| holstein | musegarden: o/ | 12:54 |
|---|---|---|
| musegarden | hello | 12:54 |
| holstein | musegarden: you mind if i announce where you are located? | 12:54 |
| holstein | not sure if anyone is near you or not... | 12:54 |
| musegarden | oh no, go ahead :) | 12:58 |
| musegarden | I have to leave soon though. Errands to run. | 12:58 |
| holstein | yeah, me too... but you know where to find me :) | 12:59 |
| holstein | musegarden is up in boone | 13:00 |
| musegarden | all right, yeah, I'll try to get on later today :) | 13:00 |
| holstein | we have a few regulars... akgraner internalkernel | 13:00 |
| holstein | BugeyeD_ Nivex | 13:00 |
| holstein | the other lurkers participate too | 13:01 |
| musegarden | What do you usually talk about? | 13:01 |
| holstein | how busy we are ;) | 13:02 |
| holstein | nah... whatever really | 13:03 |
| holstein | its been slow in here though | 13:03 |
| holstein | we should/could be talking about meetups | 13:03 |
| holstein | like install fests, or whatever | 13:03 |
| musegarden | install fests are fun :P | 13:03 |
| holstein | for example, meeting up with you near ASU (with permission) | 13:04 |
| holstein | having some boxes sitting around folkds can check out | 13:05 |
| holstein | handing out CD's | 13:05 |
| musegarden | That would be fun to do. | 13:05 |
| holstein | whatever buntu related event really | 13:05 |
| holstein | musegarden: yeah, and thats what we need to be doing | 13:05 |
| musegarden | See I've been trying to get stuff of that nature together but everyone is either too scared of linux or refuses to leave their room :P | 13:06 |
| akgraner | Hi all! | 13:06 |
| holstein | safety in #'s :) | 13:06 |
| holstein | musegarden: are you on the mailing list? | 13:07 |
| musegarden | for what? | 13:07 |
| holstein | its actually quite active | 13:07 |
| holstein | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-nc | 13:08 |
| musegarden | oh no, I'm not on that. I should be | 13:08 |
| akgraner | holstein, for release party we'll have banners and I'll have bootable usb sticks for all the supported derivates | 13:08 |
| akgraner | we can also create CD's on the fly there if you want | 13:08 |
| musegarden | Done | 13:08 |
| musegarden | I have been having such a time making a bootable usb lately >_> | 13:09 |
| holstein | akgraner: :) | 13:09 |
| holstein | musegarden: i use unetbooting | 13:10 |
| holstein | musegarden: i use unetbootin* | 13:10 |
| holstein | and i just go ahead and format the USB stick each time | 13:10 |
| musegarden | I have been as well, I even tried straight dd'ing it and I still can't get it to boot. | 13:10 |
| holstein | only the 11.10 USB are supposed to be hybrid | 13:10 |
| holstein | i havent tried DD'ing, but i saw others having issues with it as well | 13:11 |
| musegarden | I'll figure it out eventually I guess. I gotta go run some errands for now, so talk to you guys later. :) | 13:11 |
| holstein | musegarden: \o | 13:11 |
| holstein | cool... new folkz :) | 13:12 |
| akgraner | I use startup disk creator | 13:12 |
| akgraner | it's on Ubuntu by default | 13:13 |
| akgraner | works beautifully | 13:13 |
| holstein | that didnt work for me so many times in the past, i stopped trying | 13:13 |
| akgraner | I just used it last night | 13:13 |
| holstein | i think that was 9.10? | 13:13 |
| holstein | im sure its fine by now | 13:14 |
| holstein | dd is the ddeal though :) | 13:14 |
| akgraner | holstein, I am sure it is but that's all commandline and well you know me | 13:31 |
| holstein | akgraner: gdiskdump :) | 13:39 |
| holstein | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gdiskdump-gui-for-diskdump-dd.html#more-12122 | 13:39 |
| akgraner | oh cool | 13:40 |
| holstein | i havent checked it out though | 13:40 |
| * holstein still on lucid | 13:40 | |
| akgraner | you sticking w/lucid til 12.04 | 13:41 |
| holstein | most places | 13:41 |
| holstein | i have a slightly borked 11.10 xubuntu install | 13:41 |
| holstein | for testing ubuntustudio stuff | 13:42 |
| akgraner | gotcha | 13:42 |
| holstein | i'll probably start running 12.04 ASAP on something... | 13:42 |
| holstein | but, i might run 11.10 on the netbook | 13:42 |
| holstein | im not touching my audio machine for a while though | 13:43 |
| BugeyeD_ | no wonder my ears are burning. | 13:46 |
| BugeyeD_ | akgraner: you need to become one with the shell | 13:48 |
| BugeyeD_ | i've been doing that since amiga cli | 13:49 |
| BugeyeD_ | trs-80 and c=64 doesn't count, because there was no graphical environment (save for geos) available anyway | 13:49 |
| holstein | dd if=akgraner of=akgraner+cli :) | 13:49 |
| BugeyeD_ | load "cli",8,1 | 13:50 |
| BugeyeD_ | i can't believe i remember that ... sheesh, how friggin' old AM i, anyway? | 13:50 |
| BugeyeD_ | sys 64738 <-- hard reboot for a commodore-64 | 13:51 |
| BugeyeD_ | i'm full of information that's useful to precisely nobody | 13:51 |
| Tracy_P | It is interesting trivia though | 13:52 |
| Tracy_P | I never had a C=64 | 13:52 |
| holstein | BugeyeD_: hehe | 13:52 |
| BugeyeD_ | i ran a bbs (bulletin board system for all you young'uns) on a c=64 for years before anyone had ever heard of the internet. | 13:52 |
| BugeyeD_ | i spent way too much time on the c=64 back then. | 13:53 |
| BugeyeD_ | probably 50/50 between that and my guitar. should have stuck with the guitar. | 13:53 |
| BugeyeD_ | probably be making less money today, but probably have a lot more fun | 13:53 |
| BugeyeD_ | with the guitar, that is. i suppose holstein might be able to clue me in there. | 13:54 |
| Tracy_P | I had 300 and 1200 baud modems in the past | 13:54 |
| BugeyeD_ | me too | 13:54 |
| holstein | yeah.. depends | 13:54 |
| Tracy_P | Did you ever connect to a MBBS? | 13:54 |
| holstein | i teach 2 computer classes right now... i make in 2 weeks about what i make playing 2 shows ;) | 13:55 |
| BugeyeD_ | the bbs started at 300 baud, then i splurged and bought a (gigantic) 1200 baud modem. while the modem could communicate at 1200 baud, the computer couldn't keep up. so you'd see stuff purting out at intervals instead of a steady stream. | 13:55 |
| holstein | you definitely *dont* get into music for the $$ | 13:55 |
| Tracy_P | I remember those days | 13:55 |
| holstein | theres an easy way to make a million dollars in the music buisness though... start out with 2 million... | 13:55 |
| BugeyeD_ | holstein: i'll be those two shows give a whole lot more satisfaction than the 2 weeks of work, without even talking of money. | 13:56 |
| BugeyeD_ | haha | 13:56 |
| holstein | well, im enjoying teaching the smaller class | 13:56 |
| holstein | 5 11th graders | 13:56 |
| BugeyeD_ | i'm sure i'd blow most of mine on prs guitars and old tube amps and such | 13:57 |
| holstein | its the 7th and 8th graders... :/ | 13:57 |
| holstein | they are still kids | 13:57 |
| BugeyeD_ | can you put yourself on their level? those are the teachers that the kids like, and the ones they learn from | 13:57 |
| holstein | and, most upper level computer stuff requires some patients and waiting | 13:57 |
| holstein | the 11th graders are capable of that | 13:58 |
| BugeyeD_ | Tracy_P: mbbs? | 13:58 |
| Tracy_P | multi-bbs.. | 13:58 |
| holstein | theres also 11 of the younger ones | 13:58 |
| holstein | thats more challening | 13:58 |
| Tracy_P | oh it was a product that ran on 286 and 386 computers late 80's early 90's | 13:58 |
| Tracy_P | 64 modems, so up to 64 people connected at once | 13:59 |
| internalkernel | omg... I had a friend who used to run a bbs off his c64, that was a long time ago... | 13:59 |
| internalkernel | Im feeling my age at the moment... | 13:59 |
| BugeyeD_ | Tracy_P: i connected to plenty, but not sure about that. for intel computers, i remember wildcat and a few others. but i was mainly commodore/amiga so i remember mostly color64bbs (greg pfountz - i even remember the author's name, how sad) and fidonet (distributed messages, like usenet). | 13:59 |
| BugeyeD_ | internalkernel: i don't wanna hear about it | 14:00 |
| internalkernel | lol... the internet before it Al Gore invented it... | 14:00 |
| BugeyeD_ | internalkernel: i'm guessing you're younger than i am, though we're probably close | 14:00 |
| BugeyeD_ | ... series of tubes ... | 14:00 |
| internalkernel | might be... I do have 3 kids... oldest of which is 13, so we're probably real close... | 14:00 |
| holstein | that black box from 'the IT crowd' ;) | 14:01 |
| BugeyeD_ | i really need to get back to work. :/ | 14:01 |
| internalkernel | I just finished my amish breakfast sandwich... | 14:01 |
| internalkernel | about to begin working on my beignets... | 14:01 |
| internalkernel | I love philly... | 14:01 |
| holstein | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTBsm0LzSP0 | 14:02 |
| BugeyeD_ | one of these days i need to get out west where you folks are. maybe i can make this installfest i just heard about. and try out one of amber's usb sticks. | 14:02 |
| BugeyeD_ | my laptop doesn't boot usb; i have to boot from cd to execute a wedge that can then boot from usb. | 14:03 |
| BugeyeD_ | and i've had mixed results with booting usb sticks on newer hardware (mostly desktops). may have to do with the 'hybrid' comment i heard a few minutes ago, i dunno. | 14:03 |
| BugeyeD_ | so is musegarden a musician? possibly a cross between muse and soundgarden? two bands which i'd never ordinarily mention in the same sentence ... | 14:06 |
| holstein | hmmm... i didnt ask | 14:06 |
| holstein | someone introduced us in #ubuntu-beginners | 14:06 |
| BugeyeD_ | cool. | 14:12 |
| akgraner | holstein, hmmm I do like byobu but don't really do much on the server side or in term windows right now | 14:16 |
| akgraner | holstein, did I tell you - I have been asked to design a 6 week course using Ubuntu for an intro to computers class... | 14:17 |
| akgraner | for 8th graders at a private school here...I thought of you... | 14:18 |
| holstein | akgraner: nice | 14:22 |
| holstein | i put ubuntu on the bosses computer at this school, and a few of the other teachers | 14:22 |
| holstein | i didnt say much about it yet | 14:22 |
| akgraner | :-) | 14:23 |
| holstein | im going to wait a while, see if they ask | 14:23 |
| akgraner | see if they notice | 14:23 |
| holstein | i'll tell them i spend $10 on the machine ;) | 14:23 |
| holstein | spent* | 14:23 |
| holstein | they notice when they want MS office and/or netfilx :/ | 14:28 |
| akgraner | :-) | 14:29 |
| Tracy_P | The MBBS allowed MUD's where you could interact with others in the scripted environment. The one I remember was named Kyrandia. Dump gems down a hole, marry someone, to get to the highest level. Also a public chat, such as IRC gives us and private chat that you can have one on one conversations. | 16:19 |
| Tracy_P | Those were the days when a dealer purchased a 1 GB harddrive for 1300 US | 16:21 |
| Tracy_P | 5.25 full height | 16:21 |
| BugeyeD_ | i had (2) 5.25" floppy drives and (3) 3.5" drives for storage. couldn't afford a hard disk. | 16:34 |
| Tracy_P | That was probably closer to mid 80's then | 16:35 |
| BugeyeD_ | and i did have games which saved state and users interacted with each other. the most popular was the murder motel (or something similar) where you are given a target, but you are also named as someone else's target. you got N moves per session to run around in the hotel and find your target without first being found. | 16:35 |
| BugeyeD_ | yep, mid-80's | 16:36 |
| Tracy_P | I would have laughed my way through that game each time I got into it. | 16:36 |
| Tracy_P | My dad didn't let me have a modem in the mid-80's. I had to buy my own. Didn't have a job until I got out of high school. So it took until 88 before I had a modem. | 16:37 |
| Tracy_P | TI99-4A.. not sure of the - placement anymore. | 16:38 |
| Tracy_P | Had a modem that coupled with the headset for a few weeks, then bought one that took over the line. | 16:39 |
| Tracy_P | call waiting was always a challenge | 16:39 |
| Tracy_P | Now I'm working on a software product that the executable is 21 megs and delivered over the internet. how life has changed | 16:40 |
| BugeyeD_ | heh, no kidding | 16:40 |
| BugeyeD_ | back then, 21 megs would have transferred in what, 21 years? | 16:41 |
| Tracy_P | lol | 16:41 |
| Tracy_P | at 300 yup | 16:41 |
| BugeyeD_ | and it was *amazing* at what could be done in the 64k of a commodore. and half of that 64k was ROM. | 16:42 |
| musegarden | Anyone there? | 22:54 |
| akgraner | hey | 23:38 |
| musegarden | hello | 23:39 |
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