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apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/YtM9Z.png <-- famous00:00
claydohpretty:)00:08
claydohI think I will toss a coin to pick my phone00:08
apacheloggerclaydoh: http://www.sylloge.com/5k/entries/162/00:09
apacheloggermuch bettar00:09
claydohnaw it has to be low-tech00:09
claydohplus i have to decide which is yes and which is no :)00:10
apacheloggerjust go "should I buy the phone x oh mighty universial decison maker?"00:10
claydohbattery life and much better screen vs  slightly better camera/flash and nicer feel to the case00:11
apacheloggerbattery life and screen tops everything IMHO00:12
claydohI think better screen and battery win, as I am outdoors a lot00:12
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lunarcloudfor anyone who was looking at and/or editing the google doc associated with the upcoming release announcement, a google docs bug forced me to backup and recreate the document (i know how not to reproduce). So it's now located: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nQobLCdkgk5QZK3qgIIJ3X1J_rZXeZT5ZsYAsCXL8IU/edit?hl=en_US with full edit access.01:09
DarkwingDuckI prolly ought to come up with a session or two01:18
DarkwingDuckjjesse_: ping01:42
DarkwingDuckvalorie: ping01:42
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* DarkwingDuck sighs03:10
claydohDarkwingDuck: why so sad?03:23
DarkwingDuckclaydoh: People playing with the docs have not been filling out the work items.03:23
DarkwingDuckSo, I have to review almost all of them instead of what hasn't been done.03:24
DarkwingDuckCan someone bzr branch lp:kubuntu-docs and tell me the active revision?03:25
tsimpsonDarkwingDuck: wouldn't "bzr revno lp:kubuntu-docs" tell you that?04:05
DarkwingDuckI got my issues worked out.04:05
valorieDarkwingDuck: pong04:34
valoriesorry, I had guests04:34
valorieand freenode kicked me off anyway04:34
DarkwingDuckvalorie: awesome. I answered my own questions.04:41
DarkwingDuck:D04:41
DarkwingDuckvalorie: You're not going to be in Orlando? :(04:41
valorieI forgot to apply04:41
valorie:(04:41
valoriethought I had a few more days04:42
valoriebut I didn't04:42
DarkwingDuck:( bugger04:42
DarkwingDuckOkay, I'm going to be up for a while.04:42
DarkwingDuckI have to figure out what all jjesse did on the docs.04:42
valorieI'm getting back to work on them in a sec04:42
valoriedownloaded the checking thingie, and have been looking at the docs04:43
valorieI've found one broken image link04:43
valoriedunno what to do about it though04:43
valorieoops04:44
valorie  /kubuntu/docs/audio/C/burning.html - no first image04:44
DarkwingDuckvalorie: did you finish Audio, bugs, CLI, Contact, contribute and basics?04:49
DarkwingDuckvalorie: ^^04:52
valorieyes, but I just found a problem in bugs04:55
valoriewhich I will fix right now04:55
DarkwingDuckOkay cool.04:55
valorieI got errors again last night04:55
valorieare they already pushed?04:55
DarkwingDuckYes04:55
valorieit doesn't like me uploading more than one file, i guess04:56
DarkwingDuckThis is what I've been complaining about people not updating https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-documentation-review04:56
valorieshould I have different names for each thing or something?04:56
DarkwingDuckI got it updated though04:56
valorieI updated that every time though!04:56
valoriemaybe it didn't take my input?04:56
valorieit looked like it did......04:56
valorieshi*, there are a lot of TODOs04:57
valorie;(04:57
DarkwingDuckYeah, you have to click the green checkmark when you are finished.04:57
DarkwingDuckYeah, I brewed a fresh pot.04:57
DarkwingDuckBy tomorrow I'll update the POT files and build04:58
DarkwingDuckTHey hand off to translations.04:58
DarkwingDucks/THey/then/04:58
kubotuDarkwingDuck meant: "then hand off to translations."04:58
micahgcan someone tell me what type of warning they get in konqueror with this website: https://www.aivd.nl05:01
DarkwingDuckmicahg: give me a sec05:05
DarkwingDuckmicahg: http://imm.io/9cAa05:07
micahg:(, that's what I want to see05:07
DarkwingDuckSorry05:08
micahghmm, maybe it's just a 4.6/4.7 difference05:08
micahgI get that in maverick now05:08
micahgDarkwingDuck: thanks for the help05:09
faboScottK: I have the sslv2 issue in my todo. I think there's a better way to resolve the issue05:09
DarkwingDuckmicahg: I'm getting the error in Firefox as well. I can just ignore it in FF05:09
micahgDarkwingDuck: right, in QT, it's a straight blacklist, in Firefox the blacklist was conditional on when the cert was issued whether or not it could be ignored05:10
DarkwingDuckRighto05:11
ScottKfabo: OK.  We're getting very close to the end here, so any suggestions you have I'd greatly appreciate.  We probably only have about two or three more shots to upload Qt before release.05:11
DarkwingDuckScottK: YOu are not going to be able to make it to Orlando, correct?05:13
ScottKIt's very unlikely at this point.05:13
DarkwingDuck:(05:19
DarkwingDuckvery sad05:19
* micahg is saddened by that as well, who else am I going to stay up to 4 in the morning talking to :)05:22
DarkwingDuckI'll be there :P05:23
micahgplease say hi :)05:23
DarkwingDuckOh I will... We need to schedule a kubuntu picture meeting time.05:27
valorieI would say that I'll fly on my own dime, but it's RIGHT after the doc camp and mentor summit05:27
valorieso bad timing, even if I was sponsored05:27
valorieDarkwingDuck: I can no longer edit https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-documentation-review05:35
valorieis it locked, or what?05:35
valorieam gonna work on desktop05:38
DarkwingDuckvalorie: It shouldn't be... are you logged into LP?05:39
valorieyes05:39
DarkwingDuckstrange...05:39
valorieperhaps i should log out and in again?05:39
valorieI just requested merge for bugs05:39
DarkwingDuckIt should let you edit under the "Whiteboard" section05:39
valorieagain05:39
DarkwingDuckURL for the merge request?05:40
valorieoh, now it's letting me05:40
valoriehttps://code.launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits/+merge/7547805:40
DarkwingDuckvalorie: revision 23105:46
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=231&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 231 | Coolo: removed the removed gif files05:46
DarkwingDuckubottu: you suck at life05:47
ubottuDarkwingDuck: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:47
DarkwingDuckubottu: I know I know.05:47
ubottuDarkwingDuck: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:47
DarkwingDuckAnyone in here actually used Krita?05:55
DarkwingDuckLike, is it stable enough to include in documentation?05:55
DarkwingDuckWTF?05:56
DarkwingDuckKrita requires KOffice?05:56
ScottKIt's part of koffice.05:57
DarkwingDuckInteresting.05:58
DarkwingDuckI had forgotten that.05:58
DarkwingDuckHow stable is it?05:58
shadeslayerhey guys, morning06:00
shadeslayerhey valorie06:00
DarkwingDuckMorning06:03
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: You ever used Krita?06:03
shadeslayernope06:03
valoriehi shadeslayer06:14
valorieI saw it demoed at DS06:14
valorielooked pretty damn cool06:15
valorieKrita is a part of Calligra, as I recall06:15
valorieKDE should be providing the documentation06:15
shadeslayervalorie: Google won't allow me to stay for the Mentor Summit, carols said it was a mentors only event :'(06:16
valorieright, mentors and admins06:17
shadeslayeryeah 06:17
valoriebut you'll be there for doc camp, right?06:17
shadeslayeryep06:17
shadeslayerif i get the visa :P06:17
valoriecool06:17
valorieI'm looking forward to both06:17
shadeslayer:D06:18
valoriebut I'll bet it will be exhausting too06:18
shadeslayerjust have to figure out accomodation for the 22nd now06:18
valorieso I'm sort of glad that I'm not going to orlando06:18
shadeslayerhaha 06:18
valoriebut oh, I want to be there anyway06:18
valoriei just wish there was more time between06:18
valorieone week between CLS/OSCON and flying to Berlin was NOT enough06:19
shadeslayervalorie: i found some awesome flights this time, they take only 18 hours06:19
valorieheh06:19
valorie25 hours to Berlin06:19
valoriesec06:19
shadeslayermaybe i should borrow apachelogger's spaceship this time06:20
DarkwingDuckvalorie: Doc Camp?06:22
valorieyes, the week before the Mentor's Summit06:23
valorieGSoC spinoff, I guess06:23
valorieit's the first time they've done it06:23
nigelbshadeslayer: you took 25 hours to berlin?06:24
valorieI'm in the same team as shadeslayer - we'll be working on documenting how to get involved in KDE06:24
jussishadeslayer: spaceships are for people from the past, we need a teleporter06:24
valorieSeattle is a looooong ways from Berlin06:24
* micahg would be happy with a shuttlecraft06:24
valorieI did have a two hour or so layover in New Jersey06:24
valoriethere is no more KDE Menu editor, am I correct?06:26
valoriebecause the Kickoff is now just a plasma widget, right?06:26
shadeslayernigelb: eh no, that would be valorie :P06:27
valorieoops, no06:27
nigelbYOu guys have no imagination. Or forgot Star Trek.06:27
nigelbI just want my own personal transporter :P06:27
shadeslayerheh06:28
shadeslayerspaceships are more cooler06:28
nigelbbut slower06:29
shadeslayerso? 06:29
shadeslayermuch more fun tho :P06:29
nigelbinstant gratification is more win :P06:29
shadeslayerand if i understand teleportation correctly, the actual you is lost and a clone is received at the other end :P06:30
nigelbDon't get philosphical with technology :P06:30
shadeslayerhahaha06:31
DarkwingDuckUggh06:33
jussioh yay for fun. all the things that are suposed to slide out from the panel slide from the top... fixes plskthxbai06:34
tsimpsonjussi: learn C++, then Qt, then KDE, kthxbye!06:36
tsimpsonand Python while you're at it :)06:36
DarkwingDuckYay!06:37
DarkwingDuckOnly 3 more docs06:37
jussitsimpson: AWW, dont be mean :(06:38
tsimpsonactually, learn C++, then Python. it's a lot easer once you know C++ and you won't fall into bad practices from learning an interpreted language first06:44
shadeslayer^^ true that06:44
valorieputting up desktop, DarkwingDuck06:44
shadeslayertsimpson: i usually prototype my classes in python and then convert it into C++ 06:45
valoriehttps://code.launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits/+merge/7548506:45
shadeslayeruhm06:46
valoriegive me a hint as to what you'd like me to work on next06:46
shadeslayervalorie: i see diff markers06:47
shadeslayer+>>>>>>> MERGE-SOURCE06:47
valoriewhat do you mean?06:47
DarkwingDuckvalorie: Yeah...06:47
DarkwingDuckToss that out and review all the docs. I went through and made a bunch of changes.06:47
DarkwingDuckLook for three keys.06:48
DarkwingDuckany spelling error. Any ref to KpackageKit and any ref to OpenOffice06:48
valoriewhat?06:49
valoriethat was an hour of work06:49
valoriebleah06:49
DarkwingDuck:/06:49
DarkwingDuckI made those changes :P:P06:49
DarkwingDuckmake sure you update your branch06:49
valorieI did06:49
valorieI've been following your doc guide religiously06:50
DarkwingDuckrevision 336?06:50
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=336&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 336 | MRJ: Added new ported xlock screensavers from Emanuel Pirker <epirker@edu.uni-klu.ac.at>06:50
DarkwingDuckubottu: I hate you06:50
ubottuDarkwingDuck: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:50
valorieI'm not sure what you are asking06:50
DarkwingDuckShould have marked it on the Work Items06:50
valorieI did06:50
valorieand saved that06:51
DarkwingDuckIt wasn't...06:51
valorie:(06:51
valorieoh, well06:51
valorieok, I'll go back to the review thing06:51
DarkwingDuck:)06:51
DarkwingDuckI'm just looking for ref to KPackageKit and OpenOffice06:51
DarkwingDuckThose need to be shot.06:51
DarkwingDuckReplaced with Muon and LibreOffice06:51
valorieI wanted it correct, and I made it correct06:52
DarkwingDuckand if it's &menukpackagekit; it needs to be changed to &menusysmuon;06:52
* DarkwingDuck hugs valorie 06:52
DarkwingDuckI'm sorry :(06:52
* valorie goes and makes a gin and tonic06:56
* DarkwingDuck yells at nixternal07:03
DarkwingDuckI am so going to update these damn scripes07:19
DarkwingDucks/scripes/scripts/07:19
kubotuDarkwingDuck meant: "I am so going to update these damn scripts"07:19
DarkwingDuckvalorie: hows it coming?07:23
valoriedelicious!07:24
DarkwingDuck:D07:24
DarkwingDuckUp for a lst minute review?07:25
DarkwingDucks/lst/last07:25
valoriesure07:25
DarkwingDuckLike I said... Just look through for refs to KPackageKit and OpenOffice07:26
valorietell me *exactly* what you want me to do07:26
DarkwingDuck:D07:26
DarkwingDuckI'm going to be re-writing these damn scripts07:26
valoriewhich ones?07:26
DarkwingDuckThe validation and pot generation scripts07:28
DarkwingDuckI'm going to make it simplier to validate and make pot files.07:29
valoriecool07:30
valorieanyway, tell me exactly what to do and I'll do it07:30
valorieno more wasted work07:31
DarkwingDuckYou use Kate?07:31
valorieyes07:32
DarkwingDuckif you can go into each xml file in the branch, click Ctrl+F and search each document for refrences to both OpenOffice and KpakcageKit07:33
DarkwingDuckThey should be changed to LibreOffice and Muon respectivly.07:34
DarkwingDuckor how ever you spell it.07:34
valorieok07:34
valorie<sect1 id="bluefish-editor">07:41
valorie<title>Bluefish Editor - Web Development Editor</title>07:41
valorie<para>Home page:  07:41
valorie<ulink url="http://bluefish.openoffice.nl"> http://bluefish.openoffice.nl </ulink>07:41
valoriein Development.xml07:41
valoriedunno what that is07:41
valorieand I didn't change it07:42
valoriefixing games.xml atm07:44
DarkwingDuckthat for bluefish, you can leave that one.07:44
valoriedid07:44
valoriepushed games07:48
valorieand there is an error07:50
valoriedunno why the last one is still active -- you refused it07:50
DarkwingDuck.......... hmmmz07:51
valorieand launchpad showed that07:53
DarkwingDuckYou pulled first right?07:54
valoriepulled?07:54
valorieupdate, status, commit, then push07:54
valorieI can paste you my changes if that helps07:57
valoriehttp://paste.kde.org/12149507:59
DarkwingDuckThanks, gimme a sec08:03
DarkwingDuckThat's in games?08:04
valorieyes08:04
valoriesearch for kpackage and you'll find the paragraph08:04
DarkwingDuckOkay, Thanks. :D08:04
bambeemorning08:10
DarkwingDuckMorning :)08:12
valoriegraphics - fixing08:13
valoriepushing08:15
valories l o w Launchpad08:17
valorieoh good grief08:19
valorieoops, I hadn't entered my passphrase08:21
valorielawd08:21
valorieanother error08:22
valorieThere is already a branch merge proposal registered for branch lp:~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits to land on lp:kubuntu-docs that is still active.08:22
valorieno idea why08:22
DarkwingDuckhang on.08:24
DarkwingDuckOkay, give it a couple minutes then try again.08:24
DarkwingDuckvalorie: give it another shot.08:25
valorieproposed successfully08:26
DarkwingDuckXD08:26
valoriefixing index.xml08:28
DarkwingDuckhang on...08:28
DarkwingDuckI gotta figure out why it is showing the diff markup08:28
valorieok08:29
DarkwingDuckBecause, that will mess everything up. :(08:30
DarkwingDuckOn a brighter note... 08:31
DarkwingDuckthere are really cool automated scripts for validation now.08:32
DarkwingDuckHey Riddell 08:35
valorieready to push when you're ready08:35
DarkwingDucktry it again.l08:36
valoriethe previous one?08:38
valoriedone08:39
Riddellhi DarkwingDuck08:39
valoriehey Riddell08:39
valorieare you coming to UDS?08:39
Riddellvalorie: I will if you will :)08:40
valorieargh!08:40
valorieI'd have to pay my own way08:40
valorieand i would, if it wasn't so darn close to the doc camp and mentor summit08:40
valoriegod though, a few days on the river with darby......08:41
DarkwingDuckRiddell: can you look at this and figure out why it's showing the diff markup for valorie? https://code.launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits/+merge/7549608:41
valoriethat's heaven08:41
RiddellDarkwingDuck: looks like it needs to pull from trunk and fix the conflicts08:42
DarkwingDuckvalorie: ^^^08:42
DarkwingDuckRiddell: I'm *finally* fixing the pot scripts for the docs08:43
Riddellyay08:43
valoriebut I do an update, status, commit, then push08:43
valorieevery time08:43
valorieas the Documentation guide recommends08:44
DarkwingDuckGARG08:44
valoriedownloaded from trunk only a week or so ago08:44
DarkwingDuckupdate == pull08:44
valorieand have done the update every time08:45
* DarkwingDuck goes to fix his damn guide08:45
valorieI've been doing it wrong?08:45
valoriegeeeeez08:45
debfxRiddell: how can I tell bzr commit to open an editor instead of guessing the commit message from the changelog?08:47
RiddellBZR_DISABLE_PLUGINS=builddeb bzr commmit08:47
Riddelldebfx: ^^08:48
debfxRiddell: thanks08:51
* debfx creates an alias08:52
DarkwingDuckvalorie is going to give up on me.09:03
bambeeapachelogger: did you import your fixes btw ? (for kde-workspace) I can do it, if you want...09:03
valorieI'll at least push the last changes I made09:04
valorieif that will help09:04
valorieI do need to sleep eventually09:04
DarkwingDuckLOL09:04
DarkwingDuckHow far did you get?09:04
valorieI have index.xml ready to push09:06
valorieif you want it09:06
DarkwingDuckAye09:07
valoriedo you have the last one yet, or what?09:07
valorieand how /when should I pull?09:07
valoriethe Documentation doc hasn't changed09:07
DarkwingDuckmerge away09:08
bulldog98_workDarkwingDuck: http://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/documentation09:11
valorieanother error09:12
valoriesame as before09:12
valoriethis sucks09:12
bulldog98_workDarkwingDuck: also http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Get_a_SVN_Account and mention apachelogger :)09:12
valoriethe entire index.xml is at http://paste.kde.org/121519/ if that is of use, DarkwingDuck09:18
valorieniters all09:18
valoriemanage-software will need fixing09:19
valoriebut I don't think I'm the person to do it09:19
DarkwingDuckI'll finish it. thanks for EVERYTHING valorie 09:20
valorieI'll check the rest09:26
valorieand report those which need changes09:26
DarkwingDuckvalorie: I've got it.09:29
DarkwingDuckI've made most of the changes.09:29
valoriecool09:30
shadeslayervalorie: whoa, it must probably be 3 AM for you09:30
valorie2:3009:30
valorieabout average for me09:30
shadeslayeroh .. alright, night :)09:31
valorievideo mentions kpackagekit09:31
valorieso I've checked them all09:32
jussiHrm, I have an idea - how about we provide a decent set of default headings and styles in libreoffice - not something that looks like it came out of the 90's... Is this possible? can I help define these? who do I need to contact to get this started? 09:33
debfxyofel_: what's the url of your bzr branch overview page?09:33
DarkwingDuckthanks valorie 09:34
DarkwingDuckYay!09:34
DarkwingDuckdocs updated09:34
DarkwingDucknow to test my new script for generating pot files.09:35
ejat:)09:37
DarkwingDuckYAY!09:38
DarkwingDuckIt's crude as all get out but, it works!09:38
DarkwingDuckls09:38
DarkwingDuckoops, wrong window09:38
DarkwingDuckanyone in here work with translations?09:42
DarkwingDuckRiddell: ping09:46
Riddellhi DarkwingDuck09:47
jussiDarkwingDuck: dpm is the translations man ;)09:48
DarkwingDuckhey Riddell, question about getting the docs to translation.09:48
DarkwingDuckI have updated the pot files.09:48
DarkwingDuckWhat else do I need to do to get them uploaded or whatever. :D09:48
Riddellhave the package uploaded to the ubuntu repository with the pot files updated09:49
Riddelltell the translators to translate it09:49
DarkwingDuckI need to build the package?09:50
Riddellsomeone does09:50
* DarkwingDuck mutters09:50
DarkwingDuckI guess now is a good time to learn to build packages...09:50
Riddellthen before the release get the .po files and turn them into docbook and upload that09:50
DarkwingDuckRighto09:50
DarkwingDuckhttp://paste.kde.org/121525/ my xml to pot script for our docs :D09:50
DarkwingDuckRiddell: does the bzr build-deb work? :P:P09:51
Riddellmaybe but it doesn't build source packages, that still done the same way09:51
Riddelldch -i  to add a changelog09:51
Riddelldebuild -S  to build source package09:52
DarkwingDuckI'll give this a shot and see how I do.09:53
Riddellmake sure you move the .bzr directory out the way before running debuild -S09:54
bulldog98_workwho is responsible for kubuntu.org? the links to Locos are not working. eg http://www.kubuntu.org/support/deutsch10:18
DarkwingDuckbulldog98_work: give me a moment and I'll look at it.10:19
* bulldog98_work hugs DarkwingDuck 10:19
bulldog98_workcan we get branding for http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-flavor-kubuntu.html ?10:20
bulldog98_worksome thing like http://status.kubuntu.org/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-flavor-kubuntu.html10:20
DarkwingDuckbulldog98_work: make a note of it for me at UDS.10:24
DarkwingDuckI'll work on that while I'm working on getting help.k.o10:24
apacheloggershadeslayer: seems I will definitely need a cpp ical parser10:24
apacheloggershadeslayer: in qml you cannot thread a qtobject10:24
apacheloggeronly javascripts10:24
bulldog98_workDarkwingDuck: I will not attend uds, and where can I I do notes like that?10:30
DarkwingDuckbulldog98_work: make a note at the bottom of this page. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-P10:34
shadeslayerapachelogger: heh :P10:36
shadeslayerwill have a go over the weekend10:36
apacheloggeralso I need to envision storage and sync at some point10:37
shadeslayeri'm pretty sure we can store with libical10:37
apacheloggeralso I had the awesome idea of making it a one stop info app for uds stuff ... a venue map could be added, travel documents could be added, travel information10:38
apacheloggermaybe even notes, so that all the uds stuff is in one place ^^10:38
apacheloggershadeslayer: and sync?10:38
shadeslayer^_^10:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: maybe syncevolution?10:39
apacheloggeron a phone?10:39
shadeslayersyncevolution is made for phones as well :P10:39
apacheloggerfor something as trivial as vevent?10:39
shadeslayervevent?10:39
apacheloggerevents in a cal10:39
shadeslayerah10:39
apacheloggerthe fatness of all the components is killing me10:39
shadeslayerheh :P10:40
* apachelogger is thinking about sync from remote ical to local storage10:40
shadeslayerkmustleave now10:41
shadeslayercya10:41
apacheloggero/10:41
DarkwingDuckwow, apachelogger is awake now?10:44
DarkwingDuckAnd I have not been to bed yet :/10:44
debfxis there anything else in kde-workspace that we need to fix?10:44
apacheloggerbambee: plz import the mighty patches10:45
debfxwhich patches?10:45
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: you should totally go to bed really10:45
apacheloggerdebfx: the foundations of rootonly kcm fix10:46
debfxI've already added them10:46
apacheloggerbambee: debfx has already added them10:46
bambeeoh great10:46
apacheloggerdebfx: uploaded too?10:46
debfxno, I'll upload it now10:47
apacheloggeryou are the awesomest10:47
debfxapachelogger: they replace the old kcm root path, right?10:47
debfx*patch10:47
apacheloggeryes10:47
debfxok10:47
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: Yeah, I should but, I needed to finish these docs.10:48
DarkwingDuckthe freeze is today.10:48
apacheloggeroh my10:48
DarkwingDuckI finished them.10:50
DarkwingDuckI built a bunch of new validation scripts10:50
DarkwingDuckI build a fixed pot script10:50
DarkwingDuckand now I'm trying to get this to build...10:51
DarkwingDuckHow the hell do I give the key for debuild?10:51
apachelogger-k10:51
DarkwingDuck-k key?10:51
apachelogger-k0x1243256 or -k"My Name"10:52
DarkwingDuckor just -k10:52
apacheloggerhm10:53
apacheloggerjon the taco polluted the userconfig pkg with debian-changes patches10:53
apacheloggereeew10:53
DarkwingDuckHmmz...10:54
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: what do I change to get the package to reflect 10.10 and not 10.04?10:57
apacheloggerwhat is the package? kubuntu-docs?10:58
DarkwingDuckYes10:58
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: in debian/changelog make sure your entry has the version 11.10ubuntu1 as version and oneiric in the field next to it10:59
apacheloggerkubuntu-docs (11.10ubuntu1) oneiric; urgency=low11:00
apacheloggerlike that11:00
DarkwingDuckawesome. Thanks.11:00
DarkwingDuckdch -i kubuntu-docs (11.10ubuntu1) oneiric; urgency=low ?11:01
DarkwingDuckSorry for the dumb question... learning11:01
apacheloggerdch -v 11.10ubuntu1 -D oneiric11:01
DarkwingDuckAHHHHH!11:02
apacheloggerif you do not define oneiric it shoudl default to UNRELEASED11:02
DarkwingDuckThanks11:02
apacheloggerwhich will prevent you from uploading, so you'd usually run it without the -D as UNRELEASED prevents you form "accidental" uploads ^^11:02
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: also mind that you should use SERIESubuntuREVISION as version, unlike what rich did11:03
apacheloggerthat way you can run dch -i after the first revision11:03
DarkwingDuckWill do. :D11:03
DarkwingDuckRight.11:03
apacheloggerand it will *correctly* increment11:03
apacheloggerwhereas with 11.04.1 it will increment to 11.04.1ubuntu111:03
DarkwingDuckYeah... that sucks11:04
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: This is my first time :D11:05
DarkwingDuckOkay, I have it built.11:05
DarkwingDuckwhere do I upload for translation?11:05
DarkwingDuckwhere/how11:05
apacheloggerI believe yo ujust need to uploaded11:05
apacheloggerdpm:  will know ^11:06
DarkwingDuckHow does that work?11:06
DarkwingDucklike, how do you upload? :)11:06
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: You'll love my xml to pot script :D http://paste.kde.org/121525/11:06
apacheloggeryou need a sponsor for the upload11:07
apacheloggeras you are not a dev you cannot upload yoruself11:07
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: Oo11:07
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: dude, like you could totally have made a 4 line loop out of that :O11:07
* apachelogger is scared away11:07
dpmapachelogger, DarkwingDuck, on the phone, let me come back to you in a minute11:07
DarkwingDuckdpm: awesome!11:08
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: That's what happens when you unleash me on scripts on zero sleep. :D11:08
DarkwingDucknixternals scripts were broken.11:08
apacheloggereven my qml from late in the night is better than that :P11:09
apacheloggerunreadable though11:09
DarkwingDuckLOL11:09
DarkwingDuckSo, how would you do it? :P:P11:09
apacheloggerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/689903/11:09
DarkwingDuckI'm NOT good at bash scripts at all11:09
DarkwingDuckXD11:09
apacheloggerso... that intially gets an array of ical events, then it creates an array with 7 entries (to contain the events per-day) then it iters over all those 7 entries and fills them with each an array (i.e. [[],[],[]...] is the models afterwards) at the same time it creates another array and fills it with 7 entries that contain the pages to display the vents per weekday11:12
apacheloggerthen it iters over all entires in the original array, and checks which day they belong to and pushes each into the appropriate sub-array 11:13
apacheloggerthen it sets the appropriate array of events as model on their pages and if the model is not empty it creates a button to access that page11:14
* apachelogger is so meta, he even meta described the meta code there11:14
DarkwingDuck:D11:16
* DarkwingDuck rubs eyes11:32
apacheloggerkubotu: order coffee for DarkwingDuck11:33
* kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to DarkwingDuck.11:33
DarkwingDuckThank you kubotu 11:33
DarkwingDuckAnyway, to upload to ubuntu... how does that work apachelogger?11:33
apacheloggeryou give a developer your source package11:34
apacheloggertell him to uplaod or else...11:34
DarkwingDuckwhat's your email addy apachelogger?11:34
DarkwingDuck:P:P11:34
* apachelogger is coding11:35
DarkwingDuckRiddell: ping XD11:35
Riddellhi DarkwingDuck11:36
DarkwingDuckRiddell: care to upload a package for me?11:37
Riddellsure11:37
DarkwingDuckjr@ubuntu?11:37
Riddelljriddell@ubuntu11:37
DarkwingDuckjust the tar.gz or do you need the .dsc too?11:38
jussihe needs your SOUL... bwahahaha... :P11:46
DarkwingDuckLOL11:47
DarkwingDuckWTF!?11:48
* DarkwingDuck sighs11:48
* DarkwingDuck kicks nixternal again11:48
RiddellDarkwingDuck: building locally to check it out12:00
DarkwingDuckRiddell: Sorry I didn't sned both of them the first time. :)12:01
DarkwingDuckLet me know how I did. :D12:01
DarkwingDuckMy first package12:01
DarkwingDuckLOL12:01
DarkwingDuckRiddell: did it build?12:07
* jussi high 5's DarkwingDuck12:21
DarkwingDuckJusting waiting for it to be uploaded, email the translators and then I can go to bed.12:21
DarkwingDuck:D12:21
DarkwingDuckthen I have till they are done to finish the script for turning pot files into xml files again.12:22
RiddellDarkwingDuck: yes12:28
DarkwingDuckRiddell: Cool!12:28
DarkwingDuckjjesse: docs are done.12:31
DarkwingDuckjjesse: I built it and just waiting for them to get uploaded.12:31
RiddellDarkwingDuck: uploaded, congratulations on your elite packaging skills12:32
DarkwingDuckRiddell: yeah, not quite elite yet... but, it's a start :)12:35
DarkwingDuckYay! the version is finally right. thanks apachelogger12:39
DarkwingDuckhttps://launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs/+packages if you don't know what I'm talking about :D12:40
DarkwingDuckOkay, sleepy time. Thanks Riddell and I'll only bug you one more time for an upload this series :D12:41
Riddellyou haven't been to sleep?  give your head on the pillow man12:42
DarkwingDuckRiddell: Today is the Doc freeze. Needed to finish this up.12:43
DarkwingDuckIt's only 5:45a12:43
Riddellyour dedication to the cause is appreciated :)12:43
DarkwingDuckI need to write better scripts. :)12:44
DarkwingDuckBut, that can wait.12:44
DarkwingDuckdpm: package uploaded ready for translation mate.12:44
DarkwingDuckaaaaaand on that note, I'm off to bed. Night guys12:45
dpmDarkwingDuck, thanks12:45
DarkwingDuckdpm: actually on time for once :D12:45
dpmexcellent :)12:45
DarkwingDuckRiddell, apachelogger thank you both for your help12:46
dpmDarkwingDuck, if you've got the chance tomorrow, it'd also be great if you could have a quick look at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/kubuntu-docs and tell us if there is any obsolete template we should disable from there12:48
bulldog98_workdpm: until when do I have to translate it to get it included?12:48
dpmbulldog98_work, until the NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline milestone on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule12:49
bulldog98_workso I havetime until next week12:49
dpmthat's rather in 2 weeks time12:50
DarkwingDuckdpm: welcome-desktop, netbook, about-desktop, about-kubuntu are obsolete and about has been added.12:50
* bulldog98_work has time next week and needs to get accepted as German translator to approve that12:51
dpmDarkwingDuck, disabled, thanks.12:53
DarkwingDuckdpm: anything else you need from me?12:53
dpmDarkwingDuck, that's all I think. If you could just have a look from time to time on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/kubuntu-docs/+imports to see that the translations appear there and have been imported, that'd be great12:54
dpmjust to make sure they are imported fine12:54
DarkwingDuckdpm: Awesome. Will do. Thanks!12:54
dpmDarkwingDuck, no worries, thank _you_! :-)12:54
DarkwingDuck:D Now that I know what I'm doing fully, it'll be like this every cycle. :D12:54
dpmawesome :)12:55
apacheloggermaco: could you pretty please merge the commit for bug 74306213:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 743062 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-kde welcome page layout is suboptimal in German" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74306213:07
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: you are still not in bed? :O13:07
bambeeDarkwingDuck: what time is it at your home ?13:09
CIA-130[userconfig] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110915131042-65xq2rnoxorh5ggd * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)13:10
CIA-130Change x-kde-rootonly in the desktop file to x-kde-substitudeuid, former was13:10
CIA-130only supported by a patch in workspace which is now implemented upstream but13:10
apacheloggerbambee: whatever happend to your cpp rewrite?13:11
apacheloggeror was that someone else?13:11
bambeeapachelogger: It works but it's not usable yet (and not finish yet). Dude, I've too much things to do v_v (phonon, kdelibs, davros, kubuntu)... I will fork myself... I think...13:18
apacheloggersame here13:19
apacheloggerbambee: is the code on kdegit yet?13:19
* bambee has been forked13:19
davmor2if bambee has been forked is that not cloning?13:22
* bulldog98_work thinks bambee should save his brain contens in an other persion, so does not need to fork himself :P13:26
bulldog98_works/persion/person/13:26
kubotubulldog98_work meant: "thinks bambee should save his brain contens in an other person, so does not need to fork himself :P"13:26
apacheloggerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml2.mp414:13
bambeebulldog98_work: if I fork myself my brain contents won't be reduced, but cloned. My productivity will be improved and I will fix the bad code wrote by apachelogger  more efficiently :P14:39
bambeebulldog98_work: Shhh, he does not know it yet :P14:40
bulldog98_apachelogger: add kgethotnew stuff support and we can also use it for akademy or desktopsummit14:41
bulldog98_bambee: as log as it works and is bug free no prob (and feature complete)14:42
bulldog98_mgraesslin: hi the patch you posted to packagers is awesome :)14:45
bambeemgraesslin++14:45
bambee;)14:45
bulldog98_~karma mgraesslin14:45
kubotukarma for mgraesslin: 414:45
mgraesslinglad that distributions welcome it :-)14:46
bulldog98_mgraesslin++14:46
bulldog98_~karma mgraesslin14:46
kubotukarma for mgraesslin: 514:46
bulldog98_apachelogger: has someone uploaded the new kde-runtime yet?14:46
=== bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98
apacheloggernot that I know of14:49
apacheloggertake a look at the old lunchpad14:50
bambeeapachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/+junk/kcm-userconfig14:50
apacheloggerbulldog98: screw kghns, I will make a company for that14:50
bambeeactually it works in read-only14:50
apacheloggerConfMachine Inc.14:51
apacheloggerbambee: why no write?14:51
bambeenot finished yet and the code must be cleaned14:51
bambeeapachelogger: it's not finished yet14:51
* apachelogger is good at cleaning code14:51
bulldog98apachelogger: isn’t frank already making money with that?14:51
bulldog98ryanakca: is there also a forum theme in planning (work?) we, the germanspeaking Loco, would need a new one?14:53
apacheloggerbulldog98: not with providing apps and configs for conference organization14:56
bulldog98apachelogger: as long everything is based on kubuntu and you pay at least an other kubuntu member it’s ok :P14:57
apacheloggernope14:58
apacheloggerall android14:58
apacheloggerScottK: I am not getting any branding bug 37722014:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 377220 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "Brown splash for openoffice in Kubuntu" [Wishlist,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37722014:59
apachelogger:'(14:59
bulldog98apachelogger: we should think about switching to calligra15:00
bulldog98apachelogger: what about assinging that to libreoffice :)15:02
apacheloggerbulldog98: you are awesome, plz move to libreoffice ^^15:06
apacheloggerbulldog98: also I already told scott that we should kill koffice with fire15:06
ryanakcabulldog98: We've never handled forum themes on the grounds that there were no officially affiliated Kubuntu forums. Feel free to contribute one though :)15:53
bulldog98ryanakca: hm we need a theme for our new forum (we switch forum engine) hoped we could build upon something15:55
ryanakcabulldog98: You can base it off the new wiki theme, just a second, I'll get you the LP branch15:56
macoapachelogger: ok15:57
ryanakcabulldog98: lp:~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu-light-wiki-theme15:57
bulldog98ok thanks15:57
ryanakcabulldog98: Looks like http://wiki.ryanak.ca/kubuntu/LanguageSetup , I'm told our next drupal theme will be based off of it.15:57
* bulldog98 needs to get that done next week15:58
macoapachelogger: merged16:03
debfxScottK: do I need some kind of freeze exception to hide useless checkboxes in the polkit-kde dialog?16:06
apacheloggermaco: domo arigatou :)16:06
macoapachelogger: i didnt test it since i dont have a clue how to rebuild an iso so i hope it works :P16:08
macoor at least that it doesnt break anything16:08
apacheloggerit worked when I created it16:08
apacheloggerbtw IIRC you do not need to rebuild the ISO to test ubiquity16:09
apacheloggerthere is some way to do dry run testing16:09
apacheloggeror at least that is what I remember16:09
apacheloggermaybe I created my own dry run ^^16:09
macoscp all the pythons :P16:11
macoive tested python (not .ui) changes by just modifying them live16:12
macobut i dont think you can do that with .ui files16:12
apacheloggeractually you can, you just have to restart ubiquity16:16
apacheloggerIIRC the ubiquity python code compiles the UIs at runtime16:16
apachelogger(which BTW I find a very bad idea for speed in the final product)16:17
bulldog98debfx: as long as you don’t any new strings no16:21
apacheloggermgraesslin: do we need any patches ontop of 4.7 when using raster as default?16:24
apacheloggerdebfx: we should likely switch to raster at build time rather than env var?16:24
* mgraesslin doesn't know of any required patches16:24
apacheloggerkthx16:24
bulldog98apachelogger: could you reopen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/377220 for libreoffice16:27
ubottuUbuntu bug 377220 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Brown splash for openoffice in Kubuntu" [Wishlist,Won't fix]16:27
apacheloggerif rekonq wouldnt forget my cookies all the time16:29
ScottKdebfx: You do, but all you need is an ack from DarkwingDuck, valorie, or jjesse that it either doesn't affect kubuntu-docs or they're fine with redoing the screenshot.16:42
ScottKapachelogger: Someone needs to package and upload the calligra beta then.16:43
ScottK(if you want to kill koffice with fire)16:43
ScottKAnd we still have digikam unfixed too16:43
bulldog98ScottK: and we would need digikam 2.1.116:44
debfxapachelogger: yes, if we haven't received any bug reports about raster16:44
ScottKbulldog98: Yes, although I'd settle for 2.0.  We're still on 1.9, so something < 1.9.16:45
bulldog98ScottK: maybe we could provide that in experimental or something like that16:45
ScottKIf someone can give a sane package, I'll approve an FFe for it.16:46
bulldog98ScottK: yofel_ already package 2.0 (but it needs a MIR)16:47
ScottKWhat bug for the MIR?16:47
apacheloggerdebfx: I didn't see any16:47
apacheloggerScottK: how is raster on plasma netbook?16:47
ScottKapachelogger: Is that our default now?16:48
apacheloggerhas been active the entire cycle16:48
apacheloggervia xsession export16:48
apacheloggerScottK: echo $QT_GRAPHICS_SYSTEM16:48
apacheloggereh16:49
apacheloggerecho $QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM16:49
apacheloggershould say raster16:49
ScottKThen it's fine.16:49
ScottK(don't have the netbook handy at the moment)16:49
bulldog98ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32452316:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 324523 in opencv (Ubuntu) "Main inclusion request for OpenCV" [Medium,Won't fix]16:51
bulldog98and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/+bug/83419016:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 834190 in digikam (Ubuntu) "FFe: digkam 2.0.0" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:51
shadeslayerbulldog98: don't they have 2.1.1 out now?16:54
bulldog98shadeslayer: they have. You or yofel_ could package it, or me tomorrow16:55
* bulldog98 must had off till later16:55
shadeslayeryeah, i can give it a shot16:55
ScottKbulldog98: At this point getting the opencv MIR in is too late, so we need to figure out how to make digikam work without it.16:57
ScottKSo 2.0 or 2.1.1, either one needs that done.16:58
alleeScottK, shadeslayer: grep -R opencv/  shows that it's usedin libkface and removeredyes.  And running cmake without libcv*dev installed fails: OpenCV required but some headers or libs not found. 17:15
alleedigikam without libkface and redeyered is not worth much, isn't it?17:16
ScottKSo it'll take some surgery.17:16
ScottKWe've never had the redeye reduction support for this exact reason.17:16
ScottKThat's not new.17:16
alleeScottK: uh, so IMHO: digikam -> universe 17:25
ScottKallee: It's on the DVD and has been ~forever. Is there no way to work around it?17:25
debfxDarkwingDuck: could you please check if we have a screenshot of the polkit authorization dialog in the docs and comment on bug #851090?17:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 851090 in polkit-kde-1 (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Shows useless ceckboxes in auth dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85109017:35
ScottKdebfx and apachelogger: What do you think: Drop digikam from the DVD (Universe) so we can update to 2.1.1 and have redeye reduction?17:36
ScottKI guess it's better than staying with 1.9?17:37
debfxDarkwingDuck: the dialog is for example shown when you change the Login Screen settings17:37
debfxScottK: I wouldn't worry too much about dropping stuff from the DVD17:37
ScottKOK.17:38
ScottKUnless apachelogger objects soon, I'll take allee's advice.17:38
alleenot perfect but best for the users of digikam IMHO17:40
shadeslayeri think thats a acceptable solution17:41
apacheloggerScottK: off with its head!17:42
shadeslayerthe other solution would be to put it in a PPA, but i'd rather not do that17:42
ScottKOK.17:42
apacheloggerthe difference between having it on the DVD and only universe is not particularly big17:42
apacheloggermost users install from CD anyway17:42
apacheloggeronly kent beck knows why17:42
shadeslayeri don't see why we even have DVD builds :P17:43
alleedebfx: kauth dialog also show a popup(?) menu when more than one user is in the admin group.  But it neither remembers your last choice or  preselect you if you are in the admin group17:43
apacheloggerkauth is made out of UX fail17:44
alleeapachelogger: and there are heros like debfx, that fight against the failure17:45
shadeslayeri thought agateau fought against UX failure17:46
apacheloggerdoesnt everyone17:47
alleeshadeslayer: I wrote heros17:47
alleenote the s :)17:47
shadeslayerhehe :D17:47
apacheloggerand then there is qt quick which supports it thanks to broken elements17:47
sheytanapachelogger: got a cool idea of that thing you were asking lately ;)18:33
sheytaneven without any new  artwork needed18:34
apacheloggerdo you also have a cool idea for a UDS mobile app? ^^18:34
apacheloggerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml.mp418:34
apacheloggerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml2.mp418:34
sheytannot really, but i'm looking for someone to build libkfacebook for me (natty x64) :D18:36
* sheytan wonders why it's not default?!18:36
* apachelogger does not even know what it is18:36
sheytanapachelogger: akonadi resource for facebook calendar and contacts ;)18:36
apacheloggereek, more akonadi18:37
sheytanhttps://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/pim/akonadi-facebook/repository18:38
sheytanif someone would be so nice :D18:38
* apachelogger thinks bambee would be perfect for this18:40
sheytanwould be awesome :)18:40
sheytanbtw, this would be cool to like have in default kubuntu install ;D18:41
apacheloggersure, if it had sane UX18:42
sheytanapachelogger: UX?18:43
apacheloggerus0r experience18:44
sheytanapachelogger: what's not good in it?18:45
apacheloggerit does not have one :P18:45
sheytanit shows all the stuff in kontact, so what's the problem? :P18:46
apacheloggerexactly that is the problem18:46
sheytanwhere else it should show that data?18:47
apacheloggersomething more usable than kontact anyway18:48
sheytanah18:48
sheytanthat's the problem here18:48
sheytangive them time ;)18:48
sheytanit's pretty stable right now18:48
sheytani mean18:48
sheytanit doesn't crash at least for me18:48
sheytanand  i have it from kubuntu experimental repo18:48
ScottKmicahg: Is there any way to get a reload button to click on in FF?  Having it in the right-click menu is very inconvenient.  I'm exploring switching back to FF from Chromium and that's one of the two most annoying things (the other is the lack of a duplicate option when opening new tabs)19:06
apacheloggerhm19:08
apacheloggerwhy do we not have qtmobility 1.2?19:08
debfxScottK: the reload button is in the address bar19:10
ScottKdebfx: No.19:10
ScottKWait19:10
ScottKIt is.19:10
debfxit is when you have loaded a page19:10
ScottKI see it now.  Thanks.19:10
bambeeapachelogger: what ? what ?19:11
debfxyou can also drag'n' drop it to the left19:11
* bambee reads the log19:11
micahgScottK: it should be next to the URL bar on the right side19:13
* bambee adds akonadi-facebook to his todolist19:15
ScottKmicahg: It was (as debfx also told me).  It was just too small for me to notice.19:17
ScottKThanks.19:17
micahgScottK: I seem to have a problem with backscroll lately, so I miss these things :)19:17
ScottKNo problem.  Thanks for answering.19:19
micahgScottK: and I regret to inform you that I won't be able to get to kdesdk before the freeze, will try to get it over the weekend though19:27
ScottKmicahg: Thanks.19:27
DarkwingDuckmorning19:51
apacheloggeryoyo19:52
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: thanks for the help last night.19:52
apacheloggerI helped?19:52
DarkwingDuckWith the building.19:52
* apachelogger had the impression DarkwingDuck did all the work :)19:52
DarkwingDuckNow I know how to build the docs19:52
debfxScottK: is it ok to upload the no-change rebuilds even after the beta freeze?19:53
apacheloggernow you should write docs about that19:53
DarkwingDuckNow, to fix my hack-n-slash job on the scripts19:53
apachelogger^^19:53
DarkwingDuckand build a script for turning the pot files back into xml19:55
apacheloggerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml3.mp419:55
apacheloggermapsmapsmaps19:56
debfxDarkwingDuck: have you seen my message about the polkit-kde authorization dialog?19:57
DarkwingDuckdebfx: I just saw it. Checking now.19:58
debfxah, we still have an hour before beta freeze :)19:59
debfxthanks19:59
DarkwingDuckdebfx: No screenshots. :)20:02
DarkwingDuckYou're safe.20:02
DarkwingDuckdebfx: you still need me to comment on the bug?20:03
DarkwingDuckjjesse: morning mate. :)20:03
debfxDarkwingDuck: yeah that would be good20:03
debfxScottK: could you approve bug #85109020:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 851090 in polkit-kde-1 (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Shows useless ceckboxes in auth dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85109020:04
DarkwingDuckdebfx: commented.20:05
DarkwingDuckbambee: when you asked what time it was... it was 6a20:07
bambeeo.O20:07
DarkwingDuckAye. :)20:08
DarkwingDuckBut, the docs got to the translators at the freeze. :D20:08
* bambee thinks DarkwingDuck was probably drunk to work on documentation at 6a20:09
DarkwingDucklol20:09
DarkwingDuckbambee: You want to see how bad it was last night? Other then my announcement email called Oneiric 10.10 but, this was my script I slashed together. http://paste.kde.org/121525/20:10
ScottKdebfx: Done20:11
DarkwingDuckScottK: Don't kill me on that script. I'm re-writing it.20:12
* ScottK thinks DarkwingDuck overestimates how much he cares ...20:12
DarkwingDuckLOL20:13
DarkwingDuckScottK: Have you looked at it?20:13
debfxapachelogger: could you please sponsor https://launchpadlibrarian.net/80002997/polkit-kde-1_0.99.0-3ubuntu1.debdiff20:14
DarkwingDuck:P:P20:14
ScottKI've done worse.20:14
debfxsomehow the package vanished from our packageset20:14
apacheloggerdebfx: if you annoy someone about the packageset stuff20:14
ScottKAlthough I don't think I ever put the full FSF copyright/license header on worse.20:14
DarkwingDuckLOL 20:15
apacheloggerWTF ftw20:16
debfxapachelogger: I've already mailed cjwatson20:17
debfxbut he doesn't seem to be very responsive20:18
apacheloggermaybe he does it like apachelogger and doesnt read no mails not at all 20:18
bambeeDarkwingDuck: woo!20:20
ScottKWhoever is looking at Digikam should look at Debian Bug #62801920:24
ubottuDebian bug 628019 in digikam "new upstream version: 2.0" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/62801920:24
ScottKIt's also got updates for 2.1.120:24
* debfx starts upload the rebuilds semi-automatically and hopes our branches are up-to-date20:35
BarkingFishguys, quick question.  I'm in the process of setting up my build layout and the next things would be my gpg key and ssh key.  They already exist, but I don't have them on my pc - can I regenerate them or do I have to change them both?20:52
BarkingFishas in, can i recover the keys I already have from launchpad and incorporate them, or do I have to make new ones?20:52
apacheloggernew ones20:53
apacheloggerlaunchpad only has public keys20:53
apacheloggerotherwise the key concept would not work very much :)20:53
DarkwingDuckNow, why didn't I do this last night??????20:56
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: So, this is the new script... http://paste.kde.org/121987/20:57
apacheloggermuchos better20:57
DarkwingDuck:D20:58
BarkingFishdamn, thanks apachelogger 20:59
BarkingFishmeans I gotta re-sign the code of conduct and make a whole new set of keys.20:59
ScottKAnd make a backup copy of your private key and store it somewhere safe.21:00
* apachelogger has his keys implanted in his chest21:01
ScottKThat explains the curvature then.21:02
apacheloggeryep21:02
apacheloggerkubotu: order cocktail21:03
* kubotu tells apachelogger to choose either 'bloody mary', 'cuba libre', 'grüne witwe', 'long island iced tea', 'mai tai' or 'sex on the beach' (with apachelogger that is).21:04
apacheloggeruhhh21:04
debfxScottK: so can I continue to upload the rebuilds post beta freeze without the release team chasing me?21:04
apacheloggerkubotu: order mai tai21:04
* kubotu shakes 3cl white rum, 1.5 cl orange curaçao, 1.5 cl Orgeat syrup and 1 cl fresh lime juice, strains it into a glass and floats 3 cl dark rum onto the top, and slides the cocktail down the bar to apachelogger. Voilà, your Mai Tai :)21:04
ScottKdebfx: yes.  I'll just have to manually accept them.21:04
ScottKSooner the better though as it'll break image builds until when things are out of sync.21:04
BarkingFishapachelogger, That looks nice. I'll order one too :)21:05
BarkingFishkubotu, order cocktail21:05
* kubotu tells BarkingFish to choose either 'bloody mary', 'cuba libre', 'grüne witwe', 'long island iced tea', 'mai tai' or 'sex on the beach' (with apachelogger that is).21:05
BarkingFishkubotu: order grüne witwe21:05
* kubotu mixes 4 cl Blue Curaçao and 12 cl orange juice in a glass over ice, stirs it, garnishes with a organge juice and slides the cocktail down the bar to BarkingFish. Voilà, your Grüne Witwe (stupid german names :P)21:05
apacheloggerkubotu: stop mocking german words, you silly bot21:06
BarkingFishah, the green widow... 21:06
* BarkingFish prefers the green fairy :)21:06
* apachelogger waves fist21:07
apacheloggerfairies21:07
claydoh_Ok I have to see.....21:08
claydoh_kubotu, order sex on the beach21:08
* kubotu builds 4.0 cl Vodka, 2.0 cl Peach Schnapps, 4.0 cl Orange juice and 4.0 cl Cranberry juice in a highball glass filled with ice, garnishes it with orange slices and slides the cocktail together with apachelogger down the bar to claydoh_. Voilà, your Sex on the Beach (with apachelogger) :)21:08
=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh
apacheloggeroh great, work -.-21:08
claydohdo you pour it for me too?21:08
claydohgood thing i don't drink a lot21:09
BarkingFishapachelogger, the green fairy, a more affectionate name of absinthe, which can send you absolutely gaga if you drink enough :)21:10
BarkingFishcontains distilled wormwood oil, which causes blindness, madness and in some cases, death :)21:10
apacheloggermadness21:10
apacheloggerI think I had too many fairies in my life already21:10
BarkingFishyes, madness. I'm talking proper "cuckoo 42 banana haha horses are in the kettle" type madness21:11
ScottKdigikam is in Universe now, so someone can upload any time.21:12
claydohsomeone should feed some absynthe to Kmail2, it might sort it out21:12
apacheloggersomeone could write me a letter21:13
BarkingFishD. 21:13
* claydoh may actually move to tbird. I ahve used kmail almost exclusively for about 10 years now21:13
BarkingFishThere you go :P21:13
apacheloggersomeone could move to muttttttttt21:13
claydohhrmpf21:13
claydohactually kmal2 is simply too annoying, a drunk, mad kmail2 would so much less fun21:15
apacheloggerbooze parteee21:15
apacheloggerif the mountain will not come to mohamet, mohamet must go to the mountain21:16
apacheloggeror for those of us who already are on the way... since kmail2 behaves like a drunken squirrel, we should also do that21:16
apacheloggerleveling the playing field I suppose one calls this21:17
debfxcould someone else rebuild the kde packages that are not part of the kde sc?21:29
apacheloggerdebfx: rebuild for what?21:30
debfxapachelogger: desktop file translations21:30
apacheloggerwhich kde packages are there that are not in the great and mighty package set though?21:31
debfxapachelogger: it's not about upload permissions but distributing the workload21:34
apacheloggerah21:34
apacheloggerI am falling asleep21:34
apacheloggercould do tomorrow21:34
apacheloggerI suppose21:34
apacheloggerevening my schedule says21:34
BarkingFishYAY!21:38
BarkingFishI'm all done.  New gpg, new ssh key, code of conduct signed (again) and I'm back up and rolling.21:39
BarkingFishabout bl**dy time too :)21:39
BarkingFishI just have to see whether I have the new or the old version of pull-lp-source now :)21:40
BarkingFishoh crud. I have the old version :)21:40
ScottKdebfx: I just accepted a stack of your uploads.21:46
DarkwingDuckhmmz, anyone on the translation team in here?21:46
BarkingFishDarkwingDuck, I'm not, but I wish I was :)21:53
BarkingFishScottK, I'm back in business.  Everything is live again.22:02
ScottKCool.22:02
BarkingFishbazaar's done, pbuilder-dist is set up, got the new version of pull-*-source, the lot.22:03
ScottKI think bug triage is probably where it's at right now.22:03
BarkingFishyeah, and I'm not great at that as you saw the other day :)22:03
ScottKAre you subscribed to the ubuntu-devel and kubuntu-devel mail lists?22:03
ScottKI think you just got unlucky.22:03
BarkingFishno, not yet22:03
ScottKYou should do that.  ubuntu-devel-announce too.22:04
BarkingFishScottK, I can't read backtraces, stacks or anything like that. I fix 'em when I find 'em, I just don't know *how* to find the problems in the first place :)22:04
BarkingFishhow do I subscribe to the mailing lists?22:05
ScottKBarkingFish: OK.https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel22:05
ScottKSame pattern for the others.22:05
BarkingFishrighty ho22:06
ScottKhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-September/034086.html is where we are on boost1.42.  None of them build without changes, so feel free to have a stab at them.22:06
ScottK(check on LP and see if anyone has already fixed them before you spend time on it)22:06
BarkingFishall 3 subscribed, just waiting on the confirmation emails22:08
DarkwingDucksheytan: ping22:31
debfxapachelogger: how are we going to manage desktop file translations for projects we are upstream? :)23:01
debfxlike the firefox installer23:01
apacheloggerneed to stay23:01
apacheloggerat least for the time being23:01
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
BarkingFishright guys, i'm off to my pit for the night.  See ya this evening :)23:02
debfxyeah, but how?23:03
apacheloggerdebfx: too tired to think about that... but do we not have the desktop file key in there by default already?23:07
yofeldebfx: in case you didn't find it yet: http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/bzrstat/23:07
apacheloggerI think userconfig had it23:07
apacheloggerthen again I looked at that file more than 6 hours ago so I would not remember23:07
yofelshadeslayer, bulldog98: feel free to take a shot on digikam 2.1.1 - the packaging for 2.0.0 is in bzr and I won't do a thing before sunday23:08
apacheloggerdebfx, yofel: can we please put all them web stuff a) on a wiki page b) in a bzr branch c) transit them to ubuntuwire23:08
debfxfirefox installer doesn't have it but that could be easily changed23:08
yofelapachelogger: I did link it on the ninjas page overview23:08
apacheloggermake *one* page23:08
apacheloggerput all the external resources there23:08
apacheloggerand then implement b and c :P23:09
* apachelogger gets grumpy from bad knowlede management23:09
debfxbut that's only a short-term solution as launchpad won't pick up new strings23:09
yofelhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/ *is* one page23:09
debfxyofel: thanks23:09
debfxapachelogger: yes but I need to rewrite parts of the script first23:11
apacheloggerdebfx: why?23:11
debfxhow does one get access to ubuntuwire anyway?23:11
apacheloggercan do that as well in a branch :)23:11
apacheloggerdebfx: talk to the ubuntuwire people I think there is #ubuntuwire23:12
yofelas for my page, it's implemented in bash + cron job, now sure how you get *that* on ubuntuwire23:12
debfxthe code is too embarrassing :P 23:12
yofelat least there's probably a better way to implement it23:12
yofelmore like I hope there definitely is one ^^23:12
apacheloggerdebfx: cant be worse than what DarkwingDuck came up with yesterday :P23:13
apacheloggeryofel: surely there is a way23:14
debfxyofel: have you tested the kdirwatch patch in kde4libs?23:29
yofelnot specifically, wasn't on my PC the last 2 days until now23:29
DarkwingDuckLOL23:35
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: at least I fixed it :P:P23:36
DarkwingDuckdebfx: http://paste.kde.org/121525/23:36
yofeldebfx: I think that one affects only distros that have 3.0 kernels, we should be fine with 3.0.0. Scott said it wouldn't hurt to have it though23:37
yofel(unless I missed something)23:37
debfxyofel: yeah I agree it would be nice to get it in23:38
debfxsomeone needs to test it though23:39
debfxat least that it still works fine with the oneiric kernel23:39

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