apachelogger | http://i.imgur.com/YtM9Z.png <-- famous | 00:00 |
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claydoh | pretty:) | 00:08 |
claydoh | I think I will toss a coin to pick my phone | 00:08 |
apachelogger | claydoh: http://www.sylloge.com/5k/entries/162/ | 00:09 |
apachelogger | much bettar | 00:09 |
claydoh | naw it has to be low-tech | 00:09 |
claydoh | plus i have to decide which is yes and which is no :) | 00:10 |
apachelogger | just go "should I buy the phone x oh mighty universial decison maker?" | 00:10 |
claydoh | battery life and much better screen vs slightly better camera/flash and nicer feel to the case | 00:11 |
apachelogger | battery life and screen tops everything IMHO | 00:12 |
claydoh | I think better screen and battery win, as I am outdoors a lot | 00:12 |
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lunarcloud | for anyone who was looking at and/or editing the google doc associated with the upcoming release announcement, a google docs bug forced me to backup and recreate the document (i know how not to reproduce). So it's now located: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nQobLCdkgk5QZK3qgIIJ3X1J_rZXeZT5ZsYAsCXL8IU/edit?hl=en_US with full edit access. | 01:09 |
DarkwingDuck | I prolly ought to come up with a session or two | 01:18 |
DarkwingDuck | jjesse_: ping | 01:42 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: ping | 01:42 |
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* DarkwingDuck sighs | 03:10 | |
claydoh | DarkwingDuck: why so sad? | 03:23 |
DarkwingDuck | claydoh: People playing with the docs have not been filling out the work items. | 03:23 |
DarkwingDuck | So, I have to review almost all of them instead of what hasn't been done. | 03:24 |
DarkwingDuck | Can someone bzr branch lp:kubuntu-docs and tell me the active revision? | 03:25 |
tsimpson | DarkwingDuck: wouldn't "bzr revno lp:kubuntu-docs" tell you that? | 04:05 |
DarkwingDuck | I got my issues worked out. | 04:05 |
valorie | DarkwingDuck: pong | 04:34 |
valorie | sorry, I had guests | 04:34 |
valorie | and freenode kicked me off anyway | 04:34 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: awesome. I answered my own questions. | 04:41 |
DarkwingDuck | :D | 04:41 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: You're not going to be in Orlando? :( | 04:41 |
valorie | I forgot to apply | 04:41 |
valorie | :( | 04:41 |
valorie | thought I had a few more days | 04:42 |
valorie | but I didn't | 04:42 |
DarkwingDuck | :( bugger | 04:42 |
DarkwingDuck | Okay, I'm going to be up for a while. | 04:42 |
DarkwingDuck | I have to figure out what all jjesse did on the docs. | 04:42 |
valorie | I'm getting back to work on them in a sec | 04:42 |
valorie | downloaded the checking thingie, and have been looking at the docs | 04:43 |
valorie | I've found one broken image link | 04:43 |
valorie | dunno what to do about it though | 04:43 |
valorie | oops | 04:44 |
valorie | /kubuntu/docs/audio/C/burning.html - no first image | 04:44 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: did you finish Audio, bugs, CLI, Contact, contribute and basics? | 04:49 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: ^^ | 04:52 |
valorie | yes, but I just found a problem in bugs | 04:55 |
valorie | which I will fix right now | 04:55 |
DarkwingDuck | Okay cool. | 04:55 |
valorie | I got errors again last night | 04:55 |
valorie | are they already pushed? | 04:55 |
DarkwingDuck | Yes | 04:55 |
valorie | it doesn't like me uploading more than one file, i guess | 04:56 |
DarkwingDuck | This is what I've been complaining about people not updating https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-documentation-review | 04:56 |
valorie | should I have different names for each thing or something? | 04:56 |
DarkwingDuck | I got it updated though | 04:56 |
valorie | I updated that every time though! | 04:56 |
valorie | maybe it didn't take my input? | 04:56 |
valorie | it looked like it did...... | 04:56 |
valorie | shi*, there are a lot of TODOs | 04:57 |
valorie | ;( | 04:57 |
DarkwingDuck | Yeah, you have to click the green checkmark when you are finished. | 04:57 |
DarkwingDuck | Yeah, I brewed a fresh pot. | 04:57 |
DarkwingDuck | By tomorrow I'll update the POT files and build | 04:58 |
DarkwingDuck | THey hand off to translations. | 04:58 |
DarkwingDuck | s/THey/then/ | 04:58 |
kubotu | DarkwingDuck meant: "then hand off to translations." | 04:58 |
micahg | can someone tell me what type of warning they get in konqueror with this website: https://www.aivd.nl | 05:01 |
DarkwingDuck | micahg: give me a sec | 05:05 |
DarkwingDuck | micahg: http://imm.io/9cAa | 05:07 |
micahg | :(, that's what I want to see | 05:07 |
DarkwingDuck | Sorry | 05:08 |
micahg | hmm, maybe it's just a 4.6/4.7 difference | 05:08 |
micahg | I get that in maverick now | 05:08 |
micahg | DarkwingDuck: thanks for the help | 05:09 |
fabo | ScottK: I have the sslv2 issue in my todo. I think there's a better way to resolve the issue | 05:09 |
DarkwingDuck | micahg: I'm getting the error in Firefox as well. I can just ignore it in FF | 05:09 |
micahg | DarkwingDuck: right, in QT, it's a straight blacklist, in Firefox the blacklist was conditional on when the cert was issued whether or not it could be ignored | 05:10 |
DarkwingDuck | Righto | 05:11 |
ScottK | fabo: OK. We're getting very close to the end here, so any suggestions you have I'd greatly appreciate. We probably only have about two or three more shots to upload Qt before release. | 05:11 |
DarkwingDuck | ScottK: YOu are not going to be able to make it to Orlando, correct? | 05:13 |
ScottK | It's very unlikely at this point. | 05:13 |
DarkwingDuck | :( | 05:19 |
DarkwingDuck | very sad | 05:19 |
* micahg is saddened by that as well, who else am I going to stay up to 4 in the morning talking to :) | 05:22 | |
DarkwingDuck | I'll be there :P | 05:23 |
micahg | please say hi :) | 05:23 |
DarkwingDuck | Oh I will... We need to schedule a kubuntu picture meeting time. | 05:27 |
valorie | I would say that I'll fly on my own dime, but it's RIGHT after the doc camp and mentor summit | 05:27 |
valorie | so bad timing, even if I was sponsored | 05:27 |
valorie | DarkwingDuck: I can no longer edit https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-documentation-review | 05:35 |
valorie | is it locked, or what? | 05:35 |
valorie | am gonna work on desktop | 05:38 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: It shouldn't be... are you logged into LP? | 05:39 |
valorie | yes | 05:39 |
DarkwingDuck | strange... | 05:39 |
valorie | perhaps i should log out and in again? | 05:39 |
valorie | I just requested merge for bugs | 05:39 |
DarkwingDuck | It should let you edit under the "Whiteboard" section | 05:39 |
valorie | again | 05:39 |
DarkwingDuck | URL for the merge request? | 05:40 |
valorie | oh, now it's letting me | 05:40 |
valorie | https://code.launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits/+merge/75478 | 05:40 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: revision 231 | 05:46 |
ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=231&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 231 | Coolo: removed the removed gif files | 05:46 |
DarkwingDuck | ubottu: you suck at life | 05:47 |
ubottu | DarkwingDuck: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 05:47 |
DarkwingDuck | ubottu: I know I know. | 05:47 |
ubottu | DarkwingDuck: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 05:47 |
DarkwingDuck | Anyone in here actually used Krita? | 05:55 |
DarkwingDuck | Like, is it stable enough to include in documentation? | 05:55 |
DarkwingDuck | WTF? | 05:56 |
DarkwingDuck | Krita requires KOffice? | 05:56 |
ScottK | It's part of koffice. | 05:57 |
DarkwingDuck | Interesting. | 05:58 |
DarkwingDuck | I had forgotten that. | 05:58 |
DarkwingDuck | How stable is it? | 05:58 |
shadeslayer | hey guys, morning | 06:00 |
shadeslayer | hey valorie | 06:00 |
DarkwingDuck | Morning | 06:03 |
DarkwingDuck | shadeslayer: You ever used Krita? | 06:03 |
shadeslayer | nope | 06:03 |
valorie | hi shadeslayer | 06:14 |
valorie | I saw it demoed at DS | 06:14 |
valorie | looked pretty damn cool | 06:15 |
valorie | Krita is a part of Calligra, as I recall | 06:15 |
valorie | KDE should be providing the documentation | 06:15 |
shadeslayer | valorie: Google won't allow me to stay for the Mentor Summit, carols said it was a mentors only event :'( | 06:16 |
valorie | right, mentors and admins | 06:17 |
shadeslayer | yeah | 06:17 |
valorie | but you'll be there for doc camp, right? | 06:17 |
shadeslayer | yep | 06:17 |
shadeslayer | if i get the visa :P | 06:17 |
valorie | cool | 06:17 |
valorie | I'm looking forward to both | 06:17 |
shadeslayer | :D | 06:18 |
valorie | but I'll bet it will be exhausting too | 06:18 |
shadeslayer | just have to figure out accomodation for the 22nd now | 06:18 |
valorie | so I'm sort of glad that I'm not going to orlando | 06:18 |
shadeslayer | haha | 06:18 |
valorie | but oh, I want to be there anyway | 06:18 |
valorie | i just wish there was more time between | 06:18 |
valorie | one week between CLS/OSCON and flying to Berlin was NOT enough | 06:19 |
shadeslayer | valorie: i found some awesome flights this time, they take only 18 hours | 06:19 |
valorie | heh | 06:19 |
valorie | 25 hours to Berlin | 06:19 |
valorie | sec | 06:19 |
shadeslayer | maybe i should borrow apachelogger's spaceship this time | 06:20 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: Doc Camp? | 06:22 |
valorie | yes, the week before the Mentor's Summit | 06:23 |
valorie | GSoC spinoff, I guess | 06:23 |
valorie | it's the first time they've done it | 06:23 |
nigelb | shadeslayer: you took 25 hours to berlin? | 06:24 |
valorie | I'm in the same team as shadeslayer - we'll be working on documenting how to get involved in KDE | 06:24 |
jussi | shadeslayer: spaceships are for people from the past, we need a teleporter | 06:24 |
valorie | Seattle is a looooong ways from Berlin | 06:24 |
* micahg would be happy with a shuttlecraft | 06:24 | |
valorie | I did have a two hour or so layover in New Jersey | 06:24 |
valorie | there is no more KDE Menu editor, am I correct? | 06:26 |
valorie | because the Kickoff is now just a plasma widget, right? | 06:26 |
shadeslayer | nigelb: eh no, that would be valorie :P | 06:27 |
valorie | oops, no | 06:27 |
nigelb | YOu guys have no imagination. Or forgot Star Trek. | 06:27 |
nigelb | I just want my own personal transporter :P | 06:27 |
shadeslayer | heh | 06:28 |
shadeslayer | spaceships are more cooler | 06:28 |
nigelb | but slower | 06:29 |
shadeslayer | so? | 06:29 |
shadeslayer | much more fun tho :P | 06:29 |
nigelb | instant gratification is more win :P | 06:29 |
shadeslayer | and if i understand teleportation correctly, the actual you is lost and a clone is received at the other end :P | 06:30 |
nigelb | Don't get philosphical with technology :P | 06:30 |
shadeslayer | hahaha | 06:31 |
DarkwingDuck | Uggh | 06:33 |
jussi | oh yay for fun. all the things that are suposed to slide out from the panel slide from the top... fixes plskthxbai | 06:34 |
tsimpson | jussi: learn C++, then Qt, then KDE, kthxbye! | 06:36 |
tsimpson | and Python while you're at it :) | 06:36 |
DarkwingDuck | Yay! | 06:37 |
DarkwingDuck | Only 3 more docs | 06:37 |
jussi | tsimpson: AWW, dont be mean :( | 06:38 |
tsimpson | actually, learn C++, then Python. it's a lot easer once you know C++ and you won't fall into bad practices from learning an interpreted language first | 06:44 |
shadeslayer | ^^ true that | 06:44 |
valorie | putting up desktop, DarkwingDuck | 06:44 |
shadeslayer | tsimpson: i usually prototype my classes in python and then convert it into C++ | 06:45 |
valorie | https://code.launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits/+merge/75485 | 06:45 |
shadeslayer | uhm | 06:46 |
valorie | give me a hint as to what you'd like me to work on next | 06:46 |
shadeslayer | valorie: i see diff markers | 06:47 |
shadeslayer | +>>>>>>> MERGE-SOURCE | 06:47 |
valorie | what do you mean? | 06:47 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: Yeah... | 06:47 |
DarkwingDuck | Toss that out and review all the docs. I went through and made a bunch of changes. | 06:47 |
DarkwingDuck | Look for three keys. | 06:48 |
DarkwingDuck | any spelling error. Any ref to KpackageKit and any ref to OpenOffice | 06:48 |
valorie | what? | 06:49 |
valorie | that was an hour of work | 06:49 |
valorie | bleah | 06:49 |
DarkwingDuck | :/ | 06:49 |
DarkwingDuck | I made those changes :P:P | 06:49 |
DarkwingDuck | make sure you update your branch | 06:49 |
valorie | I did | 06:49 |
valorie | I've been following your doc guide religiously | 06:50 |
DarkwingDuck | revision 336? | 06:50 |
ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=336&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 336 | MRJ: Added new ported xlock screensavers from Emanuel Pirker <epirker@edu.uni-klu.ac.at> | 06:50 |
DarkwingDuck | ubottu: I hate you | 06:50 |
ubottu | DarkwingDuck: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 06:50 |
valorie | I'm not sure what you are asking | 06:50 |
DarkwingDuck | Should have marked it on the Work Items | 06:50 |
valorie | I did | 06:50 |
valorie | and saved that | 06:51 |
DarkwingDuck | It wasn't... | 06:51 |
valorie | :( | 06:51 |
valorie | oh, well | 06:51 |
valorie | ok, I'll go back to the review thing | 06:51 |
DarkwingDuck | :) | 06:51 |
DarkwingDuck | I'm just looking for ref to KPackageKit and OpenOffice | 06:51 |
DarkwingDuck | Those need to be shot. | 06:51 |
DarkwingDuck | Replaced with Muon and LibreOffice | 06:51 |
valorie | I wanted it correct, and I made it correct | 06:52 |
DarkwingDuck | and if it's &menukpackagekit; it needs to be changed to &menusysmuon; | 06:52 |
* DarkwingDuck hugs valorie | 06:52 | |
DarkwingDuck | I'm sorry :( | 06:52 |
* valorie goes and makes a gin and tonic | 06:56 | |
* DarkwingDuck yells at nixternal | 07:03 | |
DarkwingDuck | I am so going to update these damn scripes | 07:19 |
DarkwingDuck | s/scripes/scripts/ | 07:19 |
kubotu | DarkwingDuck meant: "I am so going to update these damn scripts" | 07:19 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: hows it coming? | 07:23 |
valorie | delicious! | 07:24 |
DarkwingDuck | :D | 07:24 |
DarkwingDuck | Up for a lst minute review? | 07:25 |
DarkwingDuck | s/lst/last | 07:25 |
valorie | sure | 07:25 |
DarkwingDuck | Like I said... Just look through for refs to KPackageKit and OpenOffice | 07:26 |
valorie | tell me *exactly* what you want me to do | 07:26 |
DarkwingDuck | :D | 07:26 |
DarkwingDuck | I'm going to be re-writing these damn scripts | 07:26 |
valorie | which ones? | 07:26 |
DarkwingDuck | The validation and pot generation scripts | 07:28 |
DarkwingDuck | I'm going to make it simplier to validate and make pot files. | 07:29 |
valorie | cool | 07:30 |
valorie | anyway, tell me exactly what to do and I'll do it | 07:30 |
valorie | no more wasted work | 07:31 |
DarkwingDuck | You use Kate? | 07:31 |
valorie | yes | 07:32 |
DarkwingDuck | if you can go into each xml file in the branch, click Ctrl+F and search each document for refrences to both OpenOffice and KpakcageKit | 07:33 |
DarkwingDuck | They should be changed to LibreOffice and Muon respectivly. | 07:34 |
DarkwingDuck | or how ever you spell it. | 07:34 |
valorie | ok | 07:34 |
valorie | <sect1 id="bluefish-editor"> | 07:41 |
valorie | <title>Bluefish Editor - Web Development Editor</title> | 07:41 |
valorie | <para>Home page: | 07:41 |
valorie | <ulink url="http://bluefish.openoffice.nl"> http://bluefish.openoffice.nl </ulink> | 07:41 |
valorie | in Development.xml | 07:41 |
valorie | dunno what that is | 07:41 |
valorie | and I didn't change it | 07:42 |
valorie | fixing games.xml atm | 07:44 |
DarkwingDuck | that for bluefish, you can leave that one. | 07:44 |
valorie | did | 07:44 |
valorie | pushed games | 07:48 |
valorie | and there is an error | 07:50 |
valorie | dunno why the last one is still active -- you refused it | 07:50 |
DarkwingDuck | .......... hmmmz | 07:51 |
valorie | and launchpad showed that | 07:53 |
DarkwingDuck | You pulled first right? | 07:54 |
valorie | pulled? | 07:54 |
valorie | update, status, commit, then push | 07:54 |
valorie | I can paste you my changes if that helps | 07:57 |
valorie | http://paste.kde.org/121495 | 07:59 |
DarkwingDuck | Thanks, gimme a sec | 08:03 |
DarkwingDuck | That's in games? | 08:04 |
valorie | yes | 08:04 |
valorie | search for kpackage and you'll find the paragraph | 08:04 |
DarkwingDuck | Okay, Thanks. :D | 08:04 |
bambee | morning | 08:10 |
DarkwingDuck | Morning :) | 08:12 |
valorie | graphics - fixing | 08:13 |
valorie | pushing | 08:15 |
valorie | s l o w Launchpad | 08:17 |
valorie | oh good grief | 08:19 |
valorie | oops, I hadn't entered my passphrase | 08:21 |
valorie | lawd | 08:21 |
valorie | another error | 08:22 |
valorie | There is already a branch merge proposal registered for branch lp:~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits to land on lp:kubuntu-docs that is still active. | 08:22 |
valorie | no idea why | 08:22 |
DarkwingDuck | hang on. | 08:24 |
DarkwingDuck | Okay, give it a couple minutes then try again. | 08:24 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: give it another shot. | 08:25 |
valorie | proposed successfully | 08:26 |
DarkwingDuck | XD | 08:26 |
valorie | fixing index.xml | 08:28 |
DarkwingDuck | hang on... | 08:28 |
DarkwingDuck | I gotta figure out why it is showing the diff markup | 08:28 |
valorie | ok | 08:29 |
DarkwingDuck | Because, that will mess everything up. :( | 08:30 |
DarkwingDuck | On a brighter note... | 08:31 |
DarkwingDuck | there are really cool automated scripts for validation now. | 08:32 |
DarkwingDuck | Hey Riddell | 08:35 |
valorie | ready to push when you're ready | 08:35 |
DarkwingDuck | try it again.l | 08:36 |
valorie | the previous one? | 08:38 |
valorie | done | 08:39 |
Riddell | hi DarkwingDuck | 08:39 |
valorie | hey Riddell | 08:39 |
valorie | are you coming to UDS? | 08:39 |
Riddell | valorie: I will if you will :) | 08:40 |
valorie | argh! | 08:40 |
valorie | I'd have to pay my own way | 08:40 |
valorie | and i would, if it wasn't so darn close to the doc camp and mentor summit | 08:40 |
valorie | god though, a few days on the river with darby...... | 08:41 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: can you look at this and figure out why it's showing the diff markup for valorie? https://code.launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits/+merge/75496 | 08:41 |
valorie | that's heaven | 08:41 |
Riddell | DarkwingDuck: looks like it needs to pull from trunk and fix the conflicts | 08:42 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: ^^^ | 08:42 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: I'm *finally* fixing the pot scripts for the docs | 08:43 |
Riddell | yay | 08:43 |
valorie | but I do an update, status, commit, then push | 08:43 |
valorie | every time | 08:43 |
valorie | as the Documentation guide recommends | 08:44 |
DarkwingDuck | GARG | 08:44 |
valorie | downloaded from trunk only a week or so ago | 08:44 |
DarkwingDuck | update == pull | 08:44 |
valorie | and have done the update every time | 08:45 |
* DarkwingDuck goes to fix his damn guide | 08:45 | |
valorie | I've been doing it wrong? | 08:45 |
valorie | geeeeez | 08:45 |
debfx | Riddell: how can I tell bzr commit to open an editor instead of guessing the commit message from the changelog? | 08:47 |
Riddell | BZR_DISABLE_PLUGINS=builddeb bzr commmit | 08:47 |
Riddell | debfx: ^^ | 08:48 |
debfx | Riddell: thanks | 08:51 |
* debfx creates an alias | 08:52 | |
DarkwingDuck | valorie is going to give up on me. | 09:03 |
bambee | apachelogger: did you import your fixes btw ? (for kde-workspace) I can do it, if you want... | 09:03 |
valorie | I'll at least push the last changes I made | 09:04 |
valorie | if that will help | 09:04 |
valorie | I do need to sleep eventually | 09:04 |
DarkwingDuck | LOL | 09:04 |
DarkwingDuck | How far did you get? | 09:04 |
valorie | I have index.xml ready to push | 09:06 |
valorie | if you want it | 09:06 |
DarkwingDuck | Aye | 09:07 |
valorie | do you have the last one yet, or what? | 09:07 |
valorie | and how /when should I pull? | 09:07 |
valorie | the Documentation doc hasn't changed | 09:07 |
DarkwingDuck | merge away | 09:08 |
bulldog98_work | DarkwingDuck: http://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/documentation | 09:11 |
valorie | another error | 09:12 |
valorie | same as before | 09:12 |
valorie | this sucks | 09:12 |
bulldog98_work | DarkwingDuck: also http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Get_a_SVN_Account and mention apachelogger :) | 09:12 |
valorie | the entire index.xml is at http://paste.kde.org/121519/ if that is of use, DarkwingDuck | 09:18 |
valorie | niters all | 09:18 |
valorie | manage-software will need fixing | 09:19 |
valorie | but I don't think I'm the person to do it | 09:19 |
DarkwingDuck | I'll finish it. thanks for EVERYTHING valorie | 09:20 |
valorie | I'll check the rest | 09:26 |
valorie | and report those which need changes | 09:26 |
DarkwingDuck | valorie: I've got it. | 09:29 |
DarkwingDuck | I've made most of the changes. | 09:29 |
valorie | cool | 09:30 |
shadeslayer | valorie: whoa, it must probably be 3 AM for you | 09:30 |
valorie | 2:30 | 09:30 |
valorie | about average for me | 09:30 |
shadeslayer | oh .. alright, night :) | 09:31 |
valorie | video mentions kpackagekit | 09:31 |
valorie | so I've checked them all | 09:32 |
jussi | Hrm, I have an idea - how about we provide a decent set of default headings and styles in libreoffice - not something that looks like it came out of the 90's... Is this possible? can I help define these? who do I need to contact to get this started? | 09:33 |
debfx | yofel_: what's the url of your bzr branch overview page? | 09:33 |
DarkwingDuck | thanks valorie | 09:34 |
DarkwingDuck | Yay! | 09:34 |
DarkwingDuck | docs updated | 09:34 |
DarkwingDuck | now to test my new script for generating pot files. | 09:35 |
ejat | :) | 09:37 |
DarkwingDuck | YAY! | 09:38 |
DarkwingDuck | It's crude as all get out but, it works! | 09:38 |
DarkwingDuck | ls | 09:38 |
DarkwingDuck | oops, wrong window | 09:38 |
DarkwingDuck | anyone in here work with translations? | 09:42 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: ping | 09:46 |
Riddell | hi DarkwingDuck | 09:47 |
jussi | DarkwingDuck: dpm is the translations man ;) | 09:48 |
DarkwingDuck | hey Riddell, question about getting the docs to translation. | 09:48 |
DarkwingDuck | I have updated the pot files. | 09:48 |
DarkwingDuck | What else do I need to do to get them uploaded or whatever. :D | 09:48 |
Riddell | have the package uploaded to the ubuntu repository with the pot files updated | 09:49 |
Riddell | tell the translators to translate it | 09:49 |
DarkwingDuck | I need to build the package? | 09:50 |
Riddell | someone does | 09:50 |
* DarkwingDuck mutters | 09:50 | |
DarkwingDuck | I guess now is a good time to learn to build packages... | 09:50 |
Riddell | then before the release get the .po files and turn them into docbook and upload that | 09:50 |
DarkwingDuck | Righto | 09:50 |
DarkwingDuck | http://paste.kde.org/121525/ my xml to pot script for our docs :D | 09:50 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: does the bzr build-deb work? :P:P | 09:51 |
Riddell | maybe but it doesn't build source packages, that still done the same way | 09:51 |
Riddell | dch -i to add a changelog | 09:51 |
Riddell | debuild -S to build source package | 09:52 |
DarkwingDuck | I'll give this a shot and see how I do. | 09:53 |
Riddell | make sure you move the .bzr directory out the way before running debuild -S | 09:54 |
bulldog98_work | who is responsible for kubuntu.org? the links to Locos are not working. eg http://www.kubuntu.org/support/deutsch | 10:18 |
DarkwingDuck | bulldog98_work: give me a moment and I'll look at it. | 10:19 |
* bulldog98_work hugs DarkwingDuck | 10:19 | |
bulldog98_work | can we get branding for http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-flavor-kubuntu.html ? | 10:20 |
bulldog98_work | some thing like http://status.kubuntu.org/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-flavor-kubuntu.html | 10:20 |
DarkwingDuck | bulldog98_work: make a note of it for me at UDS. | 10:24 |
DarkwingDuck | I'll work on that while I'm working on getting help.k.o | 10:24 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: seems I will definitely need a cpp ical parser | 10:24 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: in qml you cannot thread a qtobject | 10:24 |
apachelogger | only javascripts | 10:24 |
bulldog98_work | DarkwingDuck: I will not attend uds, and where can I I do notes like that? | 10:30 |
DarkwingDuck | bulldog98_work: make a note at the bottom of this page. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-P | 10:34 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: heh :P | 10:36 |
shadeslayer | will have a go over the weekend | 10:36 |
apachelogger | also I need to envision storage and sync at some point | 10:37 |
shadeslayer | i'm pretty sure we can store with libical | 10:37 |
apachelogger | also I had the awesome idea of making it a one stop info app for uds stuff ... a venue map could be added, travel documents could be added, travel information | 10:38 |
apachelogger | maybe even notes, so that all the uds stuff is in one place ^^ | 10:38 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: and sync? | 10:38 |
shadeslayer | ^_^ | 10:38 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: maybe syncevolution? | 10:39 |
apachelogger | on a phone? | 10:39 |
shadeslayer | syncevolution is made for phones as well :P | 10:39 |
apachelogger | for something as trivial as vevent? | 10:39 |
shadeslayer | vevent? | 10:39 |
apachelogger | events in a cal | 10:39 |
shadeslayer | ah | 10:39 |
apachelogger | the fatness of all the components is killing me | 10:39 |
shadeslayer | heh :P | 10:40 |
* apachelogger is thinking about sync from remote ical to local storage | 10:40 | |
shadeslayer | kmustleave now | 10:41 |
shadeslayer | cya | 10:41 |
apachelogger | o/ | 10:41 |
DarkwingDuck | wow, apachelogger is awake now? | 10:44 |
DarkwingDuck | And I have not been to bed yet :/ | 10:44 |
debfx | is there anything else in kde-workspace that we need to fix? | 10:44 |
apachelogger | bambee: plz import the mighty patches | 10:45 |
debfx | which patches? | 10:45 |
apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: you should totally go to bed really | 10:45 |
apachelogger | debfx: the foundations of rootonly kcm fix | 10:46 |
debfx | I've already added them | 10:46 |
apachelogger | bambee: debfx has already added them | 10:46 |
bambee | oh great | 10:46 |
apachelogger | debfx: uploaded too? | 10:46 |
debfx | no, I'll upload it now | 10:47 |
apachelogger | you are the awesomest | 10:47 |
debfx | apachelogger: they replace the old kcm root path, right? | 10:47 |
debfx | *patch | 10:47 |
apachelogger | yes | 10:47 |
debfx | ok | 10:47 |
DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: Yeah, I should but, I needed to finish these docs. | 10:48 |
DarkwingDuck | the freeze is today. | 10:48 |
apachelogger | oh my | 10:48 |
DarkwingDuck | I finished them. | 10:50 |
DarkwingDuck | I built a bunch of new validation scripts | 10:50 |
DarkwingDuck | I build a fixed pot script | 10:50 |
DarkwingDuck | and now I'm trying to get this to build... | 10:51 |
DarkwingDuck | How the hell do I give the key for debuild? | 10:51 |
apachelogger | -k | 10:51 |
DarkwingDuck | -k key? | 10:51 |
apachelogger | -k0x1243256 or -k"My Name" | 10:52 |
DarkwingDuck | or just -k | 10:52 |
apachelogger | hm | 10:53 |
apachelogger | jon the taco polluted the userconfig pkg with debian-changes patches | 10:53 |
apachelogger | eeew | 10:53 |
DarkwingDuck | Hmmz... | 10:54 |
DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: what do I change to get the package to reflect 10.10 and not 10.04? | 10:57 |
apachelogger | what is the package? kubuntu-docs? | 10:58 |
DarkwingDuck | Yes | 10:58 |
apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: in debian/changelog make sure your entry has the version 11.10ubuntu1 as version and oneiric in the field next to it | 10:59 |
apachelogger | kubuntu-docs (11.10ubuntu1) oneiric; urgency=low | 11:00 |
apachelogger | like that | 11:00 |
DarkwingDuck | awesome. Thanks. | 11:00 |
DarkwingDuck | dch -i kubuntu-docs (11.10ubuntu1) oneiric; urgency=low ? | 11:01 |
DarkwingDuck | Sorry for the dumb question... learning | 11:01 |
apachelogger | dch -v 11.10ubuntu1 -D oneiric | 11:01 |
DarkwingDuck | AHHHHH! | 11:02 |
apachelogger | if you do not define oneiric it shoudl default to UNRELEASED | 11:02 |
DarkwingDuck | Thanks | 11:02 |
apachelogger | which will prevent you from uploading, so you'd usually run it without the -D as UNRELEASED prevents you form "accidental" uploads ^^ | 11:02 |
apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: also mind that you should use SERIESubuntuREVISION as version, unlike what rich did | 11:03 |
apachelogger | that way you can run dch -i after the first revision | 11:03 |
DarkwingDuck | Will do. :D | 11:03 |
DarkwingDuck | Right. | 11:03 |
apachelogger | and it will *correctly* increment | 11:03 |
apachelogger | whereas with 11.04.1 it will increment to 11.04.1ubuntu1 | 11:03 |
DarkwingDuck | Yeah... that sucks | 11:04 |
DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: This is my first time :D | 11:05 |
DarkwingDuck | Okay, I have it built. | 11:05 |
DarkwingDuck | where do I upload for translation? | 11:05 |
DarkwingDuck | where/how | 11:05 |
apachelogger | I believe yo ujust need to uploaded | 11:05 |
apachelogger | dpm: will know ^ | 11:06 |
DarkwingDuck | How does that work? | 11:06 |
DarkwingDuck | like, how do you upload? :) | 11:06 |
DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: You'll love my xml to pot script :D http://paste.kde.org/121525/ | 11:06 |
apachelogger | you need a sponsor for the upload | 11:07 |
apachelogger | as you are not a dev you cannot upload yoruself | 11:07 |
apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: Oo | 11:07 |
apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: dude, like you could totally have made a 4 line loop out of that :O | 11:07 |
* apachelogger is scared away | 11:07 | |
dpm | apachelogger, DarkwingDuck, on the phone, let me come back to you in a minute | 11:07 |
DarkwingDuck | dpm: awesome! | 11:08 |
DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: That's what happens when you unleash me on scripts on zero sleep. :D | 11:08 |
DarkwingDuck | nixternals scripts were broken. | 11:08 |
apachelogger | even my qml from late in the night is better than that :P | 11:09 |
apachelogger | unreadable though | 11:09 |
DarkwingDuck | LOL | 11:09 |
DarkwingDuck | So, how would you do it? :P:P | 11:09 |
apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/689903/ | 11:09 |
DarkwingDuck | I'm NOT good at bash scripts at all | 11:09 |
DarkwingDuck | XD | 11:09 |
apachelogger | so... that intially gets an array of ical events, then it creates an array with 7 entries (to contain the events per-day) then it iters over all those 7 entries and fills them with each an array (i.e. [[],[],[]...] is the models afterwards) at the same time it creates another array and fills it with 7 entries that contain the pages to display the vents per weekday | 11:12 |
apachelogger | then it iters over all entires in the original array, and checks which day they belong to and pushes each into the appropriate sub-array | 11:13 |
apachelogger | then it sets the appropriate array of events as model on their pages and if the model is not empty it creates a button to access that page | 11:14 |
* apachelogger is so meta, he even meta described the meta code there | 11:14 | |
DarkwingDuck | :D | 11:16 |
* DarkwingDuck rubs eyes | 11:32 | |
apachelogger | kubotu: order coffee for DarkwingDuck | 11:33 |
* kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to DarkwingDuck. | 11:33 | |
DarkwingDuck | Thank you kubotu | 11:33 |
DarkwingDuck | Anyway, to upload to ubuntu... how does that work apachelogger? | 11:33 |
apachelogger | you give a developer your source package | 11:34 |
apachelogger | tell him to uplaod or else... | 11:34 |
DarkwingDuck | what's your email addy apachelogger? | 11:34 |
DarkwingDuck | :P:P | 11:34 |
* apachelogger is coding | 11:35 | |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: ping XD | 11:35 |
Riddell | hi DarkwingDuck | 11:36 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: care to upload a package for me? | 11:37 |
Riddell | sure | 11:37 |
DarkwingDuck | jr@ubuntu? | 11:37 |
Riddell | jriddell@ubuntu | 11:37 |
DarkwingDuck | just the tar.gz or do you need the .dsc too? | 11:38 |
jussi | he needs your SOUL... bwahahaha... :P | 11:46 |
DarkwingDuck | LOL | 11:47 |
DarkwingDuck | WTF!? | 11:48 |
* DarkwingDuck sighs | 11:48 | |
* DarkwingDuck kicks nixternal again | 11:48 | |
Riddell | DarkwingDuck: building locally to check it out | 12:00 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: Sorry I didn't sned both of them the first time. :) | 12:01 |
DarkwingDuck | Let me know how I did. :D | 12:01 |
DarkwingDuck | My first package | 12:01 |
DarkwingDuck | LOL | 12:01 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: did it build? | 12:07 |
* jussi high 5's DarkwingDuck | 12:21 | |
DarkwingDuck | Justing waiting for it to be uploaded, email the translators and then I can go to bed. | 12:21 |
DarkwingDuck | :D | 12:21 |
DarkwingDuck | then I have till they are done to finish the script for turning pot files into xml files again. | 12:22 |
Riddell | DarkwingDuck: yes | 12:28 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: Cool! | 12:28 |
DarkwingDuck | jjesse: docs are done. | 12:31 |
DarkwingDuck | jjesse: I built it and just waiting for them to get uploaded. | 12:31 |
Riddell | DarkwingDuck: uploaded, congratulations on your elite packaging skills | 12:32 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: yeah, not quite elite yet... but, it's a start :) | 12:35 |
DarkwingDuck | Yay! the version is finally right. thanks apachelogger | 12:39 |
DarkwingDuck | https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs/+packages if you don't know what I'm talking about :D | 12:40 |
DarkwingDuck | Okay, sleepy time. Thanks Riddell and I'll only bug you one more time for an upload this series :D | 12:41 |
Riddell | you haven't been to sleep? give your head on the pillow man | 12:42 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: Today is the Doc freeze. Needed to finish this up. | 12:43 |
DarkwingDuck | It's only 5:45a | 12:43 |
Riddell | your dedication to the cause is appreciated :) | 12:43 |
DarkwingDuck | I need to write better scripts. :) | 12:44 |
DarkwingDuck | But, that can wait. | 12:44 |
DarkwingDuck | dpm: package uploaded ready for translation mate. | 12:44 |
DarkwingDuck | aaaaaand on that note, I'm off to bed. Night guys | 12:45 |
dpm | DarkwingDuck, thanks | 12:45 |
DarkwingDuck | dpm: actually on time for once :D | 12:45 |
dpm | excellent :) | 12:45 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell, apachelogger thank you both for your help | 12:46 |
dpm | DarkwingDuck, if you've got the chance tomorrow, it'd also be great if you could have a quick look at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/kubuntu-docs and tell us if there is any obsolete template we should disable from there | 12:48 |
bulldog98_work | dpm: until when do I have to translate it to get it included? | 12:48 |
dpm | bulldog98_work, until the NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline milestone on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | 12:49 |
bulldog98_work | so I havetime until next week | 12:49 |
dpm | that's rather in 2 weeks time | 12:50 |
DarkwingDuck | dpm: welcome-desktop, netbook, about-desktop, about-kubuntu are obsolete and about has been added. | 12:50 |
* bulldog98_work has time next week and needs to get accepted as German translator to approve that | 12:51 | |
dpm | DarkwingDuck, disabled, thanks. | 12:53 |
DarkwingDuck | dpm: anything else you need from me? | 12:53 |
dpm | DarkwingDuck, that's all I think. If you could just have a look from time to time on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/kubuntu-docs/+imports to see that the translations appear there and have been imported, that'd be great | 12:54 |
dpm | just to make sure they are imported fine | 12:54 |
DarkwingDuck | dpm: Awesome. Will do. Thanks! | 12:54 |
dpm | DarkwingDuck, no worries, thank _you_! :-) | 12:54 |
DarkwingDuck | :D Now that I know what I'm doing fully, it'll be like this every cycle. :D | 12:54 |
dpm | awesome :) | 12:55 |
apachelogger | maco: could you pretty please merge the commit for bug 743062 | 13:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 743062 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-kde welcome page layout is suboptimal in German" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743062 | 13:07 |
apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: you are still not in bed? :O | 13:07 |
bambee | DarkwingDuck: what time is it at your home ? | 13:09 |
CIA-130 | [userconfig] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110915131042-65xq2rnoxorh5ggd * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed) | 13:10 |
CIA-130 | Change x-kde-rootonly in the desktop file to x-kde-substitudeuid, former was | 13:10 |
CIA-130 | only supported by a patch in workspace which is now implemented upstream but | 13:10 |
apachelogger | bambee: whatever happend to your cpp rewrite? | 13:11 |
apachelogger | or was that someone else? | 13:11 |
bambee | apachelogger: It works but it's not usable yet (and not finish yet). Dude, I've too much things to do v_v (phonon, kdelibs, davros, kubuntu)... I will fork myself... I think... | 13:18 |
apachelogger | same here | 13:19 |
apachelogger | bambee: is the code on kdegit yet? | 13:19 |
* bambee has been forked | 13:19 | |
davmor2 | if bambee has been forked is that not cloning? | 13:22 |
* bulldog98_work thinks bambee should save his brain contens in an other persion, so does not need to fork himself :P | 13:26 | |
bulldog98_work | s/persion/person/ | 13:26 |
kubotu | bulldog98_work meant: "thinks bambee should save his brain contens in an other person, so does not need to fork himself :P" | 13:26 |
apachelogger | http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml2.mp4 | 14:13 |
bambee | bulldog98_work: if I fork myself my brain contents won't be reduced, but cloned. My productivity will be improved and I will fix the bad code wrote by apachelogger more efficiently :P | 14:39 |
bambee | bulldog98_work: Shhh, he does not know it yet :P | 14:40 |
bulldog98_ | apachelogger: add kgethotnew stuff support and we can also use it for akademy or desktopsummit | 14:41 |
bulldog98_ | bambee: as log as it works and is bug free no prob (and feature complete) | 14:42 |
bulldog98_ | mgraesslin: hi the patch you posted to packagers is awesome :) | 14:45 |
bambee | mgraesslin++ | 14:45 |
bambee | ;) | 14:45 |
bulldog98_ | ~karma mgraesslin | 14:45 |
kubotu | karma for mgraesslin: 4 | 14:45 |
mgraesslin | glad that distributions welcome it :-) | 14:46 |
bulldog98_ | mgraesslin++ | 14:46 |
bulldog98_ | ~karma mgraesslin | 14:46 |
kubotu | karma for mgraesslin: 5 | 14:46 |
bulldog98_ | apachelogger: has someone uploaded the new kde-runtime yet? | 14:46 |
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apachelogger | not that I know of | 14:49 |
apachelogger | take a look at the old lunchpad | 14:50 |
bambee | apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/+junk/kcm-userconfig | 14:50 |
apachelogger | bulldog98: screw kghns, I will make a company for that | 14:50 |
bambee | actually it works in read-only | 14:50 |
apachelogger | ConfMachine Inc. | 14:51 |
apachelogger | bambee: why no write? | 14:51 |
bambee | not finished yet and the code must be cleaned | 14:51 |
bambee | apachelogger: it's not finished yet | 14:51 |
* apachelogger is good at cleaning code | 14:51 | |
bulldog98 | apachelogger: isn’t frank already making money with that? | 14:51 |
bulldog98 | ryanakca: is there also a forum theme in planning (work?) we, the germanspeaking Loco, would need a new one? | 14:53 |
apachelogger | bulldog98: not with providing apps and configs for conference organization | 14:56 |
bulldog98 | apachelogger: as long everything is based on kubuntu and you pay at least an other kubuntu member it’s ok :P | 14:57 |
apachelogger | nope | 14:58 |
apachelogger | all android | 14:58 |
apachelogger | ScottK: I am not getting any branding bug 377220 | 14:59 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 377220 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "Brown splash for openoffice in Kubuntu" [Wishlist,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377220 | 14:59 |
apachelogger | :'( | 14:59 |
bulldog98 | apachelogger: we should think about switching to calligra | 15:00 |
bulldog98 | apachelogger: what about assinging that to libreoffice :) | 15:02 |
apachelogger | bulldog98: you are awesome, plz move to libreoffice ^^ | 15:06 |
apachelogger | bulldog98: also I already told scott that we should kill koffice with fire | 15:06 |
ryanakca | bulldog98: We've never handled forum themes on the grounds that there were no officially affiliated Kubuntu forums. Feel free to contribute one though :) | 15:53 |
bulldog98 | ryanakca: hm we need a theme for our new forum (we switch forum engine) hoped we could build upon something | 15:55 |
ryanakca | bulldog98: You can base it off the new wiki theme, just a second, I'll get you the LP branch | 15:56 |
maco | apachelogger: ok | 15:57 |
ryanakca | bulldog98: lp:~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu-light-wiki-theme | 15:57 |
bulldog98 | ok thanks | 15:57 |
ryanakca | bulldog98: Looks like http://wiki.ryanak.ca/kubuntu/LanguageSetup , I'm told our next drupal theme will be based off of it. | 15:57 |
* bulldog98 needs to get that done next week | 15:58 | |
maco | apachelogger: merged | 16:03 |
debfx | ScottK: do I need some kind of freeze exception to hide useless checkboxes in the polkit-kde dialog? | 16:06 |
apachelogger | maco: domo arigatou :) | 16:06 |
maco | apachelogger: i didnt test it since i dont have a clue how to rebuild an iso so i hope it works :P | 16:08 |
maco | or at least that it doesnt break anything | 16:08 |
apachelogger | it worked when I created it | 16:08 |
apachelogger | btw IIRC you do not need to rebuild the ISO to test ubiquity | 16:09 |
apachelogger | there is some way to do dry run testing | 16:09 |
apachelogger | or at least that is what I remember | 16:09 |
apachelogger | maybe I created my own dry run ^^ | 16:09 |
maco | scp all the pythons :P | 16:11 |
maco | ive tested python (not .ui) changes by just modifying them live | 16:12 |
maco | but i dont think you can do that with .ui files | 16:12 |
apachelogger | actually you can, you just have to restart ubiquity | 16:16 |
apachelogger | IIRC the ubiquity python code compiles the UIs at runtime | 16:16 |
apachelogger | (which BTW I find a very bad idea for speed in the final product) | 16:17 |
bulldog98 | debfx: as long as you don’t any new strings no | 16:21 |
apachelogger | mgraesslin: do we need any patches ontop of 4.7 when using raster as default? | 16:24 |
apachelogger | debfx: we should likely switch to raster at build time rather than env var? | 16:24 |
* mgraesslin doesn't know of any required patches | 16:24 | |
apachelogger | kthx | 16:24 |
bulldog98 | apachelogger: could you reopen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/377220 for libreoffice | 16:27 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 377220 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Brown splash for openoffice in Kubuntu" [Wishlist,Won't fix] | 16:27 |
apachelogger | if rekonq wouldnt forget my cookies all the time | 16:29 |
ScottK | debfx: You do, but all you need is an ack from DarkwingDuck, valorie, or jjesse that it either doesn't affect kubuntu-docs or they're fine with redoing the screenshot. | 16:42 |
ScottK | apachelogger: Someone needs to package and upload the calligra beta then. | 16:43 |
ScottK | (if you want to kill koffice with fire) | 16:43 |
ScottK | And we still have digikam unfixed too | 16:43 |
bulldog98 | ScottK: and we would need digikam 2.1.1 | 16:44 |
debfx | apachelogger: yes, if we haven't received any bug reports about raster | 16:44 |
ScottK | bulldog98: Yes, although I'd settle for 2.0. We're still on 1.9, so something < 1.9. | 16:45 |
bulldog98 | ScottK: maybe we could provide that in experimental or something like that | 16:45 |
ScottK | If someone can give a sane package, I'll approve an FFe for it. | 16:46 |
bulldog98 | ScottK: yofel_ already package 2.0 (but it needs a MIR) | 16:47 |
ScottK | What bug for the MIR? | 16:47 |
apachelogger | debfx: I didn't see any | 16:47 |
apachelogger | ScottK: how is raster on plasma netbook? | 16:47 |
ScottK | apachelogger: Is that our default now? | 16:48 |
apachelogger | has been active the entire cycle | 16:48 |
apachelogger | via xsession export | 16:48 |
apachelogger | ScottK: echo $QT_GRAPHICS_SYSTEM | 16:48 |
apachelogger | eh | 16:49 |
apachelogger | echo $QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM | 16:49 |
apachelogger | should say raster | 16:49 |
ScottK | Then it's fine. | 16:49 |
ScottK | (don't have the netbook handy at the moment) | 16:49 |
bulldog98 | ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/324523 | 16:51 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 324523 in opencv (Ubuntu) "Main inclusion request for OpenCV" [Medium,Won't fix] | 16:51 |
bulldog98 | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/+bug/834190 | 16:51 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 834190 in digikam (Ubuntu) "FFe: digkam 2.0.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:51 |
shadeslayer | bulldog98: don't they have 2.1.1 out now? | 16:54 |
bulldog98 | shadeslayer: they have. You or yofel_ could package it, or me tomorrow | 16:55 |
* bulldog98 must had off till later | 16:55 | |
shadeslayer | yeah, i can give it a shot | 16:55 |
ScottK | bulldog98: At this point getting the opencv MIR in is too late, so we need to figure out how to make digikam work without it. | 16:57 |
ScottK | So 2.0 or 2.1.1, either one needs that done. | 16:58 |
allee | ScottK, shadeslayer: grep -R opencv/ shows that it's usedin libkface and removeredyes. And running cmake without libcv*dev installed fails: OpenCV required but some headers or libs not found. | 17:15 |
allee | digikam without libkface and redeyered is not worth much, isn't it? | 17:16 |
ScottK | So it'll take some surgery. | 17:16 |
ScottK | We've never had the redeye reduction support for this exact reason. | 17:16 |
ScottK | That's not new. | 17:16 |
allee | ScottK: uh, so IMHO: digikam -> universe | 17:25 |
ScottK | allee: It's on the DVD and has been ~forever. Is there no way to work around it? | 17:25 |
debfx | DarkwingDuck: could you please check if we have a screenshot of the polkit authorization dialog in the docs and comment on bug #851090? | 17:35 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 851090 in polkit-kde-1 (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Shows useless ceckboxes in auth dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851090 | 17:35 |
ScottK | debfx and apachelogger: What do you think: Drop digikam from the DVD (Universe) so we can update to 2.1.1 and have redeye reduction? | 17:36 |
ScottK | I guess it's better than staying with 1.9? | 17:37 |
debfx | DarkwingDuck: the dialog is for example shown when you change the Login Screen settings | 17:37 |
debfx | ScottK: I wouldn't worry too much about dropping stuff from the DVD | 17:37 |
ScottK | OK. | 17:38 |
ScottK | Unless apachelogger objects soon, I'll take allee's advice. | 17:38 |
allee | not perfect but best for the users of digikam IMHO | 17:40 |
shadeslayer | i think thats a acceptable solution | 17:41 |
apachelogger | ScottK: off with its head! | 17:42 |
shadeslayer | the other solution would be to put it in a PPA, but i'd rather not do that | 17:42 |
ScottK | OK. | 17:42 |
apachelogger | the difference between having it on the DVD and only universe is not particularly big | 17:42 |
apachelogger | most users install from CD anyway | 17:42 |
apachelogger | only kent beck knows why | 17:42 |
shadeslayer | i don't see why we even have DVD builds :P | 17:43 |
allee | debfx: kauth dialog also show a popup(?) menu when more than one user is in the admin group. But it neither remembers your last choice or preselect you if you are in the admin group | 17:43 |
apachelogger | kauth is made out of UX fail | 17:44 |
allee | apachelogger: and there are heros like debfx, that fight against the failure | 17:45 |
shadeslayer | i thought agateau fought against UX failure | 17:46 |
apachelogger | doesnt everyone | 17:47 |
allee | shadeslayer: I wrote heros | 17:47 |
allee | note the s :) | 17:47 |
shadeslayer | hehe :D | 17:47 |
apachelogger | and then there is qt quick which supports it thanks to broken elements | 17:47 |
sheytan | apachelogger: got a cool idea of that thing you were asking lately ;) | 18:33 |
sheytan | even without any new artwork needed | 18:34 |
apachelogger | do you also have a cool idea for a UDS mobile app? ^^ | 18:34 |
apachelogger | http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml.mp4 | 18:34 |
apachelogger | http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml2.mp4 | 18:34 |
sheytan | not really, but i'm looking for someone to build libkfacebook for me (natty x64) :D | 18:36 |
* sheytan wonders why it's not default?! | 18:36 | |
* apachelogger does not even know what it is | 18:36 | |
sheytan | apachelogger: akonadi resource for facebook calendar and contacts ;) | 18:36 |
apachelogger | eek, more akonadi | 18:37 |
sheytan | https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/pim/akonadi-facebook/repository | 18:38 |
sheytan | if someone would be so nice :D | 18:38 |
* apachelogger thinks bambee would be perfect for this | 18:40 | |
sheytan | would be awesome :) | 18:40 |
sheytan | btw, this would be cool to like have in default kubuntu install ;D | 18:41 |
apachelogger | sure, if it had sane UX | 18:42 |
sheytan | apachelogger: UX? | 18:43 |
apachelogger | us0r experience | 18:44 |
sheytan | apachelogger: what's not good in it? | 18:45 |
apachelogger | it does not have one :P | 18:45 |
sheytan | it shows all the stuff in kontact, so what's the problem? :P | 18:46 |
apachelogger | exactly that is the problem | 18:46 |
sheytan | where else it should show that data? | 18:47 |
apachelogger | something more usable than kontact anyway | 18:48 |
sheytan | ah | 18:48 |
sheytan | that's the problem here | 18:48 |
sheytan | give them time ;) | 18:48 |
sheytan | it's pretty stable right now | 18:48 |
sheytan | i mean | 18:48 |
sheytan | it doesn't crash at least for me | 18:48 |
sheytan | and i have it from kubuntu experimental repo | 18:48 |
ScottK | micahg: Is there any way to get a reload button to click on in FF? Having it in the right-click menu is very inconvenient. I'm exploring switching back to FF from Chromium and that's one of the two most annoying things (the other is the lack of a duplicate option when opening new tabs) | 19:06 |
apachelogger | hm | 19:08 |
apachelogger | why do we not have qtmobility 1.2? | 19:08 |
debfx | ScottK: the reload button is in the address bar | 19:10 |
ScottK | debfx: No. | 19:10 |
ScottK | Wait | 19:10 |
ScottK | It is. | 19:10 |
debfx | it is when you have loaded a page | 19:10 |
ScottK | I see it now. Thanks. | 19:10 |
bambee | apachelogger: what ? what ? | 19:11 |
debfx | you can also drag'n' drop it to the left | 19:11 |
* bambee reads the log | 19:11 | |
micahg | ScottK: it should be next to the URL bar on the right side | 19:13 |
* bambee adds akonadi-facebook to his todolist | 19:15 | |
ScottK | micahg: It was (as debfx also told me). It was just too small for me to notice. | 19:17 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 19:17 |
micahg | ScottK: I seem to have a problem with backscroll lately, so I miss these things :) | 19:17 |
ScottK | No problem. Thanks for answering. | 19:19 |
micahg | ScottK: and I regret to inform you that I won't be able to get to kdesdk before the freeze, will try to get it over the weekend though | 19:27 |
ScottK | micahg: Thanks. | 19:27 |
DarkwingDuck | morning | 19:51 |
apachelogger | yoyo | 19:52 |
DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: thanks for the help last night. | 19:52 |
apachelogger | I helped? | 19:52 |
DarkwingDuck | With the building. | 19:52 |
* apachelogger had the impression DarkwingDuck did all the work :) | 19:52 | |
DarkwingDuck | Now I know how to build the docs | 19:52 |
debfx | ScottK: is it ok to upload the no-change rebuilds even after the beta freeze? | 19:53 |
apachelogger | now you should write docs about that | 19:53 |
DarkwingDuck | Now, to fix my hack-n-slash job on the scripts | 19:53 |
apachelogger | ^^ | 19:53 |
DarkwingDuck | and build a script for turning the pot files back into xml | 19:55 |
apachelogger | http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml3.mp4 | 19:55 |
apachelogger | mapsmapsmaps | 19:56 |
debfx | DarkwingDuck: have you seen my message about the polkit-kde authorization dialog? | 19:57 |
DarkwingDuck | debfx: I just saw it. Checking now. | 19:58 |
debfx | ah, we still have an hour before beta freeze :) | 19:59 |
debfx | thanks | 19:59 |
DarkwingDuck | debfx: No screenshots. :) | 20:02 |
DarkwingDuck | You're safe. | 20:02 |
DarkwingDuck | debfx: you still need me to comment on the bug? | 20:03 |
DarkwingDuck | jjesse: morning mate. :) | 20:03 |
debfx | DarkwingDuck: yeah that would be good | 20:03 |
debfx | ScottK: could you approve bug #851090 | 20:04 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 851090 in polkit-kde-1 (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Shows useless ceckboxes in auth dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851090 | 20:04 |
DarkwingDuck | debfx: commented. | 20:05 |
DarkwingDuck | bambee: when you asked what time it was... it was 6a | 20:07 |
bambee | o.O | 20:07 |
DarkwingDuck | Aye. :) | 20:08 |
DarkwingDuck | But, the docs got to the translators at the freeze. :D | 20:08 |
* bambee thinks DarkwingDuck was probably drunk to work on documentation at 6a | 20:09 | |
DarkwingDuck | lol | 20:09 |
DarkwingDuck | bambee: You want to see how bad it was last night? Other then my announcement email called Oneiric 10.10 but, this was my script I slashed together. http://paste.kde.org/121525/ | 20:10 |
ScottK | debfx: Done | 20:11 |
DarkwingDuck | ScottK: Don't kill me on that script. I'm re-writing it. | 20:12 |
* ScottK thinks DarkwingDuck overestimates how much he cares ... | 20:12 | |
DarkwingDuck | LOL | 20:13 |
DarkwingDuck | ScottK: Have you looked at it? | 20:13 |
debfx | apachelogger: could you please sponsor https://launchpadlibrarian.net/80002997/polkit-kde-1_0.99.0-3ubuntu1.debdiff | 20:14 |
DarkwingDuck | :P:P | 20:14 |
ScottK | I've done worse. | 20:14 |
debfx | somehow the package vanished from our packageset | 20:14 |
apachelogger | debfx: if you annoy someone about the packageset stuff | 20:14 |
ScottK | Although I don't think I ever put the full FSF copyright/license header on worse. | 20:14 |
DarkwingDuck | LOL | 20:15 |
apachelogger | WTF ftw | 20:16 |
debfx | apachelogger: I've already mailed cjwatson | 20:17 |
debfx | but he doesn't seem to be very responsive | 20:18 |
apachelogger | maybe he does it like apachelogger and doesnt read no mails not at all | 20:18 |
bambee | DarkwingDuck: woo! | 20:20 |
ScottK | Whoever is looking at Digikam should look at Debian Bug #628019 | 20:24 |
ubottu | Debian bug 628019 in digikam "new upstream version: 2.0" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/628019 | 20:24 |
ScottK | It's also got updates for 2.1.1 | 20:24 |
* debfx starts upload the rebuilds semi-automatically and hopes our branches are up-to-date | 20:35 | |
BarkingFish | guys, quick question. I'm in the process of setting up my build layout and the next things would be my gpg key and ssh key. They already exist, but I don't have them on my pc - can I regenerate them or do I have to change them both? | 20:52 |
BarkingFish | as in, can i recover the keys I already have from launchpad and incorporate them, or do I have to make new ones? | 20:52 |
apachelogger | new ones | 20:53 |
apachelogger | launchpad only has public keys | 20:53 |
apachelogger | otherwise the key concept would not work very much :) | 20:53 |
DarkwingDuck | Now, why didn't I do this last night?????? | 20:56 |
DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: So, this is the new script... http://paste.kde.org/121987/ | 20:57 |
apachelogger | muchos better | 20:57 |
DarkwingDuck | :D | 20:58 |
BarkingFish | damn, thanks apachelogger | 20:59 |
BarkingFish | means I gotta re-sign the code of conduct and make a whole new set of keys. | 20:59 |
ScottK | And make a backup copy of your private key and store it somewhere safe. | 21:00 |
* apachelogger has his keys implanted in his chest | 21:01 | |
ScottK | That explains the curvature then. | 21:02 |
apachelogger | yep | 21:02 |
apachelogger | kubotu: order cocktail | 21:03 |
* kubotu tells apachelogger to choose either 'bloody mary', 'cuba libre', 'grüne witwe', 'long island iced tea', 'mai tai' or 'sex on the beach' (with apachelogger that is). | 21:04 | |
apachelogger | uhhh | 21:04 |
debfx | ScottK: so can I continue to upload the rebuilds post beta freeze without the release team chasing me? | 21:04 |
apachelogger | kubotu: order mai tai | 21:04 |
* kubotu shakes 3cl white rum, 1.5 cl orange curaçao, 1.5 cl Orgeat syrup and 1 cl fresh lime juice, strains it into a glass and floats 3 cl dark rum onto the top, and slides the cocktail down the bar to apachelogger. Voilà, your Mai Tai :) | 21:04 | |
ScottK | debfx: yes. I'll just have to manually accept them. | 21:04 |
ScottK | Sooner the better though as it'll break image builds until when things are out of sync. | 21:04 |
BarkingFish | apachelogger, That looks nice. I'll order one too :) | 21:05 |
BarkingFish | kubotu, order cocktail | 21:05 |
* kubotu tells BarkingFish to choose either 'bloody mary', 'cuba libre', 'grüne witwe', 'long island iced tea', 'mai tai' or 'sex on the beach' (with apachelogger that is). | 21:05 | |
BarkingFish | kubotu: order grüne witwe | 21:05 |
* kubotu mixes 4 cl Blue Curaçao and 12 cl orange juice in a glass over ice, stirs it, garnishes with a organge juice and slides the cocktail down the bar to BarkingFish. Voilà, your Grüne Witwe (stupid german names :P) | 21:05 | |
apachelogger | kubotu: stop mocking german words, you silly bot | 21:06 |
BarkingFish | ah, the green widow... | 21:06 |
* BarkingFish prefers the green fairy :) | 21:06 | |
* apachelogger waves fist | 21:07 | |
apachelogger | fairies | 21:07 |
claydoh_ | Ok I have to see..... | 21:08 |
claydoh_ | kubotu, order sex on the beach | 21:08 |
* kubotu builds 4.0 cl Vodka, 2.0 cl Peach Schnapps, 4.0 cl Orange juice and 4.0 cl Cranberry juice in a highball glass filled with ice, garnishes it with orange slices and slides the cocktail together with apachelogger down the bar to claydoh_. Voilà, your Sex on the Beach (with apachelogger) :) | 21:08 | |
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apachelogger | oh great, work -.- | 21:08 |
claydoh | do you pour it for me too? | 21:08 |
claydoh | good thing i don't drink a lot | 21:09 |
BarkingFish | apachelogger, the green fairy, a more affectionate name of absinthe, which can send you absolutely gaga if you drink enough :) | 21:10 |
BarkingFish | contains distilled wormwood oil, which causes blindness, madness and in some cases, death :) | 21:10 |
apachelogger | madness | 21:10 |
apachelogger | I think I had too many fairies in my life already | 21:10 |
BarkingFish | yes, madness. I'm talking proper "cuckoo 42 banana haha horses are in the kettle" type madness | 21:11 |
ScottK | digikam is in Universe now, so someone can upload any time. | 21:12 |
claydoh | someone should feed some absynthe to Kmail2, it might sort it out | 21:12 |
apachelogger | someone could write me a letter | 21:13 |
BarkingFish | D. | 21:13 |
* claydoh may actually move to tbird. I ahve used kmail almost exclusively for about 10 years now | 21:13 | |
BarkingFish | There you go :P | 21:13 |
apachelogger | someone could move to muttttttttt | 21:13 |
claydoh | hrmpf | 21:13 |
claydoh | actually kmal2 is simply too annoying, a drunk, mad kmail2 would so much less fun | 21:15 |
apachelogger | booze parteee | 21:15 |
apachelogger | if the mountain will not come to mohamet, mohamet must go to the mountain | 21:16 |
apachelogger | or for those of us who already are on the way... since kmail2 behaves like a drunken squirrel, we should also do that | 21:16 |
apachelogger | leveling the playing field I suppose one calls this | 21:17 |
debfx | could someone else rebuild the kde packages that are not part of the kde sc? | 21:29 |
apachelogger | debfx: rebuild for what? | 21:30 |
debfx | apachelogger: desktop file translations | 21:30 |
apachelogger | which kde packages are there that are not in the great and mighty package set though? | 21:31 |
debfx | apachelogger: it's not about upload permissions but distributing the workload | 21:34 |
apachelogger | ah | 21:34 |
apachelogger | I am falling asleep | 21:34 |
apachelogger | could do tomorrow | 21:34 |
apachelogger | I suppose | 21:34 |
apachelogger | evening my schedule says | 21:34 |
BarkingFish | YAY! | 21:38 |
BarkingFish | I'm all done. New gpg, new ssh key, code of conduct signed (again) and I'm back up and rolling. | 21:39 |
BarkingFish | about bl**dy time too :) | 21:39 |
BarkingFish | I just have to see whether I have the new or the old version of pull-lp-source now :) | 21:40 |
BarkingFish | oh crud. I have the old version :) | 21:40 |
ScottK | debfx: I just accepted a stack of your uploads. | 21:46 |
DarkwingDuck | hmmz, anyone on the translation team in here? | 21:46 |
BarkingFish | DarkwingDuck, I'm not, but I wish I was :) | 21:53 |
BarkingFish | ScottK, I'm back in business. Everything is live again. | 22:02 |
ScottK | Cool. | 22:02 |
BarkingFish | bazaar's done, pbuilder-dist is set up, got the new version of pull-*-source, the lot. | 22:03 |
ScottK | I think bug triage is probably where it's at right now. | 22:03 |
BarkingFish | yeah, and I'm not great at that as you saw the other day :) | 22:03 |
ScottK | Are you subscribed to the ubuntu-devel and kubuntu-devel mail lists? | 22:03 |
ScottK | I think you just got unlucky. | 22:03 |
BarkingFish | no, not yet | 22:03 |
ScottK | You should do that. ubuntu-devel-announce too. | 22:04 |
BarkingFish | ScottK, I can't read backtraces, stacks or anything like that. I fix 'em when I find 'em, I just don't know *how* to find the problems in the first place :) | 22:04 |
BarkingFish | how do I subscribe to the mailing lists? | 22:05 |
ScottK | BarkingFish: OK.https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel | 22:05 |
ScottK | Same pattern for the others. | 22:05 |
BarkingFish | righty ho | 22:06 |
ScottK | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-September/034086.html is where we are on boost1.42. None of them build without changes, so feel free to have a stab at them. | 22:06 |
ScottK | (check on LP and see if anyone has already fixed them before you spend time on it) | 22:06 |
BarkingFish | all 3 subscribed, just waiting on the confirmation emails | 22:08 |
DarkwingDuck | sheytan: ping | 22:31 |
debfx | apachelogger: how are we going to manage desktop file translations for projects we are upstream? :) | 23:01 |
debfx | like the firefox installer | 23:01 |
apachelogger | need to stay | 23:01 |
apachelogger | at least for the time being | 23:01 |
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
BarkingFish | right guys, i'm off to my pit for the night. See ya this evening :) | 23:02 |
debfx | yeah, but how? | 23:03 |
apachelogger | debfx: too tired to think about that... but do we not have the desktop file key in there by default already? | 23:07 |
yofel | debfx: in case you didn't find it yet: http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/bzrstat/ | 23:07 |
apachelogger | I think userconfig had it | 23:07 |
apachelogger | then again I looked at that file more than 6 hours ago so I would not remember | 23:07 |
yofel | shadeslayer, bulldog98: feel free to take a shot on digikam 2.1.1 - the packaging for 2.0.0 is in bzr and I won't do a thing before sunday | 23:08 |
apachelogger | debfx, yofel: can we please put all them web stuff a) on a wiki page b) in a bzr branch c) transit them to ubuntuwire | 23:08 |
debfx | firefox installer doesn't have it but that could be easily changed | 23:08 |
yofel | apachelogger: I did link it on the ninjas page overview | 23:08 |
apachelogger | make *one* page | 23:08 |
apachelogger | put all the external resources there | 23:08 |
apachelogger | and then implement b and c :P | 23:09 |
* apachelogger gets grumpy from bad knowlede management | 23:09 | |
debfx | but that's only a short-term solution as launchpad won't pick up new strings | 23:09 |
yofel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/ *is* one page | 23:09 |
debfx | yofel: thanks | 23:09 |
debfx | apachelogger: yes but I need to rewrite parts of the script first | 23:11 |
apachelogger | debfx: why? | 23:11 |
debfx | how does one get access to ubuntuwire anyway? | 23:11 |
apachelogger | can do that as well in a branch :) | 23:11 |
apachelogger | debfx: talk to the ubuntuwire people I think there is #ubuntuwire | 23:12 |
yofel | as for my page, it's implemented in bash + cron job, now sure how you get *that* on ubuntuwire | 23:12 |
debfx | the code is too embarrassing :P | 23:12 |
yofel | at least there's probably a better way to implement it | 23:12 |
yofel | more like I hope there definitely is one ^^ | 23:12 |
apachelogger | debfx: cant be worse than what DarkwingDuck came up with yesterday :P | 23:13 |
apachelogger | yofel: surely there is a way | 23:14 |
debfx | yofel: have you tested the kdirwatch patch in kde4libs? | 23:29 |
yofel | not specifically, wasn't on my PC the last 2 days until now | 23:29 |
DarkwingDuck | LOL | 23:35 |
DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: at least I fixed it :P:P | 23:36 |
DarkwingDuck | debfx: http://paste.kde.org/121525/ | 23:36 |
yofel | debfx: I think that one affects only distros that have 3.0 kernels, we should be fine with 3.0.0. Scott said it wouldn't hurt to have it though | 23:37 |
yofel | (unless I missed something) | 23:37 |
debfx | yofel: yeah I agree it would be nice to get it in | 23:38 |
debfx | someone needs to test it though | 23:39 |
debfx | at least that it still works fine with the oneiric kernel | 23:39 |
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