[01:16] <kaushal> Hi
[01:16] <kaushal> is there a way to find speed of Tataphoton ppp0 logical link ?
[01:16] <kaushal> http://www.ibeast.com/content/tools/band-calc.asp
[11:40] <head_victim> sagaci: see your request? I bumped dpm for it ;)
[11:40] <sagaci> yeah, just got home and saw the thread, pretty good it's all going through
[11:40] <sagaci> *unlike our LoCo reapplication*
[11:41] <head_victim> Yeah, he asked me to +1 it and he's put it through. It may day a couple of days to come throuhg apparently though
[11:41] <sagaci> that's fine
[11:57] <head_victim> Oh and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/LocalizedImageContacts might be interesting
[12:34] <sagaci> looking forward to it all
[13:40] <sagaci> head_victim, fyi, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-translations-en-au-1204
[13:43] <head_victim> I wouldn't merge enAU to enUS, maybe enGB?
[13:43] <head_victim> Ohhh you mean the 2 enAU for launchpad and Ubuntu
[13:44] <head_victim> I think the best way to achieve that might be to make one a subteam of the other.
[13:44] <head_victim> I'd have a chat to dpm or someone else in -translators to see what other teams do
[13:45] <sagaci> yeah, I was going to go to the mailing list and/or -translators since it's not really something that should be light-switched
[13:47] <sagaci> but at least with a blueprint, we have history and discussions logged and properly ordered
[13:50] <head_victim> Yep
[13:51] <head_victim> It would be interesting to hear how other groups do it
[14:05] <head_victim> sagaci: I'm not 100% on how blueprints operate. If I were to add comments/brainstorming would I add it to the details or the whiteboard?
[14:08] <sagaci> just sent a feedback request, probably not exactly what you wanted... tbh I'm not 100% on them either but it gives a good place to set out/up the main features and targets, whilst the wiki (todo) is when the nuts and bolts, etc goes... if I'm not mistaken
[14:09] <head_victim> Hmm, milestone of 11.10beta2 might need adjustmennt
[14:09] <sagaci> yeah it will, that's just the latest at the moment
[14:10] <head_victim> What's the whiteboard part where it says "ubuntu-rc, kubuntu-alpha, cli-beta" ?
[14:11] <sagaci> I've got that as the status of each of the sections, ubuntu packages are rc or close to it, kubuntu is still work-in-progress and there's decent progresss on the cli tools
[14:11] <sagaci> so that'll be the progress as of beta2, roughly
[14:12] <sagaci> probably should be proposed as a separate blueprint but just wanted to register one to get the gist of how to "drive" them
[14:13] <head_victim> Ahhh that make sense
[14:14] <sagaci> I need to put a lot more thought into the wiki page for the nut and bolt spec but i'm just trying to get something out there
[14:14] <head_victim> Definitely a good idea.
[14:15] <sagaci> looks like I'll get a handful for the sydney release meet
[14:15] <head_victim> Nice, I wish I could subscribe to events so I get updates on them
[14:15] <sagaci> I mean there's 2 people I've never heard of on loco.u.c potentially coming. Not getting hopes up but hopefully we'll get 5 or something together
[14:15] <sagaci> good idea
[14:16] <head_victim> Always a good thing. Make sure you take photos 
[14:16] <sagaci> noted
[14:17] <head_victim> I'll be announcing the Brisbane one on Monday.
[14:17] <sagaci> yep, Brisbane has had parties for the last few, yeah?
[14:18] <head_victim> Yep, it's pretty much a case of it happens just the attendees vary.
[14:20] <sagaci> as I've noted on the Syd event page, wifi would be good but it's pretty much a byo unless the venue provides
[14:21] <head_victim> Well if you wanted to stream any of it let me know and I'll give you the login details for the ustream site.
[14:22] <sagaci> will keep in mind, would only be able to do audio, maybe push out a photo/g+ update
[14:22] <head_victim> Lan party at my house. I just bought http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190573992455?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[14:23] <head_victim> I wanted a cheap switch to do some playing with on a separate network to the main one. That was the cheapest rackmount ebay had to offer :D
[14:24] <sagaci> 48-port :/
[14:24] <head_victim> Yeah, I wanted a rackmount one and that was the cheapest that came up under the search. I'm picking it up tomorrow.
[14:25] <sagaci> 18 bucks not too bad
[14:25] <head_victim> So basically I have have 100 wired devices in my house all connected now. Multitudes more wirelessly.
[14:25] <head_victim> can have*
[14:26] <sagaci> how many wired devices do you have? <10?
[14:26] <head_victim> Yeah about that
[14:27] <head_victim> I couldn't find anything cheaper :/
[14:36] <sagaci> can you just add things to the blueprint via the whiteboard yet?
[14:37] <head_victim> Added, see if that's what you mean
[14:37] <sagaci> yeppers
[14:39] <sagaci> might be an idea to add short-form date along with the message
[14:39] <sagaci> just looking at other blueprints
[14:39] <head_victim> Yeah I was just looking at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-cd-localization
[14:40] <sagaci> because you don't seem to get an email when someone adds something which clears the noise but is good to know when the suggestion was made
[14:40] <head_victim> You aren't subscribed to it
[14:40] <head_victim> If you sub you get all the updates ;)
[14:41] <sagaci> assumed I'd be subscribed to it when I made the team :/
[14:41] <sagaci> err, blueprint
[14:42] <head_victim> Apparently not, I had to sub to it despite being listed as the approver
[14:56] <sagaci> anyway, I'm off for the night. Have to put more thought/effort into this. Ciao