[01:01] <ali1234> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46_6aGXY6HU nice
[06:57]  * czajkowski pokes MooDoo before she leaves for work 
[08:14] <diplo> Morning all
[08:15] <bigcalm> Morning peeps :)
[08:15] <diplo> seems like it's going to be quiet here today with no talking since czajkowski at 8am
[08:16] <gord> you could propose a topic of conversation ;) that might help
[08:21] <diplo> Sleep?
[08:22] <diplo> I'm knackered, not dropping off till 3am this morning then work at 8 doesn't bode well
[08:22] <diplo> :)
[08:23] <JGJones> Greetings
[08:32] <JamesTait> Bonjour, tout le monde!
[08:38] <AlanBell> morning peeps
[09:50] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:05] <Hippychick> good morning brobostigon, i hope you are having a good morning?
[10:06] <brobostigon> Hippychick: other than physical failings, and issues, i am not bad. and you?
[10:08] <Hippychick> not so good, mine is more mental then physical though...
[10:08] <Hippychick> work are being gits again... :(
[10:08] <brobostigon> :(
[10:09]  * Hippychick wonders what the rules afre for being stressed
[10:10] <brobostigon> interesting question.
[10:11] <Hippychick> yeah, i know im stressed but in terms of work im not sure what i can do about it
[10:12] <Hippychick> the people here are not exacly easy to talk to
[10:13] <brobostigon> Hippychick: the thing that halped me, when stressed, is to compensate with the right release of that stress, and reduce stress.
[10:18] <directhex> Hippychick, he wears a cape and fights crime. it's excellent stress relief
[10:19] <Hippychick> directhex, who? or what?
[10:20] <directhex> brobostigon! that's his "right release of that stress". beating up criminals
[10:20] <brobostigon> :)
[10:26] <davmor2> MooDoo: you online yet?
[10:26] <davmor2> czajkowski: good first day?
[10:28] <davmor2> morning all
[11:14]  * AlanBell wonders if MooDoo and Laney are about
[11:15] <AlanBell> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1283/detail/ <- launch party in London
[11:15] <AlanBell> trying to arrange an exclusive booking on the pub with Canonical underwriting a minimum spend :)
[11:18] <AlanBell> I visited the place yesterday, it is quite good
[11:18] <AlanBell> lots of nice beer on tap
[11:19] <brobostigon> :)
[11:19] <Hippychick> alanbell, is the party on the 13th october?
[11:20] <AlanBell> it is
[11:20] <Hippychick> yeah just saw that
[11:20]  * Hippychick needs a phone with a bigger screen
[11:21] <Hippychick> might have a look at comming
[11:21] <AlanBell> yay
[11:22] <Hippychick> im in ireland the day before hopefully work wont make me stay longer
[11:25] <AlanBell> where in Ireland?
[11:26] <Hippychick> no idea, whereever the plane lands and the customer takes me too :P
[11:42] <gord> oh wow shipping to norway is espensive
[11:42] <gord> expensive
[11:44] <Laney> hello AlanBell
[11:45] <davmor2> AlanBell: MooDoo is possibly still basking in the whole parenthood thing for the time being
[11:46] <AlanBell> yeah, I expect he is
[11:47] <oimon> basking?
[11:47] <AlanBell> just wanted to set a date for the Nottingham happy hour/release party
[11:48] <AlanBell> davmor2: he will be experiencing the joy of meconium
[11:48] <directhex> it's late 2011, and minecraft still doesn't have a fix for an old lwjgl linux bug
[12:08] <ali1234> popey: here is a bad error dialog for you: http://imagebin.org/172571
[12:09] <Daviey> ali1234: doesn't look too bad to me.
[12:10] <Daviey> I expected it to have goats being abused or something, that would be really bad.
[12:10] <oimon> quite peaceful
[12:10] <ali1234> it won't go away though
[12:10] <Daviey> make it part of the layout.
[12:10] <oimon> free some space :)
[12:10] <Daviey> learn to enjoy your new dekstop friend.
[12:10] <ali1234> i have done, it still won't go away
[12:11] <Daviey> Don't force it to go away, just let it be.  It's not harming anyone, right?
[12:11] <oimon> is your desktop normally green or the purple chunder?
[12:12] <ali1234> normally green
[12:13] <oimon> xkill ?
[12:13] <ali1234> i tried that
[12:13] <ali1234> it killed unity
[12:13] <ali1234> and the pink thing stayed
[12:15] <CaMason> hi guys. Trying to get a vodafone/Huawei 4511 device working. It's quite new, and I've got usb_modeswitch switching properly - but it's not appearing in network manager. Any thoughts?
[12:26] <CaMason> aha, did it manually with modprobe and now it works!
[12:29] <popey> hehe ali1234 :D
[12:30] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: WHERE'S MY TOUCHPAD DAMNIT!
[12:30] <popey> or, afternoon.
[12:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol hulo popey
[12:31] <TheOpenSourcerer> I have not heard back from Jez (my mate).
[12:31] <popey> Bah!
[12:32] <TheOpenSourcerer> I have no idea when the internal firesale will take place either.
[12:32] <Daviey> Is Jezzer still waiting behind the lorry for it to fall off?
[12:32] <TheOpenSourcerer> He works for HP
[12:36] <oimon> does he not want one himself?
[13:10] <diplo> afternoon all, Anyone know with maverick if i can get mail indicator to show a different colour to IM ?
[13:17] <oimon> trying to work out whether to bother with g+
[13:21] <popey> I'm not sure G+ could cope with your grumpyness.
[13:22] <oimon> it's been struggling so far
[13:23] <davmor2> oimon: just what G+ needs more angriness ranting at the world ;)
[13:23] <oimon> i would only have it on receive mode in the same way i use twitter
[13:24] <oimon> G+ did show me a sweet picture of a fox enjoying a slide though
[13:24] <oimon> i've been on g+ since the beginning but discovered i only check it 1x per week
[13:24] <davmor2> man have you noticed how quiet it is without czajkowski around,  we should of got her a job sooner :D
[13:25] <popey> :D
[13:26] <popey> davmor2: make the most of it, it's only a 4 month contract
[13:26] <davmor2> popey: you had to ruin a perfectly good day didn't you ;)
[13:45] <czajkowski> davmor2: oi
[13:45] <czajkowski> brat
[13:46] <davmor2> czajkowski: hello sweetie I thought it would put a smile on your face ;)
[13:51] <czajkowski> i shall kick your arse
[13:51] <czajkowski> don't forget it
[13:52]  * diplo asks everyone to calm down and relax
[13:52] <diplo> :)
[13:52] <diplo> Call it chill our thursday
[13:52] <diplo> out*
[13:52] <kirrus> Chill our works better
[13:55]  * AlanBell wonders if davmor2 and derriere are coming to London for the release?
[13:55] <AlanBell> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1283/detail/
[13:57] <davmor2> AlanBell: I might do depending on how work is we might be releasing on the same day then I'm stuck here in wolvo till 20:00
[13:57] <AlanBell> surely you can work from Millbank!
[13:59] <popey> AlanBell: do you see the columns on that page misaligned?
[14:00] <AlanBell> popey: I reported that bug, yes
[14:00] <Pendulum> AlanBell: you should poke mrevell as well for the party :)
[14:00] <AlanBell> I should indeed
[14:00] <popey> yes
[14:00] <popey> get him to bring some LP t-shirts
[14:00] <mrevell> Hmph? Whassat?
[14:00] <popey> oh, bugger, he's here
[14:00] <mrevell> popey, LP t-shirts! Only a handful left.
[14:00] <mrevell> All female sizes.
[14:00] <AlanBell> pub!
[14:00] <popey> perfect
[14:01] <oimon> not surprised...what woman wnats to waear LAUNCHPAD written on their boobs?
[14:01] <Pendulum> oimon: I'd totally wear that
[14:01] <AlanBell> mrevell: details of next thursday pub on the fridge door
[14:01] <oimon> don't be surprised if a guy takes you up on the offer
[14:01] <Pendulum> oimon: I already own the ThinkGeek 'Huge Tracts of Land' t-shirt
[14:02] <Myrtti> Launchpad t-shirts?
[14:02] <Pendulum> I get almost no comments on it from guys
[14:02] <Myrtti> female sizes = ????
[14:02] <Pendulum> lots of laughter from women
[14:02] <Myrtti> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA want some
[14:02] <oimon> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=398
[14:03] <czajkowski> I want a LP T-Shirt!!!!!
[14:03]  * Myrtti bites her nails
[14:03] <popey> most comfy t-shirt I own is my BZR one
[14:03]  * Myrtti msg's the fairy godfather in UK
[14:03]  * popey gets a pm
[14:03]  * czajkowski watches mrevell screen light up
[14:03] <popey> oh, not that one
[14:03] <andrewebdev> can someone tell me how to get around this: I'm trying to install a deb package in a VM. the vm runs Ubuntu Natty. I have both python 2.7 and 2.6 installed. when Installing the deb however, I get: "Dependency is not satisfiable: python (<2.7)
[14:04]  * Pendulum wonders if ordering one would cost more for shipping than the shirt itself
[14:06] <Myrtti> oh man, my sister is aiming at me with a staple gun
[14:06]  * Myrtti goes back to painting
[14:07] <mrevell> davmor2, I need an hour of your time. I'm doing some research in preparation for the "custom bug columns" feature.
[14:08] <mrevell> davmor2, You up for meeting up?
[14:08] <davmor2> mrevell: really where and when?
[14:08]  * mrevell wonders what happened to davmor1
[14:08] <mrevell> davmor2, Light House? Monday 11am?
[14:10] <davmor2> mrevell: sounds doable might need to ensure they have wifi this time as I might be needed for work?
[14:10] <davmor2> should be a .
[14:10] <davmor2> at the end
[14:10] <mrevell> davmor2, Yeah, wifi would be handy. I'll email you.
[14:10] <davmor2> no probs
[14:16]  * czajkowski kicks davmor2 and goes back 
[14:16] <davmor2> see how the noise level increased when czajkowski came back?
[14:18] <gord> there does seem to be a direct correlation between czajkowski and violence, but as we all know, correlation is not causation
[14:19] <Laney> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b014641w/Afternoon_Play_Floating/
[14:20]  * czajkowski goes back to being quiet
[14:22] <davmor2> gord: haha like it
[15:06] <ali1234> does anyone know about DECT?
[15:06] <ali1234> i have a base station and three handsets and all that works fine
[15:06] <ali1234> i just added two new handsets but they don't ring when the others do
[15:06] <oimon> argh i never knew how much i relied on linux.com and associated websites
[15:07] <ali1234> i can still answer with them though
[15:07] <ali1234> and make calls
[15:07] <ali1234> they just don't receive the ringing signal
[15:07] <ali1234> they are not muted either
[15:07] <ali1234> the caller ID does not come through
[15:32] <AlanBell> hmm, openswan-modules-dkms just doesn't work
[15:44] <AlanBell> bug #626790
[15:44] <AlanBell> debian bug #626790
[17:10] <Myrtti> my thumb hurts :-(
[17:11] <Myrtti> peeling silicone glue was really stuck :-/
[17:15] <AlanBell> if anyone is going to the Happy Hour next thursday and wants some (non-free) cake beforehand it would be great to have some people at this http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/2011/09/13/the-first-agiletea-meeting/
[17:15] <AlanBell> I can't get there in time
[17:16] <MartijnVdS> agile-tea?
[17:16] <AlanBell> and agile cake
[17:16] <MartijnVdS> I prefer my cake to stay still
[17:33] <kvarley> Where did gtkdialog go from the repos?
[17:51] <danfish> AlanBell: I might try and get to that cake-based event b4 the Happy Hour - looks interesting
[17:59] <shauno>  this is really starting to get annoying :/
[17:59] <MartijnVdS> shauno: what is?
[17:59] <shauno> same thing still.  keeps dropping everything, and I don't see any pattern
[18:02] <AlanBell> danfish: great!
[18:14] <shauno> ugh, update-grub doesn't make backups?
[18:25] <shauno> I really can't wrap my head around the junk that creates the menu.lst anymore
[18:40] <Azelphur> I've made a bold leap into futureness, decided to scrap having title bars, close, maximize and maximize buttons on my windows altogether.
[18:40] <Azelphur> I use decorationless windows now :)
[18:42] <MartijnVdS> i.e. you started a QT app in Oneiric?
[18:42] <Azelphur> hahaha
[18:42] <MartijnVdS> (that kills unity-decorator...)
[18:43] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: no, I disabled the window decorations plugin in compiz.
[18:43] <Azelphur> (deliberately)
[18:43] <Azelphur> and I don't plan on re-enabling it either, at least not unless I can have something to make window borders look a little nicer, while not wasting loads of space
[18:49] <shauno> so the only way I can find to change options in update-grub, is to edit /usr/bin/update-grub itself.  everything else seems to be completely ignored
[18:53] <czajkowski> Aloha
[18:55] <MartijnVdS> \o czajkowski
[18:57]  * davmor2 runs up and flicks water at czajkowski  and runs off
[19:00]  * AlanBell thinks davmor2 really should come down to London for the release
[19:01] <davmor2> AlanBell: You want to see if I'm like this with her in the room right czajkowski will confirm I am :D
[19:02]  * AlanBell will bring popcorn
[19:02] <davmor2> AlanBell: I just don't push as hard when she's there I can see the unamused look on her face :D
[19:03] <phil_m> hi all I'm I'm a newbie to ubuntu, i only stumbled across it the other week, I'm currently doing some oracle studies in java programming and developing (formally SCJP +  SCJD) and came across your podcasts which i listen to on the way to work. just wanted to say keep up the good work guys... :-))
[19:03] <AlanBell> hi phil_m
[19:11] <AlanBell> bug 379001 is a bit of a pain
[19:12] <AlanBell> or even bug 739001
[19:12] <AlanBell> yeah, that one.
[19:19] <suprengr> Nice one, NASA:  The existence of a world with a double sunset, as portrayed in the film Star Wars more than 30 years ago, is now scientific fact.
[19:21] <czajkowski> davmor2: oi
[19:32] <danfish> hmm - I need a really small 4 port hub/switch - any suggestions?
[19:38] <danfish> nvm - found one in my "man drawer" - plan to gut it and put it in a wall plate :)
[19:38] <danfish> must clean out the man drawer some time
[19:43] <Guest26907> evening
[19:44] <mgdm> Hi daubers
[19:44] <AlanBell> why are games tied to windows?
[19:44] <AlanBell> apart from directx what do they use from the operating system?
[19:47] <dwatkins> The development environment.
[19:47] <dwatkins> There's also Steam, but OS X demonstrates things are portable.
[19:48] <AlanBell> steam is a kind of app store for windows right?
[19:48] <dwatkins> AlanBell: it's more a games store, but yes - games are installed through it and the licensing is also handled within Steam.
[19:49] <AlanBell> by licensing you mean payments?
[19:49] <danfish> AlanBell: you can run windows games on any OS...but it requires a drop of Bill Gates' blood and a unicorn tear ;)
[19:50] <dwatkins> AlanBell: not just that, Steam handles the keys as well, sometimes internally (it authenticates with Valve's website so you can download a game on a new PC without the need to enter the key) or it'll just tell you the key to paste into the game.
[19:50] <AlanBell> so the games are watermarked with drm stuff
[19:51] <dwatkins> AlanBell: I believe so, yes.
[19:52] <czajkowski> so this is who I work for now - watch the video http://www.codegent.com/blog/2011/9/september_news
[19:54] <danfish> czajkowski: congrats - looks good :)
[19:54] <czajkowski> danfish: thanks
[19:54] <czajkowski> am knackered
[19:55] <dwatkins> congratulations, czajkowski :)
[19:55] <czajkowski> dwatkins: thanks
[19:55] <dwatkins> Do you get to join the curry club, czajkowski?
[19:57] <czajkowski> dwatkins: I'm sure I can do
[19:58] <dwatkins> hooray
[20:02] <danfish> czajkowski: you going to the happy hour next week?
[20:04] <czajkowski> yup I surely am
[20:04] <czajkowski> you ?
[20:05] <danfish> oh yes - most definitely :)
[20:09] <czajkowski> YAY!
[20:09] <czajkowski> we shall meet for once!
[20:09] <czajkowski> if you back out I will come and hunt you and pick on you like I do MooDoo and davmor2 are we clear
[20:10] <danfish> czajkowski: haha - I will not dare to no-show on you!
[20:11] <czajkowski> Good
[20:14] <danfish> I have a rather good ubuntu circle of friends spray template - I may bring it along with a can of spray paint and offer to 'mod' laptops :D
[20:14] <davmor2> czajkowski: You leave my good name out of this woman ;)
[20:16] <czajkowski> what good name are you talking about
[20:16] <gord> she has a point
[20:18] <davmor2> no my name is good I might not be :P
[20:19] <czajkowski> gord: hey you were taking my name in vain earlier on
[20:19] <czajkowski> no jammy dodgers for you next time I see you
[20:19] <gord> don't lump me in with that lot, i'm nice :P
[20:19] <czajkowski> I had such a  odd bug
[20:20] <czajkowski> unity 3d vanished
[20:20] <czajkowski> Unity 2d worked
[20:20] <czajkowski> tooked my fedora loving mac bf to reinstall it for me while I cooked dinner
[20:20] <czajkowski> *took
[20:21] <gord> strange
[20:21] <danfish> I'm running xubuntu at the mo coz unity stuffs up the arduino IDE
[20:22] <czajkowski> gord: Annoying one min there reboot gone
[20:22] <danfish> #j #xununtu
[20:23] <danfish> oops
[20:23] <davmor2> czajkowski: no it would be me taking you name in vein well it's normally me, I mean it sounds like something I'd do at least, but I don't remember calling you a vein if that helps
[20:23] <czajkowski> shrup ya pup davmor2
[20:24] <gord> it does sound like something davmor2 would do
[20:24] <czajkowski> indeed
[20:24] <czajkowski> see
[20:25] <czajkowski> he's trouble
[20:25] <czajkowski> I'm the innocent one
[20:27]  * AlanBell suspects czajkowski is probably innocent of something
[20:27] <czajkowski> I am I tell you
[20:28] <davmor2> AlanBell: You know how these riots broke out in London and nobody knows why it's strange how these violent instances have been happening since czajkowski moved in isn't it, think about it you know it makes sense ;)
[20:29] <czajkowski> think about the lack of violent attacks in here since I'm gone and you not picking on me daily
[20:29] <czajkowski> see tis you
[20:29] <czajkowski> all you
[20:29] <davmor2> czajkowski: So on a serious note how you liking your new job?
[20:30] <czajkowski> loving it
[20:30] <czajkowski> great fun, lots of new stuff
[20:30] <czajkowski> and really really really busy
[20:30] <davmor2> czajkowski: good glad to hear it
[20:30] <czajkowski> on 2 projects today writing up and researching specs
[20:30] <czajkowski> working on plans for dev folks for realistic deadlines that include testing
[20:31] <danfish> thought for the day : if those rioters channeled their violence into rugby, England may have a chance at the rugby world cup #wrong channel
[20:31] <czajkowski> danfish: you know what amazes me here
[20:31] <czajkowski> olympics not for another year
[20:31] <czajkowski> rugby WC on now
[20:31] <czajkowski> and no advertising anywhere for it
[20:31] <czajkowski> nothing to support your team
[20:31] <czajkowski> it's amazing
[20:31] <czajkowski> you don't see that back home and not everyone follows it
[20:32] <czajkowski> but once it's the national team adverts galore
[20:32] <danfish> czajkowski: I know - it's nuts :(
[20:32] <danfish> football is dominant and it's a PITA
[20:32] <davmor2> czajkowski: Yeah but in the uk it's second best to the one with the round ball :)
[20:33] <j0nr> ok, so I installed lubuntu on my old Dell D600, but video is awful! Wondering if I have the best video driver or not...?
[20:33] <AlanBell> and all the games are over before breakfast
[20:33] <czajkowski> yeah but it's your national team for feck sake
[20:33] <czajkowski> support them
[20:33] <AlanBell> j0nr: you mean the static desktop or moving video?
[20:34] <danfish> on the good side czajkowski - you've got to stay around in the UK until 2015 - RWC in england \o/
[20:34] <czajkowski> danfish: and knwoing ye then
[20:34] <davmor2> czajkowski: I show the rugby team the same respect I do my local and national football team there's an app for that ;)
[20:34] <czajkowski> ye stil won't advertise!
[20:35] <czajkowski> davmor2: so help me I am gonna kick yer ass up and down the field the next time we meet
[20:35] <gord> czajkowski, not coming to orlando this time?
[20:35]  * AlanBell hugs davmor2 and czajkowski 
[20:35] <czajkowski> gord: nope didnt apply
[20:35] <gord> boo
[20:35] <czajkowski> gord: so bring your tea bags wit you
[20:35]  * AlanBell isn't going to the house of the mouse either
[20:36] <czajkowski> gord: top of the packing list before you cry!
[20:36] <j0nr> AlanBell: um, everything. Screensavers, yet to try video, but a slow performing screensaver doesn't bode well
[20:36] <davmor2> gord: on the plus side I am :D with Mrs M too
[20:36]  * danfish is hungry - Mrs danfish has gone to son number 1 PTA meeting and still isn't back :(
[20:37] <davmor2> danfish: you know where the kitchen is right? In there is this mystical stuff called food
[20:38] <davmor2> http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot&play=true
[20:38] <czajkowski> danfish: tea and toast
[20:39] <danfish> davmor2: heh - I'm the cook in the house - beef and green pepper madras going cold.....
[20:40] <czajkowski> danfish: so eat it so
[20:42] <danfish> czajkowski: too right - post-it note to wife "Dinner is in the Oven"
[20:42] <czajkowski> exactly
[20:42] <czajkowski> reheat
[20:42] <czajkowski> microwave
[20:42] <danfish> oops, scrap that, just in
[20:43] <j0nr> AlanBell: youtube video like 1fps
[20:43] <AlanBell> j0nr: well that kicks your media centre plans in the teeth a bit!
[20:44] <j0nr> AlanBell: but do you think maybe i could be using better video drivers?
[20:44] <AlanBell> doubt it, but what is the spec of that thing again?
[20:46] <j0nr> 1.8GHz pentium, 512Mb ram, ATI Mobility Firegl 9000 (RV250)
[20:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> Weird - spent ages trying to find out why my Thunderbird extension wasn;t working on the new TB7. Turns out that one of my preferences TB thought should be a string - it is a boolean and ALWAYS HAS BEEN!
[21:09] <bigcalm_lappy486> Evening all
[21:16] <smittix> evenin'
[21:21] <MooDoo> hey all
[21:24] <AlanBell> MooDoo \o/
[21:24] <MooDoo> :)
[21:25] <AlanBell> how is it going so far?
[21:25] <AlanBell> past the meconium and on to propper poo now I guess
[21:25] <MooDoo> not to bad at the moment, sleeping two hours at a time throughout the night
[21:25] <MooDoo> yeah just
[21:26] <AlanBell> in another 18 years or so she will move out
[21:26] <MooDoo> pmsl, gee thanks :D)
[21:31] <MooDoo> right better go it be a feeding time :D
[21:31] <AlanBell> nom nom nom
[21:35] <AlanBell> issyl0: coming to the release party?
[21:53] <nucc1> anyone know if its possible to use courier with authmysql and md5 passwords?
[21:53] <nucc1> i want to get rid of that CRYPT thing, and I've succeeded with postfix, but courier won't budge
[21:54] <ali1234> what is wrong with this? : ../src/envy 4000 2>&1 >> ../log/envy.log &
[21:55] <ali1234> maybe the problem is i don't have bash...
[21:55] <ali1234> ../log/envy.log is created but it is just an empty file
[21:57] <mgdm> there's a bit in bash where the 2>&1 needs to be the wrong side of something in order to work, it might be pipes though
[22:00] <ali1234> 2>> envy.log works
[22:00] <ali1234> i'll just assume it never writes anything interesting on stdout