[05:43] <magespawn> morning. whats up peeps?
[05:44] <superfly> hi magespawn
[05:46] <magespawn> hey. 
[05:48] <magespawn> i think you mentioned the name of a hosting company that you use, who was it?
[05:51] <superfly> magespawn: I use DataPoint, because I know the guy personally. He used to be fairly active in Ubuntu-ZA and GLUG
[06:00] <magespawn> ty. i am checking out various hosting solutions.
[06:08] <superfly> morning oom Kilos!
[06:08] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[06:08] <Kilos> and others
[06:08] <Kilos> you too fast hey?
[06:08] <nuvolari> mornings everyone
[06:09] <Kilos> nuvolari, dag se seun
[06:09] <nuvolari> hoe gaan dit oom?
[06:09] <Kilos> goed dankie seun en self
[06:09] <nuvolari> kan nie kla nie dankie oom
[06:22] <magespawn> morning all.
[06:24] <maiatoday> hey magespawn
[06:24] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday magespawn 
[06:25] <Kilos> lo Squirm2 
[06:25] <Kilos> your brother here
[06:25] <Kilos> hehe
[06:38] <Squirm2> hi
[07:26] <magespawn> maiatoday: that problem i ha with libre office only seems to happen when i am online.
[07:26] <superfly> morning maiatoday and Squirm
[07:39] <maiatoday> hi superfly
[07:45] <Kilos> Maaz, weather in pretoria south africa
[07:45] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me
[07:51] <Kilos> is launchpad one of the compromised sites?
[07:58] <superfly> Kilos: no, the weather site's format changed, I think
[07:58] <Kilos> oh ya but i mean must i go to launchpad and change my password?
[07:59] <superfly> Kilos: no
[07:59] <magespawn> later all.
[07:59] <Kilos> yay ty superfly 
[08:00] <Kilos> cocooncrash, if you get a chance can you please tell maaz where to find the changed weather sites
[08:00] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn 
[08:00] <nlsthzn> alo
[08:02] <cocooncrash> Kilos: Eh?
[08:02] <Kilos> Maaz, weather in pretoria south africa
[08:02] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
[08:03] <Kilos> he has lost something
[08:03] <cocooncrash> Kilos: What do you mean by "find the changed weather sites"?
[08:04] <Kilos> oh the fly says he thinks the format has changed
[08:04] <Kilos> i thought the had different sites
[08:04] <Kilos> sorry
[08:04] <cocooncrash> Kilos: The plugin needs to be fixed
[08:05] <Kilos> oh, a maaz plugin?
[08:05] <cocooncrash> Well, Ibid.
[08:06] <Kilos> geekchick sees pretoria weather so maybe one of them has done it already for her
[08:06] <cocooncrash> Kilos: geekcheck isn't an Ibid
[08:06] <Kilos> oh ok
[08:06] <cocooncrash> *chick
[08:32] <scar[w]> more more
[08:38] <Kilos> hi scar[w] 
[08:39] <Vhata> scar[w]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey   :)
[08:39] <Vhata> sjoe, that's not a well-written piece of documentation
[08:42] <Kilos> fairly easy in ubuntu
[08:42] <scar[w]> thanks Vhata
[08:43] <Vhata> Kilos: I know it's easy, it's just that that help page doesn't explain things very well
[08:43] <Kilos> ah
[08:50] <Kilos> what do you call those little goodies we use the compose key for , such as ô
[08:51] <Kilos> im not sure what those characters are called
[08:51] <Kilos> i am blogging how to get a compose key in ubuntu
[08:52] <Kilos> for new ubuntu users of course
[08:53] <Kilos> i can even leave the explanation with maaz as well
[08:53]  * nlsthzn doesn't know the little goodies
[08:53] <Kilos> lol
[08:54] <Kilos> superfly, what is the character called above the o in ô
[08:54] <Kilos> all of them actually
[08:54] <Kilos> not each individual one
[08:55] <superfly> Kilos: I don't know
[08:57] <Kilos> oh mywhew
[08:57] <Kilos> come on Vhata what are they collectively called
[08:58] <Vhata> accents?
[08:59] <Kilos> i have completely lost the correct word
[08:59] <nlsthzn> thingamabobs
[08:59] <Kilos> like the degrees sign
[08:59] <nlsthzn> watchamacallits
[09:00] <Kilos> °
[09:00] <Kilos> they must have a name
[09:00] <Kilos> if i blog it wrong then every one knows im stupid
[09:00] <Vhata> they're called accents
[09:00] <Kilos> they dont just think so
[09:00] <Kilos> ok ty Vhata 
[09:01] <Vhata> or 'diacritic' :)
[09:01] <Vhata> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic
[09:01] <Vhata> and there's a nice list of all of them
[09:02] <Kilos> great. ty
[09:05] <Kilos> is this ok guys
[09:05] <Kilos> Maaz, compose key
[09:05] <Maaz> You go system/keyboard/layouts/options/ then on compose key tick the tiny triangle and choose which key you would like to use as your compose key. To use the compose key you tap the chosen compose key and then shift and the diacritic you want, then type the character and it will appear inline. more info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic
[09:05] <Kilos> hi sumona 
[09:06] <andrewlsd> Hello Kilos
[09:08] <Kilos> hello andrewlsd 
[09:09] <Kilos> do we know you?
[09:22] <andrewlsd> indeed. aka zerlgi
[09:31]  * andrewlsd makes some noise
[09:36] <superfly> ohi andrewlsd and morgs
[09:36] <andrewlsd> ola superfly
[09:36] <maiatoday> andrewlsd: you involved with software freedom day at vodacom? 
[09:36] <andrewlsd> superfly. Nice review on your blog
[09:37] <andrewlsd> am attending
[09:37] <andrewlsd> haven't been involved in planning this time.
[09:37] <andrewlsd> but our peeps are
[09:37] <andrewlsd> we just got swag from Canonical
[09:37] <andrewlsd> stefanlsd is a good person to contact
[09:37] <andrewlsd> ... or you can phone the office.
[09:38] <andrewlsd> are you coming up this way?
[09:38] <andrewlsd> or are you doing something CapeTown/'Bosch side?
[09:38] <maiatoday> oh cool, I wanted to say good job on getting it all going and also wanted to point whoever is making the posters to the place on the canonical where you can get the official logo
[09:38] <morgs> hi superfly and everyone
[09:38] <maiatoday> the sulug people are doing something in Stellenbosch
[09:38] <maiatoday> I have their info but must still post the final details
[09:38] <andrewlsd> maiatoday. if you send me the link I'll pass it on
[09:39] <superfly> andrewlsd: thanks
[09:39] <maiatoday> ok http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/
[09:40] <maiatoday> I also posted on the mailing list but I suspect people don't always read those mails when they get in
[09:41] <andrewlsd> tx maiatoday.
[09:42] <andrewlsd> superfly:  I think I saw the link c/o twitter RT.
[09:43] <superfly> andrewlsd: I tweeted about it
[13:41] <Kilos> Maaz, kilos.blog
[13:41] <Maaz> Kilos: kilos.blog is http://mileyssignificantblog.blogspot.com/
[16:08] <Kilos> drussel=deegee
[16:09] <Kilos> here i thought he was a stranger
[16:24] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[16:24] <nlsthzn> Hey uncle Kilos :)
[16:42] <superfly> evening nlsthzn
[16:42] <nlsthzn> Hey superfly :)
[16:43] <nlsthzn> superfly, I was wondering, ubuntu-za.org planet feed... will it now also show up on loco.ubuntu.com's main page when a new post is made?
[16:44] <superfly> nlsthzn: i don't know
[16:48] <nlsthzn> No prob... just saw that they are trying to increase the profile of loco.ubuntu.com by adding this feature... only problem is half the posts coming through are not in english :)
[17:29] <magespawn> howdy all.
[17:31] <nlsthzn> hey magespawn ...
[17:31] <nlsthzn> And good night to all
[17:32] <Kilos> night nlsthzn 
[17:32] <Kilos> you going to bed now?
[17:32] <magespawn> night nlsthzn
[17:32] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[17:33] <magespawn> hey kilos
[17:34] <nlsthzn> 12 hours of fun in the sun is too much...
[17:34] <Kilos> lol
[17:36] <Kilos> do any of you guys read full circle magazine
[17:37] <Kilos> looks like they might get windows peeps interested in ubuntu if windows peeps read it
[17:38] <Kilos> here comes some spam
[17:38] <Kilos> Reader Duane Donovan has given me the idea of running a column/series which would be just for Windows users, or for those brand new to Ubuntu. It would take parts of Windows and explain it's *buntu equivalent. I'm going to try and show how things are done using Unity, Gnome, KDE, XFCE and LXDE for each item.
[17:39] <Kilos> oh not too bad
[17:40] <Kilos> i have no idea who their readers are or how many there are, but i get a monthly ,ail from then
[17:40] <Kilos> ,ail/mail
[17:41] <nlsthzn> I like full circle...
[17:42] <nlsthzn> Even got an article published with them once
[17:42] <nlsthzn> ... but I reaaaaly need to go now 
[17:42] <nlsthzn> :p
[17:42] <Kilos> have you got suggestions on what to add to his list nl
[17:42] <Kilos> eish
[17:42] <Kilos> lol
[17:42] <Kilos> hi |3o|3 
[17:48] <magespawn> i read full circle esp the long running article on python.
[17:48] <Kilos> ah
[17:48] <Kilos> dont you get their mail on next issues
[17:50] <Kilos> are they mainly read by linux OS users or do you think he will get to windows peeps too
[17:51]  * Kilos wonders how kbmonkey is doing
[17:54] <magespawn> no i just usually download the mag 
[17:54] <magespawn> no idea but if you put it in your email signature or on twitter it might help
[17:58] <Kilos> i only have their mail address
[17:59] <magespawn> www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[18:00] <Kilos> i dont think i have a signature either. chatted the fly about that a while ago and decided it gonna just waste data
[18:00] <Kilos> i think only 7 peeps see my tweets
[18:32] <magespawn> hey not me cell c.
[18:42] <benste> hi - vodacom k3770 3g modem with network manager
[18:43] <benste> i've tried different things with udev and this usbmodus change
[18:43] <benste> but i'm still stuck with a green blinking light and the "CD drive"
[18:43] <benste> anyone who could help me sorting this out ?
[18:44] <benste> having 3 of these modems it becomes quite important to use it
[18:47] <magespawn> did you set up your connection in network manager
[18:51] <benste> well the modem is not yet detected
[18:51] <benste> magespawn: didn't see your reply first :)
[18:51] <benste> Hi
[18:52] <magespawn> hi 
[18:52] <magespawn> no worries
[18:53] <magespawn> mine was not either but after i set it up in the manager it connected
[18:53] <benste> problem is that the device is still detecete as USB cdrom drive
[18:54] <benste> -- i can't set up a WWAN connection if no modem is found !
[18:55] <magespawn> i set mine up in the network manager told it to connect automatically and of i went
[18:56] <magespawn> set just the mobile network connection up
[18:56] <superfly> benste: install usb-modeswitch
[18:56] <magespawn> superfly! i forgot i even had that.
[18:57] <superfly> benste: you can download the packages on a PC with a connection, and then copy them across and install them
[18:57] <benste> superfly: i do have my phone with a 3g modem as well :)
[18:57] <benste> will try to do so 
[18:58] <benste> usb-modeswitch is already the newest version.
[18:58] <benste> and the settings for this are already in place as well
[18:58] <benste> i remeember putting things at three positions
[18:58] <benste> like
[18:58] <benste> http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/342803-k3770-Modem-on-Natty-How?s=1a15d8c7fdd79f275c8087aa0bd3a80f&p=6413377&viewfull=1#post6413377
[18:59] <magespawn> i have to restart the machine with the modem already plugged in, not sure why.
[19:00] <superfly> benste: I presume you rebooted inbetween?
[19:00] <benste> mutliple times :)
[19:00] <benste> plugging it in before and after rebooting - nearly everything tested now
[19:02] <magespawn> which modem is it?
[19:03] <magespawn> i am using the K3565
[19:03] <benste> k3770
[19:03] <benste> guess it's vodacoms latest
[19:04] <benste> already well dicussed on the inet
[19:04] <queery> i also have problems with a vodacom stic
[19:04] <queery> could not get it to work
[19:04] <queery> even with the tool on sent out on the mailing list
[19:05] <queery> not sure what it is whough
[19:05] <magespawn> there was something i found on mine that talked about changing things like the access name etc
[19:05] <queery> though*
[19:07] <Kilos> maybe ozerocdoff
[19:07] <Kilos> cant remember why i needed that
[19:07] <Kilos> and modemmanager
[19:08] <Kilos> and ppp andpppconfig
[19:08] <benste> well anyway - guees i'll use my modem for the moment
[19:08] <Kilos> hi benste
[19:08] <benste> -- my modem is not even dicsovered - connection is a whole different story
[19:08] <Kilos> frustrating hey
[19:09] <Kilos> have you tried it in another usb port
[19:09] <Kilos> you using lappy or desktop
[19:12] <Kilos> benste see if you have ozerocdoff
[19:12] <Kilos>  This is the improved Option software for temporarily disabling
[19:12] <Kilos>  ZeroCD and allowing the modem to be a modem. It has replaced rezero.
[19:16] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[19:16]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[19:20] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[19:20] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[19:20] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[19:23] <Kilos> oh my
[19:23] <Kilos> all gone
[19:30] <Kilos> magespawn, wb
[19:30] <magespawn> in and out like a yo yo tonight
[19:30] <Kilos> lol
[19:31] <Kilos> the newer these modems are the worse they are
[19:32] <Kilos> and they are faster and faster but our mobile providers cant come close
[19:33] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:45] <magespawn> night all