[00:03] <wrst> good pace_t_zulu baby baths
[00:06] <wrst> how are you doing pace_t_zulu?
[00:09] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: sounds like fun
[00:09] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i'm good
[00:09] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you know of a way to files in one directory structure to an identical directory structure rooted at a different path?
[00:10] <pace_t_zulu> like if there are 'usr','bin','local' folders in each structure
[00:10] <pace_t_zulu> and the 'local' folder has 'usr' 'bin' folders
[00:11] <pace_t_zulu> and say there are files dispersed through those folders at first path .... you want to copy them into the same structure (but containing different files) at a different path
[00:12] <pace_t_zulu> would you do that with a '-n' switch?
[00:13] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: you are over my noggin on that one... oh cyberanger, Unit193 ^^^^
[00:13] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: I must admit I'm much more drag and drop when it comes to that stuff I'm limited in knowledge of much more than cp -r
[00:14] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i just realized i don't know how to do that off the top of my head
[00:15] <wrst> ha ha pace_t_zulu I sure don't
[00:15] <wrst> wish i did that's something I'm trying to get more skillful at because its very hand to know how to do things such as that
[00:15] <wrst> especially dealing with many files/directories
[00:19] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: command follows
[00:19] <pace_t_zulu> cp -rn path1/* path2/
[00:19] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: really that's it? :)
[00:19] <wrst> that's cool
[00:21] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: nevermind
[00:21] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: the -n switch is no help
[00:21] <pace_t_zulu> cp -r path1/* path2/
[00:28] <wrst> ohh :\
[00:33] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i'm a dumbass
[00:33] <pace_t_zulu> is the moral of ^ that story
[00:35] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: well i'm joining the club also I had no clue at all
[00:53]  * cyberanger sees a highlight, starts to read
[00:53]  * Unit193 wonders why he's on the smart list
[00:54] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: I think the moral of that story is technology has no morals (holding back additional comments here)
[00:56] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: technology may have no morals ... but its users still can
[00:56]  * cyberanger lets go of his additional comment
[00:57] <cyberanger> was gonna say, just like some if technologies users
[00:58] <cyberanger> I held it back, considering it wasn't targeted at anyone here, didn't want the misperception
[01:01] <pace_t_zulu> fair
[01:02] <pace_t_zulu> enough philosophy for me
[01:50] <linuxman410> anyone here
[01:52] <wrst> not a soul linuxman410 ;) how are you doing?
[01:53] <linuxman410> wrst have you ever tried broadcom b43 drivers on any os
[01:56] <wrst> yep on several of them linuxman410 :)
[01:57] <wrst> i am enjoying my laptop with aetheros card and none of that mess :)
[02:02] <linuxman410> wrst what os for broadcom b43 have you tried
[02:02] <Unit193> Howdy
[02:03] <linuxman410> wrst i think i am banned from debian cause everytime i try to ask question it says i cannot send to channel
[02:03] <linuxman410> Unit193 how r u
[02:04] <Unit193> Would be a quiet, not ban
[02:04] <Unit193> Alive
[02:06] <linuxman410> i am using puppylinux now cause it works with broadcom out of the box
[02:07] <average_guy> good evening gentlemen
[02:08] <wrst> linuxman410: arch, ubuntu, fedora, mandriva, opensuse
[02:08] <wrst> howdy average_guy
[02:08] <average_guy> I have a problem I need some help with tonight..
[02:09] <cyberanger> linuxman410: what Unit193 is getting at is debian might not have banned you, as much as they moderate their channels, to prevent it getting out of hand
[02:09] <wrst> average_guy: shoot
[02:10] <average_guy> I have a tower with 2 HDD's  sda=WinXP sdb=linux. Both were installed seperately and then but into one tower.  How do I get grub onto sda?
[02:11] <average_guy> I'm logged on from a liveCD now
[02:11] <average_guy> sudo grub-install /dev/sda=   /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[02:13] <wrst> have you tried the guide on taht average_guy?
[02:14] <average_guy> the guide?  "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" is the best I've found searching online, but it dosen't work..
[02:14] <linuxman410> cyberanger why do they stop u from asking questions like that
[02:15] <wrst> hmm average_guy well I thought there was an easy to find guide... and ubuntu's grub 2 makes me scream :)
[02:15]  * wrst looks for a easy guide
[02:16] <average_guy> I still lookin 2..
[02:16] <cyberanger> linuxman410: if it's a moderated mode (one guess) it'd be to focus on somebody who's already asked a question, or perhaps you weren't in a support channel (Debian isn't offically on freenode, it's on OFTC)
[02:18] <wrst> average_guy: can you boot into either?
[02:18] <linuxman410> cyberanger you ever deal with broadcom b43 wireless and with what os
[02:18] <average_guy> only sda but it's winXP.
[02:19] <average_guy> if it were linux, there wouldn't be a prob
[02:19] <wrst> with two hard drives my thought is average_guy have your bios to boot the ubuntu hard drive first, and from within ubuntu run sudo update-grub
[02:19] <cyberanger> hrm, right as I was gonna reply, usual linuxman410
[02:19] <wrst> average_guy: I think you should be able to set the ubuntu drive first in the boot order and go about business
[02:19] <cyberanger> he's paitent, his connection not as much
[02:19] <wrst> cyberanger: i was going to try to help also...
[02:20] <wrst> i've had a lot of experience with broadcom
[02:20] <average_guy> nope, bios does not allow for that wrst.  I'm trying to do it from LiveCD right now..
[02:21] <wrst> really... darn average_guy
[02:21] <linuxman410> cyberanger u here
[02:22] <linuxman410> wrst i went to server oftc and it says i am banned from debian
[02:22] <cyberanger> linuxman410: not had to use broadcom myself, but I think when I last used it, I used crunchbang
[02:23] <cyberanger> linuxman410: wonder why, did it give you a reason?
[02:23] <cyberanger> btw, that was crunchbang 9.10, but no reason the new ones don't have the non-free drivers added
[02:23] <linuxman410> cyberanger no reason did it give
[02:24] <wrst> average_guy: have you tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[02:24] <cyberanger> linuxman410: (and that could explain the reason, debian doesn't like some questions, one type is anything not from the free main repo is ususally frowned upon)
[02:25] <wrst> linuxman410: they make doing that stuff unecessarily hard in debian IMO
[02:26] <linuxman410> cyberanger there must be a bunch of jerks who run that channel
[02:27] <wrst> they are very ideological
[02:27] <linuxman410> wrst that is stupid ban someone for asking questions
[02:27] <cyberanger> linuxman410: well, eh, considering your asking about something they don't support, that feeling could be mutual
[02:27] <wrst> yeah linuxman410 debian is a whole different bear than ubuntu
[02:27] <wrst> as far as that type of thing goes
[02:28] <cyberanger> but I'm a debian fan, not a debian jerk (like those who completely turn a blind eye due to a restriction like that)
[02:29] <linuxman410> well i will never use debian again they can have it and their own little world they live in
[02:29] <wrst> yeah cyberanger but my experience with distros like debian, arch to name two is that they are not exactly friendly to people who are perceived to be noobs
[02:30]  * wrst was afraid to even lurk in the arch channel
[02:30] <linuxman410> wrst arch is friendlier than debian channel
[02:31] <wrst> yeah all they do is say read the documentation :)
[02:31] <wrst> or mayb eput it slightly blunter
[02:31] <linuxman410> cyberanger that is not the atitude to have if you want to attract users
[02:32] <wrst> i don't think they are in the attracting users business really?
[02:32] <cyberanger> linuxman410: hence why I don't have the debian jerk attitude
[02:32] <cyberanger> wrst: they are, but they know their market I guess
[02:33] <cyberanger> they are a developers & sysadmin's distro (in the debian jerks eyes, elitism, ugh)
[02:33] <linuxman410> cyberanger if ubuntu had that atitude they would already be gone
[02:33] <wrst> different target audience linuxman410
[02:34] <Unit193> Quite
[02:34] <wrst> debian is looking to like cyberanger stated sysadmins, devs, server guys etc etc
[02:35] <cyberanger> yeah, considering they started out focused with users, I think they've missed that mark some lately, but they are better with support (however arch really excells there)
[02:35] <linuxman410> wrst puppylinux is one of the nicest rooms i ever been in
[02:37] <cyberanger> wrst: (kinda wrapped servers with sysadmins, in my mind, unless you have the sysadmin's blessing, you stay 20 feet back, not the guy to piss off, and break a server, oh boy it's a long day of insults & such ahead)
[02:37] <wrst> yeah
[02:38] <wrst> but ubuntu is really geared towards users
[02:38] <wrst> and arch is towards , well I don't really know people that do crazy junk
[02:39] <cyberanger> wrst: really, you don't know anybody who practilly specializes in "crazy junk" computer projects
[02:42] <wrst> hmm cyberanger, well you :)
[02:42] <wrst>  and you use debian
[02:42] <cyberanger> amoungst others
[02:43] <wrst> well off to bed I go good night all
[02:43] <cyberanger> arch (barely) ubuntu (build off a cli install to openbox or lxde though) crunchbang, LPS
[02:43] <cyberanger> night wrst
[02:44]  * cyberanger has to be up at 6AM for the 3rd day in a row, I really ought to consider it
[02:44] <Unit193> Hmmm... No fun
[02:47] <cyberanger> Unit193: worthwhile, but not fun
[03:02] <crunchbang> wrst u here
[03:02] <cyberanger> he just left for the night it seems
[03:03] <cyberanger> how's it going linuxman410 aka crunchbang
[03:03] <crunchbang> cyberanger it is me linuxman410
[03:03] <crunchbang> crunchbang supports broadcom
[03:07] <cyberanger> was pretty sure it did
[03:08] <cyberanger> it's my main fallback from my day to day setup
[03:08] <cyberanger> short of a special task
[03:20] <cyberanger> what's up average_guy
[03:24] <average_guy> still fighting this computer :(
[03:24] <average_guy> thought this would be EASY
[03:25] <average_guy> Boot-Repair didn't work wrst
[03:30] <average_guy> you should see this ghetto-ass HDD I workin with... the size of a VHS tape and holds 4GB
[03:33] <cyberanger> lol
[03:45] <average_guy> I guess I throwing in the towel.. I REALLY wanted the clunky 4 GB Win drv to be first. But I just can't figure out how to make it boot into linux on the other drive..
[03:46] <average_guy> I will just phisically switch the 2 drives..
[03:46] <average_guy> I know how to do it if the linux drive is sda
[04:02] <Unit193> wrst: Your IRC server is going down Weds
[04:06] <cyberanger> Unit193: as in 5 minutes ago, 4 hours and 5 minutes ago, or anytime in the next 19 hours and 55 minutes
[04:06] <Unit193> UTC I would assume :P
[04:06] <cyberanger> or anytime in the next 24 hours, 55 minutes ago
[04:07] <cyberanger> as would I, but I've noticed they don't post it like it's UTC (or even BST, since it's a british foundation backing them)
[04:10] <linuxman410_> cyberanger bodhi is awesome
[05:07] <Unit193> I think I was on the wrong side...
[05:18] <cyberanger> Unit193: you mean there was a right side?
[05:18]  * cyberanger wonders if he can get a banana with that split
[05:19] <Unit193> Not for that one...
=== locobot_4_2 is now known as locobot_4
[05:41] <cyberanger> and again
[05:41] <cyberanger> oh, wait never mind, just two stupid bots
[05:41] <cyberanger> no affence locobot_4 & MootBot
[05:43] <Unit193> MootBot is old and replaced by meetingology
[05:45]  * cyberanger wonders if that's a joke or not
[05:45] <cyberanger> I mean, ubuntu's be weird to me lately
[05:47] <Unit193> Why would it be a joke?
[05:47] <Unit193> @whois
[05:47]  * Unit193 didn't think so
[06:08] <cyberanger> hrm
[06:08] <cyberanger> intresting
[06:09] <Unit193> meetingology (~supybot@ubuntu/bot/meetingology)
[06:10] <Unit193> It's the meeting bot in #ubuntu-meeting
[06:10] <cyberanger> yeah, whois & google'd it
[06:10] <Unit193> (And a plugin in mine)
[06:11] <Unit193> Wonder who owns it
[06:12] <cyberanger> trying to find out
[06:13] <Unit193> Ah, where do the meeting logs go?
[06:13] <cyberanger> well, Ubuntu, but looks like alot of info comes from an Alan Bell
[06:13] <Unit193> Alan Bell owns meetingology
[06:15] <cyberanger> http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/
[06:15] <cyberanger> Unit193: yeah, based on what I see, but it's an offical ubuntu bot
[06:16] <cyberanger> Unit193: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bots/ubuntu-bots/meetingology
[06:16] <Unit193> Look at the hostmask, meetingology is
[06:19] <Unit193> Asked in there, give it a sec
[06:19] <cyberanger> well, that too
[06:19] <cyberanger> asked in where?
[06:20] <Unit193> -irc, but -bots might have it too
[06:20] <cyberanger> I'm looking for alanbell
[06:20] <cyberanger> ah, probally #ubuntu-uk
[06:21] <Unit193> He is
[06:22] <cyberanger> kinda hoping there was a more approate channel
[06:23] <Unit193> There is, give me a sec
[06:24] <cyberanger> 1 missippi
[06:24] <cyberanger> 2 missippi
[06:24] <cyberanger> 3 missippi
[06:24]  * cyberanger quits being a smart allick
[06:25] <cyberanger> 5 missippi
[06:25] <cyberanger> :P
[06:25] <cyberanger> sorry, good mood finally relaxing
[06:27] <Unit193> #ubuntu-scribes ?
[06:31] <cyberanger> I recognize some people I know, but nope
[06:32] <Unit193> That's the registered owner
[06:33] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot
[06:34] <cyberanger> say what?
[06:35] <cyberanger> oh, yeah, the scribes team, but lacks Alan
[06:36] <cyberanger> does include akgraner, who I've met, seen seen `seeker around, and of course MootBot
[06:45] <Unit193> < jussi> seeker is a good contact for mootbot, and alanbell for meetingology
[06:57] <Unit193> Got what you needed? It's EggDrop
[07:05] <cyberanger> think so, we'll see
[07:06] <Unit193> Great, I had just updated the stupid wiki
[07:07] <Unit193> PM or...?
[07:07] <cyberanger> yep
[07:08] <cyberanger> god the job done, we'll try it in october, I think it'll be even better than mootbot
[07:08] <Unit193> Uhh... You may want to request MootBot removed or clash :P
[07:10] <cyberanger> request nah, I'll just kick him & invite him back
[07:10] <Unit193> /remove ;)
[07:10] <cyberanger> actually, was joking, but uh, after saying that
[07:10] <cyberanger> hrm
[07:11] <cyberanger> error, command not found
[07:12] <Unit193> /quote remove MootBot :meetingology is here
[07:12] <Unit193> Oh, channel too
[07:16]  * Unit193 fails and googles
[07:20] <Unit193> Can't figure it out :P
[07:27] <cyberanger> figure out what
[07:28] <Unit193> DCC
[07:29] <cyberanger> your behind a firewall
[07:29] <cyberanger> not direct
[07:29] <cyberanger> based on the one I accepted
[07:29] <Unit193> dcc_port = 9373 and forwarded
[07:29] <cyberanger> I mean, that's what it looks like
[07:30] <cyberanger> but error in sending data, and vice versa I figure
[07:30] <cyberanger> (so I closed it down)
[09:08] <Unit193> cyberanger: Oh, did you ever read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology ?
[09:08]  * Unit193 looks at time and pretends he's already sleeping
[12:09] <wrst> greetings average_guy
[12:10] <average_guy> good morning wrst
[12:11] <average_guy> any big plans today wrst?
[12:12] <wrst> just work average_guy
[12:12] <wrst> you?
[12:13] <average_guy> Nah, not me.  Just the usual- trying to take over the world
[15:00] <Xpistos> Hey anyone know how to configure a vpn tunnel?
[15:18] <wrst> Xpistos: sadly I don't
[15:18] <wrst> but I bet cyberanger does :)
[15:18]  * wrst notes that is his answer to everything
[15:18] <Xpistos> lol
[19:09] <johansmitsNL>  I have a question about X-Forwarded-Proto within the lighttp config, can some one help me out?
[19:14] <wrst> hi johansmitsNL, I'm afraid if you even know what that is you have way outsmarted me :)
[19:21] <pace_t_zulu> johansmitsNL: i'm not sure what brings you to our corner of freenode.net
[19:22] <pace_t_zulu> johansmitsNL: it appears as if you arrived here in error
[19:24] <pace_t_zulu> johansmitsNL: you are welcome to stay ... Regarding your question about X-Forwarded-Proto - this is not the best place to get that answered
[19:24] <johansmitsNL> can you tell me where to goto?
[19:29] <pace_t_zulu> johansmitsNL: #ubuntu is going to be a more appropriate place than #ubuntu-us-tn
[19:29] <johansmitsNL> ok thnx
[19:29] <pace_t_zulu> johansmitsNL: i'd recommend you try to find a channel specific to X-Forwarded-Proto or lighttp ...
[19:30] <johansmitsNL> thnx
[19:30] <pace_t_zulu> johansmitsNL: if such a channel exists - that's your best bet
[19:30] <pace_t_zulu> johansmitsNL: good luck
[19:30] <pace_t_zulu> johansmitsNL: i could tell you're not from here ;)
[19:30] <pace_t_zulu> you dutch?
[19:30] <pace_t_zulu> football fan?
[19:30] <johansmitsNL> yes
[19:30] <johansmitsNL> yes
[19:36] <Unit193> #lighttpd with 134 nicks may help
[19:37] <johansmitsNL> I am on there now
[19:37] <Unit193> Well, aren't I the slow one
[19:38] <wrst> yes you are Unit193 :P
[19:38] <Unit193> wrst: In every way!
[19:39] <wrst> ho no I am in every way
[19:44] <johansmitsNL> some one with lighttp knowledge here, I am in the lighttpd room but not that much response that I can use
[19:45] <Unit193> I've used it for very extreamly basic needs
[19:45] <Unit193> wrst: Na, people ask you Arch stuff
[19:46] <wrst> Unit193: I ask you more complicated stuff, vista stuff
[19:46] <johansmitsNL> is it possible to check in the config on a request header?
[19:47] <johansmitsNL> I want to do a redirect if the X-Forwarded-Proto is incorrect
[19:48] <Unit193> Unless anyone else here knows, your best bet is with the LightHTTPD folks :/
[19:49] <johansmitsNL> ok :)
[19:50]  * Unit193 will be of no use
[20:07] <Unit193> Hold on tight! A few more to come
[20:09] <Unit193> That's the biggest split done, but expect to see most of our EU servers split in the  next 15 mins or so || correction: about 5 EU ervers will split in the next 15 mins or so
[21:12] <johansmitsNL> got an answer for my problem with lighttp, check http://paste.lighttpd.net/3661 for the solution
[21:16] <cyberanger> need to thank the weechat developers for a very good filtering system, with good rules by default
[21:16] <cyberanger> makes it easier to read around all the netsplits
[21:17] <Unit193> Mine isn't bad though
[21:18] <cyberanger> Unit193: was asleep for only an hour though, more of a nap
[21:18] <cyberanger> wrst: intresting answer for everything ;-)
[21:19] <wrst> ha ha its all cyberanger :)
[21:19] <wrst> that's my answer
[21:20] <Unit193> Maybe I should adopt that one...
[21:21] <wrst> been working for me Unit193 :)
[21:22] <wrst> but notice i didn't ask him how to fix vista
[21:23] <cyberanger> notice my expected reply
[21:23] <wrst> :)
[21:23]  * cyberanger hands wrst an unoffical vista fix called crunchbang
[21:24]  * cyberanger hands wrst an unoffical vista fix called ubuntu
[21:24]  * cyberanger hands wrst an unoffical vista fix called backtrack
[21:24] <wrst> cyberanger: i got it going good enough with Unit193's help
[21:24]  * cyberanger hands wrst an unoffical vista fix called knoppix
[21:24]  * cyberanger thinks the point has been made
[21:24]  * wrst agrees
[21:24] <wrst> on all the above :P
[21:24] <cyberanger> but just to be sure....kidding
[21:25] <wrst> well time for me to escape work catch everyone later!
[21:25] <Unit193> Adios
[21:26]  * cyberanger hands wrst a hacksaw hidden in a cake, hope it helps with the shackles
[21:28] <Unit193> Thermite, plastic explosives, torch. hmmm... I'm missing something
[21:32] <cyberanger> Unit193: yes, you are, the hacksaw came from your toolshed
[22:00] <linuxman410> wrst u here
[22:01] <linuxman410> cyberanger u here
[22:07] <cyberanger> hey linuxman410
[22:09] <linuxman410> cyberanger i am here now
[22:09] <linuxman410> cyberanger have u ever tried bodhi linux
[22:10] <cyberanger> yeah
[22:10] <linuxman410> cyberanger new version has kernel 3.0 nice
[22:11] <Unit193> cyberanger: What did you think of it?
[22:11] <linuxman410> cyberanger this is what i have been looking for add what u need i love it
[22:13] <linuxman410> Unit193 i like it better than lubuntu
[22:14] <Unit193> Well, I was asking cyber, but good for you?
[22:15] <linuxman410> Unit193 lubuntu let me down i recommended it to a hotel and it crash their computer
[22:15] <cyberanger> linuxman410: haven't used it with 3.0 yet
[22:16] <cyberanger> for me I just wound up building from ground up
[22:16] <cyberanger> not compiling, but a very frugal package selection
[22:16] <linuxman410> cyberanger this os is awesome i have on laptop and desktop it takes up one gig space
[22:17] <Unit193> That wouldn't have to be an Lubuntu problem, but that's also not the point
[22:17] <cyberanger> linuxman410: I've got mine lower than that, not by too much (and toss in some music it shoots up
[22:18] <cyberanger> Unit193: idk, I think I've hit that point where customization outweighs any boxed distro
[22:19] <linuxman410> Unit193 lubuntu started crashing on my computer when i started updating when updates came out so i do not know what the problem is
[22:19] <cyberanger> boxed, prepackaged
[22:20] <linuxman410> cyberanger that is why i like bodhi customize it with as much or little as you like
[22:20] <cyberanger> linuxman410: my level of customization is low(er) level though
[22:21] <linuxman410> cyberanger i install and update bodhi through commandline
[22:21] <cyberanger> like tweaking plymouth & grub even
[22:22] <cyberanger> modifing startup services
[22:24] <linuxman410> cyberanger i was using puppy but no login i like it when u have to login
[22:24] <cyberanger> I like it when you have to not just login, but decrypt the drive
[22:25] <cyberanger> (I can get around logins, but not encryption
[22:25] <cyberanger> I may be able to deal with encryption, but can't bypass it)
[22:28] <linuxman410> cyberanger is your os a little ubuntu and a little something else
[22:29] <cyberanger> well, depend on the computer now, inspired by pfsense & crunchbang, built off of debian base install on some
[22:29] <linuxman410> cyberanger how do you encrypted it when u start with a commandline system
[22:30] <cyberanger> others are ubuntu based
[22:30] <cyberanger> alternate installer for ubuntu (which is debian's normal installer) has the preresquites for it
[22:31] <cyberanger> I set the whole hard disk as a physical partition for encryption
[22:31] <cyberanger> setup a partition on a (different) usb drive for /boot
[22:32] <cyberanger> then setup lvm2 under that encrypted partition and all my partitions (aside from /boot) under lvm2
[22:33] <cyberanger> bootloader can't be encrypted, so it's guarded a bit stricter
[22:34] <cyberanger> linuxman410: I've gotta head to the bank real quick, I'll be back in 30 min to an hour
[22:35] <linuxman410> cyberanger ok
[22:36] <cyberanger> I'll fill you in further, answer questions (if you have any) when I get back
[22:44] <wrst> linuxman410: i'm sorta here
[22:45] <linuxman410> wrst how r u
[22:46] <wrst> good linuxman410 just popped in the win 8 pre-release
[22:46] <wrst> or prebeta bot post alpha thingy they have out
[22:46] <wrst> how are you?
[22:46] <linuxman410> wrst how is it
[22:46] <wrst> developer preview yeah that's it
[22:47] <wrst> have no clue linuxman410 just starting and gotta head out for most of the night so hope to get it installed tonight
[22:48] <linuxman410> wrst let me know
[22:49] <wrst> will do linuxman410
[22:49] <wrst> looks to me from what little I have seen that win 8 is going to look like kde and gnome shell had some sort of sick twisted love child
[22:50] <Unit193> Ahahaha
[22:52] <wrst> well that iso was corrupted to try another day
[22:52] <wrst> maybe windows doesn't like virtualbox?
[22:53] <Unit193> Someone tried it in VBox working
[22:53] <wrst> well off I go I will give it one more chance
[22:54] <Unit193> vmware didn't though
[22:54] <wrst> yeah i'm not overly worried about it :)
[22:55] <wrst> but do like to see what satan has going for him these days and what stupid questions I can look forward to in the future
[23:02] <Unit193> "It was good. Much better than I expected from M$. (as for scared, the UX is pretty bad right now, but as soon as they convert more programs to Metro, they've got a very, _very_ solid product)"
[23:03] <Unit193> No internets with VBox on Win V
[23:16] <cyberanger> back
[23:18] <cyberanger> wrst: calling microsoft satan is giving satan too much credit
[23:19] <cyberanger> after all, never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by stupidity
[23:20] <cyberanger> linuxman410: how much of that made sense
[23:21] <linuxman410> cyberanger all of it
[23:21] <cyberanger> oh well um
[23:21] <cyberanger> I guess I'll have to screenshot it all
[23:22] <cyberanger> (your not the only person I've failed to easily explain this to)
[23:23] <linuxman410> cyberanger i am using crunchbang with encrypted lvm
[23:24] <linuxman410> cyberanger just installed it
[23:26] <cyberanger> so the only difference then is your unencrypted /boot partition is on the same disc
[23:27] <linuxman410> cyberanger it ask for a password before it will boot
[23:29] <cyberanger> linuxman410: yes, but where is the code for it to boot that far (it's in your uncrpyted /boot partition, so the disc isn't truely fully encrypted)
[23:30] <linuxman410> cyberanger i am using seperate folders for everything
[23:37] <linuxman410> cyberanger u still here