[14:35] <tseliot> cnd: hi, any ideas on bug #804109 ?
[14:43] <tseliot> bug #804109
[14:43] <tseliot> no bot, I guess
[14:53] <bryceh2> Sarvatt: remember when you had those keyboard-doesn't-work-with-lightdm problems?  What was the resolution to that?  udev update?
[14:54] <bryceh2> cnd is seeing keyboard failures (keypress events not coming through) when using lightdm
[14:56] <Sarvatt> i actually dont remember exactly what it was, but i did have to downgrade udev to natty's for a month or so to work around it
[14:57] <Sarvatt> dont think thats an option anymore with the /run transition though
[15:00] <ricotz> tseliot, hello, just curious, what is the purpose of nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates?
[15:00] <Sarvatt> ricotz: pulls new nvidia drivers from ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates i believe
[15:00] <ricotz> as i would suspect for ("unstable") upcoming updates?
[15:00] <tseliot> ricotz: it's the package we're going to keep updated during the stable release cycle
[15:01] <bryceh2> Sarvatt: yeah found in google where we discussed all this with cnd before
[15:01] <ricotz> tseliot, ok
[15:01] <bryceh2> about 5 weeks ok
[15:01] <bryceh2> s/ok/ago/
[15:01] <Sarvatt> bryceh2: oh digging through irclogs then, maybe it'll refresh my memory
[15:01] <ricotz> tseliot, so it might be apropriate to follow the beta cycle already there
[15:01] <ricotz> as in updating it to 285.03
[15:01] <Sarvatt> why?
[15:02] <ricotz> it seems to fix issues with gnome-shell for instance
[15:02] <tseliot> ricotz: is it a stable driver?
[15:02] <ricotz> tseliot, no, a beta one
[15:03] <tseliot> ricotz: then it's not a candidate for -updates. Only stable drivers will go there
[15:03] <Sarvatt> they'll probably drop a 285.1x.yy soon and mark it stable not long after
[15:03] <tseliot> and that would be a good candidate
[15:03] <ricotz> yeah that is what i am hoping
[15:04] <ricotz> so updating it already shouldnt do no harm, it seems just a bit weird to ship the same driver twice
[15:04] <bryceh2> sarvart: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/07/%23ubuntu-x.txt
[15:07] <bryceh2> Sarvatt: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/07/%23ubuntu-x.txt
[15:11] <tjaalton> cnd: what if you restart lightdm, does input work then?
[15:11] <bryceh2> tjaalton: no, but if he runs startx with no lightdm it will work
[15:12] <tjaalton> bryceh2: ah, ok
[15:13] <Sarvatt> bryceh2: those ones were udev choking on the /run transition and not adding the input devices and was already fixed, cnd has had the problem since oneiric opened so pretty sure its something different
[15:16] <tjaalton> maybe it's starting the wrong X with no input drivers? :) (if there's a local build around)
[15:16] <tjaalton> though gdm worked..
[15:17] <tjaalton> the logfile from a failing one would show
[15:17] <bryceh2> tjaalton: happen to know a dpkg invocation that would return a list of installed packages not from main/universe?
[15:19] <tjaalton> bryceh2: hmm no, but I thought he might have a hand-built xserver in /usr/local or so
[15:20] <bryceh2> no, /usr/bin/X is showing in ps output
[15:20] <tjaalton> ok
[15:32] <bryceh2> he's currently stepping through xserver code in gdm
[15:32] <bryceh2> er. gdb
[15:40] <diverse_izzue> bryceh2, can you have a quick look: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/815978. Should I submit the bug with kernel.org?
[15:41] <bryceh2> looking
[15:45] <bryceh2> diverse_izzue: yes that would be a good step
[15:45] <diverse_izzue> ok, will do
[15:45] <bryceh2> diverse_izzue: fwiw I also have a tv that seems to have similarly regressed - no idea if it's the same problem
[15:46] <bryceh2> actually the symptom behaviors were different but it was also due to edid not getting read from the device
[15:46] <diverse_izzue> may well be. i'll give you a link to the kernel bug once submitted
[15:47] <diverse_izzue> sigh, when will the day come where connecting a second screen doesn't involve praying?
[15:47] <bryceh2> I suspect that when modesetting moved from X to kernel, something resulted in tv edid extraction not working (at least for my tv)
[15:47] <diverse_izzue> oh damn, kernel.org is still down!
[15:49] <bryceh2> diverse_izzue: for me, I saw different results from different outputs from the tv
[15:49] <bryceh2> I found that a particular output would work ok with the -nvidia driver, so that's what i ended up with
[15:50] <diverse_izzue> when you say output, do you mean connector, or resolution?
[15:50] <bryceh2> connector
[15:50] <bryceh2> diverse_izzue: instead of kernel.org, you could try filing against the intel X driver at bugs.freedesktop.org
[15:51] <bryceh2> it's the same guys that look at both bug trackers
[15:52] <diverse_izzue> okay, will do
[15:53] <diverse_izzue> what xorg version are we at in oneiric?
[15:56] <diverse_izzue> bryceh2, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40841
[15:59] <bryceh2> xserver 1.10.4.  
[15:59] <bryceh2> diverse_izzue: but for this it's more the kernel version that matters
[16:00] <bryceh2> diverse_izzue: I see from your dmesg log there's a failure with the displayport connector - which connector was your tv connected to?
[16:00] <diverse_izzue> the analog VGA port
[16:01] <bryceh2> there's also a line [    3.595121] [drm:intel_tv_init], Integrated TV is not present.
[16:02] <diverse_izzue> whatever that means...
[16:03] <bryceh2> yeah, dunno
[16:03] <bryceh2> [    3.930672] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes], [CONNECTOR:12:VGA-1] [    3.950050] [drm:intel_crt_detect], CRT not detected via hotplug [    3.950055] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes], [CONNECTOR:12:VGA-1] disconnected
[16:03] <bryceh2> so it's not seeing anything connected to VGA
[16:04] <diverse_izzue> bryceh2, iirc hotplug is working, it does realise something is connected, it just doesn't offer me the right resolution
[16:07] <bryceh2> ah yes you're hotplugging it later in the log
[16:07] <bryceh2> [ 1693.636443] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes], [CONNECTOR:12:VGA-1] [ 1693.660245] [drm:intel_crt_detect], CRT detected via hotplug [ 1693.680424] [drm:drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes], [CONNECTOR:12:VGA-1] probed modes : [ 1693.680427] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline], Modeline 36:"1024x768" 60 65000 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 0x40 0xa [ 1693.680430] [drm:drm_mode_debug_printmodeline], Modeline 34:
[16:08] <bryceh2> diverse_izzue: have you tried disabling the LVDS?
[16:09] <bryceh2> ala xrandr --output LVDS1 --off
[16:09] <diverse_izzue> that's my internal screen?
[16:09] <bryceh2> right
[16:09] <bryceh2> I think it won't help to turn it off, though.
[16:10] <diverse_izzue> neither do i... but i will give it a try
[16:10] <bryceh2> diverse_izzue: also, what happens if you have the tv connected while you boot it?
[16:11] <diverse_izzue> good point, will try also
[16:12] <diverse_izzue> will be sporadically away now, cooking fooooood