[10:28] <Laibsch> Can somebody with at least dual-head monitor setup please verify that bug 379382 affects oneiric as well?
[10:30]  * Laibsch guesses the 8th is long past
[10:31] <Laibsch> A channel op please update the topic
[13:58] <Alexqw> Can someone take a look at bug 815895?  There's already a fix released upstream by Debian and I'm willing to test out packages.
[14:25] <Alexqw> Which channel should I be in to talk with someone about an apt bug?
[14:26] <trinikrono> Alexqw: well this should be the place
[14:26] <trinikrono> if you are pasting bugs if you have to put the whole url
[14:26] <trinikrono> ubot is not working :((
[14:26] <Alexqw> ahh, ok.
[14:26] <Alexqw> This is the bug in question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/815895
[14:30] <trinikrono> Alexqw: you reported the bug or are trying to triage it?
[14:31] <Alexqw> triage it
[14:32] <Alexqw> Yeah, this bug seems to keep on being re-introduced
[14:32] <Alexqw> Lucid is affected by a similar bug that won't be fixed due to an ABI break
[14:32] <Alexqw> So it's a bit frustrating to see it reintroduced in natty
[14:35] <trinikrono> hmmmm
[14:35] <Alexqw> I'm willing to do whatever legwork is necessary to help fix this
[14:36] <trinikrono> Alexqw: you have repo with files so big to test?
[14:37] <Alexqw> yeah, but it is internal.  We're deploying this software in a private repo since it's research software that doesn't have a license to redistribute it
[14:38] <Alexqw> I've already bumped it up to the compression, which was fine for lucid since the bug was a problem for files over 2.5 GB
[14:38] <Alexqw> but apparently this natty bug rears its head at a lower value.  My package is 2.1GB
[14:39] <trinikrono> o.o
[14:39] <Alexqw> heh
[14:41] <trinikrono> great, would you be willing to test this in oneiric
[14:41] <trinikrono> i see they are using
[14:41] <trinikrono> apt | 0.8.16~exp5ubuntu7
[14:41] <trinikrono> and natty had apt | 0.8.13.2ubuntu2
[14:42] <Alexqw> ummmm.... yeah, I'll setup a VM real quick
[14:42] <Alexqw> give me a bit
[14:42] <trinikrono> you know how to use rmadison Alexqw?
[14:42] <trinikrono> well about it
[14:42] <Alexqw> havn't heard of rmadison
[14:42] <trinikrono> you can type like rmadison <package name>
[14:43] <trinikrono> and it tells you the version of the package
[14:43] <trinikrono> in the different ubuntu releases
[14:43] <trinikrono> so you can see if the version changed
[14:43] <Alexqw> ahh, that is nice
[14:43] <trinikrono> if it works in oneiric we will put it as fix released
[14:43] <Alexqw> ok.  and then we can discuss backporting to natty?
[14:44] <trinikrono> they are pages that deals with those but most of time it can be very difficult
[14:44] <trinikrono> let me show you
[14:44] <Alexqw> yeah, I know SRUs can be a pain
[14:46] <trinikrono> yes
[14:46] <trinikrono> since it is a SRU and not a backport
[14:46] <Alexqw> went through the same thign for this bug in Lucid, and the conclusion was no
[14:46] <trinikrono> :D
[14:46] <trinikrono> well test in oneiric and see if it gets lucky
[14:47] <Alexqw> yeah, it'll take me a few minutes
[14:47] <trinikrono> so it worked maverick?
[14:47] <trinikrono> in maverick?
[14:47] <Alexqw> no idea
[14:47] <Alexqw> My lab is all on lucid, except for two machines which will be on natty
[14:47] <Alexqw> they have to be natty for driver reasons
[14:48] <Alexqw> We prefer riding the LTS releases, but it's not always an option
[14:48] <trinikrono> ok so which version of ubuntu was working?
[14:48] <trinikrono> since you said lucid did not work also
[14:49] <Alexqw> well Lucid has a bug that caps it at 2.5 GB, which will not be fixed, but I worked aroudn the problem by going crazy with compression
[14:49] <Alexqw> natty has a different bug, that makes it even lower
[14:49] <Alexqw> It shoudl work it maverick, but I havn't tried it
[14:49] <trinikrono> ah
[14:49] <trinikrono> i understand now
[14:51] <trinikrono> Alexqw:
[14:51] <trinikrono> look at this
[14:51] <trinikrono> in the debian bug report
[14:51] <trinikrono> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=632271
[14:51] <Alexqw> looking...
[14:52] <trinikrono> it says that the version which is fixed is this one  apt (0.8.16~exp3) experimental; urgency=low
[14:52] <trinikrono> and that is one that oneiric has
[14:52] <trinikrono> so you would be testing the correct version :))
[14:53] <Alexqw> heh
[14:53] <Alexqw> yeah, installing,s o we'll find out
[14:53] <trinikrono> ok goodluck i am heading off to work, i hope someone from bugcontrol comes online and takes it from there
[14:53] <Alexqw> alright.  thanks for your help
[14:54] <Alexqw> I appreciate it
[14:54] <trinikrono> i subscribed to the bug :D
[14:54] <Alexqw> :-)
[15:38] <bdmurray> nigelb: are you around?
[15:38] <nigelb> bdmurray: yes
[15:39] <bdmurray> I've always thought it'd be neat to show the bug title on mouseover.  Like in the description of bug 843911
[15:40] <nigelb> It is certainly possible with javascript. I'll look to see how that can be done :)
[15:40] <bdmurray> so you'd mouseover 743359 and it'd tell you what its title is
[15:41] <bdmurray> nigelb: cool, thanks!
[15:41] <nigelb> np!
[16:00] <nigelb> bdmurray: bug 849121 :)
[16:03] <nigelb> Hrm, no bot? :(
[16:58] <bil21al> om26er: can u tell me how can i get full command on sudo service command which is used in terminal is there any notes that should read ??
[16:59] <om26er> i dont understand what you mean
[16:59] <om26er> you might want to ask in the channel without me referred so everyone could answer
[17:00] <bdmurray> man service might tell you something
[17:00] <bdmurray> does anybody miss the greasemonkey script for adding tags to a bug report?
[17:01] <bil21al> i think that u are a good triager and i  have seen ur bugs i think u shouldknw that but u cant ok its ok om26er:
[17:03] <bil21al> any body else know about sudo service ,that command we use in termial like sudo apt-get.... can  any body tell me about its notes or ant data??
[17:05] <bil21al> any data
[17:05] <bil21al> ??
[17:06] <micahg> bil21al: man sudo
[17:07] <bil21al> micahg r u asking or telling me something???
[17:08] <bdmurray> He's telling you to use the command 'man sudo' in a terminal
[17:09] <hggdh> bdmurray: yes, I do miss it
[17:09] <bil21al> ok
[17:10] <JoshuaL> Can someone set the importance of bug 847078 to low please?
[17:19] <Laibsch> Can somebody with at least dual-head monitor setup please verify that bug 379382 affects oneiric as well?
[17:34] <om26er> seems the bot is on vacation?
[17:34] <JoshuaL> So it seems
[17:35] <Exodus> Good evening
[17:35] <Exodus> I recently requested to join the BugSquad
[17:35] <Exodus> I'm looking for mentoring
[17:36] <Exodus> I assume that is the procedure for joining
[18:28] <kristopher> Hi. Just curious who's using 11.10 beta 1 and if they have experienced (ICS) Internet Connection Sharing issues when sharing through LAN????
[18:30] <kristopher> 11.04 worked well but I jumped ahead to the beta of 11.10 just to see what works and what dosent on one of my computers. ICS is giving me problems and want to see if the development community is aware of it since there arent a whole lot of people out there anymore that use ICS.
[18:30] <kristopher> any tips on whether the beta is missing something or ware to report would be grateful
[18:31] <lgp171188> Suggesting that the importance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/848115 to be set to high if it is confirmed by users other than the janitor who already has. Thanks.
[18:44] <JoshuaL> I can confirm that bug so it should indeed be set to high.
[18:53] <bdmurray> JoshuaL: if you can confirm it can you comment on that bug to that effect?
[18:54] <bdmurray> Does the fact that hggdh want the button tagging fix justify a lot of work or not ....
[18:55] <hggdh> bdmurray: well, it does *not*, of course :-)
[18:55] <JoshuaL> bdmurray, sorry but what do you mean? (english is not my first language).
[18:56] <bdmurray> JoshuaL: add a comment to the bug saying you can confirm it
[18:56] <kristopher> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/849297 can anyone look into this and confirm it. this is my first bug with ubuntu havent reported the log yet but its for 11.10 beta 1 it involves ICS
[18:56] <kristopher> let me know if theres anything wrong with the post
[19:04] <bdmurray> hggdh: damn because I did it
[19:05] <bdmurray> maybe I just won't commit it
[19:05] <hggdh> bdmurray: why, thank you, kind sir
[19:05] <hggdh> NOOOOOOO
[19:07] <hggdh> kristopher: not enough data... let's get it right, shall we?
[19:08] <kristopher> ill add the log
[19:09] <hggdh> more than than. I am unsure on which machine is running what; I understand one of them is a wireless connection, the other wired to the first; so the wireless machine is doing the ICS, correct?
[19:10] <hggdh> so. Which one keeps losing the connection? the wireless, or the wired?
[19:10] <kristopher> yes the wireless computer handles ics via ethernet but the wireless computer reports the error
[19:11] <hggdh> OK. So you might want to collect the network-manager logs for the wireless machine, and add them to the bug
[19:11] <kristopher> the wireless computer in which ics is set has the issue
[19:12] <hggdh> OK. I just adjusted the bug's package to network-manager -- 'ubuntu
[19:12] <hggdh> ' is really not correct
[19:13] <hggdh> so now please run, after you see the issue happening, 'apport-collect 849297'
[19:13] <kristopher> ok i got it set i connected ethernet it said wired connection established now its going nuts saying wired connection connected and disconnected
[19:14] <kristopher> how do i grab the log
[19:14] <hggdh> kristopher: run, from a terminal, 'apport-collect 849297'
[19:14] <kristopher> it used to give me an error now i need to get it via terminal not sure of the comd
[19:14] <kristopher> thanks
[19:15] <hggdh> kristopher: and I set the bug to private, until you check there is no private data shown
[19:17] <kristopher> i just sent the data
[19:19] <kristopher> how does it look hggdh i sent the data and would u recommend making it public it is showing an error
[19:20] <hggdh> looking
[19:57] <bil21al> any body tell me how to unsubcribe the ubuntu questions??
[20:49] <nigelb> bdmurray: HA. I think I'll end up fixing the bug today. But I need to write javascript tests which is yucky.
[22:27] <nigelb> bdmurray: It works \o/ https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/launchpad/bug-title-849121/+merge/75267
[22:27] <nigelb> I need to make it prettier and not kill kittens, but it works :D
[23:15] <bdmurray> RedSingularity: please don't tag bugs bugpattern-written until the pattern is committed ... or did you not do that?
[23:17] <RedSingularity> bdmurray: I did do that with one.  Which bug?
[23:17] <bdmurray> bug 845365
[23:18] <RedSingularity> no bot today?
[23:18] <bdmurray> I guess its on holiday
[23:18] <bdmurray> hggdh: do you know who handles the bug bot?
[23:18] <RedSingularity> lol let me look
[23:18] <bdmurray> Well it was either you or the bzr plugin and if you aren't using the plugin ....
[23:19] <RedSingularity> bdmurray: yeah it was me.  So dont tag it until you approve the merge?
[23:20] <bdmurray> RedSingularity: I wrote a bzr plugin that handles the tagging automatically so I will just do it
[23:20] <RedSingularity> bdmurray: very good.  Thanks for the heads up.
[23:21] <bdmurray> there pattern merged \o/
[23:22] <RedSingularity> great :)
[23:24] <bdmurray> Oh and master bug for a pattern shouldn't be private as people wouldn't be able to see it.
[23:25] <hggdh> bdmurray: no, I do not know who handles the bot nowadays, unfortunately. I do not even know *which* bot is on (or should be on)
[23:26] <charlie-tca> Should be ubot2, and it is broken today
[23:26] <hggdh> it is off, actually.
[23:26] <hggdh> hum
[23:26] <bdmurray> hggdh: you should write a new one then
[23:26] <hggdh> charlie-tca: thank you sir
[23:26]  * hggdh flees
[23:26] <charlie-tca> I agree with bdmurray
[23:27]  * hggdh digs a deep hole, and jumps in
[23:28] <charlie-tca> hggdh: you are welcome. The bot owners been trying to fix it all day
[23:29] <hggdh> charlie-tca: who are they? Which channel? so that I will know where to knock next time
[23:29] <charlie-tca> #ubuntu-irc or #ubuntu-ops
[23:29] <charlie-tca> tsimpson
[23:29] <hggdh> thank you
[23:29] <charlie-tca> yw
[23:33] <tsimpson> if ubot2 ever comes back, just /kick ubot5 out
[23:33] <hggdh> tsimpson: thank you, will do
[23:34] <charlie-tca> tsimpson: thank you very much
[23:36] <hggdh> 6~/me tests
[23:36] <hggdh> bug 845365
[23:37] <hggdh> yay!
[23:46] <trinikrono> great ubot came back :D
[23:51] <trinikrono> hggdh: if you are still there, i have a few things : the first being i believe i was expired from the mentorship group lol, Secondly i sent in my bugcontrol application finally but i havent heard back i responded to a email i got about it
[23:52] <hggdh> trinikrono: yes, I saw your response email -- it is in my list of Things To Do; I should get there this evening, or tomrrow morning
[23:52] <hggdh> trinikrono: and for the mentorship, I do not think you need it...
[23:52] <trinikrono> about the mentorship group though i have a few ideas
[23:52] <hggdh> yes!
[23:53] <trinikrono> for global jam
[23:53] <hggdh> can you please email them to me? I want to collate all answers, and republish them
[23:53] <trinikrono> okie
[23:53] <trinikrono> because i cant email the list anymore i believe
[23:54]  * hggdh goes AFK for 20 min -- watering the lawn, with temps above 40C outside...
[23:54] <hggdh> yeah. Go live in Dallas, fantastic city. Yeah.
[23:56]  * charlie-tca is thinking at least he still has buildings standing...
[23:57]  * trinikrono my country is under a state of emergency lol