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sjanssenI tried upgrading from 11.04 to the development version of 11.10.  Upgrade failed in the "immediate configure" stage of some python related package03:20
sjanssenso I ran update-manager -d, which offered to run a partial upgrade03:21
sjanssenpartial upgrade fails with: Could not calculate the upgrade, "E:Error, pkgProblemResolve::Resolve generated breaks"03:21
sjanssenwhat's my next step?03:21
urlin2uthere has been a update for the last two days that removes libreoffice, not sure this is the best time to upgrade.03:23
sjanssenurlin2u: wellll, I already started the upgrade03:24
sjanssenI fear my system might be in an inconsistent state03:24
urlin2uno back up of the original like a clone?03:26
sjanssenurlin2u: nope03:27
sjanssenI could always reinstall, it wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world03:27
robin0800ubuntu! migration03:30
sjanssensoo, any thoughts?  Even some hints on how to troubleshoot this would be great, logs I should check, etc.03:32
bjsniderwhat command did you use originally to upgrade?03:34
sjanssenbjsnider: just whatever updatemanager-d does03:35
sjanssenerm, update-manager -d03:35
bjsniderwell, go back and run the original command, find the name of the python package and try removing it. then run the command again03:35
sjanssenbjsnider: attempting to upgrade again with a partially upgraded system won't cause things to explode?03:36
bjsniderwell, to me, from what you've said, they've exploded already03:37
sjanssenok, explode worse :)03:38
bjsnideryou can check /var/log/dpkg.log too03:38
bjsniderand there's /var/log/dist-upgrade with some info inside03:39
sjanssenpyatspi2 is the package03:47
bjsnidernow, if you remove it, does it also force out anything else?03:48
sjanssenyikes, it wants to take tons of stuff03:48
sjansseng++-4.5 gcc-4.1 gcc-4.5 gnome-orca libstdc++6-4.5-dev python-pyatspi03:49
sjanssenoh, but then upgrade those packages03:49
bjsniderthat's all?03:49
sjanssenbjsnider: python-pyatspi2 is not installed on my system03:49
sjanssenseemingly conflicts with a package named "python-pyatspi" (ie, no 2)03:49
bjsnidersjanssen, were you using any ppa's before you upgraded?03:51
sjanssenbjsnider: yes03:51
bjsniderany that might affect that package?03:52
sjanssennot that I can tell, atspi is apparently "Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface", can't imagine that any PPA would have a special version of that03:53
bjsniderare you using the gnome 3 ppa?03:53
sjanssenno03:54
urlin2uupgrades turn off the ppa sources, and remove some iof the apps n the process03:54
bjsniderwell, anyway, it is safe to remove the package and then do the upgrade03:54
sjanssenok, thanks03:54
Gavekort_Hi! Does anyone have experience with the mount.ntfs skyrocketing in 11.10? It's constantly at 90% load, and it freezes my computer. It happened after this recent update.04:03
sjanssenbjsnider: I think the upgrade worked.  Thank you very much for your help04:33
* sjanssen is rebooting, probably won't be back if everything works04:34
LLStarkshi, can somebody explain multiarch to me?04:40
nhainesIt's like single-arch but there's more of it.04:42
nhainesLLStarks: it means the packaging system is smarter about systems that support multiple architectures.04:43
nhainesFor example, if you're on a 64-bit Intel/AMD processor, it can also support 32-bit code.04:43
nhainesSo in oneiric, you can install the official Adobe Flash plugin from Canonical on a 64-bit machine.04:43
nhainesAlso it'll only pull in the 32-bit libraries it needs, not a huge pack in a compatibility package.04:43
Johnny_GigglesI'm looking for a development platform to code Standard C on.  How's 11.10 looking for development compared to 10.04?04:45
nhainesJohnny_Giggles: it's hosting Ubuntu development well.  :)04:49
Johnny_Gigglesokay04:49
Johnny_GigglesAll I'm doing is K&R exercises.  Nothing really fancy.04:49
nhainesJohnny_Giggles: In that case, anyhthing should work.04:49
nhainesAlso pretend I didn't misspell "anything".04:50
Peddyis anyone else experiencing a black boot (plymouth) screen until the login window?05:10
Peddyyes, and is there a bug report?05:12
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nn52hey guys , how yo set up Nautilus as default menager in KDE4?07:24
bullgard4What does mean "and others" in http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libreoffice-base-core: "Package: libreoffice-base-core (1:3.4.3-1ubuntu1 and others)"?07:33
rwwbullgard5: that link doesn't say that, but if it did, it would mean there are multiple versions in the archive, probably because of a build failure of some sort07:37
TeTeThi, are there any other examples for multiarch support on oneiric but flashplugin?07:41
TeTeTgood old hello works too ;)07:42
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nocturnHi all09:59
nocturnHow can I prevent windows from opening fullscreen by default (Chromium, Thunderbird and Firefox do this)?10:00
laoenHi! Installed oneiric on asusn55n. Install went well, looks nice. Problem is reboot ends in black screen. Must restart in recovery mode, log in in text mode, then sudo- start lightdm. Then everything seems ok.  Any ideas?10:00
Lynourenocturn: at least in KDE you can take Advanced-> Special window settings, and the Geometry: Apply initially (whatever size you want)10:01
nocturnLynoure: this behaviour is new in 11.10 AFAIK10:02
nocturnSo I hoped to be able to turn it off ...10:02
Lynourenocturn: I think I just told you one way to turn it off...10:02
nocturnLynoure: thanks, but I'm on Ubuntu (Gnome), not kubuntu10:03
Lynourenocturn: ah, then sorry, don't know.10:03
laoenbtw onieric is xubuntu10:04
nocturnAnyone having problems with window focus in recent updates, and subsequent unity crashes?10:09
carli2the libreoffice dependency is broken since the latest update10:18
dupondjeno should be fixed now ?10:18
carli2and when i try to install openoffice instead, it says that it needs libreoffice10:21
carli2dupondje: not solved after update+install10:21
carli2http://paste.ubuntu.com/689049/ <- my sources.list10:23
dupondjewhy would you want openoffice ?10:25
carli2because libreoffice dependencies are broken10:26
carli2but openoffice, too10:26
dupondjelibreoffice depends are fixed since this morning10:28
dupondjejust updated it10:28
carli2sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libreoffice10:29
carli2http://paste.ubuntu.com/689058/10:30
carli2i hate localization for system tools10:30
carli2oder auf deutsch: voll scheiße, dass die jeden popel übersetzen müssen10:31
carli2uninstall all libreoffice packages and try to reinstall10:33
carli2dupondje: how long does it take to have the new deps on all mirror servers?10:40
carli2ah, it works after i loaded from main server10:42
carli2btw: there are bugs with gnome-terminal with resizing under awesome10:42
carli2and an other bug with maximized windows and moving under awsome10:43
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BluesKajHiyas all12:20
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knightstalkerHeyz,Can someone open Libreoffice and then open dash and see what happens?12:59
knightstalkerMy dash will open in the background,and wont get on the Libreoffice12:59
knightstalkerand also,can someone try Libreoffice Writer's Wizards?They don't work here13:00
peto_hello13:00
knightstalkerHey13:00
peto_where can I get the last beta (8 sep) of Oneiric?13:01
knightstalkerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule13:01
knightstalkerClick on Beta 1 There13:01
peto_thanks13:01
knightstalkerAnd it directs you to the download links13:01
knightstalkerWelcome13:01
PiciThe last link of the topic as well.13:01
drussellknightstalker: I can't reproduce your first issue, works as expected here13:02
knightstalkerdrussell,what about second one?13:03
drussellknightstalker: what wizards? I'm not familiar with them?13:03
peto_but... the beta1 link links you to the September 1st instead to the more recent September 8th ¿?13:04
knightstalkerpeto_,What I gave you is official,you can always download snapshots though13:05
knightstalkerNot that I recommend them13:05
Picipeto_: Are you looking for a daily image?13:05
drussellpeto_: best to install the official beta, and update it13:05
drussellpeto_: as the daily images may have *issues*13:06
knightstalkerdrussel,go to Libreoffice Writer,then File,Then wizards and click on letter for example13:06
drussellknightstalker: correct, I can confirm that's not working13:06
drussellknightstalker: might be this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/78039913:07
ubottuUbuntu bug 780399 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Wizard doesn't run without libreoffice-java-common installed. The user should be notified to install it when running a wizard." [Medium,Triaged]13:07
knightstalkerdrussell,oh thanks,and what about,clicking on Tools,Bibliography Database13:08
knightstalkerit crashes the whole libreoffice Writer here13:08
peto_I see, I will download the September 1st version thanks, (I thought that all images on this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule , including September's 8, were equaly reliable13:08
drussellknightstalker: ooh I was just about to type "doesn't do anything but also doesn't crash"13:09
drussellknightstalker: then it crashed :o)13:09
knightstalkerdrussell,Yayz13:09
knightstalkerIf you are so good you'd report that,My internet sucks on sending 9 mb to Launchpad13:09
knightstalkerI appreciate it :P13:10
knightstalkerAnyways,I cant reproduce the first issue anymore13:11
knightstalkerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52793813:13
ubottuUbuntu bug 527938 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "[upstream] Writer crashes when trying to set up Bibliography Database soffice.bin crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Triaged]13:13
drussellknightstalker: lol ahh had done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/84995713:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 849957 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "soffice.bin crashed with SIGABRT in raise() clicking on Tools,Bibliography Database in LibreOffice writer" [Undecided,New]13:15
peto_My computer runs GNU/Ubuntu 11.04.  If I run 11.10 beta 1 under Virtual Box, can I install it within the 8 GB VB gives to it ERASING ALL DISK confidently?13:26
peto_letting beta 1 make the partitions?13:27
peto_(virtual partitions, I suppose)13:27
peto_or is it more secure making the partitions by hand within the 8 GB virtual disk?13:29
drussellpeto_: auto should be fine13:29
peto_drussell, thank you, that seems logic13:30
peto_al13:30
tankdriverhow can I disable the login sound? I can not find it in gnome-session-properties anymore.13:55
OwaisLOkay, so this is the third time I'm typing this. :) My Skype topped working since the last update. It has some library version incompatibility.13:56
OwaisLFatal: Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40703) with this library (version 0x40704)13:56
tankdriverOwaisL: the package "skype" does not work on amd64 anymore. use "skype:i368" package.13:58
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gnomie_tankdriver: there is a volume control on the upper right corner of the login screen. try that already?14:00
gnomie_quassel..14:01
tankdrivergnomie_: yes, it worked. thank you. (the icon appeared "muted", but after increasing and decreasing volume to minimum, it was ok)14:03
gnomie_tankdriver: you use quassel under gnome? how is it?14:03
tankdriverit works. ^^14:03
gnomie_cool14:03
tankdriverindicator stuff works flawlessly too.14:05
gnomie_quassel is my fav .. only second to irssi though  heh14:05
gnomie_>:)14:05
tankdriver.. but I miss the URL-Preview feature in oneiric14:06
gnomie_:(14:06
gnomie_bummer14:07
gnomie_thats a handy feature for avoiding rickrolls14:07
gnomie_quassel is the only one with such thing that i know of too14:08
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OwaisLtankdriver: I'm using skype:i38614:21
bjsniderOwaisL, ldd /usr/bin/skype |grep -i Qt15:06
bjsniderpasebin output15:07
bjsnideryou may need to sudo that command15:07
OwaisLbjsnider, http://pastebin.com/FgDU5Zmn15:11
bjsniderOwaisL, when was the last update?15:12
OwaisLIt stopped working since Sunday I guess15:13
OwaisLMy packages are up to date, updated them just 20 mins ago15:13
OwaisLbjsnider, ^15:13
bjsnider/usr/lib32/libQtDBus.so.415:13
bjsniderthat is not correct15:13
bjsnideri think that is the problem15:13
bjsniderinstall libqt4-dbus:i38615:14
bjsniderfind out whatever package it is that's providing that file15:15
OwaisLit's  already installed15:15
bjsnideryou might have an old ia32-libs or one from a ppa installed15:15
dupondjebleh :Âs15:17
dupondjeseems I reported like 10 bugs the last 2 days15:17
dupondjenot cool :)15:17
bjsniderif you look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/i386/libqt4-dbus/filelist15:17
bjsniderthe correct path for that file is /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtDBus.so.415:17
OwaisLthanks bjsinder, I'll check it out and let you know15:18
bjsnideryou should check to make sure you have hte above file installed, track down what is providing the other version and then remove it and run sudo ldconfig afterwards15:19
bjsniderpretty sure this is a consequence of the move to multiarch in oneiric15:19
dupondjeLANGUAGE=nl:en_AU:en15:23
dupondjethis changes randomly ?15:24
dupondjeprevious boot it was chinese ...15:24
OwaisLI did a "sudo dpkg -S /usr/lib32/libQtDBus.so.4" but that couldn't find the package. Just moved libQtDBus.so.4 o libQtDbus.so.4.bak and it worked15:24
OwaisLdjsnider, thanks a ton.15:24
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bjsniderit must have somehow been left over from an old ia32-libs package15:25
OwaisLright15:25
bjsnideri don't understnd how that could happen, but maybe an upgrade was interrupted or whatever15:25
OwaisLshould that not leave dpkg in broken state?15:26
bjsniderwell, let's say you lose electricity or something15:26
OwaisLhmm, that might be the case15:27
bjsnidermaybe you did a manual configure/make make install on a package a while back and it put thatfile there and then you never did a make uninstall15:27
OwaisLanyways, thanks for the help.15:27
OwaisLyes, I was fidling around with touchegg and some other qt apps source15:28
OwaisLthat must be it15:28
bjsniderwell, you might have other issues then15:28
OwaisLGot to go for dinner now. :) bye15:29
bjsnideryou could rebuild that software and then do a make uninstall15:29
OwaisLsure, will do that.15:30
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Uatechi there17:45
Uateci installed 11.10 but i can no longer find the Extra Effects option in gnome to enable fancy effects like wobbly windows, etc17:45
Uatecwhere has this gone?17:46
Uatec(using gnome classic)17:46
rww!ccsm17:46
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz17:46
Uateclol, compizconfig-settings-manager just crashes17:48
Uatecand simple-ccsm causes dependency breaks so i can't install it :(I17:50
kjeldahl`Yeah, the situation is terrible.17:51
Uateclol17:52
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FernandoMiguelevening18:47
james296can anyone here tell me why my clock isnt showing the time at all? All its showing is the word Time18:51
dbmitim having a problem installing oneiric on my pc18:59
dbmitis there anyone who can help me19:00
james296it seems no one here is talking today19:01
Exodusdbmit, describe your problem and if someone is here and knows how to help you we will19:01
james296Exodus could you help me with the problem I asked about before?19:01
james296about the clock only saying the word Time instead of the actual time?19:02
Exodusjames296, I just got here 5min ago19:02
james296ok19:02
Exodusjames296, clock in Unity?19:02
james296I asked about it just now19:02
james296yes19:02
dbmitok so i tried to install and it goes through the whole process then it gets to the point where the background is displayed but the desktop or successful install wont pop up19:03
Exodusjames296, maybe you have your time offset wrong19:03
james296no matter what I try I cant seem to make it show the current time19:03
Exodusjames296, have you set your location?19:03
james296it says under the Time and Date settings 3:03pm19:03
james296I tried that yes19:03
Exodusjames296, when you check the location does it display the correct location?19:03
james296no matter where I click it STILL says Time19:03
james296it just says localtime and nothing is selected19:04
james296but even if I select something its still the same19:04
dbmit??19:04
Exodusjames296, is Network Time enabled?19:04
james296I guess so, the option Automatically from the Internet is enabled19:05
Exodusdbmit, it's difficult to know what went wrong with just that information, could you maybe supply some log files?19:05
dbmithow do i get to them?19:05
Exodusjames296, so you have your correct location set and the network time setting is enabled, yet it's not the correct time?19:06
james296correct19:06
Exodusdbmit, hmm, install logs, can't remember where they are, but check /var/log/ for that19:07
james296it doesnt display any time19:07
james296just the word Time19:07
Exodusany time? =O19:07
Exodusjames296, can you supply a screenshot?19:07
dbmitthrough the command line correct?19:07
james296whats the easiest way to do that in Ubuntu?19:07
Exodusjust hit print screen19:07
Exodusupload it to any image site19:08
james296well what if I just want a screenshot of the area that the problem is at?19:08
Exodushm, edit the image than, gimp19:08
james296so theres no way to crop the screen easily?19:09
Exodusnot from the screenshot ¬¬19:09
ExodusTo crop the screenshot use an image manipulation tool like GIMP19:10
james296can I send you the pic?19:10
urlin2ujames296, select an area to grab in screenshot19:10
james296did you get it?19:11
ExodusDoesn't seem it's getting sent19:11
ExodusUpload it somewhere, it's better for others to chip in if they have the ss too19:11
james296ok, so how else can I send it to you?19:11
ExodusThere are several sites you can upload a pic too that provide an easy link19:12
james296such as?19:12
Exodushttp://imgur.com/19:12
james296uploading19:13
james296http://imgur.com/mj6DV19:14
dbmitexodus, i tried that and it says is a directory19:14
james296see what I mean Exodus?19:15
Exodusdbmit, /var/log/ is a directory, there are log files in there :P19:16
Exodusjames296, is the map not clickeable for you?19:16
dbmitok nso how do i open?19:16
Exodusor the Location text input not editable?19:16
james296no its clickable19:16
Exodusdbmit, log files are usually just text files unless they're handled by some log file archiver and they're ziped19:17
james296hold on, I'll show you19:17
Exodusjames296, click your location, does the text not change? (What a weird bug)19:17
james296no it doesnt change19:17
james296here19:18
james296http://imgur.com/hkjkx19:18
Exodusjames296, have you updated your system?19:18
james296yes as up to date as it can get19:18
Exodusjames296, click somewhere else, like, in Asia, does it not change the time in that window?19:21
james296I just tried clicking everywhere on there, still the same thing...19:21
james296are you telling me Im the only person getting this problem? does it have to do with the hardware of my computer?19:23
james296I already installed the ntp package for network time or whatever it is19:23
Exodusjames296, pretty much, but still, lets fix it19:23
james296ok19:24
Exodusjames296, it's already installed in Ubuntu by the ntpdate package19:24
james296no, it wasnt installed19:24
Exodusyou should uninstall the ntp package if you installed it19:24
james296I had to install it19:24
Exodusntpdate package handles that19:24
james296ok hold on19:24
Exodus'ntpdate' comes with Ubuntu19:24
james296ok done19:25
james296still same problem19:25
Exodusjames296, ok, lets try manually19:26
james296I did that already19:26
james296nothing19:26
Exodusjames296, pretty much what the graphical app should do19:26
Exoduswhat did you try?19:26
james296manually19:26
ExodusDefine: manually19:26
Exodusdid you change your /etc/localtime?19:26
james296I click the manually button, nothing changes19:26
Exodusahh hehe19:26
Exodusno no19:26
ExodusI mean do the changes from the terminal19:27
ExodusManually19:27
ExodusInstead of graphically19:27
james296is that really necessary?19:27
james296Im a GUI kinda guy lol19:27
Exodusjames296, it's just 3 lines19:27
Exodusjames296, and since you have this weird error it's a way to fix it19:28
james296well I know if I try to save changes from the root folder, I cant, because Im not a root user19:28
Exodusjames296, open a terminal19:28
Exodusopen the Unity menu and type 'term' and hit enter19:28
Exodusor alt f2 and type: gnome-terminal19:28
james296got that19:28
Exodusok19:28
Exodusby the ss you want new york?19:29
james296yes19:29
Exodustype this:19:30
james296so now what?19:30
Exodussudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York /etc/localtime19:30
Exoduswell, that might give an error19:30
james296it says file exists19:30
Exodussudo ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York /etc/localtime19:30
Exodusthe 'f' forces the file to be overwritten19:31
james296ok I did that doesnt show any output, but it still looks the same...19:31
james296this is quite a challenge here isnt it?19:32
Exodusok, now type: sudo ntpdate-debian19:33
Exodusnow type: date19:33
Exodusand copy/paste me the output19:34
james296ntpdate[6268]: adjust time server 204.9.54.119 offset -0.012323 sec19:34
Exodusnot that output, the output from date19:34
Exodustype: date19:34
FernandoMiguelfor those that read what I wrote about http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/ yesterdat19:34
ExodusThat output19:34
FernandoMiguelit shaved 5 secs from the total time19:34
FernandoMigueland 10 secs from boot19:34
james296Wed Sep 14 15:34:05 EDT 201119:34
james296it still says Time just so you know19:35
Exodusjames296, well, the time is correct at least, it's just not showing in Unity19:36
Exoduseverything underlying Unity is alright19:36
james296right19:36
james296so why is it showing just time?19:36
Exodusdo you have the 'indicator-datetime' package installed?19:37
james296not sure19:38
james296yes19:38
Ian_Corne google-talkplugin : Depends: lib32v4l-0 but it is not installable19:38
Ian_Corne:(19:38
Kohelethgeez cant subit crashes with being asked to signup to lauanchpadn this new,19:39
james296theres a ppa for that I do believe Ian19:39
KohelethCant I give the info anon now?19:40
james296so now what Exodus?19:40
Exodusjames296, this is your bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/80475419:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 804754 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "[Oneiric] unity-panel-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_date_time_unref()" [Medium,Fix released]19:41
Ian_Cornehttp://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/4719:41
Ian_Cornethis one james296 ?19:41
KohelethIan_Corne:  is that a bible verse!19:41
james296yes19:41
Koheleth:)19:42
Ian_Cornewhat Koheleth ? :p19:42
james296so what can I do Exodus?19:43
Kohelethguys everytime 11.10 crashes I am asked to login to launchpad is this a new bug or comercial thing lol19:43
Exodusjames296, wait for the update to hit the repositories :-)19:43
james296grrrrrrrrrrrrr19:43
Exodusjames296, you can also install gnome-shell19:43
Kohelethanger gets no ne nowhere19:43
james296yes I just did that, lol19:43
Exodusjames296, I actually use gnome-shell19:44
james296yeah I used it in fedora 1519:44
james296very nice19:44
james296Im gonna log off and give it a shot now19:44
james296bye Exodus thanks for the help19:45
Exodusjames296, np19:45
james296Exodus19:50
james296question19:50
james296why is it that my status is unavailable next to my name?19:50
james296in Gnome-shell19:51
FernandoMiguelFYI diff speed before and after  http://bootcharts.f.bugabundo.net/19:52
FernandoMiguelhttp://e4rat.sourceforge.net/19:53
james296damn, gnome shell crashes more than Unity...19:53
h00k!netsplit20:09
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit20:09
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ianm_new bug in Luz in Oneiric, linker errors for SDL, Gtk, seemingly everything https://bugs.launchpad.net/luz/+bug/830733 see the log file there.  ring any bells?21:29
ubottuUbuntu bug 830733 in Luz "Cannot build Luz on Ubuntu Oneiric" [High,Confirmed]21:29
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* gnomie besieges you daily with unity2D! 21:44
trismianm_: quick guess looking at the build log, the libraries are listed before the code files your compiling, I don't think it will be able to resolve symbols that way with the new setup from http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking (I'm still waiting for luz to branch so I can test it)21:53
ianm_trism: thanks I appreciate it!21:58
lusepusterI just upgraded to Oneiric beta1, but have met a number of issues, just wanna chack if they are well known or are specific pecause of some long-forgotten tampering with my system... First: in the UNity panel, the date/time applet just says "time" instead of showing date and time? I have to open the applet menu to see anything22:07
trismianm_: yeah that seems to be it, just move *.cc in {input-manager,spectrum-analyzer}/Makefile to the start of the gcc command (I did something like: gcc -o input-manager *.cc <libs here>)22:08
lusepusterSecond, I only have one workspace/virtual desktop and cannot seem to create more... Is that due to the reverting to gtk-window-decorator?22:08
ianm_trism: fantastic thank you so much!22:08
dupondjecould somebody execute 'locale -a | grep -F .utf8' and give me its output?22:08
urlin2ulusepuster, you are using the virtual drivers.22:10
lusepusterurlin2u, the virtual drivers for what, and how can I fix it?22:11
robin0800lusepuster, go to time & date settings to add date etc. you should have four workspaces accessible from the launcher22:11
urlin2ulusepuster, your in a virtual right?22:11
lusepusterurlin2u, nope, it's on a partition22:12
urlin2ulusepuster, I misunderstood.22:12
lusepusterrobin0800, I know I should, yet there's only one.22:12
lusepusterrobin0800, also, I already have four different locations, yet instead of saying the time in the panel it says the word "time".22:13
lusepusterAlso, since upgrade to Oneiric, Banshee crashes when I open it...22:15
robin0800lusepuster, well there's something wrong afraid I can't help22:16
dupondjecould somebody execute 'locale -a | grep -F .utf8' and give me its output?22:16
IdleOne!notunity | famine_22:21
ubottufamine_: To use GNOME Shell on Oneiric, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place a new entry in the Sessions dropdown on the login window.22:21
famine_another question....how do I stop using GDM or whatever? i want to boot into a console not a graphic enviroment22:22
IdleOne!nox22:23
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode22:23
famine_okay...where is the grub.conf located? its not in /boot/grub/22:25
famine_this is my first run with ubuntu, always used gentoo before22:25
IdleOne!grub222:26
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)22:26
jtaylorfamine_: there is no grub.conf anymore I thing, grub2 config is in /etc/grub.d/22:26
IdleOne/boot/grub/grub.cfg22:27
famine_okay, lets see how this is now. thanks brb22:28
* psusi wonders why the other distros have yet to move to grub222:28
psusiit's like still using LILO...22:28
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famineare there any gnome themes anywhere in apt?  i want to the close program/minimize/maximize on the right hand size instead of left (in gome3)22:46
TheSimkinapt-cache search gnome theme22:49
robin0800famine, in gnome shell they are on the right I think and the left in unity22:49
famineim in gnome shell22:50
faminethey are on left22:50
faminesame as unity22:51
faminehmmm, changing the theme doesnt change where the buttons22:52
famineare22:52
TheSimkinfamine: are you knew to linux?22:53
TheSimkinnew even22:53
robin0800famine, you can install gnome-standard themes plus others are in the software centre22:53
famineno im new to ubuntu22:53
faminei used gentoo for years22:54
faminenever used unity/gnome3 or apt before22:54
IdleOnefamine: you might want to give a quick read to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto22:56
famineya I understand the basics, im just finding it frustrating for the little stuff...like getting these damn close/minimize/maximize icons on the right instead of the left22:57
IdleOne!controls22:59
ubottuStarting in Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more informationand workarounds, please see http://pad.lv/53263322:59
IdleOnenot sure if that still applies22:59
IdleOneleast not since. I could be wrong23:00
IdleOne11.0423:00
TheSimkinfamine: ahh, i was going to recommend kde but if you used gentoo i am sure you are alrady familiar with kde.23:00
TheSimkin<3 gentoo and kde.23:00
TheSimkinthe only distros i use any more.23:01
TheSimkingentoo and ubuntu!23:01
faminei prefer gnome over kde23:01
faminei like e17 too23:01
TheSimkini did for a little bit23:01
faminebut im most productive on a gnome2 desktop23:01
TheSimkinwhen 4.x just came out23:01
TheSimkinit was AWFUL23:01
TheSimkinbut 4.7.1 is almost where 3.5.10 was23:01
famineya I dunno, it doesnt matter what theme I select, the buttons are always on the right hand side23:06
famineahhh23:07
faminegot it23:07
faminenice23:07
almoxarifehaving dependency issues with googletalk plugin amd64, anyone else?23:09
famine_okay, another question, how can I install an older version of firefox? i need a firefox 3.x for quakelive plugin23:10
BluesKajso what is the flash fix now that the seven machines ppa is nmo longer valid23:55
BluesKajno longer valid23:55
nhaineswhat did the seven machines PPA do?23:57
BluesKajthe ppa key is no longer working23:58
BluesKajqand flash is no longer working23:58
nhainesWhat's wrong with the Ubuntu or the Canonical repo?23:58
BluesKajdunno , haven't tried it yet23:59

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