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| oSoMoN | good morning | 08:29 |
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| Saviq | hello | 08:37 |
| apinheiro | njpatel, one question, looking at this method QuicklistView::IsMenuItemSeperator(int index) | 08:49 |
| apinheiro | and at the objects | 08:50 |
| apinheiro | it seems that a quicklistmenu item can have a label, no matters if it is a quicklistmenuitemlabel or not | 08:50 |
| apinheiro | right? | 08:50 |
| apinheiro | hmm, the question is not really clear | 08:51 |
| apinheiro | can I assume that only quicklistmenuitemseparator will be a separator? | 08:52 |
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| njpatel | apinheiro, yes, you can assume that safely :) | 09:16 |
| apinheiro | njpatel, ok, thanks | 09:27 |
| nigelb | njpatel: Heya! Do you think you'd have time to give a session at User Days about Unity Lenses? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays | 09:35 |
| nigelb | (Mostly about using) | 09:35 |
| njpatel | nigelb, I _should_ be able to, but I'm not sure if I'm away those days, let me find out and get back to dyou | 09:39 |
| nigelb | njpatel: Great! Thanks. Once you're sure you can pick a slot yourself or just let me know whats a convinient time :) | 09:43 |
| Saviq | any comments on whether that's a sane approach http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/689057/ to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/801073 ? | 10:35 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 801073 in unity-2d "[dash] Dash is shown when pressing and releasing quickly super+KEY" [High,Triaged] | 10:35 |
| Saviq | what I'm yet unsure how to follow on, are custom shortcuts for other LauncherItems | 10:36 |
| Saviq | and now that I think about it, it won't help with shortcuts interpreted outside of the launcher :/ | 10:37 |
| Saviq | e.g. what's mentioned on the bug - using Super+Tab to switch between windows | 10:37 |
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| Saviq | Kaleo: ^ | 10:53 |
| Kaleo | Saviq: that won't do it unfortunately | 11:07 |
| Kaleo | Saviq: it has to work for any key press happening at the same time as the super tap | 11:07 |
| Kaleo | Saviq: that is, for keys that Unity 2D does not control | 11:07 |
| Saviq | yeah I know | 11:07 |
| Kaleo | Saviq: just read your comment :) | 11:08 |
| Kaleo | Saviq: ok :) | 11:08 |
| Saviq | ah so you mean if during SuperkeyHeld | 11:08 |
| Saviq | any other key is pressed | 11:08 |
| Saviq | just ignore that | 11:08 |
| Kaleo | Saviq: yes | 11:08 |
| Saviq | so we need to monitor all the other keypresses | 11:08 |
| Kaleo | Saviq: for example, some laptops for some reason use Super+L for switching video output | 11:08 |
| Kaleo | Saviq: that's right | 11:08 |
| Kaleo | Saviq: and we don't want the dash to show up when the user presses Super+L quickly | 11:09 |
| Saviq | yeah obviously | 11:09 |
| Saviq | ok, on it | 11:09 |
| Kaleo | Saviq: thanks | 11:10 |
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| smoser | my unity-2d-panel right now is taking up 865M resident | 12:02 |
| smoser | I'm running 'system-load-indicator', could that possibly causing leaks in unity-panel-2d ? | 12:04 |
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| greyback | mardy, hey would you like me to review the grid_view stuff you did? | 14:44 |
| mardy | greyback: sure, you're most welcome! :-) | 14:44 |
| greyback | mardy, ok, I wasn't certain what "Abstain" meant | 14:45 |
| mardy | greyback: I accidentally set it on "resubmit" myself, then I didn't find a way to remove my own review, so I changed it to "abstain" :-) | 14:47 |
| greyback | mardy: aha, see :) | 14:48 |
| greyback | mardy, interestingly, you've also managed to fix something I just logged: bug:850036 | 14:50 |
| mardy | greyback: good to know! :-) | 14:51 |
| greyback | mardy: hmmm, no, not quite :( | 14:51 |
| mardy | greyback: I hope it doesn't make it worse, at least :-) | 14:51 |
| greyback | mardy: it's working a lot better anyway. That was a nasty bug | 14:52 |
| greyback | mardy: oh you're really gonna hate me now! | 14:55 |
| mardy | greyback: maybe ;-) | 14:56 |
| davidcalle | Kaleo, hi | 14:57 |
| Kaleo | davidcalle: hi | 14:58 |
| davidcalle | Kaleo, are you the one who implemented the HorizontalRenderer in Unity-2D? | 14:59 |
| Kaleo | davidcalle: yep | 15:01 |
| davidcalle | Kaleo, great, I have a small problem with it, non square images are enlarged to fit the tile http://ubuntuone.com/4hJIk1CeAboeNXsKv0T1ZP | 15:02 |
| davidcalle | Kaleo, do you want a proper bug report on this? | 15:02 |
| Kaleo | davidcalle: I'm not sure I see the non square case in that screenshot | 15:10 |
| Kaleo | davidcalle: definitely, a bug report would be grand | 15:10 |
| greyback | Kaleo: "would be grand" :P | 15:12 |
| davidcalle | Kaleo, silly me, it sure could be useful to provide you a reference... Same icons with the vertical renderer http://ubuntuone.com/1SSTc5J23VFLFK5piS9GAD Bug report on its way, thanks a lot :-) | 15:12 |
| Kaleo | greyback: :p | 15:14 |
| Kaleo | davidcalle: got it :) | 15:14 |
| Kaleo | davidcalle: excellent, thank you for that | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | mpt: hey | 15:15 |
| cyphermox | mpt: can I get your opinion of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/834495 ? better to have icons that are almost invisible in some themes, or no icons at all? | 15:16 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 834495 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Edit Connections tabs have wrong-color mono icons" [Medium,In progress] | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | unfortunately special-casing the icons to ship dark when the theme is light and the other way around would be complicated | 15:17 |
| OwaisL | In some cases especially with the panel at some level of transparency. Mono icons become invisible when opening the dash as the panel changes colour too. Usually happens with light panel+dark icons | 15:30 |
| mpt | cyphermox, that's a false choice, it works in 11.04 | 15:46 |
| mpt | and I'm pretty sure there was a bug report about it previously | 15:47 |
| cyphermox | mpt what do you mean? | 15:47 |
| cyphermox | it "works" in as much as the icons are already there, but afaik they would be just as not very visible | 15:47 |
| mpt | Basically the menu should be using -symbolic, which mono provides, while the Edit Connections window uses the standard icons that don't | 15:47 |
| cyphermox | -symbolic? | 15:47 |
| mpt | "don't" = "mono doesn't provide, I mean | 15:47 |
| cyphermox | both things use the exact same icons | 15:50 |
| mpt | cyphermox, exactly, they shouldn't | 15:50 |
| cyphermox | this is done because normally the icons will match the theme throughout, what nm-connection-editor does is ask what theme is used, that's all | 15:50 |
| mpt | cyphermox, what does it do with that information? | 15:53 |
| cyphermox | well, just get the theme used, to know what the icon theme is, then load the icon from that theme | 15:53 |
| mpt | cyphermox, why does it do that? Why doesn't it just use the icon name? | 15:54 |
| cyphermox | mpt, it's equivalent. just getting the icon name will also get the one from the current theme | 15:55 |
| cyphermox | you ask for the icon name, the theme will be used unless the icon is unavailable, then it will start to use fallbacks | 15:55 |
| cyphermox | however the icon *is* always availa | 15:55 |
| cyphermox | because it's the same as we use for the indicator icons | 15:56 |
| cyphermox | (or largely the same, especially for wired) | 15:56 |
| mpt | cyphermox, what are the names of the icons used? | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | nm-device-whatever; so -wired, -wireless, -wwan and -unknown, IIRC | 16:01 |
| cyphermox | -unknown is a possibility but should never be reached, so we can safely forget it | 16:01 |
| cyphermox | oh, I forgot -vpn | 16:01 |
| mpt | cyphermox, so, the mono themes should provide, and the network menu should be using, -wired-symbolic, -wireless-symbolic, -wwan-symbolic, etc | 16:04 |
| mpt | cyphermox, then Humanity or Hicolor should provide, and the Edit Connections window should be using, -wired, -wireless, -wwan, etc. | 16:04 |
| cyphermox | can you point me to where this symbolic stuff is defined? I know nothing of it and it all sounds a little confusing | 16:06 |
| cyphermox | e.g. defined as in documented | 16:06 |
| mpt | Depending on the age of the code it might be using -panel rather than -symbolic | 16:06 |
| mpt | aha | 16:08 |
| cyphermox | I can't find anywhere on my system an icon named -symbolic (and -panel has *very few*) | 16:08 |
| mpt | cyphermox, bug 541882 is where the equivalent bug was fixed for the Sound Preferences. | 16:08 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 541882 in ubuntu-mono (Ubuntu) "Ambiance panel-style volume icons look ghostly elsewhere" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541882 | 16:08 |
| mpt | Looks like maybe it is supposed to be -panel, to avoid clashing with future -symbolic icons that work differently. | 16:09 |
| mpt | cyphermox, oh, snap | 16:30 |
| mpt | we commented at the same time | 16:30 |
| cyphermox | d oh | 16:30 |
| cyphermox | :) | 16:30 |
| cyphermox | well, I understand it better now, though I'm pretty unhappy that this means yet more delta from upstream and debian | 16:30 |
| cyphermox | but I think with careful work, this can be corrected | 16:30 |
| mpt | cyphermox, there shouldn't be any delta except in the menu, which is all delta anyway, right? | 16:31 |
| mpt | And why do you need new icons at all? | 16:31 |
| cyphermox | mpt: less and less | 16:31 |
| cyphermox | I'm working on getting the patches upstream | 16:31 |
| mpt | Well then, even in the menu, exactly the same code would work regardless of theme | 16:31 |
| mpt | If you're using an icon theme that doesn't have -panel icons, it falls back to the standard ones | 16:32 |
| cyphermox | well, seems to me like it should be new icons, ubuntu-mono needs to have a dark version of say, nm-device-wired, and a light version. the light one will be used in the panel, the dark one in the UI. | 16:32 |
| cyphermox | past that I don't really care much how they are done or what the name is, as long as it's implementable in code and doesn't destroy other themes | 16:32 |
| mpt | cyphermox, are you sure that Humanity or Hicolor or something else in the fallback stack doesn't have them already? | 16:33 |
| cyphermox | pretty sure | 16:33 |
| mpt | cyphermox, well if they don't, why doesn't it malfunction upstream? | 16:33 |
| mpt | Does upstream have versions of Humanity or Hicolor that have more icons than ours? | 16:34 |
| cyphermox | hicolor just has colored icons, and that works no matter if your panel is dark or light | 16:34 |
| mpt | cyphermox, right, that's what you want here | 16:34 |
| mpt | Again comparing to the Sound Preferences, the volume icons there are slightly colored too | 16:35 |
| cyphermox | but the name of the icon used in the code is always the same here, I use nm-device-wired for both the panel and connection editor, that's how it's done upstream | 16:35 |
| mpt | cyphermox, exactly! | 16:35 |
| mpt | cyphermox, so step 1, change the names in the menu code, adding -panel | 16:36 |
| mpt | Step 2, change the names in the mono theme, again adding -panel | 16:36 |
| mpt | The Edit Connections window code remains unchanged | 16:37 |
| cyphermox | mkay, now this makes sense | 16:37 |
| cyphermox | mpt: finally, you know the icons will look different in ubuntu-mono and humanity at least for wired? | 16:39 |
| cyphermox | in ubuntu-mono we have arrows, in humanity what I find now is two connectors of some sort, looks a bit like a belt | 16:40 |
| mpt | cyphermox, if anything, that's a feature ... Mono's wired icon is not very good :-) | 16:40 |
| cyphermox | alright. | 16:40 |
| cyphermox | care to update the bug so that it's clear as you described it above? | 16:41 |
| mamed | hey | 19:20 |
| smoser | is unity-2d-panel leaking extremely badly for others ? | 19:20 |
| mamed | guys | 19:21 |
| mamed | i removed unity it was so slow but i loved global menu . i want it back (i mean global menu) can you help me? | 19:21 |
| smoser | I'm using 4.6.1-0ubuntu1, its been up for < 8 hours, and sucking 1.1G resident. | 19:21 |
| smoser | Kaleo, ^ ? | 19:22 |
| mamed | noone will help i think | 19:22 |
| smoser | mamed, you could try unity-2d. i dont think that the unity panel was expected to function without the rest. | 19:23 |
| htorque | smoser: is it unity-2d-panel or the unity-panel-service (bug 835646)? | 19:26 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 835646 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity-panel-service memory leak when starting various applications" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835646 | 19:26 |
| smoser | unity-2d-panel is what shows in top | 19:26 |
| htorque | ok, then that's not that | 19:26 |
| smoser | i run 'system-load-indicator' which might be what differenciates me from stock | 19:27 |
| smoser | i just killed unity-2d-panel, and quit the system-load-indicator. i'll see if that is less leaky | 19:28 |
| htorque | smoser: i'm running that here as well, though using normal unity. haven't seen it leaking. | 19:28 |
| smoser | well, its visably still leaking for me. started off at 32M resident, its alrady up to 46M in 10 minutes. | 19:38 |
| Kaleo | smoser: hi, let me see | 19:40 |
| Kaleo | smoser: that's not good, can you file a report with the specifics of your configuration please? | 19:41 |
| smoser | Kaleo, what sort of specifics ? | 19:43 |
| smoser | bug 850320 opened | 19:43 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 850320 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) "bad memory leak in unity-2d-panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850320 | 19:43 |
| htorque | smoser: that gotta be similar to bug 835646 - you can trigger the memory raise by opening any program | 19:44 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 835646 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity-panel-service memory leak when starting various applications" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835646 | 19:44 |
| htorque | e.g., check mem usage, run start and quit gimp, check mem usage again | 19:44 |
| smoser | hm... htorque i dont know. i dont start a lot of GUI problems. | 19:44 |
| smoser | programs. | 19:44 |
| smoser | i dont actually think i've *started* an X11 program in the last 15 minutes | 19:45 |
| smoser | i do use 'gnome-open' fairly extensively though for opening urls in firefox. | 19:45 |
| htorque | smoser: maybe just coincidence, will monitor it a bit and confirm if it raises on without any action. | 19:46 |
| smoser | well its hard to do *no* action | 19:46 |
| smoser | :) | 19:46 |
| htorque | heh, true | 19:46 |
| smoser | for one, you just made my launcher panel come out, and the indicator panel light up by saying my name | 19:46 |
| smoser | i'll let others figure out if its a dupe or not. | 19:48 |
| htorque | smoser: did you switch between windows a couple of times during that period? seems to raise on every switch here (~500kb each time). | 19:50 |
| smoser | yeah. switching desktops seems to make it leak | 19:52 |
| macer1 | Hi. What is ayatana doing exactly? I mean...is it managing Ubuntu look and feel and thinks like that? | 19:56 |
| macer1 | ? | 20:00 |
| Omega | macer1: it tries to improve the user experience of ubuntu and applications on ubuntu | 20:02 |
| macer1 | cool :D | 20:03 |
| Omega | so yes look and feel are all part of what ayatana does | 20:03 |
| Omega | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana | 20:03 |
| macer1 | I am running oneiric now. Ayatana made very good work on imporiving user experience :) | 20:04 |
| Omega | :) | 20:04 |
| macer1 | i want to report a bug about some dropped gestures/keys like Ctrl+D in compare to natty. does it affect ayatana or only unity? | 20:06 |
| macer1 | maybe ayatana deleted Ctrl+D to show desktop, to give better user experience :D | 20:07 |
| Omega | macer1: yes it affects ayatana | 20:13 |
| Omega | if it is a design change, it affects ayatana | 20:14 |
| macer1 | hmm...is there a list of changes like that? | 20:14 |
| jderose | tedg: what's the correct, modern way to save and restore an app's window size and position? | 21:17 |
| tedg | jderose, Great question :-) | 21:17 |
| tedg | jderose, It seems to be falling on apps to do today, but my personal believe is the WM/session manager should help there. | 21:17 |
| jderose | hehe | 21:17 |
| tedg | jderose, But they're not today. | 21:17 |
| tedg | belief | 21:18 |
| jderose | yeah, it does seems like a weird thing for the app to manage... so that being the case, how should an app to this? what's "the tedg way"? :) | 21:18 |
| tedg | jderose, You can just grab your position from you window and restore it. Honestly, i think you probably should just have a good default. | 21:24 |
| jderose | yeah | 21:24 |
| tedg | It's quick to maximize, which is really what most people want anyway. | 21:24 |
| tedg | Especially with a video editor. | 21:24 |
| jderose | yeah :) | 21:25 |
| jderose | tedg: so just call Window.maximize() before I call Window.show_all()? | 21:28 |
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