| chrisccoulson | it's quiet in here tonight, where is everybody? ;) | 00:20 |
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| bryce_ | heya chrisccoulson | 00:22 |
| chrisccoulson | hi bryce_, how are you? | 00:22 |
| bryce_ | chrisccoulson, good! RAOF and I are in chicago | 00:22 |
| bryce_ | just finished the X developer's conference today | 00:22 |
| bryce_ | chrisccoulson, and yourself? | 00:22 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm not too bad thanks. how was the conference? | 00:23 |
| TheMuso | chrisccoulson: We're around, just busy. :) | 00:24 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 00:24 |
| bryce_ | chrisccoulson, it was good, although mostly just for being able to chat with people; the talks themselves tended to be on the esoteric side | 00:25 |
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| TheMuso | robert_ancell: How can one find out what gnome-settings-daemon runs in the reduced mode? I am trying to debug why orca doesn't start in the lightdm u nity greeter. | 01:16 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-greeter/trunk/view/head:/src/settings-daemon.vala | 01:17 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: ok thanks. | 01:19 |
| TheMuso | Ok, the a11y-settings plugin only deals with keys. I.e if org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications screen-reader-enabled/screen-keyboard-enabled are enabled, it enables org.gnome.desktop.interface toolkit-accessibility. I think its then up to gnome-session to actually launch the assistive technology that has ben activated. I need to dig further to be sure however. | 01:31 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: ^^ as above, I'll file a bug against unity-greeter. | 01:42 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 01:43 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 03:40 |
| TheMuso | Morning pitti. | 04:14 |
| pitti | hey TheMuso, how are you? | 04:15 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Seems someone is still having problems with python-pyatspi2 on upgrade from natty, bug 836798, their logs can be found at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+bug/836798/+attachment/2399653/+files/dist-upgrade.zip. When you have a minute, mind seeing if you can see something else that I have missed? | 04:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 836798 in at-spi2-core "natty to oneiric upgrade failed: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/836798 | 04:15 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 836798 in at-spi2-core "natty to oneiric upgrade failed: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'" [Critical,Triaged] | 04:15 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Not too bad thanks, yourself? | 04:15 |
| pitti | bit tired still, but pretty ok | 04:15 |
| pitti | dist-upgrade.zip, argh | 04:25 |
| TheMuso | yeah I know. | 04:27 |
| pitti | TheMuso: oh, there we go | 04:27 |
| pitti | TheMuso: followed up in the bug | 04:29 |
| TheMuso | ok thanks | 04:29 |
| pitti | TheMuso: in short, libatk-adaptor still has a Conflicts: at-spi | 04:29 |
| TheMuso | Oh right, missed that. | 04:29 |
| pitti | that's the only thing I can stop | 04:30 |
| pitti | "spot" | 04:30 |
| pitti | TheMuso: do you know what the conflicts: is for? | 04:30 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Actually yes, it is because the at-spi source package and at-spi2-atk share /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so | 04:31 |
| * TheMuso double checks | 04:31 | |
| pitti | TheMuso: would at-spi work with at-spi2's libatk-bridge? (I suppose not) | 04:31 |
| pitti | TheMuso: it would be worth testing if a Breaks: would fix the upgrade | 04:32 |
| pitti | it's less strong than a Depends | 04:32 |
| TheMuso | No | 04:32 |
| pitti | TheMuso: and it's missing a Replaces: either way | 04:32 |
| TheMuso | ok | 04:32 |
| pitti | IIRC Replaces: tells apt that you really want to move to the new package, instead of holding back | 04:32 |
| TheMuso | breaks is likely better. | 04:32 |
| pitti | so a breaks: plus replaces: might do the trick | 04:32 |
| TheMuso | yup on it thanks | 04:33 |
| pitti | needs testing, of course, but it's a "more correct" change either way | 04:33 |
| pitti | TheMuso: you can upload this now? then QA can test this again | 04:33 |
| TheMuso | yep | 04:33 |
| TheMuso | and the package already has a replaces. | 04:33 |
| pitti | ah, it's further up, sorry | 04:35 |
| TheMuso | np | 04:35 |
| pitti | TheMuso: still a bit awkward, though, as at-spi still has reverse dependencies, so for people who have one of those installed the upgrade will break | 04:36 |
| pitti | so it's definitively not enough then | 04:37 |
| TheMuso | Yeah, I know | 04:37 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: I'll be on holiday tomorrow, so for coordination: should I upload the lightdm package with the debconf fix and the privilege escalation fix applied, or do you want to do an upload today still anyway? | 04:43 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, just upload the fix for now. I'm trying to track down a race condition in unity-greeter | 04:43 |
| pitti | ok | 04:43 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:23 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 05:23 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti, how are you? | 05:23 |
| pitti | pretty well, thanks! | 05:24 |
| rickspencer3 | jasoncwarner_, where's robert_ancell? | 05:40 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3 | 05:40 |
| rickspencer3 | I noticed I have a text insertion cursor in my greeter this orning! | 05:40 |
| rickspencer3 | hi pitti | 05:40 |
| rickspencer3 | I just dist-upgraded and a lot of my bugs were fixed, I think | 05:40 |
| rickspencer3 | I can use the menus with the keyboard again | 05:40 |
| * rickspencer3 clears out /var/crash and waits | 05:41 | |
| pitti | menu is still broken for me | 05:42 |
| didrocks | good morning rickspencer3 | 05:42 |
| rickspencer3 | hi didrocks | 05:42 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, no F10? | 05:42 |
| pitti | and no alt+letter | 05:42 |
| rickspencer3 | aah | 05:42 |
| rickspencer3 | it's nto fixed for me | 05:43 |
| rickspencer3 | oops | 05:43 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, I see I got a new compiz, I guess you got in a fix for that rather popular crasher? | 05:43 |
| rickspencer3 | I saw it was Fix Committed yesterday | 05:43 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: the crashers are not in compiz but unity | 05:46 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, oh? | 05:46 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: the new compiz was "only" being able to upgrade your configuration (removing the old alt + tab) + setting an option to True | 05:46 |
| rickspencer3 | my .crash files were compiz | 05:46 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: yeah, the process is called "compiz" | 05:46 |
| rickspencer3 | rats, so another day of crashing? | 05:46 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: as the plugin "unity" run in the compiz process | 05:46 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, understood | 05:46 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: the fix will be there as soon as I get some tarballs, I'm already chasing that all FFe/UIFe as been acked | 05:47 |
| rickspencer3 | yikes | 05:47 |
| didrocks | pitti: so, last week UIFe for dash wasn't completed at 100%, I asked Mirco to open a new one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/844889 | 06:01 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 844889 in unity "UIFe: Dash - Shape and positioning of most of the elements in the Dash need adjustment (Part 2)" [Medium,In progress] | 06:01 |
| didrocks | hum, dx team set that to "in progress", /me reverts | 06:02 |
| didrocks | pitti: as well, I asked the dx team to make a FFe for that one: https://code.launchpad.net/~alexlauni/unity-lens-music/musicstore/+merge/75398 | 06:26 |
| didrocks | (and 5 FFe for a release) | 06:27 |
| * didrocks needs to track down the translation team now for an indicator-session string freeze exception | 06:27 | |
| pitti | hm, I think we need a bigger "STOP!" sign :) | 06:36 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, it's about going to drive me crazy TBH :) | 06:37 |
| didrocks | (drive… stop… hope you appreciate my efforts on the analogy :)) | 06:37 |
| pitti | (commented) | 06:37 |
| pitti | didrocks: yes, let's not race into a tree at the last mile! | 06:38 |
| didrocks | pitti: heh :-) | 06:38 |
| * pitti goes to do some more GNOME updates | 06:40 | |
| rickspencer3 | hi robert_ancell! | 06:52 |
| rickspencer3 | I have an insertion cursor in my greeter today! | 06:53 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: lightdm uploaded, FYI | 06:53 |
| rickspencer3 | :) | 06:53 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3, hello | 06:54 |
| robert_ancell | always a bonus :) | 06:54 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, what toolkit does the greeter use? | 06:54 |
| robert_ancell | GTK | 06:54 |
| rickspencer3 | cool | 06:54 |
| rickspencer3 | the greeter looks great | 06:54 |
| rickspencer3 | was it hard to style it the way you wanted? | 06:54 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 07:08 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 07:08 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: and how's your new laptop? | 07:08 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti, i'm good thanks. how are you? | 07:08 |
| pitti | pretty well, thanks! | 07:11 |
| chrisccoulson | huh, upower thinks i have 2 batteries this morning :/ | 07:13 |
| chrisccoulson | well, it thinks one of them isn't present though | 07:14 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson | 07:15 |
| didrocks | dpm: good morning! | 07:15 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks | 07:15 |
| didrocks | dpm: do you have time for a string freeze excepetion for indicator-session? | 07:15 |
| didrocks | dpm: bug #850013 | 07:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 850013 in indicator-session "[UIFe]Says "Reboot Required" instead of "Restart to Complete Updates…"" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850013 | 07:16 |
| dpm | morning didrocks, sure, give me 2 minutes | 07:18 |
| didrocks | dpm: you can even have 3! :-) | 07:18 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: oh, you have an hidden batterie? :-) | 07:18 |
| dpm | :) | 07:19 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, i didn't yesterday, but my laptop seems to have developed one overnight according to the output of upower --dump ;) | 07:19 |
| chrisccoulson | (and i have an empty battery displayed in the power indicator too) | 07:19 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: i want the same! :) | 07:19 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 07:19 |
| chrisccoulson | nice - "time to empty: 8.1 hours" | 07:23 |
| chrisccoulson | :-) | 07:23 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: yay new laptop | 07:23 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, it's better than the 5 minutes battery life that i had on my old one ;) | 07:23 |
| chrisccoulson | i managed to sit downstairs all evening without my charger, and it still had power left at 2am | 07:24 |
| pitti | yeah, I get some 10 hours out of mine, too, it's really nice | 07:24 |
| pitti | I don't even bother bringing the AC adapter to UDS days any more | 07:24 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 07:24 |
| didrocks | pitti: btw, it seems that finally, it still uses the cached wallpaper (I was puzzled yesterday because in the 2.x land, killing nautilus or gnome-settings-daemon forced them to redraw the background on startup, doesn't seem to be the case anymore) | 07:28 |
| pitti | didrocks: ah, thanks! so it's something else | 07:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: like, open the cache file with gimp, make a big cross on it, at next logout/login, you will see it | 07:29 |
| pitti | didrocks: ok, thanks for checking! | 07:29 |
| didrocks | no worry :) | 07:29 |
| * didrocks just discovered again a new feature merged without FFe, urgh… | 07:33 | |
| pitti | didrocks: I updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/11.10/BootSpeedAnalysis accordingly | 07:34 |
| didrocks | pitti: great, thanks! that means there is another issue though :/ | 07:35 |
| pitti | yeah | 07:35 |
| didrocks | pitti: you remember the nautilus at startup I mentionned two weeks ago? | 07:35 |
| pitti | 0.5 to 5 s is pretty bad | 07:35 |
| pitti | didrocks: I don't | 07:35 |
| didrocks | pitti: like, there is a grey window appearing on the left, at the very beginning for 0.5s | 07:36 |
| didrocks | (5 pixels width, almost the whole desktop height) | 07:36 |
| pitti | hm, haven't seen or heard about this yet; is that happening regularly? | 07:36 |
| didrocks | at every boot | 07:36 |
| didrocks | you can kill nautilus | 07:36 |
| didrocks | and let it respawn, you should see it | 07:37 |
| didrocks | (try hiding the launcher first) | 07:37 |
| pitti | $ killall nautilus | 07:37 |
| pitti | $ nautilus | 07:37 |
| pitti | no grey window, just the main window | 07:37 |
| pitti | argh, I really want ctrl+alt+t back | 07:38 |
| didrocks | you have a fast computer :) | 07:38 |
| didrocks | pitti: you can have it back, in gnome-control-center now | 07:38 |
| didrocks | keyboard/shortcuts/Launchers | 07:38 |
| pitti | ah, empty desktop, no launcher, then I see it | 07:38 |
| didrocks | "run a terminal" | 07:38 |
| didrocks | ah :) | 07:38 |
| didrocks | pitti: so, I xprop it | 07:38 |
| didrocks | it's the nautilus desktop window | 07:39 |
| didrocks | its height and width is the full screensize though | 07:39 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 07:39 |
| didrocks | good morning rodrigo_ | 07:39 |
| rodrigo_ | bonjour didrocks | 07:40 |
| pitti | hey rodrigo_ | 07:40 |
| didrocks | pitti: didn't have time to get further, I tried to printf in most of init function of the nautilus desktop background class, and all is initiated before this window appears | 07:40 |
| didrocks | I'm wondering if it's not a pane from classic nautilus hiding… | 07:40 |
| didrocks | (classic as the file browser) | 07:40 |
| didrocks | as upstream doesn't support "show files on desktop" anymore, I won't be surprised some changes broke something there | 07:41 |
| rodrigo_ | hi pitti | 07:41 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, hey, just to let you know I managed to get a lightdm release together by the end of the day. Thanks for the 0.9.5 update though | 07:42 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: ah, nice; thanks | 07:43 |
| * pitti packages new indicator-session which delays aptd | 07:44 | |
| pitti | nice, that'll reduce boot time on the mini 10 by 13 s :) | 07:44 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh, already done | 07:44 |
| didrocks | pitti: just waiting on dpm for the string freeze exception :) | 07:44 |
| pitti | didrocks: what changed now? | 07:44 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh, you mean indicator-session? | 07:44 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah | 07:45 |
| pitti | doesn't seem to be in the branch | 07:45 |
| didrocks | pitti: bug #850013 | 07:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 850013 in indicator-session "[UIFe]Says "Reboot Required" instead of "Restart to Complete Updates…"" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850013 | 07:45 |
| * pitti deletes branch | 07:45 | |
| didrocks | pitti: it's mixed in the commit | 07:45 |
| didrocks | look+ _("Restart to complete updates…")); | 07:46 |
| pitti | right | 07:46 |
| didrocks | - _("Reboot Required")); | 07:46 |
| didrocks | (but not at the same place) | 07:46 |
| didrocks | just rebooting to test there is no surprise, brb :) | 07:47 |
| jasoncwarner_ | pitti: delaying aptd? :) yay! 13s ain't nothing to sneeze at! awesome | 07:47 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: yes, it's the biggest chunk of the regressions, see wiki page | 07:48 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: unfortunately the nautilus regression isn't as obvious as it seemed to be | 07:48 |
| jasoncwarner_ | pitti: i did...am _very_ happy to see that... | 07:48 |
| jasoncwarner_ | pitti: oh? well, neil said he is working on some unity/compiz/lens stuff...and that being 30s is obviously huge | 07:49 |
| pitti | well, not 30, it's 8 for the lenses, and about +5 to +8 for compiz/unity | 07:49 |
| didrocks | pitti: hum, the lenses starts on login? | 07:51 |
| pitti | didrocks: no, but they start if you press the windows button | 07:51 |
| pitti | and it takes about 8 seconds between pressing windows key and the dash actually appearing | 07:51 |
| didrocks | pitti: indeed (it's because of me) | 07:52 |
| pitti | because it's loading the world | 07:52 |
| didrocks | right | 07:52 |
| pitti | and I have a feeling that 6 out of these 8 seconds is reading the apt database | 07:52 |
| didrocks | and the banshee one maybe | 07:52 |
| pitti | this needs to happen async, and on demand (when you enable the app lens, I figure) | 07:52 |
| didrocks | pitti: well, the home dash is looking for everyting everywhere | 07:53 |
| pitti | no | 07:53 |
| pitti | didrocks: you don't see uninstalled apps ther | 07:53 |
| pitti | only in the apps place | 07:53 |
| didrocks | indeed, the category are taken by xapian as well IIRC | 07:53 |
| didrocks | so xapian should be up | 07:53 |
| didrocks | but maybe not apt | 07:53 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: any clue on that ? ^ | 07:54 |
| pitti | well, I haven't actually checked | 07:54 |
| pitti | ah, it's not using apt, just xapian? | 07:54 |
| pitti | I didn't look _what_ takes so long | 07:54 |
| pitti | it was just a suspicion, as it shows available apps | 07:54 |
| didrocks | it's using xapian for sure | 07:54 |
| didrocks | and merging the xapian tree with the gnome-menu one | 07:54 |
| didrocks | pitti: did setting Ctrl + alt + t worked for you? | 07:55 |
| pitti | didrocks: yes | 07:55 |
| kamstrup | didrocks, pitti: opening the S-C xapian index should be really fast. It's basically just mmap()ed afaik | 07:56 |
| pitti | ok, then that's not it | 07:56 |
| kamstrup | pitti, didrocks: the lenses don't use apt. It is pure xapian | 07:56 |
| kamstrup | pitti: but the dash should not be waiting for the lenses to come up... at least it doesn't here | 07:57 |
| kamstrup | If I open it very fast, I can see the lens icons are added async at the bottom | 07:57 |
| pitti | kamstrup: well, whatever it is, it's spinning 8 seconds full CPU after pressing windows the first time, and then comes up | 07:57 |
| pitti | and during that time it starts unity-applications-service (or -daemon?), which takes some 4 or 5 seconds of CPU alone | 07:58 |
| kamstrup | pitti: wow... that's a lot! | 07:58 |
| pitti | kamstrup: you can see the difference here: | 07:58 |
| pitti | http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/bootcharts/daniel-oneiric-20110914-disable-indicator-session.png | 07:58 |
| pitti | (no dash) | 07:58 |
| kamstrup | pitti: I think that may be a regression... it used to be that it was very lazy loading | 07:58 |
| pitti | http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/bootcharts/daniel-oneiric-20110914-disable-indicator-session_open-dash.png (open dash right after startup) | 07:58 |
| pitti | kamstrup: the majority of CPU activity is in the compiz process, though (i. e. unity) | 07:59 |
| chrisccoulson | i just looked at a bootchart on my new laptop | 08:00 |
| kamstrup | pitti: ah, ok, I thought it was in u-l-a | 08:00 |
| chrisccoulson | X seems to do nothing for 5 seconds here before the greeter appears :/ | 08:00 |
| chrisccoulson | but at least it's better than my old one ;) | 08:00 |
| kamstrup | pitti: but yeah, starting compiz seems to be a major drag | 08:00 |
| didrocks | pitti: for u-l-a is it a regression from natty? | 08:00 |
| pitti | I don't know, I didn't do charts for natty | 08:01 |
| * didrocks wonders if its not alt + F2 which does io at startup | 08:01 | |
| didrocks | hum no, pitti is on ssd IIRC, so shouldn't be the issue | 08:02 |
| pitti | yes, the mini 10v has an SSD, and not a too bad one | 08:02 |
| didrocks | I still should try to not do this io anyway… | 08:02 |
| didrocks | agateau: hey, do you have some time today to debug a Qt issue which seems to be widespread? | 08:09 |
| agateau | didrocks: what is all about? | 08:09 |
| * agateau suspects it's the one he started tracking this morning | 08:09 | |
| didrocks | agateau: seems an issue when using the gtk widget style: bug #805303 | 08:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 805303 in qt4-x11 "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed with the default qt4 gui" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805303 | 08:10 |
| agateau | ah, no, not the one I expected | 08:10 |
| didrocks | sorry for that :-) | 08:10 |
| agateau | no problem :) | 08:10 |
| didrocks | agateau: thanks! (I didn't found anything on the upstream bug tracker) | 08:11 |
| didrocks | find* | 08:11 |
| didrocks | agateau: FYI, on the french forum, some apps which has the issue: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=635911 | 08:11 |
| agateau | ok | 08:12 |
| agateau | didrocks: I can't reproduce it :/ | 08:30 |
| didrocks | agateau: do you have the theme set to a gtk one? | 08:30 |
| agateau | didrocks: I do | 08:30 |
| agateau | didrocks: can you reproduce it? | 08:30 |
| dpm | didrocks, sorry it took a while, but I've just +1'd the indicator-session string freeze break. Let me know if there is anything else I can do. Oh, and if next time whoever breaks the freeze could send an e-mail to the translators and docs list, that'd be great, as it will save me doing it :) | 08:31 |
| didrocks | agateau: vlc ui doesn't start there, I didn't get the time to have a look, I'll try with on of the other application | 08:31 |
| didrocks | dpm: I told them to send an email… three times | 08:31 |
| dpm | didrocks, ok, so now it's four, as I reminded them on the bug too :) | 08:32 |
| didrocks | dpm: but thanks for the ack, I'll upload now! | 08:32 |
| dpm | hopefully the message comes across :) | 08:32 |
| pitti | dpm: while you are at it, would you mind taking a look at bug 792636 ? | 08:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 792636 in gnome-control-center "[FFE] [UIFE] [Regression] Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/792636 | 08:36 |
| dupondje | Will we rebase gnome-settings-deamon on the newest master before release? | 08:37 |
| dpm | pitti, oh sorry, I meant to have a look at it yesterday, but got sidetracked, on it. I think it makes sense to provide the functionality again, so +1 on translations. Let me reply to the bug | 08:38 |
| pitti | dpm: thanks | 08:38 |
| dupondje | anyone ? :) | 08:40 |
| pitti | dupondje: 2.91.92 should arrive on Monday, we'll do it then | 08:41 |
| didrocks | pitti: post beta2, isn't it? | 08:41 |
| pitti | no, this should be in for beta-2 | 08:41 |
| dupondje | ah great :) cause there is a bug I want fixed in it now, but fixed in gnome :) | 08:41 |
| pitti | libraries today (unless there are trivial fixes), apps on Monday | 08:42 |
| pitti | I discussed that with release team last Friday | 08:42 |
| chrisccoulson | huh, i have to manually start pulseaudio here to get any sound (and for the sound indicator to work) :/ | 08:42 |
| pitti | Seb should be back on Monday, but some more help will be appreciated to update and test everything quickly | 08:42 |
| ricotz | pitti, hello | 08:42 |
| pitti | hey ricotz | 08:43 |
| ricotz | pitti, it seems there will be no new gtk2 release in the near futurue so it might be worth to add this patch http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?h=gtk-2-24&id=e0f3b18c37f1d5e9e0b9c7745513566686c006b0 | 08:43 |
| pitti | ricotz: what does that do? | 08:44 |
| ricotz | currently the filechooser dialog is a bit broken due this problem | 08:44 |
| ricotz | try to save a webpage from i.e. firefox | 08:44 |
| ricotz | and look at the filetype combobox | 08:44 |
| pitti | oh, it's too narrow | 08:45 |
| ricotz | this applies to all gtk2 apps using it | 08:45 |
| pitti | is there a bug # for it already? | 08:45 |
| pitti | (i. e. something which the changelog needs to close) | 08:45 |
| ricotz | idno, have looked for one | 08:45 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: ok for me to upload control-center, or do you want to do an upload today anyway? | 08:46 |
| dupondje | GunnarHj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/838101 => So you mean its not longer possible to choose nl_BE, and it will always be nl_NL ?! | 08:48 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 838101 in language-selector "Locale settings not saved" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 08:48 |
| dupondje | why the hell its possible to add n'Nederlands (BelgiÃe)' to the st then? | 08:49 |
| ricotz | pitti, didnt found a related bug-report | 08:49 |
| pitti | ricotz: ok, then we'll just upload it like that | 08:49 |
| pitti | ricotz: will that fix the too narrow file type selector? | 08:49 |
| ricotz | yes, it should | 08:49 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: ah, I'll just upload; there's plenty of version numbers, and the package is not that big | 08:50 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, yes, not sure if I'll upload anythiong today, depends on the bugs I fixed, so go ahead | 08:51 |
| rodrigo_ | s/I fixed/I fix :) | 08:52 |
| pitti | ricotz: ok, building | 08:52 |
| * pitti needs to run out for some errands, bbl | 08:52 | |
| ricotz | pitti, thanks | 08:53 |
| agateau | didrocks: did you try some more to reproduce bug #805303? | 09:01 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 805303 in qt4-x11 "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed with the default qt4 gui" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805303 | 09:01 |
| agateau | didrocks: I am stuck | 09:01 |
| didrocks | agateau: sorry, pingy time there | 09:01 |
| didrocks | and paperwork, paperwork, paperwork… | 09:01 |
| agateau | fun | 09:02 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: what do you think about closing all 450 New/Incomplete/Confirmed/Triaged bugs with Wishlist/Low priority in OpenOffice.org packaging as WONTFIX and ask reporters to reopen it in LibreOffice if it still applies? This is only bugs on "OpenOffice.org (Ubuntu)" not OOo upstream bugs. | 09:03 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: add 353 undecided bugs to that. | 09:04 |
| didrocks | agateau: running calibre, I have the gtk_critical | 09:18 |
| didrocks | agateau: but apart from the spam, it seems to work | 09:18 |
| agateau | didrocks: yes, I suspect the gtk_critical messages are not the problem | 09:19 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: sounds fine to me; there's little hope that these get triaged properly eventually anyway | 09:23 |
| pitti | "bug bankrupcy" | 09:23 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: hrhr | 09:26 |
| didrocks | agateau: more than possible, indeed | 09:27 |
| dupondje | What do we think about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/838101 ? I really think it should be possible to select for example nl_BE. | 09:31 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 838101 in language-selector "Locale settings not saved" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 09:31 |
| didrocks | ok, rebooting to test unity-2d | 09:31 |
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| didrocks | pitti: sorry that I missed the other bug # | 09:45 |
| pitti | didrocks: no problem :) | 09:46 |
| pitti | ricotz: that patch doesn't fix the broken file type selector, at least not in firefox | 09:50 |
| pitti | ricotz: I committed it to bzr anyway, but I won't upload it | 09:51 |
| ricotz | pitti, the patch you added isnt the one i mentioned | 10:10 |
| pitti | ricotz: oh, I guess /url grab fail | 10:10 |
| pitti | ricotz: sorry, will update | 10:10 |
| ricotz | pitti, np ;) | 10:11 |
| ricotz | pitti, just to be sure http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?h=gtk-2-24&id=e0f3b18c37f1d5e9e0b9c7745513566686c006b0 | 10:11 |
| pitti | yep | 10:12 |
| pitti | got it | 10:12 |
| pitti | my "/url" command just cut at the & | 10:12 |
| ricotz | ok | 10:12 |
| pitti | ricotz: works fine, uploading | 10:25 |
| ricotz | pitti, good :) | 10:30 |
| njpatel | Pici, didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/828862 | 10:30 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 828862 in unity "[UIFe] Radiance panel icons are unreadable and ugly when panel goes transparent with Dash" [High,Confirmed] | 10:30 |
| njpatel | fudge | 10:30 |
| njpatel | pitti, ^ | 10:30 |
| pitti | yes, confirming | 10:31 |
| didrocks | njpatel: have you sent an email to the documentation team? | 10:31 |
| njpatel | didrocks, I subscribed them so far, about to send an email | 10:31 |
| * didrocks adds the unity downstream task meanwhile | 10:31 | |
| pitti | njpatel: updated | 10:32 |
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| pitti | didrocks: oh, I just did | 10:32 |
| pitti | I re-used the light-themes one | 10:32 |
| pitti | ok, mid-air collision | 10:33 |
| didrocks | pitti: indeed, sorry about it :) | 10:33 |
| pitti | not your fault :) | 10:33 |
| njpatel | didrocks, sent | 10:35 |
| njpatel | pitti, thanks | 10:35 |
| didrocks | njpatel: thanks! | 10:35 |
| njpatel | the change is all inside Unity, I believe | 10:35 |
| didrocks | mvo: oh? you removed software-center-gtk3 binary? | 10:40 |
| * didrocks rushes to change in unity-lens-applications | 10:40 | |
| mvo | didrocks: uh, should I ship a symlink? | 10:41 |
| * mvo is actually away for lunch | 10:41 | |
| didrocks | mvo: that's ok, we'll have a release soon, I just spotted it reading the changelog :) | 10:41 |
| didrocks | done :) | 10:42 |
| pgraner | didrocks, just up dated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/846335 with a screen shot, I updated to the latest package and it still has the issue | 10:45 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 846335 in unity-2d "[panel] graphics corruption in top line of pixels" [High,Fix released] | 10:45 |
| didrocks | pgraner: indeed, seeing it, thanks for the feedback, retargetting and reopening for the unity-2d team | 10:46 |
| didrocks | (depends on graphic card, it seems, I didn't get it while testing) | 10:47 |
| dupondje | its not possible anymore with the gnome-control-center to select nl_BE instead of nl_NL ?! | 10:49 |
| pitti | you want language-selector for that | 10:50 |
| pitti | c-c only selects a language, not a country | 10:50 |
| dupondje | pitti: in the c-c you can add 'Nederlands (Belgie)' but it gets removed after a restart of the c-c | 10:52 |
| dupondje | in the language-selector, it seems country cannot be chosen ? | 10:52 |
| dupondje | well it can be choosed in 'Country Settings' but that doesn't set the locale correctly it seems | 10:53 |
| dupondje | http://paste.ubuntu.com/689894/ => this is what it saved to .profile ... | 10:54 |
| pitti | export LANG="nl_BE.UTF-8" | 10:54 |
| pitti | that seems correct? | 10:54 |
| dupondje | the LANG yes | 10:54 |
| dupondje | rest not :( | 10:54 |
| pitti | that also seems fine | 10:54 |
| pitti | these categories are only language specific, not country | 10:54 |
| dupondje | hmz ok | 10:55 |
| dupondje | /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive was corrupt here :s it included chinese locale, while I did not install it | 10:59 |
| dupondje | weird :) | 10:59 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson, didrocks: FYI, I'll be on holidays tomorrow, and this afternoon I'll only be on IRC scarcely | 11:02 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, enjoy your long week-end then! :) | 11:02 |
| davmor2 | Morning guys I have an issue in oneiric in that the select a printer isn't detecting a printer connected to another machine on my network, works on natty and maverick just not oneiric, is there anything I can do to debug it a little? | 11:03 |
| dupondje | pitti: still a little remark. If I for example ssh to a remote server not having nl_NL installed, but only nl_BE locale installed, I get errors when running perl for example. | 11:05 |
| dupondje | so still I think we should set LC_MESSAGES to nl_BE no? | 11:05 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - oh, have a nice weekend then :) | 11:19 |
| mvo | didrocks: thanks! | 11:24 |
| chrisccoulson | hmm, zeritgeist-deamon seems to use tonnes of memory here | 11:32 |
| pitti | dupondje: yeah, that's currently being discussed in https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/oneiric/accountsservice/unset-lcmess/+merge/73219 | 11:54 |
| pitti | dupondje: it shouldn't set all these variables in the first place | 11:54 |
| smspillaz | pitti: how busy are you ? | 11:56 |
| smspillaz | like, super busy, or OK to look at an ffe/uife | 11:56 |
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| * rodrigo_ lunch | 12:09 | |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| tkamppeter | I am trying to fix bug 842768. On normal print jobs a notification popps up telling that the printer is not connected. It is triggered by CUPS shouting a "connecting-to-device" state reason into the D-Bus, but I cannot find out which program picks up this. I have already uninstalled system-config-printer and the notification still appears. | 12:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 842768 in system-config-printer "Cups notifies "printer ' xxx ' may be not connected " although printer is OK and printing is OK too" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842768 | 12:21 |
| njpatel | pitti, with your comments on the panel bug, does that mean I still need the docs team to +1 or does that cover it? (sorry, I'm a bit confused) | 12:31 |
| njpatel | pitti, as we have a few more UIFe's that have been waiting for some time and maybe you can take a look at them | 12:32 |
| didrocks | njpatel: I would tell it covers it for your question #1 | 12:33 |
| didrocks | njpatel: so to sum up, we need: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/844889 -> documentation ack | 12:33 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 844889 in unity "UIFe: Dash - Shape and positioning of most of the elements in the Dash need adjustment (Part 2)" [Medium,In progress] | 12:33 |
| didrocks | and the release team ack on smspillaz's branch | 12:33 |
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| oier | could somebody please point me to good documentation for porting (python) apps to GTK3? | 12:55 |
| dobey | oier: i wish i could :-/ | 13:02 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: https://pastebin.canonical.com/52832/ looking good for the build closing of ooo bugs? | 13:03 |
| dobey | oier: gobject-introspection usage isn't particularly well documented | 13:06 |
| afeder | can someone help me getting started with using 'edit-patch' plz? | 13:06 |
| Sweetshark | s/build/bulk/ | 13:07 |
| oier | I mean a lot of apps have been ported to GTK3 recently, there has to be some reference somewhere | 13:07 |
| afeder | i'n trying to patch against network-manager with edit-patch but can't figure out how to proceed (see last comment at https://code.launchpad.net/~anders-feder/network-manager-applet/bug-704123/+merge/74964 ) | 13:07 |
| afeder | i'm* | 13:08 |
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| dobey | just a test: | 13:15 |
| dobey | bug #827465 | 13:15 |
| dobey | hrmm | 13:16 |
| dobey | ubot2: bug 827465 | 13:16 |
| dobey | interesting. | 13:17 |
| Sweetshark | issue 827465 | 13:25 |
| dobey | Sweetshark: nah, it's because it is private. just wanted to see what ubot2 did comapred to what ubot4 was doing. apparently LP changed and broke the bots wrt private bugs. :-/ | 13:30 |
| Sweetshark | dobey: k | 13:30 |
| tkamppeter | anyone can help me tracking down from which program a notification message comes? | 13:37 |
| rodrigo_ | anyone knows why we patch gnome-nettool to use tracepath instead of traceroute? | 13:41 |
| pitti | njpatel: panel bug> it's approved, so please go ahead; we had enough similar cases in the past that I think I can speak for the doc team in that regard | 13:47 |
| pitti | njpatel: for the others, can you please ask in #u-release? I'm pretty much off for a long weekend now (took a holiday) | 13:48 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: "status won't fix" -> "status wontfix" I think | 13:49 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: "also affects OO.o/LibO" is confusing, as OO.o is the very thing that is obsolete here; I'd just ask for filing a new bug with apport-bug if I were you, so that you get package versions etc. | 13:51 |
| njpatel | pitti, okay, will do. Have a good break :D | 13:54 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: hmm ok. | 13:54 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: any idea why the email interface ignores the comment? | 13:54 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: no idea, no; it usually works for me; but for the command to succeed you need to gpg sign | 13:54 |
| pitti | anyway, see you on Monday! | 13:55 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: ping. is the tb extension packaged? | 13:58 |
| rodrigo_ | hey dobey | 14:01 |
| dobey | hey rodrigo_ | 14:01 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, couchdb still doesn't work | 14:01 |
| dobey | ? | 14:01 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, desktopcouch does though | 14:01 |
| rodrigo_ | but couchdb gets stuck on any requests, never answers back | 14:01 |
| rodrigo_ | is the fixed couchdb in the archive now? | 14:01 |
| dobey | hmm | 14:01 |
| dobey | the couchdb with the patch jgruber cherry picked from svn is, yes | 14:02 |
| dobey | 1.0.1-0ubuntu17 | 14:02 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, that's the one I have | 14:02 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: hmm. i don't know. | 14:10 |
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| rodrigo_ | dobey, trying to debug, but "debugging" and "couchdb" seem to be antagonic terms :-) | 14:20 |
| dobey | indeed | 14:22 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: i have empty databases afaik, and with sync not working right for me, i can't add them on the web site and then poke local couchdb after a sync | 14:23 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, I am debugging the connection bewteen evo-couchdb and couchdb, and I never get an answer | 14:26 |
| rodrigo_ | not even a timeout, or error or something | 14:26 |
| dobey | well it's a tcp connection to HTTP, so you should get a timeout at least, even if it takes 10 minutes to get it | 14:27 |
| rodrigo_ | riught, replication doesn't work neither here | 14:27 |
| rodrigo_ | last entry in the log is from April | 14:27 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, yes, that's what I thought | 14:28 |
| dobey | oh i do have a couple records | 14:29 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, can you run e-addressbook-factory with COUCHDB_DEBUG_MESSAGES=1 and see what it outputs? | 14:31 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: couchdb is working ok here, using desktopcouch in python | 14:31 |
| tkamppeter | Anyone can help me wit an indicator notification issue? | 14:31 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: i seem to have 2 notes in my db | 14:31 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, and evolution doesn't work for you? | 14:32 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: and i just printed the content of one of them | 14:32 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: evolution doesn't work properly no. i just get an empty contacts list and can't seem to add a new contact | 14:32 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: i think evolution 3.x is seriously broken | 14:34 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: even in my local address book where i seem to have 153 contacts, it only ever renders the first page of the view | 14:35 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, hmm, I see that also, right | 14:35 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: i just dragged a contact to 'Ubuntu One' and nothing happened :-/ | 14:36 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: and if i try to delete the 'Ubuntu One' address book from evolution, it just says it couldn't do it, without any real reason why | 14:37 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: e-addressbook-factory isn't printing anything useful; i just tried to add a contact from the nautilus share dialog too, and no changes | 14:41 |
| dobey | wtf | 14:42 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: i think maybe this is an e-d-s issue perhaps | 14:43 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, yes, evo-couchdb worked great with the system-wide couchdb, so something's broken indeed | 14:53 |
| rodrigo_ | and couchdb seems to work, at least the web UI works for me | 14:54 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: yeah, the desktopcouch python API works for me | 14:54 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: so seems like maybe something in e-d-s or evolution-couchdb or couchdb-glib unfortunately :-/ | 14:55 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: and in thunderbird i'm getting the "cannot open ubuntu one" message | 14:59 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, test programs in couchdb-glib work ok, so seems e-d-s | 15:08 |
| rodrigo_ | and evo-couchdb used to work a couple weeks ago with system instance perfectly | 15:08 |
| rodrigo_ | so something's broken in e-d-s | 15:09 |
| dobey | does it fail now with system couchdb for you? | 15:09 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: i guess something changed in e-d-s 3.x that evolution-couchdb needs to deal with. | 15:10 |
| jcastro | dobey: so hey, is that launch-time bug going to get any better? Or is that basically the best you can do? | 15:13 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, yes | 15:13 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, afaik not, and I've been using 3.1.x on my tests with the system couch | 15:14 |
| rodrigo_ | so it's something on the last update | 15:14 |
| dobey | jcastro: not until 12.04; that's basicaly the best we can do for oneiric | 15:14 |
| jcastro | dobey: ok, can you leave that on the bug report? I guess we can resolve it for now so it's not on the release team death list? | 15:15 |
| dobey | jcastro: what other *startup* issue is there? | 15:16 |
| jcastro | startup is still way slower than before, but you said that's not your fault right? | 15:16 |
| dobey | jcastro: it seems to take the same amount of time to start up now, for me, regardless of whether the u1ms extension is installed or not | 15:24 |
| dobey | jcastro: also, i highly recommend this place: http://www.laspadashoagies.com/locations.php | 15:25 |
| dobey | must get lunch now... | 15:27 |
| rodrigo_ | what do people have installed for flash stuff on the browser? | 15:33 |
| rodrigo_ | I installed gnash, but some pages don't play anything | 15:34 |
| rodrigo_ | and flashplugin-installer is broken right now | 15:34 |
| rodrigo_ | can't install it, that is | 15:34 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, did you look anymore at this issue with the wallpaper shifting on startup? | 16:01 |
| chrisccoulson | 000:<:021e: 48: Request(1): CreateWindow depth=0x18 window=0x02000095 parent=0x02000004 x=5 y=0 width=3120 height=1050 border-width=0 class=InputOutput(0x0001) visual=0x00000021 value-list={background-pixel=0x00000000 border-pixel=0x00000000 bit-gravity=NorthWest(0x01) colormap=0x00000020} | 16:01 |
| chrisccoulson | looks suspicious to me ;) | 16:01 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I really didn't get the time to look at it more | 16:01 |
| didrocks | it's your wallpaper screensize? | 16:01 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - 3120 x 1050 is my display geometry | 16:01 |
| chrisccoulson | but x=5 looks wrong ;) | 16:02 |
| didrocks | indeed | 16:02 |
| chrisccoulson | now to figure out where that comes from | 16:02 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I shift the icons subwindow a little bit if unity is there | 16:02 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: but more than 5 (the value is hardcoded) | 16:02 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i don't think it's related to that | 16:03 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: and I try without any of our patches | 16:03 |
| didrocks | doesn't seem to be our fault :) | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i should break on XCreateWindow ;) | 16:04 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: yeah, that's a wise idea :) | 16:04 |
| GunnarHj | didrocks: Hi Didier, any chance that you can sponsor another language-selector MP (before 21 UTC)? https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/language-selector/fontconfig/+merge/75045 | 16:37 |
| didrocks | GunnarHj: sorry not today, it's unity/compiz release last run before beta2 freeze | 16:38 |
| didrocks | GunnarHj: maybe you can find people (patch pilot?) on #ubuntu-devel or anyone else here? | 16:38 |
| tkamppeter | Can someone upload gnome-settings-daemon before beta2 freeze? I have done a fix on it, bug 842768. | 17:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 842768 in gnome-settings-daemon "Cups notifies "printer ' xxx ' may be not connected " although printer is OK and printing is OK too" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842768 | 17:06 |
| dobey | jcastro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuSker-rLrM | 17:08 |
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| GunnarHj | didrocks: Ok. Already tried patch pilots, but they don't seem to be present. I'll give it one more shot here... | 17:28 |
| GunnarHj | cjwatson: Hi Colin, do you possibly have time to sponsor a language-selector MP? https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/language-selector/fontconfig/+merge/75045 | 17:29 |
| GunnarHj | (if somebody else who sees this has an opportunity to jump in, please let me know) | 17:29 |
| cjwatson | GunnarHj: really not, sorry | 17:40 |
| cjwatson | 2h before beta freeze and I have two branches to prepare for somebody else to review in time to be uploaded for that | 17:41 |
| GunnarHj | cjwatson: Ok. Guess it will have to wait, then. No disaster. | 17:42 |
| dobey | oh crap, beta freeze is today, not tuesday? :( | 17:51 |
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| Sweetshark | jasoncwarner_: ping? | 19:20 |
| chrisccoulson | g'ah, no robert yet? | 21:41 |
| chrisccoulson | the latest lightdm breaks all policykit authorizations :( | 21:42 |
| james_w | not setting up consolekit session correctly? | 21:42 |
| chrisccoulson | james_w - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/lightdm/+bug/851055/comments/8 | 21:47 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 851055 in lightdm "[Oneiric] 'Not Authorized' error given when mounting device" [Critical,Triaged] | 21:47 |
| jcastro | hey chrisccoulson, is a new webkit keeping new epiphany out of oneiric? | 22:00 |
| chrisccoulson | jcastro, yeah, i think so | 22:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't follow that so much though | 22:01 |
| jcastro | ah bummer | 22:01 |
| Sweetshark | !seen jasoncwarner_ | 22:08 |
| ubot2 | I have no seen command | 22:08 |
| * Sweetshark hands ubot2 a cookie. | 22:08 | |
| cyphermox | Sweetshark: I last saw jasoncwarner_ yesterday, about this time; maybe he's about to be reachable. | 22:12 |
| Sweetshark | cyphermox: thx | 22:13 |
| Sweetshark | chrisccoulson: monsters in your bed? | 22:13 |
| chrisccoulson | Sweetshark, how come? | 22:14 |
| Sweetshark | chrisccoulson: I just thought: "chris is logging of like any sensible european would do by now ;)" | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 22:17 |
| chrisccoulson | just trying to figure out what lightdm is doing wrong with PAM | 22:17 |
| chrisccoulson | i think i've figured it out now though | 22:17 |
| chrisccoulson | brb | 22:17 |
| TheMuso | chrisccoulson: Thanks for letting the channel know about lightdm issues, I'll hold off updating for the time being. | 23:17 |
| chrisccoulson | TheMuso, yeah, it breaks pretty much everything, including audio | 23:17 |
| TheMuso | Yep, I kinda need that. :) | 23:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll just upload a fix if robert doesn't appear in the next 20 minutes or so | 23:18 |
| pgraner | Has anyone seen the Panel with the Nautilus menu and nothing else after updating tonight? 3d session is totally useless | 23:20 |
| chrisccoulson | pgraner, i haven't seen that, but it sounds like the unity plugin is perhaps disabled | 23:21 |
| pgraner | chrisccoulson, how do I check to see? | 23:21 |
| chrisccoulson | pgraner, do you have ccsm installed? | 23:22 |
| pgraner | chrisccoulson, yep, however I'm in 2d right now | 23:22 |
| * pgraner wonders if that matters? | 23:22 | |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure if that works from the 2d session | 23:23 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess there's no reason why it shouldn't | 23:23 |
| pgraner | chrisccoulson, so in the 2d session it is checked | 23:23 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm :/ | 23:23 |
| chrisccoulson | might be a question for didrocks ;) | 23:23 |
| chrisccoulson | although, he's sleeping now | 23:24 |
| TheMuso | I am pretty sure ccsm works regardless of whether compiz is running. | 23:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't use the 3d session atm either | 23:24 |
| pgraner | chrisccoulson, yea, I was afraid of that | 23:24 |
| chrisccoulson | hah, it's robert_ancell | 23:25 |
| chrisccoulson | cornered! | 23:25 |
| pgraner | chrisccoulson, I saw this behavior once before earlier in the cycle | 23:25 |
| robert_ancell | it's a lie. I'm actually someone else entirely | 23:25 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 23:25 |
| TheMuso | lol | 23:25 |
| pgraner | chrisccoulson, I was afraid the bug might be back | 23:25 |
| htorque | pgraner: have you tried unity --reset? this should reset the compiz settings to unity's defaults and start unity (but i'm not sure what this will do to your 2d session) | 23:25 |
| chrisccoulson | pgraner, yeah, it seems a bit fragile :/ | 23:25 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, it seems you broke the world with lightdm ;) | 23:26 |
| robert_ancell | oh awesome | 23:26 |
| pgraner | htorque, I'll try it, brb | 23:26 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, bug 851055 | 23:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 851055 in lightdm "[Oneiric] 'Not Authorized' error given when mounting device" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851055 | 23:26 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, setting PAM_TTY to the console device path causes pam-ck-connector to create an additional CK session ;) | 23:27 |
| chrisccoulson | (breaking policykit) | 23:27 |
| robert_ancell | nice | 23:28 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 23:29 |
| pgraner | htorque, will that did it but I lost all my previous settings... like ctl-alt-t for a new term :( | 23:30 |
| * pgraner wonders what this isn't default anymore | 23:30 | |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, what do you recommend? do we remove that change or is there a fix to what it should be set to? | 23:30 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, it seems that gdm sets PAM_TTY to the X display name, so we should probably do the same | 23:30 |
| htorque | pgraner: sorry for that :( | 23:30 |
| chrisccoulson | i didn't test that yet though, but that looks like it would stop pam-ck-connector from creating the extra session | 23:31 |
| pgraner | htorque, no worries, no I can get back to filing bugs :) | 23:31 |
| robert_ancell | chriswell, that's logical... | 23:33 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, that's logical... | 23:33 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 23:33 |
| chrisccoulson | that's what i thought when i looked at it too ;) | 23:34 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, ok, building a new version now... | 23:37 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, do you understand the urgency thing on debian/changelog? Should I set it to more than the default of low? | 23:40 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, i don't think it has any effect in ubuntu | 23:41 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, that's what I figured | 23:41 |
| robert_ancell | ok, rebooting | 23:41 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, ok, that seems to fix it. Are you amd64? Could you confirm the fix? | 23:44 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, yeah, i'm on amd64 | 23:45 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, actually it's probably faster to build from the branch. I've just pushed the update | 23:45 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks, i'll do that | 23:46 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, brb | 23:49 |
| chrisccoulson | yay \o/ - "Sep 16 00:50:05 farnsworth lightdm: pam_ck_connector(lightdm:session): nox11 mode, ignoring PAM_TTY :0" | 23:51 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, yeah, that fixes it :) | 23:51 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, what log is that? | 23:51 |
| robert_ancell | nice | 23:51 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, auth.log, but i added "debug" in /etc/pam.d/common-session | 23:51 |
| chrisccoulson | (for pam_ck_connector.so) | 23:52 |
| robert_ancell | ok, uploaded new version. Is Oneiric still open for uploads? | 23:55 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, it's frozen now, but i'll see if anyone in #ubuntu-release can approve it | 23:56 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, thanks for debugging this one | 23:56 |
| chrisccoulson | no problem, it was good to look at something else for a change :) | 23:57 |
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