[00:04] <duanedesign> #startmeeting
[00:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Sep 14 00:04:13 2011 UTC.  The chair is duanedesign. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[00:07] <pleia2> o/
[00:07] <duanedesign> Me and SilverFox have been reviewing chaarles wiki page outlining Beginners Team changes
[00:08] <duanedesign> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/cprofitt/sandbox
[00:09] <pleia2> it seems we're a bit stalled on this, some direction from the council would be helpful
[00:10] <duanedesign> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/cprofitt/sandbox
[00:10] <duanedesign> I agreee
[00:10] <duanedesign> I am working on an email
[00:11] <duanedesign> what do you think of the ides about the Focus Group changes?
[00:11] <duanedesign> User: This group is for new users making the transition to Ubuntu
[00:11] <duanedesign> Contributor: This group is for non-developers looking to contribute and includes areas such as documentation, bug triage and quality assurance.
[00:12] <duanedesign> Developer: This group is for people hoping to become core Ubuntu or application developers.
[00:12] <pleia2> I think as little structure as possible is best, BT is essentially a mentoring organization and too much structure can be just as bad as too little
[00:13] <duanedesign> i like the idea of making thr core team open
[00:14] <duanedesign> if you want to join the docs team you should not have to join BT first
[00:15] <pleia2> yeah
[00:15] <duanedesign> their is no easy solution on meetings and the different time zones
[00:16] <duanedesign> One thing that is not on Charles sandbox is tncorporating the mailing list more
[00:16] <duanedesign> incorporating*
[00:16] <pleia2> the best you can do is post the logs/minutes after the meeting and encourage feedback on the list
[00:16] <duanedesign> Similar to what the Bug Squad is doing
[00:17] <duanedesign> assigning a mentor to every mentee is a difficult task
[00:18] <duanedesign> encouraging the use of a mailing list can help
[00:20] <duanedesign> #ACTION send an email to the mailing list outlining the suggested changes and timeline for those changes
[00:20] <meetingology> ACTION: send an email to the mailing list outlining the suggested changes and timeline for those changes
[00:21] <duanedesign> ok i need to fix my borked oneiric install. If nobody has anything else....
[00:22] <pleia2> thanks duanedesign
[00:22] <duanedesign> thank you pleia2
[00:22]  * starcraftman is little late but here for a change. :)
[00:22] <duanedesign> hello starcraftman
[00:22] <pleia2> oh! one thing real quick
[00:22] <starcraftman> evening duanedesign :)
[00:22] <pleia2> we're still looking for some https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays instructors
[00:23] <pleia2> it's next Saturday, the 24th, need some instructors for some basic applications classes
[00:23] <starcraftman> pleia2: still short huh? Sad, want me to do a second session?
[00:23] <pleia2> starcraftman: maybe, I'll still try to fill them before askign you :)
[00:23] <duanedesign> pleia2: that is right. I had someone ask me and I agrreed to do an Ubuntu One class.
[00:24] <starcraftman> hi Unit193
[00:24] <Unit193> starcraftman: Hello sir
[00:24] <pleia2> duanedesign: oh good, can you have a look at the schedule on the wiki when you have a chance and let me know what time?
[00:24] <starcraftman> pleia2: Ok, I don't mind too much.
[00:24] <duanedesign> pleia2: I will
[00:24] <pleia2> much appreciated
[00:24] <starcraftman> Unit193: pshhhhhhhhhhhhh, don't call me sir, gonna make me feel old >.>.
[00:25] <Unit193> starcraftman: That was the idea ;)  Just noticed meeting here
[00:25] <duanedesign> #LINK https://wiki.ubuntu.com/cprofitt/sandbox
[00:25] <starcraftman> Unit193: thou art evil, sir. I like :)
[00:27] <duanedesign> starcraftman: not sure when you came in but we just need to start moving foward on charles ideas
[00:29] <starcraftman> duanedesign: reading up now, you can carry on as I speed read. Don't want to hold up meeting.
[00:29] <duanedesign> the council has discused the ideas and is putting together an email so we can moce forward
[00:29] <duanedesign> starcraftman: no worries that was really all i had
[00:29] <starcraftman> quite the series of changes, seems good so far. Always thought too much formality was slowing us down a bit.
[00:30] <duanedesign> true, pleia thought the same
[00:30] <highvoltage> win 22
[00:30] <JoseeAntonioR> Hi!
[00:31] <philipballew> hello
[00:31] <duanedesign> hello
[00:31] <JoseeAntonioR> I am willing to assist with the UserDay if I can
[00:31] <philipballew> arnt we all?
[00:32] <duanedesign> JoseeAntonioR: great. I think pleia2 or nigelb  are who you want to talk to
[00:32] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2 mentioned some basic applications classess.. what do you refer with basic applications?
[00:33] <starcraftman> duanedesign: question related to plan, are we mostly on track with written timeline?
[00:33] <duanedesign> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays
[00:33] <JoseeAntonioR> Then, pleia2, nigelb, are you here?
[00:33] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: you'd give an intro do an application and answer questions about it, like if you wanted to do thunderbird you'd explain what it is, how to set up your email, maybe how filters work
[00:33] <duanedesign> starcraftman: no the timeline needs to move forward
[00:33] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: you can join us in #ubuntu-classroom-backstage to discuss if you want :)
[00:34] <JoseeAntonioR> Going there!
[00:34] <starcraftman> duanedesign: ok, I'll hopefully be around more going forward, I'm planning/scheduling stuff. It's unthinkable.
[00:34] <duanedesign> starcraftman: so we can change June to Sept
[00:34] <duanedesign> starcraftman: great!
[00:34] <starcraftman> duanedesign: ah, I see. :)
[00:34] <philipballew> is there anything I can help with here?
[00:36] <duanedesign> Ok I will work on getting the email to the Beginners Team Mailing List and if their is no other Begnners Team matters I will end the meeting'
[00:36] <philipballew> sounds good
[00:36] <starcraftman> duanedesign: ok.
[00:36] <duanedesign> philipballew: what did you want to help with? Beginners Team or User Day?
[00:36] <philipballew> duanedesign, both!
[00:37] <duanedesign> :) great
[00:37] <philipballew> thats why i am here at the meeting duanedesign
[00:37] <philipballew> :)
[00:37] <duanedesign> The Beginners Team channel is #ubuntu-beginners-team
[00:38] <philipballew> i am aware. I provide tech support on there. Lately its been at night
[00:38] <duanedesign> our wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[00:38] <philipballew> lets trade duanedesign  :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/philipballew
[00:39] <duanedesign> philipballew: we are working on some changes to make jjoining the Beginners Team easier
[00:40] <philipballew> I know. I have wanted to become a "member" for a little while and figured id joun the meeting here to see if it was gonna change about how i did so
[00:42] <duanedesign> philipballew: if you want you can join our mailinglist to keep up on the upcoming changes https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-beginners
[00:42] <duanedesign> ok i need to run. #endmeeting
[00:43] <Unit193> Newline
[00:43] <duanedesign> #endmeeting
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[00:43] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Sep 14 00:43:18 2011 UTC.
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[00:43] <duanedesign> Unit193: thank you :)
[00:43] <philipballew> awesome!
[00:43] <Unit193> duanedesign: Anytime :)
[00:44] <duanedesign> philipballew: thank you for attending
[00:45] <philipballew> no worries :)
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[15:01]  * slangasek waves
[15:01] <ev> hiya
[15:01] <mvo> hello
[15:01]  * stgraber waves
[15:02] <bdmurray> hi
[15:02] <barry> hiya
[15:02] <jhunt> o/
[15:02] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Sep 14 15:02:26 2011 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[15:02] <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
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[15:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e cjwatson barry doko stgraber jhunt mvo ev bdmurray slangasek)
[15:02] <slangasek> stgraber doko barry bdmurray cjwatson ev slangasek jhunt mvo
[15:02] <slangasek> stgraber: heya
[15:02] <stgraber> hey!
[15:03] <stgraber> - IPv6
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Made some progress on automated testing. I now have scripts generating all the needed networks, configurations and LXC containers (router and tester).
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Did some manual testing of the DUID changes by cyphermox (bug 849994)
[15:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 849994 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "FFE: add NetworkManager DUID support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/849994
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Will run a batch of manual tests of netcfg as automating them is taking longer than expected (I really need to find a way of running d-i in a LXC container ;))
[15:03] <stgraber> - iSCSI
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Made some progress on bug 838809. The problem is that open-iscsi is now being started at boot time ;)
[15:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 838809 in Ubuntu Oneiric "authenticated and unauthenicated iscsi clients fails to complete boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838809
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Need to spend more time finding a way of starting iscsid without disconnecting existing sessions.
[15:03] <stgraber>  - An easy workaround would be to "exit 0" when open-iscsi detects that we have run iscsistart in the initrd. This would restore the old behaviour.
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Problem with the workaround (and the pre-Oneiric open-iscsi) is that we only mount one lun from initramfs (the one needed for /), any other luns defined in /etc/iscsi aren't getting connected.
[15:03] <stgraber> - friendly-recovery
[15:03] <stgraber>  - With the suggestions of James and Colin, got a bunch of debdiffs attached to bug 575469
[15:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 575469 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[UIFe] [FFe] recovery mode mounts filesystems read-write rather than read-only" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575469
[15:03] <stgraber>  - This moves friendly-recovery out of /usr, add a read-only mode and splits recovery and single-mode into two different things. Currently waiting for the FFe and UIFe.
[15:03] <stgraber> - TODO
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Figure out how we want to fix that open-iscsi bug
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Do a last seed review and update for Edubuntu, possibly dropping at least Gnome Nanny (doesn't seem to work...)
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Finish the automated IPv6 testing and push the code somewhere
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Still need to spend more time trying to get TPM working in a PPA
[15:03] <mvo> \o/ 575469
[15:04] <doko> - NBS, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html looks mucher nicer now ;)
[15:04] <slangasek> stgraber: what's the status of getting the ipv6 automated testing handed off to qa?
[15:04] <slangasek> do we expect that in place between now and release?
[15:05] <stgraber> slangasek: I'm first trying to get it working here ;) I'll have it running daily on a box of mine and will send the scripts to QA
[15:05] <stgraber> slangasek: I don't expect we'll have working IPv6 in DC very soon so it may take a while until it's running on QA infrastructure
[15:05] <slangasek> hmmm, ok
[15:06] <stgraber> at least the current implementation runs on LXC so I can get it running on anything that I have around and has ipv6 connectivity.
[15:06] <slangasek> doko: nbs> yay!
[15:07] <doko> - and FTBFS 7x24
[15:07] <doko> ..
[15:07] <stgraber> from what we discussed at the sprint, it seemed unlikely we'd be allowed to get an IPv6 tunnel or native connectivity from the QA infrastructure, at least not quickly.
[15:07] <doko> who did want to look at indicator-applet?
[15:07] <slangasek> stgraber: maybe the test configs should include a router with a tunnel?
[15:07] <slangasek> hmm
[15:08] <slangasek> doko: surely that should be flagged to the desktop team to clear up?
[15:08] <cjwatson> I thought it had been and they kind of stalled
[15:08] <doko> I'll assign it
[15:09] <slangasek> doko: thanks
[15:09] <stgraber> slangasek: I guess I could have the router act as a DNS server and HTTP proxy which might be enough to install and run some tests when we don't actually have public ipv6 connectivity
[15:09] <slangasek> doko: anything else?  Perhaps something you were working on during day 8 of the week, or hours 25-26 :)
[15:09] <doko> ohh, it is, bug 829491
[15:09] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 829491 in indicator-applet (Ubuntu Oneiric) "indicator-applet version 0.4.12-0ubuntu1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829491
[15:10]  * cjwatson gets slangasek a moon on a stic
[15:10] <cjwatson> *stick
[15:10] <doko> no, only openjdk-7 update, fortran rebuild, and some unrelated bug fixes
[15:10] <cjwatson> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/moon-on-stick.jpeg
[15:10] <slangasek> deep-fried, I trust
[15:10] <slangasek> haha
[15:10] <barry> :)
[15:10] <barry> i guess i'm up then...
[15:11] <barry> bug 407862; bug 839588; bug 621242; bug 831102; bug 835001; bug 770882; python bug 11715 (multiarch on kubuntu); python27 for lucid work (not totally given up yet, but close :).  done.
[15:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 407862 in Rsyslog "Messages not being sent to system logs" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407862
[15:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 839588 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "Python 2.7 unable to find it's header files in virtualenv" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839588
[15:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 621242 in mocker (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[MIR] mocker" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621242
[15:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 831102 in python-django-nova (Ubuntu Oneiric) "python-django-nova version 0.3~git20110711-0ubuntu1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831102
[15:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 835001 in pyacidobasic (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pyacidobasic version 1.0-3 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835001
[15:11] <cjwatson> stgraber: could use tayga and totd to do NAT64 :-)
[15:11] <cjwatson> maybe
[15:11] <bdmurray> branch and merge proposal for apport to add the apport version to apport bug reports
[15:11] <bdmurray> branch and merge proposal for ubiquity apport source package hook changes
[15:12] <bdmurray> merge proposal / upload for dkms apport hook fixing bug 816199
[15:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 816199 in dkms (Ubuntu) "dkms_packages.py crashed with ValueError in _apt_pkg(): package does not exist" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/816199
[15:12] <barry> hmm, i thought i uploaded the fix for 839588
[15:12] <bdmurray> review and merging of bugpattern branchs from Vadim
[15:12] <bdmurray> review of bug patterns merge proposal(s) from RedSingularity
[15:12] <bdmurray> wrote, tested and added a bzr plugin for bug pattern commits
[15:12] <bdmurray> blog post regarding bugpattern_written bzr plugin
[15:12] <bdmurray> porting of patch subscription script to bug bot, modification of process to add a comment and subscriber ubuntu-sponsors to debdiff attachments
[15:12] <bdmurray> research into using bug_supervisor advanced search parameter in the web user interface
[15:12] <bdmurray> modified / updated launchpad greasemonkey tagging script to work again (been broken for about a year)
[15:12] <bdmurray> ubuntu bug day no package bug participation
[15:12] <bdmurray> ubuntu bug squad meeting
[15:12] <bdmurray> done
[15:13] <cjwatson> FTBFS; 40+ so far this week.
[15:13] <cjwatson> Repeated attempts to get an ubuntu-defaults-image build to work on the livefs buildds.  Finally succeeded today so am unblocked on dealing with the publishing scripts; that's my next task.
[15:13] <cjwatson> Firefighting eglibc/apt breakage yesterday due to C.UTF-8 collation order change.
[15:13] <cjwatson> Arranged for oem-config et al to be on the USB images again.
[15:13] <cjwatson> Waiting for RT#47856 resolution to complete multiarch-translations.
[15:13] <cjwatson> ..
[15:13] <ev> - Very short week; at Linux Plumbers and vacation on Tuesday.
[15:13] <ev> - Catching up on emails. Coordinating installer testing with Gema of QA.
[15:13] <ev> - Slideshow merges.
[15:13] <ev> - Fixes to the wireless networking page when an AP disappears.
[15:13] <ev> - Progress on setting the wallpaper in the GDK3 world.
[15:13] <ev> (done)
[15:14] <stgraber> cjwatson: oh, indeed, nat64 could do the trick. I'll need to poke at it once I get the rest of the test setup working :)
[15:15] <slangasek> short week for me, what with being on vacation through Monday
[15:16] <slangasek> proposed an FFe for plymouth to get flicker-free boot enabled with lightdm; one-liner change, but could use some more testing from folks with different video hardware
[15:16] <mvo> I can test it with the free ati drivers if that helps
[15:16] <slangasek> (bug #849954)
[15:16] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 849954 in plymouth (Ubuntu Oneiric) "FFe: enable flicker-free boot with lightdm" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/849954
[15:16] <slangasek> mvo: that would be most welcome!
[15:17] <slangasek> also spent some time on a plane hacking on a startpar-upstart bridge, so that we can push a usable upstart into Debian
[15:17] <slangasek> ...and working on email backlog
[15:18] <slangasek> that's about it :)
[15:18] <slangasek> jhunt:
[15:18] <jhunt> Still finishing tests for Upstart job logging (necessitated 122 *new*
[15:18] <jhunt> tests so far!). Would be beneficial to have access to a system with NFS
[15:18] <jhunt> home directories. Merged code into Ubuntu branch and updated my
[15:18] <jhunt> "upstart-testing" PPA. Works, but with caveats: display manager doesn't
[15:18] <jhunt> initialize (who needs a GUI right? :), and there are minor problems with
[15:18] <jhunt> dbus and getty (currently investigating). One of the new tests has found
[15:18] <jhunt> a kernel bug. I've whipped up a test case and the fix looks relatively
[15:18] <jhunt> easy so I might have a go at that soon. Recreated problem on bug
[15:18] <jhunt> 818177. Tested with new kernel but no change. Trying to better
[15:18] <jhunt> understand the problem, but will need to talk to slangasek/cjwatson on
[15:18] <jhunt> this one.
[15:18] <jhunt> ❖
[15:18] <cjwatson> I'm afraid the last time I had NFS home directories anywhere was at job-2
[15:18] <cjwatson> (and good riddance)
[15:18] <jhunt> hey, me too! :)
[15:19] <mvo> vacation last week!
[15:19] <mvo> this week:
[15:19] <mvo> lots and lots and lots of mail catchup
[15:19] <mvo> aptdaemon: new bzr fixes snapshot reviewed/tested/uploaded
[15:19] <mvo> command-not-found-data update
[15:19] <mvo> software-center: debug database corruption issue again and hopefully fix threading race via thread specific xapiandb, review/merge lp:~mmcg069/software-center/submit-review-fixes, add simple get_title_from_html helper for the exhibits html, fix single item exhibits, show non-apps in exhibit lists as well, reenable plugins, add conflict for old oneconf, update example plugin, load plugins from the homedir as well, debug/fix exhibits banner re
[15:19] <mvo> ndering bug, include new default banner
[15:19] <mvo> apt: branch merges, cherry pick fix for sbuild breakage (lp: #816155), debug apt-ftparchive hang and fix it in lp:~mvo/apt/lucid-apt-ftparchive, cherry pick r2171 from lp:~donkult/apt/sid, fix double delete (thanks to cjwatson mostly) and upload new version
[15:19] <mvo> update-manager: debug/fix incorrect way of calling --with=python2, upload new version, branch merges
[15:19] <mvo> (EOF)
[15:19] <nullcore> i have an NFS system if you need access to it
[15:19] <nullcore> i use it for SELinux development, but i have a pristine setup as well that i could give you an account on
[15:19] <nullcore> sorry for interrupting
[15:20] <jhunt> nullcore: thanks - np :)
[15:21] <barry> sadly i still use nfs on my nas
[15:21] <slangasek> I have plenty of NFS here, but homes? yick
[15:22] <jhunt> well, nfs root would be good to start with.
[15:22]  * jhunt wants a netapp :)
[15:22] <slangasek> heh, not sure nfs root is where I would start :)
[15:22] <slangasek> considering it's been in varying states of disrepair since upstart was introduced, I think
[15:23]  * stgraber is glad LTSP switched away from nfs root a while ago ;)
[15:23] <slangasek> [TOPIC] burndown chartz
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[15:23] <slangasek> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-foundations.html
[15:24] <slangasek> looks like we've got some accounting to do :)
[15:24] <slangasek> I'm going through this week to postpone workitems that we know should be postponed; please do the same for your own workitems
[15:25] <slangasek> so the release manager doesn't worry about all those features we're landing the day before release
[15:25] <slangasek> I may come knocking on doors individually to discuss workitems as needed
[15:25] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
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[15:25] <slangasek> anything else on your minds?
[15:26]  * barry thanks cjwatson for the pointer to chdist
[15:26] <ScottK> Yes.
[15:26] <bdmurray> On a funny note I found some unity bugs filed about dash
[15:26] <ScottK>  libnet-dns-perl apparently doesn't support IPv6.
[15:26] <ScottK> There's a patch on http://lists.amavis.org/pipermail/amavis-users/2011-June/000462.html
[15:26] <slangasek> bdmurray: errr?
[15:27] <bdmurray> well isn't party of unity called dash? ;-)
[15:27] <bdmurray> or the dash
[15:27] <slangasek> oh, heh
[15:27] <ScottK> Neither upstream nor the Debian maintainer are very active, so I was wondering if someone with a bit of Perl foo might see if we should get that in.
[15:27] <ScottK> (related to foundations-o-ipv6-healthcheck)
[15:27] <ScottK> ..
[15:27] <cjwatson> that looks like libnet-server-perl rather than libnet-dns-perl?
[15:28] <ScottK> Yes, sorry.
[15:29] <slangasek> any takers for a bit of perl?
[15:29] <cjwatson> I can take it
[15:29] <cjwatson> https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=33289
[15:29] <cjwatson> apparently it's already been applied in Debian svn
[15:29] <cjwatson> https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=67305
[15:29] <slangasek> [ACTION] cjwatson to get libnet-server-perl fixed for ipv6
[15:29] <meetingology> ACTION: cjwatson to get libnet-server-perl fixed for ipv6
[15:29] <slangasek> cjwatson: thanks
[15:29] <ScottK> cjwatson: Thanks.
[15:29] <cjwatson> so that's just "upload from svn" which is easy
[15:30] <ScottK> That's not what Debian Git users tell me.
[15:30] <ScottK> ;)
[15:30]  * cjwatson used svn for long enough that he doesn't have that particular prejudice :)
[15:31]  * slangasek has used git for long enough that he doesn't have that prejudice either ;)
[15:31] <cjwatson> heh, that too
[15:31] <slangasek> anything else?
[15:32] <slangasek> #endmeeting
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[15:32] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Sep 14 15:32:05 2011 UTC.
[15:32] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-09-14-15.02.moin.txt
[15:32] <slangasek> thanks, all!
[15:32] <mvo> thanks
[15:32] <stgraber> thanks
[15:32] <jhunt> thanks
[15:32] <barry> thanks!
[15:33] <doko> thanks
[15:33] <ev> thanks
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[16:46] <gema> QA meeting in 15 mins!
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[17:00] <gema> Hi everyone, I will be chairing today's QA team meeting, I hope we are ready to get started
[17:00] <gema> #startmeeting QA Team meeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Sep 14 17:00:53 2011 UTC.  The chair is gema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[17:01] <gema> So, let's start with the previous actions
[17:01] <gema> [TOPIC] Previous Actions
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[17:01] <gema> nuclearbob: were there any actions from last meeting?
[17:01] <nuclearbob> nope
[17:01] <gema> good, next topic
[17:01] <gema> [TOPIC] Community Efforts/Testing
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[17:02] <gema> does anyone have an update on community efforts ?
[17:02]  * gema reminds you she is still not familiar with the usual players, so if anyone is meant to speak, please do so
[17:03] <gema> 3
[17:03] <gema> 2
[17:03] <gema> 1
[17:03] <gema> [TOPIC] Automated/Systems Testing
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[17:03] <gema> I have been working on putting together a set of test cases that will need to be automated at some point
[17:04] <gema> we are still working on the test analysis and will publish it for review soon
[17:04] <gema> that's all from me
[17:04] <gema> ..
[17:04] <gema> any other update?
[17:05] <gema> 3
[17:05] <gema> 2
[17:05] <gema> 1
[17:05] <gema> moving on, then
[17:05] <gema> [TOPIC] Engineering Team Bug Status
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[17:06] <gema> any updates on bug status, hggdh ? are you around?
[17:06] <bdmurray> \o
[17:06] <gema> bdmurray: go for it :)
[17:06] <bdmurray> There has been lots of activity around writing bug patterns recently with quite a few community contributions
[17:06] <bdmurray> Which is a huge help
[17:07] <bdmurray> Yesterday, I fixed the greasemonkey script that allows easier tagging of bug reports
[17:07] <bdmurray> This is currently in the bzr branch and I'll add it to the firefox extension shortly
[17:08] <bdmurray> Oh, I also wrote a bzr plugin that modifies bug reports that have had a bug pattern written for them when you are pushing the branch with the bug pattern
[17:08] <bdmurray> This saves quite a few steps
[17:08] <Ursinha> cool!
[17:09] <bdmurray> And I rewrote a Launchpad bug with patches tool to be run by my bug bot and behave differently if the patch is a debdiff
[17:09] <bdmurray> that's all folks
[17:10] <gema> thanks, bdmurray
[17:10] <gema> excellent week, you had :)
[17:10] <gema> any other update ? Ursinha ?
[17:10] <Ursinha> after bdmurray it's hard to look I've been working :)
[17:11] <Ursinha> I've been working on things that aren't noticiable for now, organizing the server packages and have list of bugs given their priorities to improve triage
[17:11] <Ursinha> nothing much reportable :)
[17:11] <Ursinha> ..
[17:12] <gema> good, thanks
[17:12] <gema> moving on to the next topic unless someone has anything else :)
[17:12] <gema> [TOPIC] Other Topics
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[17:13] <gema> anything else you'd like to let us know? any other business to be discussed? any suggestion?
[17:13] <gema> any volunteers to review a test analysis?
[17:13] <charlie-tca> What's involved in that?
[17:14] <gema> reading the document and sending comments (such as , I think you are missing this, or that, or I would do this differently)
[17:14] <charlie-tca> I am terrible at that kind of thing
[17:14] <gema> the document itself is for generating testing for Ubiquity, the installer
[17:14] <gema> ok, charlie-tca , not a problem :)
[17:15] <charlie-tca> If no one else speaks up, I can try, though
[17:15] <gema> go ahead :)
[17:15] <gema> ok, I will speak to you about it off the meeting , thanks!
[17:16] <charlie-tca> okay
[17:16] <hggdh> \o
[17:16] <gema> go ahead, hggdh
[17:17] <hggdh> just a reminder, Beta 2 is coming -- we would like as much help as possible in testing the ISOs
[17:17] <hggdh> ..
[17:17] <gema> thanks
[17:17] <gema> [TOPIC] Chair Selection
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[17:17] <gema> any volunteers to chair the meeting next week?
[17:18] <gema> ok, let's shuffle it then!
[17:18] <hggdh> yeah!
[17:18] <gema> Ursinha, it seems to be your turn
[17:18] <gema> are you happy with that?
[17:18] <hggdh> yes!
[17:18] <Ursinha> sure :)
[17:18] <charlie-tca> Yay!
[17:19] <gema> cool!
[17:19] <gema> [ACTION] Ursinha to chair next meeting
[17:19] <meetingology> ACTION: Ursinha to chair next meeting
[17:19] <Ursinha> \o/
[17:19] <darkcharl> (a late hurray!)
[17:19] <gema> #endmeeting
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[17:19] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Sep 14 17:19:37 2011 UTC.
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[17:19] <gema> ok, so now it is done
[17:19] <charlie-tca> gema: thank you for chairing
[17:20] <gema> not a problem! now I don't know how to get the logs on the wiki
[17:20] <Ursinha> thanks!
[17:20] <gema> I found it, no problem :D
[17:21] <hggdh> thank you gema
[17:22] <gema> hggdh: will the minutes appear automatically on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings ? in previous meetings?
[17:23] <hggdh> well, it _could_, be we have been copying it in the w.u.c space manually -- it is saved on the bot's home by default, outside Ubuntu
[17:23] <hggdh> and we wanted to be sure it would always be available within Ubuntu
[17:24] <gema> you speak a very confusing language for me x)
[17:24] <gema> w.u.c?
[17:26] <Ursinha> gema, wiki.ubuntu.com, I guess
[17:28] <gema> Ursinha: I like your thinking, it is too late for me in the day to be seeing those things x)
[17:28] <gema> thanks
[17:28] <Ursinha> no problem :)
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