[00:00] <charlie-tca> but it might be in ~/.config or ~/.ristretto instead
[00:04] <NOLOG> it's neither in ~/.cache nor in ~/.config and there's no ~/.ristretto :(
[00:06] <NOLOG> however there's a subfolder called .ristretto, but it doesn't contain the uris
[00:06] <NOLOG> either
[00:09] <NOLOG> i'm on xfce if that helps
[00:18] <NOLOG> quick search for "recent" doesn't help either
[00:18] <NOLOG> this is ugly
[00:19] <NOLOG> it must be stored somewhere, but it's nowhere
[00:19] <NOLOG> and the full-text search doesn't work too
[00:31] <well_laid_lawn> NOLOG: I can't find it either
[00:31] <NOLOG> solved, it was in ~/.local/share
[00:31] <NOLOG> recently_used.xbel iirc
[00:32] <NOLOG> good night everyone
[06:30] <osiris> what is the recomended sound system for xfce4. pulseaudio seems to be generating a lot of cpu activity
[06:30] <osiris> soundblaster card.  ubuntu 10.04
[06:47] <kokoshmusun> I'm switching from gnome.  I'm used to gnome apps.  If I install gnome apps on xubuntu, does it mean they install the gnome libs, and does that mean that my xubuntu is more bloated and less efficient/speedy?
[06:47] <Myrtti> depends on the apps
[06:48] <kokoshmusun> how can I figure out which apps will install gnome libs?  And is it a matter of degree or is it all-or-none?  That is, e.g., some apps install a few gnome libs and other apps install a lot of gnome libs?
[06:49] <Myrtti> matter of degree
[07:23] <kokoshmusun> how to set up edge-bindings (e.g., move mouse to top right, show desktop:  top left, zoomed out app windows)
[07:39] <kokoshmusun> edge bindings can't be set up in xfce.  ok!
[08:43] <Wizzir> good morning
[08:54] <laoen> hi! Installed oneiric beta. Nearly there, looks nice, but needs some help?
[09:40] <Sysi> laoen: oneiric support at #ubuntu+1 but you might get ansver to generic enough question here too
[09:49] <laoen> Thanks. Have a nice install on asus n55s laptop. Problem is restart gives black screen. Must restart in recovery mode and login. Then sudo start lightdm. Then all ok.  Any ideas?
[10:13] <knome> laoen, sounds like a question for #ubuntu+1
[10:14] <laoen> have asked there now. No replies yet. Thanks!
[10:14] <knome> np
[10:29] <Vegar> are there any instructions/guides for switching from ubuntu to xubuntu without reinstalling?
[10:30] <well_laid_lawn> !purexfce
[10:31] <well_laid_lawn> !info xubuntu-desktop
[10:32] <Vegar> ah, nice, thanks
[10:32] <Vegar> I've only installed the xubuntu-desktop package, but I'm pestered by some annoying bugs
[10:32] <Vegar> most notably a broken ssh-agent
[10:36] <well_laid_lawn> Vegar: is it running?
[10:36] <Vegar> yes
[10:37] <Vegar> both ssh-agent and gnome's keyring thingy is running
[10:37] <Vegar> the problem is that ssh-agent overwrites an environment variable created by gnome-keyring-daemon
[10:39] <well_laid_lawn> so ssh-agent needs stopping or reconfiguring?
[10:39] <Vegar> ssh-agents needs to not be started
[10:40] <Vegar> err
[10:40] <Vegar> the ssh-agent needs to not be started
[10:41] <Vegar> something in xfce starts the ssh-agent
[10:44] <well_laid_lawn> it starts with a new user session from what I can find out
[10:51] <well_laid_lawn> there's a few ppl on the forums asking this Vegar
[10:59] <well_laid_lawn> Vegar: do you have the .pub key in .ssh ?
[10:59] <Vegar> yes
[11:00] <well_laid_lawn> k
[11:00] <Vegar> it works very well when I use gnome
[11:01] <Vegar> however, when I log in to xfce, ssh-agent overwrites the SSH_AUTH_SOCK environment variable that is set by gnome-keyring-daemon, which breaks things
[11:06] <well_laid_lawn> apparently ssh-agent is part of the gdm scripts that get run at login
[11:10] <Vegar> hmm.. interesting
[11:10] <Vegar> perhaps that is where it has to be disabled
[11:10] <Vegar> thanks for the tip, well_laid_lawn
[11:10] <well_laid_lawn> np:)
[11:12] <Vegar> so both xfce _and_ gdm tries to start ssh-agent
[11:13] <Vegar> and ssh-agent is in the openssh-client package
[11:13] <Vegar> there's some really poor design going on here
[11:37] <Vegar> aha
[11:37] <Vegar> I found the bug
[11:38] <Vegar> Sep 12 18:46:55 vegar-laptop gnome-keyring-daemon[1612]: couldn't set environment variable in session: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[12:42] <kokoshmusun> how to move mac files to ubuntu, complete system
[12:54] <xubuntu126> hola
[12:55] <xubuntu126> como le hago para que xubuntu muestre de nuevo el gestor de ventanas?
[14:42] <Fenixdeux> ach.. Sie haben linky in hier. #wikipedia-en habst ein policy "keine sprächende botter"
[14:43] <Fenixdeux> warum nicht ich frage
[14:43] <Fenixdeux> oops.. wrong channel
[15:44] <Daniel_Paim> Hello World
[15:45] <Daniel_Paim> Can you make for me a customized xubuntu linux version like mangaka linux?
[15:45] <Daniel_Paim> My processos is a atom but atom sux for ubuntu live cd
[15:46] <charlie-tca> Daniel_Paim: Have you tried the Xubuntu cd?
[15:47] <charlie-tca> Unless you are using an ARM system, it should work
[15:48] <Daniel_Paim> charlie-tca: Xubuntu pc dont are complete like super os or mangaka linux
[15:48] <Daniel_Paim> mangaka linux and super os are ubuntu based
[15:49] <charlie-tca> I am not familiar with either one of those.
[15:49] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu is an official build based on Ubuntu, those probably have things in them that we can not do
[15:50] <Sysi> you mean you want restricted-extras installed on livecd? that's illegal, they would be there otherly
[15:50] <Daniel_Paim> Sysi: why super os or mangaka linux haves it?
[15:50] <Daniel_Paim> In my country codecas arent illegal
[15:50] <Sysi> they don't care about licensing
[15:50] <Daniel_Paim> In live in brazil
[15:51] <Daniel_Paim> ekaaty uses codecs by default
[15:51] <Sysi> there are some distributions like that with xfce too, check mint
[15:51] <Daniel_Paim> Sysi:  thanks
[15:51] <Daniel_Paim> Sysi: why mint are illegal?
[15:52] <Sysi> it technically isn't legal
[15:52] <Daniel_Paim> Sysi: why?
[15:52] <Sysi> though I guess licensing stuf isn't really directly illegal
[15:52] <charlie-tca> Daniel_Paim: images we produce must be legal in every country, not just some of the countries
[15:53] <Daniel_Paim> charlie-tca: Can you manke images in another country of me?
[15:53] <Daniel_Paim> ;)
[15:53] <charlie-tca> You can images for your country.
[15:53] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu can not produce specialized country images
[15:53] <Sysi> doesn't brazil require special version of openoffice because of licenses/trademarks/something
[15:53] <Daniel_Paim> charlie-tca:  which country have all codecs by default?
[15:54] <Daniel_Paim> i will go live
[15:54] <Sysi> because installing that one package is so hard?
[15:55] <Daniel_Paim> I dont like install linux. I use only in live dvd
[15:55] <Daniel_Paim> Sysi:  I am a windows use. I use linux only in live dvd or live cd
[15:55] <charlie-tca> Then you should make a live cd just for your own use
[15:57] <Daniel_Paim> charlie-tca: hey you're boring. Could I do this favor. you will not be arrested for it.
[15:57] <charlie-tca> This discussion is over. Please do not discuss it further.
[15:57] <Daniel_Paim> charlie-tca:  =P
[16:00] <Sysi> atom is too slow when you run from cd, right
[17:17] <zus> hello, where would i go to learn how to create xfce gui?
[17:20] <charlie-tca> zus: probably #xfce-devel ?
[17:23] <zus> charlie-tca:  thanks.
[17:35] <zus> is there a release date for xubuntu 11.10 yet?
[17:35] <charlie-tca> October 13, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[17:36] <zus> thanks.
[17:37] <charlie-tca> yw
[17:46] <Wizard> good evening
[20:03] <aversion> Bonsoir :-)
[20:04] <aversion> j'ai une petite question si quelqu'un peux m'aider
[20:05] <moetunes> aversion:  there's a french channel
[20:07] <Pici> !fr
[20:07] <Unit193> He's already gone...
[20:07]  * Pici should know better ;)
[20:59] <B4ckBOne> Hi
[20:59] <B4ckBOne> im trying to compile kaffeine, but it fails due to some xine check. Can sb help me out?
[21:04] <TheSheep> B4ckBOne: why are you compiling it? just use the one from repository
[21:05] <B4ckBOne> TheSheep: im compiling it against yavdr's libxine-dev with vdpau capabilities. to be able to see hd tv on my living room tv
[21:07] <B4ckBOne> TheSheep: cmake runs  /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindXine.cmake which checks for a version greater than 1.1.0
[21:07] <B4ckBOne> my version number is: 1.2.0~hg20110831.1320-0yavdr0~natty
[21:08] <B4ckBOne> thats from the yavdr ppa, which somehow breaks the check routine
[21:08] <TheSheep> run 'sudo apt-get build-dep kaffeine' -- that should install all the needed dependencies
[21:10] <B4ckBOne> TheSheep: ok thanks, did that. It installed: pkg-kde-tools python-scour, the ran "cmake " again, but it broke at the exact same spot
[21:12] <TheSheep> then you either fix the version number, fix the checking script or report a bug in that ppa
[21:12] <B4ckBOne> TheSheep: the easiest way would be to fix the checking script, i think
[21:13] <TheSheep> you can event edit it to always think you have the right version
[21:15] <B4ckBOne> TheSheep: http://pastie.org/2533947 thats the script. What would you change?
[21:15] <TheSheep> what does your 'xine-config' return?
[21:16] <TheSheep> xine-config --version
[21:16] <TheSheep> sorry
[21:16] <B4ckBOne> 1.1.90
[21:16] <TheSheep> you see that commented out "if (true)" in line 31?
[21:17] <TheSheep> comment out the line 30 and uncomment 31
[21:17] <B4ckBOne> TheSheep: yes that was my try to fix it .. but  it did not
[21:17] <B4ckBOne> TheSheep: it broke the whole check :-D
[21:17] <TheSheep> well, comment out line 30 and 34 ten
[21:18] <B4ckBOne> ok ill try now
[21:18] <TheSheep> (and 31 too, of course)
[21:18]  * TheSheep hates m4 and autotools
[21:19] <B4ckBOne> TheSheep: another error occours CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:25 (add_subdirectory):
[21:23] <corvus> Hey, all. Relative newcomer to Linux here. I plan on installing an older GeForce MX400 in my older desktop in a couple of days. Does Xubuntu autodetect?
[21:25] <corvus> Anyone?
[21:26] <charlie-tca> I use MX4000 in my machines, it works quite well with the default drivers, but has no 3d
[21:26] <corvus> Is that the 64 mb agp version?
[21:28] <charlie-tca> I have one PCI model, which is dual vga output, and one agp model
[21:29] <corvus> Did Xubuntu autodetect it?
[21:30] <charlie-tca> yes
[21:30] <charlie-tca> but I don't have the hardware drivers for it in Oneiric
[21:37] <corvus> How are you liking Oneiric so far? Many differences between it and Natty?
[21:37] <charlie-tca> Not many differences for us, no
[21:37] <charlie-tca> I think it boots much faster, though
[21:38] <corvus> Ah. Cool.
[21:38] <charlie-tca> and it has a prettier plymouth splash screen
[21:39] <corvus> Nice. Any idea when it's due for launch?
[21:44] <charlie-tca> October 13
[23:39] <Ciervo> hi
[23:40] <charlie-tca> !hi | Ciervo
[23:41] <Ciervo> just wondering, how do I know the wireless drivers I'm using?
[23:41] <Ciervo> I had some problems recently, like it is still connected to the access point but no internet connection
[23:42] <Ciervo> (just had to reconnect to get it working again)
[23:42] <charlie-tca> !wireless
[23:42] <Ciervo> and now, I've removed the closed broadcom drivers but wireless still working (rare?) and with the same behaviour
[23:43] <Ciervo> so I'd like to remove whatever drivers are installed
[23:45] <charlie-tca> Well, normally all the drivers are supplied by the kernel, and they are built in. If you installed a driver, when removing it, you have to restart to make the change take effect.
[23:46] <Ciervo> yes, I did
[23:47] <Ciervo> the thing is, it has to be the default drivers
[23:47] <Ciervo> because on -sigh- Windows it works OK
[23:47] <Ciervo> and now with an USB wifi works OK too