[09:47] <TLE> Hallo everyone, does anyone know a workaround for the problem with some the keyboard shortcuts not working in gtranslator under unity?
[10:08] <dpm> hey TLE, no sorry, I usually use vim when translating offline
[10:09] <dpm> the best thing might be to file a bug, as I could imagine that if it's a unity issue it might affect other applications
[10:15] <TLE> dpm: yeah, there ar other related bug reports already. I'm not sure it affects other languages because as far as I can tell it is simply a shortcut conflict
[10:16] <TLE> gtranslator uses for accelrator combinations that are reserved for unity and/or compiz
[10:17] <TLE> It's a little annoying because one of the shortcuts that does not work is "jump to next untranslated or fuzzy" which I would be using all the time when updating gnome modules ;)
[10:34] <dpm> TLE, out of interest, which are the conflicting ones?
[10:35] <TLE> ctrl-shift-page_up and -page_down
[10:37] <TLE> vim is oldschool ;) I usually use emacs, but everytime I translate in emacs I get to miss translations library functionality
[10:38] <TLE> and then it is the same routin, when I have translated enough in emacs I get to miss it enough so that I start considering actually implementing it myself
[10:39] <TLE> then I start having a look at the elisp code for the po-file mode and then I want to scratch my eyes out to make the pain go away
[10:39] <TLE> *G*
[10:39] <dpm> ;-)
[10:39] <dpm> yeah, I'm not trying to be oldskool, I usually favour gui applications, but I just got used to vim + the po editor plugin :) Whenever I had to use a graphical po editor I chose poedit, as I could work much better with the keyboard shortcuts, I've always found the gtranslator ones awkward and difficult to remember
[10:42] <TLE> yeah, the shortcuts does also bother me a bot, but there was some reason why I have stuck with it
[13:09] <trijntje> How long before NonLangPackTranslationDeadline shoud translations in LP be done to be sure they get included?
[15:55] <dpm> kelemengabor, I might be a few minutes late for the call, I'm wrapping up another conversation
[15:55] <dpm> andrejz seems not to be there yet. Hopefully my changing of the date didn't confuse him
[16:02] <kelemengabor> dpm: re, I'm ready
[16:03] <kelemengabor> altough I'm a little ill, so don't be surprised by some random coughing :\
[16:03] <dpm> kelemengabor, same here really, I can't believe I got a cold in summer... :\
[16:04] <kelemengabor> me neither :(
[16:04] <dpm> let's wait for a couple of minutes to see if andrejz comes up, and if not let's start without him
[16:05] <kelemengabor> TLE: wanna join the fun? :)
[16:05] <dpm> ah, good point :)
[16:10] <trijntje> How long before NonlangpackTranslationDeadline shoud translations in LP be done to be sure they get included?
[16:12] <kelemengabor> trijntje: one day is usually enough
[16:12] <dpm> trijntje, there is no concrete hour
[16:12] <dpm> as it's a matter of developers from different packages doing the uploads
[16:12] <dpm> so it cannot really be synced
[16:13] <dpm> kelemengabor, ok, let's roll
[16:13] <kelemengabor> okay
[16:15] <trijntje> kelemengabor, dpm: thanks, I was worried it might be something like a week or so, one day is fine
[16:32] <dpm> kelemengabor, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning
[16:33] <kelemengabor> dpm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/688445/
[16:43] <dpm> thanks a lot kelemengabor
[16:43] <kelemengabor> you are welcome :)
[16:51] <kelemengabor> strange, bug 839880 was fixed and released, but the new strings are not showing up in LP
[16:53] <kelemengabor> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/language-selector/oneiric/view/head:/debian/rules <-looks okay too
[17:05] <kelemengabor> dpm: oh yes, I know now what I wanted to ask: is there any special reason why app-install-data-partner is not translatable? Like partners explicitly said they don't need our mistranslations or madness like this?
[17:10] <dpm> kelemengabor, :-) I think the only reason is because no one has raised the need for this. I see no reason (unless partners were oposed to it) that they could not use the same infrastructure (i.e. LP) to get their package descriptions translated by the community
[17:11] <dpm> we've got an internal list for partners. Let me ask it and come back to you
[17:11] <kelemengabor> okay, I'll see if I can port my magic scripts from a-i-d-ubuntu
[17:11] <kelemengabor> great, thanks!
[17:12] <kelemengabor> basically, their programs are the only ones in s-c that have no translatable short descriptions
[17:12] <dpm> yeah, I agree it would make sense
[17:13] <kelemengabor> aside from purchasable applications, but those don't even have an app-install-data-anything package, AFAIK
[17:15] <dpm> those apps' descriptions might prove more difficult to handle because of the way purchases are implemented. Basically the other applications come from packages in some Ubuntu archive, but commercial apps are provided as individual (i.e. per-app) PPAs. When you buy one, you basically obtain a subscription to a private PPA
[17:15] <dpm> so I'm not sure how to best extract the descriptions
[17:16] <kelemengabor> that would be a little tricky, yes :(