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micahgLaney: opencv finished, I'm testing wallch with the changes04:20
micahglenios: so, asm3 doesn't even build in oneiric04:25
micahgLaney: new opencv uploaded, so in ~5-6 hours you should be able to retry your build04:40
micahgLaney: I mean no-change-rebuild opencv, not new :)04:40
dholbachgood morning06:44
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Laneymicahg: oh, cool. wallch worked then08:15
Laney?08:16
micahgLaney: hmm, failed in LP worked locally, maybe it didn't publish, trying again08:16
Laneyhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=64167008:19
ubottuDebian bug 641670 in docky "docky: Spelling Error" [Minor,Open]08:19
* Laney giggles08:19
micahgLaney: wallch finished, so go ahead and retry yours08:31
Laneyokey dokes08:31
Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdecodeqr/0.9.3-5ubuntu1/+build/278420108:33
Laneykeep an eagle eye out08:33
micahgwe08:34
micahgerr, we'll see how much longer I'm awake, but will check in the morning08:34
leniosbuild of asm3 lacking mh_clean...08:45
Laneymicahg: yeah, looks like it worked08:50
Laneygood call08:50
micahgawesome08:50
leniosi can get the latest asm3 build, but i need to remove the mh_clean added in debian/rules (which is said to clean up after the maven helpers)08:55
lenioslooks like maven-repo-helper >= 1.5 is needed to use mh_clean09:00
leniosand oneiric only have 1.209:00
micahgso, basically eclipse needs to go in a PPA for oneiric09:09
lenioswait, maven-repo-helper is actually 1.5.2 in oneiric09:09
leniosi think i can put it in my ppa09:11
lenioswhat i don't know is why asm3 building is not finding maven-repo-helper even if it's in Build-Depends-Indep. I do have to install the package on my machine09:14
Laneyhow are you building it?09:29
leniosi install maven-repo-helper (i don't know why it doesn't work without it), and then use pbuilder and pdebuild09:31
Laneyyou sometimes need extra packages to run a clean target09:34
leniosand how do i specify extra packages when uploading to ppa?09:45
Laneyby "run a clean target" I meant in order to build the source package on your machine09:46
Laneydpkg-buildpackage -S or similar09:46
Laneyif you need to add extra packages then put them in build-depends(-indep)09:47
Laneylenios: I just built asm3 and it worked just fine09:50
Laneytry pbuilder build asm3_3.3.2-1.dsc09:51
leniosthere's no problem with 3.3.2?09:51
leniosyou mean 3.2?09:51
leniostry http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/asm3/asm3_3.3.1-1.dsc09:52
leniosi don't have any issues with latest ubuntu (3.2) but they added an mh_clean in debian/rules in the 3.3.109:52
Laneywhat release are you trying to build on?09:53
leniosi dget the debian dsc and try to build on oneiric09:53
leniosit works... only if i install maven-repo-helper before using pbuilder09:53
Laneywhat /exact/ commands are you using?09:54
Laney3.3.1 works fine too.09:54
Laney(I am using sbuild as opposed to pbuilder though)09:54
leniosusing pdebuild with http://pastebin.com/wqz3buBy09:55
Laneynever used it, but I suspect that the problem is you need maven-repo-helper and/or ant installed to build the source package. This happens /outside/ of pbuilder.09:58
lenioswould it work on ppa?09:58
Laneythat's why I suggested just doing pbuilder build ...dsc09:58
Laneyshould do09:59
leniospbuilder build ...dsc works for me too10:03
Laneygreat10:03
Laneyso what happens is that when you build a source package, the clean target from debian/rules is invoked, and sometimes this needs extra packages10:03
leniosi see10:04
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jtaylorhm how does one do a bzr-merge-upstream when the patches are applied in the branch?16:49
jtayloras the new upstream may conflict with the patches16:50
jtaylorwhy does bzr do this, it only causes me problems and I don't see any advantage ..16:51
tumbleweeddo what? applied patches?16:59
jtayloryes16:59
tumbleweedbecause then bzr can manage them. Yes it's currentyl very not-ideal17:00
tumbleweedeventually they should be managed as a patch queue17:00
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jtaylorgna, what should be a 2 minute operation turns into 30 minutes, screw bzr I'll make a debdiff17:12
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tumbleweed:)17:13
Laneybecause of .pc conflicts?17:13
cjwatsonjtaylor: quilt pop -a; bzr merge --force; while quilt push; do quilt refresh; done17:15
jtayloryes but verifing the patch is unecessarilty painful17:15
cjwatsonWFM17:15
jtaylorbtw force does nto seem to work with merge-upstream17:23
cjwatsonjtaylor: no - that's a bug I think17:49
micahgjtaylor: heh, Debian just uploaded a fixed version of tahoe-lafs19:26
jtayloryes talk about bad timing ._.19:26
jtaylorI'll take care of syncing it next cycle19:26
Laneyis there a diff left?19:32
jtaylornothing worth syncing19:32
jtaylorand I don't want to check the package again for screwups ._.19:33
jtaylorwell I might also bug someone from sr to fix it in natty ._.19:36
jtaylorit never ends with that package19:36
micahgjtaylor: I was wondering if you fixed that with the security upload19:36
jtaylorI was thinking about doing it19:37
jtaylorhmm I should ahve added the missing mock dep ...19:37
micahgright :)19:38
jtaylorthat only fixes 50% but saves another upload19:38
micahgjtaylor: what do you mean 50%?19:38
jtaylorthere are two issues19:38
jtaylormock is the easy one19:38
jtaylor well the one where upstream does not disagree with me19:39
jtaylorfor solving the pycryptopp issue there are two possibilities19:40
jtaylorthe screw some users which have some broken corner case non package managed installation19:40
jtayloror update a package in an sru19:40
* ScottK votes SRU21:13
ScottKSecurity updates should be a minimal change, so two uploads is appropriate in any case.21:14
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* davidsarah catches up22:37
davidsarahso that's all fixed in http://packages.debian.org/sid/tahoe-lafs 1.8.3-2, right?22:55
* davidsarah checks the Ubuntu packages22:58
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davidsarahhmm. I have tahoe-lafs 1.7.1 installed on Maverick. I run Update Manager and install everything it prompts about. shouldn't that apply the security fix?23:06
davidsarahit doesn't23:06
davidsarahI'm not prompted to install any new tahoe-lafs package23:06
ajmitchdavidsarah: pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy tahoe-lafs' - launchpad says it was published 3 hours ago23:09
* ajmitch can see the package on security.ubuntu.com, too23:10
davidsarahhttp://codepad.org/PnsARp1P23:21
* davidsarah looks on security.ubuntu.com23:21
ajmitchthat is the version that was uploaded a few hours ago by jtaylor23:21
davidsarahreally?23:21
ajmitchhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tahoe-lafs/1.7.1-0ubuntu1.123:21
davidsarahI grepped for the fix23:22
* davidsarah checks they didn't make a mistake doing that23:22
ajmitchdiff between -0ubuntu1 & -0ubuntu1.1 is on the page if you want to check that23:22
davidsarahoh, it is updated23:24
davidsarahwhy didn't my original grep find that?23:24
* ajmitch shrugs23:25
ajmitchas long as it is really fixed now? :)23:25
davidsarahstill checking23:26
davidsarahyes, it is fixed23:27
ajmitchgreat23:28
davidsarahbut why didn't I see a summary of the update in Update Manager?23:28
ajmitchI don't know what parts are involved in update manager listing changelogs23:28
davidsarahit didn't mention that tahoe-lafs was being updated at all23:30
davidsarah(but it was, because I ran the same 'grep -Rn fills-holes /usr/share/pyshared/allmydata' command before and after running Update Manager, so it had not already been updated)23:30
ajmitchdon't know, sorry, I don't tend to use update-manager23:30
davidsarahI used it because I figured that is what a non-developer/techie user might use, and I wanted to see what they would see23:31
ajmitchit could depend on when it had checked for updates, if you'd checked automatically, and if security updates are set to install automatically23:31
davidsarahI didn't explicitly turn on any automatic updating, and I tend to turn off options like that if I see them23:32
broderchangelogs are fetched from a separate server. there at least used to be a delay between archive publishing and changelog generation. i don't know if there still is23:33
ajmitchbroder: the package should still appear in u-m even if there's no changelog23:34
davidsarahyes, that's what I thought23:34
brodersummary of the update> i thought you were referring to the description section23:34
ajmitch"Install security updates without confirmation" is an option in software sources, I don't know if it's the default23:34
davidsarahI was referring to the top pane23:35
* davidsarah looks whether that is set23:35
broderyou...did click the "check" button, right?23:35
davidsarahyes23:35
brodermight just have not gotten to your mirror yet23:35
ajmitchright, but it is installed now, somehow :)23:36
davidsarahyes, but I'm trying to understand why the package... what ajmitch said23:36
broder...oh, i see. that's what i get for not paying attention23:36
ajmitchso I was trying to figure out if it was silently installed, but I don't know update-manager's behaviour23:37
broderyou could go look in /var/log/apt/23:37
davidsarahoh, /var/log/apt/history.log does include: tahoe-lafs:amd64 (1.7.1-0ubuntu1, 1.7.1-0ubuntu1.1)23:39
davidsarahmaybe I just missed it in the list of updates23:39

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