[00:03] I just used super anti spyware and it found all kinds of threats and I removed them and had to reboot. I hope the computer over there comes back up with the same IP or I'll have to do some traveling tomorrow :-/ [00:05] whoo hooo it's back up. Thank goodness [00:06] Now I'm confident to try your suggestion canthus [00:15] rebooting now. with me luck ;-) [00:18] it booted :-) [00:19] still getting redirected [00:20] daaaaaaaaaaaaaaangggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [00:23] Windows sucks!!!! [00:42] someones going to have to play the format song [00:44] I feel like I could shoot the people that do this crap!!! [00:45] rrittenhouse: hope he can find his restoration disk :-/ [00:46] I don't see why he just doesn't put ubuntu on it, it's what he's running on his home computer [00:48] dmcglone: the last time I had an issue with redirects, that's what I eneded up having to do.... Reformat, reinstall. :/ [00:48] I've done everything suggested except for re-installing the NIC drivers. If I'm gonna do that I might as well reformat [00:49] give that a shot first, then watch it for a few days. it might be all ou need. [00:49] When I reformat, I'll make sure that only I get admin privalages [00:50] Heh [00:50] I even tried Microsoft essentials anti-virus. Hmmm don't you think they'd know more about their product than anyone else... [00:50] guess not :-/ [00:51] after I reformat, I'll make sure I back up the registry [00:52] I hate feeling so helpless and vulurnable [00:54] * canthus13 fixed that feeling by switching to Linux. :) [00:54] Well if he can't find his software, he's going to have to unless he wasn't to shell out a bunch of money [00:58] canthus13: +1 [00:59] although I must say unity sucks ass. [00:59] rrittenhouse: ...which is why I use openbox. :) [00:59] I'm running Gnome 3 and I like it [01:00] hmmm [01:00] never heard of openbox, till now [01:00] I'm loving it. :) [01:01] canthus13: -desktop is dead though? [01:03] Unit193: for the moment. I suddenly had a million things going on irl. :/ [01:03] * canthus13 will get back on it and make another attempt at driving it once he's gotten his life settled down. [01:03] canthus13: Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was for now or totally [01:03] I didn't read all of the scrollback, but dmcglone, try teamviewer? instead of remote desktop or something...it doesn't matter the IP, each computer is assigned an "ID" number, and you can set it up so you can use the same password each time, it is cross platform as well [01:03] sorry. I really should post. [01:04] canthus13: my other box came! I have my bike all set up except for the battery, which is still charging :) [01:04] It's mostly you and SMK (Had stl, but I'll see if I can get him again) [01:05] Thanks Cheri703 I will also look into that. Right now I'm rummaging through the running services to see if I can see anything suspicious [01:05] Cheri703: Woo! Awesome! [01:05] good luck :/ have you tried super anti spyware and/or avast? I have the best luck with those [01:06] its useless imo - youll never know if you clear it all off or not [01:06] the redirection might go away but who knows what else might be left [01:06] canthus13: I'm going to record some video once I get it all set up and do a test drive :) [01:06] I'll send it to you [01:06] I just tried super anti spyware with no avail, but I used the quick scan. I'm going to try the full scan here in a bit [01:08] rrittenhouse: I was able to get the computer working good again using the restore tool. I'm thinking I should try that again but use a much much earlier date :-/ [01:08] at first this computer wouldn't even boot into windows [01:09] gilbert: http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2011/09/msg00029.html [01:09] If he could find the disk I'd be able to start in safe mode and eliminate the problem [01:09] dmcglone: You can still never be 100% sure its clean imo :) [01:09] not eliminate it, but most likely find it [01:09] I agree rrittenhouse, but my hands are tied :-/ [01:10] ah ok [01:10] is this your boss'es computer or something? haha [01:10] No, a local car dealership :-/ [01:14] ahhh ok [01:14] downloading teamviewer now [01:14] thats what ive been using [01:15] I'm tired of traveling, from now on im going to start setting things up for remote access [01:15] I always thought it was easer to just go to them, but after these past 2 days, I've thought differently [01:16] dmcglone: I always do complete [01:17] Cheri, both computers need teamviewer right? [01:17] yeah [01:17] The linux one runs on wine [01:17] Ok, I'm installing on the xp machine right now [01:17] and to set up the "use the same password each time" on the one you are connecting TO you have to go into options and set it up under the security tab [01:19] Ok :-) [01:40] so far I'm really not liking this teamviewer [01:44] I also didn't like it and just stuck with UltraVNC on windows and something else on Linux [02:17] dmcglone: what don't you like about it? [03:34] trying out openbox [03:34] might be a little too basic for my tastes [03:34] at least by default [03:34] I just wish Unity had some config options [03:35] Take a look at the simi guide on the forums [03:35] Take a look at this all http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10950331#post10950331 [03:36] ty [03:36] lxappearance-obconf is something I like [03:42] I installed it..but what is it? lmao [03:43] A plugin for lxappearance to modify openbox themes [03:43] I mean it says its a plugin to modify openbox themes... I installed the obconf already before that [03:43] hmm [03:43] Choose themes with that and not just other settings [03:44] with the lxappearance-obconf cmd or am I required to have obconf installed too [03:45] Might as well [03:45] after its installed what is supposed to change? It still looks the same. [03:46] Open it by running lxappearance from terminal [03:46] oh ok i have to install that [03:46] gotcha :) [03:47] * Unit193 randomly wishs that a lubotu was here :P [03:47] :) brb i have to switch back to unity [03:48] i have to get a paper done before 3am..i'll mess with this tomorrow haha [03:49] Yes, best to get paper first [03:59] back :) Yeah paper must get done first, === starkittn is now known as starkittn_gnite [04:21] canthus13: Should we !away or !nick her? ;) === starkittn_gnite is now known as starkittn [04:22] hmmn? [04:22] Sorry, joke [04:23] Unit193: Heh. [04:24] I am always starkittn [04:24] maybe I should be sunkittn when I sleep === starkittn is now known as sunkittn === sunkittn is now known as starkittn [04:40] Back? [04:46] uh huh [04:46] wasn't sleepy [04:47] Did he get you on irssi? That mean you're using away_nick === starkittn is now known as sunkittn [05:31] Bloody freaking useless POC called a modem... [06:04] But you have to love "Smith and Jones" :D === Unit193_ is now known as Unit193 [14:30] Morning Ohio [14:30] morning [14:30] so the laptop I won...seems like it retails for like $1k [14:30] :D [14:31] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834157498&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Notebooks-_-Hewlett-Packard-_-34157498 [14:34] it's aparently only a 12.1"...but it doesn't really seem like it [14:39] I took my first e-bike ride :) it was pretty sweet. I am going to go for a longer ride tomorrow :) still acquiring pieces that are needed [14:43] ebike? [14:43] anyone else try out 11.10 beta1? [14:44] Immediately after install, everything works fine, but a full-upgrade wants to remove libreoffice cause of broken depends [14:45] thafreak: www.e-bikekit.com got one of those and put it on my bike [14:45] so i tried just installing some updates here and there instead of full-upgrade...now the ui is borked :) [14:46] interesting... Cheri703 [14:46] is this for primary transportation or for fun? [14:46] I'm going to be bike commuting to my new job (after this week) [14:46] primary [14:46] cool [14:46] and fun :) [14:46] how far is the job? [14:47] ~3 miles [14:47] nice [14:47] well, for another month or so ;-) [14:47] but this town is HILLY and I have a blood pressure thing and my bike isn't ideal for dealing with it [14:47] I saw you mention it on here but forgot to ask about the new job...what are you going to be doing? [14:47] nah, I plan to commute year round as much as possible [14:47] :/ it'll be a call center doing cell phone customer support (billing and tech support a bit) [14:48] not excited about it, but it's a job, and benefits after 60 days [14:49] well that's good atleast...sorry it's call center work...those are tough jobs [14:54] yeah, I've done it before, but that was sales, so hopefully it's better than that [14:55] it pays reasonably for this area, so...eh [14:55] and the shift will be good, 4-12, and then 4:30-12:30 later [14:55] in this case, they sort of want to talk with you, at least [14:55] yeah [16:37] wow, lots of irc activity in the last day :) [17:06] o/ gilbert [17:09] gilbert: I applied to DM-ness [17:15] oo [17:16] I'm officially heading upstream, like the salmon before me [17:18] Are you going to maintain a specific package or how does it work upstream? [17:20] rrittenhouse: I maintain 3 now, with 1 more pending. [17:20] rrittenhouse: this is bascially my upload rights section of the show [17:20] for those packages which have me as maint or co-maint and DMUA=yes [17:21] nice :) congrats [17:21] rrittenhouse: it's not over yet, I need advocates [17:21] ^^ Made a/is making a package management system [17:21] Unit193: Ja, I have :) [17:21] Oh thats right I read his blog about it some the other day [17:21] sure 'nuf - Syn :) [17:21] it's sorta working, my system's almost bootable [17:22] :) [17:22] I was checking out who all was in the team these days before I jumped in irc [17:22] nice [17:22] it shows up in grub, but initscripts are emptyy [17:22] empty * [17:22] just busy work now or do you know what the issues are? [17:22] I should look at his blog more... I'm too used to apt-get now :P [17:22] so it'll boot and hang on post-initrd handoff [17:23] paultag: awesome! [17:23] rrittenhouse: I'm working on it, but I'm holding until after I finish 1) debian work, and 2) next Fluxbox release [17:23] rrittenhouse: then I'll Syn until I repeat again [17:23] ah [17:23] gilbert: I'm stoked :) - http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2011/09/msg00033.html [17:23] fluxbuntu is sadly just about dead with no hope :/ [17:23] paultag: i'll send a complimentary reply when i have a chance :) [17:24] gilbert: thanks :3 [17:24] I want to start donating time if possible to Ubuntu. It was always so confusing getting started before but I think it will be easier this time. [17:24] Unit193: yeah it is, but Fluxbox upstream is super active [17:24] we even have two GSoC students [17:24] bugs, packaging, etc [17:24] [17:24] paultag: just be careful not to get eaten by the bears at the top of the river :o [17:25] gilbert: Life ain't no fun without a challange :) [17:25] paultag: true dat [17:25] I would love to set it up in VBox, but I need a handy getting started guide/a few handy programs ;) [17:25] Unit193: fluxbox? [17:25] paultag: Heck yeah [17:25] Unit193: sudo apt-get install fluxbox fbautostart [17:25] and just add fbautostart to the ~/.fluxbox/startup, done done and done [17:26] if you have an nvidia card, you can get our compositing branch, or if you like lua, we have a branch for that too [17:27] That's all it's needed for basic? I would assume it doesn't come with a panel or anything though [17:27] Unit193: it does, actually [17:27] and a menu [17:27] the new dfsg2-1 release will have a spiffy new debian theme [17:28] once I get it reviewed (ugh, I need DM) [17:28] Wow... [17:30] pix or it didn't happen! [17:30] j/k === sunkittn is now known as starkittn [17:30] I have some, actually [17:30] sweet! [17:30] they were on my twitter [17:30] sec [17:30] http://i.imgur.com/nP9Sf.png [17:31] except the conky in the background [17:31] that's mine [17:31] which is gone now [17:31] I was mostly fiddling with integration, which I bailed on [17:31] but that theme's fairly finial-ush [17:31] ish * [17:31] tyvm paultag [17:32] sure [17:32] <3 it [17:32] awesome [17:33] so simplistic feeling [17:33] starkittn: it's made to just be a window manager, but some people like to use it as a DE too [17:33] plus grey is my fave color [17:33] I don't mind it at all [17:33] & I was totally checking out your conky [17:34] the close buttons are nice [17:34] * starkittn nods [17:35] * gilbert should try fluxbox someday ^_^ [17:35] :) [17:35] * gilbert currently enjoys xfce very much tho [17:36] gilbert: I run Xfce as my secondary - I *love* xfce [17:36] they really did great stuff with it [17:36] paultag: heck yeah [17:36] In fact, I run Xfce + Fluxbox on my Netbook [17:37] all you have to do is sed s/xfwm/fluxbox/ [17:37] paultag: i love it's lightweightness; although fluxbox is even more feathery [17:37] hmmm [17:37] * canthus13 loves his Openbox. :) [17:38] gilbert: yeah, but by the same token, it's fairly chunky if it's put into a DE like xfce - it has it's own menu and bar, which most don't [17:38] gilbert: so it's this odd little corner case that lets you strip a lot of DE stuff out, but when you add it back, it bloats it worse :) [17:38] canthus13: openbox is nice [17:39] * gilbert loves sceen 2 ;) [17:39] I really like my Fluxbox, though. I do miss vertical desktops, though [17:39] sceen 2? [17:39] I need to patch it to do 2D screen layouts [17:39] 2 = too [17:39] sceen? [17:39] screen rulez [17:39] sceen = screen :( [17:39] oh. screen? [17:39] can't type [17:39] :) [17:39] Ok. screen rocks. [17:39] * canthus13 uses it every day. [17:40] i wonder if we have any new ppls we met at olf in here yet [17:40] I'm *so* bummed I missed it [17:41] dude, u've got all kinds of cool shit going on *all* the time in boston [17:41] yeah that's true - I meet up with my asheesh, mako, spang and daf every sunday gilbert [17:43] aloha [17:43] paultag: that sounds like it would be really cool [17:43] gilbert: it is :) [17:43] howdy canthus13 [17:43] hi czajkowski [17:43] erm czajkowski [17:45] paultag: :p [17:45] I'm still waiting to find this buckely guy [17:45] czajkowski: Jon Buckley? [17:46] he goes by itsafork [17:46] * gilbert decided to learn perl today [17:47] gilbert: it's easy! Just bang the keyboard until it compiles, and bam! Got an email parser! [17:47] paultag: Uh. hi. :) [17:47] canthus13: hai :) [17:47] paultag: aye [17:47] but itsafork hasn't arrived [17:48] czajkowski: you can DM him via twitter - http://twitter.com/#!/itsafork [17:48] he twitted a few hours ago [17:48] my ac is back on private so wont reply back [17:48] tis cool will idle in here [17:48] czajkowski: roger doger [17:50] So, do you use real screen or byobu? :P [17:51] canthus13: k got my screens sorted ty [17:55] Unit193: screen straight up ftw [17:55] gilbert: +1 Glad it isn't just me [18:01] starkittn: there's instructions for reconnecting to your screen session on your desktop. [18:02] * Unit193 screen -rx but it may differ [18:02] canthus13: tyvm :p [18:02] no prob. [18:05] * gilbert hates semi-colons [18:06] ; [18:06] ;p [18:06] ;) [18:06] arrrgg [18:06] * starkittn laughs softly [18:06] * gilbert runs away in fear [18:09] ugh, so i understand the semi-colon makes it more straightforward to have multilines, but it just makes the code so incredibly ugly [18:10] and if i forget the semicolon -> broken code... [18:10] ahh [18:11] is there a semi-colonless perl wrapper or some such? [18:11] i mean this is *annoying* [18:12] seems like the perfect solution [18:12] gilbert: sed s/^/;//g [18:12] good luck [18:12] erm, $, not ^ [18:12] ooh neato! [18:12] run that every time. ;;;;; is valid, methinks [18:12] I'm sure you could do sed s/[^;]$/;/ [18:13] or something like that [18:13] my regexes are a bit krufty [18:13] what's really neat is that I got your gist [18:13] starkittn: yep :) [18:13] * gilbert needs to actually learn regular expressions too [18:13] they help in perl [18:13] then i could buy the xkcd shirt and wear it around! [18:13] hehehe [18:14] xkcd <3 [18:15] I didn't know you could just tell it to use a symbol replace tho... that's nice [18:15] "everybody stand back. i know regular expressions." [18:15] * starkittn laughs softly [18:15] bbl ^) have fun with that [18:18] * jrgifford waves [18:18] Howdy howdy, jrgifford [18:18] How're you Unit193? [18:19] * Unit193 has nice and strong coffee [18:19] You? [18:19] * jrgifford is jealous [18:19] Kona Blend [18:20] Where did you get that? Isn't that a Trader Joes coffee? (might be wrong) [18:21] I'm re-writing a ruby library for a project, and re-inventing the wheel at the same time.... :) [18:21] there are all sorts of brands with a Kona blend... [18:21] Archer Farms [18:21] is that the cat poop one? [18:21] Oh no, that's Kopi Luwak [18:21] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Indonesian_farmer_shows_coffee_beans_already_digested_by_Asian_Palm_Civet%2C_but_before_cleaning_and_roasting.jpg [18:22] paultag, ew. :P [18:22] I hear it's good [18:24] nice, here's my semi-colonless perl wrapper [18:24] #!/bin/sh [18:24] sed s/[\;]$/\;/g $1 | perl [18:25] i wonder if it's possible to use that in the shebang? [18:25] gilbert: I think you can use sed in the shebang [18:26] paultag: right but can you use piping? [18:26] it didn't seem to work [18:26] gilbert: yes, but not how you think, I think [18:26] gilbert: it should just append the filename at the end, so it might do ... | perl filename [18:26] (that's why make -f works) [18:27] but again, I've never tried anything too crazy [18:27] hmmm, i don't see how to get the fname to the end since it has to be an argument to sed, and then it needs to be piped [18:27] I wonder if #!/bin/bash # would work [18:28] gilbert: right [18:28] so it works, but only if you're passing the file to the last thing in the pipe, I think [18:28] I have no idea, I've never done that [18:28] i'm trying to get all crazy [18:28] yeah +1 [18:28] but hey, I wonder [18:29] #!/bin/cat /etc/logininf | nc [18:29] on there's no file arg needed [18:29] dang, oh well [18:30] the shebang should have a $1, it would make 1000x more sense! [18:30] +1 [18:30] also, $0, not $1 [18:30] but yeah [18:30] hey I wonder [18:30] perhaps $0 will work [18:30] right [18:30] hmm [18:30] nope [18:30] dang [18:31] just use /bin/sh ;) [18:31] how does that help? [18:32] #!/bin/sh [18:32] sed s/[\;]$/\;/g $1 | perl [18:32] done :) [18:32] well, yeah but then its a separate wrapper [18:33] i want it to be in the perl script itself [18:33] mv perl perl.real :) [18:33] mv script perl [18:33] change the pipe to perl.real [18:33] done and done [18:33] yeah, but then any other perl script is bound to fail :( [18:33] gilbert: you could fix the sed script to be sane about it [18:34] or call it perlpy [18:34] or something [18:35] gilbert: might also want to pass perl $@ [18:36] ...somehow [18:36] hmmm, i guess the shebang is more appropriately called a hash-bang [18:37] yep, there's an old ML post about that somewhere [18:39] guess difference is #=sharp in american dialect while #=hash in british dialect [18:39] mm, aye [18:39] man... you guys are too geek for sheek [18:39] it's pretty awesome [18:39] ^5 [18:40] gilbert: next you should just sed LOL to ; [18:40] ; [18:40] print "ohai"LOL [18:40] canthus13: ; [18:40] LOL) doesn't have the same effect as ;) [18:40] *chic even [18:41] gilbert: Oh... #=crunch in geek dialect. [18:42] ..which is the only important dialect. :) [18:42] the pound! line [18:42] or, as it's known, the POUND line [18:46] * starkittn presses her head to canthus13 in hopes of knowledge transfer via osmosis [18:46] o dam that's not your head canthus13 ! no wonder I got poo brain today [18:48] Must have been me [18:49] aww no way dawg! why you dissin yourself like that man [18:50] o.O [18:55] * Unit193 is good at self deprecating jokes :D [18:59] noice [19:29] i know perljitsu [19:44] (although i'm still angry at all the semi-colons) [19:46] perljitsu hehee [19:47] ; [20:09] I am now reminded as to why I don't use xchat more often. :P [20:12] * Unit193 irssi :D [20:16] * jrgifford would use irssi, but is too lazy to do that [20:17] protip: when you have to re-write the library to make something work, you're doing it *WRONG*. [20:24] * canthus13 uses irssi because he's too lazy to use anything else. [20:26] Yeah, but yours is more "leet", mine is almost a GUI client :D [20:27] Nice [20:31] Unit193: but it'll still run in a screen session. :P [20:33] canthus13: Aye, that it is. Couldn't go back to finch if I tried (Worked in screen) Xchat had a few nice features, but can't change [23:18] Hello all. I've been really busy for the past couple months and I'm noticing some new faces in here :-) [23:26] hello [23:26] * starkittn isn't really a new person, just an attatchment [23:26] to what? ;-) [23:27] canthus13: [23:27] :D [23:27] Ah canthus13 up to his little tricks huh? [23:27] he has tricks? sweet! [23:27] starkittn: Speaking of which... See ya in an hour. :) [23:27] canthus13: kk <3 [23:29] Ubuntu meet? [23:29] dmcglone: We're hooking up. [23:29] * starkittn blushes [23:29] Ah ok [23:30] dmcglone: She's my wife. :P [23:30] * starkittn giggles [23:30] Ah so IRC chat is the new "fetish"? LOL [23:31]