tseliotcnd: hi, any ideas on bug #804109 ?14:35
tseliotbug #80410914:43
tseliotno bot, I guess14:43
bryceh2Sarvatt: remember when you had those keyboard-doesn't-work-with-lightdm problems?  What was the resolution to that?  udev update?14:53
bryceh2cnd is seeing keyboard failures (keypress events not coming through) when using lightdm14:54
Sarvatti actually dont remember exactly what it was, but i did have to downgrade udev to natty's for a month or so to work around it14:56
Sarvattdont think thats an option anymore with the /run transition though14:57
ricotztseliot, hello, just curious, what is the purpose of nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates?15:00
Sarvattricotz: pulls new nvidia drivers from ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates i believe15:00
ricotzas i would suspect for ("unstable") upcoming updates?15:00
tseliotricotz: it's the package we're going to keep updated during the stable release cycle15:00
bryceh2Sarvatt: yeah found in google where we discussed all this with cnd before15:01
ricotztseliot, ok15:01
bryceh2about 5 weeks ok15:01
Sarvattbryceh2: oh digging through irclogs then, maybe it'll refresh my memory15:01
ricotztseliot, so it might be apropriate to follow the beta cycle already there15:01
ricotzas in updating it to 285.0315:01
ricotzit seems to fix issues with gnome-shell for instance15:02
tseliotricotz: is it a stable driver?15:02
ricotztseliot, no, a beta one15:02
tseliotricotz: then it's not a candidate for -updates. Only stable drivers will go there15:03
Sarvattthey'll probably drop a 285.1x.yy soon and mark it stable not long after15:03
tseliotand that would be a good candidate15:03
ricotzyeah that is what i am hoping15:03
ricotzso updating it already shouldnt do no harm, it seems just a bit weird to ship the same driver twice15:04
bryceh2sarvart: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/07/%23ubuntu-x.txt15:04
bryceh2Sarvatt: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/07/%23ubuntu-x.txt15:07
tjaaltoncnd: what if you restart lightdm, does input work then?15:11
bryceh2tjaalton: no, but if he runs startx with no lightdm it will work15:11
tjaaltonbryceh2: ah, ok15:12
Sarvattbryceh2: those ones were udev choking on the /run transition and not adding the input devices and was already fixed, cnd has had the problem since oneiric opened so pretty sure its something different15:13
tjaaltonmaybe it's starting the wrong X with no input drivers? :) (if there's a local build around)15:16
tjaaltonthough gdm worked..15:16
tjaaltonthe logfile from a failing one would show15:17
bryceh2tjaalton: happen to know a dpkg invocation that would return a list of installed packages not from main/universe?15:17
tjaaltonbryceh2: hmm no, but I thought he might have a hand-built xserver in /usr/local or so15:19
bryceh2no, /usr/bin/X is showing in ps output15:20
bryceh2he's currently stepping through xserver code in gdm15:32
bryceh2er. gdb15:32
diverse_izzuebryceh2, can you have a quick look: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/815978. Should I submit the bug with kernel.org?15:40
bryceh2diverse_izzue: yes that would be a good step15:45
diverse_izzueok, will do15:45
bryceh2diverse_izzue: fwiw I also have a tv that seems to have similarly regressed - no idea if it's the same problem15:45
bryceh2actually the symptom behaviors were different but it was also due to edid not getting read from the device15:46
diverse_izzuemay well be. i'll give you a link to the kernel bug once submitted15:46
diverse_izzuesigh, when will the day come where connecting a second screen doesn't involve praying?15:47
bryceh2I suspect that when modesetting moved from X to kernel, something resulted in tv edid extraction not working (at least for my tv)15:47
diverse_izzueoh damn, kernel.org is still down!15:47
bryceh2diverse_izzue: for me, I saw different results from different outputs from the tv15:49
bryceh2I found that a particular output would work ok with the -nvidia driver, so that's what i ended up with15:49
diverse_izzuewhen you say output, do you mean connector, or resolution?15:50
bryceh2diverse_izzue: instead of kernel.org, you could try filing against the intel X driver at bugs.freedesktop.org15:50
bryceh2it's the same guys that look at both bug trackers15:51
diverse_izzueokay, will do15:52
diverse_izzuewhat xorg version are we at in oneiric?15:53
diverse_izzuebryceh2, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4084115:56
bryceh2xserver 1.10.4.  15:59
bryceh2diverse_izzue: but for this it's more the kernel version that matters15:59
bryceh2diverse_izzue: I see from your dmesg log there's a failure with the displayport connector - which connector was your tv connected to?16:00
diverse_izzuethe analog VGA port16:00
bryceh2there's also a line [    3.595121] [drm:intel_tv_init], Integrated TV is not present.16:01
diverse_izzuewhatever that means...16:02
bryceh2yeah, dunno16:03
bryceh2[    3.930672] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes], [CONNECTOR:12:VGA-1] [    3.950050] [drm:intel_crt_detect], CRT not detected via hotplug [    3.950055] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes], [CONNECTOR:12:VGA-1] disconnected16:03
bryceh2so it's not seeing anything connected to VGA16:03
diverse_izzuebryceh2, iirc hotplug is working, it does realise something is connected, it just doesn't offer me the right resolution16:04
bryceh2ah yes you're hotplugging it later in the log16:07
bryceh2[ 1693.636443] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes], [CONNECTOR:12:VGA-1] [ 1693.660245] [drm:intel_crt_detect], CRT detected via hotplug [ 1693.680424] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes], [CONNECTOR:12:VGA-1] probed modes : [ 1693.680427] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline], Modeline 36:"1024x768" 60 65000 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 0x40 0xa [ 1693.680430] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline], Modeline 34:16:07
bryceh2diverse_izzue: have you tried disabling the LVDS?16:08
bryceh2ala xrandr --output LVDS1 --off16:09
diverse_izzuethat's my internal screen?16:09
bryceh2I think it won't help to turn it off, though.16:09
diverse_izzueneither do i... but i will give it a try16:10
bryceh2diverse_izzue: also, what happens if you have the tv connected while you boot it?16:10
diverse_izzuegood point, will try also16:11
diverse_izzuewill be sporadically away now, cooking fooooood16:12
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