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| zooko | Hello folks. | 03:16 |
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| zooko | Any progress on updating Tahoe-LAFS to v1.8.3? | 03:27 |
| * zooko checks the ticket | 03:27 | |
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| Rhonda | NCommander: It's the .sed.in file. | 05:54 |
| Rhonda | NCommander: Are you setting up your own site? | 06:32 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:58 |
| philipballew | good morning dholbach | 07:00 |
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| dholbach | hey philipballew | 07:00 |
| zooko | announced Tahoe-LAFS v1.8.3: http://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2011-September/006675.html | 07:02 |
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| kaushal__ | Hi | 11:24 |
| kaushal__ | where can i get sun-java6 version 24 deb package for 10.04 ? | 11:24 |
| kaushal__ | where can i get sun-java6-jdk version 24 .deb package for 10.04 ? | 11:28 |
| Laney | why is https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79858623/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.libdecodeqr_0.9.3-5ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz happening (on arm only)? | 12:08 |
| micahg | Laney: seems to be the same thing afflicting wallch, I wanted to try a local rebuild of opencv to see if it helped | 12:11 |
| Laney | i saw the wallch report | 12:11 |
| * micahg kicks that off now | 12:12 | |
| Laney | \o | 12:16 |
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| achiang | dholbach: thanks for sponsoring a patch of mine. do you have any insight on this buildd message? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79864885/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.ethstatus_0.4.3ubuntu1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz | 13:40 |
| dholbach | achiang, it looks like something intermittent and related to the buildds, not your fault | 13:41 |
| dholbach | lamont or infinity would probably know | 13:41 |
| achiang | dholbach: ok, thank you | 13:41 |
| Laney | lamont was just talkin gbaout it in -evel | 13:41 |
| Laney | (with correct typing) | 13:41 |
| Laney | summary: dont worry about it | 13:41 |
| lenios | not sure if anyone is interested, but debian eclipse 3.7~exp-5 is working correctly on latest ubuntu, if providing libasm3-java 3.3.1-1 and liblucene2-java 2.9.4+ds1-3 | 14:25 |
| lenios | which is a good thing, considering latest available ubuntu package is 3.5.2... | 14:25 |
| micahg | lenios: yes, the question is will it build | 14:28 |
| lenios | i managed to build 3.7~exp4 | 14:29 |
| lenios | but it needs latest libs | 14:29 |
| micahg | yeah, those libs are going to be a problem | 14:30 |
| micahg | asm3 has a lot of rdepends | 14:31 |
| lenios | yes | 14:31 |
| lenios | but it needs to be updated, as 3.2-4ubuntu1 is not enough | 14:32 |
| micahg | lenios: well, that's only if we update eclipse | 14:36 |
| micahg | at this point, we'd probably have to fork those libs for oneiric to get eclipse updated if that will work | 14:36 |
| lenios | eclipse will eventually need to be updated, as 3.5.2 is 2 years old | 14:41 |
| micahg | lenios: yes indeed, but we're a month away from release | 14:42 |
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| Laney | there's probably a reason it is in experimental | 16:25 |
| Laney | micahg: did opencv finish? | 16:26 |
| micahg | Laney: no, will probably be another 5-6 hours | 16:27 |
| Laney | :/ | 16:27 |
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| jtaylor | does beta freeze affect universe? | 18:31 |
| * jtaylor wondering if one should sync tahoe from debian incomming to avoid it being hung up in freeze | 18:32 | |
| Laney | only nominally | 18:33 |
| Laney | as in, launchpad doesn't let you freeze part of the archive | 18:33 |
| jtaylor | so it would be better to sync it now? | 18:33 |
| Laney | doesn't really matter | 18:34 |
| ahasenack | hi guys, do you have a suggestion about how to include a "make check" call in a python package being built using cdbs? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/689417/ | 18:34 |
| ahasenack | I tried DEB_MAKE_CHECK_TARGET, but that works only when using the "make" buildsystem, and I was looking for the least intrusive change | 18:34 |
| ahasenack | I'm not seeing any good dh_* that I can override, dh_build isn't called | 18:35 |
| jtaylor | before dh_install should be fine | 18:35 |
| ahasenack | yeah, but how? I see it calling "debian/rules build" | 18:35 |
| ahasenack | and then | 18:35 |
| ahasenack | dh_testroot, dh_clean and dh_installdirs | 18:36 |
| ahasenack | but these are not in the rules file, they are in the included makefiles somewhere | 18:36 |
| ahasenack | so, could I override dh_installdirs? | 18:36 |
| jtaylor | build/package:: should be the post-install action | 18:37 |
| jtaylor | see custom rules in the docs | 18:38 |
| ahasenack | cdbs docs? | 18:38 |
| ahasenack | ah, cool | 18:38 |
| ahasenack | I think I get it | 18:39 |
| ahasenack | http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/Packages/CDBSCustomRules found this, I hope it's not out of date, will try some things, thanks | 18:39 |
| ahasenack | jtaylor: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/689425/ thanks, that seems to work fine. Maybe use build/%, although in this case it's really just one binary | 18:43 |
| ahasenack | jtaylor: hmm, or did you mean to use binary-post-install? | 18:45 |
| * ahasenack tries that one | 18:45 | |
| jtaylor | I'd run the test before the install | 18:46 |
| jtaylor | else you may risk getting some *pcy created in the installation directories | 18:46 |
| jtaylor | pyc | 18:46 |
| ahasenack | hmm, post-install runs as root/fake-root | 18:46 |
| ahasenack | jtaylor: so build is fine | 18:47 |
| ahasenack | it's a post-build action | 18:49 |
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| jtaylor | oh man... | 20:44 |
| jtaylor | tahoe maintenance drives me nuts | 20:44 |
| jtaylor | completely untested | 20:44 |
| jtaylor | the release of debian of course fails 50% of its tests | 20:44 |
| jtaylor | as they forgot to patch an egg | 20:44 |
| jtaylor | argh the maintainers even "saw" the problem and worked around it (completely not understanding how python dependency resolution works) turning a build failure into a runtime failure | 20:51 |
| jtaylor | nice | 20:51 |
| ajmitch | jtaylor: that sounds ugly, to say the least | 20:57 |
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| ScottK | jtaylor: Those Ubuntu idiots really don't know what they are doing do they? | 21:22 |
| ScottK | Oh, wait.... | 21:22 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 21:22 |
| jtaylor | well the ubuntu package was awful too ... | 21:23 |
| jtaylor | at least the natty one (which is still broken) | 21:23 |
| ScottK | Well, plenty of shortcomings to go around. | 21:23 |
| ScottK | I hope the implicit irony tags were apparent. | 21:23 |
| jtaylor | unfortunatly I'm also to blame for this error :/ I filed the bug requesting the changed that caused the issue | 21:28 |
| ajmitch | jtaylor: we'll get out the tar & feathers for you then | 21:31 |
| davidsarah | jtaylor: can you explain the problem in more detail? | 21:52 |
| jtaylor | debian problem not related to tahoe | 21:52 |
| davidsarah | yes, but I try to keep track of the debian patches | 21:53 |
| jtaylor | I asked for the packaging to not depend on the twisted metapackage which pulls in lots of stuff tahoe does not need (lore, mail runner etc) | 21:53 |
| davidsarah | arrgh | 21:53 |
| jtaylor | twisted in debian is split up in many smaller packages | 21:53 |
| davidsarah | did they not see that I commented on that bug warning not to do precisely that? | 21:53 |
| jtaylor | so the _auto_dep.py must be patched to depend on what is needed | 21:54 |
| jtaylor | you did? even worse the maintainers screwed it up | 21:54 |
| * davidsarah finds the link | 21:55 | |
| ajmitch | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631163 | 21:56 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 631163 in tahoe-lafs "tahoe-lafs: reduce twisted dependencies" [Minor,Fixed] | 21:56 |
| jtaylor | hm there is no tac file in the source | 21:56 |
| davidsarah | yep, that's the one | 21:56 |
| davidsarah | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631163#40 | 21:56 |
| davidsarah | "Please hold off applying this change until we've investigated more thoroughly." | 21:57 |
| davidsarah | now I'm just irritated | 21:57 |
| jtaylor | ah its also autogenerated ... | 21:57 |
| jtaylor | yey | 21:57 |
| jtaylor | but that can be patched out too | 21:58 |
| davidsarah | patching _auto_deps.py is the wrong fix | 21:58 |
| davidsarah | the right fix is to undo 631163 | 21:58 |
| davidsarah | it wasn't necessary anyway | 21:58 |
| ajmitch | but that would mean dragging in all of twisted again | 21:58 |
| davidsarah | yes, and? | 21:58 |
| davidsarah | this is a security bugfix release | 21:59 |
| davidsarah | it shouldn't be making that change | 21:59 |
| davidsarah | that change is just a disk space optimization | 21:59 |
| davidsarah | please don't patch _auto_deps.py, that will just cause us maintenance hassles | 22:00 |
| jtaylor | there does not seem to be more of this in the code | 22:01 |
| jtaylor | maybe easy_install.py but that should pull twisted then anyway | 22:02 |
| davidsarah | sorry, I don't understand | 22:02 |
| davidsarah | note: changing the generation of the tac files will not work | 22:02 |
| davidsarah | because we have to be compatible with existing node directories | 22:03 |
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| jtaylor | how does changing a requires change compatibility? | 22:03 |
| davidsarah | see http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1159 | 22:04 |
| davidsarah | actually just http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/1159#comment:18 is most relevant | 22:04 |
| ajmitch | these .tac files are generated & end up on the nodes themselves? | 22:05 |
| davidsarah | yes | 22:05 |
| davidsarah | they are generated when a node is created | 22:05 |
| ajmitch | they're cached & not fetched each time, I take it? | 22:05 |
| davidsarah | which causes forward-compatibility problems, because changing the code that generates them doesn't change existing nodes | 22:06 |
| davidsarah | we probably wouldn't use tac files if we were doing this again | 22:06 |
| ajmitch | right, it seems a little brittle | 22:06 |
| davidsarah | they're stored in the node directory, and used by twistd (which 'tahoe start' delegates to) when starting a node | 22:06 |
| davidsarah | very brittle | 22:06 |
| davidsarah | we want to get rid of them, it's just a bit tricky to invoke twistd in the right way without them, which is why that hasn't been done already | 22:07 |
| davidsarah | I'd like to emphasize that a security release should not be changing the dependencies | 22:08 |
| jtaylor | you not, but debian can | 22:08 |
| jtaylor | its called unstable for a reason | 22:08 |
| ajmitch | that's something you should take up with the debian maintainers | 22:09 |
| davidsarah | (unless that were necessary for the fix, but it isn't) | 22:09 |
| davidsarah | er, that isn't my understanding of what "unstable" means in this context | 22:09 |
| jtaylor | but yes that change should not make it into oneiric which is unfortunate, more backporting ._. | 22:09 |
| davidsarah | I'm confused, what extra backporting is necessary here? | 22:10 |
| davidsarah | the 631163 change should not have been made, it's as simple as that | 22:11 |
| jtaylor | after your objection yes | 22:11 |
| davidsarah | an upstream maintainer (me) explicitly said that it should not be made because it would cause a regression | 22:11 |
| jtaylor | blame the debian maintainers for that | 22:11 |
| davidsarah | right, that's what I'm doing :-) | 22:11 |
| davidsarah | is this the wrong forum to do that? :-/ | 22:12 |
| davidsarah | I suppose the bug is the right forum | 22:12 |
| jtaylor | I think there is a debian-tahoe mailing list where you can flame them ;) | 22:12 |
| jtaylor | yes they should have seen that mail in the bug | 22:12 |
| davidsarah | well, I'm supposed to be working on something else | 22:12 |
| jtaylor | not only you | 22:12 |
| jtaylor | I was hopping to be done with tahoe for now, but then I also expected the debian maintainers to test their apckage before they upload | 22:13 |
| davidsarah | sigh, I suppose all I can do is post on the bug for the change to be backed out, then properly tested and re-uploaded | 22:14 |
| davidsarah | we have a *very thorough* test suite for a reason | 22:14 |
| davidsarah | sorry if it sounds like I'm getting at you, I know this is not your fault | 22:14 |
| jtaylor | comment on bug 641649 | 22:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 629246 in ntfs-config (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #641649 ntfs-config crashed with OSError in __init__(): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/hal/fdi/policy" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/629246 | 22:14 |
| jtaylor | in debian | 22:14 |
| jtaylor | its partly my fault | 22:15 |
| jtaylor | I wanted the change | 22:15 |
| davidsarah | right, but the reason for the change not being a good idea was quite subtle | 22:15 |
| davidsarah | in principle, reducing the twisted dependency would have been a useful thing to do | 22:15 |
| ajmitch | it would have been useful if the nodes didn't have a hardcoded pkg_requires now, but hindsight is a wonderful thing | 22:16 |
| jtaylor | yes hardcoded dependencies which can't be reomved is an awful thing | 22:16 |
| jtaylor | lets hope twisted does not at some point decide to remove the egg :) | 22:17 |
| jtaylor | or renaming it when switching to python3 and abandoning python2 support | 22:18 |
| ajmitch | I don't see python 2.x support being dropped by projects for awhile | 22:18 |
| ajmitch | tahoe-lafs might need to have some mechanism for updating or replacing the .tac files | 22:18 |
| dupondje | could somebody execute 'locale -a | grep -F .utf8' and give me its output? | 22:21 |
| broder | http://paste.ubuntu.com/689561/ | 22:22 |
| dupondje | broder: thx | 22:22 |
| dupondje | I have zh_CN.utf8 in the list, for some unknown reason :s | 22:22 |
| davidsarah | ajmitch: we're going to ignore the .tac files, except for looking at the name to detect the node type | 22:23 |
| davidsarah | but that's something for a future release, probably 1.10 | 22:23 |
| jtaylor | so I'm, off, thx davidsarah for pointing this issue out before it would have caused more even problems | 22:27 |
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| davidsarah | no problem, thanks for catching it quickly | 22:31 |
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