=== Lubuntu is now known as LubuntuPowered [03:42] help [03:43] i just installed lubuntu 11-04 and when i put my flash drive in [03:43] it doesnt automatically mount [03:44] zebastianortis: Does it show up in the output of lsusb [03:45] Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0cf2:6225 ENE Technology, Inc. SD card reader (UB6225) [03:45] yep [03:45] but not available on the file manager [03:46] OK. First things first. An SD card reader is not what most people call a "flash drive"... Is your "flash drive" a usb flash drive, or is it an SD card? [03:47] its an adapter that has a usb port where you can slide in SD cards [03:47] my other laptop with a previous release of lubuntu mounts it immediately [03:49] but this isnt accessible [03:49] on here [03:50] OK. Do you see the SD Card that is inside it if you do cat /proc/partitions and if you do, what partition(s) are the SD card ones? [03:51] !pastebin [03:51] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/688071/ [03:53] I added two other external drives to see if they would mount but no [03:54] does dmesg say something? [03:54] So I'm guessing /dev/sdf is the SD card, and /dev/sdf1 is its partition. What does sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdf say? [03:54] if the reader is found, something must be wrong [03:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/688072/ [03:56] ^dmesg [03:56] mystical I/O Error [03:57] zebastianortis: What does sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdf say? [03:57] http://paste.ubuntu.com/688074/ [03:57] bioterror: Better to try to mount it than to look at errors that are hard to understand, IMO... [03:58] you can keep mounting ;) [03:58] zebastianortis: Oh, I guessed wrong, that is a 320GB partition... not likely to be the SD card. Did you a cat /proc/partitions before and after plugging it in, so you can tell which one(s) are from the SD card? [03:59] no i didnt [03:59] Can you try that now - cat /proc/partitions >withsdcard.txt [03:59] then remove the thing [03:59] what do i do now? this is strange i thought it should mount automatically, sure willdo [03:59] then cat /proc/partitions >nosdcard.txt [04:00] bash: /proc/partitions: Permission denied [04:00] Then you can look at each file and see what changed. Or even diff nosdcard.txt withsdcard.txt [04:00] the second one just sent me back to prompt [04:01] You probably mistyped the first one... like you left out the cat at the front, or something? [04:01] Two commands: [04:01] is this normal? there was an error when i installed lubuntu and i simply went on to reboot, maybe try to install without an internet connection again? [04:01] cat /proc/partitions >nosdcard.txt [04:01] cat /proc/partitions >withsdcard.txt [04:02] zebastianortis: we don't know yet. I don't have an SD card reader on a USB connector to test with. [04:02] nothing happens [04:02] back to prompt [04:02] rebooting and reinstalling is for Windows. Good Unix users figure out issues and fix them :) [04:02] OK, so do you now have two files withsdcard.txt and nosdcard.txt ? [04:02] by the way i created a oflder on the desktop when i click on it it says specified directory is not vaild [04:03] Why are you doing extra things? [04:03] no, nothing comes up when i type what you told me [04:03] it sends me back to prompt [04:03] "comes up"?? [04:03] Type ls [04:03] and see if the files are there. [04:03] Desktop Downloads nosdcard.txt Public Videos [04:03] Documents Music Pictures Templates withsdcard.txt [04:04] Ok, so they are there. [04:04] those are text files [04:04] Do look at them and see what is different between the nosdcard.txt one made without the SD installed, and the withsdcard.txt one made when the SD card *is* installed. [04:04] Yes, that is correct, they are text files. [04:04] Now read them :) [04:05] major minor #blocks name [04:05] 8 0 78184008 sda [04:05] 8 1 77668352 sda1 [04:05] 8 2 1 sda2 [04:05] 8 5 513024 sda5 [04:05] 8 32 3864576 sdc [04:05] 8 33 3860480 sdc1 [04:05] 8 80 312571224 sdf [04:05] 8 81 312568641 sdf1 [04:05] nosdcard [04:05] major minor #blocks name [04:05] 8 0 78184008 sda [04:05] 8 1 77668352 sda1 [04:05] 8 2 1 sda2 [04:05] 8 5 513024 sda5 [04:05] I didn't say flood the channel with them! [04:05] 8 32 3864576 sdc [04:05] 8 33 3860480 sdc1 [04:05] 8 80 312571224 sdf [04:05] 8 81 312568641 sdf1 [04:05] withsdcard [04:05] I see no difference. [04:06] So the machine is apparently seeing the reader, but not seeing the card within the reader. [04:06] is it safe to unplug my external hard drive [04:06] i dont want any info on it to ge tlost [04:06] umount any filesystems on it first, then unplug it if you wish. [04:06] how? [04:07] i thought 11.04 wasnt like bleeding edge [04:07] However you want. You can use sudo umount, or click buttons in pcmanfm, or any other way you know about and feel comfortable with. [04:07] Who said it was? [04:07] We have done NOTHING bleeding edge yet. [04:07] pcmanfm doesnt show any drives either mounted or unmounted [04:08] OK, so if you have no filesystems on the external drive that are mounted, you can unplug it. [04:08] i have my backups...ok i just unplugged it [04:09] OK. So now does cat /proc/partitions look shorter? No sdf and sdf1, I would guess? [04:09] well what i meant is that this doesnt seem to flow naturally, i stick a storage drive and it doesnt just pop up or appear mounted already [04:09] Right, and we are working on why... [04:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/688079/ [04:11] One step at a time. next step is to see whether the SD card is visible in /proc/partitions. Next guess is /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc1, so try sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc [04:11] zebastianortis: so far we are just looking at your system, trying to understand it. [04:11] We have made no changes. This is safe. DO not be afraid or discouraged. [04:12] I am not afraid or discouraged, i need to go to bed in about 40 min and i was expecting this install to just work out of the box after all lubuntu worked on the same computer before [04:13] ok nothing is happening [04:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/688082/ [04:14] Lubuntu appears to be working fine now, too, by the way. Let's see what sdc1 is... what does sudo dd if=/dev/sdc1 bs=1k count=100 | file - output? [04:15] I mean, if it installed improperly, then i can just reinstall again, unless this is expected behavior, if there is documentation on people having this problem already [04:15] well i dont have a prompt [04:15] Oh... type in your password and press enter :) [04:15] i closed the terminal [04:15] i did [04:15] it didnt do anything [04:16] OK... well, we need a terminal for the sudo dd if=/dev/sdc1 bs=1k count=100 | file - [04:16] So can you open a new one and try that command in there? [04:17] http://paste.ubuntu.com/688087/ [04:17] No, you typed a "command" sdc1. The command is [04:17] nothing happens after i type enter [04:17] sudo dd if=/dev/sdc1 bs=1k count=100 | file - [04:18] did that^typed enter [04:18] nothing happens [04:18] not even prompt [04:18] Hit Ctrl-C -- do you get the prompt back? [04:19] ^C^[c [04:19] when i was installing it i did get some error [04:19] Not in IRC :) Click on the Terminal window, then type ctrl-c [04:19] i checked the disk for defects first none found [04:19] yes i did that [04:19] and thats what happened [04:20] Oh... So still no prompt? Odd! [04:20] ok, something happened [04:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/688089/ [04:20] Oh, it started to read the SD card, but very slowly, and we killed it before it was done, I think?? [04:21] I am going to reinstall and come back tomorrow [04:21] I need to go to bed in twenty minutes [04:21] sorry [04:21] thanks for your patience [04:21] but at this time of day [04:21] it excedes mine [04:21] OK. if you do get any issues while installing, write them down exactly, so you can tell us what they were next time :) [04:42] hmm very odd error when using a usb keyboard on my laptop, it's like the keyboard layout is all over the place [04:42] so when i click on on shift or alt in shuts down my laptop [04:43] but writing with the laptops own keyboard is just fine [04:43] the weird part is that it worked fine before and then it just randomly began to behave in this odd way [04:43] like the keyboard has a life of its own [04:44] Soojin: Or the keyboard failed? :) Does the keyboard work fine on other machines? That might be a simple test to decide whether the issue is with the laptop, or with the keyboard. [04:45] yeah i tried with another keyboard, same thing [04:45] maybe batteries are low on both keyboards which makes it behave in this very odd way heh [04:45] but it doesnt really make much sense none the less. [04:46] Oh, they are both wireless? Try a wired keyboard, they are generally simpler and more reliable anyway. [04:46] yup i guess ill have to dust off the oldie === Unit193_ is now known as Unit193 [08:20] hello [08:21] ho do i change a icon theme from the terminal and not the GUI lxdappearance? [08:23] probably editing gtk-2.0's settings.ini [08:23] gtk-3.0 has it too [08:27] /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc [08:27] you have? [08:27] wait .. [08:27] /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini [08:28] i will started a VM with lxde, sorry [08:30] under /et/gtk-2.0/ i have only im-multiprocess.conf file [08:34] how can make? [08:35] someone with lubuntu could check if those are under .gconf [08:47] ubuntu 10.04 unable to boot into graphical interface, no magic from nomodeset :( [08:49] raj-darkmystery: beter ask on your videocard driver chanel. [08:50] ok JohnDoe_71Rus posting this there as well.. any guidance from here? [08:52] raj-darkmystery: what videocard model? [08:54] JohnDoe_71Rus, its intel [08:57] test [08:58] is there any news about lubuntu 11.10? [09:04] Intel corporation Sandy Brudge Integrated Graphics Controller, no graphics in ubuntu 10.04, nomodeset is also not able to solve the issue :( [09:05] try Driver "fbdev" in xorg.conf [09:15] ok JohnDoe_71Rus let me give it a try [09:19] many thank for the support, bye [09:19] q [11:48] hm [11:48] how do I get flash for chromium? [11:48] install flashplugin-nonfree [11:57] doesn't work [11:58] did you restart your chromium? [11:58] yup [12:04] aha [12:05] there's an error [12:05] 404 for the package libnspr4-0d_4.8.7-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [12:09] http://pastebin.com/PsU3JnVc [12:09] wow, 43 nicks! will someone please suggest a lightweight screen capture program or method for lubuntu? thanks! [12:10] you have in your rc.xml configured scrot to print screen button [12:10] i think he means video [12:10] http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/nspr/ [12:10] it's 0ubuntu3 there, while apt tries to get 0ubuntu1 [12:10] D: [12:11] should I manually get the deb and install it? [12:11] give it a shot [12:11] you can always purge it [12:11] but honestly, a motu has failed ;) [12:11] a motu? :p [12:12] !motu [12:12] motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [12:12] bindi, if you are talking about me...not video [12:13] bioterror: think i fucked up the system [12:13] or hm [12:14] * bkm has a lot of files named scrot* . that must have been what i used before [12:14] . [12:14] you've been pressing prtsc -button like a madman :D [12:15] hmm [12:16] "libnspr4-0d depends on package libnspr4 (= 4.8.7-ubuntu3); however: libnspr4 versio is 4.8.7-0ubuntu1 [12:16] i dont get this [12:16] purge that file, and repot it as a bug in launchpad ;) [12:16] hmmm [12:16] purge what? [12:16] i tried purging libnspr4 [12:16] libnspr4-0d [12:17] hmm [12:17] i'll just change the mirror [12:17] :-) [12:17] yeah [12:17] actually [12:17] fi.archive is outdated [12:17] I tried to upgrade to oneirc and it was missing files [12:18] can I just replace fi. with nothing? :p in sources.list [12:18] yo ucan remove it? [12:18] you [12:18] hmm? [12:18] fi. [12:18] yeah [12:19] replacing fi. with nothing [12:19] using nano [12:20] think i fucked up the packages good [12:20] or can't understand how to fix [12:20] reinstalling [12:20] the beauty of vbox ;> [12:21] no you did not [12:22] dpkg --remove --force-all that nprsdasd ;) [12:22] if that doesnt remove it, well what the heck then [12:22] already installing lol [12:23] you virtual machine guys, you never have nothing to lose [12:23] yup :D [12:24] gotta test things before i'm telling my friend to mess up his system [12:24] install took long enough on that p3 [12:26] installed fine now that i replaced the mirror [12:27] yeah, finnish is the leading ict country! ;D [12:27] finnish :D [12:27] finland [12:28] :> [12:28] http://pastebin.com/jNzU7AA9 wonder why my internet sucks... [12:29] a lot of hops there [12:29] yep [12:29] I trace my friends server that lies about 15km from my home [12:29] what [12:29] and that many hops? :D [12:29] and that trace goes to sweden and germany and back finland [12:30] :---------D [12:31] http://pastebin.com/aVe2R8p5 :) [12:31] yep, I get 5 hops from my shell [12:38] hmm [12:38] friend replaced his sources.list too [12:38] but he tried installing it before [12:38] Näillä paketeilla on tyydyttämättömiä riippuvuuksia: [12:38] flashplugin-nonfree : Riippuvuudet: flashplugin-installer mutta ei ole merkitty asennettavaksi [12:38] what do? :p [12:39] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer [12:48] works [12:48] anyway [12:48] when the system is shut down from the right corner button [12:49] it closes everything up, and then gets stuck on the "Lubuntu" screen [12:49] same that is shown during boot [12:49] we waited 5 mins but nothing [12:56] could be acpi related [13:07] bioterror: thx again. scrot seems to fit the lubuntu philosophy perfectly [14:39] hi [15:38] helo guys [15:39] i wanna reduce my console screens those console when u hit ctrl+alt + F1 [15:39] how ca i do it [15:57] kosaidpo: resolution in concole& [15:57] ? [15:58] JohnDoe_71Rus: ?? [15:59] kosaidpo: smoll font and more lines in console ctrl+alt+f(x) [15:59] *small === bodhizazen is now known as bodhi_zazen === eyes_ is now known as EyesIsServer [22:08] Hello,is the lubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso supposed to have a graphical live environment? I only ask because I only keep getting liek a tty or something [22:29] NoobCp: have you checked both the iso & cd via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CheckISO_CD#A11.04_64_bit_Community_Edition ? [22:29] Yep, both worked out fine [22:30] Reading around seems to indicate the 64 bit version is rather experimental at this stage anyway so I'm starting to think I was expecting too much [22:31] the 11.04 works, many people use it. [22:32] I'll check if the problem presists with the i386.iso [22:33] NoobCp: please pop a request onto the mailing list via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs [22:33] a request for? [22:34] a request for someone to get some information off you as to why your install seems to fail? [22:34] well, it's not the installation that has had a chance to fail, but the live disc session [22:38] when you say 'kind of' tty - is it a tty asking for login, or just a flashing cursor? [22:41] My fear is that it is a video card issue, in which case you would need to interrupt grub as it boots. [22:41] Does it drop you to BusyBox? [22:42] no login request there was just an info prompt on how to use sudo and get help on sudo and just an ubuntu@ubuntu yadda ~ something prompt [22:42] err, I haven't had the chance to learn to recognize the face of BusyBox I'm afraid [22:43] and I don't recall reading welcome to busybox anywhere [22:44] Looks to drop to TTY, try to login (if you are not already) and startlubuntu to see if it will start the desktop [22:45] I see, I took a wild hit at startlxde instead heh, figures [22:46] You may also need to start X (X might need sudo, don't remember fully) [22:49] well with startlxde it complained about packages that need to be installed for it to work. In any case, I'll reboot to test the 32 bit and 64 bit discs one more time [22:49] NoobCp: what did it say about startlubuntu ? [22:50] ehh something about lxde-common or something that similar needs to be installed? don't remember [22:50] if there's even a package by that name... [22:50] oh, I haven't tried startlbuntu [22:50] sorry [22:50] I suspect there is an issue wit reading the cd. [22:50] err, I'll head off to try just that [23:04] I take it that's your only computer? [23:04] right lubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso also has the same problem [23:04] yeah it is =C [23:05] startlubuntu do anything for you? [23:05] nope, nothing at all, startx seemed to start x in the background or something judging by the commentary [23:06] No text or anything? What was the start x command you typed? [23:06] just startx [23:07] and no, startlubuntu caused no reaction, straight to the next terminal line waiting for input with the friendly ubuntu@ubuntu:~ $ line [23:08] of course I only just now thought of checking for signs of life in alternate ttys [23:13] Oh, and for reference, earlyer today, current ubuntu 11.04 disc loaded a live session perfectly fine [23:15] So Ubuntu 11.04 (64bit?) works fine where Lubuntu 11.04 doesn't boot live? [23:16] yep, it was infact an ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64 image [23:17] and yes, that's what I'm finding here [23:18] Try in TTY1 sudo X and in TTY2 startlubuntu Long shot at best, but you might be able to install via !mini [23:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall ? [23:19] Yes [23:21] !mini [23:21] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [23:21] Afk for a while though [23:21] k [23:33] NoobCp: what are you trying to do?.. (sorry, haven't really been following) [23:33] Trying to test lubuntu before installing it [23:33] NoobCp: you need a live cd [23:33] or live usb.. [23:34] I have three live cds, two of them lubuntu, neither working, and a working ubuntu live cd, so somewhere between them there is a problem [23:34] do you ahve either 1. a blank CD, or a thumb drive of about 2gigs?(1gig may work.. but it may be slow) [23:34] haven't tried to set up an usb booter yet [23:35] hmm, when you say "not working" whats it doing"? [23:35] the "try lubuntu without installing" option fails to produce a desktop envirionment, leaves me in a tty [23:36] in both the 64 and 32 bit version of the lubuntu disc [23:36] ok, whats the TTY say?.. usually there will be an error message there [23:36] ahh, no errors whatsoever, instead [23:36] .. [23:36] i have a hard time believing that [23:36] I get a welcome to ubuntu -version- and a regular bash prompt [23:37] that doesn'te ven make sense [23:37] ubuntu@ubuntu:~ $ or how ever that goes [23:37] I can try pthotographing it for ya next time I try it [23:38] the screen didn't say something ike "busybox".. or something like that? [23:38] nope, I checked for that, none of that [23:38] oh, and another clue [23:38] the starting bluetooth [ok] and doing something else [ok] lines remain at the top of the screen initially.... [23:39] hmm [23:39] did you download 11.10? [23:39] cuz i've had that issue w/ 11.10 [23:40] Nope, the files are labelled as 11.04 and the md5sum-s were matching as expected [23:40] dunno [23:40] try booting the ISO in vbox or vmware, see if it works [23:43] k, getting vbox now [23:46] k, looks like setting up vbox to try things out that way is gonna have to wait for another day. Thanks for all the help all and see you later