[03:20] <sjanssen> I tried upgrading from 11.04 to the development version of 11.10.  Upgrade failed in the "immediate configure" stage of some python related package
[03:21] <sjanssen> so I ran update-manager -d, which offered to run a partial upgrade
[03:21] <sjanssen> partial upgrade fails with: Could not calculate the upgrade, "E:Error, pkgProblemResolve::Resolve generated breaks"
[03:21] <sjanssen> what's my next step?
[03:23] <urlin2u> there has been a update for the last two days that removes libreoffice, not sure this is the best time to upgrade.
[03:24] <sjanssen> urlin2u: wellll, I already started the upgrade
[03:24] <sjanssen> I fear my system might be in an inconsistent state
[03:26] <urlin2u> no back up of the original like a clone?
[03:27] <sjanssen> urlin2u: nope
[03:27] <sjanssen> I could always reinstall, it wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world
[03:30] <robin0800> ubuntu! migration
[03:32] <sjanssen> soo, any thoughts?  Even some hints on how to troubleshoot this would be great, logs I should check, etc.
[03:34] <bjsnider> what command did you use originally to upgrade?
[03:35] <sjanssen> bjsnider: just whatever updatemanager-d does
[03:35] <sjanssen> erm, update-manager -d
[03:35] <bjsnider> well, go back and run the original command, find the name of the python package and try removing it. then run the command again
[03:36] <sjanssen> bjsnider: attempting to upgrade again with a partially upgraded system won't cause things to explode?
[03:37] <bjsnider> well, to me, from what you've said, they've exploded already
[03:38] <sjanssen> ok, explode worse :)
[03:38] <bjsnider> you can check /var/log/dpkg.log too
[03:39] <bjsnider> and there's /var/log/dist-upgrade with some info inside
[03:47] <sjanssen> pyatspi2 is the package
[03:48] <bjsnider> now, if you remove it, does it also force out anything else?
[03:48] <sjanssen> yikes, it wants to take tons of stuff
[03:49] <sjanssen> g++-4.5 gcc-4.1 gcc-4.5 gnome-orca libstdc++6-4.5-dev python-pyatspi
[03:49] <sjanssen> oh, but then upgrade those packages
[03:49] <bjsnider> that's all?
[03:49] <sjanssen> bjsnider: python-pyatspi2 is not installed on my system
[03:49] <sjanssen> seemingly conflicts with a package named "python-pyatspi" (ie, no 2)
[03:51] <bjsnider> sjanssen, were you using any ppa's before you upgraded?
[03:51] <sjanssen> bjsnider: yes
[03:52] <bjsnider> any that might affect that package?
[03:53] <sjanssen> not that I can tell, atspi is apparently "Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface", can't imagine that any PPA would have a special version of that
[03:53] <bjsnider> are you using the gnome 3 ppa?
[03:54] <sjanssen> no
[03:54] <urlin2u> upgrades turn off the ppa sources, and remove some iof the apps n the process
[03:54] <bjsnider> well, anyway, it is safe to remove the package and then do the upgrade
[03:54] <sjanssen> ok, thanks
[04:03] <Gavekort_> Hi! Does anyone have experience with the mount.ntfs skyrocketing in 11.10? It's constantly at 90% load, and it freezes my computer. It happened after this recent update.
[04:33] <sjanssen> bjsnider: I think the upgrade worked.  Thank you very much for your help
[04:34]  * sjanssen is rebooting, probably won't be back if everything works
[04:40] <LLStarks> hi, can somebody explain multiarch to me?
[04:42] <nhaines> It's like single-arch but there's more of it.
[04:43] <nhaines> LLStarks: it means the packaging system is smarter about systems that support multiple architectures.
[04:43] <nhaines> For example, if you're on a 64-bit Intel/AMD processor, it can also support 32-bit code.
[04:43] <nhaines> So in oneiric, you can install the official Adobe Flash plugin from Canonical on a 64-bit machine.
[04:43] <nhaines> Also it'll only pull in the 32-bit libraries it needs, not a huge pack in a compatibility package.
[04:45] <Johnny_Giggles> I'm looking for a development platform to code Standard C on.  How's 11.10 looking for development compared to 10.04?
[04:49] <nhaines> Johnny_Giggles: it's hosting Ubuntu development well.  :)
[04:49] <Johnny_Giggles> okay
[04:49] <Johnny_Giggles> All I'm doing is K&R exercises.  Nothing really fancy.
[04:49] <nhaines> Johnny_Giggles: In that case, anyhthing should work.
[04:50] <nhaines> Also pretend I didn't misspell "anything".
[05:10] <Peddy> is anyone else experiencing a black boot (plymouth) screen until the login window?
[05:12] <Peddy> yes, and is there a bug report?
[07:24] <nn52> hey guys , how yo set up Nautilus as default menager in KDE4?
[07:33] <bullgard4> What does mean "and others" in http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libreoffice-base-core: "Package: libreoffice-base-core (1:3.4.3-1ubuntu1 and others)"?
[07:37] <rww> bullgard5: that link doesn't say that, but if it did, it would mean there are multiple versions in the archive, probably because of a build failure of some sort
[07:41] <TeTeT> hi, are there any other examples for multiarch support on oneiric but flashplugin?
[07:42] <TeTeT> good old hello works too ;)
[09:59] <nocturn> Hi all
[10:00] <nocturn> How can I prevent windows from opening fullscreen by default (Chromium, Thunderbird and Firefox do this)?
[10:00] <laoen> Hi! Installed oneiric on asusn55n. Install went well, looks nice. Problem is reboot ends in black screen. Must restart in recovery mode, log in in text mode, then sudo- start lightdm. Then everything seems ok.  Any ideas?
[10:01] <Lynoure> nocturn: at least in KDE you can take Advanced-> Special window settings, and the Geometry: Apply initially (whatever size you want)
[10:02] <nocturn> Lynoure: this behaviour is new in 11.10 AFAIK
[10:02] <nocturn> So I hoped to be able to turn it off ...
[10:02] <Lynoure> nocturn: I think I just told you one way to turn it off...
[10:03] <nocturn> Lynoure: thanks, but I'm on Ubuntu (Gnome), not kubuntu
[10:03] <Lynoure> nocturn: ah, then sorry, don't know.
[10:04] <laoen> btw onieric is xubuntu
[10:09] <nocturn> Anyone having problems with window focus in recent updates, and subsequent unity crashes?
[10:18] <carli2> the libreoffice dependency is broken since the latest update
[10:18] <dupondje> no should be fixed now ?
[10:21] <carli2> and when i try to install openoffice instead, it says that it needs libreoffice
[10:21] <carli2> dupondje: not solved after update+install
[10:23] <carli2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/689049/ <- my sources.list
[10:25] <dupondje> why would you want openoffice ?
[10:26] <carli2> because libreoffice dependencies are broken
[10:26] <carli2> but openoffice, too
[10:28] <dupondje> libreoffice depends are fixed since this morning
[10:28] <dupondje> just updated it
[10:29] <carli2> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[10:30] <carli2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/689058/
[10:30] <carli2> i hate localization for system tools
[10:31] <carli2> oder auf deutsch: voll scheiße, dass die jeden popel übersetzen müssen
[10:33] <carli2> uninstall all libreoffice packages and try to reinstall
[10:40] <carli2> dupondje: how long does it take to have the new deps on all mirror servers?
[10:42] <carli2> ah, it works after i loaded from main server
[10:42] <carli2> btw: there are bugs with gnome-terminal with resizing under awesome
[10:43] <carli2> and an other bug with maximized windows and moving under awsome
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:59] <knightstalker> Heyz,Can someone open Libreoffice and then open dash and see what happens?
[12:59] <knightstalker> My dash will open in the background,and wont get on the Libreoffice
[13:00] <knightstalker> and also,can someone try Libreoffice Writer's Wizards?They don't work here
[13:00] <peto_> hello
[13:00] <knightstalker> Hey
[13:01] <peto_> where can I get the last beta (8 sep) of Oneiric?
[13:01] <knightstalker> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[13:01] <knightstalker> Click on Beta 1 There
[13:01] <peto_> thanks
[13:01] <knightstalker> And it directs you to the download links
[13:01] <knightstalker> Welcome
[13:01] <Pici> The last link of the topic as well.
[13:02] <drussell> knightstalker: I can't reproduce your first issue, works as expected here
[13:03] <knightstalker> drussell,what about second one?
[13:03] <drussell> knightstalker: what wizards? I'm not familiar with them?
[13:04] <peto_> but... the beta1 link links you to the September 1st instead to the more recent September 8th ¿?
[13:05] <knightstalker> peto_,What I gave you is official,you can always download snapshots though
[13:05] <knightstalker> Not that I recommend them
[13:05] <Pici> peto_: Are you looking for a daily image?
[13:05] <drussell> peto_: best to install the official beta, and update it
[13:06] <drussell> peto_: as the daily images may have *issues*
[13:06] <knightstalker> drussel,go to Libreoffice Writer,then File,Then wizards and click on letter for example
[13:06] <drussell> knightstalker: correct, I can confirm that's not working
[13:07] <drussell> knightstalker: might be this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/780399
[13:08] <knightstalker> drussell,oh thanks,and what about,clicking on Tools,Bibliography Database
[13:08] <knightstalker> it crashes the whole libreoffice Writer here
[13:08] <peto_> I see, I will download the September 1st version thanks, (I thought that all images on this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule , including September's 8, were equaly reliable
[13:09] <drussell> knightstalker: ooh I was just about to type "doesn't do anything but also doesn't crash"
[13:09] <drussell> knightstalker: then it crashed :o)
[13:09] <knightstalker> drussell,Yayz
[13:09] <knightstalker> If you are so good you'd report that,My internet sucks on sending 9 mb to Launchpad
[13:10] <knightstalker> I appreciate it :P
[13:11] <knightstalker> Anyways,I cant reproduce the first issue anymore
[13:13] <knightstalker> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/527938
[13:15] <drussell> knightstalker: lol ahh had done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/849957
[13:26] <peto_> My computer runs GNU/Ubuntu 11.04.  If I run 11.10 beta 1 under Virtual Box, can I install it within the 8 GB VB gives to it ERASING ALL DISK confidently?
[13:27] <peto_> letting beta 1 make the partitions?
[13:27] <peto_> (virtual partitions, I suppose)
[13:29] <peto_> or is it more secure making the partitions by hand within the 8 GB virtual disk?
[13:29] <drussell> peto_: auto should be fine
[13:30] <peto_> drussell, thank you, that seems logic
[13:30] <peto_> al
[13:55] <tankdriver> how can I disable the login sound? I can not find it in gnome-session-properties anymore.
[13:56] <OwaisL> Okay, so this is the third time I'm typing this. :) My Skype topped working since the last update. It has some library version incompatibility.
[13:56] <OwaisL> Fatal: Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40703) with this library (version 0x40704)
[13:58] <tankdriver> OwaisL: the package "skype" does not work on amd64 anymore. use "skype:i368" package.
[14:00] <gnomie_> tankdriver: there is a volume control on the upper right corner of the login screen. try that already?
[14:01] <gnomie_> quassel..
[14:03] <tankdriver> gnomie_: yes, it worked. thank you. (the icon appeared "muted", but after increasing and decreasing volume to minimum, it was ok)
[14:03] <gnomie_> tankdriver: you use quassel under gnome? how is it?
[14:03] <tankdriver> it works. ^^
[14:03] <gnomie_> cool
[14:05] <tankdriver> indicator stuff works flawlessly too.
[14:05] <gnomie_> quassel is my fav .. only second to irssi though  heh
[14:05] <gnomie_> >:)
[14:06] <tankdriver> .. but I miss the URL-Preview feature in oneiric
[14:06] <gnomie_> :(
[14:07] <gnomie_> bummer
[14:07] <gnomie_> thats a handy feature for avoiding rickrolls
[14:08] <gnomie_> quassel is the only one with such thing that i know of too
[14:21] <OwaisL> tankdriver: I'm using skype:i386
[15:06] <bjsnider> OwaisL, ldd /usr/bin/skype |grep -i Qt
[15:07] <bjsnider> pasebin output
[15:07] <bjsnider> you may need to sudo that command
[15:11] <OwaisL> bjsnider, http://pastebin.com/FgDU5Zmn
[15:12] <bjsnider> OwaisL, when was the last update?
[15:13] <OwaisL> It stopped working since Sunday I guess
[15:13] <OwaisL> My packages are up to date, updated them just 20 mins ago
[15:13] <OwaisL> bjsnider, ^
[15:13] <bjsnider> /usr/lib32/libQtDBus.so.4
[15:13] <bjsnider> that is not correct
[15:13] <bjsnider> i think that is the problem
[15:14] <bjsnider> install libqt4-dbus:i386
[15:15] <bjsnider> find out whatever package it is that's providing that file
[15:15] <OwaisL> it's  already installed
[15:15] <bjsnider> you might have an old ia32-libs or one from a ppa installed
[15:17] <dupondje> bleh :Âs
[15:17] <dupondje> seems I reported like 10 bugs the last 2 days
[15:17] <dupondje> not cool :)
[15:17] <bjsnider> if you look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/i386/libqt4-dbus/filelist
[15:17] <bjsnider> the correct path for that file is /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtDBus.so.4
[15:18] <OwaisL> thanks bjsinder, I'll check it out and let you know
[15:19] <bjsnider> you should check to make sure you have hte above file installed, track down what is providing the other version and then remove it and run sudo ldconfig afterwards
[15:19] <bjsnider> pretty sure this is a consequence of the move to multiarch in oneiric
[15:23] <dupondje> LANGUAGE=nl:en_AU:en
[15:24] <dupondje> this changes randomly ?
[15:24] <dupondje> previous boot it was chinese ...
[15:24] <OwaisL> I did a "sudo dpkg -S /usr/lib32/libQtDBus.so.4" but that couldn't find the package. Just moved libQtDBus.so.4 o libQtDbus.so.4.bak and it worked
[15:24] <OwaisL> djsnider, thanks a ton.
[15:25] <bjsnider> it must have somehow been left over from an old ia32-libs package
[15:25] <OwaisL> right
[15:25] <bjsnider> i don't understnd how that could happen, but maybe an upgrade was interrupted or whatever
[15:26] <OwaisL> should that not leave dpkg in broken state?
[15:26] <bjsnider> well, let's say you lose electricity or something
[15:27] <OwaisL> hmm, that might be the case
[15:27] <bjsnider> maybe you did a manual configure/make make install on a package a while back and it put thatfile there and then you never did a make uninstall
[15:27] <OwaisL> anyways, thanks for the help.
[15:28] <OwaisL> yes, I was fidling around with touchegg and some other qt apps source
[15:28] <OwaisL> that must be it
[15:28] <bjsnider> well, you might have other issues then
[15:29] <OwaisL> Got to go for dinner now. :) bye
[15:29] <bjsnider> you could rebuild that software and then do a make uninstall
[15:30] <OwaisL> sure, will do that.
[17:45] <Uatec> hi there
[17:45] <Uatec> i installed 11.10 but i can no longer find the Extra Effects option in gnome to enable fancy effects like wobbly windows, etc
[17:46] <Uatec> where has this gone?
[17:46] <Uatec> (using gnome classic)
[17:46] <rww> !ccsm
[17:48] <Uatec> lol, compizconfig-settings-manager just crashes
[17:50] <Uatec> and simple-ccsm causes dependency breaks so i can't install it :(I
[17:51] <kjeldahl`> Yeah, the situation is terrible.
[17:52] <Uatec> lol
[17:53]  * Uatec thinks he will wait 
[18:47] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[18:51] <james296> can anyone here tell me why my clock isnt showing the time at all? All its showing is the word Time
[18:59] <dbmit> im having a problem installing oneiric on my pc
[19:00] <dbmit> is there anyone who can help me
[19:01] <james296> it seems no one here is talking today
[19:01] <Exodus> dbmit, describe your problem and if someone is here and knows how to help you we will
[19:01] <james296> Exodus could you help me with the problem I asked about before?
[19:02] <james296> about the clock only saying the word Time instead of the actual time?
[19:02] <Exodus> james296, I just got here 5min ago
[19:02] <james296> ok
[19:02] <Exodus> james296, clock in Unity?
[19:02] <james296> I asked about it just now
[19:02] <james296> yes
[19:03] <dbmit> ok so i tried to install and it goes through the whole process then it gets to the point where the background is displayed but the desktop or successful install wont pop up
[19:03] <Exodus> james296, maybe you have your time offset wrong
[19:03] <james296> no matter what I try I cant seem to make it show the current time
[19:03] <Exodus> james296, have you set your location?
[19:03] <james296> it says under the Time and Date settings 3:03pm
[19:03] <james296> I tried that yes
[19:03] <Exodus> james296, when you check the location does it display the correct location?
[19:03] <james296> no matter where I click it STILL says Time
[19:04] <james296> it just says localtime and nothing is selected
[19:04] <james296> but even if I select something its still the same
[19:04] <dbmit> ??
[19:04] <Exodus> james296, is Network Time enabled?
[19:05] <james296> I guess so, the option Automatically from the Internet is enabled
[19:05] <Exodus> dbmit, it's difficult to know what went wrong with just that information, could you maybe supply some log files?
[19:05] <dbmit> how do i get to them?
[19:06] <Exodus> james296, so you have your correct location set and the network time setting is enabled, yet it's not the correct time?
[19:06] <james296> correct
[19:07] <Exodus> dbmit, hmm, install logs, can't remember where they are, but check /var/log/ for that
[19:07] <james296> it doesnt display any time
[19:07] <james296> just the word Time
[19:07] <Exodus> any time? =O
[19:07] <Exodus> james296, can you supply a screenshot?
[19:07] <dbmit> through the command line correct?
[19:07] <james296> whats the easiest way to do that in Ubuntu?
[19:07] <Exodus> just hit print screen
[19:08] <Exodus> upload it to any image site
[19:08] <james296> well what if I just want a screenshot of the area that the problem is at?
[19:08] <Exodus> hm, edit the image than, gimp
[19:09] <james296> so theres no way to crop the screen easily?
[19:09] <Exodus> not from the screenshot ¬¬
[19:10] <Exodus> To crop the screenshot use an image manipulation tool like GIMP
[19:10] <james296> can I send you the pic?
[19:10] <urlin2u> james296, select an area to grab in screenshot
[19:11] <james296> did you get it?
[19:11] <Exodus> Doesn't seem it's getting sent
[19:11] <Exodus> Upload it somewhere, it's better for others to chip in if they have the ss too
[19:11] <james296> ok, so how else can I send it to you?
[19:12] <Exodus> There are several sites you can upload a pic too that provide an easy link
[19:12] <james296> such as?
[19:12] <Exodus> http://imgur.com/
[19:13] <james296> uploading
[19:14] <james296> http://imgur.com/mj6DV
[19:14] <dbmit> exodus, i tried that and it says is a directory
[19:15] <james296> see what I mean Exodus?
[19:16] <Exodus> dbmit, /var/log/ is a directory, there are log files in there :P
[19:16] <Exodus> james296, is the map not clickeable for you?
[19:16] <dbmit> ok nso how do i open?
[19:16] <Exodus> or the Location text input not editable?
[19:16] <james296> no its clickable
[19:17] <Exodus> dbmit, log files are usually just text files unless they're handled by some log file archiver and they're ziped
[19:17] <james296> hold on, I'll show you
[19:17] <Exodus> james296, click your location, does the text not change? (What a weird bug)
[19:17] <james296> no it doesnt change
[19:18] <james296> here
[19:18] <james296> http://imgur.com/hkjkx
[19:18] <Exodus> james296, have you updated your system?
[19:18] <james296> yes as up to date as it can get
[19:21] <Exodus> james296, click somewhere else, like, in Asia, does it not change the time in that window?
[19:21] <james296> I just tried clicking everywhere on there, still the same thing...
[19:23] <james296> are you telling me Im the only person getting this problem? does it have to do with the hardware of my computer?
[19:23] <james296> I already installed the ntp package for network time or whatever it is
[19:23] <Exodus> james296, pretty much, but still, lets fix it
[19:24] <james296> ok
[19:24] <Exodus> james296, it's already installed in Ubuntu by the ntpdate package
[19:24] <james296> no, it wasnt installed
[19:24] <Exodus> you should uninstall the ntp package if you installed it
[19:24] <james296> I had to install it
[19:24] <Exodus> ntpdate package handles that
[19:24] <james296> ok hold on
[19:24] <Exodus> 'ntpdate' comes with Ubuntu
[19:25] <james296> ok done
[19:25] <james296> still same problem
[19:26] <Exodus> james296, ok, lets try manually
[19:26] <james296> I did that already
[19:26] <james296> nothing
[19:26] <Exodus> james296, pretty much what the graphical app should do
[19:26] <Exodus> what did you try?
[19:26] <james296> manually
[19:26] <Exodus> Define: manually
[19:26] <Exodus> did you change your /etc/localtime?
[19:26] <james296> I click the manually button, nothing changes
[19:26] <Exodus> ahh hehe
[19:26] <Exodus> no no
[19:27] <Exodus> I mean do the changes from the terminal
[19:27] <Exodus> Manually
[19:27] <Exodus> Instead of graphically
[19:27] <james296> is that really necessary?
[19:27] <james296> Im a GUI kinda guy lol
[19:27] <Exodus> james296, it's just 3 lines
[19:28] <Exodus> james296, and since you have this weird error it's a way to fix it
[19:28] <james296> well I know if I try to save changes from the root folder, I cant, because Im not a root user
[19:28] <Exodus> james296, open a terminal
[19:28] <Exodus> open the Unity menu and type 'term' and hit enter
[19:28] <Exodus> or alt f2 and type: gnome-terminal
[19:28] <james296> got that
[19:28] <Exodus> ok
[19:29] <Exodus> by the ss you want new york?
[19:29] <james296> yes
[19:30] <Exodus> type this:
[19:30] <james296> so now what?
[19:30] <Exodus> sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York /etc/localtime
[19:30] <Exodus> well, that might give an error
[19:30] <james296> it says file exists
[19:30] <Exodus> sudo ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York /etc/localtime
[19:31] <Exodus> the 'f' forces the file to be overwritten
[19:31] <james296> ok I did that doesnt show any output, but it still looks the same...
[19:32] <james296> this is quite a challenge here isnt it?
[19:33] <Exodus> ok, now type: sudo ntpdate-debian
[19:33] <Exodus> now type: date
[19:34] <Exodus> and copy/paste me the output
[19:34] <james296> ntpdate[6268]: adjust time server 204.9.54.119 offset -0.012323 sec
[19:34] <Exodus> not that output, the output from date
[19:34] <Exodus> type: date
[19:34] <FernandoMiguel> for those that read what I wrote about http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/ yesterdat
[19:34] <Exodus> That output
[19:34] <FernandoMiguel> it shaved 5 secs from the total time
[19:34] <FernandoMiguel> and 10 secs from boot
[19:34] <james296> Wed Sep 14 15:34:05 EDT 2011
[19:35] <james296> it still says Time just so you know
[19:36] <Exodus> james296, well, the time is correct at least, it's just not showing in Unity
[19:36] <Exodus> everything underlying Unity is alright
[19:36] <james296> right
[19:36] <james296> so why is it showing just time?
[19:37] <Exodus> do you have the 'indicator-datetime' package installed?
[19:38] <james296> not sure
[19:38] <james296> yes
[19:38] <Ian_Corne>  google-talkplugin : Depends: lib32v4l-0 but it is not installable
[19:38] <Ian_Corne> :(
[19:39] <Koheleth> geez cant subit crashes with being asked to signup to lauanchpadn this new,
[19:39] <james296> theres a ppa for that I do believe Ian
[19:40] <Koheleth> Cant I give the info anon now?
[19:40] <james296> so now what Exodus?
[19:41] <Exodus> james296, this is your bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/804754
[19:41] <Ian_Corne> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/47
[19:41] <Ian_Corne> this one james296 ?
[19:41] <Koheleth> Ian_Corne:  is that a bible verse!
[19:41] <james296> yes
[19:42] <Koheleth> :)
[19:42] <Ian_Corne> what Koheleth ? :p
[19:43] <james296> so what can I do Exodus?
[19:43] <Koheleth> guys everytime 11.10 crashes I am asked to login to launchpad is this a new bug or comercial thing lol
[19:43] <Exodus> james296, wait for the update to hit the repositories :-)
[19:43] <james296> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[19:43] <Exodus> james296, you can also install gnome-shell
[19:43] <Koheleth> anger gets no ne nowhere
[19:43] <james296> yes I just did that, lol
[19:44] <Exodus> james296, I actually use gnome-shell
[19:44] <james296> yeah I used it in fedora 15
[19:44] <james296> very nice
[19:44] <james296> Im gonna log off and give it a shot now
[19:45] <james296> bye Exodus thanks for the help
[19:45] <Exodus> james296, np
[19:50] <james296> Exodus
[19:50] <james296> question
[19:50] <james296> why is it that my status is unavailable next to my name?
[19:51] <james296> in Gnome-shell
[19:52] <FernandoMiguel> FYI diff speed before and after  http://bootcharts.f.bugabundo.net/
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel> http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/
[19:53] <james296> damn, gnome shell crashes more than Unity...
[20:09] <h00k> !netsplit
[21:29] <ianm_> new bug in Luz in Oneiric, linker errors for SDL, Gtk, seemingly everything https://bugs.launchpad.net/luz/+bug/830733 see the log file there.  ring any bells?
[21:44]  * gnomie besieges you daily with unity2D! 
[21:53] <trism> ianm_: quick guess looking at the build log, the libraries are listed before the code files your compiling, I don't think it will be able to resolve symbols that way with the new setup from http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking (I'm still waiting for luz to branch so I can test it)
[21:58] <ianm_> trism: thanks I appreciate it!
[22:07] <lusepuster> I just upgraded to Oneiric beta1, but have met a number of issues, just wanna chack if they are well known or are specific pecause of some long-forgotten tampering with my system... First: in the UNity panel, the date/time applet just says "time" instead of showing date and time? I have to open the applet menu to see anything
[22:08] <trism> ianm_: yeah that seems to be it, just move *.cc in {input-manager,spectrum-analyzer}/Makefile to the start of the gcc command (I did something like: gcc -o input-manager *.cc <libs here>)
[22:08] <lusepuster> Second, I only have one workspace/virtual desktop and cannot seem to create more... Is that due to the reverting to gtk-window-decorator?
[22:08] <ianm_> trism: fantastic thank you so much!
[22:08] <dupondje> could somebody execute 'locale -a | grep -F .utf8' and give me its output?
[22:10] <urlin2u> lusepuster, you are using the virtual drivers.
[22:11] <lusepuster> urlin2u, the virtual drivers for what, and how can I fix it?
[22:11] <robin0800> lusepuster, go to time & date settings to add date etc. you should have four workspaces accessible from the launcher
[22:11] <urlin2u> lusepuster, your in a virtual right?
[22:12] <lusepuster> urlin2u, nope, it's on a partition
[22:12] <urlin2u> lusepuster, I misunderstood.
[22:12] <lusepuster> robin0800, I know I should, yet there's only one.
[22:13] <lusepuster> robin0800, also, I already have four different locations, yet instead of saying the time in the panel it says the word "time".
[22:15] <lusepuster> Also, since upgrade to Oneiric, Banshee crashes when I open it...
[22:16] <robin0800> lusepuster, well there's something wrong afraid I can't help
[22:16] <dupondje> could somebody execute 'locale -a | grep -F .utf8' and give me its output?
[22:21] <IdleOne> !notunity | famine_
[22:22] <famine_> another question....how do I stop using GDM or whatever? i want to boot into a console not a graphic enviroment
[22:23] <IdleOne> !nox
[22:25] <famine_> okay...where is the grub.conf located? its not in /boot/grub/
[22:25] <famine_> this is my first run with ubuntu, always used gentoo before
[22:26] <IdleOne> !grub2
[22:26] <jtaylor> famine_: there is no grub.conf anymore I thing, grub2 config is in /etc/grub.d/
[22:27] <IdleOne> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:28] <famine_> okay, lets see how this is now. thanks brb
[22:28]  * psusi wonders why the other distros have yet to move to grub2
[22:28] <psusi> it's like still using LILO...
[22:46] <famine> are there any gnome themes anywhere in apt?  i want to the close program/minimize/maximize on the right hand size instead of left (in gome3)
[22:49] <TheSimkin> apt-cache search gnome theme
[22:49] <robin0800> famine, in gnome shell they are on the right I think and the left in unity
[22:50] <famine> im in gnome shell
[22:50] <famine> they are on left
[22:51] <famine> same as unity
[22:52] <famine> hmmm, changing the theme doesnt change where the buttons
[22:52] <famine> are
[22:53] <TheSimkin> famine: are you knew to linux?
[22:53] <TheSimkin> new even
[22:53] <robin0800> famine, you can install gnome-standard themes plus others are in the software centre
[22:53] <famine> no im new to ubuntu
[22:54] <famine> i used gentoo for years
[22:54] <famine> never used unity/gnome3 or apt before
[22:56] <IdleOne> famine: you might want to give a quick read to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[22:57] <famine> ya I understand the basics, im just finding it frustrating for the little stuff...like getting these damn close/minimize/maximize icons on the right instead of the left
[22:59] <IdleOne> !controls
[22:59] <IdleOne> not sure if that still applies
[23:00] <IdleOne> least not since. I could be wrong
[23:00] <IdleOne> 11.04
[23:00] <TheSimkin> famine: ahh, i was going to recommend kde but if you used gentoo i am sure you are alrady familiar with kde.
[23:00] <TheSimkin> <3 gentoo and kde.
[23:01] <TheSimkin> the only distros i use any more.
[23:01] <TheSimkin> gentoo and ubuntu!
[23:01] <famine> i prefer gnome over kde
[23:01] <famine> i like e17 too
[23:01] <TheSimkin> i did for a little bit
[23:01] <famine> but im most productive on a gnome2 desktop
[23:01] <TheSimkin> when 4.x just came out
[23:01] <TheSimkin> it was AWFUL
[23:01] <TheSimkin> but 4.7.1 is almost where 3.5.10 was
[23:06] <famine> ya I dunno, it doesnt matter what theme I select, the buttons are always on the right hand side
[23:07] <famine> ahhh
[23:07] <famine> got it
[23:07] <famine> nice
[23:09] <almoxarife> having dependency issues with googletalk plugin amd64, anyone else?
[23:10] <famine_> okay, another question, how can I install an older version of firefox? i need a firefox 3.x for quakelive plugin
[23:55] <BluesKaj> so what is the flash fix now that the seven machines ppa is nmo longer valid
[23:55] <BluesKaj> no longer valid
[23:57] <nhaines> what did the seven machines PPA do?
[23:58] <BluesKaj> the ppa key is no longer working
[23:58] <BluesKaj> qand flash is no longer working
[23:58] <nhaines> What's wrong with the Ubuntu or the Canonical repo?
[23:59] <BluesKaj> dunno , haven't tried it yet