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| charlie-tca | Good morning | 13:48 |
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| charlie-tca | Good afternoon, madnick | 13:49 |
| davmor2 | morning charlie-tca how's xubuntu going? | 13:55 |
| madnick | morning charlie-tca :) | 13:56 |
| charlie-tca | davmor2: Good morning! Things are looking very good right now | 13:57 |
| mr_pouit | hey | 14:00 |
| charlie-tca | Good morning, mr_pouit | 14:01 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: have you started to work on xfce4-dev-tools? (I'm thinking of forgetting about multiarch for now, with the beta and final freeze coming soon, and with the ftbfs & bugfix releases to sync...) | 14:04 |
| mr_pouit | (also, the latest garcon release [0.1.9] contains many internal changes, I'm not sure it's very wise to update it at this point) | 14:07 |
| mr_pouit | and would remain: exo (fix ftbfs, and sync in o+1); gigolo, libxfce4util, libxfcegui4, xfce4-clipman-plugin, xfce4-dict, xfce4-fsguard-plugin and xfce4-utils (sync from unstable) | 14:19 |
| charlie-tca | I trust your judgement in this stuff | 14:19 |
| charlie-tca | Let's not break what we can't fix :) | 14:20 |
| mr_pouit | let's wait for micahg's opinion (if he has started to work on them, let's continue ;-) | 14:22 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 14:23 |
| cyphermox | hi, can I bring your attention to bug 844027; I'm concerned that dropping gnome-bluetooth to suggests as proposed would have it drop from the xubuntu image; there may be a need to change the seed file | 15:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 844027 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Consider dropping gnome-bluetooth to suggests" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844027 | 15:33 |
| cyphermox | AFAICT gnome-bluetooth isn't seeded explicitly, and instead is getting pulled by network-manager-gnome; I can fix this by sending a merge request, but I just want to make sure outside of any doubt that this is what we want :) | 15:35 |
| charlie-tca | cyphermox: we are looking at using blueman to configure bluetooth, since bluetooth now requires gnome-control-center to configure it. | 15:35 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: do we need gnome-bluetooth? | 15:36 |
| cyphermox | good thing I asked then ;) | 15:36 |
| charlie-tca | We would prefer not to have to pull half of gnome3 to use bluetooth | 15:36 |
| cyphermox | fwiw, the upload I'll do to fix this will also include a fix for bug 606825 | 15:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 606825 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Showing many Dont Show This Messege again" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606825 | 15:37 |
| charlie-tca | We need mr_pouit or micahg to give us a reading here. They are much more knowledgeable than myself on these things | 15:38 |
| cyphermox | sure sure, no rush | 15:39 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: I test built exo last night, we at least need the -m fixes, I'd almost rather pull the whole thing in unless it's going to break in bad ways | 16:19 |
| micahg | cyphermox: we can seed it if we need it, that's not an issue, thanks | 16:21 |
| cyphermox | alright | 16:21 |
| cyphermox | micahg: thanks! | 16:21 |
| scott-work | charlie-tca: i wanted to say that i think xubuntu natty is a beautiful release, especially the themeing and panel layout | 16:57 |
| scott-work | i enjoy the simplistic window dressings as they are simplistically beautiful yet extremely functional | 16:58 |
| scott-work | i am setting up a six core machine to do video on and i am using xubuntu 11.04 as the base for it | 16:59 |
| scott-work | i have used xubuntu before (even natty) but i am especially enjoying setting up this machine with xubuntu this time | 16:59 |
| scott-work | i am keeping a log of the things that i have been changing and will submit it to the xubuntu-devel mailing list as suggestions within the coming week or so | 17:00 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 17:02 |
| charlie-tca | ochosi did the theme for natty and oneiric | 17:03 |
| scott-work | ochosi: good job on the natty theme! | 17:04 |
| scott-work | charlie-tca: i was looking at bug 844027, are you considering change network applications? | 17:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 844027 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Consider dropping gnome-bluetooth to suggests" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844027 | 17:06 |
| charlie-tca | no, we are thinking bluetooth right now requires pulling in gnome3 for user configuration purposes | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca | so, we won't use gnome-control-center | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca | we will seed gnome-bluetooth if we decide to use it, but see no reason it has to be there at the present time | 17:07 |
| scott-work | ah, we don't want any bluetooth included by default since we really aren't a "desktop" distribution | 17:08 |
| charlie-tca | but don't people use bluetooth headsets for music? | 17:08 |
| charlie-tca | or am I confused again? | 17:08 |
| scott-work | hmmmm, perhaps | 17:09 |
| scott-work | but i don't think they are routinely used in studio settings | 17:09 |
| scott-work | i could be wrong however | 17:10 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. I don't do much of anything with music, including listening to it anymore | 17:10 |
| Unit193 | This also isn't Ubuntu Studio ;) | 17:11 |
| scott-work | i would posit that bluetooth headphones would be used more for pedestrian listening | 17:11 |
| scott-work | true Unit193 :) | 17:11 |
| Unit193 | We are thinking about blueman IIRC | 17:12 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: BTW, I'm with you on no new upstreams, but I think the Debian packaging changes we should probably take unless you think multiarch will break stuff badly (in which case I guess we cherry pick the linker flag fixes) | 18:17 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: no, I think it's ok to sync (I tested the helpers - open an url/a mailto from xfce4-terminal, and they still work) | 21:25 |
| micahg | ok, I'll try to get it all in for beta 2 then | 21:26 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: and the xfce4-dev-tools sync won't cause any new rebuild iirc | 21:26 |
| mr_pouit | (because only exo is ready for multiarch) | 21:26 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: do you know if https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+localpackagediffs can be used for syncs? | 21:29 |
| mr_pouit | (and is it buggy and will cause a massive autosync by accident? ;-) | 21:29 |
| mr_pouit | s/and/or/ | 21:29 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: yes, it can, but syncpackage will now use that interface as well | 21:29 |
| mr_pouit | oh, nice | 21:29 |
| micahg | the multiarch changes need an FFe | 21:29 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: Around? | 21:33 |
| mr_pouit | I'm doing some syncs (libxfce4util, libxfcegui4 and xfce4-utils), and if I'm not too sleepy I'll prepare the bug report for exo (otherwise I'll do it tomorrow morning) | 21:42 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: I am back now | 22:03 |
| Unit193 | ~4.* enough for an install? The resize screen didn't tell me how large it was giving me | 22:03 |
| charlie-tca | yes, we can install Xubuntu in 2. GB if the installer will run | 22:07 |
| charlie-tca | I have done installs in 1.9 using the alternate image | 22:08 |
| Unit193 | You said something about it acting funny at ~3 I think? | 22:08 |
| charlie-tca | If you are using the desktop image, and trying to install, ubiquity gives you issues when the drive size is less than 4.4GB, but you can actually install in 1.9 with a separate swap file of 192MB | 22:09 |
| charlie-tca | without the swap file, it gets really cranky | 22:09 |
| charlie-tca | oh, and it is slower, too | 22:10 |
| Unit193 | I only had issues with it not telling me how much space each was | 22:10 |
| Unit193 | I think it's supposed to be a "feature" though | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | wierd | 22:12 |
| charlie-tca | weird | 22:13 |
| charlie-tca | it should tell you, but maybe it is changed now | 22:13 |
| charlie-tca | Is the alternate image working for you? | 22:13 |
| charlie-tca | It gave me a missing kernel message today | 22:14 |
| Unit193 | Haven't testing that yet, going down the line of tests (Entire yesterday, resize today, etc) I could test 32bit though | 22:14 |
| charlie-tca | That's great! | 22:14 |
| charlie-tca | I will run alternate images tomorrow, just to verify what is working in them | 22:14 |
| Unit193 | So you would like me to run one? I just don't really have much more to mark down than "Pass" :/ | 22:15 |
| charlie-tca | No, I will try both alternate images tomorrow | 22:16 |
| charlie-tca | PASS is good! Most of the bugs that were real obvious got fixed | 22:17 |
| Olbi | I have been updated xubuntu daily iso testing site to 13 october :P some1 could add there anything :] | 22:32 |
| charlie-tca | There should be a form for each month | 22:35 |
| charlie-tca | I show July, August, September there now | 22:35 |
| Olbi | my bad | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | No problem. I will make it easier to find the right one | 22:46 |
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