| paultag | Hey release-ers. I was working with someone in Debian, and he requested a FFe (LP: #849167) which closes RC bug LP: #820983. It's a bugfix only upload, but it requires dropping the ubuntu1 patch (which failed to fix what it was intended to fix). Can someone triage, please? | 02:53 |
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| ScottK | If it's bugfix, it doens't need release team review. | 03:17 |
| paultag | ScottK: Is there any chance you could fill me in on some of the process? I was just helping a friend, and I don't really know how to handle the paperwork | 03:18 |
| ScottK | Subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug and someone will review. | 03:18 |
| paultag | ScottK: cheers | 03:19 |
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| Laney | we ask for FFe for dh_python2 transitions, but what about others? (CDBS → dh in this case) | 09:34 |
| pitti | Laney: I guess it could be argued that they need an FFE, but personally I don't care much | 09:54 |
| pitti | it's a matter of debdiffing the binaries to check the result | 09:54 |
| maxb | Would someone be able to tell me what is unusual about ubuntu/pool/universe/libc/libcdio/libiso9660-7_0.81-4_amd64.deb ? It appears to be a 404 on archive.ubuntu.com, a 403 on gb.archive.ubuntu.com, but accessible on de.archive.ubuntu.com | 10:14 |
| Laney | pitti: thought as much, ta | 10:15 |
| cjwatson | maxb: the only unusual thing I can see is that it's a symlink into main | 10:15 |
| maxb | Hmm... so that would explain the 403 if gb.a.u.c is configured with a http server that won't follow symlinks | 10:16 |
| maxb | It's a 404 on archive.ubuntu.com even changing universe to main | 10:17 |
| jpds | Last sync failed. | 10:18 |
| jpds | maxb: OK now? | 10:24 |
| maxb | Yes, that works - thanks | 10:26 |
| jussi | Anyone know when skaet usully arises from her slumbers? | 11:12 |
| nigelb | jussi: Somewhere around when Texas wakes up :) | 11:16 |
| ScottK | Laney: I think build system changes are feature changes that should be reviewed, but OTOH if someone forgets to ask, I'm not going to go hunt them down unless they break something. | 11:25 |
| davmor2 | jussi: I'm gonna say approximate 14:00-ish gmt | 11:26 |
| jussi | davmor2: excellent, thank you | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | jussi: most of the states are online between 14:00-16:00 so somewhere around then at any rate :) | 11:27 |
| jussi | ok | 11:27 |
| ScottK | I guess I should go back to bed then. | 11:27 |
| slangasek | I definitely should | 11:28 |
| davmor2 | ScottK: you slangasek and persia ar eall androids so use UTC I'm sure of it :D | 11:28 |
| davmor2 | see ^ | 11:28 |
| ScottK | Sleep is for the weak. | 11:29 |
| davmor2 | sleep is something you do when you die right? | 11:29 |
| ScottK | There's even a song about that. | 11:29 |
| davmor2 | ScottK: there are several with the line in :) | 11:30 |
| davmor2 | so it must be true the song said so | 11:30 |
| ScottK | No doubt, but it's the title of a Frank Zappa song. | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | \o/ | 11:32 |
| davmor2 | ScottK: Indeed, and also sung by Meatloaf, bon jovi, guns'n'roses, some bond theme has it I'm sure oh and others | 11:34 |
| nigelb | I'm glad I'm not the only person awake all night. | 11:37 |
| davmor2 | nigelb: you're a rank amateur at it ;) | 11:40 |
| nigelb | I'm not sure if I wwant to be pro :P | 11:41 |
| lamont | slangasek: cjwatson skaet (anyone)... any armel livecd images planned in the next hour or 2? I need to do some work on annonaceae | 12:20 |
| slangasek | speaking only for myself and the crontab, no | 12:21 |
| lamont | slangasek: ta | 12:21 |
| cjwatson | me neither | 12:21 |
| lamont | buildd's ssh auth keys file is currently disabled, fwiw | 12:22 |
| cjwatson | would like the x86 ones to keep working though | 12:22 |
| lamont | purely an armel activity | 12:22 |
| lamont | total of 5 arm boxes are getting better disks, and I need to migrate things, starting with 4 of the lp-buildds | 12:22 |
| lamont | *aceae.buildd | 12:22 |
| lamont | (for many, but not all, values of "*") | 12:23 |
| ogra_ | lamont, well, i was just fiddling with mx5 images but i will wait for infinity anyway | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | and worst case i can switch to sycamore for the moment | 12:31 |
| lamont | ogra_: once the rsync finishes, it's a couple commands and a reboot | 12:34 |
| ogra_ | yeah, no hurry, i'm stuck anyway | 12:34 |
| ogra_ | (somehow mx5 is convinced it builds a DVD and not a preinstalled image and i cant find out why) | 12:35 |
| lamont | lucky you | 12:41 |
| ogra_ | heh, yeah | 12:42 |
| lamont | in a different question, wtf does the lucid arm redboot world think that fsck can be omitted from the initramfs? | 12:42 |
| ogra_ | muight be cjwatson's fault though i think there was something about the usb key stuff he fixed last night ... and that i end up with 1.6G ext3 files from live-build is suspicious | 12:42 |
| ogra_ | lamont, how do you mean ? | 12:43 |
| lamont | gonna need some bigger CDs | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | redboot doesnt do anything with the initrd but loading it | 12:43 |
| lamont | ogra_: buildd reboots with errors on /dev/sda1, fails to boot, because fsck.ext2 is missing | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | everything else is kernel | 12:43 |
| lamont | seems to be localized to the bbg3 machines | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | uh, oh | 12:43 |
| lamont | ergo "armel redboot world" | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 12:44 |
| lamont | but yeah, absolutely nothing to do with redboot itself | 12:44 |
| ogra_ | i thought you mean redboot does anything with the initrd it shouldnt | 12:44 |
| lamont | it unpacks it. that's not nothing. :p | 12:44 |
| ogra_ | shouldnt mountall pull that into the initrd ? | 12:44 |
| ogra_ | fsck i mean | 12:44 |
| lamont | one would expect something to. I'll check into lucid's mountall | 12:45 |
| lamont | zcat < /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-24-omap | cpio -t | grep fsck | 12:46 |
| lamont | 24033 blocks | 12:46 |
| lamont | iz fact on bbg3 boards and beaglexm | 12:46 |
| ogra_ | wow | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: mountall is not run from the initrd | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | i thought mountall is what ships the fsck parts into initrd | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | no, nothing does | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | oh | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | there is a wishlist somewhere for making the initramfs generally more useful for recovery which would include fsck | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | but it's a feature | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | mountall runs from the real system not the initramfs | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | bug 512349 | 12:48 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 512349 in baltix (and 2 other projects) "include filesystem repair facilities in initramfs (affects: 3) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512349 | 12:48 |
| ogra_ | ah, k | 12:48 |
| lamont | cjwatson: it's a personally annoying feature when you have to have someone physically in the data center to reboot the machine | 12:48 |
| ogra_ | lamont, what are the exact fs errors you see ? | 12:48 |
| lamont | /sbin/fsck.ext2 /dev/sda1 | 12:48 |
| lamont | e2fsck 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010) | 12:48 |
| lamont | ext2fs_check_if_mount: Can't check if filesystem is mounted due to missing mtab file while determining whether /dev/sda1 is mounted. | 12:48 |
| lamont | /dev/sda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced. | 12:48 |
| lamont | and no actual errors | 12:48 |
| lamont | during the run | 12:49 |
| lamont | anyway, buttercup and kaylaberry are back in the game now that I've fscked them | 12:49 |
| ogra_ | hmm, sad, i was hoping for RTC relations | 12:50 |
| cjwatson | normally the initramfs can still do a read-only mount and the lack of fsck should not block it | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | perhaps there's a 'rw' argument telling it not to do that? | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | hmm, could be that there is no ro on the cmdline | 12:52 |
| ogra_ | but that should still default to ro, no ? | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | yes | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | though I haven't checked lucid, only oneiric | 12:52 |
| lamont | having a machine that refuses to boot until someone manually gets fsck into the initramfs and runs it strikes me as something closer to a bug than a feature | 12:53 |
| ogra_ | we surely never set rw explicitly | 12:53 |
| ogra_ | lamont, whats your cmdline ? | 12:53 |
| lamont | console=ttymxc0,115200n root=UUID=ff4d3b1f-c1f2-4a63-859c-71395c87e61c | 12:54 |
| ogra_ | looks fine | 12:55 |
| ogra_ | not that then | 12:55 |
| cjwatson | lamont: point is that the absence of fsck from the initramfs should not cause that bug | 12:55 |
| lamont | maybe I'll see if I can reproduce it on the home-panda | 12:55 |
| cjwatson | fsck is not meant to be required in the initramfs for booting | 12:55 |
| cjwatson | oh, *finally*, a working zh_CN livefs build | 13:00 |
| cjwatson | only about ten attempts later | 13:00 |
| cjwatson | now I can see what the output looks line | 13:00 |
| cjwatson | *like | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | GRRR ... why is *every* armel package on the ftbfs list i look at a GL issue | 13:03 |
| ScottK | ogra_: I see a lot of /usr/include/GL/glext.h:5072:19: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef ptrdiff_t GLintptr' - Is that what you're hitting? | 13:10 |
| cjwatson | that's standard GL vs. GLES, AIUI | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | ScottK, yes, i saw that in several packages | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | right | 13:10 |
| ScottK | /usr/include/GL/glew.h has the same typedef. | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | but often needs more than just changes of the build dep sadly | 13:11 |
| ScottK | I have no frickng clue why there's anything armel specific in there. | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | GLES vs GL | 13:11 |
| ScottK | Hmmm. Is mesa-common-dev GLES on armel? | 13:12 |
| ogra_ | not armel specific ... GPU specific :) | 13:12 |
| ScottK | I see. | 13:13 |
| ogra_ | there is a specific gles lib iirc | 13:13 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 13:13 |
| ScottK | In the case I'm looking at it's not installed. | 13:13 |
| ScottK | Oh, wait. It is. | 13:13 |
| ogra_ | well, usually you need to change the build-dep, change configure to use GLES if possible and then clean up the fallout for missing or different declarations | 13:14 |
| cjwatson | it'd be helpful if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/FTBFS discussed this for more than the Qt case | 13:16 |
| mvo | pitti: I have a merge proposal for a update-manager httplib2 change, but it would add python-httplib2 to update-manager-cores and via that to ubuntu-standard - is that something acceptable at this point? the caching is greatly improved with that branch but its not OMG critical | 13:30 |
| pitti | mvo: that sounds like it would restructure some code from e. g. urllib to python-httplib2? | 13:34 |
| pitti | mvo: as for the dependency, that's mainly a question for the server guys (Daviey) | 13:34 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, the code itself is fine, I'm mostly concerned about the new dependency at this point, I will eventually merge it for P, I'm pretty certain about that | 13:36 |
| micahg | pitti: you should've rejected my dh_python2 conversions due to the extraneous X-Python-Version field since there was no minimum specified before :) | 13:40 |
| * micahg just got yelled at in #debian-python... | 13:41 | |
| * micahg guesses that goes beyond the call of duty for the release team review though | 13:43 | |
| ScottK | micahg: They are not required, but they don't actually hurt beyond making the source very slightly larger. | 13:43 |
| micahg | ScottK: that was the impression I had, but #debian-python said otherwise | 13:45 |
| lamont | cjwatson: for tracking, where should I file the (lucid/maverick at least) bug about needing ext2 for boot? (note that the machines in question were not installed via the normal install processes, so it's likely pebcak) | 13:45 |
| lamont | s/ext2/fsck/ | 13:45 |
| ScottK | micahg: I saw. I'm not quite as pedantic as some other people. | 13:45 |
| cjwatson | lamont: not sure, I guess initramfs-tools for starters | 13:59 |
| lamont | ok | 14:02 |
| * ogra_ wonders if febootstrap is what he suspects | 14:11 | |
| charlie-tca | Can we try a respin of Xubuntu Alternate images. There are no errors in the log, but the install fails and there was an email notiification for a fail | 14:26 |
| cjwatson | what did the notification say? | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | ah, well, if nothing else report.html is non-empty | 14:27 |
| pitti | micahg: sorry, missed that | 14:28 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu/daily: Uninstallable packages: | 14:28 |
| cjwatson | has abiword installability been fixed then? | 14:28 |
| charlie-tca | abiword 2.8.6-0.3ubuntu2 produces uninstallable binaries: | 14:28 |
| charlie-tca | * abiword (amd64 i386) | 14:28 |
| charlie-tca | * abiword-plugin-grammar (amd64 i386) | 14:28 |
| charlie-tca | * abiword-plugin-mathview (amd64 i386) | 14:28 |
| charlie-tca | * libabiword-2.8 (amd64 i386) | 14:28 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu-meta 2.137 produces uninstallable binaries: | 14:28 |
| cjwatson | (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/report.html) | 14:28 |
| charlie-tca | * xubuntu-desktop (amd64 i386) | 14:28 |
| * cjwatson checks in chdist to see if that's actually been fixed | 14:29 | |
| charlie-tca | yes, that is the notification | 14:29 |
| micahg | pitti: well, according to ScottK it's YMMV, so not your fault | 14:29 |
| charlie-tca | Why doesn't http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/oneiric/daily-20110914.log show anything? | 14:29 |
| micahg | cjwatson: it installed fine on my ubuntu-desktop oneiric setup | 14:29 |
| cjwatson | because it's not a CD *build* failure | 14:29 |
| micahg | *abiword | 14:29 |
| cjwatson | the images built successfully, they just contain uninstallable pieces | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | it's often useful to have the output anyway | 14:30 |
| charlie-tca | So, file a bug with the logs? | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | no | 14:31 |
| cjwatson | micahg: agreed, it seems fine in chdist | 14:31 |
| cjwatson | I'll respin now | 14:31 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 14:31 |
| micahg | cjwatson: thansk | 14:31 |
| micahg | *thanks | 14:31 |
| lamont | slangasek: cjwatson skaet (anyone)... annonaceae is back over to all y'all, fwiw | 14:52 |
| slangasek | thanks :) | 14:55 |
| lamont | mucking about with archive/i386 - manualized | 15:16 |
| lamont | should be back in a couple min | 15:16 |
| lamont | and we're back | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | I need yet another respin. Something is wrong with the mirrors or server because it refuses to allow abiword to work. | 16:41 |
| charlie-tca | Please respin Xubuntu Alternates again | 16:41 |
| Laney | phwoar, nbs looks good | 16:50 |
| Laney | nice | 16:50 |
| cjwatson | charlie-tca: it's not clear that respinning will help, then | 16:52 |
| cjwatson | I don't want to respin if nobody understands the problem | 16:52 |
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| charlie-tca | cjwatson: okay | 16:53 |
| charlie-tca | bug 850172 for Xubuntu failing to install | 17:12 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 850172 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu Oneiric Alternate images fail to find abiword dependencies when building images (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850172 | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | failure on two different hardware systems | 17:32 |
| cjwatson | hm, no local copy of xubuntu-oneiric-alternate-i386.iso | 18:19 |
| cjwatson | UNLEASH THE JIGDO | 18:19 |
| hyperair | hi. is it feasible to sync a libgpod 0.8.2 from debian at this point? | 18:22 |
| cyphermox | hi, could someone please ack https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/849994 ? | 19:18 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 849994 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "FFE: add NetworkManager DUID support (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | 19:18 |
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| * cjwatson goes to see if he can decipher the Xubuntu failure before falling asleep | 23:33 | |
| charlie-tca | thank you very much, but sleep might be more important | 23:35 |
| cjwatson | I have fairly frequent insomnia, it may be important but it's not always an option :-/ | 23:36 |
| cjwatson | might as well do something useful with it | 23:36 |
| charlie-tca | Then again I will say "Thank you very much". Your help is very much appreciated. | 23:39 |
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