[00:13] cr3 is gone, but ask again tomorrow. [00:26] join #windows-server === SJrX is now known as SJr === fenris is now known as Guest90959 === avoine_ is now known as avoine === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen === Guest86261 is now known as CrazyGir [01:30] Hi, i'm working on setting up a friend with ubuntu, but I can't seem to get the wireless up and running, it looks like the driver is good, but i'm no expert - anyone willing to walk me through this? Thanks [01:35] the_fool: join the #ubuntu channel and I will help you there [01:54] I'm having a problem with shutdown and reboot not waiting for a shutdown script to complete. i verified it's being run. i assumed the system would wait for each K script to complete. is this not the case? [02:00] cjs226: I think it kill scripts after a certain time, I'm not sure [02:01] cjs226: the timeout is 5 seconds by default -> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#kill-timeout [02:01] ah, that explains it. THANKS! === Guest90959 is now known as ejat [02:08] cjs226: when you say the "K" scripts .. what # is it receiving in /etc/rc0.d ? [02:09] cjs226: there is definitely no timeout for those scripts.. they are run one after the other [02:10] i have it as K01 in rc0, 2 and 6 [02:11] what's the best procedure to impliment an app's shutdown script such that it has time to shutdown gracefully. for me i need a minute and a half [02:12] cjs226: it should work to just have the K script in there [02:13] cjs226: note that it needs an S script in the previous runlevel as well, or it won't be killed as the system won't think it was running [02:13] spamaps: ok, i'll test that, thx [02:14] cjs226: typically the defaults given to a script by update-rc.d work fine [02:14] cjs226: note that if you switch to an upstart script, you want 'stop on starting rc RUNLEVEL=[016]' [02:14] otherwise the system will only wait about 10 seconds for it to stop [02:14] (known bug) [02:15] cjs226: good luck [02:15] * SpamapS signs off for a bit [02:15] thx, appreciate it! [03:41] New bug: #850587 in cloud-init (main) "cloud-init fails to install if /tmp directory is noexec" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850587 [03:46] Daviey: FYI, update-notifier-common (which lets you know you need to reboot your server in motd) used to be in the default server install in lucid http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.lucid/server, but got dropped for maverick and later. [03:47] Daviey: are you sure that it should have been dropped? [03:48] do I need to run seahorse with sudo to use it? and I get a gnome-keyring communication failure error. === WinstonSmith is now known as ermmmmmmmmmmms === ermmmmmmmmmmms is now known as WinstonSmith === WinstonSmith is now known as ermmmmmmmmmmms === ermmmmmmmmmmms is now known as WinstonSmith [06:33] Like an idiot, I just blew away the squid init script (/etc/init.d/squid). How do I get apt / aptitude to reinstall it? [06:40] sergevn: is it bad that rmmod iwlagn inside a container removes the module successfully ? [06:42] sergevn: sorry, wrong serge ;) [06:42] hallyn: is it bad that rmmod iwlagn inside a container removes the module successfully ? [06:59] Corey: sudo apt-get purge squid then sudo apt-get install squid and you'll get it back. [06:59] what about dpkg-reconfigure? wouldn't that do the trick? [07:00] No. [07:01] When you manually remove the file, dpkg will assume that means you didn't want it until you purge and then it forgets you did that. [07:02] lifeless: You need to drop the sys_module capability. [07:03] * soren runs off for a half hour or so [07:06] ScottK: Thanks. Unfortuantely as it turns out this is Ubuntu 6.xx, so those packages aren't available anymore. Whoops. [07:06] Corey: They are on old-releases.ubuntu.com [07:06] You really should upgrade though. [07:07] You'll just need to adjust /etc/apt/sources.list to point at it. [07:09] ScottK: Not my choice. [07:09] OK. [07:09] ScottK: And thanks. :-) [07:09] You're welcome. [07:09] ScottK: Unfortunately the client's preferences eclipse my own. [07:09] I know how that is. [07:10] They should hire me to tell them they're wrong. [07:10] ;-) [07:10] ScottK: They've already done that with me. ;-) [07:10] ScottK: Mind if I ask what your contribution was that got you Ubuntu membership? [07:10] Development. [07:11] It was also in 2007, so things have changed a bit. [07:20] soren: probably dhouldn't be on by default :) [07:31] New bug: #338766 in vm-builder (universe) "vm-builder should support proxy servers" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/338766 [07:36] New bug: #850672 in nut (main) ""port = auto" does not work with bcmxcp_usb (powerware 5115)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850672 [07:47] lifeless: How are you running your containers? [07:47] lifeless: Using libvirt or lxctools? [07:48] soren: lxc-start ... [07:48] hi. who handles php these days? :-) [07:49] Nafallo: noone :) [07:49] lifeless: heh [07:50] I had to "upgrade" to the packages from sid on an oneiric server yesterday because our php5-sqlite only has sqlite3 support :-P [07:50] and sid had a different ABI [07:50] lifeless: bug 850687 [07:50] Launchpad bug 850687 in lxc "Should disable cap_module by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850687 [07:51] thanks :) [07:51] Nafallo: And what did you need (if not sqlite3)= [07:51] ? [07:51] soren: sqlite [07:51] (sqlite2) [07:52] I had no idea anyone still used that for anything. [07:52] roundcube wanted it at the very least ;-) [07:52] probably pastebin.ubuntu.com [07:53] Nafallo: I've only ever used roundcube with MySQL :-/ [07:54] I bet there are more things, but it took me a good while to figure out and "work around" it :-P [07:54] lifeless: If it helps at all, libvirt does it correctly (removes CAP_SYS_MODULE). [07:54] soren: cool [07:54] soren: [it doesn't, but cool] [07:54] Nafallo: Erm, i thought it was an effort this cycle for us to remove sqlite support? [07:55] Or at least, get it out of main [07:56] Daviey: well, not haivng a working roundcube-sqlite package would be a regression :-) [07:56] Nafallo: Sure, fancy fixing roundcube? [07:57] Daviey: I tried to find out if I could convince it to use sqlite3 yesterday, and restorted to upgrading from sid.... just saying. [07:57] I'd rather have php5-sqlite in universe with libsqlite dependency (if main is the reason we can't have working things) [07:59] alternatively we could have php5-sqlite and php5-sqlite3 [07:59] Nafallo: I think you are calling for php5-sqlite to be a seperate source package. [07:59] having php5-sqlite being only sqlite3 wasn't helpful :-P [08:00] source/binary.. whatever works. [08:01] New bug: #850687 in lxc (main) "Should disable cap_module by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850687 [08:04] Nafallo: fancy trying http://www.roundcubeforum.net/3-news-announcements/12-general-discussion/4954-making-sqlite-3-x-work.html , but see if you can avoid using pear? [08:04] Although, why you'd use sqlite over mysql is a mystery to me :) [08:05] Daviey: I fancy a working setup OOTB. that's why I run Ubuntu. [08:05] Nafallo: Hang on, you use the development release of Ubuntu to have stability. You are doing it wrong, [08:05] I assumed you were running the development version to help fix issues before release. [08:05] and since it took me half a year to get round to setting up a new VM and install roundcube, not in a 11.10 timeframe ;-) [08:06] Daviey: yes. issues like the one I ran into and that we are talking about :-) [08:06] I always try to run the development version when and where it's convenient for me to do so [08:07] New bug: #850690 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8.4 failed to install/upgrade: there is no script in the new version of the package - giving up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850690 [08:08] Nafallo: Sorry.. Looks like you are sad out of luck then.. Happy to help you fix this issue, but we don't have the time to fix it for you. [08:08] right. okay. [08:12] the issue is obviously one created by Ubuntu, since Debian doesn't have this problem, but yeah... I won't get much done by whining about this here :-) [08:14] a3:) [08:14] ;) [08:14] Ops. [08:15] Hey Nafallo [08:15] hi matti [08:18] hi all [08:20] Nafallo: you have been around long enough to know how this works :).. Have you even raised a bug? [08:21] Daviey: yes, and I plan to do so again ;-) [08:22] Nafallo: What is the bug number? [08:23] Daviey: sorry, but I tend to discuss before raising them. it is currently scheduled for this evening when I get home from work. [08:25] Nafallo: Okay, give me a ping when there is a patch attached... and we'll get it fixed! [08:25] rocking. [08:26] Daviey: udeb work - libcurl3-minimal-udeb looking OK - going to look at xmlrpc-c-minimal today [08:26] (and good morning BTW) [08:26] Daviey: didn't say I'd get time to do any patching mate... [08:27] Gooooood Morning jamespage [08:27] jamespage: You sir, are a life saver. [08:29] Nafallo: Oh sure, branches are equally as good. [08:32] hey Daviey jamespage [08:35] morning all o/ [08:36] hey koolhead11 & lynxman [08:38] morning koolhead11, lynxman [08:38] Daviey, jamespage o/ [08:38] Daviey: so we have to wait for Debian guys to fix the dbconfig bug!! :D [08:41] koolhead11: oh noes.. What one? [08:42] Daviey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/dbconfig-common/+bug/807038 [08:42] :D [08:42] Launchpad bug 807038 in dbconfig-common "dbconfig-common fails to preseed phpmyadmin on natty/lucid" [Medium,New] [08:43] looking [08:44] grr [08:45] :) [08:49] koolhead11: From yesterday, the problem seems to be that my machine inside kvm doing netboot off oneiric server b1 isn't picking up a virtio disk, so it is giving me an iscsi option only [08:49] Is this expected - is there a different image I'm supposed to be using? [08:50] rbasak: no there is no saperate image for KVM AFAIK [08:51] rbasak: i would suggest check KOAN as well [08:51] koolhead11: AIUI, doesn't koan only help if I already have a machine installed? [08:52] * rbasak tries using a SCSI bus instead [08:52] rbasak: i would suggest please check it. As i have not worked on/with KVM i have tried cobbler for my physical machines. It be great if after the test you will blog about the same. :) [08:58] hmm - tomcat6 is not in the ubuntu-server packageset - how odd.... [08:59] rbasak: you need RoAkSoAx - he demoed what you are trying todo at UDS-O [09:00] jamespage: +1 yeah :D [09:00] jamespage: even there is no openjdk-6-jre which jenkins depends on :( [09:00] smoser also worked on doing it slightly differently. [09:02] koolhead11: in oneiric? it depends on default-jre-headless which should pickup the right java [09:02] rbasak: check out lp:~smoser/+junk/cobbler-devenv [09:02] The how-to might be of use. [09:03] Daviey: any chance you could sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/ubuntu/oneiric/tomcat6/CVE-2011-3190/+merge/75495 - whilst I work on xmlrpc-c-minimal [09:03] jamespage: Certain AJP protocol connector implementations in Apache Tomcat 7.0.0 through 7.0.20, 6.0.0 through 6.0.33, 5.5.0 through 5.5.33, and possibly other versions allow remote attackers to spoof AJP requests, bypass authentication, and obtain sensitive information by causing the connector to interpret a request body as a new request. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-3190) [09:03] jamespage: so i should not install openjdk-6-jre on my oneiric clients ? [09:03] koolhead11: sorry - are you talking about jenkins slaves or a jenkins master? [09:03] jamespage: slaves :D [09:04] koolhead11: try the jenkins-slave package - it installs the right bits for you [09:05] supports both running via SSH from the master OR starting up locally and connecting to the master server [09:05] jamespage: Have a call starting now, but right after - sure [09:05] jamespage: is it in the ISO, base pkg ? [09:05] koolhead11: nope - jenkins is all in universe [09:05] jamespage: ok :( [09:06] i don`t have internet at time am running cobbler. seems like i have to do this just after machine gets provisoned [09:07] i have simple ISO of oneiric which feeds as repo for me [09:09] anyways am back to my LDAP love, catch you guys later. === koolhead11 is now known as koolhead11|afk [09:10] LDAP 'love'? Hmm, i'm yet to find that. [09:13] hi [09:26] It seems that both virtio and scsi don't work for cobbler+kvm - but ide emulation is OK [09:27] Daviey: how do we test all this new udeb stuff? [09:33] jamespage: give me 10, then we'll chat [09:37] Daviey: OK - I have a minimal xmlrpc with udeb working as well now [09:37] all looks OK but it needs review [09:38] jamespage: Where can I see it? [09:45] soren: all branches attached to bug 831496 [09:45] Launchpad bug 831496 in Ubuntu Oneiric "[FFe] Add cobbler enrollment support to server cd image" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831496 [09:46] I've uploaded xmlrpc-c-minimal (NEW) and curl to ppa:james-page/discovery [09:56] New bug: #850771 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850771 [10:04] jamespage: Fancy a call? [10:05] Daviey: one moment [10:05] * Daviey holds himself. [10:06] * Daviey gets on with stuff. [10:12] Daviey: OK now [10:40] Daviey: ldd cobbler-enrol - http://paste.ubuntu.com/689885/ [10:41] I've just uploaded cobbler-enrol to ppa:james-page/discovery [10:42] I might suggest that we move all of the branches to a team location so we can both work on them [10:43] hmm I'd test but I'm not near my cobbler system [10:44] Daviey: I know this is targetted to the ISO but it should be possible todo the same thing from a network PXE boot as well? Could be a menu option for unregistered systems from cobbler [10:47] jamespage: that is the honest primary purpose. [10:47] coolio [10:47] cobbler sending a preseed value for these debconf questions down the wire [11:43] rbasak, most certainly any server kernel we have should support virtio disk [11:44] most likely as modules... maybe you had an out of date iso that you booted from, which would mean the installer does not find a matching kernel module package [11:44] smoser: Ah, I see - so the installer looks for a kernel module package in the archive that matches the image it is using? [11:45] yes. [11:45] but it does give a reasonable error [11:45] I'm using the b1 iso image, so I guess the corresponding module package in the archive is now gone [11:45] somethign like "can't find modules" [11:45] i woudl have thought the beta1 would continue to work, but maybe not [11:45] rbasak, this is the net-install ? [11:45] I saw no error, but probably because of the preseed [11:45] It's whatever cobbler gave me [11:46] yeah, so make sure whatever cobbler has is up to date an dtry again [11:46] there is a command for that [11:46] cobbler-import-ubuntu or something [11:46] or ubuntu-import-cobbler [11:46] somethin like that [11:46] and if that fixes your problem, please open a bug [11:47] it should not be such an issue after release, but i tihnk that it will be an issue... or maybe we should make sure its only going to import the released versions which shoudl work indefinitely [11:47] cobbler-ubuntu-import :-P [11:47] rbasak: If you are using an archive made from the iso, then it should still work. If you are using a public archive, then it will not work :) [11:48] "archive made from the iso" ? [11:48] cobbler does not do that. [11:48] yeah I'm just doing what cobbler did for me [11:48] I imported the b1 iso, that's all. I didn't know about import-ubuntu-cobbler [11:49] smoser: How much do you care about bug 827590 getting fixed in oneiric? [11:49] Launchpad bug 827590 in nova "cloud-init does not mount ephemeral0 on /mnt in nova" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827590 [11:49] smoser: Are you stating that it cannot do that? [11:50] it looks like that should not be an issue after release [11:50] http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/ (those are old [11:50] ) [11:51] Daviey, that is fix-commited [11:51] but i care a lot [11:51] we're picking another nova branch, right ? [11:54] smoser: Erm, it's Fix Committed in Essex.. not Diablo. [11:55] We either need to convince ttx/vish to backport that (note, that it requires a db schema change); or distro patch it ourselves if you think it is essential. [11:56] oh carp. i had forgotten about that. [11:56] we need to pull that stuff back. [11:57] well, i think tha tis worht pulling into ubuntu [11:57] although the db schema change bothers me. [11:57] as we may then need to deal with upgrade issues. [11:57] smoser: Can you try and convince vish and/or ttx that they should carry it upstream? [11:58] yeah. [11:58] smoser: nah, the migrations are pretty safe TBH. [11:58] well, in nova, less so with glance it seems [11:58] but we migh have one that is different [11:58] It's not like this is an SRU schema change. [11:59] ie, our db then would look different to an essex upgrade than diablo pure [11:59] and we'll possibly have to deal with it then [11:59] Daviey, there are some other bugs that i consider serious [11:59] Good point... i think that could be handled.. but we can avoid the headache if it's done upstream :) [11:59] smoser: link me baby [12:00] bug 837100 , bug 837102 [12:00] Launchpad bug 837100 in nova "nova does not uncompress qcow compressed images" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837100 [12:00] smoser: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out [12:00] bug 837102 [12:00] uvirtbot: you suck. [12:00] Launchpad bug 837102 in nova "nova writes libvirt xml 'driver_type' based only on FLAGS.use_cow_images" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837102 [12:00] Daviey: Error: "you" is not a valid command. [12:01] uvirtbot, uvirtbot sucks [12:01] smoser: Error: "uvirtbot" is not a valid command. [12:01] the first there, means we basically have to have the client uncompress the compressed qcow disk images that we create before they upload [12:02] otherwise performance will be abissmal [12:02] urgh [12:03] the second (untested) to me means that if you use a qcow image to upload, and you do not have USE_QCOW flag (which, realistically, no one outside of developement is going to use), then i think app armour will cause kvm to fail [12:03] 837100, seems unlikely to be a candidate for this release IMO. [12:03] i went hunting some yesterday on how to determine if a qcow image is compressed or not. unfortunately, qcow-img does not report that. [12:03] Daviey, that one is easily fixable. but why do you think not a candidate ? [12:04] the most difficult thing is determining if it is compressed or not. [12:04] smoser: Seems to be a feature, rather than an actual bug? [12:04] smoser: does 'file' return that data? [12:05] really? [12:05] you consider not doing cpu decompression on every read to be a feature [12:06] and for the second, you consider having instances not fail to boot to be a feature. [12:07] The cpu decompression to me, seems to be a performance enhancement. [12:07] It currently works without that fix. right? [12:07] just slow. [12:07] I'm not saying it /shouldn't/ be fixed, but is it going to be accepted upstream? [12:07] "my disk reads at 3MB/s" [12:08] "my disk *should* read at 90MB/s" [12:08] "my system is always pegged 100% on 8 CPUS" [12:08] something like that. [12:08] we *can* work around this in cloud-utils. but its a wart. [12:09] ttx: thoughts? [12:11] looking [12:11] ttx, same bugs that i bothered you at in openstack-dev [12:12] * smoser goes to branch milestone-proposed [12:13] Daviey: those bugs look sane -- if the question is "will they be accepted in a diablo backport" it all depends on the impact of the bugfix [12:13] Daviey: so basically they need to be fixed in trunk first [12:13] smoser: yes, cobbler-ubuntu-import fixed it, thanks [12:14] smoser, Daviey: so is that a bug? Do we care? [12:14] Daviey: if the solution is a clean one-liner, it's an obvious YES. If the solution involved a new dependency, a Db version bump and three new undocumented flags... not so much. === ersi_ is now known as ersi [12:15] rbasak, i tihnk its not so much of a bug as i had thought. [12:15] i said above because after release the issue will not occur [12:15] smoser: OK, no problem [12:15] (at least thats my understanding... the lucid iso is 10.04 date-ish, even though we've even released 10.04.1) [12:16] it is freaking annoying, but should only occur on the development release. [12:16] erm, i disagree. It will brak on every kernel ABI bump. [12:16] break* [12:16] no? [12:18] Daviey: I'm not sure. Won't the old modules .deb remain even after an update? [12:19] One potential issue is that the breakage doesn't report any kind of error. Even if the installer is supposed, the default cobbler preseed seems to make sure that it won't. Instead I get a flashing screen and no other info as debian-installer restarts in an infinite loop, and trying to figure out what is going on in a different VT is difficult as the screen won't stop flashing. [12:26] rbasak, how would it break ? [12:26] i dont think it would. [12:26] rbasak: ah, that is new to me. [12:26] look at http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/ [12:27] that is the iso that cobbler-ubuntu-import would pull [12:27] and it has not changed since 10.04 [12:27] meaning it has lucid-release kernel on it [12:27] which is original [12:27] (also meaning you will boot the installer with a security vulnerable kernel though) [12:29] specifically the import pulls http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ [12:29] mini.iso [12:29] lifeless: it's not an inherent problem. cap_sys_module just isn't something that gets dropped by default. To drop it, add 'lxc.cap.drop = sys_module' to /var/lib/lxc//config [12:29] smoser: I mean that if it is broken, then there's no hint as to why [12:29] smoser: I'm not sure that it would break after release [12:29] rbasak, i sweare that when it breaks it leaves you at a ncurses prompt saying "what do you want to do" [12:29] but maybe you're not seeing that because of preseed. [12:30] but i sweare i saw it with preseed. [12:30] smoser: I didn't get that at all. [12:30] yeah. [12:30] but as far as i can tell, that will never be a problem after install [12:30] after release [12:30] but if it is *not* a problem, then we're wasting people's bandwidth because the cobbler input runs weekly i thikn. [12:30] and will continuously download and import the same thing. [12:31] smoser: when I tried to turn off the preseed, I'm not sure to what extent I succeeded but I did get it to tell me that there were no disks and would I like to set up iSCSI - yet no message about missing modules. [12:31] RoAkSoAx, kirkland ^ [12:31] rbasak, i swear it gives a reasonable error.... but its been a long time. [12:31] so i trust your memory more than mine here. [12:31] something must have changed [12:32] or something in my config, but I don't think I've deviated much from what cobbler does from default. I did try cobbler's supplied preseed too [12:35] cjwatson, sorry to bother you, but can you comment on the above? after release will we ever update the netboot iso at $mirror/dists/$rel/main/installer-$ubuntu_arch/current/images/netboot/mini.iso ? [12:38] Say i have a RAID0 of 5 device, i take snapshots of those 5 devices on daily basis. When restoring data, what would be the procedure? restore snapshots on separate 5 devices, assemble a RAID out of those 5 device and copy data that was lost? [12:40] smoser: no, but we deliver updates to $rel-proposed / $rel-updates [12:40] you should probably use $rel-updates if there's something there [12:40] ah... so possibly we should then pull from -updates if there is something [12:40] yeah, but then we'll have the issue above [12:40] with the possibly-no-modules failure [12:40] what issue's that, sorry? failing to parse it from the above [12:41] iso boots, but matching kernel modules package is not in archive [12:41] no modules, fail to install [12:41] err, if that's happening then we have a problem ANYWAY [12:41] really? [12:41] and we need to refresh the installer image [12:41] right [12:41] we> by which I mean I [12:41] but we have a cached installer image in a local cobbler isntall [12:41] ie, user installs cobbler, pulls down a net-iso, it works [12:41] they wait 3 weeks [12:41] it fails [12:42] a quick If-Modified-Since check isn't that hard surely [12:42] well, yes, we could do that. but we dont' actually have a good entry point to do that. [12:42] that seems like something worth fixing then. :) [12:42] :) [12:42] thanks for the info, cjwatson. [12:43] rbasak, so there are 2 issues. [12:43] 1, we're not pulling from -updates and we should be [12:43] 2, if we were, we'd hit this issue after release also [12:43] although, hmm [12:43] thinking about it, we never do NBS runs on post-release pockets at the moment [12:43] so actually, modules udebs for old ABIs never get garbage-collected [12:44] this is sort of a bug but we could refrain from fixing it if it would make life easieer [12:44] *easier [12:44] well they do during devleopment release. [12:44] it would make things easier, yes :) [12:44] yes, but post-release is different [12:44] yeah, i assumed that was the case [12:44] so somewhere i should document this conversation [12:45] thanks again. [12:45] yep, lucid-updates currently has kernel udebs for every ABI from 2.6.32-22 to 2.6.32-33 inclusive [12:45] The Ubuntu cobbler docs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cobbler/Import need to be updated to use cobbler-ubuntu-import. I've been using an ISO I downloaded manually and been getting the breakage that way. In that use case, it seems an issue to me that the installer is pulling the kernel from the ISO (obviously) yet the modules from the archive. [12:46] rbasak: intentional [12:46] you're using a netboot installer image (albeit one shipped on the ISO) not a CD image [12:46] by design that pulls from the network [12:46] I'm happy for people using the development release to have to refresh the installer image frequently [12:47] because the purpose is to test stuff for the next release, so I don't want to put much effort into facilitating people using old code [12:47] OK [12:47] it shouldn't happen that way for a stable release [12:47] (if it is, that's a different matter, but I assume you mean an Oneiric ISO?) [12:48] Yes, I used the ubuntu server oneiric b1 iso [12:49] OK, I think I understand. This would never happen after release since the old module udebs will never be removed, and before release I should be using cobbler-ubuntu-import anyway so it should be a one-command update [12:53] morning [13:01] New bug: #850880 in cobbler (universe) "cobbler-ubuntu-import does not pull from -updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850880 [13:06] New bug: #850886 in cobbler (universe) "cobbler-ubuntu-import results in possibly stale netboot kernels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850886 [13:15] rbasak, Daviey out of above conversation came bug 850886, bug 850880, bug 850892 [13:15] Launchpad bug 850886 in cobbler "cobbler-ubuntu-import results in possibly stale netboot kernels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850886 [13:15] Launchpad bug 850880 in cobbler "cobbler-ubuntu-import does not pull from -updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850880 [13:15] Launchpad bug 850892 in orchestra "orchestra-import-isos does not update" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850892 [13:16] smoser: bah, stop causing bugs.. fix 'em [13:16] ok [13:17] If I set up LDAP auth on a server, and there is already a local user "queso" with a home dir, but the LDAP server also has a "queso" account, what will happen if I try to log in? Does it try local user auth first, then try LDAP auth? [13:17] queso: sounds like something to try? :) [13:18] i woudl suspect ldap would read /etc/passwd first. [13:18] depends on priority in nsswitch.conf, IIRC? [13:18] but thats a guess. [13:18] Daviey: I don't want to just "try" something on a production server, especially when there is no root account to fall back on if LDAP auth is misconfigured. [13:18] gac: aah, okay [13:18] gac is probaly correct. [13:19] queso: no problem, do it on your staging server. [13:19] SpamapS: any idea when the squid packages in -proposed will be released? I want to prepare a security update for squid and don't want to obsolete them... [13:20] queso, smoser, gac: No. [13:20] soren, seriously. i was quite happy with conjecture. please avoid from giving useful and factual information. [13:20] nsswitch is what is used to look up e.g. which username corresponds to the uid of a given file when you do "ls". The order of authentication is all about PAM. [13:21] so those 2 have to be consistent or odd things. [13:21] Err... "what is used to look" should have been "what is used to determine the order for looking" [13:22] (libc handles the actual lookup) [13:24] soren: pam_unix.so refers to using /etc/shadow ? [13:24] queso: So your PAM configuration determines what happens on login. If it looksup in LDAP first and finds your user there, it will assign the UID from LDAP to your login process and that will be your uid. If that matches what's in /Etc/passwd, great. If not... WEll, it'll be fun and interesting. [13:24] queso: Yes. [13:26] soren: okay, perfect. thank you. [13:28] soren: so, by the same logic, when I change my password using passwd, it also uses the pam priority to determine which password to change? === koolhead11|afk is now known as koolhead11 === kentb-afk is now known as kentb [14:05] queso: YEs. [14:07] hey all [14:11] soren: Daviey by any chance there is some bug on mysql nova on oneiric and diablo ? [14:12] i got it working with smiles using sqllite :D [14:15] smoser: rbasak if the mini iso you download does not contain the latest kernel, then the installation is broken, happens all the time [14:15] yes. [14:15] smoser: rbasak there's been situations on which I have downloaded the mini iso the day before and the next day installation is broken due to kernel [14:15] RoAkSoAx: *now* you tell me :-) [14:15] RoAkSoAx, 3 bugs covering that and what we need to do were mentioned up above [14:16]