[02:27] <thingy> @_@
[02:32] <thingy> Can anyone help me?
[02:32] <holstein> thingy: possibly
[02:33] <holstein> thingy: give the topic a look, and have at it :)
[02:34] <thingy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1561124
[02:34] <thingy> http://computersight.com/operating-systems/linux/ubuntu-11-04-how-to-install-jes-jython/
[02:34] <holstein> are you william?
[02:34] <thingy> I don't know how to change permissions of certain folders
[02:34] <thingy> No...
[02:34] <holstein> thingy: whats the problem?
[02:35] <holstein> sudo chown?
[02:35] <holstein> !chown | thingy
[02:35] <ubot2> thingy: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[02:35] <thingy> I'm trying to install JES for my class and am having trouble properly installing java on ubuntu
[02:36] <thingy> ./JES.sh isn't working \=
[02:37] <holstein> whats the error?
[02:37] <thingy> Okay I'll read through the permissions first and try again
[02:37] <thingy> Thanks ubot2
[02:37] <holstein> ubot2:
[02:37] <holstein> ubot2 is just a bot by the way
[02:37] <ubot2> holstein: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:37] <holstein> will this work?
[02:37] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jython
[02:38] <holstein> gone...
[02:38] <Unit193> Didn't like you it seems
[02:39] <holstein> didnt like ubot2 one bit ;p
[10:03] <ApOgEE> hi sangelion
[10:03] <ApOgEE> is it working?
[10:03] <sangelion> hi apogee..
[10:04] <sangelion> this is our local irc or not?
[10:04] <ApOgEE> nope... this is global
[10:04] <ApOgEE> for local support head to #ubuntu-my
[10:05] <sangelion> owh.. :D this room support what?
[10:05] <sangelion> also support c programming?
[10:05] <ApOgEE> sangelion: what is your problem with C ?
[10:06] <ApOgEE> I'll try my best to answer it
[10:07] <sangelion> right now don't have.. but later will have.. :D
[10:07] <ApOgEE> lol
[10:08] <ApOgEE> no problem, just come here and ask your question
[10:08] <ApOgEE> you don't have to ask permission to ask question
[10:08] <ApOgEE> ;)
[10:09] <sangelion> thank you ApogEE :D..
[10:18] <M0hi> ApOgEE: I have an issue with C in java codes. can you help me out? :P
[10:19] <ApOgEE> M0hi: yes, what is the problem?
[10:20] <M0hi> lemme ask in -team ;)
[10:25] <_2B_> Hi all. Synaptic Packet Manager window refocus on the foreground when it is finishing installing. That disturbes my workflow. Can I force Synaptic to stay in the background ?
[10:32] <M0hi> _2B_: Close the dialog box after intallation checkbox ?
[10:33] <M0hi> _2B_: "Close the dialog box after intallation"- checkbox. that will be there at each installation progress screen I believe
[10:33]  * M0hi didn't use synaptic for about 2 years though
[10:53] <_2B_> M0hi: Sorry for my late reply. That5 dialogbox is just for automatically closing the last dialog. What I mean is the window that pops up to tell me that the changes will be applied. It all close automatically but first takes focus above my working window ?
[11:18] <M0hi> _2B_: Sorry I dont know about that clearly. cant help it with office machine :[
[11:23] <_2B_> M0hi: NP, thanks for trying to help & have a good day.
[11:25] <M0hi> thanks _2B_. Hope your issue will get solved. Try asking in #ubuntu where there is more audience for your question
[11:26] <_2B_> I did & wait a little for another try with (hopefully) a better formulated question.
[11:26] <M0hi> okies
[11:28] <_2B_>  :)
[12:38] <_2B_> How can I look if my installed network-driver is the best or if there's a better driver ? I'm a horrible network-noob !
[12:39] <holstein> _2B_: if you are new to it, i say... if it aint broke, dont mess with it
[12:40] <Brutus-> _2B_, was it installed automagically?
[12:40] <_2B_> Yes
[12:40] <Brutus-> _2B_, i think it is the best, unless there is a propetary driver
[12:40] <holstein> yeah, and thats arguably better
[12:41] <_2B_> But I suspect/hope that I can improve my unstable WLAN by finding the driver that is special made for this 'chip ?'
[12:41] <holstein> like with certain broadcom hardware, you get different levels of compromise depending on what driver you use
[12:41] <Brutus-> If the driver is installed then is ok for your hardware
[12:41] <holstein> _2B_: you can always try the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[12:42] <Brutus-> you can see if there is a propetary driver in Systems Settings > Additional Drivers
[12:42] <_2B_> holstein: You mean just try changing the driver & watch the result ? I can do that (trail & error)
[12:43] <_2B_> Brutus-: Its empty
[12:43] <holstein> _2B_: you can run lspci, get the line for your hardware and google
[12:43] <holstein> see if there are any bugs reported or whatever
[12:43] <_2B_> holstein: Right, that how I wil continue. Thanks
[12:43] <holstein> other than that, yeah... its trail and error... unless you find someone with your exact hardware case
[12:44] <holstein> trial*
[12:44] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:45] <Brutus-> _2B_, there is another option. You can watch what is the vendor and the id of your board. Then search driver for it
[12:45] <holstein> anyways... good luck _2B_
[12:45] <_2B_> Thanks holstein.
[12:46] <_2B_> Brutus-: Wich command can I use (like lspci) to see my motherboard
[12:47] <Brutus-> _2B_, sudo lshw -html > hw
[12:47] <Brutus-> the look hw
[12:47] <_2B_> ?
[12:48] <Brutus-> _2B_, write the command then the result is in hw file
[12:49] <Brutus-> placed into the dir where you are
[12:49] <Brutus-> sorry for my bad english
[12:49] <Brutus-> :P
[12:49] <_2B_> Okay, I understand that
[12:49] <_2B_> np
[12:50] <_2B_> & thank you again for the kind help. Now I have something to read & do. Good luck. 8-)
[12:50] <Brutus-> :)
[16:59] <sangelion> hi all.. what is ./configure --prefix and what for?? what is the difference between ./configure --local?
[17:10] <Sidewinder1> sangelion, Since no one else is answering and I don't completely understand your question, perhaps this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[17:11] <sangelion> thank you sidewinder1... :D
[17:12] <Sidewinder1> sangelion, My pleasure. :-)
[17:13] <sangelion> i just configuring something but refer to the manual.. i just want to understand more. :D
[17:15] <Sidewinder1> sangelion, I understand; compiling is not my "strong point" but it is interesting to learn, even if I don't really need to do it (compiling).
[17:16] <sangelion> :D but something we need it.. because we use ubuntu.. need to configure something..
[17:17] <sangelion> i try to configuring croostool-ng right now.. :D
[19:55] <Gamegoofs2> Hey everyone. I haven't been around for a while, but I'm interested in doing some Ubuntu development again.
[19:55] <Geocosm> Hey, guys. Is there an indicator applet that will show my wireless signal strength in dBm instead of the obscure "one bar, two bars, three bars"?
[20:02] <Brutus-> Geocosm, the iwconfig tool does that, but it isn't an applet
[20:03] <Geocosm> Yeah, I've been using iwconfig wlan0, but I would rather not have to open a terminal to see my signal strength.
[20:03] <Geocosm> That seems kinda silly.
[20:04] <Geocosm> There used to be a mouseover thing that would pop up. But since 11.04 those icons don't have tooltips anymore.
[20:04] <Geocosm> So it's impossible to see my connection strength.
[20:05] <Brutus-> Geocosm, i'll make a script with gui to do that :D
[20:06] <Brutus-> Geocosm, i'll notice you
[20:06] <Brutus-> ah ah ah
[20:07] <Geocosm> lol, seriously?
[20:20] <Brutus-> i've thought about it but then i realized that i don't have a wireless connection :D
[20:21] <Brutus-> anyway it would be simple
[20:23] <Brutus-> just read the value from /proc/net/wireless then print it on a gui
[20:25] <Gamegoofs2> What language would you do it in?
[20:32] <Brutus-> I'd like use Ruby, but require the vm installation. So Java because i know it well ( i beleave :D)
[20:33] <Gamegoofs2> Ok awesome.
[20:33] <Brutus-> But i think Python is the better language to do it
[20:33] <Gamegoofs2> That's what I was thinking.
[20:33] <Brutus-> :)
[20:33] <Gamegoofs2> How easy are GUIs in Python?
[20:35] <Brutus-> I didn't use it much, so i don't know :P
[20:35] <Gamegoofs2> Ok. I've only really done GUIs in Java.
[20:35] <Gamegoofs2> And only a little at that.
[20:36] <Brutus-> Gamegoofs2, read from file in java is quite simple. If you like it you should make the applet :D
[20:37] <Gamegoofs2> Sure!
[20:37] <Gamegoofs2> I've read from a file before.
[20:37] <Gamegoofs2> So I know I can do thagt.
[20:37] <Gamegoofs2> that*
[20:38] <Gamegoofs2> What file am I reading from? :P
[20:40] <Brutus-> into the iwconfig man is write iwconfig read the value from /proc/net/wireless
[20:41] <Brutus-> it don't read, it interpret a raw
[20:44] <Brutus-> i'm going... Bye
[20:44] <Gamegoofs2> I found the file, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for.
[20:45] <Brutus-> Hear you next time
[20:45] <Gamegoofs2> Ok.