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ali1234http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46_6aGXY6HU nice01:01
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* czajkowski pokes MooDoo before she leaves for work 06:57
diploMorning all08:14
bigcalmMorning peeps :)08:15
diploseems like it's going to be quiet here today with no talking since czajkowski at 8am08:15
gordyou could propose a topic of conversation ;) that might help08:16
diploSleep?08:21
diploI'm knackered, not dropping off till 3am this morning then work at 8 doesn't bode well08:22
diplo:)08:22
JGJonesGreetings08:23
JamesTaitBonjour, tout le monde!08:32
AlanBellmorning peeps08:38
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brobostigongood morning everyone.09:50
Hippychickgood morning brobostigon, i hope you are having a good morning?10:05
brobostigonHippychick: other than physical failings, and issues, i am not bad. and you?10:06
Hippychicknot so good, mine is more mental then physical though...10:08
Hippychickwork are being gits again... :(10:08
brobostigon:(10:08
* Hippychick wonders what the rules afre for being stressed10:09
brobostigoninteresting question.10:10
Hippychickyeah, i know im stressed but in terms of work im not sure what i can do about it10:11
Hippychickthe people here are not exacly easy to talk to10:12
brobostigonHippychick: the thing that halped me, when stressed, is to compensate with the right release of that stress, and reduce stress.10:13
directhexHippychick, he wears a cape and fights crime. it's excellent stress relief10:18
Hippychickdirecthex, who? or what?10:19
directhexbrobostigon! that's his "right release of that stress". beating up criminals10:20
brobostigon:)10:20
davmor2MooDoo: you online yet?10:26
davmor2czajkowski: good first day?10:26
davmor2morning all10:28
* AlanBell wonders if MooDoo and Laney are about11:14
AlanBellhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1283/detail/ <- launch party in London11:15
AlanBelltrying to arrange an exclusive booking on the pub with Canonical underwriting a minimum spend :)11:15
AlanBellI visited the place yesterday, it is quite good11:18
AlanBelllots of nice beer on tap11:18
brobostigon:)11:19
Hippychickalanbell, is the party on the 13th october?11:19
AlanBellit is11:20
Hippychickyeah just saw that11:20
* Hippychick needs a phone with a bigger screen11:20
Hippychickmight have a look at comming11:21
AlanBellyay11:21
Hippychickim in ireland the day before hopefully work wont make me stay longer11:22
AlanBellwhere in Ireland?11:25
Hippychickno idea, whereever the plane lands and the customer takes me too :P11:26
gordoh wow shipping to norway is espensive11:42
gordexpensive11:42
Laneyhello AlanBell11:44
davmor2AlanBell: MooDoo is possibly still basking in the whole parenthood thing for the time being11:45
AlanBellyeah, I expect he is11:46
oimonbasking?11:47
AlanBelljust wanted to set a date for the Nottingham happy hour/release party11:47
AlanBelldavmor2: he will be experiencing the joy of meconium11:48
directhexit's late 2011, and minecraft still doesn't have a fix for an old lwjgl linux bug11:48
ali1234popey: here is a bad error dialog for you: http://imagebin.org/17257112:08
Davieyali1234: doesn't look too bad to me.12:09
DavieyI expected it to have goats being abused or something, that would be really bad.12:10
oimonquite peaceful12:10
ali1234it won't go away though12:10
Davieymake it part of the layout.12:10
oimonfree some space :)12:10
Davieylearn to enjoy your new dekstop friend.12:10
ali1234i have done, it still won't go away12:10
DavieyDon't force it to go away, just let it be.  It's not harming anyone, right?12:11
oimonis your desktop normally green or the purple chunder?12:11
ali1234normally green12:12
oimonxkill ?12:13
ali1234i tried that12:13
ali1234it killed unity12:13
ali1234and the pink thing stayed12:13
CaMasonhi guys. Trying to get a vodafone/Huawei 4511 device working. It's quite new, and I've got usb_modeswitch switching properly - but it's not appearing in network manager. Any thoughts?12:15
CaMasonaha, did it manually with modprobe and now it works!12:26
popeyhehe ali1234 :D12:29
popeyTheOpenSourcerer: WHERE'S MY TOUCHPAD DAMNIT!12:30
popeyor, afternoon.12:30
TheOpenSourcererlol hulo popey12:30
TheOpenSourcererI have not heard back from Jez (my mate).12:31
popeyBah!12:31
TheOpenSourcererI have no idea when the internal firesale will take place either.12:32
DavieyIs Jezzer still waiting behind the lorry for it to fall off?12:32
TheOpenSourcererHe works for HP12:32
oimondoes he not want one himself?12:36
diploafternoon all, Anyone know with maverick if i can get mail indicator to show a different colour to IM ?13:10
oimontrying to work out whether to bother with g+13:17
popeyI'm not sure G+ could cope with your grumpyness.13:21
oimonit's been struggling so far13:22
davmor2oimon: just what G+ needs more angriness ranting at the world ;)13:23
oimoni would only have it on receive mode in the same way i use twitter13:23
oimonG+ did show me a sweet picture of a fox enjoying a slide though13:24
oimoni've been on g+ since the beginning but discovered i only check it 1x per week13:24
davmor2man have you noticed how quiet it is without czajkowski around,  we should of got her a job sooner :D13:24
popey:D13:25
popeydavmor2: make the most of it, it's only a 4 month contract13:26
davmor2popey: you had to ruin a perfectly good day didn't you ;)13:26
czajkowskidavmor2: oi13:45
czajkowskibrat13:45
davmor2czajkowski: hello sweetie I thought it would put a smile on your face ;)13:46
czajkowskii shall kick your arse13:51
czajkowskidon't forget it13:51
* diplo asks everyone to calm down and relax13:52
diplo:)13:52
diploCall it chill our thursday13:52
diploout*13:52
kirrusChill our works better13:52
* AlanBell wonders if davmor2 and derriere are coming to London for the release?13:55
AlanBellhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1283/detail/13:55
davmor2AlanBell: I might do depending on how work is we might be releasing on the same day then I'm stuck here in wolvo till 20:0013:57
AlanBellsurely you can work from Millbank!13:57
popeyAlanBell: do you see the columns on that page misaligned?13:59
AlanBellpopey: I reported that bug, yes14:00
PendulumAlanBell: you should poke mrevell as well for the party :)14:00
AlanBellI should indeed14:00
popeyyes14:00
popeyget him to bring some LP t-shirts14:00
mrevellHmph? Whassat?14:00
popeyoh, bugger, he's here14:00
mrevellpopey, LP t-shirts! Only a handful left.14:00
mrevellAll female sizes.14:00
AlanBellpub!14:00
popeyperfect14:00
oimonnot surprised...what woman wnats to waear LAUNCHPAD written on their boobs?14:01
Pendulumoimon: I'd totally wear that14:01
AlanBellmrevell: details of next thursday pub on the fridge door14:01
oimondon't be surprised if a guy takes you up on the offer14:01
Pendulumoimon: I already own the ThinkGeek 'Huge Tracts of Land' t-shirt14:01
MyrttiLaunchpad t-shirts?14:02
PendulumI get almost no comments on it from guys14:02
Myrttifemale sizes = ????14:02
Pendulumlots of laughter from women14:02
MyrttiAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA want some14:02
oimonhttp://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=39814:02
czajkowskiI want a LP T-Shirt!!!!!14:03
* Myrtti bites her nails14:03
popeymost comfy t-shirt I own is my BZR one14:03
* Myrtti msg's the fairy godfather in UK14:03
* popey gets a pm14:03
* czajkowski watches mrevell screen light up14:03
popeyoh, not that one14:03
andrewebdevcan someone tell me how to get around this: I'm trying to install a deb package in a VM. the vm runs Ubuntu Natty. I have both python 2.7 and 2.6 installed. when Installing the deb however, I get: "Dependency is not satisfiable: python (<2.7)14:03
* Pendulum wonders if ordering one would cost more for shipping than the shirt itself14:04
Myrttioh man, my sister is aiming at me with a staple gun14:06
* Myrtti goes back to painting14:06
mrevelldavmor2, I need an hour of your time. I'm doing some research in preparation for the "custom bug columns" feature.14:07
mrevelldavmor2, You up for meeting up?14:08
davmor2mrevell: really where and when?14:08
* mrevell wonders what happened to davmor114:08
mrevelldavmor2, Light House? Monday 11am?14:08
davmor2mrevell: sounds doable might need to ensure they have wifi this time as I might be needed for work?14:10
davmor2should be a .14:10
davmor2at the end14:10
mrevelldavmor2, Yeah, wifi would be handy. I'll email you.14:10
davmor2no probs14:10
* czajkowski kicks davmor2 and goes back 14:16
davmor2see how the noise level increased when czajkowski came back?14:16
gordthere does seem to be a direct correlation between czajkowski and violence, but as we all know, correlation is not causation14:18
Laneyhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b014641w/Afternoon_Play_Floating/14:19
* czajkowski goes back to being quiet14:20
davmor2gord: haha like it14:22
ali1234does anyone know about DECT?15:06
ali1234i have a base station and three handsets and all that works fine15:06
ali1234i just added two new handsets but they don't ring when the others do15:06
oimonargh i never knew how much i relied on linux.com and associated websites15:06
ali1234i can still answer with them though15:07
ali1234and make calls15:07
ali1234they just don't receive the ringing signal15:07
ali1234they are not muted either15:07
ali1234the caller ID does not come through15:07
AlanBellhmm, openswan-modules-dkms just doesn't work15:32
AlanBellbug #62679015:44
lubotu3Launchpad bug 626790 in Kunquat "add a horizontal divider for instrument controls" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62679015:44
AlanBelldebian bug #62679015:44
lubotu3Debian bug 626790 in openswan-modules-dkms "openswan-modules-dkms: Kernel modules doesn't compile" [Grave,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/62679015:44
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Myrttimy thumb hurts :-(17:10
Myrttipeeling silicone glue was really stuck :-/17:11
AlanBellif anyone is going to the Happy Hour next thursday and wants some (non-free) cake beforehand it would be great to have some people at this http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/2011/09/13/the-first-agiletea-meeting/17:15
AlanBellI can't get there in time17:15
MartijnVdSagile-tea?17:16
AlanBelland agile cake17:16
MartijnVdSI prefer my cake to stay still17:16
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kvarleyWhere did gtkdialog go from the repos?17:33
danfishAlanBell: I might try and get to that cake-based event b4 the Happy Hour - looks interesting17:51
shauno this is really starting to get annoying :/17:59
MartijnVdSshauno: what is?17:59
shaunosame thing still.  keeps dropping everything, and I don't see any pattern17:59
AlanBelldanfish: great!18:02
shaunough, update-grub doesn't make backups?18:14
shaunoI really can't wrap my head around the junk that creates the menu.lst anymore18:25
AzelphurI've made a bold leap into futureness, decided to scrap having title bars, close, maximize and maximize buttons on my windows altogether.18:40
AzelphurI use decorationless windows now :)18:40
MartijnVdSi.e. you started a QT app in Oneiric?18:42
Azelphurhahaha18:42
MartijnVdS(that kills unity-decorator...)18:42
AzelphurMartijnVdS: no, I disabled the window decorations plugin in compiz.18:43
Azelphur(deliberately)18:43
Azelphurand I don't plan on re-enabling it either, at least not unless I can have something to make window borders look a little nicer, while not wasting loads of space18:43
shaunoso the only way I can find to change options in update-grub, is to edit /usr/bin/update-grub itself.  everything else seems to be completely ignored18:49
czajkowskiAloha18:53
MartijnVdS\o czajkowski18:55
* davmor2 runs up and flicks water at czajkowski and runs off18:57
* AlanBell thinks davmor2 really should come down to London for the release19:00
davmor2AlanBell: You want to see if I'm like this with her in the room right czajkowski will confirm I am :D19:01
* AlanBell will bring popcorn19:02
davmor2AlanBell: I just don't push as hard when she's there I can see the unamused look on her face :D19:02
phil_mhi all I'm I'm a newbie to ubuntu, i only stumbled across it the other week, I'm currently doing some oracle studies in java programming and developing (formally SCJP +  SCJD) and came across your podcasts which i listen to on the way to work. just wanted to say keep up the good work guys... :-))19:03
AlanBellhi phil_m19:03
AlanBellbug 379001 is a bit of a pain19:11
lubotu3Launchpad bug 379001 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] multiple dual-head issues" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37900119:11
AlanBellor even bug 73900119:12
lubotu3Launchpad bug 739001 in openswan (Ubuntu) "openswan kernel module failed to build: fatal error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73900119:12
AlanBellyeah, that one.19:12
suprengrNice one, NASA:  The existence of a world with a double sunset, as portrayed in the film Star Wars more than 30 years ago, is now scientific fact.19:19
czajkowskidavmor2: oi19:21
danfishhmm - I need a really small 4 port hub/switch - any suggestions?19:32
danfishnvm - found one in my "man drawer" - plan to gut it and put it in a wall plate :)19:38
danfishmust clean out the man drawer some time19:38
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Guest26907evening19:43
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mgdmHi daubers19:44
AlanBellwhy are games tied to windows?19:44
AlanBellapart from directx what do they use from the operating system?19:44
dwatkinsThe development environment.19:47
dwatkinsThere's also Steam, but OS X demonstrates things are portable.19:47
AlanBellsteam is a kind of app store for windows right?19:48
dwatkinsAlanBell: it's more a games store, but yes - games are installed through it and the licensing is also handled within Steam.19:48
AlanBellby licensing you mean payments?19:49
danfishAlanBell: you can run windows games on any OS...but it requires a drop of Bill Gates' blood and a unicorn tear ;)19:49
dwatkinsAlanBell: not just that, Steam handles the keys as well, sometimes internally (it authenticates with Valve's website so you can download a game on a new PC without the need to enter the key) or it'll just tell you the key to paste into the game.19:50
AlanBellso the games are watermarked with drm stuff19:50
dwatkinsAlanBell: I believe so, yes.19:51
czajkowskiso this is who I work for now - watch the video http://www.codegent.com/blog/2011/9/september_news19:52
danfishczajkowski: congrats - looks good :)19:54
czajkowskidanfish: thanks19:54
czajkowskiam knackered19:54
dwatkinscongratulations, czajkowski :)19:55
czajkowskidwatkins: thanks19:55
dwatkinsDo you get to join the curry club, czajkowski?19:55
czajkowskidwatkins: I'm sure I can do19:57
dwatkinshooray19:58
danfishczajkowski: you going to the happy hour next week?20:02
czajkowskiyup I surely am20:04
czajkowskiyou ?20:04
danfishoh yes - most definitely :)20:05
czajkowskiYAY!20:09
czajkowskiwe shall meet for once!20:09
czajkowskiif you back out I will come and hunt you and pick on you like I do MooDoo and davmor2 are we clear20:09
danfishczajkowski: haha - I will not dare to no-show on you!20:10
czajkowskiGood20:11
danfishI have a rather good ubuntu circle of friends spray template - I may bring it along with a can of spray paint and offer to 'mod' laptops :D20:14
davmor2czajkowski: You leave my good name out of this woman ;)20:14
czajkowskiwhat good name are you talking about20:16
gordshe has a point20:16
davmor2no my name is good I might not be :P20:18
czajkowskigord: hey you were taking my name in vain earlier on20:19
czajkowskino jammy dodgers for you next time I see you20:19
gorddon't lump me in with that lot, i'm nice :P20:19
czajkowskiI had such a  odd bug20:19
czajkowskiunity 3d vanished20:20
czajkowskiUnity 2d worked20:20
czajkowskitooked my fedora loving mac bf to reinstall it for me while I cooked dinner20:20
czajkowski*took20:20
gordstrange20:21
danfishI'm running xubuntu at the mo coz unity stuffs up the arduino IDE20:21
czajkowskigord: Annoying one min there reboot gone20:22
danfish#j #xununtu20:22
danfishoops20:23
davmor2czajkowski: no it would be me taking you name in vein well it's normally me, I mean it sounds like something I'd do at least, but I don't remember calling you a vein if that helps20:23
czajkowskishrup ya pup davmor220:23
gordit does sound like something davmor2 would do20:24
czajkowskiindeed20:24
czajkowskisee20:24
czajkowskihe's trouble20:25
czajkowskiI'm the innocent one20:25
* AlanBell suspects czajkowski is probably innocent of something20:27
czajkowskiI am I tell you20:27
davmor2AlanBell: You know how these riots broke out in London and nobody knows why it's strange how these violent instances have been happening since czajkowski moved in isn't it, think about it you know it makes sense ;)20:28
czajkowskithink about the lack of violent attacks in here since I'm gone and you not picking on me daily20:29
czajkowskisee tis you20:29
czajkowskiall you20:29
davmor2czajkowski: So on a serious note how you liking your new job?20:29
czajkowskiloving it20:30
czajkowskigreat fun, lots of new stuff20:30
czajkowskiand really really really busy20:30
davmor2czajkowski: good glad to hear it20:30
czajkowskion 2 projects today writing up and researching specs20:30
czajkowskiworking on plans for dev folks for realistic deadlines that include testing20:30
danfishthought for the day : if those rioters channeled their violence into rugby, England may have a chance at the rugby world cup #wrong channel20:31
czajkowskidanfish: you know what amazes me here20:31
czajkowskiolympics not for another year20:31
czajkowskirugby WC on now20:31
czajkowskiand no advertising anywhere for it20:31
czajkowskinothing to support your team20:31
czajkowskiit's amazing20:31
czajkowskiyou don't see that back home and not everyone follows it20:31
czajkowskibut once it's the national team adverts galore20:32
danfishczajkowski: I know - it's nuts :(20:32
danfishfootball is dominant and it's a PITA20:32
davmor2czajkowski: Yeah but in the uk it's second best to the one with the round ball :)20:32
j0nrok, so I installed lubuntu on my old Dell D600, but video is awful! Wondering if I have the best video driver or not...?20:33
AlanBelland all the games are over before breakfast20:33
czajkowskiyeah but it's your national team for feck sake20:33
czajkowskisupport them20:33
AlanBellj0nr: you mean the static desktop or moving video?20:33
danfishon the good side czajkowski - you've got to stay around in the UK until 2015 - RWC in england \o/20:34
czajkowskidanfish: and knwoing ye then20:34
davmor2czajkowski: I show the rugby team the same respect I do my local and national football team there's an app for that ;)20:34
czajkowskiye stil won't advertise!20:34
czajkowskidavmor2: so help me I am gonna kick yer ass up and down the field the next time we meet20:35
gordczajkowski, not coming to orlando this time?20:35
* AlanBell hugs davmor2 and czajkowski 20:35
czajkowskigord: nope didnt apply20:35
gordboo20:35
czajkowskigord: so bring your tea bags wit you20:35
* AlanBell isn't going to the house of the mouse either20:35
czajkowskigord: top of the packing list before you cry!20:36
j0nrAlanBell: um, everything. Screensavers, yet to try video, but a slow performing screensaver doesn't bode well20:36
davmor2gord: on the plus side I am :D with Mrs M too20:36
* danfish is hungry - Mrs danfish has gone to son number 1 PTA meeting and still isn't back :(20:36
davmor2danfish: you know where the kitchen is right? In there is this mystical stuff called food20:37
davmor2http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot&play=true20:38
czajkowskidanfish: tea and toast20:38
danfishdavmor2: heh - I'm the cook in the house - beef and green pepper madras going cold.....20:39
czajkowskidanfish: so eat it so20:40
danfishczajkowski: too right - post-it note to wife "Dinner is in the Oven"20:42
czajkowskiexactly20:42
czajkowskireheat20:42
czajkowskimicrowave20:42
danfishoops, scrap that, just in20:42
j0nrAlanBell: youtube video like 1fps20:43
AlanBellj0nr: well that kicks your media centre plans in the teeth a bit!20:43
j0nrAlanBell: but do you think maybe i could be using better video drivers?20:44
AlanBelldoubt it, but what is the spec of that thing again?20:44
j0nr1.8GHz pentium, 512Mb ram, ATI Mobility Firegl 9000 (RV250)20:46
TheOpenSourcererWeird - spent ages trying to find out why my Thunderbird extension wasn;t working on the new TB7. Turns out that one of my preferences TB thought should be a string - it is a boolean and ALWAYS HAS BEEN!20:55
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bigcalm_lappy486Evening all21:09
smittixevenin'21:16
MooDoohey all21:21
AlanBellMooDoo \o/21:24
MooDoo:)21:24
AlanBellhow is it going so far?21:25
AlanBellpast the meconium and on to propper poo now I guess21:25
MooDoonot to bad at the moment, sleeping two hours at a time throughout the night21:25
MooDooyeah just21:25
AlanBellin another 18 years or so she will move out21:26
MooDoopmsl, gee thanks :D)21:26
MooDooright better go it be a feeding time :D21:31
AlanBellnom nom nom21:31
AlanBellissyl0: coming to the release party?21:35
nucc1anyone know if its possible to use courier with authmysql and md5 passwords?21:53
nucc1i want to get rid of that CRYPT thing, and I've succeeded with postfix, but courier won't budge21:53
ali1234what is wrong with this? : ../src/envy 4000 2>&1 >> ../log/envy.log &21:54
ali1234maybe the problem is i don't have bash...21:55
ali1234../log/envy.log is created but it is just an empty file21:55
mgdmthere's a bit in bash where the 2>&1 needs to be the wrong side of something in order to work, it might be pipes though21:57
ali12342>> envy.log works22:00
ali1234i'll just assume it never writes anything interesting on stdout22:00

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