DESKTOP_SESSION is on the good value? [13:19] davidcalle: hum no, oh you mean, the HorizontalRenderer just crash in unity-2d and not 3d? [13:19] Just un 3d [13:19] davidcalle: I was thinking you wanted to restart another unity :) [13:19] in* [13:19] Nope :) [13:19] ok, in these case, yeah, rely on the env variable [13:19] didrocks, great, ty! [13:20] davidcalle: yw :) === zyga-afk is now known as zyga [13:31] didrocks, just tried, works perfectly, you rock. Unrelated question, will there be a lot of french in Orlando? ;) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:33] davidcalle: there will be some at least, the canonical french mafia, the ubuntu-fr president and maybe some more from ubuntu-fr :) are you coming? [13:33] didrocks, yep [13:33] davidcalle: excellent, will be nice to meet you there :-) [13:33] davidcalle: and orlando in november, is like summer in winter for us ;-) [13:34] didrocks, heh :-) [13:38] lamalex, hi [13:42] kamstrup_; no this should be a Unity 3d feature [13:42] kamstrup_; it might not be implemented yet though [13:42] JohnLea: it's not === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [14:35] davidcalle, hey [14:36] lamalex, I believe you are the music lens dev, right? [14:37] davidcalle, yes, i am! [14:37] what's up [14:37] lamalex, I was wondering : do you plan to use the Horizontal renderer to display the name of the artist next to song and album tiles? [14:39] davidcalle, no. the way it is is how design gave it to me [14:39] can you send me a picture of the horizonal renderer? i dont think ive actually see in [14:39] it [14:39] http://ubuntuone.com/4hJIk1CeAboeNXsKv0T1ZP [14:40] lamalex ^ [14:40] It's on unity-2D (horizontal renderer is buggy on 3d this week) [14:41] davidcalle: man, looking nice! [14:41] davidcalle: mind if I tweet that? [14:41] jcastro, hey thanks! Not at all. [14:41] oh wow that's nice [14:41] i'll talk to design [14:41] that would be better [14:42] lamalex, great :) [14:42] davidcalle: unfortunately stefano has been busy so he hasn't gotten to updating the askubuntu lens yet [14:43] lamalex, but be warned if you try : until the bug is fixed, opening the lens on 3d with the horizontal renderer crashes unity. [14:44] hey do lenses load dynamically now? or do you have to log out after you install it? [14:44] haha oh [14:44] well then no, that's a good reason why not to use it [14:44] njpatel, gord ^ [14:44] this dude is definitely right about horizontal renderer for the music lens [14:45] jcastro, porting from natty to oneiric should be rather easy now. I will make a branch for the askubuntu one if I have the time before Oneiric comes out. [14:45] lamalex, saw that yesterday, fixed in a branch waiting review [14:45] link? [14:46] davidcalle: easy? kenvandine told me it was basically a rewrite? [14:46] jcastro, don't know. I'm making packages right now. :) [14:46] if it's easy then whoo hoo! [14:47] hey njpatel, after we install a new lens do we still need to log out/in? [14:47] jcastro, right now, yeah [14:48] jcastro, can you file a bug about that and assign to me please? [14:48] I did last cycle [14:48] I can find it and ask harder. :) [14:48] hey davidcalle where is the code for thatbooks lens [14:48] gord, got a link to that branch? ill give you a review [14:50] lamalex, https://code.launchpad.net/~gordallott/unity/new_dash_icon_size/+merge/75036 [14:51] njpatel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/606277 [14:51] Ubuntu bug 606277 in unity "Allow dynamic Lens loading" [High,Triaged] [14:51] it doesn't let me assign it to you in the upstream Unity project [14:51] lamalex, https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/unity-books-lens/oneiric-first-draft Fresh fro today, but it's missing a lot of comments. [14:52] from [14:52] thanks [14:56] Hey Jono, got a PPA for you. [14:56] davidcalle, nice! [14:56] davidcalle, could you email me all the details and a screenshot [14:57] and let me know how you would like people to get involved and participate [14:57] jono, will do. [14:57] thanks davidcalle! [14:58] davidcalle: Stefano will update his eventually, it's the reddit one that is basically unmaintained if you're looking for one to work on next [14:59] jcastro, why not, I'm not a big reddit user myself, but I could give it a try. ;-) [15:00] https://launchpad.net/reddit-lens [15:18] jono, the bugs in http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/14/thunderbird-in-ubuntu-11-10/ did any of them end up in the mozilla bugzilla or did they get stuck in Launchpad? [15:20] jono: now that there is ligthning (the calendar) installed, you should add to the list that "accepting a meeting in the thunderbird view write "Event added to the calendar" without working btw [15:20] andreasn: not sure if you are interested in this kind of feedback on a popular extension ^ [15:36] didrocks: works for me [15:37] AlanBell: hum, that's weird, I tried twice today without any success [15:39] AlanBell: latest oneiric as well I guess? [15:40] actually no, I will test on Oneiric in a sec [15:44] AlanBell: ah, keep me posted! :-) [15:46] AlanBell, I got what you were looking for yesterday, a python lens with packaging : https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/unity-books-lens/oneiric-first-draft [15:47] awesome [15:47] AlanBell, the packaging is poor, I'm not used to debianazing stuff, but it builds. [15:48] I will have a go at writing the appmenu lens in it, my fork of the vala apps lens is a bit messy [15:48] AlanBell, nice! [15:52] andreasn, not sure if those are upstream in Mozilla [15:53] didrocks, is lightning now shipping in 11.10? [15:53] jono, I looked through the list, it seems one of them is [15:54] jono: it's there by default, with the issue I noticed aboved [15:59] oh cool [15:59] I will upgrade [16:00] man Unity is *really* crashy for me [16:00] whenever I use the Alt-Tab or Switcher [16:00] it is constantly crashing and restarting [16:05] let's try to ask this again: is anyone working on the "not visible cursor" in Oneiric login textbox? === zyga-afk is now known as zyga [16:20] gord, approved that merge [16:20] looks/works [16:30] hey davidcalle how did you get the author in your books lens? [16:31] is it in the comments? [16:31] doesn't show up for me in music [16:32] lamalex, Yep. Of course, you have to use the Horizontal renderer for it to show. [16:32] yah [16:32] hm weird.. [16:32] lamalex, awesome, thanks [16:33] lamalex : model.append (uri, icon, category,"text/html", title, author, uri) [16:34] lamalex, and I believe the last uri is the one used for a drag'n'drop [16:36] davidcalle, weird, this is what i get http://ubuntuone.com/737Zlvs3wUiHn8ex4eTq3t [16:40] njpatel, gord ^ possibility it's broken in the vala api? [16:51] lamalex, shouldn't be, i mean you are just appending info to a dee model right? [16:51] indeed [16:52] it's odd that it's not rendering it.. [16:52] lamalex, it needs to be in the comments field [16:52] it is [16:53] hrm maybe its a bug on my side, its been a while since i'v seen the horizontal renderer, gwibber was the only thing using it and gwibber was broke [16:53] maybe davidcalle was using 2d [16:53] i think it's a bug on your side [16:56] gord, is the renderer in unity proper? [16:56] (would assume so) [16:57] lamalex, yeah it was, fixed it, method was not virtual when it should of been [16:57] :) [16:57] rad [16:57] pushed to trunk? [16:58] i'm not that quick :P [16:58] damn, grandpa gord over here [17:05] lamalex, actually i need to make this change depend on the earlier change you reviewed (because that fixes the segfault in the horizontal renderer). so i can't merge this until tomorrow some time :( sorry [17:06] gord, just merge the branch from earlier [17:06] or heck ill merge your branch [17:06] lamalex, thats blocked on an earlier branch that needs some re-thinking [17:06] else i would [17:06] ha [17:06] ok [17:07] i'll get this up in a merge request so you have something you can build yourself and work with though, two minutes [17:11] lamalex, https://code.launchpad.net/~gordallott/unity/fix-horizontal-renderer/+merge/75227 :) [17:11] -> out [17:57] Trevinho: https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/unity-2d/panel_no_crash_at_logout/+merge/75233 :) [18:56] Good Kaleo it's working as I expected! :) [19:03] Heya Kaleo [19:03] is setting hide_mode and use_strut in gconf still the way to turn off autohide in 2d? === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson