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| ppisati | hallo? :) | 15:01 |
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| NCommander | #startmeeting | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Sep 15 15:01:04 2011 UTC. The chair is NCommander. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | fnop | 15:01 |
| ppisati | fput() | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | :) | 15:01 |
| * davidm_ waves | 15:01 | |
| NCommander | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2011/20110915 | 15:01 |
| NCommander | [topic] Action Item Review | 15:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Action Item Review | ||
| NCommander | [topic] ogra to find out whats wrong with the tracker | 15:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ogra to find out whats wrong with the tracker | ||
| ogra_ | thats moot | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | we had the wrong url | 15:02 |
| NCommander | ah, so a PEBKAC problem | 15:02 |
| * NCommander can't spell this mornming | 15:02 | |
| ogra_ | heh | 15:02 |
| NCommander | [topic] Standing Items | 15:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Standing Items | ||
| NCommander | [topic] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm.html | 15:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm.html | ||
| NCommander | [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm-ubuntu-11.10-beta-2.html | 15:03 |
| janimo | hello | 15:03 |
| * ogra_ has a question for one of his items ... | 15:04 | |
| ogra_ | do we actually want to do the ext4 switch right now ? | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | it seriously seems a bit late to me for such a change | 15:05 |
| NCommander | for preinstalls? | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | yes | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | live-build only recently got support for ext4 | 15:05 |
| janimo | ogra_, would be good imo, does live-build have the patch already? (In Ubuntu I mean) | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | so we could theoretically still do the switch | 15:05 |
| GrueMaster | Should have been done for A2/A3. Little late now. | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | but that also means lots of fallount i think | 15:05 |
| NCommander | Best to stay with ext3 for now, and change it for A1 in P cycle | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | janimo, no idea, but we could pull it in | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | but i'm more in a tendency to postpone it | 15:06 |
| janimo | ogra_, not a very important thing, just a would be nice to align with ubuntu x86 and linaro | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | i agree | 15:06 |
| NCommander | definately something for next cycle | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | but beta freeze is tomorrow and the images still have tons of bugs | 15:06 |
| janimo | with linaro's monthly schedule we will always have stale images featurewise for a few months | 15:06 |
| * NCommander adds it to the blueprint list | 15:06 | |
| janimo | sure | 15:06 |
| janimo | NCommander, blueprint wiki link please? | 15:07 |
| GrueMaster | Beta freeze is today. | 15:07 |
| janimo | So it is not a real freeze, just a beta one | 15:07 |
| GrueMaster | [link]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/PBlueprintIdeas | 15:07 |
| NCommander | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/PBlueprintIdeas#preview | 15:07 |
| NCommander | drat, GrueMaster was faster | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, well, past midnight for me ;) | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, GrueMaster was cleaner :P | 15:08 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) | 15:09 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) | ||
| NCommander | server itself looks like its in good shape for A2, though we have some outstanding OMAP issues which I'll bring up during porting | 15:10 |
| NCommander | anyone got anything else? | 15:10 |
| janimo | is mx5 related to server in any way? | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | no | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | we dont roll server for it | 15:12 |
| NCommander | Guess there's nothing else | 15:13 |
| NCommander | [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati) | 15:13 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati) | ||
| ppisati | it's me, Paolo! :) | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | yay | 15:14 |
| ppisati | there;s a new omap4 kernel | 15:14 |
| ppisati | and this new kernel fixes some outstanding issues: framebuffer coloring, audio, and a couple of warnings on boot | 15:14 |
| janimo | there's a new ac100 kernel upload preparing to fix the USB speed issue and to enable DRM but nothing else | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | framebuffer coloring ? are you serious ?!? | 15:15 |
| ppisati | unfortunately the new kernel breaks the pvr driver, but that should be fixed in an upcoming release | 15:15 |
| ppisati | yep | 15:15 |
| ppisati | :) | 15:15 |
| * ogra_ got used to the blue after all these releases | 15:15 | |
| ppisati | no more "smurf-colored" console | 15:15 |
| ppisati | :) | 15:15 |
| mahmoh | the USB speed issue is fixed already in the omap4 kernel? | 15:15 |
| ppisati | oh yes | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | yes | 15:15 |
| ppisati | sorry | 15:15 |
| ppisati | i forgot about the important stuff | 15:15 |
| NCommander | I thought purple in d-i was intentional | 15:15 |
| ppisati | yes, Ming's ehci fix is in there too | 15:15 |
| ppisati | so, good usb i/o too | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, but blue text in black tty console wasnt ;) | 15:16 |
| ppisati | now we "only" need to fix pm and pvr driver and that will be the best omap release so far :) | 15:16 |
| ppisati | oh yes, and kexec too... | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | wohoo | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | on the ac100 front, janimo takles over the ac100 kernel now | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | so we will finally get a git tree i guess :) | 15:17 |
| * ppisati didn't mention the usual round of kernel updates for all the other arm flavours since we are getting one of this every week | 15:17 | |
| ppisati | cool | 15:17 |
| NCommander | yay git | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | pfft git | 15:17 |
| Ursinha | lol | 15:18 |
| * Ursinha grabs the popcorn and watches | 15:18 | |
| ogra_ | lol | 15:18 |
| ppisati | and it seems cooloney is back | 15:18 |
| ogra_ | oh, nice, will he come back and attend then ? | 15:18 |
| janimo | yay git | 15:18 |
| janimo | 2:1 | 15:18 |
| ppisati | ah, dunno | 15:19 |
| Daviey | rbasak: Around? | 15:19 |
| ppisati | perhaps he will move to West Europe/US? :) | 15:19 |
| rbasak | Daviey: yes! | 15:20 |
| NCommander | anytihng else or should move on? | 15:20 |
| ppisati | move | 15:20 |
| ogra_ | go | 15:20 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | 15:20 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | ||
| ogra_ | horrid ! | 15:20 |
| ogra_ | wrt universe | 15:20 |
| janimo | given back a few packages | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | main looks okayish | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | i went through all ftbfs logs the last days | 15:21 |
| janimo | nothing actually changed/fixed but that | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | 70-80% of the arm ftbfs are GLES stuff | 15:21 |
| NCommander | On the OMAP3 side, netboot remains broken, fix there should be forthcoming today | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | some libavcodec | 15:21 |
| janimo | we probably get to fix pgsql unless upstream is on it | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | and a bunch of qreal | 15:22 |
| janimo | ogasawara, 70-80? I doubt it is that much. I would have thought it is around 30% | 15:22 |
| janimo | needs to be counted :) | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, do you have any std reciepe for GLES issues ? | 15:22 |
| * rsalveti reading | 15:22 | |
| GrueMaster | Guys, check your name tab completion. | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | the ftbfs wikipage could need some code examples etc | 15:22 |
| janimo | ogra_, I think those apps need porting to GLES or have that code disabled. | 15:22 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: not for now, planned to discuss at UDS | 15:23 |
| janimo | it is very app specific | 15:23 |
| rsalveti | because the apps need porting | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | janimo, well, if its just: change dep, switch configure options and build ... | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | some apps have gles support | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | but haent got it enabled | 15:23 |
| NCommander | on OMAP4, I've been grinding away at updating partman-uboot/partman-reciepes for the last week and some before I went for vacation | 15:23 |
| * ogra_ resarched some of them | 15:23 | |
| NCommander | Its 95% working but still has some odds and ends. I've talked to skaet about it, and I'm expecting it to land tonight/tomorrow | 15:24 |
| janimo | ogra_, the Qt ones cannot work as they use GLES and OPENGL in the same time | 15:25 |
| janimo | and those are quite a few | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | right | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | i mean the ones that are ported upstream but where the build behaves like on x86 | 15:25 |
| rsalveti | don't believe we have much of those still | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | not many, but a few | 15:26 |
| rsalveti | most of the issues are from the qt gl x gles issue | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | stellarium is a prominent one | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | and there are a few others | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | anyway, i dont want to slow the meeting | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, move :) | 15:27 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | 15:28 |
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| ogra_ | so so ... | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | we had some issues with the build system that hopefully shoudl be resolved | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | lamont, replaced something on annonaceae since then omap and mx5 builds seem to hang | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | i pinged him but he doesnt seem to be around, i'll hunt down someone else from IS later | 15:29 |
| ogra_ | ac100 images build and install fine, mx5 should be building fine too now | 15:30 |
| janimo | ogra_, so the lack of today's images is due to above breakage? | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | oh and archive skew costed us three days of images this week | 15:30 |
| janimo | indeed ac100 is working fine | 15:30 |
| janimo | nice, less than it costs on average :) | 15:30 |
| * NCommander whacks janimo | 15:30 | |
| ogra_ | janimo, yes, annonaceae doesnt build anything apparently, i suspect an ssh key was replaced or so | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, anything to add for the server or netinst images | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | ? | 15:31 |
| NCommander | just the previous methoned partman-uboot hacking for OMAP3/4, and the f-k fix | 15:32 |
| ogra_ | move then :) | 15:33 |
| NCommander | [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh) | 15:33 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh) | ||
| GrueMaster | All kernel SRU testing for systems on life support completed this week. | 15:33 |
| GrueMaster | Most of the testing for server is no finished, at least for a once over. | 15:33 |
| GrueMaster | My only beagleXM has an odd issue with the latest x-loader/u-boot where it will no longer connect to the network. Driver loads, but it will not show a link. | 15:34 |
| GrueMaster | Using the Natty versions works fine. | 15:34 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: were you able to test with linaro's kernel? | 15:35 |
| ppisati | my xm rev a1 works ok with O u-boot | 15:35 |
| GrueMaster | not yet. Had to reimage (I was running a cryptfs and linaro doesn't support that). | 15:35 |
| GrueMaster | Will test linaro kernel today. | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | MMlosh in #ubuntu-arm reported the same NIC issue | 15:36 |
| GrueMaster | Also plan on doing some deep desktop image testing for the rest of the week, as I have done little on that this cycle. | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | but he is on natty and just using the oneiric kernel | 15:36 |
| GrueMaster | interesting. | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | so i'm not sure it isnt userspace | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | but indeed intresting that you see the same | 15:37 |
| GrueMaster | mahmoh: anything to add? | 15:38 |
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| mahmoh | GrueMaster: nothing except that you're doing a bang up job | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | and he is also our best supporter in #ubuntu-arm | 15:38 |
| NCommander | [topic] Linaro Updates (rsalveti) | 15:38 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Linaro Updates (rsalveti) | ||
| * rsalveti waves | 15:38 | |
| rsalveti | well, not much that touches oneiric | 15:39 |
| rsalveti | first version of gcc-linaro packages | 15:39 |
| rsalveti | to be available at the toolchain backports PPA | 15:39 |
| rsalveti | to help testing toolchain issues and validating the gcc-linaro later on | 15:39 |
| rsalveti | on-going debugging on LTTng 2.x | 15:40 |
| rsalveti | first time we're trying to make it work with ARM | 15:40 |
| rsalveti | good thing is that we don't have a lot of kernel dependencies as before | 15:40 |
| rsalveti | hope to make it work properly this time | 15:40 |
| rsalveti | looking to try to get bug 669641 fixed at the linaro-kernels atm | 15:41 |
| GrueMaster | Is there a plan to integrate x-loader with u-boot for omap next cycle? Also, PXE would be nice, since the code is there. | 15:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 669641 in linux (Ubuntu) "systemtap fails to discover installed debug modules" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/669641 | 15:41 |
| rsalveti | then push it to ubuntu-kernel once the fix is available and working | 15:41 |
| janimo | nice | 15:41 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: yup, in theory SPL already works for OMAP | 15:41 |
| rsalveti | we'll validate it for this cycle, so for P it should work the same way | 15:41 |
| janimo | bye bye xloader | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | well, not completely | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | yet | 15:42 |
| rsalveti | but at least for next cycle for sure :-) | 15:42 |
| NCommander | anything else? | 15:42 |
| rsalveti | and on-going multi-arch fixes in place to get firefox cross buildable | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | well you still keep MLO | 15:43 |
| rsalveti | sure, but the main issue was how x-loader was maintained | 15:43 |
| rsalveti | that's the next step | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | indeed | 15:43 |
| janimo | ogra_, yes, but no more extra packages that we need to keep remembering the names of | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, nothing from me | 15:43 |
| rsalveti | that's most from my side | 15:43 |
| janimo | thanks rsalveti | 15:44 |
| NCommander | [topic] AOB | 15:44 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| ogra_ | erm | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | what about blueprints ?? werent we supposed to have a topic for that today ? | 15:44 |
| GrueMaster | erm? | 15:44 |
| * ogra_ thought davidm wanted to discuss them today | 15:45 | |
| davidm_ | Yes, I did want to see a review of bp | 15:45 |
| davidm_ | I'm on a call that I can 't break from | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | davidm, lets do it on the call then | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | for the community: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/PBlueprintIdeas oin case you have ideas to add for us :) | 15:45 |
| davidm_ | But I would like to see the team review the BP page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/PBlueprintIdeas | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | lets go over them then | 15:46 |
| davidm_ | The page is scheduled to lock soonish | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | say 19th at the top schedule :) | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | *says | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | ah, no, even 3rd | 15:47 |
| GrueMaster | Actually, I think it is the 3rd that it locks. | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | i slipped a row | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | forst one is "Implement an ARM Server Kernel for Server Hardware" | 15:47 |
| GrueMaster | At any rate. Shall I list them and we can beat^h^H^Hdiscuss them? | 15:48 |
| rbasak | Is that a kernel flavour, like server and virtual? | 15:48 |
| GrueMaster | Server kernel makes sense once we have a server platform. | 15:48 |
| mahmoh | will this have to be per platform? | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | i guess that actually depends on having server hardware :) | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, oh, feel free | 15:49 |
| * ogra_ steps back | 15:49 | |
| ogra_ | rbasak, yes, the -server kernel uses a few different config options | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | mahmoh, well, it hads to be for the "server platform" | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | it doesnt make sense to put a fulltime person on a server kernel without having server HW | 15:49 |
| mahmoh | and arm should have its own configs on top of that | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | and i guess it will be a good part of a fulltime job | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | (split across kernel and QA) | 15:50 |
| GrueMaster | Arm Server kernel build configuration and tuning -- Should combine with previous. | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | i think we all agree that we want such a kernel but we need HW first | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | else it is a waste of efforts | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, ++ | 15:51 |
| GrueMaster | Unified OMAP3/OMAP4 install images | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | though we should probably have a general kernel configuration session | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | (covering the config handling for arm in general) | 15:52 |
| GrueMaster | How would this work? Same kernel/u-boot? Is it possible? | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | unified images can only work if we have unified MLO and u-boot | 15:52 |
| GrueMaster | And kernel. | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | kernel should already be possible i think | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | but indeed not if we go on with the TI patches which we have to | 15:53 |
| GrueMaster | * All ARM headless images are based on Ubuntu Core, | 15:53 |
| * ogra_ just nods | 15:53 | |
| janimo | GrueMaster, kernel is unified in linaro | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | move :P | 15:53 |
| janimo | uboot to be explored, part of the purpose of the BP | 15:53 |
| GrueMaster | oops, missed the wrap. | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | we dont have headless atm ... if it comes back it will be based on core ... done | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | All ARM headless images are based on Ubuntu Core, | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | except for specific ARM Server Images | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | not really a spec | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | rather a "this is what we will use if it comes back" | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | * Explore Codezero Embedded Hypervisor Virtulazation on A9 http://www.l4dev.org/ | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | ok | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | This could be fun. | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:55 |
| GrueMaster | * Server Performance Testing incl Storage | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | well, thats just a carry over of the server QA from O | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | or not ? | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | or an extention to it | 15:56 |
| mahmoh | I think storage should be broken out, otherwise this will get big | 15:56 |
| GrueMaster | Need more detail. mahmoh has already been running the phoronix test suite to shake out issues there. | 15:56 |
| GrueMaster | Storage will get tested properly once we have hw that has better support. | 15:56 |
| * ogra_ is sad that there are so many server specs but not many tech improvements or community/desktop specs ... | 15:56 | |
| GrueMaster | * ARM Hard float | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | is that a spec ? | 15:57 |
| NCommander | We're about to runout of time sadly | 15:57 |
| GrueMaster | It's because we have already rocked the desktop. | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | we surely need discussion about it | 15:57 |
| janimo | move to ubuntu-arm ? | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, well, enough ? is the question | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | well, is there a meeting after us ? | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | but yeah, else move to -arm and finish that | 15:58 |
| NCommander | I'm not sure | 15:58 |
| GrueMaster | * Orchestra/Ensemble on ARM | 15:58 |
| * ogra_ wonders whats arm specific there | 15:58 | |
| GrueMaster | deployment issues apparently. | 15:59 |
| mahmoh | * Orchestra/Juju on ARM | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | but then i dont know enough about it ... though i thought its a management tool | 15:59 |
| NCommander | noone elseis here (and actually, the frdge event for the meeting still says Mobile and Tuesday) | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | lol | 15:59 |
| GrueMaster | * Linaro ARM Boot | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | whats that ? | 15:59 |
| GrueMaster | BTHOOM | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | there are a bunch of boot related things in our build system i would like to change | 16:00 |
| GrueMaster | (beats the hell out of me) | 16:00 |
| janimo | boot speed maybe? | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | so having some info what "linaro boot" means would be nice | 16:00 |
| GrueMaster | * KVM on ARM | 16:00 |
| * GrueMaster cringes | 16:00 | |
| ogra_ | hehe | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | you asked for it :P | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | we could also add "libvirt on arm" :) | 16:01 |
| GrueMaster | No, I didn't. I asked for tests to be written for bare metal, then adapted for kvm, not vice versa. | 16:01 |
| davidm_ | we should add libvirt | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | argh, that was a joke ! | 16:01 |
| NCommander | heh | 16:01 |
| * ogra_ looks for duct tape for his nasty mouth | 16:01 | |
| rbasak | It needs to happen eventually! | 16:01 |
| GrueMaster | * Server System management on ARM - IPMI | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | how is that different to the juju spec ?? | 16:02 |
| GrueMaster | rbasak: So does a solution for bug 1 | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | does it make sense to have two of them ? | 16:02 |
| rbasak | :-) | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | i think we could merge them in one | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | same for kvm/libvirt | 16:02 |
| GrueMaster | * QA Develop automation tests that can run without kvm support (i.e. on raw hardware). | 16:03 |
| GrueMaster | har! | 16:03 |
| ogra_ | hehe, attacking the kvm spec :) | 16:03 |
| NCommander | spec to spec combat! | 16:04 |
| rbasak | There is a plan to help with that I think | 16:04 |
| GrueMaster | I think this is beneficial, because I am always finding bugs on raw hw that don't manifest on kvm. | 16:04 |
| rbasak | Get nova to be able to launch metal instances from a pool of available metal | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 16:04 |
| rbasak | (maybe via LXC) | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | sounds trivial | 16:04 |
| GrueMaster | * Revisit Server QA tests from Oneiric, enhance and update as needed. | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | given that we already implemented that :) | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | (as the panda cluster) | 16:05 |
| rbasak | does that use nova? | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | never heard of nova | 16:06 |
| GrueMaster | A lot of the tests this round were random (and some have no tests in any arch). | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | well, iirc in budapest is was said that this cycle was to determine a better set of tests | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | so thats an expected follwoup i guess | 16:06 |
| GrueMaster | * Compare kernel configs with x86/amd64 configs for for module differences (NFS, VFAT, etc) | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | shoudl become a general kernel config spec | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | for arm indeed :) | 16:08 |
| GrueMaster | I ran into a lot of qa kernel SRU tests that fail simply because some modules are compiled =Y as opposed to =m. | 16:08 |
| GrueMaster | And I also had to postpone some tests because of missing modules. | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | and we have a good bunch of differences to x86 as well | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | so we should do a general review | 16:09 |
| GrueMaster | * One consumer device per cycle programme | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | yay | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | so my idea is that we enable one enduser device per cycle | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | preferably one that is close to images we already have indeed | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | and that the community can chose which device that is | 16:10 |
| janimo | GrueMaster, would be good to have a list of features failing unless modules | 16:10 |
| GrueMaster | I disagree on this, only because we got bogged down on 1 and played hot potato with the other. | 16:10 |
| janimo | I was thinking of trying to build in as many as possible for bootup speed | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, bogged down ? | 16:10 |
| janimo | but if it some do not work it'd be good to know ahead | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | we have ac100 images now ... and we could have nook ones if you had had the time | 16:11 |
| GrueMaster | How long have you been working on ac100? | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | the plan is to deeply involve the community here | 16:11 |
| janimo | we could have 5 images per cycle if we had better build tools honestly | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | ac100 isnt comparable | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | i had to invent a totally new image type for it | 16:11 |
| janimo | the time spent is not as much coding but debugging the innards of the build system | 16:11 |
| GrueMaster | Problem with nook images is lack of touch screen keyboard in ubiquity. | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | eaily solved :) | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | *easily | 16:12 |
| ogra_ | you didnt tell me | 16:12 |
| mahmoh | the idea is a good one, maybe choose a family of similar products and then a target to work from | 16:12 |
| GrueMaster | I was just saying once we get the tools shacken out, we shouldn't limit it to one. | 16:12 |
| janimo | ogra_, I doubt the community has better chances of getting something up with cdimage/debian-cd as they are used now | 16:12 |
| ogra_ | anyway, we can discuss that later, thats my spec proposal and the masterplan is actually to grow community | 16:12 |
| NCommander | +1 | 16:12 |
| janimo | but we need the community for upstream work (kernel etc) and testing | 16:12 |
| GrueMaster | Sounds good. | 16:12 |
| ogra_ | janimo, thats the part we should be offering | 16:12 |
| ogra_ | debian-cd/cdimage stuff | 16:13 |
| janimo | as they are now they are... juju | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | the community still needs to supply the external bits | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | anyway, lets do details later and let NCommander close the meeting :) | 16:13 |
| NCommander | closing in 3 | 16:14 |
| NCommander | 2 | 16:14 |
| NCommander | 1 | 16:14 |
| NCommander | #endmeeting | 16:14 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Sep 15 16:14:16 2011 UTC. | 16:14 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-09-15-15.01.moin.txt | 16:14 |
| ogra_ | *clap clap clap* | 16:14 |
| janimo | hear you later | 16:14 |
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| cyphermox | tenach, JoeVancouver, jedijf, Z37A, JoseeAntonioR: just checking if you're all there ;) | 23:55 |
| JoeVancouver | I am here :) | 23:55 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I am here! | 23:55 |
| Z37A | I'm here | 23:55 |
| cyphermox | awesome. we'll start soon | 23:56 |
| JoseeAntonioR | jedijf is in the channel list, so he should be here | 23:56 |
| cyphermox | yup | 23:56 |
| jedijf | i is | 23:56 |
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