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linuxman410_cyberanger bodhilinux is the only one that sees broadcom 43 chipset00:52
linuxman410_cyberanger you here00:53
linuxman410_orangeninja have you tried bodhilinux01:01
orangeninjasorry I missed it Linuxman410,  but no I have not.01:10
Unit193He's still online01:11
orangeninjawhere?01:12
Unit193#lubuntu :P01:13
Unit193orangeninja: Not exactly the right place01:36
orangeninjashiii I didnt know01:37
Unit193Xubuntu now too?01:37
orangeninjaI figured I see if it was a channel....01:37
orangeninjaI am running that on a destop right now01:38
Unit193Support channel01:39
orangeninjasorry I am not IRC stalking you... I promise01:42
linuxman410cyberanger when you get this message i want to resign from ubuntu team01:48
wrsthey linuxman41001:48
wrstlinuxman410: why??01:48
linuxman410wrst just do not believe in ubuntu no more no branch of it01:49
wrstlinuxman410: hang around you don't have to01:49
wrstmany guys in here use something else01:50
wrstgreat thing about linux many options!01:50
linuxman410wrst i do use other linux i am not going to quit linux01:51
wrstno need to quit here then01:51
Unit193Exactly, Bodhi is even based on Ubuntu so it's close enough ;)01:52
linuxman410Unit193 did not know i was breaking guidlines in lubuntu sorry01:53
orangeninjathi is more like a TLUG channel anyway.01:53
orangeninjayeah me too01:53
wrstyep and as far as broadcom support actually I've found ubuntu to be one of the best out there01:53
Juzzyt = TN?01:53
orangeninjayeah01:53
orangeninjalol01:53
Juzzythought 90% were in knoxville01:53
Unit193linuxman410: No problem! I was just informing you before someone else did01:54
orangeninjaok KLUG01:54
linuxman410wrst i only have 512 ram that is my other problem even xubuntu needs more than that01:54
Juzzyheh01:54
Juzzyno excuse having < 2 gb of ram these days, seriously01:54
orangeninjaI am Nashville01:54
orangeninjalinuxman410: you on an old lappy?01:55
orangeninjaif I am ever off on an NLUG night I am going01:55
Juzzy8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill Ripjaws Series DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory $40 + Free Shipping01:55
JuzzyBuy Now ►01:55
JuzzyNewegg has 8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill Ripjaws Series DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory (F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL) for $39.99 with free shipping.01:55
linuxman410orangeninja yeah a old dell inspiron 820001:55
Unit193CPU~Single core Celeron (Mendocino) (-UP-) clocked at 498.429 Mhz Kernel~2.6.38-11-generic i686 Up~10 days Mem~152.6/495.1MB HDD~20.2GB(59.3% used) Procs~135 Client~Irssi 0.8.15 inxi~1.7.701:55
wrstwhoa Juzzy01:55
Unit1932HDDS01:56
Juzzyah orangeninja: ya I'm 1 hr S of nashville01:56
* wrst needs 8GB of ram in his laptop!01:56
Juzzyya heh this is desktop ram01:56
Juzzymy laptop has 8gb tho ;/01:56
wrstoh Juzzy i thought that was mighty cheap for laptop memory :)01:56
orangeninjayeah I fugured, I got an old IBM T42 with 512 works perfect but needs batt and linux01:56
wrstand Juzzy that DESKTOP word should have been a giveaway for me!01:56
orangeninjaJuzzy: what kind I want one01:57
Juzzylol01:57
JuzzyI have a Dell E6510, pimped out01:57
Juzzyit's rockin01:57
Juzzycompany dropped $2500 on it, heh01:57
wrstlinuxman410: i do think that you can't expect a distro that is aiming for widespread adoption to work well on older/lower spec'd machines01:58
linuxman410orangeninja i buy old hardware cause batteries are cheaper01:58
Juzzyorangeninja: going to infosec tomorrow?01:58
orangeninjafreakin laptop supercomputer01:58
Juzzyyea, its got an i701:58
orangeninjanope, I am working01:58
Juzzyah01:58
linuxman410se my laptop only cost 60 bucks01:59
orangeninjalinuxman410: when I get time I will set up some linux on that t42 might upgrade to a gig though if it'll let me02:00
linuxman410has anyone heard anything from exodus_ms it has been years since i seen him in here02:01
orangeninjaJuzzy: you in Columbia or around there?02:02
wrstlinuxman410: saw him pop in a few weeks ago just for a moment02:08
Unit1938-30-1102:11
Unit193Seems to have only been there ~3 minutes02:12
linuxman410wrst i did just leave the lubuntu team02:16
cyberangerlinuxman410: sorry, prioritizing my link a good bit, moving alot of data this week (building a mirror)02:18
linuxman410cyberanger what for02:19
cyberangerwell, my own projects atm, but long term I'm hoping to setup a public mirror02:19
linuxman410cyberanger what kind of projects02:20
cyberangermain one is a router project, very early stages02:21
Unit193cyberanger: :D02:21
cyberangeraimed more at moderate users, emergency situations02:21
linuxman410cyberanger i need a custom os that will un on the broadcom 43 wireless02:22
Juzzyorangeninja: sorta, Lewisburg02:22
JuzzyE of columbia02:22
JuzzySE-E02:22
cyberangercompared to others that are easy, but limited, or advanced use but a pain for an emergency situations, when you need to setup and move on02:22
linuxman410cyberanger do you know how i can do that02:22
cyberangerlinuxman410: what are the other requirements02:23
linuxman410pentium 4 1.6 512 ram02:23
cyberangerJuzzy: we had alot in the east, then west had the majority, now it's middle again it seems02:23
cyberangerlinuxman410: lxde, openbox, gnome, xfce, wicd or network-manager?02:24
Juzzynah, I'm middle TN02:24
JuzzyI'm like EXACTLY between nashville and huntsville02:24
linuxman410cyberanger that will work with broadcom 4302:24
cyberangerJuzzy: I was referring to your earlier 90% knoxville comment02:24
Juzzyoh sry02:24
Juzzygotcha now02:25
Juzzynoone going to infosec tomorrow? :(02:25
cyberangerlinuxman410: I follow that, you need a linux kernel with broadcom b4302:25
cyberangerbut what else, what UI02:25
linuxman410cyberanger openbox02:25
cyberangerJuzzy: infosec? (only heard of two confrences coming up, phreaknic & skydogcon)02:26
linuxman410cyberanger would the ubuntu alternative install have broadcom02:26
cyberangerlinuxman410: what network manager, to go with your card (config files, wpasupplacant, or something a little more powerful, like wicd or network-manager)02:26
Juzzyinfosec is tomorrow02:27
linuxman410cyberanger wicd02:27
cyberangerJuzzy: where? I hadn't heard at all02:27
Juzzycyberanger: unfortunatly skydogcon and phreaknic are on the same days02:27
Juzzynashville conv center02:27
cyberangerJuzzy: intenionally (but not the same hotels)02:27
Juzzywell, semi02:28
Juzzyskydog tried to move his02:28
Juzzybut got flack for it02:28
cyberangerI've heard a little about it, and I'm sure there is pieces of the story that are lacking02:28
Juzzyhe also tried to get passes that'd work for both events but phreaknic didnt want to02:28
linuxman410cyberanger can i do it with ubuntu alternative02:29
cyberangerskydog used to run phreaknic two years, apperently nashville2600 didn't like the way he ran things, he said he would create a con for two years, was gonna be over the summer to not conflict02:29
cyberangerhad to do this to save face, then both cons on the same weekend, and on an NFL night (very odd, seems delibrate)02:30
cyberangerlinuxman410: hang on, looking into it02:30
linuxman410cyberanger ok thanks02:30
Juzzyya I don't care for grownup drama02:31
Juzzyall I know is skydog and mudflap both run the local hackerspace02:31
Juzzywhich is pretty damn cool02:31
cyberangerJuzzy: yeah, which explains the hackerspaces seeming to favor skydogcon02:32
JuzzyI'm starting something similiar in lewisburg as an arm of my school02:32
cyberangerdidn't know about infosec tommorow, no choice but miss it I'm afraid02:32
Juzzywell like, he's having a lock picking event02:32
Juzzywhich is more down my alley02:32
linuxman410cyberanger sorry it is ip220002:32
Juzzyi love lockpicking02:32
Juzzypeep this02:33
cyberangerlinuxman410: driver is ip220002:33
cyberangerJuzzy: I'm not sure what I'm gonna do, I think phreaknic has proven itself (even though I gott keep in mind, skydog is the reason for two years of that)02:33
linuxman410cyberanger sorry that is my wireless on one ui have broadcom on the other one ineed to know how to customize it02:34
Juzzyhttp://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/182809_1274488199173_1739005916_479264_6102052_n.jpg02:34
cyberangerand my thing was the wifi foxhunt, which neither are doing)02:34
Juzzysingle pin picked - 7-pin security bank bag, < 1 minute02:34
linuxman410cyberanger holler when u find something02:41
cyberangerlinuxman410: I'm confused, I'm checking the alternate installer for what wifi driver02:41
linuxman410ip220002:42
Unit1933oz cookie02:45
cyberangerlinuxman410: the ip2200, not the b4302:46
linuxman410cyberanger both02:46
cyberangerwell, ip2200 is intel, so that has high odds of inclusion02:50
cyberangerlinuxman410: after running a cli install with alternate disk, it'll finish & have you reboot02:54
linuxman410cyberanger then what02:55
cyberangerthen you'll need internet connection (not with the wifi card, but a wire that's supported) then run02:55
cyberangersudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wicd-curses b43-fwcutter02:56
cyberangerand that'll install what's needed for both wifi cards (note, you'll have what's needed for wifi, but extremely little on the system, it's purely a cli system, no gui installed yet)02:56
cyberangerfor the ip2200 machine, you can leave out b43-fwcutter if you'd like02:57
linuxman410cyberanger what about gui02:58
cyberangerwell, you said custom, your choice, I've shown you a screenshot or 5 of my setup02:58
cyberangerbut be warned, it's involved (I can do it in less than 5 minutes now, for a reinstall, but first time, truely customizing it all, an hour or more)02:59
linuxman410cyberanger but what do itype to install gui02:59
cyberangerwell, which gui, gnome, kde, lxde, openbox03:00
cyberangerhow much outside the UI do you want03:00
linuxman410cyberanger openbox03:00
cyberangerwallpaper switcher, taskbar?03:01
cyberangerlogin manager?03:01
linuxman410cyberanger yes03:01
linuxman410cyberanger yes to all you ask03:02
cyberangeropenbox obconf obmenu nitrogen tint2 slim xcompmgr xinit03:03
linuxman410cyberanger is that what i type03:04
cyberangersudo apt-get install wicd-curses b43-fwcutter openbox obmenu obconf nitrogen tint2 slim xcompmgr xinit03:06
linuxman410cyberanger is that what i type03:06
cyberangermerely to install the packages yes03:06
wrstgood morning everyone14:02
Xpistoscyberanger: hey. do you have a little time to maybe ts a Openswan issue?16:27
Xpistoswrst:16:28
wrsthowdy Xpistos16:29
Unit193wrst: Good afternoon17:36
wrstafternoon Unit193 how goeth things?18:00
Unit193wrst: Had to readup a stupid IRC war, but going for a visit to friends house in a few (with pop, cookies, and food)18:01
wrstUnit193: there you go18:12
wrstmuch better than an irc war :)18:12
Unit193Heck yeah, be back ~12, party without me ;)18:14
wrstenjoy!18:21
Unit193Thanks, adios18:23
cyberangerXpistos: you know me, I'll try to squeeze it in20:38
Xpistosnah20:38
cyberangernah, no need it's solved? or..?20:40
cyberangerXpistos: ^20:44
Xpistossort a20:44
cyberangerXpistos: well I don't mind, know it's been a week long ordeal for you20:47
pace_t_zuluhey guys21:21
wrsthey pace_t_zulu21:21
pace_t_zuluthinking bout moving my cell number to google voice21:21
pace_t_zuluany thoughts?21:21
* pace_t_zulu looks in cyberanger's direction21:21
XpistosI am thinking the same21:22
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: go for it21:23
cyberangerjust be aware that might complicate the cell phone while the number is ported & a new cell number is assigned, it's rare, easy to migiate, with a prepaid for a backup21:24
cyberangerand there maybe no hiccups anyway, just advising you in case there are21:24
cyberangerI've started to move off google voice to asterisk myself, not quite all the way yet though21:25
cyberangerjust something fells so right about asterisk, pleases the inner phreaker/hacker in me ;-)21:25
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: ^^21:26
cyberangerXpistos: ^^21:26
cyberangerbeen using it since it was called grandcentral, it's nice21:26
cyberangerhttp://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=2011091221:26
pace_t_zulucyberanger: thanks21:29
pace_t_zulucyberanger: you prefer asterisk to google voice?21:29
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: if you got the time means & budget, like to tinker with literally every setting, yes21:39
cyberangerbut atm I'm using them in tandem21:40
cyberanger(cause I don't have the budget I'd like for it full time)21:41
XpistosSo when I win the lottery. Who do I hire to right me a comic book management system?21:45
Xpistospace_t_zulu: did you make it to the festival this weekend?21:46
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i do not have time21:46
pace_t_zulucyberanger: would you recommend google voice21:46
pace_t_zuluXpistos: no ... i've been slammed lately21:46
pace_t_zuluXpistos: started a new job recently21:46
Xpistosouch. Festival site got over 30k hits in a month21:46
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: yep, I would21:46
Xpistospace_t_zulu: still in vandy?21:47
pace_t_zuluXpistos: no21:47
pace_t_zuluXpistos: i'll pm you a link21:47
Xpistoscool21:47
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: however I do have to add, that asterisk is worth fiddling with, if only due to the fact it's a common office PBX21:47
XpistosNICE!21:48
cyberangerbut that's nothing wrong with google voice (asterisk I have mutiple line in's compared to google's one, and international too, since google voice is only available in the us, us number, kinda like a UK & Sweedish number I've had for years)21:49
pace_t_zulucyberanger: the main reason is that i'm too busy to answer my cell21:53
pace_t_zuluand too many people have my cell number and think they can get text message tech support21:53
pace_t_zulucyberanger: so i am going to move that number to google voice and get a new number and keep it private21:53
cyberangerthat case I can see, for both systems then21:54
pace_t_zulucyberanger: but google voice is likely to be less hassel to set up for basic nieed21:54
cyberangergoogle voice tell your cell not to send text messages, or use calling groups to limit when work calls & texts, and everyone else21:54
cyberanger(might want to make two work groups if your on call ever, have that second one be those who should contact you when on call)21:55
cyberangerthere's definately tricks to deal with that21:56
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i didn't understand that first one21:59
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: in google voice you have settings for each phone, only mobile phones have a setting for text messaging, you can set that off if you never use text messaging, just check in google voice or in your email for them instead (I've done this for cost savings)22:01
cyberangeralso, you can tie contacts into groups, have the default policy be call nobody, your cell, your home phone, or a mixture, then calling groups for everything else22:01
cyberangerand you can set times when groups can call, or when a number is forwarded to (if you work a 9-5, no point calling home, so tell it not to forward at that time)22:02
pace_t_zuluso i can still text through google voice?22:04
cyberangeryep, both ways22:05
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: do you have an android phone22:05
pace_t_zulucyberanger: iPhone22:06
pace_t_zulucyberanger: that perhaps doesn't come as much of a surprise though ;)22:06
cyberangeryeah, wasn't thinking22:07
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: make sure you keep to the app, or you risk leaking your number22:08
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google-voice/id318698524?mt=822:08
pace_t_zululeaking my google voice number?22:09
pace_t_zulucyberanger: or my new private number?22:09
cyberangerno, your non-voice number22:09
cyberangerif you text directly from the iphone22:09
cyberangerthere's different things with different phones, android (and looking at this, presume same designs apply iphone) is highly intregrated22:10
cyberangerbut there are ways to gof22:11
cyberangerbut there are ways to goof, have it leak22:11
cyberangerit's easy, hands on, describing it all though, could be easier22:12
cyberangerbe back on tonight, meeting I gotta get to though22:13
cyberangerbbl22:13

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